#711 – FitWars Pre-Show | Tetlow vs. Mertens

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Money. Eric Brandt. Nice job with Garrett. Uh, just purely just Perley. Savan, absolutely. I do this podcast hoping one day it will make enough money so I won’t end up accidentally selling one of my houses to fucking put food on my table.

JR Howell (00:15):

Was, was one of my houses a humble rag?

Sevan Matossian (00:18):

<laugh>? I don’t know. I don’t even mean to brag when you’re as great as me. I, it just happens <laugh>. But I want to tell you, uh, there’s nothing I, I can’t tell you how hard this, uh, DM hit me this morning, and, and I was o I was o smiling like I was on mushrooms. It was, it was just crazy. Absolutely insane. I want, I want to read this to you, to you guys. We had a guest on the other day named Garrett Clinton. Hi. Good morning, Caleb. Good morning, Jr. Good morning, Mr. Suza. I is Mac growing his hair out? Like I’ve heard that, like I heard that like three times yesterday. <laugh>, it’s about to be cut. What? Fuck do I know what fucking news newsman look at? I like the way Jr’s looking at his wife. She’s a fucking, like, she’s a steak

Mattew Souza (01:08):


Sevan Matossian (01:10):

Um, this is, someone wrote this after seeing the Garrett, Garrett, Garrett, uh, Clinton podcast. If you have not seen that podcast and you have kids, then you, you’re making a huge mistake. Uh, I I promise you, uh, if, if you want to be a good person and you’re not sure if you are, and you, and whether you have empathy or not, and you haven’t seen that, you need to see that. I wanna say that it’s probably one of the most valuable podcasts on the internet today. It’s a subjective opinion, but I, I, I just can’t, um,


I just can’t emphasize enough. Okay? So I got this dm, I got it this morning. I didn’t e I I asked if I could read it and I didn’t get a response, but I’m gonna read it anyway cause it doesn’t have the person’s name on it. So here we go. I mean, the person didn’t have time to respond. Good morning, Sev. I just wa finished your podcast with Garrett, and I wanted to reach out to say thanks again for doing what you do. When I first saw the thumbnail was completely uninterested in watching a podcast about a lesbian, but I should have known by now that when it comes to you and your content, the person matters far more than the label. And she could not be, and she would not be the annoying woke type. I do not agree with any of the ideas of the rainbow people, but I also believe that we are all children of God, and as representatives of him here on Earth, we also need to love all people regardless of what we think.


So I checked my initial feelings of judgment and turned in to hear a perspective of life that I figured might be very aggravating to me, but at the same time might also give me better perspective and help me to have a softer heart on a subject that I disagree with. I enjoyed the podcast very, very much. I love the questions you asked, and I love how recognized their validity and gave straightforward and honest, honest answers rather than the backwards messaging that runs rampant these these days. Basically saying fatherhood is not needed and is overrated. Here it comes, here comes, here comes the hammer. Ready. As a black person, it bothers me to know that upon first, look, there are subconscious ideas that people have about me because of media, and they would be shocked to know that I wholeheartedly disagree with most of what the world says I stand for just because of my skin color. And the irony is I projected that exact same thinking onto Garrett just by seeing the picture of the podcast. Sorry for writing so much. I don’t think I’ve done justice with words how much I appreciated that one. But all I can say is thanks again. So, so, so much for your podcast, your time, your candor, and your passion.

Mattew Souza (03:54):


Sevan Matossian (03:55):


Mattew Souza (03:58):

What a nice note. There you go. Probably to stick to that first one, <laugh>. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (04:14):

Don’t tell me what to do. Um, man. Man, oh man, guys, just fucking love it. Just love it. It, it’s, now it’s not. And I get a lot of very, very cool dms, but now I’ve had two that it’s just like, I’m done. We did it. I’m done.

Mattew Souza (04:40):

It only

Caleb Beaver (04:40):

Took us 700 shows this time instead of the 500.

Sevan Matossian (04:43):

Say, say that again, Caleb.

Caleb Beaver (04:45):

It only took us 700 shows.

Sevan Matossian (04:47):

I know, right?

Mattew Souza (04:48):


Caleb Beaver (04:49):

And that’s it. 200 more than you wanted.

Sevan Matossian (04:52):

Uh, good morning, Mrs. Howell,

Mattew Souza (04:54):

Becca said, said, good

Sevan Matossian (04:56):

Morning. Good morning, Mrs. Howell. Good morning.

Mattew Souza (04:59):

Good morning, <laugh>. She gone.

