Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. We’re live. Why is it starting with Dave? I’m the one who says, bam, we’re live.

Dave Castro (00:04):

I didn’t, I didn’t even know you were going live. You got <laugh>. I told him, let’s go live.

Sevan Matossian (00:08):

Start with me. Uh, Dave too. Dave’s not too loud. Am I too loud in your ear, Dave?

Dave Castro (00:13):

No, you’re good. How do I keep this close to my mouth and drink my coffee?

Sevan Matossian (00:17):

Oh, that, that’s a good, good question. Million dollar question. First hurdle, um, Suza take notes of like,

Dave Castro (00:22):

That’s right. That’s why you need one of those mics that you have for me.

Sevan Matossian (00:26):

Obstacles with the studio. Well, I don’t do, uh, in-person interviews.

Dave Castro (00:29):

We do now.

Sevan Matossian (00:31):

And so, uh, I spent the last, uh, I spent 10 hours setting all this up. Why? Why do you insist going? Um,

Dave Castro (00:38):

Do we have anybody watching yet? Let’s wait until people start

Sevan Matossian (00:41):

Watching. Oh, they’re watching. This is the Savon podcast. This isn’t that rinky-dink shit you guys do over there. This is how time we go

Dave Castro (00:46):

Live. Wait, Bruce Swain just asked if I’m late. You’re not late. We’re just literally,

Sevan Matossian (00:51):

Uh, in, in all the years. I’ll tell you a story. In all the years that I worked with Dave, and you can ask anyone who knows him, uh, when he says, if he says, you have to be somewhere at 10:00 AM you have to get there at 9:45 AM Everyone knows that on time is late. And, uh, at three 15, I text him and I said, Hey, what’s up? And he goes, I I told you I’d be there. Oh, I’m gonna actually read you the exact text. Maybe. Hold on.

Dave Castro (01:16):


Sevan Matossian (01:17):

I said, what’s up status? He said, I told you 4:00 PM I said, oh, I know. And then I, and then I called him and he’s like, are, are you coming? He goes, yeah, I told you I have a haircut. I’ll be there at four 30. He’s really not the same Dave that I used to know. I’m telling you it’s

Dave Castro (01:33):

The same. The only question I have, did you purposely put these up for the behind me or were those there already? Those

Sevan Matossian (01:39):

Were there already. Those are, uh,

Dave Castro (01:41):

Talk to me about them. Tell

Sevan Matossian (01:42):

Me about ’em. That’s an artist. Uh, the Instagram account’s called Alpha Channeling has 1.5 million. Uh, I

Dave Castro (01:49):

Don’t care about the 1.5 million

Sevan Matossian (01:50):

Followers. It’s an artist out of San Francisco. Those are the most benign of, of his artwork. And, uh, Greg bought those for me. Those are originals.

Dave Castro (01:59):

Originals, how much?

Sevan Matossian (02:01):

I don’t know. 12 grand a piece.

Dave Castro (02:03):

No. Come on, <laugh>. No,

Sevan Matossian (02:04):

I <laugh>.

Dave Castro (02:07):

It’s very, yeah, I could see Greg buying that for you.

Sevan Matossian (02:10):

You got a haircut?

Dave Castro (02:11):

I did, I did.

Sevan Matossian (02:13):

Jonna seven by 88. Uh, that is, those are the millimeters of your organ. Uh, uh, thank you. T d tdc. Let’s fucking go to,

Dave Castro (02:23):

So, so what’s that stuff on the left that just popped up there?

Sevan Matossian (02:28):


Dave Castro (02:28):

So I saw that Jonna, it popped up on the left. See right there? So what’s that Lucky camera straps? Those are public. Everyone’s seeing that.

Sevan Matossian (02:34):

Yeah. So that guy is in Australia. He gave

Dave Castro (02:37):

You 30

Sevan Matossian (02:37):

Bucks. $31. So

Dave Castro (02:39):

15 <laugh>. Come on. Come on.

Sevan Matossian (02:43):

Uh, you didn’t even bring me a coffee.

Dave Castro (02:46):

So, and then the stuff on the right. Do people see that too?

Sevan Matossian (02:49):

No. Uh, yes. Those, so those people are the two little camera angles.

Dave Castro (02:53):

T TDC with jacket on for quick exit. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (02:56):

Hey, it’s, it’s funny, someone said that I was, was actually thinking, cuz when we, if we talk on the phone when he gets off the phone, that’s how it is. I’ll just, he’ll ask me a question. I’ll think, oh, this is important. And I’ll be mid-story. I haven’t even got to the, you know, climax of the story yet. And he’s like, uh, wife just called me for dinner. Bye

Dave Castro (03:13):

<laugh>. And

Sevan Matossian (03:14):

That’s it. It’s over.

Dave Castro (03:16):

So how many people are watching right now? Like 10, 20?

Sevan Matossian (03:18):

Uh, 152. Okay,

Dave Castro (03:20):

That’s good.

