#741 – Triple Feature | Travis Mayer, Pat Vellner, and Alexis Raptis

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Bam. We’re live.

Brian Friend (00:01):

Yeah. Always do that on purpose. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (00:04):

It’s Travis. It’s, it’s Travis Mayer or Travis Meyer.

Brian Friend (00:07):

Mayor. Mayor. But not like the mayor that runs your town into the ground.

Sevan Matossian (00:14):

The mayor. That’s like Oscar Mayer, Meyer Wiener.

Brian Friend (00:19):

No, like Travis fucking mayor.

Sevan Matossian (00:20):

Mayor. Why does he spell it wrong?

Brian Friend (00:24):


Sevan Matossian (00:27):

Have you watched that? Um, have you watched that, uh, podcast? Um, out of, uh, max El Hodge’s gym or out of Travis’s gym? Is that, is that studio in Travis’s gym?

Brian Friend (00:39):

Well, I think that in that building, and we can ask him for clarification that he has a gym. And then on the other side of the building, t t t has a variety of offices, workspaces and that media room.

Sevan Matossian (00:52):

Okay. So it’s in, they’re connected. Like you could, you could be inside.

Brian Friend (00:56):

I think you can walk from Travis’s gym to the t t t facilities without going outside. But I haven’t been there. Oh, okay. I haven’t been invited. I haven’t had a chance to go.

Sevan Matossian (01:06):

It’s um, it is a, um, it’s a good podcast.

Brian Friend (01:12):

I think they do have some good podcasts. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:15):

What’s the guy’s name with like the Golden Tan? The blonde guy.

Brian Friend (01:19):

Golden Tan.

Sevan Matossian (01:21):

He’s like, he, he like tan’s like, like, uh, like

Brian Friend (01:24):

I know Max goes on there

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

Like a pancake. The b blonde-haired guy, he looks like Tan’s not from bar. Like, he looks like he’s dating Barbie

Brian Friend (01:30):

Brennan. Maybe

Sevan Matossian (01:32):

He’s good. He keeps his energy so good. He’s so positive. I watched two just back to back podcasts with him yesterday. I

Brian Friend (01:38):

Think it is. Brennan. Brennan goes on there. Adam Rogers goes on there. Sometimes. Adam’s more of a tall, darker-skinned, uh, short hair, short beard. Oh, he’s very cerebral. He, he coaches Alexis Raptors.

Sevan Matossian (01:50):

I need to see a picture of this Adam Guy. A Yeah, he, he’s the one you said he, he coaches Alexis Raptors.

Brian Friend (01:55):


Sevan Matossian (01:56):

Yeah. She’s like in love with him.

Brian Friend (01:58):

He’s, he’s really good. Adam and I met Oh, good morning, Travis. What’s

Sevan Matossian (02:02):

Up? What’s up Travis Mayer? What’s

Travis Mayer (02:04):

Up buddy? How

Sevan Matossian (02:05):

You doing? I’m awesome.

Brian Friend (02:06):

We were just talking about some of the TT T coaches. Ken thinks Brennan looks like Ken from Barbie’s. Uh, love Life, <laugh>, something like that. <laugh>. That’s possible. And I was telling him about Adam Rodgers and uh, and, uh, he’s, he’s Alexis’s coach, is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. I met a Adam at like the 2019 games. He was back in those days when someone knew who I was. I was always curious, cuz I didn’t know, not very many people knew who I was, but he was one of these guys that knew me really early on and we had a big discussion about scoring that way back in 2000, uh, 19, I think.

Travis Mayer (02:41):

Yeah. He’s, uh, he’s a very interesting man, very stoic man of many few words.

Sevan Matossian (02:47):

Adam Alexis is in love with him.

Travis Mayer (02:50):

Yeah. I mean, it works,

Sevan Matossian (02:53):

You know. Yeah. It’s, it’s crazy. It’s cra I, I Hey, what’s the worst name for a podcast? What’s the two worst names for podcast? Animus Corpus or the Seon podcast? That’s like, if you want people like, just to never say the names of your podcast. Choose.

Travis Mayer (03:07):

I’m gonna say Spot Podcast <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (03:08):

Yes. It’s crazy.

Travis Mayer (03:10):

You’re just naming it after yourself. Like you gotta come on, be a little more creative. You should CEO like your shirt.

Sevan Matossian (03:17):

Yeah, that would be easy. Way easier. Way easier. I’m like, Anna, I’m

Travis Mayer (03:23):

Surprised you’re up this early.

Sevan Matossian (03:24):

An oh brother. Oh brother. Someone wrote the, Brian sent me a text. He goes, you must really like our guest to get up this early.

