#743 – Jorge Fernandez | Wodapalooza 2023 Team Champs?

Sevan Matossian (00:04):

Bam. We’re live.

Jorge Fernandez (00:05):


Sevan Matossian (00:06):

Alright. What’s up

Jorge Fernandez (00:07):

Dude? How’s it going?

Sevan Matossian (00:10):

I tried something new this morning and it didn’t work.

Jorge Fernandez (00:13):

What was that?

Sevan Matossian (00:14):

But it’s okay. As long as I tried, I tried to, I went live before I put our faces on there, and then I thought I could run my mouse back over and get us on the screen quickly.

Jorge Fernandez (00:23):

No, I didn’t,

Sevan Matossian (00:25):

But I was unable to, but I was unable to. People saw black for a second.

Jorge Fernandez (00:30):

Well, it’s working now, so,

Sevan Matossian (00:32):

Hey, are you on a computer?

Jorge Fernandez (00:33):

I’m on a iPad.

Sevan Matossian (00:35):

Oh, okay. Um, do you think you could turn it, um, the other way?

Jorge Fernandez (00:40):

This way?

Sevan Matossian (00:41):

Yeah. How’s that? Better?

Jorge Fernandez (00:43):

Yeah, I can do it. The only thing is, is I’ll have to look at the, yeah, let me the camera and not you guys. So

Sevan Matossian (00:52):

If you prefer to Yeah. Oh yeah. That does look way better.

Jorge Fernandez (00:55):

All right, let’s do that. Let’s do,

Sevan Matossian (00:57):

Are you already at the gym?

Jorge Fernandez (00:58):

Yeah, I’m here. I just got here about 30 minutes ago.

Sevan Matossian (01:01):

Can you see the comments?

Jorge Fernandez (01:03):

Mm, lemme

Sevan Matossian (01:05):

See. Probably not. I think you,

Jorge Fernandez (01:06):


Sevan Matossian (01:07):

Okay. It’s okay. They don’t say anything important. They’re only, they’re, they’re only 51% of the show. The other 49% are me and Caleb

Jorge Fernandez (01:17):

<laugh>. Well just let you know what they say and I I’ll help out. I

Sevan Matossian (01:20):

Can. Okay. Uh, uh, this guy says good morning.

Jorge Fernandez (01:23):

Oh, actually I could see, or is that, was that you that clicked it? I could see it now.

Sevan Matossian (01:27):

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I put it up on the

Jorge Fernandez (01:28):

Screen. Oh, okay.

Sevan Matossian (01:30):

Good morning, everybody. Uh, you guys know I’m joking. You guys are definitely a very valuable part of the show. Oh, I guess I said you were 51%. That’s important. That’s important. Uh, I met you at the ranch.

Jorge Fernandez (01:44):


Sevan Matossian (01:45):

It was love at first sight, man. You’re a cool dude. You, and, uh, you were there with Devon Kim?

Jorge Fernandez (01:50):

Yes. Devon

Sevan Matossian (01:51):

Kim. Was anyone else with you guys? No. Just the two of you. Right?

Jorge Fernandez (01:53):

Yeah. And Allie Weiss.

Sevan Matossian (01:56):

Is that different than Britney Weiss?

Jorge Fernandez (01:57):

Yeah, that’s her younger sister.

Sevan Matossian (01:59):

Oh, okay. Britney’s the girl who’s on your team.

Jorge Fernandez (02:01):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (02:02):

Oh, okay, okay, okay. That’s right. I remember there being a third girl. That was, that was cool. Running into you guys there. It’s always exciting for me to go to the ranch and then, um, uh, to see Dave and then to see that event, the gun show that was going on there. The gun event. Yeah,

Jorge Fernandez (02:18):

Yeah, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (02:18):

And then, uh, to meet you. And then, uh, it was kind of like, I don’t know Devin, but I know Devin, you know, like we’ve probably been to at 10 events together. And she was just a little girl. Well, she was never little. Yeah. Yeah. She was always taller than me, <laugh>, but it was kind of crazy. And I, when I saw her there and she was so warm to me, I, I wasn’t able to piece together who she was until like, I think I got home. I was like, holy shit. That’s the, that’s the little girl who had come to events that her mom and dad would work at. I was like, holy crap.

Jorge Fernandez (02:47):


Sevan Matossian (02:49):

Uh, uh, congratulations on an amazing team and congratulations for basically being in love with your team. I, I, I watched, uh, two or three of your, uh, interviews yesterday and I can totally tell that you’re just like ecstatic to be with that Posse.

Jorge Fernandez (03:01):

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely am. Uh, it’s a good squad.

