#748 – Double Feature | Jay Crouch and Dallin Pepper

Caleb Beaver (00:00):

Like, huh. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (00:03):

If I don’t, bam, we’re live. If I don’t, if I don’t, um, if I don’t e ever shave all my hair off and make myself bald, then I’ll never know. Like, why not just do it once?

Caleb Beaver (00:14):

Yeah. That’s kind of what I did. Uh, like I started losing my hair. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, then finally I was just said, fuck it, it, we’ll see if I have a weird head or not. And then I shaved it off and I think I got pretty lucky with how my nogging looks.

Sevan Matossian (00:28):

Oh yeah. Your head’s perfect. I don’t think mine is. I think I have a flat side on it from where I was in a bike accident as a kid.

Caleb Beaver (00:35):

Oh, really?

Sevan Matossian (00:36):

Said they had to cut open the side of my head and release the pressure off my brain.

Caleb Beaver (00:41):

I’m surprised you don’t have like a

Sevan Matossian (00:43):

I do.

Caleb Beaver (00:44):

Oh, you do? Huge.

Sevan Matossian (00:45):

Huge. Yeah. You just can’t see it cuz you just stare at my nose. It’s like one of those, uh, optical illusions.

Caleb Beaver (00:51):


Sevan Matossian (00:51):

Illusion. <laugh>. No, it’s in there. It’s just my hair. I have so much hair, you just can’t see it. Oh, we have Jay, uh, crouch on the Australian kid.

Caleb Beaver (01:03):

Uh, Rob too, or no?

Sevan Matossian (01:05):

Uh, I don’t know. It’d be interesting if he brings his chaperone. I, Rob’s always welcome.

Caleb Beaver (01:09):

Of course. I wonder if his security guard will be here this time too.

Sevan Matossian (01:12):

Oh yeah, that’s right. I forgot about that. The guy in the back who just doesn’t talk,

Caleb Beaver (01:17):

It’s, it’s not his brother, apparently <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (01:21):

And, um, I have a, uh, uh, God, I have these, uh, Listerine strips on like regular order because, because I used to always, these were, these used to be my treats whenever I would go filming.

Caleb Beaver (01:38):


Sevan Matossian (01:39):

I would always put one of these in my camera bag and then like, just so no one thinks I stink. But now I have so many of them because I don’t film and, and they’re on Amazon reorder. So my house is just full of these things,

Caleb Beaver (01:51):

Just haven’t canceled it <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (01:54):

So I’m like, you know what? Fuck it. I’m just gonna start eating them on the show even though that there’s no one in here to smell my ass breath.

Caleb Beaver (02:00):


Sevan Matossian (02:01):

Hey, if your wife had bad breath, would you tell her?

Caleb Beaver (02:03):


Sevan Matossian (02:04):

Yeah. I’d tell my wife too in a second, but I worry that maybe she wouldn’t tell me.

Caleb Beaver (02:11):

Yeah. I can see that. I, I feel like my wife and I have a pretty like, communicative relationship, so like, if there’s anything that one of us is doing, the other doesn’t like, like we’re pretty quick to call each other out on it.

Sevan Matossian (02:24):

Yeah. Hey, your breath smells like gas.

Caleb Beaver (02:27):

Yeah. Like did you brush your teeth this morning?

Sevan Matossian (02:31):

I don’t mind. Like garlic breath though, or stuff like that. Like, just like, Ooh, no, not

Caleb Beaver (02:35):

A fan. I don’t like onions. I can’t do that kind of stuff.

Sevan Matossian (02:40):

Oh, I got, I got, oh, you can’t do onions either.

Caleb Beaver (02:44):

Like, if it’s on somebody’s breath that then I haven’t, I have an issue with it. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (02:49):


Caleb Beaver (02:50):

I gotta, I’ll eat them, but I just, sometimes the smell is just too much.

Sevan Matossian (02:56):

I love coming home and my wife’s cooking onions, like, you know what I mean? They’re stirring in the pan and butter. Do you like that?

Caleb Beaver (03:02):

Oh yeah. I enjoy that. I don’t, they don’t, they don’t make, is it onion that makes your eyes water?

Sevan Matossian (03:07):


Caleb Beaver (03:08):

Yeah. I, I don’t have that issue, but we had to like get some goggles for my wife cuz she just starts like sobbing when she makes them. But I enjoy when she makes them. They’re pretty good.

Sevan Matossian (03:18):

Dude. Someone, I just saw a video on Instagram that said if you cut an onion a certain way, I can’t remember what it is. Like if you don’t cut the head off an onion or if you cut it a certain way, it won’t, uh, it won’t make your eyes water. Whatever. Someone will, someone will say it now in the um, someone will say it now in the comments and maybe, and let us know. Hey Jay. What’s up dude? Hola. [inaudible] Hoola. Jay Hoola. Uh, oh, wait, here it is. Uh, yeah. Uh, no, not, I wasn’t making Instagram clips last night. I was making, uh, YouTube shorts. Yeah, I was up late. I did not, I I I did not get a good night’s sleep last night. I, I was thinking about drinking two cups of coffee this morning. Uh, bye Jay. It was nice having you. You’re one of the best interviews we’ve done with you. Thank you.