Travis Mayer (03:32):


Sevan Matossian (03:32):

Right. Usually, usually I get up an hour before my podcast today. I only got up, uh, 45 minutes. But you know what’s crazy is I still deuced, I still dropped the deuce

Travis Mayer (03:42):

Still before you start. Let’s

Sevan Matossian (03:44):

Get Yeah. Yeah. Like I, I, that was like my biggest concern. I was like, what if I, because I, I don’t want to be in here without dropping a deuce. It’s like working out for me.

Travis Mayer (03:51):

Yeah. You just gotta make sure you e empty the tank before you start. Yeah. I don’t take competitions. You gotta make sure it’s all emptied out ready

Sevan Matossian (03:58):

To, that isn’t, that is important, right?

Travis Mayer (04:00):

Oh, man. I think it’s very important. You always get the nervous peas and then if you ever feel like you gotta poop before you gotta go, it’s a, it’s a rough feeling going to the starting line. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (04:12):

I if your, if your deucing is off on competition day, that’s like, that’s a head trip. That’s noise in the brain. Right. Not only do are you have the deuce with you, but it’s just noise in the brain.

Travis Mayer (04:21):

I can see that. Yeah.

Brian Friend (04:22):

I always, I always felt

Sevan Matossian (04:23):

I’m about I’m asking you to, I’m, I’m, I’m asking you to agree with me. Not to say, you can see what I, what I’m saying.

Brian Friend (04:27):

<laugh>, I always felt that way about long distance running. It’s like I was either gonna be limited by one of three things, leg fatigue, aerobic fatigue, or something wrong with my stomach. The first two I could train for, but the third one, if it happened, I just had to deal with

Travis Mayer (04:40):

It somehow. You got the bubble guts going on <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (04:42):

You ever, what, what is the, you ever, do you ever, you ever like smoke a cigarette before an event, Travis? Just to make sure you do. So like, just like, uh,

Travis Mayer (04:49):

No, I don’t

Sevan Matossian (04:50):

<laugh> like you’re in trouble. It’s like five minutes before the event you’re like, fuck, I don’t really wanna smoke this marble light. But,

Travis Mayer (04:55):

Uh, no, I don’t think that’s ever actually crossed our mind. Uh,

Brian Friend (04:58):

Seven, sometimes seven thinks we’re still in 1985.

Travis Mayer (05:01):

Yeah. You still wishes We were in 1985. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (05:05):

Do you, uh, do you do anything, do, will you, if you haven’t deuced, will you take like three fish oil or like, will you need any No, no.

Travis Mayer (05:11):

Be like meant to happen. It’s not good to happen then.

Sevan Matossian (05:14):

Uh, is is it pretty consistent though? Are you, are, are you really regular?

Travis Mayer (05:18):

I would say yes. Yeah. Love how this conversation has already started.

Sevan Matossian (05:22):

<laugh>. Hey, it’s, it’s the, it’s, it’s, it’s the, I would ask you about your menes. I just don’t think you have any, it’s the same thing with that. It’s like there’s, these are things that have to be addressed. If you’re gonna compete at the highest level, you can’t be carrying a fucking 12 inch log with you

Brian Friend (05:36):

<laugh>. Are there ever, are you guys ever in the back after an event and someone just like, God damnit, dude, I just had a shit that whole time that sucked.

Travis Mayer (05:42):

Oh, yes.

Brian Friend (05:43):

And you believe them when they say that?

Travis Mayer (05:45):


Sevan Matossian (05:46):

Sounds like an excuse to me. Brian <laugh> sounds like a, a white, a fifth place,

Travis Mayer (05:50):

But I also feel like I’ve had an ex the experience. So I mean, like, it’s happened

Brian Friend (05:54):

<laugh>. Yeah. That’s one of those where’re like, ah, maybe it’s true, true. Maybe it’s not. But if it is, I feel, I

Travis Mayer (05:59):

Mean, if you’re using it as like why you didn’t perform, that’s different. But if it’s just like, man, the whole time I felt like I was about to then that’s one thing. But if you’re like, oh, that’s why I didn’t perform

Sevan Matossian (06:09):

Travis. Do you know who Nick? Do you know who Nick Matthew is?

Travis Mayer (06:13):

Do I Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (06:13):

The guy with the show.

Travis Mayer (06:14):

Do I know him know him? No. I

Sevan Matossian (06:17):

Mean like, no, but if I said I’m like, you could pick him out of a crowd. Yeah. The guy with the hat only wears half a shirt. Yes.

Travis Mayer (06:22):

Yeah. Always.

Sevan Matossian (06:24):


Travis Mayer (06:24):

Is there a reason behind that? Is there a reason why he does that? Is that like a football thing? Like, you know, a lot of football players used to do that.