Sevan Matossian (03:20):

Yeah, that is good. That’s a good show. And we don’t normally do a 4:00 PM show. Uh, Katie, thank you. Thrilled TDC is here. Thank you. Me too. I’m excited. I’m, uh, freaking out cuz we’re, um,

Dave Castro (03:32):

I, I, I like, so let’s talk about that. Here’s what I don’t, okay, that’s better. Like, why are we not, why am I looking at the screen and not looking at you?

Sevan Matossian (03:41):

Because that’s where the comments are.

Dave Castro (03:43):

Okay. I want to be looking at you. I want you looking at me.

Sevan Matossian (03:46):

Right? We’re working on it. Okay.

Dave Castro (03:48):

We’re, we’re, we’re. It’s a work in

Sevan Matossian (03:49):

Progress. Work in progress. And over there I was thinking about putting a TV screen.

Dave Castro (03:52):

That would be cool. Yeah. Or, you know, you could do twos. You could,

Sevan Matossian (03:54):

Does that mean you’re coming back? Let’s just

Dave Castro (03:56):

The screen behind me so I could be looking at you and look at the comments and a screen behind, a screen behind you and a screen behind me.

Sevan Matossian (04:03):

Wow. Or I could have another screen on the table here. What Susie was thinking. True. True. Are you okay with that computer there?

Dave Castro (04:08):

Yeah. I don’t, I don’t mind it. But I, if I, if I was looking at you and then just looking past you,

Sevan Matossian (04:13):

Let me give you a little tutorial. So the reason why we put a computer in front of you is if you wanted to, if someone asked you,

Dave Castro (04:19):

Zombie thank you for the money.

Sevan Matossian (04:20):

If, um, if someone, uh, if, if someone asked you a question and you wanted to pull up the question, what are you doing? You’re not supposed to touch shit. Okay. Yeah. You can touch that shit. Yeah. Look at you while zombie. Look at Jesus. See what we have there. <laugh>, if you wanted to pull up a question, Dave, you could click on any of those questions. What

Dave Castro (04:39):

Is this? This isn’t real. It is. Feels, no, not real. What

Sevan Matossian (04:43):

Is it? No. Greg got mad at me for buying that. Let me see. It’s a, um, it’s a,

Dave Castro (04:49):

I’m gonna spend this whole show just going through your shit.

Sevan Matossian (04:51):

It’s a, it’s a replica. And he told me, Hey, you’re crazy to buy a replica.

Dave Castro (04:54):

It is definitely a replica

Sevan Matossian (04:56):

Because if a cop sees that, uh,

Dave Castro (04:58):

Yeah. I mean, this seed gets shot if he pulls this out.

Sevan Matossian (05:00):

<laugh>. Yeah. I bought it for my kids. He’s like, do not give that to you.

Dave Castro (05:02):

No. This isn’t a kid’s

Sevan Matossian (05:03):

Toy. Yeah. Well, what do I know? I don’t know.

Dave Castro (05:05):

Shit’s not much

Sevan Matossian (05:06):

Apparently. Uh, Clyde Dale Media. Scott Schweitzer always good to hear from the Dave Castro. Savan has locked. So look at that. Look at Dave. What are these? Here. Practice this really quick, Dave. Yeah. Um, use the mouse pad and bring up that comment by Daniel Gerdy. It’s right below the yellow one and click on it. So if you see a comment up there.

Dave Castro (05:25):

So I want you to see what I see. Come here. And you see what I see? Look at, see, this is right in the way of that comment.

Sevan Matossian (05:31):

Oh, just click anywhere. Just click anywhere. Okay. That’ll go away. Click, click there and

Dave Castro (05:35):

That’ll go away. Philip. Philip. Ah, okay. It’s great meeting at Diablo CrossFit when you announce your turn. Thanks, Philip.

Sevan Matossian (05:41):

Oh, you missed Daniel Gertie’s comment. It was, uh, s’s already lost. And then you can scroll back in the comments too. You can use two fingers to scroll and you can scroll

Dave Castro (05:50):

Backwards. Question, did you beat Don at the Spartan race? I did, but I’m not gonna claim it as a victory because he was running with his wife and they did it together and they didn’t race. So, um,

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

You’re saying but his wife’s a track athlete.

Dave Castro (06:03):

Yeah, but they, they didn’t run it that way. So she’s a former track athlete. They just, they just did it. And so, but I went for it. I like, I fucking pushed. And so, but I don’t claim the victory. He, he tried giving me the victory, but I’m not gonna It’s zero zero. Still.

Sevan Matossian (06:16):


Dave Castro (06:17):

Is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I still need to beat him in a Spartan race. That was not, I did not beat him in a

Sevan Matossian (06:21):

Spartan race. You guys are keeping score.

Dave Castro (06:22):

Uh, I don’t know if he is, but Sure.