Caleb Beaver (04:17):

Just happy to see your face, buddy.

Sevan Matossian (04:19):

Yeah, I have great hope for him. Uh,

Caleb Beaver (04:27):

I noticed that, you know how he like, I don’t know, I I, I noticed this with like Fee and Alexis, I maybe a couple others too, but for a while it was like, it was almost like they were just playing a game and they just thought it was fun and they’re like, oh, this is cool. Like, I’m pretty decent at CrossFit. Yeah. But then in the past year or so, I’ve watched the both of them just like, I don’t know, get serious, I guess.

Sevan Matossian (04:51):

Hey, it’s funny you say that. I think that Aniel guy is kind of in that phase.

Caleb Beaver (04:56):


Sevan Matossian (04:57):

Yeah. I think he’s in the, like, you know, you go from, I want a nice body to, uh, I’m gonna quit smoking weed you to, okay, I’m gonna do a competition to, oh fuck, I don’t drink alcohol or, uh, go on Tinder anymore. You know what I mean? That’s the evolution of a young

Caleb Beaver (05:17):

CrossFitter in their face.

Sevan Matossian (05:19):

<laugh>. Yeah. Okay. Is right Jay, am I right?

Jay Crouch (05:23):

I think so. I think it’s gone that way,

Sevan Matossian (05:24):

Right? You start CrossFit just like, like you’re, you’re 19. You start CrossFit cuz you got your high school’s done and you’re kind of a loser and you wanna have a nice body <laugh>, and then at 2020 you’re like, oh, I’m pretty good at this. I’m gonna stop smoking weed. Then at 21 you’re like, fuck I’m, I might stop drinking on the weekends, <laugh>. And then by the time you’re 27 and you’re doing all the right shit, you’re like, fuck, I waited too long. I should have started like cutting all that shit out when I was 19. Mm-hmm.

Jay Crouch (05:49):

Yeah. I think maybe that was, maybe that was sort of five years ago. The CrossFit space. I feel like all Are you talking about like games though? Athletes now? Or just anyone trying to compete

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

In Uh, maybe, maybe. Yeah, maybe you’re right. You, you’re, so you’re saying that the games athletes are all serious as a heart attack now? Like no one’s dicking around, but maybe like even the semi-final guys, maybe now it’s like down in the semi-final guys. Oh, I’m just doing it for fun. But really it’s just an excuse not to tighten up your

Jay Crouch (06:17):

Shit. Yeah. Yeah. That’s spot on. I feel like the games level guys now sort of Yeah. Up like been doing CrossFits since, uh, like 13, 14, 15. Well, that’s how it’s getting.

Sevan Matossian (06:27):

Yeah, they’re they’re they. Yeah. Are you, are you pretty mu We had Jorge Hernandez on, he says he hasn’t even had a drink in two years. Hernandez. Oh, what’d I say? Yeah,

Jay Crouch (06:35):

I saw that. I

Sevan Matossian (06:36):

Saw that too. I’m just gonna say Jorge the Mexican. I can’t, can’t just Jorge the Mexican <laugh>. Uh, yeah. He, he hasn’t had a drink or he is had one beer in two years. I just love that.

Jay Crouch (06:44):

Yeah. That’s impressive. That’s

Sevan Matossian (06:46):

Very, yeah. How many, how many beers have you had in two years?

Jay Crouch (06:50):

Ooh, too many to Camp

Sevan Matossian (06:53):

<laugh>. Have you, have you thrown up from drinking in the last two years? From over drinking?

Jay Crouch (06:58):


Sevan Matossian (06:59):

Oh, wow. Okay. At your age. I was throwing up like every three weeks. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I would be throwing up from over drinking. Now in hindsight, I’m like, what was I thinking?

Jay Crouch (07:09):

Yeah, I know. Hate yourself for it.

Sevan Matossian (07:13):

Yeah. Every time I I I, I’ve probably thrown up a hundred times from drinking as a kid and I just, every time I’m like, why? That’s, yeah. I’m not even exaggerating. That’s only, I went to college for seven years. That’s only, um, a hundred times is only like 12 times a year during college. <laugh> over drinking. Not bad.

Jay Crouch (07:31):


Sevan Matossian (07:32):

<laugh>. It’s only, only 12 weekends a year for seven years. Went to undergrad for seven years. That’s

Jay Crouch (07:38):

A lot though.

Caleb Beaver (07:39):

I ask the reflex. You

Jay Crouch (07:40):

Have, I’ve given up well before. If, if I, if I’ve thrown up 10 times drinking, I would’ve given up for sure.