Sevan Matossian (05:02):

Hey, that, that’s, uh, that’s Jr. Show one that was JR a year ago. That’s about as, uh, interactive as JR. Was on his first

Mattew Souza (05:09):

Show. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (05:11):

Y uh, now he’s rubbing in his wife’s face. Yo, what’s wrong? Uh, Jan Clark. Good morning, Kenneth. Good morning, Patrick. Good morning, Damien. Good morning, Omar. Cornejo. Cornejo. Good morning. Matt Burns. Austin Hartman. Kenneth Dlap. Heidi Kru, the Shiz. Get your graphics at the shiz. Um, Ken O’Connor, Elise Carr, red. Alex Mallard. Quack. Quack. Hey, every time I see Alex Mallard’s, um,

Mattew Souza (05:36):

Quack, quack,

Sevan Matossian (05:37):

Um, profile pick, I think of Legally Blonde.

Mattew Souza (05:42):

Uh, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (05:43):

Is it from that movie or do you think that’s really her?

Mattew Souza (05:46):

I think that’s really her.

Sevan Matossian (05:47):

Yeah. Crazy. Um, Arby, should we start early by saying Sevana is the funniest guy ever? Sorry. He said he wanted that Ju said just once. Thank you. Sorry. Well, that makes me feel good. Dickhead

Mattew Souza (06:02):


Sevan Matossian (06:02):

Mark Moss. Good morning. Key, Matt. Yeah, right, right.

Mattew Souza (06:08):

Spot on. Awesome. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (06:14):

<laugh>. That was an accident. That was amazing. <laugh>. Uh, rb. Good morning, Jeremy. Good morning, Alex. It’s me. She says it’s me. It’s me. It’s me. She says It’s me. Okay. All right. Jeffrey Birchfield, uh, thanks for the, um, nice DM yesterday. Jeffrey. Uh, always love hearing from you brother. Um, one of the real athletes, uh, coming on, are we gonna see Mertons and Telo? You are going to see Mertons Nello, uh, Susie, you’ll send them links at some point?

Mattew Souza (06:42):


Sevan Matossian (06:43):

Okay. Uh, I want to show you guys an Instagram post that someone sent me that I didn’t, um, quite understand and I want to know if you guys understand it. Can you, can you pull that one up? Uh, Caleb. Caleb, the only Caleb is the only man in podcasting in the podcasting world that’s allowed to eat while he podcast, by the way.

Mattew Souza (07:03):


Sevan Matossian (07:04):

You. No one else should ever do that.

Mattew Souza (07:05):

Oh, it doesn’t. So respectfully and silently too. Like, I don’t even notice if

Sevan Matossian (07:09):

You did. No

Mattew Souza (07:09):

One. I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t have noticed.

Sevan Matossian (07:11):

And I’ve never seen any, I keep waiting for someone to talk shit about him eating on the show. No one ever does. If, if anyone else were to eat, like if Chase were on here eating, people would be like, what’s Chase doing? What’s cha Why is Chase eating?

Mattew Souza (07:23):


Sevan Matossian (07:23):

Shit. <laugh>. Uh, okay, so this is an Instagram post. Someone sent to me and I wrote back, I didn’t get it. I don’t get it. And they had to explain it to me, and once they explained it to me, I felt like a jackass. It says, you can’t just respect the penis, you’ve gotta

Mattew Souza (07:43):


Sevan Matossian (07:46):

Thank you Caleb. <laugh>, thank you. Just walk. Thank you,

Mattew Souza (07:51):


Sevan Matossian (07:52):

Just, we all doing a little house cleaning. Hmm. Okay. I didn’t even, that’s, that’s amazing, right? That’s amazing. Okay. I also wanna start to show this morning I’m showing you guys what strong looks like. In case you didn’t know I was dropping a deuce this morning, I opened this Instagram <laugh>, I cannot, I cannot believe is, is this just ridiculous? This is 220 fucking pounds.

Mattew Souza (08:22):


Sevan Matossian (08:23):

Here. Hold it. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Power clean To hang clean with two 20. This is strong, right?

Mattew Souza (08:43):


Sevan Matossian (08:44):

Just pretty strong.

Mattew Souza (08:46):

Strong to me. Serviceable.

Sevan Matossian (08:49):

Serv, okay. I mean,

Mattew Souza (08:49):

What, well, in one context,

Sevan Matossian (08:52):

Or I mean, normal human beings, I mean, can all the game, can all the games, girls games, athletes do that? Every single one? I mean, can, can Rebecca Fusili do that? Let’s start, let’s start down there with, um, petite and, um, lucky to make it to the games.

Chase Ingraham (09:05):


Sevan Matossian (09:07):

Rebecca, I know you’re watching. Can you or can’t you?

Chase Ingraham (09:12):

That’s a good question.

Sevan Matossian (09:13):

Thank you.

