#744 – WZA Individual Prediction show with Brian Friend and John Young

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Bam. We’re live. John, good to see you.

John Young (00:04):


Sevan Matossian (00:05):

You look the same since the last time I saw you. You didn’t even get any older.

John Young (00:09):

That’s a good thing, right?

Sevan Matossian (00:11):

I guess you should be maturing.

John Young (00:14):


Sevan Matossian (00:16):

Can you grow facial hair?

John Young (00:18):

I do grow facial hair. But you do. It doesn’t grow in like, Brian. So I shave every two weeks.

Sevan Matossian (00:26):

Uh, what’s the weather like? What, what are you guys doing for weather? There is Chicago getting destroyed?

Brian Friend (00:32):

No, it’s sunny and 30 degrees. It’s beautiful.

Sevan Matossian (00:34):

Wow. How about you? Where, where are you, John?

John Young (00:37):

I’m in, uh, Houston.

Sevan Matossian (00:39):

Oh, what are you doing there? I thought you lived in like Iowa or something.

John Young (00:43):

No, I moved to, uh, Katy, Texas. So it’s right by Houston

Sevan Matossian (00:47):

For work,

John Young (00:49):

Uh, for life.

Sevan Matossian (00:52):

Your wife made you move?

John Young (00:54):

Uh, yeah. She got her job here and so I followed her.

Sevan Matossian (00:57):

You like it?

John Young (00:58):

Yeah. I love it. It’s 70 degrees over here.

Sevan Matossian (01:01):

Didn’t you just buy a house where you, where you lived?

John Young (01:05):

No, we bought a house here.

Sevan Matossian (01:07):

Oh shit. Katie. Is that a good spot? Caleb? Where’s Katie? Texas.

Brian Friend (01:12):

It’s a good spot. I’ve been there.

Sevan Matossian (01:14):

You have what? What were you doing there?

Brian Friend (01:16):

I have friends that live near there. Rest of my best friends live in the Woodlands, which is in the same conference.

John Young (01:22):

It’s North Houston

Sevan Matossian (01:23):

Conference. You’re such a sports guy. No one refers to geographic areas as conferences. Conference. Same conference. Same conference. You’re a scientist. You’d been like, oh yes, I’ve been to that tectonic plate. Oh, okay. You live in Houston?

John Young (01:41):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Sevan Matossian (01:43):

Wow, that is South

John Young (01:46):

<laugh>. Yes, sir.

Sevan Matossian (01:46):

Well, I woke up this morning to an Amber alert. Those are usually like, Hey, uh, someone’s kid has been taken and they’re in a Honda Civic headed south on the one. But it wasn’t that this morning. It was, uh, Hey, don’t leave your house. Uh, it rained as shit load last night and there’s a flash flooding. They can’t be flash. I live on a hill. I live three miles up a hill from the beach, from the Pacific Ocean. There will be no flash flooding at my house.

Brian Friend (02:14):

I can’t believe that. They don’t know that about you. And, and so didn’t. And it’s just so irresponsible. They direct that message in your, in your

Sevan Matossian (02:21):

Life. Spreading, spreading fear. Just spreading fear. And my and my wife’s like, Hey, can we leave the house today? I’m like, of course we can leave the house today. Even my kids are like, Hey, are we gonna the beach today? I’m like, of course we’re gonna the beach today. No, uh, no Dick, uh, there is no tsunami. That’s, it has to be an earthquake for a tsunami. I feel like we should put the phone number up today in case anyone wants to jump in and, uh, in case, uh, in case, uh, Mr. Young or Brian says anything completely irresponsible.

Brian Friend (02:51):

I think you promised that, actually. So you better

Sevan Matossian (02:53):

Do it. Okay. Can we put the phone number up Mr. Beaver

Brian Friend (02:58):

Already? Maybe not yet. Maybe in like, give a couple

Sevan Matossian (03:02):

Minutes, Brian. Friend. Why were you not on the show with Jorge Hernandez this morning?

Brian Friend (03:09):

Because you pronounce, you still don’t know his name after talking to him for two

Sevan Matossian (03:12):

Hours. Sorry, take two. Brian

Brian Friend (03:14):


Sevan Matossian (03:18):

Brian, why were you not on the show with Jorge Fernandez? Did I call them Hernandez? God damn

Brian Friend (03:24):

It, <laugh>. I intended to be ended up having a, uh, production call basically for Waap Polooza that

Sevan Matossian (03:35):

I called. How was that?

