#769 – Tommy GMcGee | The Road To 500k

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

You were on with J yesterday, uh, bam. We’re live. Was that yesterday?

Caleb Beaver (00:04):


Tommy GMcGee (00:05):


Sevan Matossian (00:05):

She’s crying.

Caleb Beaver (00:07):

It’s the circle, dude.

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Hey, dude, you, you wanna hear something? I realized it’s crazy. You’re, you probably already realized this. It’s just weird. It took me so long to realize this. Maybe we already talked about this on the show too, me and you. But if you’re, if you’re a girl, if you’re a girl, you can, uh, Hey, what’s up Tommy?

Tommy GMcGee (00:29):

Hey, how you guys doing?

Sevan Matossian (00:30):

Oh, that was my fault, Caleb. My fault. Uh, if you’re a girl, Caleb and Tommy, you can, like, let’s say you get a job at McDonald’s mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, um, then like, if you, if your manager’s a dude and you, if you have sex with him once, like your whole job is changed. So whether it’s like you, you’re, um,

Caleb Beaver (00:52):

Doesn’t, you don’t even have to have sex with him. You just have to have, show interest in your boss.

Sevan Matossian (00:56):

Well, if you have sex with him, you just get crazy leverage. So let’s say, let’s say Kamala Harris, like, and, and it goes all the way to the top. Like, let’s say Kamala, like, uh, fuck Joe Biden, or, or, or the lady who just got hired at McDonald’s. Fuck the manager there. Once you do that, everything changes. Like, I’m, now, I’m just realizing that my whole life I’ve, there’s been all these people having sex in the workplace, and then I realize, oh shit, soon as these women do this, and I’m sure it could go the other way too with men. I don’t know if it can go the other way. Well, just, men just don’t get this opportunity just because of the nature of the way men and women are set up. But, um, maybe a stud like Tommy G could pull it off. But when, when you, when you fuck the c e o or, or someone who’s high ranking, your, your job just changes. Everything changes. You can’t get fired. All you have to do is fuck him once.

Tommy GMcGee (01:46):

I know a male sales rep that Yes. Has sex with his manager, Uhhuh <affirmative>. And then she just got demoted to a regular salesperson. So sex changed.

Sevan Matossian (01:53):

Oh, they, they found out?

Tommy GMcGee (01:55):


Sevan Matossian (01:56):

Wow. Well, I, well, hey, if that would’ve been a girl who had sex with the guy, the guy would’ve been fired, I bet

Tommy GMcGee (02:05):


Sevan Matossian (02:06):

It just gives a woman incredible leverage. Like, if you’re a guy, do not bang people lower on the, uh, on the totem pole than you don’t bang anyone at work. I mean, unless, unless you like having that being held over your neck. What? Say that again.

Tommy GMcGee (02:20):

Or just have sex with people you trust and love.

Sevan Matossian (02:23):

Well, that is, that’s, that’s a great good point. That’s the problem with dudes. We’ll convince ourselves that like, uh, you’ll be 60 pounds overweight and, uh, the girl will be 30 years younger than you, and for some reason you’re still stupid and think that the girl actually cares about you.

Tommy GMcGee (02:39):

<laugh>, is this a therapy session for you?

Sevan Matossian (02:41):

Yeah, I guess <laugh>. I was, I, well, you know what? You know what? Connected all the dots to me. I, I watched all your, uh, I watched so many of your shows last night. I cannot believe how prolific you are. Congratulations. And your YouTube’s exploding.

Tommy GMcGee (02:55):

Thank you. It’s currently under, I’m in YouTube jail for a week. They’ve banned me from posting for a week because a clip, a video I wasn’t even gonna post. I was just seeing what I can get away with on the, on the platform. And then when I see their feedback, I delete the clips. I re-uploaded a video. I had no intention of posting, got flagged for a strike. It was me sipping lean, the Houston rap rapper drug, the cough syrup scissor, as they say in the streets.

Sevan Matossian (03:19):

Yeah, I watched that piece. I watched that piece.

Tommy GMcGee (03:22):

Yeah. So anyways, it’s, they, they flagged it from another, I did a, a best of 22 video, and that clip made it into there. Yet it’s sitting out on the internet and another video. Just fine. All that to say, it’s a little scary when YouTube can just take away your career. If I get two more strikes, they permanently delete my channel, which is,

Sevan Matossian (03:40):

Hey, I, I got a copyright strike and I got to go to like, copyright school and get the strike taken away.