Sevan Matossian (03:05):

And that, uh, what’s the other guy’s name? Chama. Chama.

Jorge Fernandez (03:09):

Josh. Shama.

Sevan Matossian (03:10):

O Shama. What, what do you guys call him? Do you call him O Shama?

Jorge Fernandez (03:14):

He, yeah. Oh, we just call him Josh, but, um,

Sevan Matossian (03:17):

Oh, you do? Okay.

Jorge Fernandez (03:18):

Yeah. Al Shama

Sevan Matossian (03:21):

Al al sh say his last name for me again.

Jorge Fernandez (03:23):

I hope he doesn’t get mad at me. I think it’s Al Shama

Sevan Matossian (03:27):

Als Shama.

Jorge Fernandez (03:27):

He’s, I’m about to get a text right now, probably. He is looking at the, or he’s listening to this, so,

Sevan Matossian (03:32):

So I didn’t have any, it, it’s amazing what a little video will do. I didn’t have any like, interest in him at all. It’s just like, oh, just some random team, dude, whatever. And then I saw him in your vlog and I’m like, wow, this is a cool dude.

Jorge Fernandez (03:43):

Yeah. Yeah. He’s, he’s pretty cool. Um,

Sevan Matossian (03:46):

He’s English,

Jorge Fernandez (03:47):

Yes, yes, yes. From England. Um, it’s actually a really cool story. When I fir when I started here, um, I was supposed to be on a team with

Sevan Matossian (03:54):

Him here, here being, uh, Invictus in San Diego. Yeah.

Jorge Fernandez (03:57):

Yeah. Invictus. Um, and I was supposed to be on a team with him for the West Coast semi-final before the pandemic. Okay. Um, and I just saw him through Instagram and stuff. And, um, yeah, I was supposed to be on a team with him, and then it kind of all fell through. And then full circle we’re on team and we make the games and stuff together. So it was, there’s obviously way more to the story, but yeah, I just saw him through Instagram. I was supposed to be on his team, and then we never ended up being on the team.

Sevan Matossian (04:26):

When you started at Invictus, was that dude there was, uh, Al Shama there?

Jorge Fernandez (04:30):

No, but he was, he, so he used to follow, uh, the Invictus programming. Um, Tino used to program for him and stuff, and then he kind of just stayed in LA and then, um, yeah, that’s all we just kind of met through Instagram.

Sevan Matossian (04:43):

When did he, do you know his story? When did he come from the uk?

Jorge Fernandez (04:47):

Um, he’d be a little bit or better to ask, but he came, I wanna say four or five years ago.

Sevan Matossian (04:58):

And did he come because of CrossFit

Jorge Fernandez (05:02):


Sevan Matossian (05:02):

He wanted to be an actor. He wanted to be an actor.

Jorge Fernandez (05:04):

He wanted to

Sevan Matossian (05:05):

<laugh>. Did he?

Jorge Fernandez (05:06):

No, no, no. Uhoh. He just came and I guess just to start a new life here in America and stuff, and then found CrossFit and Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (05:14):

Wow. Crazy story. I, I, I, I wanted Brian to be on here this morning, cuz we were talking, um, a couple days ago. And, uh, we had, uh, Paige Powers on.

Jorge Fernandez (05:25):

Oh, cool. Nice.

Sevan Matossian (05:26):

And she basically went from finding CrossFit to one year later being, uh, on a team. Yeah, no, no, uh, no, sorry, a teen athlete. She, she, she took, I don’t know her first, she was, did CrossFit for a year and then was on the podium, or no, maybe fourth place as a teen at the CrossFit games. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And Brian said something like, yeah, that’s pretty fast. But obviously it’s the teens and, uh, I don’t think that ascent could happen an individual, but you’re ascent in CrossFit is pretty darn crazy. Mm-hmm.

Jorge Fernandez (05:58):


Sevan Matossian (05:59):

Yeah. I found it in 2019.

Jorge Fernandez (06:01):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative> 2019. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (06:04):

Yeah. I’ve already been to the games twice.

Jorge Fernandez (06:06):

It was funny, I was watching videos. I was, I went Totino’s house the other day just to watch the Jaguars play. And I was watching videos of the first open. I did the 20 19 1. It’s pretty, pretty bad. Like, I couldn’t even do toast to bar. It was pretty crazy. Yeah. 2019.

Sevan Matossian (06:23):

So, so 2019, you find CrossFit 2021, you, uh, take 17th on the Invictus team at the CrossFit games.

Jorge Fernandez (06:32):

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (06:33):

And then last year you make it on the podium. Mm-hmm.

Jorge Fernandez (06:36):


Sevan Matossian (06:37):

Yeah, dude, it’s nuts.

