#731 – Kerstetter & Panchik | GAME ON

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam. We’re lying. Bam. Good morning guys. And it begins the stretch to Waap. Polooza. Oh, Audrey, the Shez, Kev, Jessica, Kyle Vindicate. Hey, you guys probably saw last night, Monday night. Football guy falls down on the field. Twitter lights up, Instagram lights up. Everyone’s showing the videos. Here it is right here. Uh, the guy’s name I think is DeMar Hamlin. And, uh, it’s, I think, I think it’s it’s Is it the Bengal player? No, Buffalo Bills player. It’s one of the guys in the white, white, white outfit. The

Caleb Beaver (00:45):

White Jersey. The guy on the, this guy

Sevan Matossian (00:47):

Right here. Yeah. And, uh, he stands up, sorry for the stutter, and then he goes straight to his back. Here’s the thing, a lot of people are referring to this as a, uh, that there was a collision on his chest and the timing was perfect and it was something that, that, you know, that’s pretty common. Where you, you, you hit the ribcage, it impacts the heart right at the right minute and it stops the heart. There’s a name for it. Do you, do you know the name for it? Caleb? I think you’re the one who maybe who shared it with me.

Caleb Beaver (01:29):

Kamoha Cordes.

Sevan Matossian (01:30):

Kumo Cordes.

Caleb Beaver (01:32):


Sevan Matossian (01:32):

Cortis. Commotio Cortis. The problem is this, uh, you know, just for an example, we’ve never seen, um, anyone go down at the CrossFit games from clotting and, uh, you know, this year we have two, and then we’ve never seen this in the N F L. And when I say never, I’m just saying what the commentators were saying last night. They, um, two guys kept saying, we’ve never seen this. And one guy’s like, well, we saw it, but it was a long time ago. And when you’re not, uh, when you’re not transparent about what we’ve gone through in the past two years, uh, it’s totally, um, our call at that point to start, uh, you know, saying whatever we want. So for the people who are freaking out and name calling, those of us who, uh, suspect that this may have been, uh, injection related, like, Hey man, they put us in this spot by lying to us so often that it’s our go-to the, the, the N F L guys. Hey Brian. Good morning. Good morning. The commentators were tripping when they would go to the desk. The people were tripping. Tripping. Olivia, good morning.

Olivia Kerstetter (02:42):


Sevan Matossian (02:44):

Uh, what time is it there?

Olivia Kerstetter (02:46):


Sevan Matossian (02:47):

Oh, is that early for you?

Olivia Kerstetter (02:49):

Um, yeah. Oh, hey, now during winter break, that’s early

Sevan Matossian (02:53):

<laugh>. Well, thanks for doing this.

Olivia Kerstetter (02:56):

Yeah, you’re welcome.

Sevan Matossian (02:57):

Are you, are you your senior year?

Olivia Kerstetter (03:00):

No, I’m still a ju I’m just a junior

Sevan Matossian (03:03):

<laugh>. Oh my goodness.

Olivia Kerstetter (03:04):


Brian Friend (03:05):

Know. Can they get you on an accelerated track or something? Maybe you finish this semester early next year.

Olivia Kerstetter (03:10):

I wish.

Brian Friend (03:12):

I think some of the, I know that some of the other athletes have sometimes been able to manage that, but it’s usually just, uh, you know, you guys are always obviously very hardworking, so when you want to, you know, set your mind on something can often be achieved.

Olivia Kerstetter (03:25):

Yeah. I only have like, I think like two and a half or three credits left, so at least maybe try, I’m might try and convince them to have me do like half days or something next year. But

Sevan Matossian (03:38):

You would do that if you could, if if there was some way you could get out early, you would do that?

Olivia Kerstetter (03:43):

Oh yeah, for sure.

Sevan Matossian (03:45):

Wow. Um, would any part of you miss high school?

Olivia Kerstetter (03:50):

Mm, I mean, I would still be going for half a day, and so I’d still be kind of having the experience, but no, not really.

Sevan Matossian (03:58):

<laugh>, <laugh>, you get to see your, do you have a lot of friends at school?

Olivia Kerstetter (04:02):


Sevan Matossian (04:04):

Is that the primary reason you like to go?

Olivia Kerstetter (04:07):

Yeah, basically.