Sevan Matossian (06:33):

I, I, I have an opinion on it, but it’s not basically grounded. In fact,

Travis Mayer (06:37):

<laugh>, I feel like you have an opinion about a lot of things. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (06:40):

He, he, he, he, he, um, I, I think his, I I think it has something to do with his, um, open his openness to his sexuality. I think it’s like he’s expressing his feminine side. Like if you go to his gym or his Instagram page, he’s got like a lot of rainbow flags and stuff. And I think it’s kind of like that. Or in like, when I used to go to the gay pride parade a lot, and that was like a common, you know, outfit for the dudes, the, the crop top. So I think there’s some sort of, uh, connection there. I’m being serious.

Travis Mayer (07:05):

Yeah. I’m not making any judgment or jumping to any conclusion.

Sevan Matossian (07:09):

Don’t get canceled.

Travis Mayer (07:10):

Yeah. I look, I’m not saying a word <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (07:13):


Travis Mayer (07:14):

Be one. Get me canceled.

Sevan Matossian (07:15):

Yeah. Yeah. Here’s David. David understands it. Look it rainbows and unicorns. Uh, by the way, uh, before I forget, please, uh, extend my, uh, love to, uh, Chandler and Noah.

Travis Mayer (07:27):


Sevan Matossian (07:27):

Will. When, when you see them, um, tell them Yeah.

Travis Mayer (07:30):

I, I head down tomorrow so I’ll see ’em tomorrow.

Sevan Matossian (07:32):

Tell both of them. I have the highest respect for both of them. And, um, I’m, I’m still eagerly awaiting them to come on the podcast. We’re our agents are in negotiations. Mm. Hey, how close are you to, how close are you to Fort Meyer, Florida?

Travis Mayer (07:47):

Mm. I don’t know. I can look it up. Why? What’s in Fort Myers?

Sevan Matossian (07:51):

Uh, my buddies down there, uh, a guest we’ve had on the show, um, is training down there. His name is Tyson bk. He just broke the, uh, uh, record for all time, uh, touchdowns in all, uh, college divisions. He’s gonna get drafted. He’s gonna get drafted into the NFL

Travis Mayer (08:05):

Eight hour, eight and a half hours.

Sevan Matossian (08:07):

And I’m looking for, and he’s a CrossFitter and I’m looking in, uh, he’s, he’s gonna play in the Senior Bowl. He is going to the combine. And I’m just looking for a CrossFitter just to who, who, who wants to take advantage of him before he becomes a franchise quarterback. And it’s so big that no one can talk to him. <laugh>.

Travis Mayer (08:23):

No. That’s pretty impressive. No, but he’s got eight half hours from me. He’s much pair of Miami

Brian Friend (08:28):

Seven. I know a pair of brothers who own a gym in Fort Myers.

Sevan Matossian (08:31):

You do? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I

Brian Friend (08:33):

Should, I think they might have actually had some pretty severe damage to it during the hurricane.

Sevan Matossian (08:37):

Okay, let’s talk about that afterwards. Yeah, he’s a good dude. And it’s a, it’s a huge missed opportunity for CrossFit. CrossFit should be totally this, this guy’s gonna be, this guy’s like the greatest college quarterback who ever lived. I know a lot of people are struggling with that because he is division two, but it’s like, hey man, he, he has more touchdown passes than fucking anyone. Coaches are saying that they’ve never seen a quarterback like him, and he’s gonna fly under the radar. CrossFit’s not gonna embrace him. He’s a full-blown CrossFitter. And now he’s gonna go get drafted in the NFL and become a franchise quarterback. And we’re gonna be like, fuck, we had the next Tom Brady in our clutches to like, help us with that.

Travis Mayer (09:09):

Well, then they’ll talk about him.

Sevan Matossian (09:10):

Well, yeah, but then it’s too late. He’s gonna be like, fuck you. I’m Orange Theory. They paid me $6 million <laugh>. You know what I mean? Like

Travis Mayer (09:21):


Sevan Matossian (09:22):

So, uh, the, the, the, the, you were, I, I watched the um, podcast, the, the pod two podcasts. I watched the Animus Corpus podcast last night. Were with, uh, Alexis Raps and the one with you, neither of a max was on. And the guy Brennan. Yeah, Brennan handsome Ken. Yeah, Brennan. Um, man, he’s great.

Travis Mayer (09:40):

He is. He’s very good.

Sevan Matossian (09:41):

Yeah. And you guys were great. You’re great dude. You’re so thanks. Thanks. Yeah, you’re so great. You came, you came on there, you brought the energy. The show was full of just tons of tidbits. I was like, what am I gonna talk about? They already, he uncovered like everything with you. So that’s what you didn’t talk about juices. Yeah,

Travis Mayer (09:57):

He does. He does a very good job of just keeping it easy, easy to talk to. And we hang out a lot. So we play a lot of golf together in between. But, uh, yeah, he’s very good when he does all of the podcasts

Sevan Matossian (10:09):

And the guy behind the computer’s good too. He keeps it, um, keeps the show like kind of on track.

