#727 – Paulo Rubio | How To Get Into a Knife Fight, Better

Paulo Rubio (00:00):

Two, it’s 7:00 AM There

Sevan Matossian (00:03):

It is. Damn. We’re live. It is. Damn. Uh, you’re, are you in Toronto?

Paulo Rubio (00:08):

I am in Toronto,

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Yeah. 10, 10:00 AM for you.

Paulo Rubio (00:11):

10:00 AM still early.

Sevan Matossian (00:13):

I <laugh>. I’m in, uh, Santa Cruz, California, about as far away as I can be from you, except for Caleb who’s deployed in an undisclosed location even further away. What’s up, man? Uh, very, very far away. Paul. I always, uh, he’s, he’s deployed and he’s, uh, basically, I, I call him, I say he’s part of an equity experiment, but thank God he’s deployed because then I get him every morning to help me with the show. He can’t, he can’t run away. I don’t have to pay him. He’s just stuck.

Paulo Rubio (00:44):

Perfect man. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (00:45):

Yeah. He’s best. He’s the perfect partner.

Paulo Rubio (00:48):

<laugh>. Uh, alrighty.

Sevan Matossian (00:51):

Good morning everyone. Good morning, vindicate. Kenneth Bruce, guys, Alan, I, uh, I wanna start this morning and I wanna show you a clip of, uh, Paul, um, a father of two. You have two, Paul?

Paulo Rubio (01:02):

I have two. Yes, sir.

Sevan Matossian (01:04):

I wanna show you this clip of Paul playing with his daughter.

Sevan Matossian (01:07):

Daddy Loves you.

Sevan Matossian (01:12):

You my love. How old is she here, Paul?

Paulo Rubio (01:15):

She’s 11.

Sevan Matossian (01:17):

And how and how old is she now?

Paulo Rubio (01:19):


Sevan Matossian (01:20):

11. That’s her.

Paulo Rubio (01:21):

Yeah. This was recently, very recently.

Sevan Matossian (01:24):

And, and what are you guys doing? This isn’t checkers or, um,

Paulo Rubio (01:28):

No, well, as far as, it depends on the perspective, right? Like, I’m being a dad, trying to teach her some coordination skills, really trying to spend some time with her. To her, it’s just a game. Um, this is a drill called Sabaan. And, uh, it’s a drill from the Art of Bikini Teria, which is a Filipino martial art. And it contains within this drill, you know, two common strikes. But when I, when I play it with my kids, it’s more like patty cake, you know? I don’t, uh, I don’t know. Some of the comments imply that, you know, she, uh, she killed you. I guess it’s, it’s

Sevan Matossian (02:08):

<laugh>, you know, that’s Did she, Paul, did she <laugh> She did.

Paulo Rubio (02:13):

Little murderer also. Uh, yeah. This is, this video got almost a million views, and it was just interesting how people interpreted this.

Sevan Matossian (02:23):

I, I didn’t even think about it until you said the comments. Did anyone say, was there one negative comment?

Paulo Rubio (02:29):

Yes. Yeah, there were plenty. It was, yeah. And, uh, the predominant one was that I was giving her a false sense of security.

Sevan Matossian (02:36):

Oh, geez.

Paulo Rubio (02:36):

And that’s not how knife fight goes. And I was just like, man, the context I wrote was, I was spending time with my daughter, you know, like we were playing. And this is a thing about the knife world, right? It’s, it, uh, people infuse their interpretation of value into all sorts of things. And this was me spending time with my daughter, playing with, with those awesome ACU strike knives and, uh, me in, you know, teaching her a little bit of the Filipino martial art.

Sevan Matossian (03:06):

Uh, those are those of you who are worried that this isn’t how a knife fight goes. Also, remember that 86% of the cell phones in the United States have watched porn, and that’s not how relationships go.