Sevan Matossian (07:47):

You’ve never thrown up 10 times from drinking in your life?

Jay Crouch (07:50):

Nah, I wouldn’t.

Sevan Matossian (07:51):

Um, I’m, I’m impressed.

Jay Crouch (07:52):

Definitely count on one. Definitely got count on one hand. <laugh>.

Caleb Beaver (07:56):

Are you a beer guy or a liquor guy?

Jay Crouch (07:59):

Um, I’ll start on beers usually, but it’s not, that’s probably time. It’s just special occasions. Like you

Caleb Beaver (08:06):

Just, you get full off the beer and then it’s like you’re

Jay Crouch (08:08):

Done. Yeah. Maybe I have like six beers and then just move on. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (08:12):

Jay, are you in that, are you in the hotel across the street from Wa Appalooza?

Jay Crouch (08:16):

Um, it’s not across the street. No. It’s like about 10 minute walk.

Sevan Matossian (08:21):

Okay. But close.

Jay Crouch (08:22):


Sevan Matossian (08:22):

Close. And that’s a fake ass plant behind you?

Jay Crouch (08:25):


Sevan Matossian (08:26):

<laugh>. All right. All right. And that’s your hotel? I can’t tell if you’re in a lobby or a hotel room.

Jay Crouch (08:31):

No, we’re in. Yeah, we just got an apartment, Airbnb, so it was pretty worked out pretty well.

Sevan Matossian (08:36):

And who are you there with?

Jay Crouch (08:38):

Uh, just my manager. Andreas

Sevan Matossian (08:41):

No Forte?

Jay Crouch (08:42):

No, no, not this time.

Sevan Matossian (08:44):

Did you have falling out?

Jay Crouch (08:46):

No. <laugh>? No. He is just looking after the kids. He’s a busy man.

Sevan Matossian (08:49):

Okay. Rob check relationship. Good. Is is he bombed? Did he want to come?

Jay Crouch (08:54):

Um, I don’t think he wouldn’t have come, like wouldn’t have wanted to come.

Sevan Matossian (09:00):

Uh, but, but just you and the manager? Yes. Yes. No. Oh, no, no. Maddie.

Jay Crouch (09:05):

No. No. Maddie.

Sevan Matossian (09:06):

But is she still in the rotation? She’s your lady? Yeah.

Jay Crouch (09:09):


Sevan Matossian (09:09):

But no Miami? No Miami? No Miami. Maddie, she’s,

Jay Crouch (09:13):

She’s bummed. She like, she definitely wanted to come.

Sevan Matossian (09:16):

Oh God. That could be a, you should write a children’s book. You could write a book. No, Miami Maddie <laugh> and like, just like pour your how out heart out to her about how much you miss her

Jay Crouch (09:24):


Sevan Matossian (09:25):

Oh. Why, why are you doing this? Why wa Appalooza? What’s up?

Jay Crouch (09:29):

Um, well, originally I was just wanted to come over and check it out and just sort of enjoy, um, sort of a break holiday that’s, that wasn’t competing for once. Um, and then I just reached out to, uh, my sponsor Goad and said, you know, I’m gonna be over there if he’s got anything that you want me to do. And, uh, they said, are you sure you don’t wanna compete with sort of forming this team? And they told me who was on the team and that was it. I was in

Sevan Matossian (09:55):

Okay. We were, we were speculating how certain teams come together and Brian was like, Hey, it’s, the sponsors are a great like, networking site for, uh, the athletes.

Jay Crouch (10:04):

Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome.

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

And who’s on your team?

Jay Crouch (10:08):

Uh, Roman and Willie.

Sevan Matossian (10:11):

What a crazy team.

Jay Crouch (10:13):

Yeah. That’s awesome. It’s a good opportunity, that’s for sure.

Sevan Matossian (10:17):

Have you ever met Roman before?

Jay Crouch (10:19):

Yeah. Yeah. I’ve met him just at, just competing at the games. I haven’t spoke to him too much. Um, but yeah,

Sevan Matossian (10:26):

I, I’m guessing since the last time you’ve seen him, he’s, he’s quadrupled his, uh, vocabulary.

Jay Crouch (10:32):

Yeah, we’ll see.

Sevan Matossian (10:33):

What do you think? Have you heard that? Like, I’ve heard his English is like,

Jay Crouch (10:38):

Yeah, I haven’t, uh, no, I haven’t heard that. But I mean, I messaged him, uh, the other day just to say, you know, I’m pumped. Hope trainer’s going, well look forward to, you know, catching up and, and competing. And he’s like, I think you reply with uh, hello. Everything is fine. We must win <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (10:58):

Oh, he did say that. We must win

Jay Crouch (11:01):

<laugh>. I was like, dang. All right, let’s do it.

Sevan Matossian (11:03):

<laugh>. Hey, that’s some like Rocky Ivan Drago shit, right? <laugh>.

Jay Crouch (11:06):


Sevan Matossian (11:06):

Know. I must break you.