Jorge Fernandez (06:40):

Yeah, it’s, I mean, it’s, it’s been a lot of hard work, but yeah, it’s, the, the progression has been really, really fast.

Sevan Matossian (06:47):

Um, where were you born?

Jorge Fernandez (06:48):

Uh, Del Rio, Texas. So small border town, um, west of San Antonio, two and a half hours.

Sevan Matossian (06:55):

And you’re Mexican?

Jorge Fernandez (06:57):

Yes. My mother is from Mexico. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (07:00):

And you, do you speak Spanish?

Jorge Fernandez (07:02):

I do, yeah. Fluent

Sevan Matossian (07:04):

First language.

Jorge Fernandez (07:05):

Yeah, actually first language. Yeah. I learned that through my mother and I’ll, I’ll, uh, like anytime I call her, she’ll speak to me in Spanish and stuff. So I always, it’s always fresh in my mind.

Sevan Matossian (07:16):

God. That’s cool. And, uh, did you learn English simultaneously or you learned English afterwards?

Jorge Fernandez (07:22):

Uh, afterwards. Uh, but it was when I was really young, so I knew both languages since I was a kid. So I was, yeah, I’ve always known both and yep, that’s Del Rio right there.

Sevan Matossian (07:33):

And your mom, you said your mom was born in Mexico, so on her side, your first generation.

Jorge Fernandez (07:38):

Yes, exactly. And so that’s the [inaudible]. That’s where my mom’s from right across the border. So when I go back home, like I’ll spend time on both sides, um, have some family members on there in, in Akua, Mexico.

Sevan Matossian (07:53):

And your dad was a border patrol agent?

Jorge Fernandez (07:55):

No, no. My dad just

Sevan Matossian (07:57):

Worked. That’s a joke. That’s a joke.

Jorge Fernandez (07:59):

<laugh>. And he picked my mom up and they came. Yes, yes. Um, no, he, uh, worked like manufacturing, uh, companies and stuff, so,

Sevan Matossian (08:08):

And, and what’s his ethnicity?

Jorge Fernandez (08:11):

Was that He’s Hispanic,

Sevan Matossian (08:14):

But, but Daton, but not Mexican?

Jorge Fernandez (08:15):

No, not Mexican.

Sevan Matossian (08:18):

Another, uh, native people Who was raped by the Europeans who happened to meet your mom?

Jorge Fernandez (08:23):

Well, actually my father is Mexican. Part of my, uh, grandparents 50 Spanish, 50% Spanish Mexican. So I’m a mixture of kind of everything.

Sevan Matossian (08:33):

And, and how did your mom get here?

Jorge Fernandez (08:36):

Um, she just, you know, met my father, I guess, in a manufacturing company, and then they kind of talked and then he kind of brought her over and then ended up doing the whole, uh, deal with like, the visa and all that. And then she ended up staying, I actually,

Sevan Matossian (08:51):

Actually, what a great story.

Jorge Fernandez (08:52):

Yeah, I actually lived in Mexico, um, at my grandparents’ house for a while, uh, when I was a kid. So it was, it was really cool, like, just experiencing both, both sides. Um, and then also still having both sides. So anytime I go back home, like I feel like I live two lives, one in Mexico, one here, uh, in America, and it just like back and forth. Um, so yeah.

Sevan Matossian (09:17):

You like going home, you like going back, uh, to Mexico, is it, it’s a, it’s a, like a, a home spot for you?

Jorge Fernandez (09:23):

I love it just because I feel like it kind of brings me back down to reality and just like seeing like how it’s a poor community there in [inaudible] and they’re just like the happiest people. So it just kind of brings me back down and it kind of helps me enjoy family, like just the food and all that stuff. So I really, really do enjoy it.

Sevan Matossian (09:45):

Do you have dual citizenship?

Jorge Fernandez (09:47):

I don’t, I actually wanted to get it through my mom just to try to buy some land out there and stuff. Um, so that’s in the works, but

Sevan Matossian (09:53):

Yeah, for sure. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, it’s always, always good to get an extra passport, just

Jorge Fernandez (10:01):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:01):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Wow. And, uh, are you in your, so you, when you said you lived in Mexico for, with your grandparents for a while, how old were you then?

Jorge Fernandez (10:11):

Uh, I wanna say anywhere from like two to five in that range.

Sevan Matossian (10:17):

And did your parents live there too?

Jorge Fernandez (10:19):

Yeah, they, they bounced around here and there. Um, obviously at the beginning my parents struggled with money and stuff. They were young and so they would stay at my grandparents’ house or I would stay, we’d go back and forth. So yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:32):

Yeah. Extended family stuff. Mm-hmm.