Sevan Matossian (04:09):

Yeah. Me too. I went just for the friends. I loved going there to see my friends. That shit was cool. Uh, so, so you’re not only are you just a junior, but you’re not even done with your junior year. You’re like, you’re barely halfway through.

Olivia Kerstetter (04:27):

Yeah, we just, we’re about to start second semester, so halfway through.

Sevan Matossian (04:33):

Oh man. And then, and then what time do you, when you, uh, when school’s in session, what time do you get up?

Olivia Kerstetter (04:39):

Um, like 6 5 45.

Sevan Matossian (04:44):

Oh my goodness.

Olivia Kerstetter (04:46):


Sevan Matossian (04:46):

Oh, my g and that starts tomorrow,

Olivia Kerstetter (04:49):

Uh, Thursday.

Sevan Matossian (04:50):

Oh my goodness. They should have just rolled it over to Monday.

Olivia Kerstetter (04:54):

I know. I don’t know why. We just have two days this week. I guess

Brian Friend (04:58):

The school, school schedules are very extremely variable right now. Like, there’s a lot of, um, college freshmen and sophomores that have tr you know, trained at our gym through the later part of their high school careers, but they’re always coming back at random times. Some of ’em will stay for a week. Some of ’em are here for like five weeks. They had like a whole month plus off of college. I never know what’s going on.

Olivia Kerstetter (05:19):

Oh yeah, college. Like, both my sisters, like, they have like over a month off. I’m like, that’s crazy.

Sevan Matossian (05:26):

How old are your sisters?

Olivia Kerstetter (05:29):

Um, one of them is 20 and one of them is 23.

Brian Friend (05:34):

The 20 year old, uh, I have to believe was a big inspiration for you in pursuing CrossFit?

Olivia Kerstetter (05:41):

Yeah, Ellie, she did CrossFit, but now she just does it for fun in college.

Sevan Matossian (05:48):

Good. Me too. I don’t do it in col. I do it in my garage for fun.

Olivia Kerstetter (05:52):


Sevan Matossian (05:54):

Uh, you made your rogue debut.

Olivia Kerstetter (05:57):


Sevan Matossian (05:58):

Yeah. That, that is, uh, truly, uh, remarkable. How did you, can you tell me about the discussion, um, you had with yourself with, uh, with your counsel? Uh, h how did you decide to do this?

Olivia Kerstetter (06:14):

Well, I just wanted some, like, I knew that my goal going into this year was to make it in the elite division. So I wanted to get some experience so that the first time I like did a competition. I wasn’t just like shocked. And so, um, we didn’t know if Rogue would be able to happen, but whenever they did the qualifier, I was like, well, might as well do it. And so then we did that. And then I’m also doing water Polooza coming up in the elite division, so I’ll have a pretty good like idea of like, what it’s like to be elite so that I’m not like shocked going into semis.

Sevan Matossian (06:54):

So, so, and when you say the elite division, you mean at the CrossFit games?

Olivia Kerstetter (06:58):


Sevan Matossian (07:00):


Brian Friend (07:00):

But really, but, but really it’s the semi-finals, like that will be either way. If she, you know, in order to get to the CrossFit games, you have to go through the semi-finals.

Sevan Matossian (07:09):

And those events are big events, basically is what you guys are, are telling me. You’re telling me that like, hey, the semi-finals is like showing up to Rogue or is like showing up to Waap Alza in terms of the number of events, the crowd, the pressure, the athletes who will be at your right and left, those types of things.

Olivia Kerstetter (07:24):

Yeah, basically.

Brian Friend (07:26):

Yeah, those are very similar. It, uh, kind of the, the weird thing is in one case it feels like it’s the most that’s on the line at the semi-finals because that’s, if, if you don’t perform there, you don’t get to the games. But on the other side, and I don’t know that this is something that weighs too heavily on Olivia right now, but in the off season there’s a little bit more at stake financially than at the semi-finals. So the pressure can be felt differently.

Sevan Matossian (07:50):

Do you have financial pressure, Olivia, <laugh>,

Olivia Kerstetter (07:53):

<laugh>, no.

Sevan Matossian (07:56):

Hey dad, I need money. Um, uh, how, how, how was rogue in terms of these un I’m, I’m gonna call them unknown elements that maybe you, that, that were different from? I mean, it’s not like you didn’t compete at the highest level. You competed competed at the highest level where you were capable to compete and that’s the team division at the games and you did really well. Um, what about, uh, and by, well, I mean when any surprises at Rogue, were there any like, um, starstruck crowd was too big, uh, too, too many fans, uh, not being able to overcome poor performances. Were there any shocks in any of those places where you’re like, oh, that was a bigger hurdle than I thought?