Tommy GMcGee (03:47):

Yeah. And of course, there’s such a behemoth that, you know, if I, I’m a, I won’t even make a dent. I won’t even make a decimal place in their bottom line. So if I disappear, there’s 500 other people that are gonna take my spot. And, um, man, I just, it was interesting. It was a good le loading lesson that, uh, old Tommy is in the big dog and he just has to follow the rules. And, you know, March straight.

Sevan Matossian (04:12):

Yeah. They, they made, they, uh, they bent, what’s his name over one of those Milk boys? They just fucking, just scooped his shit up in Turkey. He will

Tommy GMcGee (04:18):

Do it. This other guy, Nico. And

Sevan Matossian (04:22):

What happened to Nico? How many subscribers did he have?

Tommy GMcGee (04:26):

A couple. I mean, he was doing six figures a month off YouTube that he had. Oh no. Oh no. So, I don’t know, I don’t know the depths of his story, because I think he said some, he was, he was playing the red pill guy where Basical, like Andrew, he was following the Andrew Tate playbook where you say, I’m purposely inflammatory things that you probably don’t believe, but you know, it’s gonna get clicks. And I think that caught up to ’em. But the idea that you can just take somebody and then he tried, even if that kid were to try to make a new platform, they’d ban that too,

Sevan Matossian (04:53):

Which is, Hey, could, can you say, um, could you say on YouTube, uh, for those of you who don’t know the website, the, the YouTube account is Tommy G I had him on a couple months ago. Uh, and we’re really lucky to have him again. Uh, he came on, and I don’t usually keep in contact with people who come on the show, just so you guys know. I mean, I, I just can’t, there’s too many fucking people. But Tommy and I stayed in touch. I, I like we, I think we actually like each other, so, um, so, so I been excited to have him back on. Tommy, can you say, um, uh, I don’t think women should have the right to vote. Can you say that on YouTube or what you get? Do you get in trouble for that?

Tommy GMcGee (05:33):

You know, I don’t know if you get ba like a strike from YouTube, but I certainly would imagine my audience. I mean, that would be a pretty shitty thing to say. So I think, I think my audience would be like, what the fuck, dude? And stop watching me. I think it would be punishment by my, my audience not wanting to,

Sevan Matossian (05:48):

Well, well, as it should be you. It’s capitalism, right? You should attract, like, like, I, I don’t, I’m not into sex toys, so I never go into a sex toy shop, but I don’t think they should all be shut down. I just don’t vote on my, I just don’t go there with my, I just don’t go there and spend money.

Tommy GMcGee (06:03):

Yeah. And I’m on the other side of the coin where I definitely believe in the capitalism where the, the crowd goes where it wants. But, um, sex toys have become a, a good friend in the bedroom. The, the

Sevan Matossian (06:13):


Tommy GMcGee (06:13):

Is a, uh,

Sevan Matossian (06:15):

I learned something, I learned something on your show the other day. Um, one of the shows you visit an insane asylum, a a closed insane asylum, a massive one. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, where they did lobotomies and all shit. And they, and one, and one of the things you share in that is that they, the vibrator was invented, um, to, uh, stimulate, uh, crazy women to help them, uh, regulate their hysteria.

Tommy GMcGee (06:39):

Yeah. That is, think about this dude. For how much of history have men just been such higher status than women that they can just, you know, basically they’re just birthing machines and they don’t care if their wife, they’re married to this woman, they don’t care if she ever comes in her entire life. And it got so bad that doctors literally had to invent a vibrator to give her them an orgasm and give ’em some relief. Like imagine if you had to go your whole life without coming, how crazy you would be.

Sevan Matossian (07:06):

I’m just trying to make it an afternoon. I’m just ma trying to make it past lap nap time. Yeah.


<laugh>. Well, hey, we’re the opposite. Well, I, I mean, I, I know this is a sweeping generalization, but we’re opposites. A as men and women like that, dudes are like, Hey, you need to jack off less. And women, it’s like, Hey, can I just get one? Can I just get one orgasm? And dudes are like, you know, I’m trying to cut it back. I’m trying to cut back on my porn. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I was also tripping on this, Tommy. Um, I’m 50 and the first time I ever, the first time I ever saw sex mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it was me having sex.