Jorge Fernandez (10:35):


Sevan Matossian (10:35):

Uh, it wasn’t quite like that with my family, but, but, um, at least for me, but that’s the way my dad came, immigrated here and then sent for all his brothers and sisters. And so when they moved here, they all moved into a house together. Right. That’s how he used to do it. So they’re all piled into one house. And it was my favorite house to visit and I would go there every day. All my aunts and uncles were there and I’d go there and people would just be loving on me and feeding me.

Jorge Fernandez (11:00):

And that’s exactly what happens when I go back home. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (11:03):

Yeah. It’s awesome.

Jorge Fernandez (11:04):

The best.

Sevan Matossian (11:05):

And are your parents still living there In uh, in, in that bordertown?

Jorge Fernandez (11:10):

Yeah. Yeah. They’re still there. Mm-hmm.

Sevan Matossian (11:11):

<affirmative>. And do you go back and visit often?

Jorge Fernandez (11:14):

Not often anymore, but, uh, actually went right after the Rogue Invitational one. I spent almost two weeks there, just kind of hung out and relaxed.

Sevan Matossian (11:23):

Are they, is your, are your mom and dad tripping on your, on your body and, and what you’re doing with CrossFit and all that?

Jorge Fernandez (11:29):

Um, honestly, it’s funny cuz I’ve, I’ve always been this way. Um, and my mom’s, she, no, every time I talk to her, like, you need to stop, you need to slow down, you’re gonna get sick. Like,

Sevan Matossian (11:41):

Oh, like you’re pushing your body too hard.

Jorge Fernandez (11:42):

Yeah. But I’ve always, I’ve always done it since I was a kid, so they, they kind of understand it.

Sevan Matossian (11:47):

So. Um, so by the time you’re five or six, you’re permanently in the United States, you’re not doing the back and forth stuff?

Jorge Fernandez (11:54):

Mm. Here and there. I mean, I like, it’s hard to say I’m not going back and forth cuz I’d go, I mean, we’d spend the whole week in there, come back like, uh, we’re huge on family. So it was always, I’d see my grandparents three or four times a week, I’d have to go there. Um, they’d come back. So honestly, my entire life, and up until I came honestly to San Diego, um, I stopped going back and forth.

Sevan Matossian (12:18):

Did you do all of your, did you do all of your schooling in the United States? Elementary, junior high and high school?

Jorge Fernandez (12:22):

Yes. Yeah, I sure did.

Sevan Matossian (12:24):

And and was your school full of Mexicans?

Jorge Fernandez (12:27):

Yeah. Oh yeah. My hometown is like 99.9% Mexicans. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (12:32):

And when you go to school, are they teaching the, uh, curriculum in Spanish or in English?

Jorge Fernandez (12:36):

Um, English. Um, but I mean, we have teachers that would speak Spanish and stuff and it was, it was, it was really cool. I really enjoyed

Sevan Matossian (12:44):

It. And there’d be kids in your class who didn’t speak a lick of English, right? Like a dude who just came yesterday and you’re like, yes. Hey dude, what’s up? And he is like, Hey.

Jorge Fernandez (12:51):

Yes, exactly. Yep. There’s my family.

Sevan Matossian (12:54):

Oh, what a great family. That’s your mom in the middle?

Jorge Fernandez (12:57):

Yeah, that’s my mother.

Sevan Matossian (12:59):


Jorge Fernandez (13:00):


Sevan Matossian (13:01):

<affirmative>. She’s a looker. Holy cow. You have a good looking family. Thank

Jorge Fernandez (13:04):


Sevan Matossian (13:05):

And that’s your brother who’s in the videos?

Jorge Fernandez (13:07):

Yeah, this is my cousin through my mom’s side. Yeah. Lalo. He’s a, actually, he just stopped. He was a co-chair at Invictus. Um, there’s a funny story about him as well. Um, so

Sevan Matossian (13:17):

Yeah. Yeah. Let me hear the funny story about him. I saw him in your video. He seemed, it seemed like good, you guys seem like brothers in there.

Jorge Fernandez (13:23):

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We, we got a really, really good relationship. Um, so he actually, so we grew up together and stuff, and he actually left, uh, to Miami, uh, to do like surface sole. He was a gymnast. Um, and so he stayed out there and we hadn’t talked in like seven, eight years. Um, and so, uh, one day we reached out, reached out to each other on Instagram, we’re like, Hey, let’s catch up and stuff. And then eventually we came to this thing to where we’re like, Hey, let’s start, uh, Jim here in San Diego. So he moved over. Um, and then we just started talking about starting a gym. And then we both kind of hopped into Invictus at the same time and we fell in love with CrossFit and that just kind of put on the, got put on the back burner and we just ended up doing CrossFit. He became a CrossFit coach. He competes as well, um, on our, uh, other Invictus team. And so yeah, we’ve just kind of been in this space together and just kind of have been growing at the same time.