Paulo Rubio (03:18):


Sevan Matossian (03:18):

So let me, let me, let me, let me, let me <laugh>, let me, lemme put that, put that out. Let, that’s not how healthy relationships go. No. Let me, let me, let me tell you that, um, you also, uh, there’s a video, um, on your Instagram. Uh, it’s an amazing Instagram, by the way, people, it’s GN underscore funker tactical. It’s one of those accounts, um, that you can just get lost on. There’s so much fun stuff on there. He has a ton of cool stuff, um, showing athleticism, uh, comedy, but also a ton of, uh, micro tutorials on things. Like, I caught myself, um, setting my phone up and practicing, you know, the triangle footwork. Yes. It’s like a common theme, uh, in your Instagram account. I’m like, I don’t have time to practice this shit, but, but I’m, I’m preparing for a podcast. But I stopped and I did, and I’m gonna show my sons today.


But there’s a video in there where you’re, you’re training with your son, and you basically say that, um, he’s young. You basically say that he doesn’t even know what he’s preparing for. Like he doesn’t, he doesn’t know that this drill, this is a drill for night fighting or for warming up. Yeah. It’s just a patty cake game to him. Yes. And I thought that was so cool. Cuz that’s how I do. My kids, um, have been doing Jiujitsu three to seven days a week for three years. Damn. I never talked to him. I let them figure out what it is.

Paulo Rubio (04:38):

Yeah. Yeah. My kids also did Juujitsu and that’s that 11 year old girl. I mean, she was a provincial champ.

Sevan Matossian (04:46):

Wow. In jujitsu.

Paulo Rubio (04:47):

In jujitsu. She was like nine. Wow. Yeah. But she hated it.

Sevan Matossian (04:52):

Hey, that’s a, that’s a crazy scene, by the way. I, I’ll go over to, uh, I’m in Santa Cruz, so I’ll go over the hill. Yeah. And here’s your son. How old’s your son?

Paulo Rubio (04:59):

Uh, he’s 15. Yeah. And he and I have been playing this since he was, you know, maybe 10, nine years old.

Sevan Matossian (05:07):

God, how fun. And you’re building a dance partner for yourself.

Paulo Rubio (05:11):

Yeah. And he’s, uh, he’s a, he’s a little over a year into boxing now. Yeah. I’ve been building this guy up to be my trading partner since he was, uh, three years old.

Sevan Matossian (05:23):

And, and it’s a, it’s a lot of reps, right? It’s slow and patient and

Paulo Rubio (05:27):

Yeah, absolutely, man. Yeah. I mean, you guys know this, but all the, you know, the, I don’t know, the, the uninitiated think everything needs to be like a full on pressure test fight and train your train like you fight, fight how you train. And they just spew all of these, you know, memes and we’re not really understanding it. Not that there isn’t any truth to train as you fight, fight as you train slow, smooth, smooth as fast. Better to be tried by 12 and carried by six. And all of, all of these, you know, one-liners that people wish to encompass the totality of their training to without really understanding what they mean. Weird stuff. Man. The knife world is weird. Dude. Training world martial arts. It’s so weird, man.

Sevan Matossian (06:15):

Well, it is weird. I, I, I trip on the fact, so I go over the hill to San Jose, I enter my kids in these jiu-jitsu tournaments that they have every few months. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, first of all, every, you’re lucky if you see one blonde-haired person there, which I find fascinating. Right? It’s, it’s all, uh, people who look like you. It’s all Filipinos, Latin American people, Brazilian, it’s all those people. And then it’s another interesting thing that we’re all, we must be weird parents because we’re all bringing our kids to do a combat sport on the weekend. And I, and part of me is like, this is so cool. And part of me is like, what’s wrong with us? Yeah. There’s, there’s my, uh, there’s my youngest or my oldest, he’s, he just, he just turned eight. Yeah. And, and, and those are my, uh, and he’s, uh, training with, um, one of his brothers. I, there’s, there’s twins.