Travis Mayer (10:14):

Yeah. So he used to be like barbell shrug back in the day. Um, and then he’s been with t t t for a long time now

Sevan Matossian (10:22):

And he doesn’t want to be on camera. That’s why whenever it cuts to him, it’s just like a hat.

Travis Mayer (10:26):

It’s that or like the what’s the tool man? Uh, oh, you know the guy neighbor? Yes. Wilson. He just need just his, uh, yeah. Face or just his eyes creeping over the fence. That’s what I always think of when he’s talking.

Sevan Matossian (10:41):

Travis. Is that show live?

Travis Mayer (10:45):

The t t

Sevan Matossian (10:46):

T one. Yeah. When you guys go on, are you live? Okay, so those camera angles and all of that’s edited and post-production.

Travis Mayer (10:53):

Yeah. So he has multiple cameras set up and then, I mean, he probably could do it live if he wanted to. Yeah. That <laugh>

Travis Mayer (11:00):


Sevan Matossian (11:01):

You don’t even get to see this dude’s eyes though.

Travis Mayer (11:04):

You see a little bit of his eyes. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (11:05):

You, you do,

Travis Mayer (11:07):

Don’t you Chris? I don’t know. I don’t ever go back and really watch them. They just kind of happen. And then that’s about it. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (11:16):

Uh, you are the biggest example of, um, that exposes my bias of, uh, of covering people because people think like journalists are not biased or not anymore, but they used to. But the, the reason why we, um, built a relationship is just cuz you were nice to me.

Travis Mayer (11:36):

Yeah. Back in, was that 2014?

Sevan Matossian (11:38):

Yeah. You were just nice. And I was like, okay. Fuck. This is easy. This guy’s making my job easy.

Travis Mayer (11:43):

Yeah, we put clown noses on. We had a good time.

Sevan Matossian (11:46):


Travis Mayer (11:46):

Everybody still talks about that. I’ll still get people that will come back and just randomly, like even at the games this year, they’ll talk about that. They’ll be, oh, I used to love the behind the scenes. The clown knows all these things that people still talk about it. Which I think is kind of interesting that <laugh>, that’s what I’m still known for, was good. It,

Sevan Matossian (12:05):

It was the greatest bit.

Travis Mayer (12:06):

It was the great piece that <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (12:08):

Of all the behind the scenes that was the greatest bit with, uh, uh, Brooke Wells and all that shit. That shit was so funny. She was so great. She served up some great ones. She, she went along with

Travis Mayer (12:17):

It. I might follower since then, but we’ve been, we’ve been doing pretty well since

Brian Friend (12:21):

<laugh> <laugh> and it was actually, uh, probably per Sevan that, uh, you and I first met Travis cuz I think we met in the airport and we have, uh, lunch dinner that one time. Yeah. And Savon was responsible for, uh, my trip that year through

Travis Mayer (12:34):

God. I’m such a good man.

Sevan Matossian (12:35):

Such a God. I’m a good dude. Look, this guy thinks you’re a good dude. <laugh>.

Travis Mayer (12:40):

Aw, thank you. Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (12:43):

Uh, the other day we had Rich on, and I think it was Susie goes, rich, you’re a good dude. And he goes, well, formally, formally a good dude.

Brian Friend (12:55):


Sevan Matossian (12:58):

I love this. Um, what year did you start CrossFit Travis?

Travis Mayer (13:03):

2000, the end of 2010. So beginning of 2011.

Sevan Matossian (13:09):

And that was the year Alexis was born. And what was your first year to the games?

Travis Mayer (13:14):


Sevan Matossian (13:15):

Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. I, I, I maybe Brian remembers, but there are some crazy stats now. Even last year, I think like at the games there were only you and one other guy from your class of 2013. Uh, I

Brian Friend (13:29):

Think just

Travis Mayer (13:30):

Him. No, it was just me. It

Sevan Matossian (13:31):

Was just you.

Travis Mayer (13:32):

I was the lone survivor out there. Just me.

Brian Friend (13:35):

There’s a few from 2014

Travis Mayer (13:37):

Handshake and, uh, Ben Smith were the only other two that had like a shot at that point to be from 2013. But Noah was 14 and a lot of the other people from

Brian Friend (13:49):

EKG was 14. Col Seger was 14. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (13:52):


Travis Mayer (13:53):

And all those stats are garbage. They don’t even have the year 13 up there. They can’t even fix it. Come on

Sevan Matossian (14:00):

<laugh>. Oh, you need to roll on this podcast. You, you already fit in perfectly,

Travis Mayer (14:04):

Man. It’s been, it’s been it’s been what, 10 years now? They still can’t fix it.