Sevan Matossian (14:22):

Who, who is that other girl in the, in the picture? Um, right before you guys? Yeah. Oh, that girl by the fireplace.

Jorge Fernandez (14:28):

Uh, so this is Allie. Allie Weiss.

Sevan Matossian (14:31):

Oh, okay. Oh, and she was the one, um, okay, now I recognize her. She was at the ranch.

Jorge Fernandez (14:38):

Yes. So she was at the ranch. And so yeah, so she used to do CrossFit actually she was a team and she won, she won the CrossFit games.

Sevan Matossian (14:45):


Jorge Fernandez (14:46):


Sevan Matossian (14:47):

Shows how good I pay attention. And is she, and she, but she’s not on your team now? Her older sister is

Jorge Fernandez (14:55):

Her Older sister is,

Sevan Matossian (14:56):

Yes. And is, is Allie still doing CrossFit?

Jorge Fernandez (14:59):

Yes, she is. She’ll be, uh, competing on the sec on the other team on our second and biggest team.

Sevan Matossian (15:05):

Hey, what’s that like? Do the sister, are the sisters pretty competitive? Is that pretty crazy? Oh

Jorge Fernandez (15:09):

My, yeah, they’re very competitive. Um, very, very competitive

Sevan Matossian (15:13):

With each other.

Jorge Fernandez (15:14):

And Alex is like really, really quiet and conservative, but she, she turns it on when she goes against Brit. It’s, it’s pretty funny.

Sevan Matossian (15:22):

How, how old’s Brittany?

Jorge Fernandez (15:24):


Sevan Matossian (15:26):

Or, okay, so she’s still young. The older sister’s still young.

Jorge Fernandez (15:30):

Actually, I, I lied. She’s 27 and Allie’s 24.

Sevan Matossian (15:35):

And and how old is, uh, Al Shama?

Jorge Fernandez (15:39):

Josh is 30 now. I think he just turned 30.

Sevan Matossian (15:43):

Yeah. And Devin’s 12.

Jorge Fernandez (15:45):

Yeah, Devin’s 12. <laugh>. No, she’s, she’s 19 or no, she’s 20. She’s 20 now. She’s just turned 20.

Sevan Matossian (15:54):

And you and De and you and Devin have, uh, individual aspirations. That’s, that’s where you guys are headed?

Jorge Fernandez (16:00):

Yes, yes, yes. Definitely.

Sevan Matossian (16:02):

Yeah. Crazy.

Jorge Fernandez (16:03):


Sevan Matossian (16:04):

You haven’t had any alcohol in two years?

Jorge Fernandez (16:07):

Um, actually I did have some in Vegas. Um, just to, uh, that was the first time I was like, look, I’m gonna relax. I’m gonna let everything just kind of, I’m gonna eat what I want. Just kind of reset. Just cause I’ve been going so, so hard on myself for the last two and a half years. Um, so in Vegas I did, I said, you know what, this is the time to reset and just kind of, uh, relax, take it easy. So I did in Vegas, uh,

Sevan Matossian (16:32):


Jorge Fernandez (16:33):


Sevan Matossian (16:33):

That was Caleb. How long has it been since you’ve had alcohol?

Jorge Fernandez (16:37):

Like six months. Well, that’s get, let’s be six months.

Sevan Matossian (16:42):

Well, his isn’t probably isn’t by choice. Caleb’s d Caleb’s deployed overseas Jorge, so Oh, wow. Cool. Yeah. So he’s just in a room over, yeah. <laugh>. Okay, so sorry, interrupt story. You, so you were in Vegas, you were in Vegas for like a competi, it was like after a competition or?

Jorge Fernandez (17:00):

Yeah, so they put on that competition, um, at underdogs, and I just kind of went to spectate and stuff, and that’s when I came on. Um, and so yeah, everyone kind of went out that night and I said, yeah, you know what? Like I’ll come out and just kind of, it was the staying out late part was the, the tough part for me. I usually get in bed about eight, so that was, that was pretty hard on me. But it was a good reset.

Sevan Matossian (17:23):

And you’ve been abstaining from alcohol, not because you’re an alcoholic, but because you’re trying to put all of your eggs in one basket. You’re trying to optimize what your, uh, body can do.