Sevan Matossian (06:25):

<laugh>, how do you like having a, um, uh, fellow mill guy in the company? This is the first time in your 15 years working here where someone’s senior than you as a military guy. Any issues with that?

Dave Castro (06:38):

Alexis Raps?

Sevan Matossian (06:39):

Yeah. Crossword games athlete. She’s coming. She’s coming. Is she coming on the show Suza soon?

Dave Castro (06:45):

I don’t know her. Emily. I know Emily Rolfe. Yep. There you go. She’ll on he selling these things.

Sevan Matossian (06:50):

Yeah, he sells those

Dave Castro (06:52):

Uhno. Another Alexis raps.

Sevan Matossian (06:53):

Rory Marlow. God, I gotta have you on more often. Is this the first of the Castro couch pepper, uh, casting couch series? We’ll, see, I would not do an in-person show.

Dave Castro (07:02):

This is your boy right down Pepper. How do I know

Sevan Matossian (07:03):

That name? Yeah. I like him. He’s one of my boys.

Dave Castro (07:05):

Yeah. No, but he’s on your show a lot.

Sevan Matossian (07:07):

He’s been on a couple times.

Dave Castro (07:08):


Sevan Matossian (07:09):

He’s been on a lot. That’s my boy. That’s

Dave Castro (07:11):

Your boy. Why? Why do you have so many duplicates?

Sevan Matossian (07:12):

You love Pat Vener. You can have that Pep Venner

Dave Castro (07:14):

One. Who is this one?

Sevan Matossian (07:15):

That’s, that’s

Dave Castro (07:16):

The girl. Danielle. Brandon. And then you got Jason Hopper.

Sevan Matossian (07:22):

Jason Hopper. That’s, uh, Matt’s, uh, uh, project. Matt Fraser’s project.

Dave Castro (07:27):

And Colton, he’s your boy.

Sevan Matossian (07:29):

Colton’s my boy.

Dave Castro (07:30):

So let me ask, who’s the wad? Zombie? He makes these right? Is this your sticker? That’s

Sevan Matossian (07:34):

For you.

Dave Castro (07:35):

Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (07:35):

Hey, did uh, did you get one of these?

Dave Castro (07:38):

Uh, uh, yeah. No. I don’t know. I get so much shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did. From, uh, chase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, what’s the deal with these? He sells these. What do you do with these?

Sevan Matossian (07:50):

Yeah, what do you do? I think those are 10. I think those are $10 each.

Dave Castro (07:54):

Is he he’s on here, right? I saw, I thought I saw him. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (07:56):

Someone already said seven on. You’ve lost control of the show. I want to tell you. That is 100%.

Dave Castro (08:02):

So here’s the deal, guys. Go support Wad Zombie and, and pick these up if you’re, if you’re a fan of the sport. Pretty cool. Little cards. Do they come in this?

Sevan Matossian (08:10):

They come, uh, did you see ’em wrapped in? Yeah, they come like that wrapped in that plastic like that. And then with one of those little stands,

Dave Castro (08:16):

The one Oh, he sent me stickers. That’s what he sent me. He sent me stickers.

Sevan Matossian (08:20):

He has your home address?

Dave Castro (08:21):

No, to the ranch.

Sevan Matossian (08:22):

Oh, <laugh>. <laugh>. Stop looking around at my shit, please.

Dave Castro (08:28):

Um, there he is. What

Sevan Matossian (08:30):

Zombie You’re making me? Uh, uncomfortable Savon. Give him a shirt.

Dave Castro (08:34):

Look at the Con Porter one.

Sevan Matossian (08:35):

Oh, there it is. Yeah,

Dave Castro (08:36):

That’s good. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (08:37):

That’s good. The Con porter is, uh, um, look at this one. This Colton Merton sticker. <laugh>. That’s amazing. Right? That’s sacrilege.

Dave Castro (08:44):

Oh, that is crazy. Hold on, let me wait, wait, where do we go? Yeah, there we go. That’s funny.

Sevan Matossian (08:49):

And, uh, here’s the com porter ones. Uh, almost, it’s a little too, it’s too much for me. It’s too provocative. Like, I wanna, I want to like,

Dave Castro (08:58):

Oh, I thought this was the other dude at first. I thought this was, uh, his, his his partner, uh, Newberry Cuz of the hair. Like when I first looked at it, I thought it was Ja. James Newberry.

Sevan Matossian (09:07):

James Newberry.

Dave Castro (09:08):

Yeah, but you’re right, it is. Does k is Khan’s hair that long now?

Sevan Matossian (09:12):

I think so. I think it’s always been long. And look at, look at Brian. Look Brian Friend even got a sticker. If that <laugh>. I dare you.

Dave Castro (09:19):

Hold on. I’m gonna try. I dare you. Is it a, it’s a sticker, right? Yeah. I dare you. Oh, that’s the problem. I think the stickers that he sent me might have been a version one. Cuz I tried putting the Danielle Brandon sticker on my gun.