Brian Friend (03:36):

This It was good. Hopefully.

Sevan Matossian (03:42):

So. Hey John, when you drink that, um, you should put your lips around the whole bottle. Like you should, you know what I mean? Just

Brian Friend (03:48):


John Young (03:50):

It’s more efficient.

Sevan Matossian (03:51):

Yeah, it’s totally more efficient. That’s, that’s the way all the cool kids are doing it. Um, I wanna ask you guys, uh, serious question here. Uh, little, a little off topic, but on topic, uh, this is, uh, we’ll start with an op-ed ship before we go into sort of, uh, the picks.

Brian Friend (04:09):

Those are also op-ed,

Sevan Matossian (04:10):

Right? Okay, good point. Um, I’m, I’m, I’m becoming irritated by the fact that there’s $75,000 on the line for the women’s and that the best competitor there is a 16th place finisher at the CrossFit games. 17th, outside 17th, uh, outside of Emily Rolfe who had to pull out of the games, who I do think has a, a good chance of winning this. I mean, she is a straight legit savage, but, uh, why, what the hell is going on? And, and I even want to throw this down to the masters and maybe I’m not, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe there are Masters women’s competing, but can’t the champ can’t the champ of the 35 to 39 year old division at the CrossFit Games, female, come over here and win this.

Brian Friend (04:52):

I’ve already talked about this a little. John, you on weigh

Sevan Matossian (04:54):

In. You

Brian Friend (04:55):

Have, and Amelia is competing in the team division Elite, not

Sevan Matossian (04:59):

As, and I, Amelia, I don’t, I don’t mean to pick on you Amelia, cuz I, because I don’t know you particularly as a complainer, but I feel like the masters are some whiny little bitches and they’re always complaining. There’s not enough competitions, there’s not enough money then come over and get this shit

Brian Friend (05:15):


Sevan Matossian (05:16):

Go ahead John.

John Young (05:17):

Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, I think Amelia would be very competitive in the individual for water polooza. I don’t think she would win, but she would be. Fourth

Sevan Matossian (05:28):

Place is 10 grand. John fourth place is 10 grand.

John Young (05:30):

Yeah. No, she’d make more money than she did at Masters, probably, right? What did they pay? Masters’s winner for 35? 39.

Brian Friend (05:37):

I think that’s up to maybe 15 or something

Sevan Matossian (05:40):

At the games. I mean, that’s grand. You could get new tires on my Sienna. You get new tires on my Sienna. Go ahead, John

John Young (05:45):

Bak. Yeah, I don’t, I don’t see why they don’t do it. It it frustrates me to it. It’s, it’s more frustrating because the men’s side is so stacked. If it was the same, it’d be like, this is what the competition is. But it’s like all the men have agreed that all the best guys are going to do it. And all the women agreed that none of them are going to, it’s, it’s odd. It that, and I, maybe Brian knows more, but like, is that not what it seems like? It’s very odd.

Sevan Matossian (06:10):

Okay, let’s pick on Emma McQuaid for a second. Didn’t she win this last year? She

Brian Friend (06:14):


Sevan Matossian (06:14):

Yeah. Why, why isn’t Emma coming here to, uh, defend her title and get her money? Maybe I’m stupid. Maybe Emma’s making $3 million a year from Noble and they’re just laughing like, this guy doesn’t know shit.

Brian Friend (06:25):

Well, that’s what we don’t know. And we’ve, and I’ve talked about this before. I mean, uh, and I know <laugh> in the disk golf world, for example, which I’ve often drawn parallels between CrossFit too, because the, especially on the financial realm, there’s not a ton of op there’s not a lot of money available in disc golf for winning competitions. But there’s becoming more and more opp opportunity for disc golfers at the top to make money through YouTube channels, sponsorships, endorsements, partnerships, brands, et cetera. And, but those are public, like the, I I’ve mentioned it before. Paul Macbeth last year is, uh, six time World Champion signed a $10 million 10 year contract with Disc Craft. One of the, the providers,

Sevan Matossian (07:04):

Are you kidding me?