Jorge Fernandez (17:36):

Exactly. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Sevan Matossian (17:38):

<affirmative>. Okay. Brace yourself. People, this one’s gonna fucking rock the house. And no caffeine either.

Jorge Fernandez (17:44):

No caffeine.

Sevan Matossian (17:46):

Fucking brilliant. You don’t know how much I envy that, that, that is brilliant.

Jorge Fernandez (17:50):

<laugh>. I, I used to, I mean, that’s, no, I can’t say I, I still kind of crave it, but I, I was a big, I loved coffee. Coffee was my, I mean, it’s like a routine. You wake up, you want to drink it. Like, but I was having two coffees with four shots of espresso in each one.

Sevan Matossian (18:06):

A day?

Jorge Fernandez (18:06):

A day?

Sevan Matossian (18:07):

Yeah. Before noon.

Jorge Fernandez (18:09):

Before noon. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And people, people were always ask me like, what, what’s the diff like, why do you, why’d you stop it? It’s not that bad for you and stuff. And every time I talk about it, I say, so it took me a while, but once I kind of, uh, figured out what it does to my body every time I, I I, I’m like thinking like this, I don’t have those up, down, anxiety, stress, depression. So like any, anything that pops up, it could be rent or something that’s due. And I’m, I just kind of like figured out in my head. I’m like, it’s, it’s gonna get figured out. It doesn’t. And that was ever since I stopped drinking coffee, I didn’t have those ups and downs. So it’s been really good for me mentally.

Sevan Matossian (18:52):

I, I, I wanna say something as, as extreme as it would be like that for everyone. I don’t think people realize the impact it it has on them.

Jorge Fernandez (19:00):

Yeah. I mean, I know the impact it had on me after, after like six, seven months, I kind of started to notice, hey, like, I’m not having those anxiety or the stressed out or the ups, the downs, the, yeah, it was, it was kind of weird.

Sevan Matossian (19:15):

Uh, David w uh, alcohol is Moss Malo, then sugar. See that? Like, I know my audience

Jorge Fernandez (19:21):


Sevan Matossian (19:22):

I know my guess Moss Malo. Uh, that’s incredible. And what about, you have that guy there who works out at your gym? Uh, the, the big beautiful guy, the black guy, he’s a doctor. Um, you know who I’m talking about? He’s a giant, he’s the fittest doc. He’s been on this show. I can’t remember his name. Doesn’t that guy work out in Invictus? Caleb? He does the crazy shit. He’s got like, you know, like, probably like a 500 pound back squat and shit. Hmm. He looks like a statue. You don’t know who I’m talking about? Jorge, that means that means he doesn’t work out there. And I have the wrong gym. He’s a San Diego native.

Jorge Fernandez (20:04):

Hmm. I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (20:05):

He use, he says he only drinks coffee right before a workout and he thinks it helps his Oh, this guy? Uh, this guy? No, not, not that guy.

Jorge Fernandez (20:14):

Uh, no, that’s not, I don’t think that’s here.

Sevan Matossian (20:18):

This guy?

Jorge Fernandez (20:20):

Yeah. No, I, I haven’t seen him here.

Sevan Matossian (20:22):

Oh, that dude doesn’t work out. I thought for sure that guy worked out at Invictus.

Jorge Fernandez (20:26):

I mean, he may, I he could, but the times that I’m not here, but I’ve, I haven’t seen him around here.

Sevan Matossian (20:31):

I think you’d know. He’s pretty high profile. Hmm. He’s a great guy. I think he’s in San Diego, by the way. And if you need a doctor in San Diego, he’s a full blown Nutball. CrossFitter. He’s the doctor I want. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. He’s such a stud. Does it say where he is living? Dr. Nick?

Jorge Fernandez (20:50):

Yeah. I’ve never heard of him

Sevan Matossian (20:54):

Any, anyway. He said he drinks a coffee only before he works out. And I wanna say that he thinks it gives him a one per, he uses it as a, uh, p e d.

Jorge Fernandez (21:04):

Got it. And he’s, they’re like the, just like a kind of like pre-workout. Like it just kind of jolts him and

Sevan Matossian (21:10):

He thinks it gives him a 1%, uh, increase in performance.

Jorge Fernandez (21:15):

I mean, it could, I don’t, I don’t know

Sevan Matossian (21:18):

How was, was it hard? Was it hard? Did you, did you go through that? Did you start telling yourself stories like that when you quit coffee? Like, oh shit, my performance is gonna suffer?