Sevan Matossian (09:31):

On your ceiling?

Dave Castro (09:32):

No, on my gun. Oh, <laugh>. And, uh, it, it wouldn’t peel off like this. So, um, wad zombie. I think the stickers you sent me weren’t, um, weren’t good stickers.

Sevan Matossian (09:44):

How much is that jacket?

Dave Castro (09:46):


Sevan Matossian (09:48):


Dave Castro (09:48):

I don’t remember. No, not that much. These guys are outta California.

Sevan Matossian (09:51):

I know. They’re, it’s expensive

Dave Castro (09:52):

Outta Davis Hunting. Hunting the only, I love this comment. Let me highlight, can I click on it to highlight?

Sevan Matossian (09:58):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dave Castro (09:58):

Please, please. The only time Dave has looked up to Sev

Sevan Matossian (10:01):

Yeah. So that someone was like, holy shit. The couches. Just so you know, Dave is six feet tall and I’m five foot five. That is a, for those of you who aren’t good at Matt, that’s a seven inch difference.

Dave Castro (10:09):

Let’s talk about what’s going on.

Sevan Matossian (10:11):

Uh, just in the world.

Dave Castro (10:12):

No, no, no. Well, we can do that in a minute, but like, just the format. Why, why this?

Sevan Matossian (10:17):

So, uh, I I used to work at CrossFit Inc. I had a podcast there for, uh, a hundred episodes. I can’t remember how long. Just short of a year. Uh, then I, I departed from CrossFit. I was let go. My position wasn’t needed anymore. I think that was the exact words. And then I was four years for what? Ten four. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. <laugh>, right? Hey, and it’s been a year since you were laid off. That’s crazy.

Dave Castro (10:41):

Jan four,

Sevan Matossian (10:42):

The one year anniversary.

Dave Castro (10:43):

Today is, today is the one year anniversary.

Sevan Matossian (10:46):

Welcome back. Cheers buddy. Cheers. Cheers. I’m coming back at my four year anniversary.

Dave Castro (10:52):

<laugh>. Is that, was that a text to me from Haley or to you?

Sevan Matossian (10:57):

What do you mean?

Dave Castro (10:58):

Did you just see a text pop cross your screen? I just

Sevan Matossian (11:00):

Did. Oh, that’s fucked up. You can see Good text <laugh>. That is fucked up. That

Dave Castro (11:05):

Is fucked up. Ah, I think it was, to me,

Sevan Matossian (11:07):

You look handsome

Dave Castro (11:09):

<laugh>. It’s fucked up. Let me check my, that was to me, wasn’t it? That is,

Sevan Matossian (11:15):

Hey, SU, come here a second. <laugh>. Are you the executive fucking producer of the show? Put that on the checklist. Turn off your fucking, uh, iMessage motherfucker. Got it. Got it. Thank you. Do not to disturb

Dave Castro (11:26):

Mode. Do not to disturb mode. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (11:29):

My goodness gracious. So then keep going. So then I was basically just, I I I was just fo I, I started the Three Plain Brother stuff. I made hundreds of videos with the boys. And, um, you had reached out to me and you had said something, by the way, I gave you that Road Cup on purpose. And, uh, you had reached out to me and said, Hey dude, you need to start the podcast. And that was around the same time when, uh, Suza was telling me I need to start a podcast. And I didn’t know Susan and I knew you. I mean, I, I knew of Suza. And so then you, then you basically, uh, pu pushed, you really pushed it on me. You just, you just came out to my house. No, no, you just said, Hey, come out to the ranch and bring your camera. So I’m like, okay. I did a podcast. It was in person. I did another one, I think with Jason k Clea a couple weeks later. And then there was that lull. I didn’t do any shows for a while. Yep.


And then, um, and then Suza kept pushing and then, um, and then we just got up and running and, uh, the whole time you were like, Hey, it’s cool. Um, but you should go live. Yes. And I’m like, nah, I don’t need to go live. And you’re like, yeah, you need to go live. So you pushed me there. Uh, this is all true story, by the way. And I started going live. I hope so. And then, um, recently in the last, uh, three or four months, you’ve chirped me on texts or whatever, and you go, Hey, are you doing in person yet? And I’m like, no, I don’t need to. I’m killing it. And you’re like, you, I think that then recently, about a week ago, you said something to me along the lines like, Hey, I know you’re not lazy, but you’re clearly scared. And I think that that was a scared might not be accurate, but I was definitely out of my, uh, I didn’t want to, I didn’t wanna get outta my comfort zone

Dave Castro (13:03):

For sure.

Sevan Matossian (13:03):

Correct. And so then you’re like, oh, come on the show. I’m like, awesome. And I scheduled it, and then you’re like, but in person only. Yep. And I, and I looked, I’m like, fuck, he hasn’t been on in seven months. Uh, and I said, then I was like, fuck it, I’m gonna try it. And here

Dave Castro (13:19):

We are. So I did that. I, I decided to come on the show.