Chase Ingraham (09:14):

What was her complexes from semi-finals? Because that complex is harder and I feel like they all did somewhat close to that.

Sevan Matossian (09:24):

Was she gonna go for another one? Jr’s not even impressed. He’s scratching his nuts.

JR Howell (09:30):

No, I’m actually looking at the syndicate leaderboard. She was at syndicate, right? Chase? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (09:35):


Chase Ingraham (09:37):

Machine F

Sevan Matossian (09:38):

Syndicate. Uh, oh, here we go. Rebecca just did hand clean at 2 25 or 2 35. Oh, the

Chase Ingraham (09:42):

Other day she was at the max. Wow. Oh wow. Same thing. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (09:48):

Crazy. All right, well thank you Patrick. I just, I I just can’t believe she can hold onto the bar.

JR Howell (09:55):

So she hit 200 pounds in that complex.

Chase Ingraham (09:58):

Okay. And that was a power clean front squat hang, clean jerk or something like that. Three cleans. Three cleans and a two

JR Howell (10:07):

Skirt squats. One jerk.

Chase Ingraham (10:08):

Oh yeah. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (10:10):

Alright. Right. Sorry. Camil. You’re not that strong. I was just taking a deuce and was overwhelmed. <laugh>. Okay. Uh, I, um, c could you play that YouTube video? Th this is, um, uh, the YouTube video. I chase, I keep congratulating myself about, I don’t know if you’ve seen it yet.

Chase Ingraham (10:26):


Sevan Matossian (10:29):

You thought that got by me yesterday.

Chase Ingraham (10:31):

No, I sent it to you. I sent it to you on purpose. Just to keep, you just wind up the

Sevan Matossian (10:35):

Toy. You think that got by me yesterday? <laugh>? Um, so, so right, right here. Okay. Can you just play the first 11 seconds here? We own this video. I, it’s funny cuz I’d never noticed this until this morning.

Sevan Matossian (10:47):

Affiliate. That completely goes unnoticed. And that is the fact that the CrossFit affiliate system is a small business miracle. The barrier of entry is low. The quality of

Sevan Matossian (10:58):

Prof. Look at this guy in the red shirt. This is how JR looks at his wife.

Chase Ingraham (11:02):

<laugh>, you’re

JR Howell (11:05):

Not wrong enamored.

Sevan Matossian (11:07):

I don’t know where we got this clip from, but this looks like to totally one of those d e I clips, doesn’t it? Look it. They got the kid, they got the man, they got the little older kid, then they got the woman, and then they got some dude who’s just, that dude was for surely in Vietnam, and he’s, and he is working through some P T S D right now. I mean, look at him.

Chase Ingraham (11:26):


Sevan Matossian (11:27):

Is insane. That, look, listen, don’t look at anyone like that unless you’re about to fucking,

Chase Ingraham (11:32):

It’s the only look he’s got since No, yeah. I wish my athletes would all look at me like that when explaining the workout.

Sevan Matossian (11:39):

I mean, my goodness,

Chase Ingraham (11:40):

They’re all somewhere else. Yeah. A bunch of cats. Yes. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (11:44):

I think he’s gonna tuck a napkin in his shirt and pull out a fork and a knife like in the cartoons.

Chase Ingraham (11:50):


Sevan Matossian (11:53):

Oh my goodness. Okay. Uh, and we’re we’re almost to the show. People we’re almost, we’re almost to fit words, we’re almost to fit words. I, I want to, um, point out, uh, this, um, can you play the one that says spam here? This is a little bit of a longer clip, but this is, I wanna talk to you guys about common sense here and, and then we’ll, this will be a nice segue into what we’re going to, um, talk about this morning. Common sense.

Speaker 7 (12:16):

It’s the food that they think is the same is not the same anymore.


You know, everybody’s for free choice, whether we are liberal or whether we are conservative. We’ve all got that streak in us. But the fact is, you cannot have free choice unless you have an informed choice. And you can’t have an informed choice if they’re lying about what’s on the label. What about Pam? Cooking spray? Everybody knows what Pam is. It’s some kind of little healthy oil with compressed air that you spray it and he gets on your pants. It’s not compressed air that you know, and they don’t tell you, but it’s butane and propane. People don’t understand that they’re spraying lighter fluid on their children’s hot cakes. And it’s, and it’s fabulously successful, but we can sue their pants off. It’s the food

Sevan Matossian (13:09):

<laugh>. Wait, sue their pan. Listen, if you think that there’s anything that comes out of a fucking can that you should be spraying onto your food and it doesn’t set off red flags, you’re, you’re, you’re asleep. You’re just asleep. I’m just telling you, you’re asleep. You’re a fucking zombie and you’re asleep and you’re not paying attention and you just, you just don’t know how to think. Same thing with the microwave. Same thing with using any kind of plastic cooking utensils. You’re just asleep. You don’t get it. You’re not like, wait a second, I’m using this spatula that’s made of plastic and a pan that’s fucking boiling shit. And I don’t think some of that plastic, you’re just fucking not thinking Wake the fuck up. Don’t spray shit out of a fucking can onto your food. And with that same thinking process, you would be insane to think Scott Telo has a fucking chance against Colton Mertons.