Olivia Kerstetter (08:41):

Um, I thought maybe the biggest hurdle was just like the starstruck, like just the fact that I was competing with like people that I’ve always looked up to. It was kind of hard for me to like get over that at first and like actually like wanna beat them. So that might’ve been the biggest hurdle anyone, which is why I’m glad that I did rogue and like am doing water polo so that I can like get over that so that it’s not like that at semis.

Sevan Matossian (09:08):

Yeah. Any anyone in particular that you’re like, wow, you, you are real, you’re not just like someone on social media?

Olivia Kerstetter (09:17):

I mean, all of them, but just like, I think like a couple events I was lined up next to Annie and I feel like that was like really real. I was like, okay, this is like my like childhood idol. So yeah.

Brian Friend (09:33):

Yeah. And a, I think Annie, she is probably the one that would, that I was would’ve guessed that you would’ve said, I mean, she’s so iconic and she’s, you know, just physically also her presence is very radiant. She’s, you know, great presence, uh, on and off the field. Um, and for pretty much, I mean, I don’t think it’s just women. I think a lot of people coming up and CrossFit, you know, 10, 12 years ago all the way through now have continued to be impressed and inspired by her.

Olivia Kerstetter (09:57):


Sevan Matossian (09:58):

Uh, um, Olivia, when, um, when you’re out there that I heard stories repeatedly from, I think it was Gza, Alex Gza, and uh, maybe it was, I can’t remember who the other person was. It was another young athlete and they were saying how nice some of the older athletes were to them. Like I heard a lot of compliments regarding Danny Spiegel, about her putting their arm around them, her talking to them, her making them feel comfortable. Did you get that from any of the ladies out there?

Olivia Kerstetter (10:27):

Oh, definitely. I think like just starting from the very first like check-in day when we had like a meeting and there was like no coaches, I was just like, kinda like lost. I didn’t know what to do. But yeah, Danny and um, Ariel Lowen and like, well most of them were all very nice, so that was nice having them like comforting me when they could tell I was like nervous and shy, but

Brian Friend (10:56):

Yeah. Well, and and you were kind of thrown into the deep end too. I mean, I was there in, in Rogan the stands and I remember for a majority of the events, I, it was not very difficult to find Jacob, you know, he was standing up with a very, uh, uh, jersey on supporting you, but event one, you didn’t get to have your coach either.

Olivia Kerstetter (11:16):

Yeah, I, yeah, he was there. Most I could see him or hear him most of the time. He has a distinct, like, sound I could hear. But yeah, the first event I was just like, right when they announced that we were all like laughing, like of course the first event, like I’m a 16 year old girl and just like going on a bus, don’t know where I’m going with no coaches. I was like trying not to freak out and just laugh about it. And, but yeah, I mean, glad I like, once again, glad I had that experience at Rogue and not like at the games or somewhere where it like, like actually matters, but that was crazy.

Sevan Matossian (11:56):

Was there any discussion about, okay, well we have to make an exception here and like, Olivia’s dad or mom has to go on the bus?

Olivia Kerstetter (12:03):

Um, no, they didn’t ever say that, but I think my mom had to like sign a permission slip for me to go.

Sevan Matossian (12:10):

Did they have an official permission slip?

Olivia Kerstetter (12:13):

Uh, yeah, it was like a waiver, like online, but

Sevan Matossian (12:18):


Brian Friend (12:18):

Yeah, I mean I, I I would think that’s probably common cause you have to sign some kind of waiver to compete in if you’re under 18. And you know, Emma Lawson was in the similar situation. Did you bond with her over that at all?

Olivia Kerstetter (12:29):

Um, we kind of like laughed about it a lot, a little bit, but we weren’t on the same bus, so we didn’t really like talk about it that much.

Brian Friend (12:39):

What was that bus ride like? I mean, bus ride, like for you, were you nervous? Were you just hanging out with the other girls or guys or were you just pretty much focused on what you were about to do?