Sevan Matossian (13:22):

I hope you’re not gonna start telling me anything to be shirtless or anything Really

Dave Castro (13:25):

Fucked up to play, to play your hand, to make you do this in person. Yeah. Uh, I think this is the next evolution of your show and what you should be striving for. This, this setup is okay.

Sevan Matossian (13:36):

Yeah. It could,

Dave Castro (13:37):

We could, we could do some work on it, but, um,

Sevan Matossian (13:39):

Just the design needs to be fixed.

Dave Castro (13:40):

You’re not gonna be able to. Yeah. You’re, well, not, I’m not worried about that. I, I think this, we need to work on this.

Sevan Matossian (13:46):

What do you

Dave Castro (13:47):

Mean? This is especially me being lower than you.

Sevan Matossian (13:48):

Okay. Te tell me some things that we could fix that that wouldn’t be too expensive.

Dave Castro (13:52):

Well, anyway, so the thing is, um, you’re not gonna be able to do all your shows like this, obviously. But I think striving to do one or one a week or two a week in person, having a guest would be a huge step forward. You look at like, all these other big podcasts and Well, and actually both points. The going live and the in-person, you know, where I, you know why I was pushing for

Sevan Matossian (14:15):

That? No, tell me. I mean, you, you’ve, you’ve said to me, Hey, look at Mark Bell, look at Sean Ryan. You pointed out, look at Joe Rogan. But,

Dave Castro (14:21):

But Mark Bell in particular, so I was on his podcast, um, a number of years ago, and that was in person. And so I really, and you know, I’ve done a handful. I’ve done a few in person and a handful on Zoom, which I fucking hate doing. But, um,

Sevan Matossian (14:35):

You did one with me on Zoom, the last one.

Dave Castro (14:37):

Yeah. I’m not a fan, not a fan of doing him on Zoom with anyone. But anyways, did the one with Mark and I really enjoyed that. And, um, with Mark and what’s his partner’s name? Big dude. Yeah. Anyways, it was

Sevan Matossian (14:49):

Someone, someone will say in the comments

Dave Castro (14:51):

And on that show, when we were done, they made a comment, like, oh, something they said about, oh, well what, what’s the, what are the, what is, what are the comments? What are the comments saying? And I said, what do you mean comments? Like, did, like, did you guys just publish it? And they’re like, no, the show was live. And I was blown away by that. And I was actually kind of shocked because they didn’t tell, I didn’t know you could do podcasts like that at the time. And I didn’t. And they didn’t tell me that the show was gonna be live. Luckily I didn’t say anything, um, that I would’ve regretted. But that was my, that was the influence for why I told you you should go live. Because again, that was one of the things that takes you out of your comfort zone. Everyone who does not go live, there’s this power of editing that you can be a slave to. So you can go, you can be negligent, you can be irresponsible when you’re live. There’s, there’s an accountability that’s present that you have to, um, reco recognized throughout the

Sevan Matossian (15:51):

Show. Yeah. That, that’s, that’s, and that’s exactly what I was worried about.

Dave Castro (15:54):

Yeah. Yeah. Totally. I know.

Sevan Matossian (15:55):

I I you gotta be in the zone and free, but you also gotta be guarded.

Dave Castro (15:59):

Yes. Yeah. There, there’s a serious level of accountability to go on live.

Sevan Matossian (16:03):

What about, um, what about the podcast at a, uh, HQ that you guys have, the one that chased us. Do you think that will ever go live? Like, do you think that in the corporate environment, like obviously Joe Rogan only has to answer himself. I only have to answer myself. Mark Bell only has to answer himself. Chase works for a company, you know, uh, uh, representing basically 15,000 affiliates, right?

Dave Castro (16:22):

Absolutely. It should go live. And, and again, it’s gonna build for whoever’s hosting it or whoever’s on this, again, this discipline. And

Sevan Matossian (16:28):

What if he accidentally hits his wife on the show, <laugh>?

Dave Castro (16:32):

Well then he doesn’t have the discipline Right. To be hosting the show and shouldn’t be hosting the show. And that should be the end of him on the show. But there’s a, there’s a level of, uh, dialogue, professionalism, discipline in that dialogue and approach that comes with being live. That’s why I’m here. This is, this is to support you, but also I’m feeling a little rusty. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I need a little practice. We just,

Sevan Matossian (16:55):

Uh, so you’re using me

Dave Castro (16:56):

A little bit. I’m totally using

Sevan Matossian (16:58):

You. Um, I would’ve never

Dave Castro (16:59):

Worn Not for your audience, cuz your fucking audience is tiny. I love you guys. <laugh>. I don’t mean anything to you guys that, I mean to, that’s a jab. I am.

Sevan Matossian (17:07):

Uh, what what about, uh, like, I, I wouldn’t normally wear shoes in a show. I think this is the first show I can recall wearing shoes.