Brian Friend (07:06):

No, I’ve never seen anything that says Matt Frazier signed a contract with Nike for X money. I have no idea what Matt Frazier or Tia Clai or Justin Maderas or Katherine Davis or Annie Thor’s daughter makes with any one of their sponsors anywhere. So that is information that we don’t have. I know there are people that I know who have that information, but I don’t have that information and so I can’t really assess their financial decision making based on that. What I also know about this golf is those guys are still showing up and competing there, and I think that part of their contracts say that you have to show up and compete a certain amount of times. We’re paying for you to be out there throwing our discs so that other people wanna throw our discs. And if you’re noble tier, whomever that’s sponsoring these athletes, hand grip companies, belt companies, whatever, you could have some exposure at the, just at the Instagram social media level.


I’m lifting with my pixel belt, I’m doing my bare complex scripts and you can have these posts, whatever. But going out there and putting the product on display at a competition, I would think would be part of the deal. So maybe they’ve already met the prereq prerequisite for the number of times they have to compete in a year, and then that’s not a factor either, but I just can’t, I mean, and so all of these people are competing this weekend. Emma McQuaid is competing on a team of three Amelia Lein who won the masters division and qualified for the games the year before is competing on a team. But even if you win the team competition, it’s 30, it’s $30,000 for first place that’s split three ways is 10 grand. Assuming that you’re not giving any of that money to anyone else, maybe a, you know, I don’t know how those things work, coaches, sponsors, whatever. Uh, so I, if you win first, then your share of that is equivalent to taking forth in the individual division. And I think it’s way harder to win the team competition than it is to take forth in the individual for the women.

Sevan Matossian (08:53):

And I, I don’t wanna take anything away from Waap Polooza, by the way, this, this is going to be without a doubt, no questions asked. The greatest team event in the history of the sport sport’s been around, I don’t know, let’s say since 2000, uh, seven when the first CrossFit games were 2020 2 15, 16 years in this, this is, this may actually finally put teams on the map. This is going to be amazing. I give Waap Polo a lot of credit for it, for seducing those guys down there. But also the way they organized it by making it days three and four. And then also by making it, um, uh, you know, same-sex teams, teams of three, everything that they’ve done has made and, and, and the media that coverage that they’re gonna get on the event. Everything has ma they, they take a lot of credit for making this the Premier team event and the history of the sport. Uh, agree or disagree, uh, Mr. Young.

John Young (09:41):

Oh, I agree completely. And the way they set it up, like the games can’t do this like this, is we get to see truly the fittest in the world on a team. And that, and the teams go together that, and they’re all the fittest people in the world. It’s not just, um, rich who could compete an individual and then everybody else, which is what the games is kind in in a way. I know Annie had a team together this year, but usually there’s two teams that are competitive and then it’s just kind of everybody who couldn’t make the games. I know that sounds bad.

Sevan Matossian (10:14):

The games team event is just basically, we’ve just viewed it for the last 10 years is where you go to test Rich out. Yeah. There’s Rich and then the guys who are testing his fitness.

John Young (10:22):

Yeah, exactly. And like, this is the first time, I mean, we get to see Jeff Adler Bikowski and Patrick Vellner against Noah Chandler and, uh, Travis like, it, it’s really, it’s gonna, and we see that on the women’s side too. Um, Laura, Jamie and Gabby are on a team, right? Like, just to see them go against freaking Katherine, Annie and Mal, that’s gonna be awesome. But I do think like they’re missing, I think Laura and Mal and Haley are like missing a huge opportunity to, like if they, if any of them did individual in one, it kind of like puts a stamp on this is gonna be my year. And like you could make so much money just off of Instagram off of winning Guap Polooza because TIA is out. You could make a stamp on individual, any of those girls if they were to do it, if, if they ran away with it and won it. And none of them are taking that.

Brian Friend (11:16):

I just noticed this, this comment from Barbell’s spin here about the order of operations. So, and that the teams are going second. So that would be kind of the premier competition for the weekend. We, we spoke with Vener yesterday and he explained that, you know, he communicated to them, I won’t do the individual competition if I have to do the team first, but if I do the individual first, I’ll be willing to do the team. And I think a lot of ath athletes had that sentiment. So that may have been one of the deciding factors. It is noteworthy that it’s, it is being billed as the premier competition. I think there is more excitement in general for the teams and the individuals as a whole, but the prize money is still significantly less. If you win it there, you’re taking 10 grand to piece as opposed to taking 75 grand if you win that. So I’ll be curious to see if they roll this format back next year if they also have a, a shift in the allocation of the prize one.

Sevan Matossian (12:04):

Um, but Brian, oh wow. I didn’t even think of that. Sorry, go ahead John.