Sevan Matossian (14:10):

Go down a little bit more. Caleb. I want, let’s just verify Travis isn’t making that up. What’s below? Below?

Travis Mayer (14:14):

Oh yeah. Oh, nothing because I used a different email. This is still

Brian Friend (14:17):

The most That’s what it is. Yeah. There’s, if, if you change your email address, then

Travis Mayer (14:21):

Man, you can do so many things and you can loop videos, you can do so many different things. But you’re telling me you can’t go in here and edit 2013 and put my placement. Ugh.

Brian Friend (14:32):

Which was pretty good for a rookie season.

Travis Mayer (14:34):


Sevan Matossian (14:34):

Was, what’d he take?

Travis Mayer (14:35):


Sevan Matossian (14:37):

Wow. And that was in Carson?

Travis Mayer (14:39):


Sevan Matossian (14:41):

Hey. Um, and you, and you were saying last year’s, the the fittest you ever, maybe we need music playing. This show seems too quiet. What’s wrong with me this morning? I feel like it’s too quiet on Do you play music? No, we don’t. But, but, uh, maybe it’s just like so early and I’m not myself yet. This is sleeping. So on. Um, uh, and you said last year you were the fittest you ever were.

Travis Mayer (15:00):


Sevan Matossian (15:02):

Best body, worst mindset last year of all the games.

Travis Mayer (15:07):

You know what’s funny is I actually thought it was the opposite of that. Uh, and then pretty much just downward spiral after like the first couple events. Um, and then just couldn’t kind of snap out of it, if I’m being honest. That’s kind of what happened. But going into it, there wasn’t a doubt that I wouldn’t finish in the top. Um, even just training felt greats numbers. I was hitting workouts that we were doing and testing with Noah and everybody else. So it was like, I kind of knew where I was standing. Um, and then just like one thing led to another, ripped my hand to shreds on the first event, then on the peg board, ripped it again. So it was just kind of like domino effect of I didn’t rip pretty much all season. And then <laugh>, I got there on the bike event and then that happened.


And then on the peg board, it just destroyed my whole hand and just kind of kept a bunch of little things adding up and I mean, that’s on me. And there was what it’s, it’s like Ryan was right about, there’s not very many things that I’ll ever say. He’s right about, and his predictions are always garbage. But the one of ’em was like, I forget, I don’t know if it was him or somebody, but it was like everybody’s placement something and then like, what they’re limited by. And it was just like Travis mayor execution. But I was like, all right, well touche. I don’t know if that was you or if that was somebody else, but it would be like someone was limited by like wall ball capacity or rowing or something else. And it gets down to my name and it just says execution. I was like, oh, well

Sevan Matossian (16:33):

Hey, hey. That was the prediction ahead of time or after?

Travis Mayer (16:37):

Oh, that was before I saw it and I was like, ugh. These people, I

Sevan Matossian (16:40):

Mean it’s, it’s why does he, is his head not straight? I think if Travis as the wise old owl is, is is Travis’s head not straight? It kind of broke my heart to hear you talk about that in the, um, animus podcast. Yeah. I was like, what? They’re just an old salty dog. You don’t even have a mind <laugh> in my, in my like, you know what I mean? In my perception of you.

Travis Mayer (16:58):

I mean, I think it’s a little bit better than yours, but other than that.

Sevan Matossian (17:01):


Brian Friend (17:01):

Yes. Well it’s, you know, it was me and John Young who did those kind of in collaboration last year and it’s, you know, there’s 80 individual athletes.

Travis Mayer (17:08):

I thinking, I think bad voodoo out there. He just can’t just put any positivity. He’s just gotta be negative about everybody. He’s like, don’t take it personal. He could have just said good things.

Sevan Matossian (17:17):

Yeah. Why do the pundits always say that? Now don’t take this personal.

Travis Mayer (17:19):

Yeah, well ask him. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (17:22):


Brian Friend (17:24):

It’s the main objective of putting that out there is, I know, I know more, more people, more opportunity to learn about more of the athletes, but in some cases, like Travis, it’s really difficult if you tell me, well, is he bad at gymnastics? I said, no, he is not bad at gymnastics. What about barbells cycling? No, he is not bad at that either. Machine work. No, he’s not bad at that. So we were like struggling to pick out a specific thing that he’s bad at. Um, and so we try to think, well, if he’s not bad at anything, why is he not doing, uh, you know, better Yeah. Than these 10th and 12th place finishes that he seems to be limited by. And then we, you know, went back and looked at some, some stuff and we’re like, maybe it’s just execution. We look at some of these workouts that we think he might be able to, to do this. And then he just drops out a little bit and those points add up over the course of a weekend of competition and it’ll be more, you know, uh, dramatic in a semi-final where there’s less events and at the games that consistency ends up elevating him relative to, you know, some of the other guys.