Tommy GMcGee (07:39):


Sevan Matossian (07:40):

That’s unique. But now there’s

Tommy GMcGee (07:41):

Unique. Then you’re very unique.

Sevan Matossian (07:43):

Well, now there’s all, like, at 11 years old, a boy’s already seen, like, now people have seen, uh, because of their phones, they’ve seen 600 people have sex before, the first time they ever had sex. And when I say I saw it, I mean, like, I was just like looking down, you know what I mean? Like, I, I hear shit. I can’t believe that I’m lucky enough, I’m 18 and I’m, I’m finally having sex. I couldn’t even fucking believe it. I was thinking about, I thought the girl, it must have been like Mother Teresa to have sex with me. Go ahead.

Tommy GMcGee (08:08):

I was thinking a lot about that too, which is the age that most kids are exposed to porn and sex. I mean, I was, I still remember, so I was a triplet and then me and my triplet brother, Ben Triplet family, the family computer, and he’s like, what happens if I type in naked ladies? And he did. Yeah. And I think it was like Britney Spears boobs or something like that popped up. But we, we couldn’t get enough of it. We were like, holy shit, this is a whole new world out there. Yeah. And we were hooked. And, and then all it takes is like, if you’re in elementary school or gr or middle school, you have one of the friends that has an older brother that’s seen more than you have. So it’s like, how am I gonna teach my own kids about sex and how am I gonna let them surf the internet? Because there’s unbelievable things out there. Like you can, I remember when I was a kid also two girls, one cup was circulating. There was a video where a

Sevan Matossian (08:54):

Guy, what was that? That was someone pooped in a cup and ate it.

Tommy GMcGee (08:57):

Two people pooped in a cup and started rubbing it on. I didn’t watch the whole video, so I can’t give you the whole description. But pooped.

Sevan Matossian (09:02):

Where was that? That made it on YouTube?

Tommy GMcGee (09:05):

No, that sound Oh, oh, some backyard website that okay. But the kids

Sevan Matossian (09:10):

Remember that. But I never saw it either.

Tommy GMcGee (09:11):

Yeah. I guess all this to say the world that if you’re raising kids now, the online world that you have to help ’em navigate and stay safe from, cuz some of those things are seared into your brain. You see that once and you’re never forgetting some of that stuff. Like there’s, there’s brutal, horrible things on the internet. And there’s also like, like crazy

Sevan Matossian (09:29):

Dude, if you show an 11 year old boy a penis in an in, uh, in a girl’s mouth or in a guy, fuck man in a guy’s mouth, that’s all he is gonna want to, he’s gonna become singularly focused on trying to get that done until he is dead.

Tommy GMcGee (09:43):

It’s an in, it’s a instantaneous

Sevan Matossian (09:45):

Endorse that have ruined me. Yeah. Ruined me to sing. That’s

Tommy GMcGee (09:49):

A crack crack

Sevan Matossian (09:49):

Cocaine. Yes. Crazy. Anyway, uh, the, the, the takeaway from all the videos I watched of yours, first of all, tho those guys lied to those guys in the, uh, la um, in the Las Vegas tunnels. They lied to you. They’re like, you’re like, how many people are on drugs? And he’s like, oh, like 10%. Oh know, I mean, 20%. Ah, yeah. Maybe, maybe like 40 per Okay. 50%. I’m like, you lie motherfuckers, every if you do, if you wanna know what happens if you do drugs, go, go, uh, watch, uh, a bunch of, uh, Tommy’s videos. And then if you wanna know what it’s like to work hard and not give a shit about like, anything except working hard, go watch his videos because Tommy’s in all these videos and he’s working his ass off. And then he, he followed a guy around who’s worth a hundred million dollars, not not worth a hundred million. Like, like this guy made a hundred million in cash

Tommy GMcGee (10:44):

Perms. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (10:45):

Yep. And this dude still like, buys shitty homes and goes in there with a shovel and cleans them out. But all the people who are fucked up in his videos, can we pull up his YouTube? They’re all have one thing in common. They’re all addicted to drugs. It’s fascinating.