John Young (12:08):

Do you think though, like for this year, it’s kind of a trial run and if it’s super successful, that would make money in the long term. So the second, the second time around, they could have 60,000 verse 30,000 and then continue to feed the chain. Cuz everybody wants to see the best go at it, um, the first time around. There’s just not enough money to make it, you know what I mean? This is, um,

Sevan Matossian (12:31):

I think that’s what Brian’s saying. Like if this is successful, they might take away some of the money from the individual next year. No,

John Young (12:36):

I’m saying just more money in total.

Sevan Matossian (12:37):

Oh, well more money’s always the problem, right? These, these guys are already on the team paying $430 a pop, uh, to, uh, register 430 bucks a pop. I I I’m not against that by the way. That’s

Brian Friend (12:49):

Per individual. So that’s over 1200 per team. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (12:52):

I I i i I don’t think that’s, I don’t think that’s too much though. Don’t get me, don’t get me wrong. I’m not, I’m not, uh, slamming it. But it is real money and it means you have to be serious if you’re serious. It’s for serious competition. But you do get to compete, like with what you said, um, you get to go against fk, Kowski, Vener and Adler. This, this could be just like a once in a lifetime chance for people. So, and, and as and as the viewers, you’re crazy if you don’t watch this sit down and, uh, and watch the, uh, teams all week. It is gonna be, God, I hope the cover

John Young (13:24):

Is good, should be deciding us individual.

Sevan Matossian (13:26):


Brian Friend (13:27):

And yet this

Sevan Matossian (13:27):

Is, and I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you when you say that. I cannot believe I’m agreeing with you.

Brian Friend (13:32):

Should we get to the individuals then?

Sevan Matossian (13:34):

Oh, hold on. But I, yeah, yeah, yeah. We, let’s get to the drill. I do wanna say this though, for those of us who have accidentally or purposely become diehard fans of the games, I I wanna say that. Um, and these are guys, we’ll, we’ll talk about, I’ll, I’ll pry into, uh, John and Brian, but these are the people when I see Sarah Sigmund’s daughter, Olivia krs, that are Emma Carey, Sidney Wells, Britney Weiss, and, uh, uh, Amy Kringle and Amy Kringle, just because I want to have someone on from the Is Man because that, that’s like the ultimate, uh, clickthrough rate for YouTube. If you, if you get people to watch your YouTube channel from the Is Man, you make the most money outta anywhere on the planet. But Britney Weiss, uh, those Britney Weiss, Sydnee Wells, Emma Carey, Olivia Kor, and Sarah Sigmans daughter, I am so curious. This is gonna be extremely telling from me as a fan. Where

Brian Friend (14:19):

Are you getting that list from?

Sevan Matossian (14:20):

I made it up.

Brian Friend (14:21):

Oh, you, you, you didn’t even mention Amol. You’re like the morning Chaka.

Sevan Matossian (14:25):

Oh. Oh, that hurt.

Brian Friend (14:27):

I thought you might have gotten your info from them.

Sevan Matossian (14:29):

That hurt. That hurt. Uh, good. We’ll, we’ll start with Emol and then on the men’s side, I’m very curious about these guys. Uh, Fabian Bonito, um, and Nate Ackerman. Uh, Luke Parker, Saxon Panik, Vener and Falkowski.

Brian Friend (14:44):

I’ve Sack’s not competing.

Sevan Matossian (14:45):

He’s not.

Brian Friend (14:46):

No. Well,

Sevan Matossian (14:47):


John Young (14:48):

You get that from, um,

Sevan Matossian (14:48):

Problem, uh, morning Chalkup. And then, and then, and then, and then this. Um, and then for the, uh, and then I have some questions. Where the fuck is Ellie Turner, Andre Juday and Jack Farlow.

Brian Friend (14:58):

So <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (14:59):

Okay, where the fuck are they? For fucking fair. I am a fan of the sport and I wanna see you guys compete at Guap Polooza individual.

Brian Friend (15:05):

I should say this, to be fair, even the rankings that I am not put out yesterday, the predictions I put out yesterday are also inaccurate. There’s just in terms of the list of athletes on there, there’s someone that’s listed that’s not on there. The rosters are constantly changing and it’s very difficult to keep up on. All of us are trying to do our best. So

Sevan Matossian (15:22):

I like, I like that. I like that. Let’s talk about these three people though really quick. Um, that aren’t competing that I want there may make me happy. Why, why not? Ellie Turner, she can come there and get that money.