Sevan Matossian (18:19):


Travis Mayer (18:19):

That was a nice way to put it.

Sevan Matossian (18:20):

I, I’m, don’t worry, I’m not letting him off the hook with that. We’re gonna come back to that. Uh, I’m gonna, we’re gonna get a specific example. Uh, Jim Broski 4 99. Appreciate the content, fellas. These shows are all I listened to during my daily hero. Wads helps a ton. Uh, I, Jim is now up over 40,000, I think Instagram followers. He did Merf every day for a year. And when, I mean Merf, I don’t mean like the sissy Murf that we do, he did all sorts of crazy variations to it while doing the daily wad on.com. And now he’s doing a hero wad every day. And, uh, he, he’s, he’s nuts. But, uh, go over, yeah, go over and check out his Instagram account. He’s like, uh, part Brad Pitt part, uh, Thor. It’s, he, he is a piece of work. This guy. Hey, when you say execution, um, is, who

Travis Mayer (19:04):

Are you referring to now? Are you talking to Brian or myself?

Sevan Matossian (19:07):

Um, let me ask the question first and then I’ll tell you. Uh, when Brian, Brian, when, when you’re referring to execution, you mean like just even not coming in with his head straight or are you talking about like, um, uh, getting off the bike too slowly? Or are you the

Brian Friend (19:22):

Last, the last conversation John and I had before we filled in that column was maybe it’s just execution. I think John might have said that and I said Yeah, and if we put that there and Travis sees it, it’s really gonna fuck him up.

Sevan Matossian (19:32):


Travis Mayer (19:37):

We’ll, uh,

Brian Friend (19:39):

You gotta, you gotta bail me out here at some points. Caleb, please pull up the, uh, sink and squat preview for Waap Alza.

Sevan Matossian (19:47):

What is, what is, uh, when you say hand terror, uh, like if you hold your hand up, what, what, what was torn? Show me what was torn.

Travis Mayer (19:53):

So more or less there was like a little blood blister that popped here. Uhhuh <affirmative>. Then on the peg board it was here, here, here, here.

Sevan Matossian (20:04):

<laugh>. Oh wow. Like actual blood.

Travis Mayer (20:06):

I mean it was just like, yeah, it was just blood everywhere on the peg board. They, like, I came down medical, looked at me and they’re like, what just happened? I was like, well, I don’t know, but I need some tape and I need to fix this thing. Cuz there was just blood all over the mat all over the floor from where I was walking at that point. But it was like, I came down off the peg board, looked at my hand, I was like, well this is gonna be fun.

Sevan Matossian (20:25):

Hamburger meat.

Brian Friend (20:26):

Yeah. And it’s, it’s one of those weird things like part of, um, CrossFit, when you start early, it’s like people tear their hands and then over time you learn how to prevent your hands from tearing. Yeah. But when you’re competing at the highest level and you haven’t had a, you know, a hand tail like that in a long time now what you’re short on is experience of what to do when that does happen.

Travis Mayer (20:44):

Yeah. Well I wouldn’t say that cuz I mean, I still took care of it, handled it, finished it out. It was just one of those things that’s pretty annoying. Like anytime you grabbed the barbell was uncomfortable again. When we had that clean ette workout, like the, I just gripped the bar in my fingertips on my left hand and then hook gripped really hard on my right hand. So it was just like holding like that just so I didn’t have to put all the pressure. Um, and that could be me being soft or whatever you wanna call it. But at that point in time it kind of worked cuz it was pretty uncomfortable holding onto the bar. But I mean that’s, I have

Brian Friend (21:17):

Cigarettes, you, I thought

Travis Mayer (21:18):

Fine plan that or place that way, but I mean, it happens.

Sevan Matossian (21:23):

Um, uh, let’s, let’s go over to the, to the, um, biking event. Um, the the biking event, was it hard to keep count of the lap?

Travis Mayer (21:32):

I mean, I didn’t think so.

Sevan Matossian (21:34):

You didn’t? Okay.

Travis Mayer (21:35):

I mean, but according to you, I’m olden. My brain just kind of gone. So

Sevan Matossian (21:39):

<laugh>, uh, when, when, when, that is not true. That is not what I was suggesting. <laugh> kidding. That is not what I was suggesting. <laugh>, um, you’re like trying, you’re like trying to pick a fight.

Travis Mayer (21:51):

Yeah. Always.

Sevan Matossian (21:52):

Uh, gotta you pot. I feel

Travis Mayer (21:54):

Like you stir the pot all the time. What are you

Sevan Matossian (21:56):

Talking about? You, you man, you look good there. What a great photo I do, right? Yeah. God, look at that. Look so good. Wow.