Olivia Kerstetter (12:51):

Uh, um, I mean, I was nervous a lot. Most people on my bus, like the way there were not talking at all. So it, I was kind of just like quiet with headphones in and then the way back they were a little more talkative and like, I would kind of like talk sometimes, but yeah, I was just nervous and I think we like all knew what we were about to do, like some sort of like running things, so I was just kind of like mentally preparing myself for that and just get over with and get

Brian Friend (13:23):

Some what you thinking to myself? Maybe there’ll be a heavy barbell out there for

Olivia Kerstetter (13:27):

Me. <laugh>. Yeah, maybe in the middle of this run, <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (13:31):

Oh, did they go away? Uh, at 3, 2, 1, go. And you get going, did it all go away? Did all the noise go away? And once you got in, got sweaty and got the heartbeat up, did you feel at home?

Olivia Kerstetter (13:43):

Yeah. Um, I’m not sure about the first workout, but once we got like on the, like in the stadium the first workout and it was like 3, 2, 1, that’s when like, yeah, it definitely went away and I could like just do what I always do.

Sevan Matossian (14:01):

What, what if any reasons were there that you wouldn’t go to Rogue? Were there any reasons, we’ve talked about the benefits of going to, you know, just get the, get the experience, but were there any reasons like, hey, this isn’t a good idea?

Olivia Kerstetter (14:14):

Um, I mean the only reasons are just like, the reasons that ev like everyone else doesn’t go is just because it’s like right after the games. And if you really wanna like, like, I don’t know, it kind of takes away from like, if you’re doing a cycle or something to like really improve on something for the like new season, then it kind of like disrupts that I guess. So just like affecting training for, uh, or getting better for the new season. But I think that it was like big enough thing like experience for me. Like it made me me better itself. So it wasn’t like, like I was disrupting like, or not getting better from doing it.

Sevan Matossian (14:58):

Um, do you, do you, is the goal to win the CrossFit game someday? Like, do you think about that?

Olivia Kerstetter (15:05):

Yeah, I mean obviously, but that’s like not 2023 go

Sevan Matossian (15:11):

<laugh>, right? Does that dream ever dim? Do, do you ever, like, after the games and then you’re gonna sign up for Rogue, you’re like, man, like, do you ever feel, uh, you know, burnout or, um, what’s the word I’m looking for? What, what’s that thing that they say happens to kids if you train ’em too hard or adults? I can’t remember, but does the dream, does the dream ever dim? Have you ever felt that like a, another thought creep in?

Olivia Kerstetter (15:39):

Um, not really. I mean, like sometimes I’ve thought like, oh, this is gonna be really hard. Or like, especially with like school and everything, like, I don’t know if I can do this, but I feel like especially after the games, I feel like I’m like more like inspired or motivated than ever. So I don’t know, I don’t really get burnt out just because like I’m having so much fun doing it and like, yeah, I just, I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (16:10):

Yeah. That’s awesome that, uh, it’s interesting. I bet you there’s people who after the games feel defeated, but you’re in that spot where Yeah, yeah. After that you, you’re in a realistic spot, right? You had a great, uh, great showing as a child and now you’re transitioning to adult, the adult game. Well what what’s weird is you’re transitioning to the adult games, but you’re still a kid. You are still a kid, right?

Olivia Kerstetter (16:33):


Sevan Matossian (16:34):

Yeah. I mean, you’re in high

Olivia Kerstetter (16:35):

School. He’s from 17. So

Sevan Matossian (16:37):

Do you drive, do you have a driver’s license?

Olivia Kerstetter (16:39):


Sevan Matossian (16:42):

It’s just, uh, every time I see you I just, I can’t even believe it. How, how, how are, how are things with Jacob? Um, does he look like he’s gonna make it another year as your coach or are you keeping him, or is your training partner, whatever you call him? Santa Nice. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Where are we? Are we, are we re-signing the contract with uh, Jacob?

Olivia Kerstetter (17:00):

No. We’ll, he’ll always be there, but, um, we don’t know yet. We’re trying to just kind of see like how the season like, or how water polo goes and everything to see if I might need like a more like professional coach, like that’s like for, to take the next step basically to then in the next level. But he’ll always be there. So it’s not like we’re breaking up or anything.