Dave Castro (17:14):

Yeah. Thank, thank you for wearing shoes. I would be, I wouldn’t be happy if you weren’t wearing shoes. Look at those thing here. Hand me one.

Sevan Matossian (17:21):

Vito Vitos Vitos. None of

Dave Castro (17:24):

These. I’ve had other,

Sevan Matossian (17:25):

I’ve had ’em for like a year and I’ve never worn ’em, but I was like, they’re kind, they’re

Dave Castro (17:28):

Pretty cool looking. They’re slippers. What do they call ’em? Ti Oh, the trench Foot pooch flat. That’s

Sevan Matossian (17:35):

Cool. Yeah. I’m pretty stoked. Now. What Whatcha

Dave Castro (17:37):

Whatcha wearing? ghost.com. What are you wearing all What do I have on? Oh, I have some Go Rocks.

Sevan Matossian (17:41):

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got those free.

Dave Castro (17:44):

I don’t think I’ve paid for a CrossFit shoe.

Sevan Matossian (17:48):

Not that’s a CrossFit shoe ever. That’s a CrossFit shoe ever.

Dave Castro (17:51):

Um, that’s not true. I’ve purchased a CrossFit shoe for gifts for friends, but I’ve never, um, for myself.

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

Do you have nanos still in the box?

Dave Castro (18:02):

Yeah, actually trying to get, I, uh, Rory just sent me, I saw the new Froning and I asked him to send me a couple of the new Froning. Um, I should because they weren’t out. So I did ask him and he sent me a couple pair. I actually don’t know if he did send me the Froning. I think he sent me just Reebok.

Sevan Matossian (18:17):

Um, that’s, but

Dave Castro (18:18):

They’re cool. I like

Sevan Matossian (18:18):

Them. I can’t see you doing that, asking for free stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:21):


Dave Castro (18:22):

I couldn’t because, because the Froning you couldn’t find online. So I said, Hey, can you send me a set of the Froning?

Sevan Matossian (18:28):

When’s the last time you talked to Rich?

Dave Castro (18:31):

A few, uh, about a week ago. About a week and a half, two weeks ago. He needs to get back to me. Actually, I asked him for a favor.

Sevan Matossian (18:37):

What’s that?

Dave Castro (18:38):

To, to come with me to a certain event.

Sevan Matossian (18:41):

A shooting event.

Dave Castro (18:42):

Not a shooting event. An Army event.

Sevan Matossian (18:44):

Oh, I wanted to ask you about the Army. Tell, uh, what’s going on with CrossFit in the Army? I, I, I know a few months ago you guys announced that if you’re in the Army and you I I is that you or me? That’s me. I know, I know you, I know you guys announced a few months ago that if you’re in the Army, you can um, you can get your, uh, the Army will pay for your level one.

Dave Castro (19:07):

Yes. That, that’s part, uh, program called Army Ignited. And basically it was a way for soldiers who were interested in the level one to have it, um, to have the Army pay

Sevan Matossian (19:17):

For it. So anyone in the Army can take the level one. They can apply for it, take the level one, and, and the US Army will pay for

Dave Castro (19:26):

It. But they have to work through this army ignited program to get, and I think there’s been some obstacles with it. You know, typical big programs like that.

Sevan Matossian (19:34):

Well, we had a bunch of listeners say that it was no problem. And they did it. That’s in ours. Awesome. Small little audience in our small little

Dave Castro (19:39):

Audience. <laugh>. Um, it’s a great, it’s a great initiative. I really hope and wish we can scale that across all branches of the military. Have something similar for the Navy Air Force.

Sevan Matossian (19:49):

Why army? Your Navy guy. Why would the Navy pick it up?

Dave Castro (19:52):

I didn’t set that up.

Sevan Matossian (19:55):

You didn’t set it up? What?

Dave Castro (19:57):

That was an initiative that I think I wasn’t even around when they started working on it. And, uh, the training team made that happen. I don’t know. I don’t know the history behind it, but super cool. It’s a good program. Wish we had the same thing for all branches. Corey,

Sevan Matossian (20:09):


Speaker 3 (20:11):

Hey everybody. Hey Dave. Good to see you.

Dave Castro (20:14):

Hey Corey. We have call-ins on this. Yep. Bro. I didn’t think that was in the contract. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (20:20):

Go ahead Corey. You have some balls calling in.

Speaker 3 (20:24):

Uh, just doing what I do. Yep. So I have a, I have a suggestion for, um, you know, the podcast seven on podcast 2.0. If you’re talking about doing live call-ins and bringing people in, um, why can’t you rent out a space? I mean, cause I’ve, I have a business at my house, but one concern has always been bringing strangers to my home. So I like the idea of face-to-face podcast interviews, but could you potentially run outta space? Is is this Dave saying he wants to partner with you and, uh, go in on running outta space so you can bring in live guests?