Travis Mayer (22:03):

If only I performed as good as I looked there.

Sevan Matossian (22:05):

Hey, so as, as you go around the, as you go around, are you like lap one? Are you telling yourself the whole time? 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 and then two, two. No,

Travis Mayer (22:14):

But I also think that was from motocross, right? Like you just kind of, it’s something that you, I, I guess I didn’t really have to think about, but for a lot of other people it was a big, uh,

Brian Friend (22:24):

Do you watch the Supercross premiere last night?

Travis Mayer (22:27):

You bet.

Sevan Matossian (22:29):

Okay. So how many laps do those guys do?

Travis Mayer (22:32):

Well, it depends back in the, it depends on like what level you’re at, right? Like at the amateur level, like it can be certain laps that you’re just doing, but you then you’re ultimately looking for the white flag, uh, to know and signal that you got one more to go. If you’re like in the professional level, it’s a time, so it’ll be like 20 minutes plus two laps or 15 minutes plus two laps. So you, regardless you’re doing however many for that 15 minutes plus two laps at the very end.

Sevan Matossian (22:59):

O okay. So, and, and that’s, and that’s the difference between, I guess motocross. It’s not, it’s not, everyone’s trying to do as many laps as they can. It’s not a finite number of laps. So you don’t really have to count.

Travis Mayer (23:11):

No. Unless you’re more at like the amateur level then it could be like six laps. Um, so you do have to of course keep count, but there’s flags that show you, hey, this is the last lap. So like you have the flagger at the end that’s waving the white flag. There’s signaling, Hey, you got one more to go. And then of course, black and white is you’re done. So I mean, there could have been something just as simple as that of a person standing out there and you just show like, Hey, here’s your white flag, this means one more. Hey, here’s your checker flag, this means you’re done. Here’s your blue and yellow. You’re getting lapped. Get outta the way. I mean, there’s plenty of colored flags you can do and signal and show that can inform people, but counting seems to be hard.

Sevan Matossian (23:54):

Yeah. I mean, I, I hear a lot of athletes defending, defending the, um, athletes who came in a lap early, like, Hey, that shit’s hard. Like it was hard out there.

Travis Mayer (24:03):

Look, I I, I don’t know if I’ll defend any of ’em because I think you should be able to count. It’s not that hard. Um, I get in the moment you’re thinking and uncomfortable, but at the same time, it’s not like you’re counting to like 50 like, and you’re like, oh, 48 laps or was that 49? Like, that’s a different story. But when you’re only talking about a couple laps, I mean, you got a lot of time out there to think about how many laps you’re on.

Sevan Matossian (24:28):

<laugh>. Hey, it was 10 laps total, right? It was, it was, uh, five laps. You did five laps twice.

Travis Mayer (24:33):


Sevan Matossian (24:33):

How’d you do in that workout?

Travis Mayer (24:36):

Uh, not that great. Come on man. That was the whole point we were talking about. It wasn’t, it wasn’t off to a good start. Geez. He was 32nd on that one. Yeah, it wasn’t, no, I think that was probably one of my worst finishes at the games I’ve ever had. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (24:51):


Travis Mayer (24:51):

What a good feeling.

Sevan Matossian (24:53):

And, um, is the plan this year to go to the games. Travis, are are you, are you in the, in the

Travis Mayer (24:57):

I’m not masters or anything. Get outta here. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (24:59):

How, how old are you?

Travis Mayer (25:00):


Sevan Matossian (25:01):

32. So, so you are, you’re, you’re you’re on another run again.

Travis Mayer (25:05):


Sevan Matossian (25:06):

And, um, do, have you had a conversation with, uh, your wife about, uh, retiring?

Travis Mayer (25:11):


Sevan Matossian (25:11):

You have mm-hmm. <affirmative> every year. Is it like a, a common conversation, <laugh>? When did that start?

Travis Mayer (25:17):

No, I’d say probably more so this year just in the discussion of just like, how much longer do you want to do when I think it’ll come down to when I feel like I take away from my family and not able to spend time with them. Now that my kids are getting older, getting into sports, doing those things, I want to be there and support them. So, I mean, but I also, I’m not gonna say it’s gonna be this year or then be like, oh, it’ll be next year. I don’t think putting that out there and making it the final one. Cuz if I have a great year and I’m like, well maybe we’ll do one more, then I think you make that push. I think it’s the whole kind of like Tom Brady situation. Like, okay, well I’ll stop and this is it and then nah, I’m not done. And then you go back again. You know, like I’d rather not make a big point of it. If I get to the point when it’s time, then I’ll step back and I’ll know when that time’s right for myself. So that’s probably the more important part than making some big announcement about it.