Paulo Rubio (07:02):

That’s amazing. Man. Jiu-jitsu is so good for kids, bro. It’s, it’s so good for them.

Sevan Matossian (07:08):

Hey, you, you know what, um, way off subject here, but you know, one of the byproducts of it are that I’d never expected was, um, comfortability touching people.

Paulo Rubio (07:19):


Sevan Matossian (07:19):

Huge. Yeah. My kids are so touchy feely, loving when they see other kids huge. They’re not afraid of people’s bodies. They’re not afraid of their bodies. Yeah. They sit close to people. They, they, they just understand their bodies so well. And in a, in a era where so many people want to, um, where kids’ identity is so fucked up and parents are putting so many fucked up things into their heads. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I just love the fact that I don’t have to do that. I just give them opportunity and they’re building their own identity. So if I ask my kids, who are you? They’re, they’re like, they give their name and then I say, well, what’s something that you’re good at? And they’re like, Jiu-jitsu. You know what I mean? Like, they’re, they’re, they’re just building. They don’t have to worry about any of these crazy ideas, um, that adults are putting into their head about their ide uh, their identity.

Paulo Rubio (08:06):

Yeah. That’s, that’s beautiful, man. And the thing with, the thing with Jiujitsu that I really found, somebody dropped this into my brain a few years ago, this idea of manufacturing adversity and that children these days don’t really get the kind of adversity that people our age had growing up. You know, cuz I was in that transition. Like, there were no, I grew up in the Philippines until I was nine years old. So I was out in the, out in the streets playing, you know, exploring, finding trouble, figuring out what I can step on and, and, and what will make me fall through and being chased by animals. And, and a lot of the kids growing up these days don’t have that kind of gradual, incremental adversity that tests and builds their character. And so jujitsu is one of those ways where you can manufacture adversity to build character. So there’s a lot happening in a kids’ jiujitsu class. A lot happening. But

Sevan Matossian (09:02):

Before we leave this subject, and I want to, I want to go back to the beginning of your life, but h how for parents out there, like, I have no, I have no combat experience is zero at all.

Paulo Rubio (09:11):

Me too. Me too. And people think I do, man, but I’m not, I’m a I’m straight up

Sevan Matossian (09:16):

Civilian brother. Yeah. But man, you have really, you’ve really immersed yourself in a world and you are a wealth of knowledge. And I think what you’re sharing with the world and what you’re doing as a, I call it a repeater man, you just going out there and repeating informa good information you’re getting is awesome. But do you have any thoughts on how parents can pick a good jiu-jitsu gym or, or good coaches? It’s been something that’ve been focused on a lot, the importance of making sure you find a coach because you’re taking your kid there three to five days a week. Yeah. And your kids are spending time there. And a lot of facilities, like you could take your kids to a gymnastics facility and if you watch, it’s just a glorified babysitter. Right. But that’s not why I take my kids somewhere. Do you have any like, you know, I,

Paulo Rubio (09:58):

I do, man. I do. And it’s, it’s, it’s not high level stuff. Right. If it, if it’s, if the place is clean, if there are a lot of kids of different ages and sizes, and if they roll, that’s really it. You know, um, parents who are,

Sevan Matossian (10:11):

You mean when you say roll sparring, sparring in the class? Yeah.

Paulo Rubio (10:15):

Yeah. Um, and, and that’s, that’s, some people will be like, duh. No, some, some, some places are still prohibitive, you know, they’re scared, they’re scared of the liabilities. So it’s, it’s a jiujitsu <laugh> class with no rolling. They exist. Um, but that’s pretty much it. You know, observe, observe how the kids are during a class. And, um, and again, I say this as, you know, as a parent who knows that probably the number one factor is proximity to your home, <laugh>. You know?