Jay Crouch (11:08):

I had a, I had a good laugh, so. Yeah. Yeah. It’ll be funny. I think I’m looking forward to it.

Sevan Matossian (11:13):

<laugh>, uh, I I, I had a lot of family come from overseas, a lot of immigrants my whole life. And there’s like this standard line that, um, uh, immigrants say at least my uncles and aunts, I would hear them say, like, you say something to ’em and they always go, no problem, no problem, no problem. Or whenever I’d be overseas, that’s like a kind of like a English, um, phrase that a lot of foreigners use. And, uh, I, I had a little text exchange with Rome, with Roman and I, he wrote down one time, I can’t remember what I said, Hey, uh, thanks for coming on my podcast. And he wrote No problem, <laugh> and I, and I could just hear it in his voice like, Ivan Drago No problem. I must break you.

Jay Crouch (11:50):

That’s for sure. No

Sevan Matossian (11:51):

Problem. <laugh>. Oh, I I can’t wait to, if he doesn’t talk English, I can’t. Well, I hope he does. Eventually come on the podcast. He eventually said, Hey, I can’t make it. Yeah. But uh, if not, I’m going to need, uh, you and, uh, you know, his training partner Lo Logan Ewing?

Jay Crouch (12:07):

Uh, I think so. I don’t, I don’t know him. VA saw, I think I just saw him. He put up a story the other day that shocked me with Roman just, you know, cruising on the skier got like over 3000 cows an hour. I was like, dang.

Sevan Matossian (12:20):

<laugh>. Yeah. I think that Logan’s like just his chaperone at Mayhem and he just like hangs out with Roman and lets Roman just beat up on him, I think. Yeah.

Jay Crouch (12:28):

<laugh>. That’s crazy, man. I couldn’t believe that video.

Sevan Matossian (12:33):

Hey, what, um, what do you need a, you just got a brand new Jeep Rubicon?

Jay Crouch (12:37):

Yes, I did about four months ago now, I

Sevan Matossian (12:40):

Think so. So you don’t need a vacation to Miami

Jay Crouch (12:43):

<laugh>? No, I know, I know. Nah, it’s uh, it’s very cool here, but I haven’t seen, yeah, nah, it’s awesome. It’s a good car.

Sevan Matossian (12:54):

<laugh>. What, what did you have before then?

Jay Crouch (12:56):

Uh, I had a Ford Ranger.

Sevan Matossian (12:58):

Oh God. I was so hoping you were gonna say you had like a 1987 Honda Civic with the seats all chewed up from your dog or

Jay Crouch (13:05):

Something. <laugh>? No, not quite, but no, that’s cool. It’s, um, it loves, it loves the, uh, feel, that’s for sure. I feel like I’m filling it up all the time.

Sevan Matossian (13:16):

Um, you’re sucking down the gas.

Jay Crouch (13:18):

Yeah. Big time. But no, it’s awesome. I think one of the hot days that we had, I took the roof off and I was like, this is sick. It just changes the whole feel of the car again.

Sevan Matossian (13:27):

<laugh>. Does Maddie like it?

Jay Crouch (13:28):

Yeah, she loves it. She’s always wanted one, so.

Sevan Matossian (13:32):

Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Thank you. Look at that. That’s a hundred dollars.

Jay Crouch (13:39):

Oh dang.

Sevan Matossian (13:40):

That’s double what your sponsor paid you.

Jay Crouch (13:42):


Sevan Matossian (13:44):

Never stop focusing on the viewers. See y’all in Miami. Audrey Fraser. Thank you. Better

Jay Crouch (13:49):

Respect that.

Sevan Matossian (13:49):

God, that’s crazy generous. Actually, we gotta have you on more often, Jay. Well

Jay Crouch (13:54):

That just popped out, I was watching one of your videos the other day. I think it was, uh, maybe with Travis and Pat and I saw like comment come up down the bottom and I think someone called you se Uhhuh <affirmative>. I was just wondering if I could call you se

Sevan Matossian (14:08):

Oh, Jay. I would love it. I would love it. Oh my God, I would love it.

Jay Crouch (14:14):


Sevan Matossian (14:15):


Jay Crouch (14:16):


Sevan Matossian (14:17):

Jay’s girlfriend’s name is mad and his friend’s name is se I could be in the book. I could be in the book done. I’m missing Maddy in Miami, but at least I have se we

Jay Crouch (14:26):

Got se we’re

Sevan Matossian (14:27):

All good. Yeah, I, I like it. Um, and and and you’re building a new gym?

Jay Crouch (14:32):

Yes. Yeah, we just moved in cause I’ve still living with mom and dad. Um, and we

Sevan Matossian (14:37):

Just Well, you, you have a gym big enough you could move into. Yeah. It’s kind of funny to say you live with mom and dad and yet you have your own personal brick wall gym.