Brian Friend (15:33):

I think this would’ve been a great, a great opportunity for Ellie. I don’t have a good answer for

Sevan Matossian (15:36):

That. Okay. Uh, Juday

Brian Friend (15:39):

Juday. I do know some stuff about not at Liberty to say.

Sevan Matossian (15:43):

Okay. And, uh, Jack Farlow, he’s too busy. He’s like folding Emma Lawson’s clothes right now. He’s packing her bag for the games right now.

Brian Friend (15:51):

No, Jack had an incredible opportunity to compete at Rogue. He, I think he knows that he’s within that, like, touching distance of potentially being in contention for a game spot and to maximize his opportunity at semi-finals. No competitions between Rogue and semi-finals make sense for him?

John Young (16:09):

Okay. So do you think Olivia’s just taking the opposite route then? Cuz I would put her in the same category.

Brian Friend (16:14):

Curse stutter.

John Young (16:15):


Brian Friend (16:16):

Uh, yeah. I think she’s in is is choosing to compete. I mean, she’s, she’s in a different category than Jack because she always has an out to compete in a teenage division,

John Young (16:26):

But she, she’s not.

Brian Friend (16:28):

I know, but if she doesn’t make it in at the individual, she has that as a ba uh, fallback. Jack doesn’t,

Sevan Matossian (16:36):

Uh, Jack, uh, Jack, uh, uh, uh, here we go. Jack Farlow doesn’t, qual didn’t, doesn’t, didn’t, doesn’t, didn’t, doesn’t qualify and didn’t do Qualifier path. I don’t care. He should have done it. <laugh>. I want to see him compete. I want to get on the Jack Farlow train.

Brian Friend (16:52):

Oh my God.

Sevan Matossian (16:54):

And I wanna see Ellie Turner. I want, oh, I’m, I’m so curious how that’s coming. Uh, with, uh, Justin, what the hell’s going on over there? Is she getting better? Okay.

John Young (17:04):

They kept calling him Jack Harlow. Um, for like the first three days. It’s took. The last day they said Jack Farlow the announcers,

Sevan Matossian (17:12):

Um, at the games

John Young (17:13):

At Rogue, at the Rogue Invitational. They said Jack Harlow for three straight days and then they finally fixed it. It was hilarious. Uh, you said Fernandez Hernandez. So it made me think of that.

Sevan Matossian (17:25):

Fair. Fair. I’ll give him a pass. Only cuz I screwed up. Uh, one of Olivia’s weaknesses Elite, uh, comp, uh, experience. Uh, could

Brian Friend (17:34):

Say the same for, for Farlow as well, though

Sevan Matossian (17:37):

A Vesh Maharaj the Hammer as he’s known amongst his friends. Um, Savon, what’s it gonna take to get you to the games this year? Fucking a G five and a Suite at the Four Seasons. And I’m McLaren and a handy. Okay. Uh, 70, 75. I’m, I’m from the se I was born in 1972. Uh, $75,000 for first place. $35,000 for second place. $25,000 for third place. $10,000 for fourth place. Um, shall we start with, oh, by the way, and a lot of this information, I wanna thank, uh, Jason at CF Media and Dex and Lauren at, uh, the Morning Chalkup. Um, I watched a bunch of their content yesterday to get up to speed. Uh, do we, how, how do you wanna do this? You wanna start with the women or the men?

Brian Friend (18:24):

Uh, yeah. One or the other, but before, um, let’s do the men first.

Sevan Matossian (18:28):

Okay. Before

Brian Friend (18:29):

And before that just,

Sevan Matossian (18:30):

Oh, wait, one more. Second one. Sorry. One more thing. One more thing. Sorry. Sorry. Uh, Colton Merton’s, not, not at the, uh, I

Brian Friend (18:35):

Was about to address that. Okay. There’s several athletes that, uh, people have been inquiring about that look like they were gonna be competing that are not on the men’s side. They are Colton Merton’s, Cole Sager, Enrico Zoni, yogos Kevis, and Austin Spencer. So none of those guys are competing. Uh, Austin was included on my list. He’s not gonna be there on the other floor. I’d already known weren’t gonna be there.

Sevan Matossian (18:57):

And, uh, and, and, and do we have any, uh, update on, uh, the most important on the list? Uh, Mr. Colton Merton’s?