Tommy GMcGee (11:02):

Yeah. The pole that it’s amazing. Cause I’m not, I don’t have an addictive personality. I don’t think so. Like, to think that there’s a substance that would want me to, like, that would take me away from my family or doing the things I love, or being able to live a proper life, like own a house and enjoy myself. Like, it’s amazing that pole drugs can have on somebody. And that’s another thing I think about, like if I ran Skid Row or if I ran the Las Vegas tunnels, if I was a mayor or governor, like, what do you do? And I think a lot of it, I don’t know if a government is gonna, like, they can do some things, but it’s a personal journey in a lot of ways too.

Sevan Matossian (11:40):

If, if, if, if my kids became addicted to drugs, the the way, what I would like to think that I would do is I would kidnap them and take them out into the middle of Kenya and, and, and, and, and, and camp with them like out in the middle of Africa for like three months. That’s what I would, I would like to think that I would do. Like I was looking at those drug addicts, like those, so basically there’s a, there’s a video in there, um, where he hangs out with pimps and prostitutes. It’s really, really good. It’s crazy good journalism, man. And it’s, and it’s really raw, meaning it’s not, um, you don’t feel like you’re being manipulated. This one. Yeah. So this guy’s a pimp. This guy’s not even addicted to drugs. Right. Just as chick is.

Tommy GMcGee (12:25):

Yeah. I think really interesting thing I’m learning is the line of good and evil. Like a initial, I almost pussied out of this idea, dude. I was halfway back to Milwaukee thinking this is, we’re not doing this at night. This is too scary. This is too dumb. We’re in the worst neighborhood of Chicago. I’m going home. And then you actually meet these guys and he’s not a stone cold pimp. Like he’s really, he’s a poor man. And the way they make money as a couple, as she goes out and she gives condom blow jobs for 150 bucks a pop. They

Sevan Matossian (12:52):

Are condom blow jobs. I was wondering that.

Tommy GMcGee (12:54):

Yeah. Okay. That’s what they say. And, and, and, and they were pretty, uh, upfront about things. And I think it’s a lot of just like economic opportunity. It’s a lot of just being stuck in a, a kind of a drug addicted trap. His, his woman’s addicted to drugs and like, he wasn’t like, I thought he was gonna be a evil person to speak to. He’s a guy that if I was sitting on a porch with him sharing a beer, I wouldn’t, he’s not, I’m not, you know, he wouldn’t be a bad guy.

Sevan Matossian (13:21):

Right? Not at all. I didn’t get any, I didn’t get bad guy vibes from anyone.

Tommy GMcGee (13:27):

Yeah. Even the guy that’s sold fentanyl that I talked to is like, I could hang out with him. Which is weird to think, like, initially I would’ve gone going into that. I’m like, this guy’s such a piece of shit. He’s a trash human being. I don’t know, man. Good And evil is a tough question to answer sometimes.

Sevan Matossian (13:44):

So all those peop basically, I mean, he, he nailed it. And, and I, I’ve, I do have an addictive personality, so I completely understand. Um, you, you meet a girl, you hang out with her, you get, you move her for, you meet her in New Orleans. She’s 20 years old. She’s got some problems at home. Maybe she’s been molested, uh, or no, she has been molested. You meet her, or maybe she’s 17, you tell her, Hey, let’s go to Chicago on the way to Chicago. You get her addicted to meth than when you get there, you tell her if she wants more meth, she has to fuck some, suck some guys off. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then, and I couldn’t believe that’s just like the classic, there’s probably 10,000 girls who have that story in the United States. That’s just simple story. They have the code tore. You just get someone who’s been molested, addicted to drugs. And those two things come together and you gotta, you got a

Tommy GMcGee (14:32):

Hoe and a highly manipulative man that, that’s stunts the relationship that he holds all the power he has the access to the bank accounts, access to the money. He’s the protector, but then also the abuser, which makes it a weird dynamic. And, uh, Milwaukee’s actually a hub. We’re in between Minneapolis and Chicago. So, um, that’s a story I’m gonna start chasing down in Milwaukee is sex traffic. Like the thing that sex trafficking happens probably 10 minutes, well, five minutes, 10 minutes away from my house at a high level. It’s just, it kind of blows my mind that that stuff goes on.