Jay Crouch (14:45):

<laugh>. Yeah, it’s getting there, but uh, yeah, the house only just finished up probably like a month or two ago, so yeah, that’s been awesome. In the new house back with the fam. So the gym should be ready I think maybe April-ish, see how we go.

Sevan Matossian (15:01):

Are all four walls up? The video I saw was two walls and a um,

Jay Crouch (15:06):

And a concrete slab. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (15:08):

Slab. Yeah.

Jay Crouch (15:09):

Yeah. So the, the brick walls are up. Um, and then it’s gonna be like cathedral ceiling. Um, so we’re still waiting on all the steel and all that to come, but, uh, yeah, they should, they should uh, build it pretty quickly.

Sevan Matossian (15:21):

And and how, and how was that? Were you having permitting issues? I thought I saw that you were, there were some obstacles with permitting maybe You mentioned in a video you made.

Jay Crouch (15:29):

Uh, just building, like getting trades and all that sort of stuff. It’s um, really busy at home getting, getting material as well. So there was a bit of a hold up with that. But I think, yeah, now everyone’s sort of back from the Christmas break. I think they’ll, uh, smash it out quick.

Sevan Matossian (15:45):

Hey, what are you guys doing? Are you guys still playing the game over there with that, with the virus or is, are you guys done with that? Yeah,

Jay Crouch (15:52):

It’s all, all done now. Thanks Lee.

Sevan Matossian (15:54):

Did you say our government, just our government just yesterday told the soldiers, Hey, you don’t have to take it. We give up.

Jay Crouch (16:01):

Yeah. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (16:02):

Kind of crazy, right? Is that right? Did you see that yesterday? Yeah, I

Jay Crouch (16:05):

Did. That’s just got approved.

Sevan Matossian (16:07):

Thanks guys. Yeah. What’d you say? Thanks guys. <laugh>? Yeah, <laugh>. You know Cal, I don’t know if you know this. J Caleb’s deployed. Oh, okay. He’s in the US military, so he’s in the desert somewhere in a totally different time zone where he can’t tell us where he is, but he’s deployed <laugh>, so, so he keeps us up to date on who, what’s going on over there. That’s awesome. What he can, uh, okay, so, uh, that, that gym is on your parents’ property?

Jay Crouch (16:33):

Yes. Yeah. So they got just under 18 acres.

Sevan Matossian (16:39):

Um, and that’s the way you keep your kid just stay home forever?

Jay Crouch (16:45):

Uh, yeah, pretty much. They’ve, yeah, they like, cuz I got a brother, younger brother as well and um, yeah, they pretty much built their house sort of. So we had our own section at one end. So we’re pretty fun. We’re set up for as long as we need, which is wicked.

Sevan Matossian (16:58):

Yeah, that’s genius. And they built a gym on the property.

Jay Crouch (17:01):

Yeah. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (17:03):

God, that’s so good. That’s so smart. Hey, uh, and would your parents let you stay there forever? Like build a house on the property and raise your family there? Like you have that kind of like family, like that’s close like that? Yeah.

Jay Crouch (17:14):

Yeah, we’re very close like that for sure.

Sevan Matossian (17:16):

Yeah. Your parents are smart <laugh>. Yeah. Your parents are smart. Yeah. You don’t want your, no one wants their kids to leave. Well, I guess, I don’t know. I shouldn’t say that. Half the parents want their kids to leave, but Yeah. <laugh> not if you have a good kid like Jay Crouch.

Jay Crouch (17:29):

<laugh>, yeah. Nah, it’s good. Um, there’s, I think if we could, I think it’s just be a problem probably with getting titles and stuff to build more houses on the property, but, uh, yeah, that’d be super cool.

Sevan Matossian (17:41):

Is there, are you on a well there?

Jay Crouch (17:44):

Um, no, no, it’s just sort

Sevan Matossian (17:47):

Of a city water.

Jay Crouch (17:49):

Um, nah, nah, you can, oh, we are on mains water, but you have like tank water and all that sort of stuff as well.

Sevan Matossian (17:55):

What do, what do you mean tank water? Like at my house there’s a hole in the ground and there’s a pump. Oh. But like my neighbors are attached to the city, so they drink water that comes from the city like a reservoir.

Jay Crouch (18:06):


Sevan Matossian (18:06):

Right. But I pull my water out of the ground. Where, where do you, where do you get your water?

Jay Crouch (18:10):

Oh yeah, so we’re same, same sort of, so city water is, is we’re connected to. Um, okay. But we have like a tank water as well, so we’ll have, you know, just tanks that fill up

Sevan Matossian (18:21):

From rain.

Jay Crouch (18:22):

Yeah, from rain, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (18:24):

No shit.

Jay Crouch (18:24):


Sevan Matossian (18:26):

Is that common in Australia?

Jay Crouch (18:27):

Yeah. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (18:29):

Um, and you drink that water or that’s for irrigation?

Jay Crouch (18:32):

Yeah. Yeah, we drink it.