Brian Friend (19:05):

Uh, no, I haven’t really inquired too much as to why, unless I was told specifically why.

Sevan Matossian (19:09):

Okay. We’ll have to, uh, reach out to him. Hello, Gabe. Paper Streete Coffee. Go over to Paper Street Coffee. Don’t spell out Street. P A p E r S t C O F f E E. Use code SevOne Get 15% off. The more money you spend over there, the more I can twist his arm and get sponsorship.

John Young (19:28):

Hey, SevOne, do you think you can get, uh, Colton to livestream doing the squats and rings workout simultaneously while they’re doing it at Waap Polooza?

Sevan Matossian (19:37):

I do.

John Young (19:38):

Because I think he would win that workout if he did it.

Sevan Matossian (19:41):

Is that true, Brian?

Brian Friend (19:43):

I don’t think he would win it.

Sevan Matossian (19:45):


John Young (19:45):

It’d be a fun show.

Sevan Matossian (19:48):

Uh, did you say? Oh, uh, and, uh, who another, uh, interesting character we have, uh, is is Rebecca Fuss competing individual?

Brian Friend (19:56):

She is,

Sevan Matossian (19:56):

Yeah. So excited to see her. Uh, for those of you don’t know, remember who Rebecca Fusi is? She was on the show, uh, amazing guest and she was the, uh, last finisher at the Capitol event at the 2022 CrossFit Games where a lot of those iconic pictures that will probably last forever where the entire crowd has swarmed her. Um, like the Tour de France style. And, uh, she’s, she’s just warring and she’s a tiny little girl. So she’s gonna be out there with the big girls. Any chance she’ll be in the top 10 individual?

Brian Friend (20:30):

We’ll see. We’ll get to that.

Sevan Matossian (20:31):

Okay. All right. Uh, she’s from Texas. Okay. Um, maybe, maybe like a people’s champ. Rebecca could be like a people’s champ, right? Even if she never wins the games, as long as she keeps going to the games, she could really develop quite a huge fan base.

John Young (20:48):

Who would you say the People’s Champ is now? Aire.

Brian Friend (20:53):


John Young (20:54):

Martins is there on, is there one for the women’s though?

Brian Friend (20:57):

He’s thinking hard.

Sevan Matossian (20:59):

I don’t know. I mean, no, no one’s taken that sort of Dan Bailey, Josh Bridges, um, you know, Noah kind of was that, but then he kind of, he got, he got too big. You know what I mean? Kind.

John Young (21:10):

I’m, I’m just thinking on the women’s side though. Like,

Sevan Matossian (21:13):

I feel like you gotta be a little small. Yeah. Olson, I, yeah, I think Olsen got too big. I think that like to be a people’s champ, that like one of the character is, is like when people find you and start liking you, you’re still a little, you’re small time still. Like more like a Colton

John Young (21:25):


Brian Friend (21:26):

Like Nick Matthew.

John Young (21:28):

Nick Matthew.

Sevan Matossian (21:29):

Yeah. I guess in Nick Matthew not my favorite pick, but Yeah. But

Brian Friend (21:32):

More like that, that caliber instead of a Noah Olson who’s got a podium finish at the games.

Sevan Matossian (21:36):

Yeah. I think the L G B T crowd could rally be Ariel Matthew, Ariel Lowen. Yes. Ariel alone is more uh, uh, um, uh, niche.

John Young (21:45):

This top 10 though.

Sevan Matossian (21:46):

Niche cuz she got the Mama Christian thing going. She’s like Travis, they’re more niche. Travis Mayor. More niche. I was gonna say fetish, but that was different. Different podcast.

Brian Friend (21:56):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Sevan Matossian (21:58):

Oh yeah. You know, Sarah, that, that’s an interesting, then you have these weird outliers like Sarah who has an enormous following. But basically we, we were starting to view her as a a a, a horse with a broken leg and we just wanna see across the finish line. And, and that’s kind of what the people’s champ is. It’s kinda like,

John Young (22:14):

It’s terrible how accurate that is.

Sevan Matossian (22:16):

You, you, that is dude, that is one of the characteristics of the, the people’s champ. You don’t really care where they place, you just want them to finish. And so that is the, you want them to qualify and then just finish. Uh, Cody Anderson could have been one.

Brian Friend (22:30):

Danny Spiegel.