Sevan Matossian (10:51):

Right, right, right. It’s

Paulo Rubio (10:53):

Gotta be close by. Right. Um, it’s gotta be close by so that, you know, we could be consistent with it. Um, and I’m also saying this as somebody who, not from the perspective of a parent who’s like, okay, well from the age of three I’m gonna get my kids to, to, to do a sport so that they can be a professional one day, and then that could be their living. You know, it’s just for pure development. Just make sure there’s, there’s, there’s a handful of kids there enough to challenge them. It’d be nice if they weren’t the, the biggest kid there. Right. Right. Um,

Sevan Matossian (11:24):

Yeah, I, um, I, I’ve pulled my kids outta a situation where he’s the rabbit. Like he’s been the rabbit for a year, and it’s like time to move them. Like he needs kids that he’s chasing. Not everyone chasing him. I

Paulo Rubio (11:35):

Love that analogy. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (11:36):

Right. He can’t be, he can’t be the best kid in the class for, for long. Right.

Paulo Rubio (11:39):


Sevan Matossian (11:41):

Um, born in the Philippines. Yeah, ma’am. Were, were you barefoot kid the way you said you had to worry about what you stepped on? You, you raised without shoes,

Paulo Rubio (11:50):

<laugh>, we were all raised without shoes in the Philippines. No. Um, I was actually, I mean, I, I, I was raised in a, in a pretty big city, but like a lot of people in the Philippines, there was a provincial sort of rural connection where our grandparents might live in a place that we might visit over the weekend. So I had this like crazy childhood where I was like jumping roofs, some tin, some plastic. I’ve like fallen through wells, I’ve been attacked by monkeys. I’ve been in, you know, scuffles, I’ve been thrown into a boxing match just as a frigging eight year old running wild in the streets of Manila. Wow. And then, and then in the weekend, you know, we would drive to grandma’s house and it, you know, the, the closest neighbor, you know, was maybe it wasn’t fire. It was, it’s not like, you know, rural America or anything, but it was proper jungle, you know, like the backyard led into a, a river system, a creek, um, uh, rice fields were full of awesome things. So yeah, I had a, I had a super fun childhood in that way.

Sevan Matossian (13:04):

And, uh, do you have siblings?

Paulo Rubio (13:07):

Yeah, I have three sisters.

Sevan Matossian (13:09):

Are they all in the states too?

Paulo Rubio (13:11):


Sevan Matossian (13:13):

Or North America?

Paulo Rubio (13:14):

Yeah. Yeah. They, they’re all in, they’re all in Canada here.

Sevan Matossian (13:18):

And I apologize for that. Us um, Americans have trouble. We just think we are all of North America

Paulo Rubio (13:24):

<laugh>, so I’ll get, I’m used to it, bro.

Sevan Matossian (13:26):

Uh, and, and, and why did your family go, um, to Canada and, and what

Paulo Rubio (13:31):

Was Oh, my dad was like,

Sevan Matossian (13:31):

That journey,

Paulo Rubio (13:32):

Like my dad was ambitious, man, you know, um, he know to speak Japanese and French, uh, well, English is their, is their second language in the Philippines. And he was, he was just adventurous and he wanted to, to look for opportunity. So boom, roulette wheel Canada, Toronto, let’s go.

Sevan Matossian (13:52):

And, and, and what, what was your first language?

Paulo Rubio (13:56):

Uh, it was Tagalog and English

Sevan Matossian (13:59):

At the same time. Yeah. So when you got, when you showed up in Canada, you spoke English?

Paulo Rubio (14:04):

Yeah. Yeah. I didn’t have to take like English as a second language classes or anything like that.

Sevan Matossian (14:08):

And so you’re a nine year old, uh, Filipino boy with three sisters. Are are you the oldest?

Paulo Rubio (14:14):

Yeah, I am.

Sevan Matossian (14:16):

Wow. Okay.

Paulo Rubio (14:17):


Sevan Matossian (14:18):

Uh, in, in, in traditional stuff, in, in that sense, uh, there’s a responsibility that comes with that.