Sevan Matossian (15:02):

And what happened to those guys, those guys, something bad happened to them. For them to think that that’s away.

Tommy GMcGee (15:09):


Sevan Matossian (15:09):

Do you know what I mean? Like Yeah.

Tommy GMcGee (15:11):

How are they raised to think that that’s a proper way to be with a woman?

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

Yeah. How do they manage their conscience? Let’s say even you could do that. How would you manage your conscience? And, and another thing is, is you’re, when cops arrest prostitutes, they’re basically arresting people who don’t, like, not one prostitute wants to be doing her job.

Tommy GMcGee (15:35):

Yeah. That was another thing. That was

Sevan Matossian (15:37):

Not one.

Tommy GMcGee (15:38):

Yeah. None of ’em are like, this is a great career path. I’m really, the 401k here is pretty good. You know? Did you

Sevan Matossian (15:44):

Almost cry in that one interview, Tommy?

Tommy GMcGee (15:46):

Yeah. With baby. She

Sevan Matossian (15:47):

Was just, that was intense.

Tommy GMcGee (15:49):

It was just, oh, like, and knowing that, again, like another, like a pretty cool, like innocent soul, you know, like someone that you’re like, wow. Like you wanna just wanna hug her and like pick her up and be like, okay, I’m gonna help you. But then I gar like, that’s what she knows. So she, it’s what she knows right now. So to make the whole transition to do something else with her life would be enormous for,

Sevan Matossian (16:13):

I wanna see if I can show, um,

Tommy GMcGee (16:16):

Uh, and for reference for, uh, people that haven’t watched the video baby is the, the probably the main character, the main prostitute of the video. And, and the people in the comments just fell in love with her. Like everyone was just rooting for her and wishing the best for her. And, um, it just, it’s tough to see a woman that has like, she’s charming, she’s fun, she’s personable, she’s cute

Sevan Matossian (16:41):

And yeah. Great. And, and, and what’s crazy is even a great body, like, not even just like a schlep.

Tommy GMcGee (16:46):

Yeah. And here she is. Fast forward a little bit. Yeah. There she is. Yeah. She wanted her face blurred out. So we did that for her. And, uh, a transition period. Yes,

Sevan Matossian (16:55):

Of course.

Tommy GMcGee (16:58):

So it’s just heartbreaking seeing people like this cuz everybody, and then to think

Sevan Matossian (17:02):

That she, so she, here, she’s just walked away. Sorry, I keep interrupting you. No, go here. She’s just walked away from blowing a guy in that alley and then, and then you interview her.

Tommy GMcGee (17:12):

Yeah. That to me was the wildest part. Like, to be able to zoom in on her customer and like he was, uh, waving at the camera to watch her step out of a car that she just got picked up in is like, wow.

Sevan Matossian (17:25):

And then that, and then that other lady, w ba basically, uh, I don’t know if it was subtle, but she basically, lets lets you know that for the right price, she’ll blow you too. <laugh>.

Tommy GMcGee (17:35):

Yeah. She, as tempting as that offer was, I was able to say, no, thank you.

Sevan Matossian (17:40):

Her, this girl.

Tommy GMcGee (17:41):


Sevan Matossian (17:42):

She came back and was like, look, we can, let’s set up a time.

Tommy GMcGee (17:46):

She’s like, I can date you if, if you wanna date, we can date. And, uh, dating is slain for driving around in that old car or going to a CD motel. And, um, but the, you look at this woman, just the way she’s talking, that she’s slurring a little bit. She’s on something.

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

Oh, she didn’t open her eyes once the whole time she talked to her eyes were fucking closed.

Tommy GMcGee (18:04):

But sh the one thing that was also remarkable about speaking with her, she said she was a mother of four and all of her kids had gotten scholarships. And whether that’s true or not, I mean, I don’t think I, I felt like everyone was kind of giving me, uh, an honest perspective. I know sometimes drug addicts can just make up their own reality, but, um, to think her kids are sleeping at home somewhere potentially and she’s just out making money and paying the rent.

Sevan Matossian (18:29):

Yes. Yep. Hey, drugs are fucking addicting. If you, if you, you’ll do anything to, uh, people would do that for, uh, nicotine.

Tommy GMcGee (18:39):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>

Sevan Matossian (18:40):

People would suck dick for nicotine. Put a stranger’s penis in your mouth for a cigarette. I guarantee you it has happened.