Sevan Matossian (18:34):

Oh God, you gotta send, is that tank above ground?

Jay Crouch (18:38):

Uh, I think, no, we put one in the, we put one in the ground, A concrete one in the

Sevan Matossian (18:41):

Ground. And then how does it get collected?

Jay Crouch (18:44):

Uh, from the roof off the house? Um, everything. Yeah, just, uh, what is it? Um, like stone? Yeah. Stonewater adrenal, that sort of stuff.

Sevan Matossian (18:54):

Yeah. If you did that in the United States, you’d be like considered like some sort of hippie off the grid shit. That’s that’s normal in Australia to do that. Yeah,

Jay Crouch (19:01):


Sevan Matossian (19:02):

Yeah. That’s illegal in some parts of the us. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah. God,

Caleb Beaver (19:05):

I have a permit cord or something. It’s ridiculous. Yeah, right. I mean you have to have like a reason to not use city or wa city water.

Jay Crouch (19:13):

Yeah. Well my, yeah, my dad’s a plumber so I probably, I don’t know if I’m explaining it well, but um, yeah, yeah, we’ve done that forever.

Sevan Matossian (19:20):

Hey, is water expensive there?

Jay Crouch (19:22):


Sevan Matossian (19:23):

No. You don’t hear people like your parents complaining like, Hey, don’t water the plants outside. The water’s too expensive. Is hear water’s crazy expensive here. Crazy expensive.

Jay Crouch (19:31):

Yeah, right

Caleb Beaver (19:32):

Here too. Yeah. Can you believe

Sevan Matossian (19:34):

That? I believe it is. Is it? You’ve heard that Caleb, it is crazy expensive there. Yeah, yeah. Like no water in their lawn.

Caleb Beaver (19:41):

Yeah. And then they do the same thing where they like have like a basin or they just catch rainwater whenever it comes out. And then everything else is just bottled water. Like you, you have to buy bottled water every, anytime you want water to drink?

Sevan Matossian (19:54):

Uh, se no Ken, that’s just for Jay Buddy. <laugh>, uh, se is that why you never shower? Too much time to pump? No, no, no. The pump works good. It, the pump’s great. <laugh>. It’s cheap and it’s free. Uh, here, here, uh, are you’re just doing team or are you doing individual and team?

Jay Crouch (20:12):

Yeah, just team

Sevan Matossian (20:14):

And, and why not both?

Jay Crouch (20:16):


Sevan Matossian (20:17):

Not that I’m hating on you for it. I wouldn’t do both either. Sounds crazy.

Jay Crouch (20:20):

Yeah. Uh, I don’t know. I’m just here. Just have, have a good time.

Sevan Matossian (20:24):

Are are you in in peak shape or you’re only at 98%?

Jay Crouch (20:28):

Um, no, I feel pretty good. Feel pretty good in a good spot.

Sevan Matossian (20:33):

And, and uh, mentally from a video I watched from you, the games were kind of tough on you just in terms of the fact it was like, oh shit, these guys are really good. Not that you did bad, but like, wow, this, this is, I just landed in the, the superhero camp.

Jay Crouch (20:48):

Yeah. And it, it wasn’t that I didn’t know that already, but I think yeah, there was, there was a few factors I could, I could blame, but um, yeah, I feel like the main one was just, yeah, not really exposing myself to the heat before with enough time. Um, LA was awesome where we saved for the like, I think it was like 10 days before, but it was, you know, I think only sort of the hottest day was maybe like 22, 20 to 25. Um, so then when I got to Madison with like 30 degree, 30 degree, 30 degree plus days, I was like, dang, this is, this hit me hard. So anything, anything uh, that we had outside, um, competing. I was, I was, yeah, just stunned almost.

Sevan Matossian (21:32):

Uh, what, what, what place did you end up getting at the games?

Jay Crouch (21:35):

Uh, I think it was 28th.

Sevan Matossian (21:37):

Okay. I was gonna guess 24th. Yeah.

Jay Crouch (21:40):

Sorry, it’s Celsius. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (21:41):

Oh, oh yeah. And I’m sure you had many days that were well over 30 in uh, yeah, in Madison. It gets nasty there.

Jay Crouch (21:48):

Yeah, for sure.

Sevan Matossian (21:49):

It hit me. And so, so you’re gonna go early this year?

Jay Crouch (21:53):

Yeah, I want to go maybe at minimum three weeks. Three weeks earlier.

Sevan Matossian (22:00):

And when you do that, so that’s okay, you’re willing to compromise your training to acclimate to the heat. Like do you have, do you have to compromise your training if you go three weeks early?

Jay Crouch (22:11):

Um, no, I don’t think so. Like if I find a good spot and a good crew to train with, I don’t think it will, um, change too much. Um, and it’s, oh, it’s only gonna be good things. Having more time to, you know, get over the massive flight that we have to do. Um, and yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:29):

Uh, the, the change in qualifications to get to the games, does that affect you at all?