Brian Friend (17:27):

And we, we could make fun of, uh, Jacob for not being professional, but really I think he has a lot of things going on and he works hard at a lot of different tasks in his life. And for me it’s like if you’re gonna pursue that, he wants, I’m sure he wants to make sure that he can be as available as needed to support you and, and if, and maybe that’s not the case, then I think that’s really cool that you guys are able to have that conversation.

Olivia Kerstetter (17:48):

Yeah, for sure.

Sevan Matossian (17:50):

What, what would that look like, um, Olivia, I mean you have, you know, this semester left and then you have a whole nother year of high school. What would that look like? Would, would you go to a training camp or would you just take programming from someone else or what would happen you’d move to Van Fort Vancouver and, uh, with Ellie and, uh, Mr. Maderas?

Olivia Kerstetter (18:09):

No, I, I definitely would not move until, um, like I’m out of high school for sure, so I would just probably get programming from someone and do it at the barn cuz I would still have Jacob and um, I have a couple other people that I train with and I would still have them training with me. So yeah. Poor

Sevan Matossian (18:31):

Jacob, I would move. Poor Jacob’s probably terrified. What if like, you’re gonna sign up with mayhem and he is gonna be stuck doing wall balls for the next n ghs for the next three years. Is he able to keep up with you anymore? I mean it’s, it’s crazy, uh, what you’re doing.

Olivia Kerstetter (18:45):

Oh yeah, he keeps up, especially in his like specialty workouts, like, I don’t know the burpees and I don’t know even know, but he definitely keeps up. He just, he just thinks I beat him.

Sevan Matossian (19:01):

But, but, but he’s still the man.

Olivia Kerstetter (19:03):

Yeah. And he just gets sore after every workout I deal with him. So he doesn’t like doing them <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (19:12):

Um, is there, did you feel any pressure as a teen being at the, at the top of the mountain and maybe some of that pressure has uh, gone away now that you’re swimming in a bigger pond? I mean you were the big dog, uh, and, and now maybe you’re a puppy. Do you feel any pressure release?

Olivia Kerstetter (19:29):

Oh yeah, for sure. I mean there’s still pressure on like making it to the games, but like right now, since we’re still like months out from the real pressure, then I’m like definitely a lot more calm than I was like leading up to the games. I could definitely feel like a lot of the pressure, like I’m like the number one, like see the number one pick and like all this like what if I don’t even win? And like, so I was definitely stressed leading into the games. But yeah, now that, now like at Rogue I wasn’t as stressed cuz I was like, okay, I know I’m not gonna win. Just go in and have fun and do the best you can. And so yeah, I definitely less stressed right now

Sevan Matossian (20:14):

Do you know if you’re gonna go, um, adult at the games? Have you, have you made that decision yet or is it still st still both doors are open. I mean obviously both doors are open, but in your mind are, have you ch have you made a choice?

Olivia Kerstetter (20:29):

Um, well in my mind I’ve like made the decision like that I want to like make it in the lead division. But now that they have, now that like the new rule you can do both semis, that also made a lot of stress off my plate. So now I can do both. So

Sevan Matossian (20:50):

What do you mean explain that to me? I’m not following,

Olivia Kerstetter (20:53):

Like last year they said you could do the same, like you could do individual and teenage quarterfinals, open all that, but once you get to semi-finals you have to like make a choice. Like if you’re going elite or going teenage. And so like that’s when I had to make the choice that I was going in the teenage division. Um, but this year you can do both. So like I can qualify as a teenager and then I can go do semis and just be like, what the heck? I’m already have a spot at the games if I don’t make it, but, and do both.

Sevan Matossian (21:27):

Wow. So you won’t actually have to make it as long as you’re willing to put in do the workouts and keep succeeding at them. You can do b could you do both at the games? Could she do both at the games? Brian?

Olivia Kerstetter (21:38):

No, no,

Brian Friend (21:39):

No. But what I, but I, what I hear her saying there is that that’s stressful, you know, is that she d like she’s in a little bit of unknown. And what I’ve kind of always wanted I think is that at the start of the season you just decide when you sign up for the open, you decide if you’re gonna compete on a team, whereas a age group or in an individual and then that’s locked in. It makes it easy for everyone to follow the trajectory of the season, open it back up like this For me, for my, for my perspective, you know, creates a lot of chaos and challenges in terms of people saying, well who, who are the teams to watch at the games? I don’t know. There’s 50 people on this roster. I’m not sure if that team’s actually gonna compete or half their people are gonna go.