Sevan Matossian (26:15):

And she’s crazy supportive. Right. I, I heard you tell the story about going to Madrid and she’s, she sounds like she’s crazy supportive.

Travis Mayer (26:21):

Yeah. So any sort of competition stuff, I usually feel worse than I feel like she does. Uh, <laugh>. Cuz even for like waap Puso, we’re going down, I’m going down tomorrow and I’m like, are you okay with like me going down tomorrow? Cuz like, we don’t go till Saturday essentially and compete. Um, but Tuesday we have some stuff happening down there. But then, uh, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, uh, myself, Noah and Chandler will all get some actual team training in which will actually be, uh, fun to get together with. So yeah, no, extremely supportive. Pushes me, challenges me a lot.

Sevan Matossian (26:53):

How old are the boys?

Travis Mayer (26:55):

Uh, the oldest is seven, then five, then three, and then the girl is about to be two next month.

Sevan Matossian (27:01):

I don’t think people who don’t have kids have any idea how crazy it is in your house.

Travis Mayer (27:06):

Uh, <laugh> I don’t think anybody has an understanding of that unless you have four kids. Um,

Sevan Matossian (27:12):

But three boys. I have three boys in it is, it is straight chaos.

Travis Mayer (27:17):

Yeah. So then you add a little girl to that. Yeah. Uh, just, and then she likes to level it up too cuz then she wants to run and hit and sees them fight and wrestle. So then she wants to do it. Uh, so it’s, uh, it’s interesting and then screams, but it’s just a higher pitch. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (27:36):

Yeah. The wrestling’s outta control, right?

Travis Mayer (27:38):

Yeah. The two, the kit, the little one with his boots on the wood in the middle Kia. He’s the little one that will, he goes for it. He takes ’em all down.

Sevan Matossian (27:48):

<laugh>. Oh yeah. The wrestling is just, my kids are in full blown wrestling mode and my wife showed them karate kid last night,

Travis Mayer (27:55):

<laugh>. Oh, like the original.

Sevan Matossian (27:56):

Oh my God. It was two hours of karate kicks in, like sound effects <laugh> dragon kicks or whatever that thing he does at the end. I was like, oh, that was a huge mistake.

Travis Mayer (28:07):

Oh, did they, did they attempt to do it? The

Sevan Matossian (28:09):

Standup? Oh yeah. They’re all posted up. One of my kids told me he knows karate now. It was, I was like, you don’t know shit.

Travis Mayer (28:16):

Yeah, but I feel like you have ’em in Jiujitsu and stuff. So they, I feel like they’re comfortable enough with rolling around and kind of sparring ish. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (28:23):

Yeah. They’re very comfortable. But the, it’s exactly like you said. There’s so much screaming and yelling and sound effects and running through the house. The fight doesn’t stay in one room, it’s just Nope.

Travis Mayer (28:34):


Sevan Matossian (28:35):

The pillows flying

Travis Mayer (28:36):

Downstairs, then you hear. And I was like, well that’s someone down the stairs.

Sevan Matossian (28:41):

<laugh>. Hey, have you been to the emergency room yet?

Travis Mayer (28:44):

Surprisingly, no. Knock on.

Sevan Matossian (28:45):

Yeah. A good job. Awesome. Yeah. That’s cool.

Travis Mayer (28:48):

Well, not the emergency room, but I did, our son, our oldest one when he was in daycare at one point, I mean at this point he had to be, I don’t know, four, he put a popcorn kernel in his ear. Uh, so we had to go get that like taken out. And I was like, what were you doing? He’s like, I don’t know, I just wanted to see if it could go in there. And I’ll say, well, it can, but now it doesn’t come out. So like the school calls us, they’re like, so your son’s fine, but uh, you’re gonna need to come get it. Like, I was like, what? And then you get there and look at it, you’re like, huh. I think the easiest thing honestly would’ve been though, would’ve been to put a vacuum and just suck it out. Oh. Like when we went to the urgent care, they actually pushed it further. Oh. So we had to go to Children’s and then they had to have someone else actually do it. But I was like, you people, I was like, just put a vacuum to his ear and suck the thing out. Like it would’ve worked.

Sevan Matossian (29:36):

Hey, um, how did they eventually get it out? A doctor just used some,

Travis Mayer (29:40):

Yeah. This like, like little tool that had a hook on it and super small. Got it around the top of his ear and kind of just like finagle it all the way out. Um,

Sevan Matossian (29:48):

And they were like, here you go. Yeah. But the, here’s, here’s the, here’s the nel

Travis Mayer (29:53):

On a napkin. Here you go. Or a little paper towel. But here it is.

Sevan Matossian (29:57):

Uh, hey, that, that really.

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