Jay Crouch (22:36):

Uh, no. No. I think like we are still gonna only gonna have one comp in Australia that qualifies for it. So it’s yeah, much the same for us. Hopefully we can snag a few more spots, but we’ll wait and see.

Sevan Matossian (22:49):

And, and uh, how, how did you do in the uh, uh, sanctional last year? Semi-final, whatever they call it?

Jay Crouch (22:55):

Uh, good. I won.

Sevan Matossian (22:56):

You did? Yeah. And who took second?

Jay Crouch (23:00):


Sevan Matossian (23:01):

Oh really?

Jay Crouch (23:02):


Sevan Matossian (23:03):

You put it to Ricky?

Jay Crouch (23:04):

Yeah, I did.

Sevan Matossian (23:05):

Oh God, I hope you threw up that night. What a great feeling. Sorry Ricky, I love you, but what a great feeling to put into Mr. Rickey. Yeah. Cow. And so, and, and only two of you go to the games.

Jay Crouch (23:17):

Uh, three. It was

Sevan Matossian (23:18):

So And who was the third dude?

Jay Crouch (23:20):

Uh, Badden Brown.

Sevan Matossian (23:22):

Oh yeah, that was in, in pe the, the Mayhem guy. The big old giant dude didn’t make it. What was his name?

Jay Crouch (23:28):

Uh, Roy Stun.

Sevan Matossian (23:29):

Yeah. People were all crying and shit. Yeah. Poor Royce <laugh>. So this year with the new format, the three of you could make it and Royce could still make it.

Jay Crouch (23:37):

Yeah. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (23:37):

Exactly. Royce is like, fuck you, I’m taking first this year

Jay Crouch (23:40):

<laugh>. Yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, so hopefully yeah, if we can go go to fourth spot, that’d be awesome. And there’s tons of like upcoming talent as well, which we saw at, uh, just recently, the down under championship. So it’s gonna be Yeah, pretty, pretty sacked again,

Sevan Matossian (23:56):

I think.

Jay Crouch (23:56):

Um, it’s coming back too.

Sevan Matossian (23:58):


Jay Crouch (23:59):

Ka I think he’s coming back Individual. So

Sevan Matossian (24:02):

I thought he was retiring.

Jay Crouch (24:05):

Uh, I don’t think so. Not that I’ve heard.

Sevan Matossian (24:07):

All right, fair enough. Uh, Royce Dunn is fun to say. Yeah,

Jay Crouch (24:14):


Sevan Matossian (24:16):

<laugh>. I think I, I have screwed his name up a few times, right. Caleb? Do you remember what I used to? I called him accidentally a few times.

Jay Crouch (24:22):

Hey, he’s been, hasn’t

Sevan Matossian (24:24):

He? Yeah, he’s been, he’s been on, yeah, he’s a great dude. But I think I was calling him, uh, Roy Duns <laugh> instead of Roy’s Dunn. I think I was calling him Roy Duns for a second. <laugh>. Um, you know, we had, uh, Ola Aon yesterday and we didn’t, we didn’t know his name in the beginning, so we were just calling him anal

Jay Crouch (24:46):


Sevan Matossian (24:46):

That uh, we, we always had, we always had your name right though, Jay. Don’t worry. Yeah. Thank

Jay Crouch (24:52):

You. Appreciate that.

Sevan Matossian (24:53):

We never switched up or anything like that. Uh, so, but, but you guys don’t know how many people do get to go.

Jay Crouch (25:02):

Uh, just a three, A minimum of three

Sevan Matossian (25:06):

And then there’s some sort of ranking assessment that maybe you’ll get a couple more.

Jay Crouch (25:10):

Yeah, I haven’t looked into how it works too much, but I’ve heard people saying that’s like, based on how could we do in the open or something

Sevan Matossian (25:17):

Each. Yeah, there’s some, I I don’t think anyone knows yet. I don’t think they’ve released the formula yet. Okay. The calculation, right. Is that true Caleb?

Caleb Beaver (25:26):

As far as I know. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (25:29):

Um, and, and then, uh, and then, uh, Maddie had a tremendous showing last year also.

Jay Crouch (25:34):


Sevan Matossian (25:34):

She did. Did she take fourth?

Jay Crouch (25:36):

She took fourth. Yeah. I think it was only like three or four points too.

Sevan Matossian (25:41):

So this could be huge. Yeah, she had that like the, like a amazing final event, right, with the deadlift. She basically did what she needed to do.

Jay Crouch (25:47):

Yeah, exactly.

Sevan Matossian (25:49):

And so this could be tremendous for her

Jay Crouch (25:51):

For sure. Like I think, uh, especially with Tia out now as well, um, obviously there’s still a minimum of three spots, so, um, it’s good for her. Definitely.

Sevan Matossian (26:03):

Hey, and people like, um, Ellie, uh, I does she I think it’s just where you live now.