I mean two years ago the top qualifying team outta quarter finals in Europe, the top the best male ms female, one individual. And so we didn’t get a chance to see that team at all. It was a Spanish training culture team. I was excited to see ’em. We had to wait a whole year to see them anyway. So, but to hear an athlete say that it’s also stressful is something that, uh, is, you know, stands out to me because CrossFit has been very, uh, open about the fact that they’ve communicated with athletes a lot in trying to make decisions. Um, going forward they’ve been seeking out, uh, advice and counsel from athlete organizations, uh, agents and managers in the space to try to, you know, do things that are in line with what the athletes would like to see. Um, so I don’t know, I don’t know if it’ll stay that way or not, but I do imagine that when you’re good enough to make it on multiple paths that it is a really difficult decision.

Sevan Matossian (23:06):

Uh, is that, is that accurate Olivia basically like, hey, it’s nice having the options but it’s just added more stress for longer because, because you have the, the option for so long.

Olivia Kerstetter (23:16):

Um, I don’t know. I mean I feel like the most stressful part is just that like doing all the qualifiers like I put on my schedule, like all the qualifiers and it’s like one is like every weekend or like every other weekend. So I feel like that’s the most stressful part is just you never like get a break or get to really like train cuz you’re just doing all these qualifiers. But for me, especially this year, I thought that it took like a lot of stress off my plate cuz I didn’t have to like, like I like since I want to go a elite if I went to semis and then like I would have so much stress there, like if I didn’t make it, but this now I can kind of go there and be like not stressed because I already have a game spot. Like, I mean obviously I still want to make it, but like, you know, not as stressful cause I’m still making it to the games either way.

Sevan Matossian (24:09):

Oh my goodness. So, so well

Brian Friend (24:11):

Let’s, before we get to this, hold this here for a second, okay. Okay. You did the qualifier for Rogue Online wa qualifier.

Olivia Kerstetter (24:17):


Brian Friend (24:18):

And did you do the online qualifier for Waap Puso or were you invited to that?

Olivia Kerstetter (24:22):

I was invited. So, so

Brian Friend (24:25):

That, that’s, that’s nice. And if people don’t know, there are a lot of different ways that Waap Alza, uh, invites athletes to compete in their competition. All individual games, athletes, some teams, some age group winners, and then there’s several other small competitions and historical stuff. So there’s a big co a lot of different ways, but that’s at least nicely didn’t have to do that qualifier. But Savon, just to put it in perspective, she did the rogue qualifier. That was like end of Aug August, the beginning of September, competed at in Rogue at the end of October. She’s competing in Waap plums in the middle of January, in the middle of February. She has three weeks of open, two weeks later she has individual quarter finals. Two weeks after that she has age group quarter finals a month after that. She has the age group se uh, she probably has the, the individual semi-finals. Then she has the age group semi-finals and then she has the games.

Sevan Matossian (25:14):

Yeah, this is crazy. The, the one thing, I don’t know if, if you mentioned in there, Brian was this, oh, that’s the team quarter final. Okay. Okay.

Brian Friend (25:23):

Yeah, the April, the March 32nd, first April 2nd. So she’ll do March 16 and 19 and 31st to second.

Sevan Matossian (25:30):

So Olivia,

Brian Friend (25:31):

That’s, that gets her through two stages of the season. Then she’ll have to do the age group semi-finals. Oh my goodness. And the elite semi-finals. So she’ll have to do five competitions before going to the

Sevan Matossian (25:41):

Games. Uh, Olivia, what comes first in the semi-finals? The age or the in, uh, elite, do you

Olivia Kerstetter (25:48):

Know? Well, I think they’re different weekends, aren’t they?

Sevan Matossian (25:51):

Do you know which one comes first? Which comes

Olivia Kerstetter (25:53):


Sevan Matossian (25:54):

In, in the order

Olivia Kerstetter (25:55):

For the semi-finals. I think age group semis are first.

Sevan Matossian (26:00):

Oh my goodness. I

Olivia Kerstetter (26:01):


Sevan Matossian (26:01):

Oh my goodness. Yeah. So you’ll do those regardless because if it was the other way around, maybe after doing the semi-finals you might be like, okay, I’m good. I’m going elite, but now wow, that’s gonna be crazy.

Olivia Kerstetter (26:13):


Sevan Matossian (26:14):

Has anyone ever done that before Brian? What she’s gonna do?