Sevan Matossian (22:31):

Danny Spiegel, but once again more for a niche crowd. She’s not like the full blown.

Brian Friend (22:35):

But if I think about being live at a competition, then if they’re doing individual athlete announcements and the like, Sarah and Danny get, uh, bigger cheers than almost anyone. I mean Sarah gets his biggest cheers.

John Young (22:46):

Literally. I mean 2015 through 2018. Sarah I think had the biggest fan base out of all, all of the girls even longer

Brian Friend (22:53):

Than that. Even at the Sanctional when she would go to ’em. I mean it was insane. Uh, you know, they’d announce her and it was louder than, than Tia even.

Sevan Matossian (23:01):

And I, I heard it was like that at the games with Danielle Brandon. But once again, she probably is leaving sort of the people’s champ since she took forth at the game. She’s sort of leaving that, that people ship this a little bit of a a a a a pity party for the people’s champ. It’s like, you know, they can’t win. So everyone rallies behind him. Like, like, like, like a, a Mugsy Bogues or a Spud web. Like a guy who’s in the NBA who’s five four. Like he got some, he got some court time and you’re excited. Or like that Asian guy, Lynn. Do you remember him?

John Young (23:27):

Jeremy Lynn? Yeah. What sanity.

Sevan Matossian (23:29):

Yeah, it’s like a look. There’s an Asian guy on the court.

John Young (23:32):

Those are impressive callbacks. Have

Sevan Matossian (23:34):

On. Thank you.

John Young (23:35):

You a basketball fan?

Sevan Matossian (23:36):


Brian Friend (23:37):

He’s a sports guy.

Sevan Matossian (23:39):


Brian Friend (23:41):

He speaks in conferences and districts instead of tectonic plates.

Sevan Matossian (23:44):

Yeah. Where do you live, Savan? I live in the Western conference. <laugh>. Okay. Uh, waap Alza individual is happening on Thursday and Friday. Uh, stay here for all, uh, your coverage. We will be digging in. We’ll have cameras, um, uh, roaming around. Uh, make sure you visit the vindicate booth and the Paper Street coffee booth. Uh, John Young, you will not be there, right?

John Young (24:08):

I will not. No.

Sevan Matossian (24:10):

Uh, so hopefully John Young will, uh, make some special guest appearances on this show. Brian Friend will be on the ground there along with Matt Suza and we turn to the women. Is that what sex we’re doing first?

Brian Friend (24:23):


Sevan Matossian (24:23):

You want women. It is. Uh, should we start it, uh, at the bottom of the list and work our way up?

Brian Friend (24:28):

Nah, I think first time’s sake, we probably can just, well, yeah, sure.

Sevan Matossian (24:34):

Okay, let’s do it. We’ll, we’ll ra we’ll race up.

Brian Friend (24:36):


Sevan Matossian (24:37):

Uh, David Weed. Danielle, Brandon is never gonna win anything unless she won my heart. So that’s something won my heart. And, and a and about a pair of tow spacers.

John Young (24:48):

Now before we get going, Brian does know the events and I don’t know the events, so there’s a little bit of a caveat there.

Sevan Matossian (24:57):

Have the events not been announced?

Brian Friend (24:59):


John Young (25:00):

Uh some of them

Brian Friend (25:01):

Have. Some of them have.

Sevan Matossian (25:02):

I I also wanna mention this. I’m probably gonna say this wrong. Brian will correct me. Um, there will be cuts after the fifth event and there are eight events total. So that’s something to keep in mind that if, um, if

Brian Friend (25:15):

No you, you, me,

Sevan Matossian (25:16):

Uh, not I fucked that all up. I blame Lauren. Bring Lauren from the morning chalk up.

Brian Friend (25:22):

Okay. Okay. Well, I mean, I don’t know how else to say this. There’s a lot of inaccurate information that’s being put out there. Um, the way that you just said that is very confusing and I don’t, you’re putting me in a difficult situation, but that how you said it is not accurate.

Sevan Matossian (25:37):

Okay? But you can’t reveal more or else you’ll have your media credential. You get slapped, but you got fired at the games that one year for pointing your camera at the Masters.

Brian Friend (25:45):

Also your fault,

Sevan Matossian (25:46):

<laugh> Fair, fair.

Brian Friend (25:52):

Uh, there will be cuts before the last time the athletes take the competition floor and they’re taking the competition floor six times. But there are eight events.