Jorge Fernandez (21:27):

Um, no, because when I, I did it because, uh, so it was like, I had little things I would say. Like, um, all right, so these athletes are doing this, this and this. What’s the next step that I can take to get me closer to them? And it’d be like, all right, well you’re drinking a ton of coffee, let’s try to cut that out. And so anytime I would cut something out, it would mentally, it was like, okay, this is gonna get me better. So it wasn’t like, oh, it’s gonna affect my performance.

Sevan Matossian (21:54):

God, you’re wise. I think that that’s one of the turning points in my life when I realized that to be better is to remove things from your life. Not to add things from your life. And I think so many people have that shit backwards cuz that’s not how our minds are, are technically trained to work. Right? We need more food in the refrigerator, we need more friends, we need more cars, we need more. But really, if you want to be a better person, it’s the opposite. You gotta start ditching shit.

Jorge Fernandez (22:20):

Yeah. Yeah. I mean that’s very true. I didn’t even think about it like that. But that’s kind of my, my thought process the last couple years is what can I cut out? Cuz obviously I already added the nutrition, I’ve added the recovery, I’ve added this then it was coffee, alcohol, processed sugars. Um, I, what else did I cut out there? Was hanging out with friends to add more recovery, quitting my job. So it is kind of taken away.

Sevan Matossian (22:49):

It’s e it’s even as simple as this. So let’s say you have a car and a motorcycle, right? And so then now you have to, you spend an extra, extra time making sure that motorcycle’s registered and you’re making extra time that it has insurance. And then when your motorcycle breaks down, you’re spending extra time taking it to the shop and all of these things are taken away from whatever your goal is. Yeah. And if you have your big picture goal, and if you have 20 things like that in your life, let’s say you have a hamster and you have a dog and you have a fancy coffee machine all and then you know, your fancy coffee machine breaks down. Now you’re in line at Best Buy trying to return it and get you $300 back and it’s just a fucking cl your life becomes a cluster fuck of taking care of shit objects instead of being at Invictus. And I’m doing the Sam dancer warmup.

Jorge Fernandez (23:32):

There you go. You should write a book and spell it. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (23:35):

Stealing from

Jorge Fernandez (23:36):

You cut things

Sevan Matossian (23:37):

Out. What I learned from uh, Jorge Fernandez, you like your name?

Jorge Fernandez (23:42):

I love my name. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (23:43):

It’s pretty cool.

Jorge Fernandez (23:45):

My middle name is Alejandro. So Alejandro Fernandez. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (23:50):


Jorge Fernandez (23:51):


Sevan Matossian (23:52):

Hey, um, can you pull up my, um, Instagram account, uh, Caleb and, and see what I posted yesterday? I had never seen that Sam dancer warmup from your vlog.

Jorge Fernandez (24:03):


Sevan Matossian (24:04):

<affirmative>. And I just got so excited because I spend so much time in my garage

Jorge Fernandez (24:10):

Front of that was so that was so awesome seeing that.

Sevan Matossian (24:12):

And, and so when I saw you doing the same dance war, I’m like, how can I, I brought my boys in, I’m like, okay, we’re gonna, I did it with the 40 pound D ball in the rotation. Yeah, yeah,

Jorge Fernandez (24:20):


Sevan Matossian (24:21):

But I’m like, we’re just gonna steal this from Jorge.

Jorge Fernandez (24:24):

This is so cool.

Sevan Matossian (24:27):

So they were watching, they were, they were watching uh, star Wars or something last night and I’m like, Hey, stop the movie. They’re like, why? I’m like, I need to pract. I need to see something on you guys <laugh>.

Jorge Fernandez (24:37):

That is great.

Sevan Matossian (24:39):

That’s it though, right? Is do you approve of that?

Jorge Fernandez (24:42):

I do. That’s perfect. Yeah, I mean, uh, I even like it on the sand dude things cuz it’s like more stability.

Sevan Matossian (24:48):


Jorge Fernandez (24:48):

Um, but yeah, just marching away and then strengthening the upper half of the back holding the people. That’s

Sevan Matossian (24:56):

Awesome. What about, what about holding it down low? Like this one of the kids tried to hold it low. I’m like, nah, nah,

Jorge Fernandez (25:00):

Nah, they gotta hold it in that front requisition or bear hug.

Sevan Matossian (25:04):

Okay, good.

Jorge Fernandez (25:05):

Yeah, that’s good there.

Sevan Matossian (25:07):

Do you use the sand dune stepper?

Jorge Fernandez (25:09):

I don’t, no. I’ve actually seen it. I’m really interested in it. I want to kind of see if I could do like some handstand pushups and stuff on it just cuz it’s like the instability. Um, but actually wow,

Sevan Matossian (25:20):


Jorge Fernandez (25:20):

First, the first time I ever saw it was I think Josh Bridges had it, one of his YouTube videos or something. Um, but yeah, I’ve never given him a try.