Paulo Rubio (14:25):

Um, yeah. You know, my family, uh, my, my dad is, was always black sheepish, you know, like he would just be a supremely logical individual, so certain traditions he would adhere to. Uh, I remember him not wanting to go to church, which is kind of strange, you know, Philippines is like 90% Roman Catholic or something like that. He was just kind of like, uh, an adventurous, logical, free thinker kind of dude. So yeah, we had tradition, but yeah. Also when we moved to Canada, I, I, I was, we had no family here. No family. Right. My father, uh, passed away when I was 19 years old, so 10 years later, and I

Sevan Matossian (15:11):

Was alive. Why, why so young?

Paulo Rubio (15:14):

Um, I guess it runs into family, you know, uh, hardest issue. He had a stroke. Yeah. Uh, uh, yeah. And then all of a sudden I was like, oh, shit. And the last Rubio Wow. And this cold place. And so it was, it was a very important part in my life where, you know, this is why I’m so resistant to a lot of the Filipino martial arts community where a lot of ’em are pretty much respect your elders. Whatever they say is right. And this is how you stop a knife. I’m just like, what the, wait, hold on. Let’s, let’s examine that because I, I, I had this built into me to question everything and not just bow down to, you know, my elder. I made this video in, in, in Filipino martial arts about Filipino martial arts. And the title was, you are Not My Elder. And it was just like, it was about this, it was just about, uh, we shouldn’t readily accept these stories that were being told about these techniques that are supposed to work. Um, and, and that was because of, of the upbringing that I had. So people find it strange. I don’t belong in either, you know, sect and Philippine martial arts. Like, I’m, I’m not entirely combative. I love the art history and culture. I’m also not like so dogmatic and blind to, eh, there’s a lot of bullshit in this. Let’s address them.

Sevan Matossian (16:47):

That being said, you are by no means, uh, hater. Your account is full of tons of respect. Even when you address people who have techniques that you think are flawed, you’re respectful. And there’s even a video on your YouTube where, where you go and you apologize. You find a guy who’s an expert in the field, um, who you had it out with on the internet, and you, um, you make amends.

Paulo Rubio (17:12):

Yeah. That was Craig Douglas from Shiv Works.

Sevan Matossian (17:16):

He’s, I was so, I was blown away when I saw that video. I was like, holy, it gave me hope for all of humanity. I don’t even know what the dispute, I don’t, I didn’t know what the dispute was, but just the way you, you came up and you addressed him and you squashed it. Uh, I was like, wow.

Paulo Rubio (17:30):

Yeah. Um, a few years back, I had questioned one of the techniques that he was proposing, and it, it kind of got, you know, how social media is? People love drama. Yeah. That’s the man right there. Craig Douglas, he’s a, he’s actually a really cool dude, but he is a, a known nonsense guy. And, um, I was at that time to him just another internet troll asking questions, you know, perhaps I shouldn’t have been asking the way that I should have been asking them. So, uh, a few years down the road, like I, I, we were at the same event and I, I made an active attempt to talk to him and be like, Hey, dude, let’s talk about it. I’m a different person. I, I want to clear some things up. And then we’re buddies Now.

Sevan Matossian (18:18):

Um, did he remember the incident?

Paulo Rubio (18:20):

Oh, of course. Yeah, because people Oh, he did. People blew it way out of proportion, man. Um, in fact, as I was going to that event, there were people messaging him and messaging me like, Hey, Kirk Douglas is gonna be there. And he said this about you. Oh, people just l they were just kind of like, fight, fight,

Sevan Matossian (18:36):

Fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I picture a schoolyard.

Paulo Rubio (18:39):

<laugh>, yeah. So I got these messages. I’m like, what? Man? People are weird, dude. So as soon as he stepped into the hotel where we’re all kind of staying at, I stepped up. I’m like, Hey, man. Shook his hand. And I’m like, I think we need to talk.