Brian Friend (26:17):

Yeah. Uh, I I I’m sure there’s more than I’m forgetting, but I know that Sam Briggs has done it Yeah, a couple times. Re

Olivia Kerstetter (26:24):

I think Mal did it the year that she, or maybe it wasn’t like the whole like quarter semis thing, but I

Brian Friend (26:31):

Know that she, I think her and Emma Carey both did that year.

Olivia Kerstetter (26:35):


Sevan Matossian (26:37):


Brian Friend (26:37):

But it’s a lot. I mean it’s a lot. That’s like she was saying, it’s basically every other week she’s competing for <laugh>, you know, three months in a row or something.

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

Um, I I I wanna get back to this. I just want, um, let this person ask this question. Cole, uh, Solomon, uh, Sev asked Olivia how she felt at the final workout at Rogue. The final workout was was that, that was the 30 cleaning jerk.

Olivia Kerstetter (26:59):


Sevan Matossian (27:00):

And what was the weight on that?

Olivia Kerstetter (27:03):

I think it was 1 35.

Sevan Matossian (27:06):

Okay. The floor is yours, Ms. Kutter.

Olivia Kerstetter (27:10):

Um, yeah, that was definitely like, that was so much fun whenever they announced it, I think I was

Sevan Matossian (27:17):

1 65. You don’t know the difference between that’s how strong you are. You don’t know the difference between I would never forget that. I would never forget that. I’d be like ragging

Brian Friend (27:26):

One five feels like 1 35.

Sevan Matossian (27:28):

The rehearsal. Oh my goodness.

Olivia Kerstetter (27:29):

That was a long time ago.

Sevan Matossian (27:30):

You were nuts <laugh>.

Olivia Kerstetter (27:33):

Yeah, but like whenever they announced that I like thought initially that it looked really fun and I was like, okay, this is like the very last workout. Just go and like you like this workout, so just have fun and end it on a good No, and then I definitely did not expect to get second place, especially with like Danny Spiegel in my heat. I was like, okay, just keep like right behind her and then you’ll still get a good placing. And um, then I just kept going and I like felt really good. And then, yeah, I don’t know, it was kind of a blur, but it was like definitely sparked some like energy in me and made me motivated. So I’m glad that we ended on that one.

Brian Friend (28:21):

I think it might have won you a few fans as well. <laugh> people were loving that.

Sevan Matossian (28:26):

I, I’m trying to remember, were you on what you were on the end closest to the camera and Danny was in the middle? Yeah.

Brian Friend (28:32):

Is that she was in, she was in the outside lane. She wouldn’t know where the camera was necessary.

Sevan Matossian (28:36):

Yeah, I don’t remember. Right. And and you were pretty close and you were pretty close to her. Were you ever ahead of her? And when you heard that voice in your head, say you’re out there on the floor and you’re like, okay, I’m just gonna stay with Danny Spiegel had you, is is this all new to you? These type of thoughts and this type of strategizing?

Olivia Kerstetter (28:53):

I mean, yeah, it was new to me, but like also since it was the last workout of the weekend, it was like, like I was kind of used to like the whole thought process by then.

Sevan Matossian (29:05):

And so you, you finish that workout, you take second place in it and uh, what was, what was your time again Caleb?

Brian Friend (29:12):

3 48.

Sevan Matossian (29:15):

So just to put this in perspective, I suspect that the 2007, 2008 and 2009 CrossFit games, that would be uh, top 10 finish in the men’s division. Maybe top five,

Brian Friend (29:29):

What do you think? One five?

Sevan Matossian (29:31):


Brian Friend (29:33):

In what years?

Sevan Matossian (29:34):

Seven, eight, and nine.

Brian Friend (29:37):

Yeah, I mean, well we had, uh,

Sevan Matossian (29:39):

I mean that’s

Brian Friend (29:40):

Crazy. You know, we had squat, clean grace, wasn’t it, as the final of 2008. And I think that,

Sevan Matossian (29:45):

Uh, and that was 1 55, but you had to squat it. But I think her time is competitive with KPAs the Champs that year.

Brian Friend (29:51):

Yeah. And his time was a lot better than most of the guys.

Sevan Matossian (29:55):

Wow. We’ve come so far. When, when was the first time, how old were you when you, the first you.

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