Sevan Matossian (21:00):

Uh, Dave,

Dave Castro (21:01):

This is not Dave saying he wants to partner with Sev and go in on his face. Uh, before we, before we would do that, we’d go to the ranch,

Sevan Matossian (21:09):


Dave Castro (21:10):

Yeah. So if we needed a space, we could use the ranch before, um, partnering. But this isn’t also a we thing. This is Savons thing. I kind of just given ’em a little kick to, to do this format.

Sevan Matossian (21:20):

Little push down the hill. Uh, this, this room is just adjacent to my house. Basically that wall behind me right there, uh, shares with the kids’, uh, jiujitsu room playroom. So I like being here if it’s only one day a week. That being said, California Hormones has offered me to build me out a studio, uh, to do live shows. If I move to, uh, Newport, it’s the endless support that we’ve gotten, uh, from California Hormones. Michael C the new camera angles look like soft porn studio <laugh>. Hey, this is all stuff I just had around, like, that’s just an old web camera. I like, uh, Susan told you guys last week, it’s like a radio shack in here. It is like a radio shack in

Dave Castro (21:57):

Here. You you nailed the

Sevan Matossian (21:58):

Lighting. Thank you.

Dave Castro (21:59):

Yeah. You, you nailed the lighting. That’s about it. But tell me about Newport and your podcast. You’re gonna leave us?

Sevan Matossian (22:05):

No. Uh, I don’t know. You should

Dave Castro (22:07):

Fucking, fucking fly. Little bird. Fly.

Sevan Matossian (22:10):

H how far do you live? For me? I always tell people you live 11 miles south of

Dave Castro (22:13):

Me. I would say 25 to 30 minutes south of you. I wouldn’t say it in miles.

Sevan Matossian (22:17):

Okay. Uh, thank you Corey, for hanging up on yourself. I appreciate it. <laugh>. Uh, it’s been seven or eight months since you’ve been on the show.

Dave Castro (22:25):

Has it been that long?

Sevan Matossian (22:26):

Yeah. June, June. June of, uh, 2022.

Dave Castro (22:31):

I really don’t like doing these.

Sevan Matossian (22:33):

The podcast?

Dave Castro (22:34):

Yeah. In general. Not yours. Just in general.

Sevan Matossian (22:37):

So when you committed to it, then afterwards on the way here, you were like, oh fuck, I don’t, I’d rather just go home and just hang out with my kids and my family.

Dave Castro (22:45):

No, no, no. Not for this one because I committed to it. And, and this, this is a win. You doing, um, this in person, that was the goal. Yeah. And it, this really accelerated that happening. If I wouldn’t have said, Hey, I’ll do it with you this week, and only if we do it in person. You wouldn’t have done this for another two months.

Sevan Matossian (23:02):

Two, two months.

Dave Castro (23:03):


Sevan Matossian (23:04):

Two years. Um, can you pull up this, uh, um, first clip here? Uh, Mr. Suza. The, um, n not not the YouTube video, but the, uh, the Instagram clip. Oh, that, well, that’s the one, that’s the clip. That’s the clip from, uh, from that was our last, uh, podcast. Yeah, you can go ahead and pull that up. That’s Dave. I don’t know where he was at. There. Ranch. Look at this guy. Luis Lemos.

Dave Castro (23:30):

Damn. He gave me $50.

Sevan Matossian (23:32):

That’s crazy. A hundred bucks. Thank you, Luis. Thank you. Okay. Maybe we will rent a space. Holy cow. Uh, Austin Hartman. I’ve got plenty of room at my house for five Matossian. You’re a good dude. So here’s the last time Dave was on. Uh, that’s where he’s due. That’s is it, is that the exact place, uh, you sit for the Dave Castro weekly review?

Dave Castro (23:53):

Yeah, I sh now I, I bounced from that position to one that’s about four, four or five feet over.

Sevan Matossian (23:57):

How’s that going? You enjoying doing that?

Dave Castro (23:59):

Yeah, it’s, again, it’s kind of like this. It’s, uh, that one’s more about the discipline of doing it and more about forcing myself to get out there. That’s also why I’m doing this. Just kind of like, again, I told you I wanted to practice. I don’t do this that often. Um, so I wanted to just take me out, take my, take me outta my comfort zone and

Sevan Matossian (24:19):

Practice. Well, you seem pretty comfortable. You’ve taken over the show, <laugh>. Oh, you want me to show Dave the intro? I’ll show Dave the intro to my commercial, uh, in a second. We, we’ll get there. Thank you for the reminder. If I, if I forget to show ’em, uh, Kenneth, uh, let me know. And then, um, uh, I, I wanted to show you this. Go back to like the, the old days. I saw that they played nasty girls on uh, dot com the other day. That’s cool. Do you remember, um, where you, do you remember the first time you saw this had, were you doing CrossFit yet when you saw this?