Tommy GMcGee (18:48):

Imagine what people would do for just if we cut off coffee supplies to this country. Yes. Yes. I feel like if you wanted to cripple a country without any violence, just cut off the coffee supply and watch what happens.

Sevan Matossian (19:00):

I think you have to scoop these people up and then, uh, try to take them to a rehab and let them sober up for like a week and then let them go.

Tommy GMcGee (19:09):

I think you also, cuz uh, there was a very fascinating interview. It was, I think it was an old vice reporter. And it’s basically like, what he’s found is if people have meaning and purpose and then they have a community that oftentimes the drugs stop. And it’s like if you can get ’em sober for a little bit and then put ’em in a position where they’re doing something they find meaningful and then have people around them that love them. Yeah. That’s the recipe. But it’s a very hard recipe to cook up.

Sevan Matossian (19:34):

Um, did you, I I I wanna say the last time I had you on your YouTube station had like 289,000 and now you’re, you’re about to crest over 500,000. Did you have a big explosion?

Tommy GMcGee (19:44):

We’ve been having steady growth of anywhere from 50,000 to 90,000 subscribers a month. So we just, we just keep hammering away and we’re growing.

Sevan Matossian (19:53):

Who, who’s we?

Tommy GMcGee (19:55):

My team. I got, uh, so I do editing and then I also, so let’s say I go to, I’m going to LA and you guys are in LA right?

Sevan Matossian (20:02):

Uh, no. Santa Cruz North. I’m 300 miles north and into Caleb’s deployed overseas. He’s somewhere in the Middle East.

Tommy GMcGee (20:07):

Oh, okay, okay. Okay. Um, so when we go to LA in two weeks, I’m gonna probably come home with about six videos. So I’ll edit two of them. Uh, my guy Miguel will edit two of ’em and my guy Jack will edit two of them. That way we stay ahead of the curve. My guy Keegan is kind of the utility guy. He’s the second, um, camera. He’s always thinking of ideas. He’s booking. We’re, we’re doing a podcast. We’re launching that soon. So he is trying to book guests in all other places that we’re visiting so that we can do in-person podcasts. And then I have a, a, my buddy Kristen, she does my merch design. She does my thumbnails. Um, and Sarah, my wife, she’s, she just put in her letter of resignation. She’s gonna be handling my merch and then also helping me in our real estate portfolio. She’s a lot more detail oriented than I am. So I got a little team. So when I say we, it’s a definitely a team effort. We’re always brainstorming, thinking how to get better, thinking how we can advance this.

Sevan Matossian (20:58):

Um, uh, these, um, is one of your videographers a girl?

Tommy GMcGee (21:03):

Um, I’ve had, my friend Kristen has filmed a couple older videos, but no, most of them are, they’re all men.

Sevan Matossian (21:09):

Uh, cause I thought I, cuz I thought I saw a girl, um, follow you out of a building one time, uh, brunette in one of those videos.

Tommy GMcGee (21:17):

Mm, I don’t think so.

Sevan Matossian (21:19):

Uh, Jay Hardell, that doesn’t work. Savanna used to work in a rehab. Here’s the thing, it doesn’t have to work. Here’s the thing with addicts, I think every time they quit, when they, when they start up, the only thing that stops them from starting up again is the thought of like how much, how hard it is to quit. And they’re like, do I wanna go through that again? So maybe you have to quit like something 20 times before you’re like, fuck, I’m not doing that. That loop again. But arresting prostitutes and taking them to jail is just, uh, it’s just idiocy because especially kids, like my, my wife used to, uh, work in a juvenile hall teaching breathing classes and yoga to the kids. And she says there were 15 year old girls in there who were arrested for prostitution. Like, you can’t arrest a fucking kid for having sex

Tommy GMcGee (22:05):

Who’s been taken advantage of their whole life. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:08):

It, it makes no fucking sense.

Tommy GMcGee (22:10):


Sevan Matossian (22:12):

So, so going back to this team, um, uh, h how does that, how does that work? So like I can’t find people, like I can’t find people to help me that like, I, that that I think are may, maybe I’m just too uptight, but like, I, I feel like, and everyone who helps me, just, there’s, there’s just shortcomings to it.