Jay Crouch (26:09):


Sevan Matossian (26:10):

So I think Ellie’s just gonna be on the west coast of the United States. Oh

Jay Crouch (26:13):


Sevan Matossian (26:13):

Is, I think. Oh cool. And anyone in the comments, like, Ellie doesn’t go back to Australia, right?

Caleb Beaver (26:19):

I think there’s like exemptions that you put in, like depending on where you’re living and they’re like passport size, but they just get, they just granted one to Roman to be able to compete I think in North America,

Jay Crouch (26:30):

All that. Yeah. So, well that’s interesting. But I mean,

Sevan Matossian (26:35):

I don’t know what I’m talking about either without Brian here, like I’m 50% sure and Caleb’s 75% sure. <laugh>

Caleb Beaver (26:42):

For sure. <laugh> right.

Jay Crouch (26:45):

Someone in the comment. It’s nice.

Sevan Matossian (26:48):

Hey, um, I’ve been doing this thing where I stopped eating at, uh, I can’t remember if it’s six or seven, but anyway, I’m not eating after, I’m not eating in the night anymore. It’s, it’s, it’s my new rule. It’s only been two days.

Jay Crouch (27:01):


Sevan Matossian (27:02):

You have any rules like that? Because I was eating like 2000 calories before I went to bed. Like I would just eat like, yeah, like, just like, just a half a bag of macadamian nuts and apple and uh, uh, I don’t know, just crazy shit.

Jay Crouch (27:13):

Yeah, I’m like that too. I eat, definitely eat more of a nighttime, that’s for sure. Um, but no, I don’t have any rules like that. If I’m hungry, I’ll, I’ll just eat.

Sevan Matossian (27:22):

Yeah, you can just eat as much as you want. You’re just a caloric burning machine. <laugh>. And what is, uh, what is uh, peak training days look like for you? What’s just like the most horrendous days?

Jay Crouch (27:33):

The most horrendous days? Uh,

Sevan Matossian (27:35):

By the way, I recommend anyone who’s a night eater and who’s to, to, I cannot believe the change in my body in two days. It is fucking nuts, but go on.

Jay Crouch (27:45):

Uh, yeah. Horrendous training day. I would have like, maybe like a zone two in the morning. Um,

Sevan Matossian (27:51):

Okay, what’s that?

Jay Crouch (27:52):

Which is usually like 30 to 60 minutes, just sort of, you know, on the bike or just sweating it out basically. Um, and then of an afternoon around four o’clock we’ll just hit, um, our usual session, which usually goes for like two, two and a half hours. And that’s pretty much a normal, normal sort of, oh, our biggest training day. Um, and then sometimes in the morning it will change to like a swim or something like that, or or running at the track.

Sevan Matossian (28:21):

So is it b is your horrendous day? Every day basically. You always do two a days?

Jay Crouch (28:26):

Uh, that’s three days a week. So our easier days are, yeah. So nothing in the morning

Sevan Matossian (28:32):

And, and

Jay Crouch (28:33):


Sevan Matossian (28:33):

Are you a seven day a week guy?

Jay Crouch (28:36):

Uh, no, five.

Sevan Matossian (28:39):

I got a buddy who is a sleepwalk eater. Dang. I d i if I do that, I don’t know, I do that. I don’t think I do that. Once I go to sleep, I don’t start eating again. You ever eat in the middle of the night? Like you wake up and eat?

Jay Crouch (28:52):

Nah, I’ve never done that.

Sevan Matossian (28:53):

Yeah, I don’t think that, that doesn’t sound fun at all. I

Caleb Beaver (28:56):

Would only wake, can you do that one time when I woke up with like crazy heartburn and I was like, this is not for me.

Sevan Matossian (29:01):

Uh, nighttime eating, middle of the night eating. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds

Jay Crouch (29:05):

That would, that would just wake me up. I wouldn’t get back to

Sevan Matossian (29:08):

Sleep. No way. Yeah, me neither. Uh, Caleb eat. Oh, where is it? Caleb eats seven or eight mustache hairs a day, minimum.

Caleb Beaver (29:16):

<laugh>, you’re probably right. Sometimes I’ll look down at my styrofoam, uh, a little tray. I’ll just see them like sprinkled about styrofoam plate and I’m like, yep, I’ve eaten a couple.

Sevan Matossian (29:28):

I had a minimum protein cake, I made the microwave. Uh, it’s still protein, but I need to set a time like sev. I don’t get enough in the day either. I’m telling you, like, uh, this morning I woke up and if I contracted my stomach as hard as I could, I could see a, a bunch of stomach muscles. And that’s after two days and not, and I’ve, that’s like unheard of for me. I’m a fat boy. Like, I’m like a, I’m like one of those like just if you look up, look up dad bod. That’s my bod. <laugh> just big, old, thick. What are those things called? Muffins on the side. But I think they’re gonna go Yeah,

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