John Young (26:03):

That means the last event is going to be a two event thing

Sevan Matossian (26:07):

Or three

Brian Friend (26:10):

Doesn’t necessarily mean either of those things,

John Young (26:13):

But that, that’s what it is.

Sevan Matossian (26:15):

Uh, too harsh. Judy? Too harsh. Too harsh. Too harsh. Not like cnn, uh, Patrick Clark. Uh, he will be probably, uh, hand in hand. He’ll be the guy holding hands with uh, Brian at the event. No,

Brian Friend (26:28):

He won’t be able to ever find us in the same place cuz we’ll be dividing and conquering someone

Sevan Matossian (26:33):

A lot of inaccuracies. Patrick a agrees with you. How, how often do you talk to Patrick Clark on the phone?

Brian Friend (26:39):

More than you.

Sevan Matossian (26:40):

All right. More than you talk to him more than me or you talk or you talk to him more than I talk to him.

Brian Friend (26:46):

<laugh>. I don’t think you ever talk to him. I talk to him more often than I talk to you.

Sevan Matossian (26:49):


Brian Friend (26:50):

But he is not in my favorites like you

Sevan Matossian (26:52):

Are. Good. Good. I asked Brian to put me in his favorites cuz it always goes to voice message. If you’re not <laugh>, uh, don’t get Brian into trouble, we need him. Okay, fine. Um, Heidi will also be there working, uh, with the Sev podcast. Thank you. Uh, okay, so the women’s competition, 38 competitors. Did I see

Brian Friend (27:16):

That’s currently? I believe that’s the correct number. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (27:19):

Could people still get in? Every time I say Ellie should be there. Someone’s like, but she didn’t qualify. But Waap Alza has the right to just invite her, right? Or if she’s there and she

Brian Friend (27:27):

Just, Ellie Turner.

Sevan Matossian (27:28):


Brian Friend (27:29):

I, my understanding is that she could just show up on, uh, Wednesday and say I want to compete. And they’d give her a spot

Sevan Matossian (27:36):

Because of her

Brian Friend (27:37):

Placement at, at the games. They’ve done that in the past and yes. If you, if you were competing or if you qualified for the 2022 CrossFit games and you get a direct invite to Waap Alza,

Sevan Matossian (27:50):

I if you qualified for the games.

Brian Friend (27:52):

Yeah. Any of the women that qualified for the games have an invite, a standing invite to Waap Alza. I mentioned it before in 2018, the day before the competition began, Katherine Davis’s daughter told Waap Alza she wanted to compete. They announced her that night is competing. She showed up and competed and won the competition.

John Young (28:10):

That’s an easy payday for Ellie then. She should do that.

Sevan Matossian (28:13):

What a badass. Good job catching. Uh, Savon is so jealous of Patrick. We’ll, uh, talk to me offline about that. I need some, I need some counseling. Okay. Ba sorry Caleb. I know, uh, we’re all over the place. It’s Brian’s fault. Uh, okay. Uh, 38, 37, 36. I can’t say their names and I don’t know who they are.

Brian Friend (28:37):

One of ’em, uh, Lucia came through the qualifier. The other two came through a different qualifier. Fernanda was the winner of the Argentina Throwdown, which is a direct qualifier if you win that to Waap. Alza and Stanza won the Fit Land competition. Credit to Mike Halpin for a lot of the information I’ll be sharing

Sevan Matossian (28:56):

Today. Um, how many events are there, um, that are qualifiers for Waap Alza?

Brian Friend (29:02):

That is a difficult question to answer, but Zelos Games online Winner. Madrid Championship Winner Fit Land Black Challenge, Argentina, Throwdown are, those are definitely five.

John Young (29:18):

Does Dubai count?

Brian Friend (29:21):

Don’t think so, actually. I know it does not.

Sevan Matossian (29:25):

So that’s pretty cool. That’s a lot of collaboration between the events cuz they’re not necessarily affiliated with these events at all. Right?

Brian Friend (29:32):

No, I think that this is a, a majority of those. So Madrid’s obviously in Europe and it’s, uh, loud and Live has an affiliation with them. A lot of the other ones are South America, central America, which is, uh, part of the world that I know Lot and live in general and lot of live sport also are trying to be, to help, you know, build up as part of their like, uh, in, within the fitness world.

Sevan Matossian (29:53):

I’m going to suggest that the where, where’s that Black Challenge event? Where’s that out of?

Brian Friend (29:59):


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