Sevan Matossian (25:29):

Uh, Caleb, will you see if you can find someone doing a handstand pushup on a sand dune step or that would be nuts. That thing is so unstable.

Jorge Fernandez (25:37):


Sevan Matossian (25:39):

I guess you could do one hand first and then the other hand and then try both hands like

Jorge Fernandez (25:43):

Yeah, like a plate plate on one side and then sand in on the other. Yeah. I think it, it could strengthen the wrists and stuff, which would be good.

Sevan Matossian (25:51):

Ha. Have you ever seen anyone do that?

Jorge Fernandez (25:53):


Sevan Matossian (25:55):

No. Oh, that’s crazy.

Jorge Fernandez (25:56):


Sevan Matossian (25:58):

So you’re, you’re going to elementary school, uh, b bordertown and junior high and high school. And, um, growing up is good. Really familial. You have a lot of support. You’re obviously, when you have a lot of family, your identity gets grounded in your family. Yes. You’re a confident, uh, little kid. You know, your parents love you.

Jorge Fernandez (26:17):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

And, um, any, any sports in those towns? Any like school act? Like what are you doing? What are you doing after school and during school?

Jorge Fernandez (26:25):

Yeah. Um, so like I said, I never stopped my, uh, since I was a kid, so I played soccer, baseball, basketball track. I, I did it all. Uh, but my main sports were baseball and football. Um, I played both all through high school and then I decided to go, uh, the baseball route into college.

Sevan Matossian (26:50):

Why not? Wouldn’t soccer be like more of a better cultural fit?

Jorge Fernandez (26:53):

That’s one thing that I think I’ve, well, I don’t regret it cuz I, I am where I am and I really love what I’m doing now, but I think I could have been pretty good if I would’ve stuck with soccer.

Sevan Matossian (27:05):

And um, where do you think you built, and so you built a base

Jorge Fernandez (27:09):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>

Sevan Matossian (27:10):

Active kid.

Jorge Fernandez (27:11):


Sevan Matossian (27:12):

And where do you of, of those sports, could you pick one or any combination of him that you think was like, was soccer, build your, like, you know, Miko Saleo was a soccer player, so he got his engine. Uh, Katie Mo was a basketball player, so she did the four minutes, you know that you’re on the court full throttle. Any one of those in particular?

Jorge Fernandez (27:30):

Oh, there you go.

Sevan Matossian (27:30):

See? Oh, good. Fine. Caleb.

Jorge Fernandez (27:35):

Wow. Close.

Sevan Matossian (27:36):

I guess I still haven’t looked at the sand. Dun stepper. Okay. There’s a sand

Jorge Fernandez (27:42):

<laugh>. That’s funny.

Sevan Matossian (27:45):

Thank you. Thank you Jor. Um, anyone in particular that you think was No,

Jorge Fernandez (27:55):

No, they all pretty much helped me. I mean, soccer, ham, their feet, coordination, agility, uh, power endurance, football, hand-eye coordination, helping, uh, honestly, f football helped me to understand how to be a leader more. Um, I don’t know, it all kind of ties in everything. I, I’ve just known that I’ve always like, worked really hard in training and, and like running and stuff for my sport. So whatever it was, it, it helped me in what I’m doing now.

Sevan Matossian (28:33):

What do you mean football helped you, um, with being a leader?

Jorge Fernandez (28:37):

Mm, so I was just the quarterback in high school. Um, honestly, starting at from seventh grade to senior year, I was like the, the starting quarterback and I would just be like the mediator between my coach and my team. Um, and then just calling plays and just, I, I don’t know, it just, it brought my leadership to a whole new level.

Sevan Matossian (28:58):

Did you know that that was happening or, or only in hindsight when you look back?

Jorge Fernandez (29:05):

Um, I always knew like I had to lead by example and everyone would follow, but now that I look back, I, I understand how much of it I did and how I led, uh, quite a bit of people in high school.

Sevan Matossian (29:18):

Yeah. Crazy. I, I’ve had this kid, Tyson, Beijing, who’s a college football player on the show a couple times now mm-hmm. <affirmative> and he’s a quarterback. And I’m starting to understand like, the huge importance of leadership from a quarterback at the highest levels. Like that’s like, I mean, you can’t, can you teach that to a kid? Does someone sit you down and say, Jorge, you have to be the leader or you figure it out?

Jorge Fernandez (29:43):

I, so I’ll give you a an example of now that I look back and I understand that I was meant to lead. And so, uh, freshman year of high school they brought me up to varsity to become a, a cornerback. And so I was practicing defense and stuff and.

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