Tommy GMcGee (22:34):

I know. Well one, um, like I, these are guys that I’ve spent, like, when we go on a trip, we might have 14 hour days where we’re just grinding, grinding, grinding, filming. Yeah. Always brainstorming, always come up with ideas.

Sevan Matossian (22:46):

Might have 14 hour days. Don’t lie to me. I can tell all your days are 14 hour days.

Tommy GMcGee (22:50):

I like, I like to get after it, but I also, um, I wanna make a life for myself and my family that, um, is, is remarkable. So, um, yeah. When these guys grind men, I try, I try and um, pay them well. I try to incur like bring ’em on experiences that are

Sevan Matossian (23:08):

Once Okay. So I don’t pay my guys. Maybe that’s the problem cuz we don’t have any money. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Tommy GMcGee (23:12):

That’s, that’s a huge thing. So yeah. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (23:14):

So you can yell at your guys. You can be like, dude, I told I I’ve told you three times not to fucking walk in between me and camera B.

Tommy GMcGee (23:20):

No, I’ll never, we always, we flow Well that’s the other thing. We flow very well. And um, that’s the thing. I think the, because like if I was just by myself, there’s no way I’d scale to the point that I am. And so like, it’s kind of our, like, yes, I’m the the head guy of the channel and it’s my face on it. But it does feel like a, we a team effort and people feel like they have ownership in the brand and they feel like, um, we’re charting in a, a special direction. So we have that really special buy-in.

Sevan Matossian (23:48):

Yeah. That’s cool. When, uh, how was your wedding? You, you got married since the last time I talked to you?

Tommy GMcGee (23:53):

Yeah, it was beautiful. It was a pinkies up occasion, uh, at the Fister Hotel in Milwaukee. So it was very nice. And

Sevan Matossian (24:01):

That’s a tough name for a place Fister. I

Tommy GMcGee (24:03):

Know, I

Sevan Matossian (24:04):

Imagine. I hardly know it

Tommy GMcGee (24:05):

Been made from from that, but just having all the people I love in the same room and, um, being able to say my vows publicly was very special to me. And give a toast to my, my pop that passed away when I was in high school and just have every, everyone there that I love and wanna hug and is very special.

Sevan Matossian (24:24):

What’s Pinky’s up mean?

Tommy GMcGee (24:26):

I’m not a fancy guy, but Pinky’s up is like, you know, it, the fist was a, her parents went all out for this wedding. Her mom planned it and um, they footed the bill for it. And it was fancy. It was nice. It was remarkable. So it was just, uh, we were very lucky that they, they, um, treated us to that event.

Sevan Matossian (24:45):

A Navy vet. Oh nine fists is gorgeous.

Tommy GMcGee (24:47):

It sure is.

Sevan Matossian (24:49):

So I just can’t get past the name. Sorry.

Tommy GMcGee (24:50):

You walk in there and you feel like if you don’t have a butler with you, you feel like, oh gosh, am I the one peasant in here? You know? So,

Sevan Matossian (24:57):

Hey, did Sergio Pettis congratulated you on your wedding? Let me see that again.

Tommy GMcGee (25:02):

Yeah, we, we trained together for a long time. Are we at the same gym in roofer sport? And, um, unfortunately, are you kidding? Have split.

Sevan Matossian (25:10):

Wow. That’s pretty fucking cool.

Tommy GMcGee (25:14):

He’s a really cool down to earth guy.

Sevan Matossian (25:16):

Yeah. Wow. Uh, the Pettus brothers, the world famous, uh, fighters. I mean, if you’re, if you like fighting, fuck these guys are the shit.

Tommy GMcGee (25:24):

Yeah. Sergio Pettus is like a ballerina assassin cause he’s so light on his feet, but like his spinning stuff, his, he just is, um, very surgical and technical and beautiful to watch when he fights.

Sevan Matossian (25:37):

Did, did, was it him or his brother who I saw, did him or his brother just win the bare knuckle million dollar? Uh, or at least fight in the final? Either him or his brother.

Tommy GMcGee (25:46):

I think his brother.

Sevan Matossian (25:47):

Yeah. Right. Wow. Crazy. So this, this team goes out and then do you fly with them so you’ll fly with them places?