Dave Castro (24:46):

When I saw that I was not doing CrossFit. You gotta remember when I started, I, I was introduced to CrossFit by Mark Dwight on a climbing trip to Yosemite. And on that trip I had read Mark Dwight’s books, extreme Alpinism. And um, I think, what was the other one? Uh, I forgot. But Extreme Alpinism. And at the time it was like the training guide for that type of climbing for lightweight alpinism, which I, I was a big climber and I related that to the type of stuff we were doing in Afghanistan, having to be light and move quickly. And so as a climber and as a sailor soldier, I really, uh, took to his training methods and methodology and everything he wrote about Suza, pull up extreme alpinism, Google it and like show it. Everything he talked about in that book was l s D training. Long, slow distance. He would go for two hour hikes, two hour runs, four hour bike rides. And so I was like, okay, this is the way I have to train for this stuff. He is an icon in the climbing world. And um, I, again, I was big into climbing, so I set up a climbing trip to Yosemite with our team. And he,

Sevan Matossian (25:57):

When you say your team, what do you mean? Yeah,

Dave Castro (25:59):

That’s the book right there. The team I was working with, the team. I was on the group of climbers that, um, represented our

Sevan Matossian (26:05):

Group. And were you in the military at this time?

Dave Castro (26:07):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I set up a trip to Yosemite and Mark, um, he brought out this world class fucking list of a who’s who of Alpinist at the time. Vince Anderson, Steve House. Actually. Vince and Steve were on the trip to Mount Hood. Uh oh. Orlando got Aboe. Uh, who else? Just this who’s who of climbers. And so I was as a massive climbing fan, just blown away. Anyway, so we were climbing in Yosemite. We’d go out, I was paired up with Orlando and we would do some ascents. We’d come back to this cabin in the evening. And I remember this and I said to Mark, I said, said, Hey, so talk to me about your training and extreme Alpinism and the L S D stuff and how you approach it. And I’ll never forget this cuz it’s changed my life. He says, I don’t do that anymore. I go, what do you do? And he goes, I do CrossFit. And I go, what the fuck’s CrossFit? And he goes, CrossFit’s this program of high intensity movements, um, that Greg Glassman out of Santa Cruz created and it has their barbell and pullups. And he started talking all that stuff. And I was like, wow.

Sevan Matossian (27:10):

Were you tripping that it was Santa Cruz and you were so close to it?

Dave Castro (27:13):

Uh, well at the time I stationed in Virginia, but we, we were in Yosemite. I, that didn’t register at all, but, um, mark is not a big dude. So Mark is a little guy. I, I don’t know, he’s probably 5 6, 5 7, 1 45, 1 50. I could be wrong. And I was like, I’m a small guy relative to all the people I ran with at the time. Like I was a small seal, um, six foot tall, 170 probably at the time, 1 75 since I was really into climbing and endurance stuff. And so I couldn’t picture myself being any smaller. I saw Mark twt as this representation of CrossFit at that time, cuz he was the one who introduced it to me. So I was very skeptical of it. And I’m like, all right, well that’s cool. But um, um, that’s probably, yeah, there’s a picture of Mark. Oh, oh, click on that one. Yeah, right there. Yeah. So I don’t know how big the dude is on the right. He looks fucking big. What’s that dude’s name? Um,

Sevan Matossian (28:09):

That’s a, that’s Aquaman.

Dave Castro (28:11):

Yeah, it’s Aquaman. But anyways, so, um, then I went back after that trip and started researching and studying CrossFit and for like the next 4, 5, 6 months. I never tried CrossFit, but I watched all the videos, read, um, read the journal, just immersed myself in educating, educating myself on the world of CrossFit. And so when I saw that video, it was for sure prior to, uh, me having done CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (28:44):

Do you remember the impact it had on you?

Dave Castro (28:47):

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was blown away cuz at the time, the muscle ups, I couldn’t do the, um, what else did it cl The air squats were so fast. Um, the cleans didn’t think much of that. But you know, it’s interesting. I’ll say I didn’t think much of that. I didn’t, I wasn’t, uh, I knew no Olympic lifts. Right, right. So, and in the military nobody was doing this shit? No. At that time, oh, at least with all the people I was ever around, you were either doing body building or body building stuff and or endurance stuff like

Sevan Matossian (29:15):


Dave Castro (29:16):

Stuff. Yeah. But very few guys were doing Olympic lifting or power lifting. There, there was a handful. But this style of training definitely wasn’t popular. So, um,

Sevan Matossian (29:28):

Yeah, it’s cool. Well, it’s cool to see it back on the front end. And this video, obviously, I, I think this was a hugely impactful video. Maybe one of the most impactful

Dave Castro (29:36):

Ever. Someone said, Dave, what’s your view on Dave Goggins? So a few days ago, someone on my, um, weekend review on my YouTube channel said, what did they say? Well, let me even back up. Yeah, I got it in here too. A week ago, Goggins was on Rogan and Goggins said that there was a seal who was attacking.

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