Sevan Matossian (18:54):

Yeah. It’s a, it’s a, it’s a be it’s a beautiful video that shows how, um, gentlemen should act.

Paulo Rubio (19:02):

Yeah. Thanks

Sevan Matossian (19:02):

Man. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that. Those things are, those things are hugely impactful. It’s like, um, you know, we have this rule in my house. If my wife and I get in a fight in front of the kids mm-hmm. <affirmative>, if we’re dumb enough to do that, then they also need to see us make up. It’s our obligation for them to see, Hey, this is how a fight starts, and this is how it ends,

Paulo Rubio (19:18):

Man. That’s

Sevan Matossian (19:19):

Awesome. Right? They, yeah. They need that lesson too. They need to

Paulo Rubio (19:23):


Sevan Matossian (19:24):

They need, they need to know how relationships Yeah. Work. So you get there at nine years old and have you, when you get to Canada, have you, um, started in the, in the, uh, Filipino arts? Uh,

Paulo Rubio (19:34):


Sevan Matossian (19:34):

Martial arts, no.

Paulo Rubio (19:35):

You know how long ago I started doing Filipino martial arts

Sevan Matossian (19:38):

A thousand years ago from the way it looks on your Instagram

Paulo Rubio (19:41):

<laugh>? No, it’s like five, six years.

Sevan Matossian (19:44):

No kidding.

Paulo Rubio (19:45):

Yeah. There’s a process to it. I’m smashing dudes in competition. Right. And this is, again, a, a, a part of why,

Sevan Matossian (19:53):

And you’re a beautiful mover. The way you move your body is so

Paulo Rubio (19:55):

Beautiful. Oh, thanks, man. That’s

Sevan Matossian (19:58):

It. It looks like you’ve been doing it forever. Yeah,

Paulo Rubio (20:00):

Yeah, yeah. No, I, I, I, dude, I like the way you think, man. You’re like, uh, this cosmic observer and appreciator of some things that people might not see.

Sevan Matossian (20:11):

I love watching people move. I love watching people. Me too,

Paulo Rubio (20:14):

Dude. Yeah, me too. Like, that’s the thing. It doesn’t, it doesn’t like lie. Oh, geez. Yeah. <laugh>. That’s, that’s, that’s

Sevan Matossian (20:24):

How, how old are you now?

Paulo Rubio (20:25):

I’m 42.

Sevan Matossian (20:26):

Okay. So you, so around 35 is when you started?

Paulo Rubio (20:30):


Sevan Matossian (20:31):

37. 35, 37.

Paulo Rubio (20:33):

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was initially just documenting stuff. I’m, dude, I sit all day. I’m a video editor, I’m a content creator. I’m a cameraman, I’m a director. I’m all those things. Um, and man, this is another crazy tangent story about how Please, uh, a civilian Canadian hippie-ish immigrant, all of a sudden runs funker tactical, traveling the world with Special forces. And, you know, going to Africa with Chris Barrett and figuring

Sevan Matossian (21:04):

Your contacts and your friends are insane. The the people that you’re rubbing shoulders with are just insane. Yeah, dude, it’s, but from biz being to, I saw the Dana White photo to, uh, what’s the, um, max Holloway, and then to all of these guys who are the unknowns in the shadows, uh, endless guys of those who are, who are imparting knowledge on the world. Oh, yeah. Ed, ed Calderon, we had him on the show. Crazy.