Tommy GMcGee (25:58):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I travel in a group of three me, Keegan and Miguel. And between the three of us, we get it done. And so like we got LA in February, we’re looking at Phoenix and March, we’re looking at Houston and April and we’re looking at Brazil in June. I’m lining up the cards for that, but um, so we’re gonna be moving heavy these next few months.

Sevan Matossian (26:22):

Yeah. I feel like your sta I, I, when, when I went to your station, I feel like there were like all of a sudden eight videos I hadn’t seen mm-hmm.

Tommy GMcGee (26:29):

<affirmative>. What we tried our goal for this year is without a doubt, every Tuesday of the year you’ll get a new video that’s top-notch somewhere you haven’t been before. Somewhere interesting. Somewhere dangerous. And so it’s gonna be a hard pace to keep, but I’m confident we can do it,

Sevan Matossian (26:48):

Guys. Uh, so last night I, I was in the, uh, garage, uh, 10 o’clock at night, you know, getting my swell on and watching these videos and my nephew rolls in there and my nephews the, the coolest fucking kid ever from Texas grew up on a gaming ranch. Like, he’s like a normal human. He’s not like regular 20 year olds. Like he can talk to people and shit and, uh, make eye contact and all the shit that a lot of 20 year olds can’t do. And, um, uh, we’re watching these and I’m like, look at these videos. And he’s like, yeah. He’s like, I know this guy from the Kia Boys video. And I go, this is all compelling content. No crazy stupid editing with stupid sound effects. And like no fucking click bait, no hype. No, this is just compelling, uh, journalism. This is just like, it was nuts. And he’s like, yeah, because he, he he comes from that TikTok world where it’s, are you on TikTok?

Tommy GMcGee (27:44):

I am, but I’m like one video away from being permanently banned there too.

Sevan Matossian (27:49):

God, I don’t see anything you’re doing that’s controversial. It’s so fucking crazy. Like, you don’t pop on my radar at all. I would’ve never thought that for anything controversial.

Tommy GMcGee (28:01):

I guess it’s for like anything, any drugs that are illegal, like sipping that lien is technically illegal. But why wouldn’t you just age restricted or demonetize it? Why is that a strike? To me, that is

Sevan Matossian (28:12):

What is lien. I isn’t it just diluted cough syrup? Syrup?

Tommy GMcGee (28:16):

If you want the good stuff. It’s not diluted homeboy. It’s, it’s got that little pizzazz to it

Sevan Matossian (28:20):

When you, so you just, it’s just drinking Robitussin like what Lil Wayne does or

Tommy GMcGee (28:24):

No, it’s the next level. It’s a codeine, I think codeine in your cup. And, um,

Sevan Matossian (28:29):

How do you get it? Is it from just from a pharmacy, you have

Tommy GMcGee (28:31):

To have a doctor that can hook it up and these games rappers do and it’s, it’s that, that drink, it’s that purple drink. They mix it with Sprite, they mix with other stuff, but rappers are obsessed with it. Like Lil Wayne was addicted or still is addicted to it. And, um, it’s a big deal. I mean, you can get any, like any drug if you do, I do it too much, too long. It’s not good for you. But um,

Sevan Matossian (28:52):

Hold on. It sounds like someone’s running a vibrator. Listen.

Tommy GMcGee (28:55):

Oh yeah. I have guys working in my, my basement right now. We’re, we’re making

Sevan Matossian (28:58):

Sure, sure. You do <laugh>. Yeah, that was, that was either an electric toothbrush or a vibrator.

Tommy GMcGee (29:05):

If you guys can excuse me, I have to gimme 30 seconds, I’ll be back and I’ll be finished.

Sevan Matossian (29:09):

<laugh> <laugh>. Hey, isn’t it crazy that so big pharma can prescribe that, but you can’t show people drinking diluted, God, we live in such a weird world.

Tommy GMcGee (29:27):

Like who are these pussies in these offices that are like watching it and being like, yep. And also knowing like that’s, that’s the majority of my portfolio is all income streams from YouTube, the sponsorships, the ad revenue, the merch, and my YouTube doesn’t go, most of my income goes away and it’s like, I have a lot riding on this. I have people that, um, their biggest paycheck comes from me and my, my wife’s joining the team. And to think that arbitrarily and like of course I have a, I have a rep at YouTube and I’m a.

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