Paulo Rubio (21:28):

Yeah. You know what? I think it is, dude, it’s like, there’s, there’s a lot of fakeness in the tactical community and the martial arts community. There’s a lot of, and even in, yeah, it’s like my ops are blacker than yours, and frigging, oh, were you here? Were you there? And what belt did you have? And how many certificates, you know, certification. I’m just like, dude, I don’t care, man. You know? And so I find also that a lot of people are trapped within, like this image that they’ve crafted for themselves. You know, you’re, you’re, you’re a big tough delta when you, you can’t enjoy Mario Kart. Like, you, you can’t enjoy a Thai latte broke. We know the truth, man. And, uh, and I just think people like that in those positions and situations, just kind of appreciate somebody seeing them as a fucking human being, first of all. Like, Hey, what do Mr. You know, badass dude who’s like done extraordinary things for humanity. Like, what do you have in common with me? You know? Do you, do you watch Netflix too? And like, eat too many cookies sometimes? And I, I, that’s how I think I get to rub shoulders and, you know, go on all these adventures,

Sevan Matossian (22:40):

Meaning you disarm them because you’re a real person with them. You connect on a level that’s not just a combative, uh, protector world.

Paulo Rubio (22:46):

Yeah. And I, I, I’m not, I’m not judgmental at all, man. Uh, for appeared in, in my life, this was my job. Okay. Um, I would get a phone call and I would have to fly somewhere to talk to a veteran because they’re ready to share their story on camera stuff that they’d not told their wives or their families. Uh, I had worked for this, uh, uh, veteran owned and operated, um, P T S D intervention and awareness, uh, campaign. And, uh, part of that was telling these stories. And I was the guy who they flew to meet a stranger, and then in half an hour are both bawling our eyes out. Mm. And then I gotta go edit that video and tell that story, recreate that story so that other people will be like, Hey, it’s Yeah, that, that happened to me too. And, uh, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (23:47):

Um, how I, I want to, I want to get to that in one second. By the way, have you, have you read The Longest Kill by Craig Harrison?

Paulo Rubio (23:55):

No. No. I think that’s no longer the record, by the way.

Sevan Matossian (23:59):

Oh, really? No. Oh, oh, you mean it’s not the longest Kill <laugh>. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For what it’s worth. That’s not even what the book’s about. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, that, I highly recommend that book. You’ve probably heard the stories. He, uh, he’s gonna be on the show soon. I read the book.

Paulo Rubio (24:14):

Super cool,

Sevan Matossian (24:14):

Man. What an insane story. What an insane, insane, um, yeah. This is, this is a brutal, brutal story about PTs d It is, absolutely. And I was, I could, it was one of those audiobook, I was so sad when it was over, but this is a remarkable book. I think you will love it.

Paulo Rubio (24:34):


Sevan Matossian (24:35):

It is, uh,

Paulo Rubio (24:36):

Audiobook audio audiobook is fine.

Sevan Matossian (24:38):

Okay. Yeah. I mean, basically, you know, the abuse abusive Childhood enters the military, uh, while he’s in the military, can’t get along, goes awol, tries to join the French Foreign Legion after the French Foreign Legion finds out that he’s awol, they send him back to the uk. Mm-hmm. He, he basically just cleans up dead bodies for four years, and he goes into excruciating detail about all the bodies he has to clean up and piece kids into bags. Yeah. And then he finally begs to be a sniper, and after two years, he gets to become a sniper. And it is, uh, I, I, i, I, I can’t even believe, I can’t, I can’t even believe this is real life. And then he comes back and he’s fucked. He’s fucked.

Paulo Rubio (25:16):


Sevan Matossian (25:17):


Paulo Rubio (25:17):

Fucked the most

Sevan Matossian (25:19):

So vulnerable.

Paulo Rubio (25:20):

Um, <laugh> commenting like dude’s vaping on the show. Sorry, man. <laugh>. Is that, is that cool?

Sevan Matossian (25:26):

Do do what you want. Do what you want.

Paulo Rubio (25:28):

Thanks. Um,

Sevan Matossian (25:29):

Hey, we had Hunter McIntyre. I don’t know if you know who that is. He’s one of the fittest men in the world. He’s a high rocks world champion. It’s this, okay. It’s this kind of, uh, cro, it’s like a CrossFit workout that this other company has taken and just made the whole event is around that. Yeah. I’ve had him on the show, and he’s baby. I’m just like, holy shit.

Paulo Rubio (25:49):

Cool. Yeah, we’re, we’re not, I mean, don’t let me into the vapor guy, please. It’s, it’s just my way of calling the nicotine. So I, I guess it’s semi better than smoking cigarettes or being on that chew stuff, which is awesome. But yeah, it’s just

Sevan Matossian (26:05):

Nicotine nicotine’s a powerful drug. Another, another fascinating topic on this show.

Paulo Rubio (26:09):

Yes, it is. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (26:10):

It’s very

Paulo Rubio (26:11):

Powerful. Yeah. But anyway, I was gonna say, like the, uh, speaking about that book and what you noted about it, one of, probably one of the most severe, um, cases or instances of, of P T S D that I’ve documented was from a combat cook. Like Yeah. The, the guy in the fob cooking up the meals, and I’m like, before this video was even released, you had all these people like kind of bagging on the dude. Like, oh, okay, well, you know what it is, man. It’s like all the infantry guys are like, what? But then some people kind of, they’re like, oh, I get it. But he was the dude, as soon as that, you know, um, truck of a n a dudes were gonna be offloaded and prepared for their families. Like basically casualties, he’s the first guy to volunteer to, to process, right. So he was around death and like, just the smells and, and the things he had to do. And, and, and, and, you know, he was like that bridge. He saw what, how families reacted to the, to the individual and, and how that impacted them. And he had to prepare in, in, in some way to, to hand the family back. So it’s, yeah,

Sevan Matossian (27:34):

It’s great. What’s Ana stand for?

Caleb Beaver (27:36):

Afghan. Afghan,

Paulo Rubio (27:37):


Sevan Matossian (27:38):

Sorry, one more time.

Caleb Beaver (27:39):

Afghan National Army. Oh. In, in the Air Force, the, like the chefs or like the cooks, they also have to do mortuary affairs. So they’re the ones that are also like processing bodies and stuff too. Yeah. So like, oh shit. You could have somebody who’s making lunch and then they get a casualty come in and they have to process them like that afternoon, essentially.

Paulo Rubio (28:01):

Yeah. It’s nuts, man. And I, I, this is just one thing that, it’s just a byproduct of ignorance from people and how quickly they comment online and we’re, we can, we can talk about, you know, a martial arts move all the same. It’s just people are generally ignorant of a lot of things that they, you know, want to appear to be experts at.

Sevan Matossian (28:30):

And it’s easy because they’re behind, they’re sitting behind their computer, they’re on their phone on a subway, and they can just spout off.

Paulo Rubio (28:35):

Yeah, I do.

Sevan Matossian (28:36):

So, so at at nine years old, you’re already, um, famil you’ve already learned your body pretty well from just exploring Manila. Yeah. And, and being a free range kid, it sounds like.

Paulo Rubio (28:45):

Yeah. <laugh> nice term. I love it. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (28:47):

And then you come to the United States in or in to Toronto, and, uh, do you pick up any sports? What do you do to keep yourself busy and start moving? Do you, do you do sports? Do you do martial arts? Do you do anything like that?

Paulo Rubio (28:59):

No. Um, I, I, I did a year of moi Thai. I did a year of this thing, which was like a blend of karate and something else. But I’ve always been outside. I’ve always played, um, I’ve always wrestled with my friends. Um, I just loved controlled fighting. Like even in high school, I wasn’t like a punk, but I wanted to fight, so I made friends with big guys and the tough guys. And then I even organized one thing where we’d go to the Y M C A lay down mats and just kind of play fight. Wow. I was, I never, I’ve never really taken any formal class, like in the Filipino martial arts, in the bladed arts. I’ve never taken regularly scheduled classes. I’ve never subscribed to one instructor. I was just fortunate to have crafted a career that allowed me to travel and seek out experts. And because they know, like, I’m not gonna be, you know, I go to some, you know, highly touted grand master.

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