Chase Ingraham (13:58):

<laugh>. What a transition.

Sevan Matossian (13:59):

Just use your fucking brain.

Chase Ingraham (14:02):

By the way, the microwave’s not that bad.

Sevan Matossian (14:04):

Uh, I’m just telling you, it doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t, I don’t have any, any, uh, proof about it, but I’m just, it doesn’t make sense. How is it the, it boils the water, but the inside still cold.

Chase Ingraham (14:12):

So the microwave uses,

Sevan Matossian (14:14):

Oh shit,

Chase Ingraham (14:15):

Here we go. Waves that

Sevan Matossian (14:16):

Actually taste went to Stanford people. Here we go.

Chase Ingraham (14:18):

Okay. I’m just saying the, the microwave, it uses water molecules inside the food and it makes ’em vibrate. And that’s what heats the food. That’s why your plate doesn’t catch on fire. There’s actually no radiation that’s harmful to humans in microwaves.

Sevan Matossian (14:33):

I don’t know.

Chase Ingraham (14:33):

Plastic, it’s a little bit different because plastic isn’t quite as, uh, it’s more towards the liquidy form. So then that’s when those molecules escape the plastic into the food. But

Sevan Matossian (14:45):

You sound like you’re, you sound like a groomer chase. You sound like you’re trying to convince me of something that I shouldn’t go down. That, uh, fair

Chase Ingraham (14:51):

Balance. I even hear about like, you know, science and truth, right? That was

Sevan Matossian (14:54):

Help. You know, I’m just telling you just, I, I just, I I don’t trust that fucking box that just heats shit up magically. And I don’t trust food that comes out of a spray can. Well,

Chase Ingraham (15:03):

It’s just changing the physics behind it. But

Sevan Matossian (15:05):

It’s, and maybe I’m, maybe I’m only right. Nine out of 10 times. I,

Chase Ingraham (15:08):

It’s just, you know, we wanted to educate people. I just wanted to educate people on it how microwaves

Sevan Matossian (15:13):

Were <laugh>. Thank you. I appreciate it. Hey, and, and in all fairness, it was kind of mean to say, say all that in front of JR since nine out of 10 of his neighbors just spray spam right into their fucking mouth.

Chase Ingraham (15:23):


JR Howell (15:24):

Spam. Yes. Not Pam. Spam.

Sevan Matossian (15:26):

Pamm Spam,

JR Howell (15:27):

All that. No, no, no. I think that’s right. Mystery meat spray. That’s, that’s probably off there.

Mattew Souza (15:32):

<laugh>. Hey, alls we need, is that sound? Bite the background music to that on, on a little, uh, track. So anytime you go on a run, we can just play that, that

Chase Ingraham (15:38):

Little, that little way. <laugh>. Yeah.

JR Howell (15:40):

I have a question. I have question for sev. I have a question for the, the video clip we just pulled up. Yes. How much inner turmoil was it to decide whether or not to put socks on for that

Sevan Matossian (15:50):

For Oh, my dude. Were

JR Howell (15:52):

You barefooted? Were you barefooted

Sevan Matossian (15:54):

First and No. No.

JR Howell (15:55):

You know what? I should probably put socks

Sevan Matossian (15:56):

On. No, but I, I’m disgusted at the, that I’m just disgusted at the whole filming of that. I almost fucking fired my guy, except I don’t pay him anything. He should have been like, Hey dude, those pants are too fucking tight. You look like Kermit the frog. You jackass. What are you trying to do? Get fucking butt humped. I looked, I look like a complete ass clown in that

Chase Ingraham (16:15):

<laugh> <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (16:18):

Stop. Stop. <laugh>, stop. Look at how tight Thoses pants are. It’s ridiculous.

Chase Ingraham (16:24):

It looks good. You looked so uncomfortable.

Sevan Matossian (16:26):

<laugh>. I am very uncomfortable. I’m I’m hating myself there. You’re

JR Howell (16:29):

Doing the old man sit. But you probably don’t literally you probably don’t ever sit like that.

Chase Ingraham (16:35):

No, he probably does <laugh>. Kayla,

Sevan Matossian (16:37):

Pull it down.

Chase Ingraham (16:38):

<laugh>. It’s just to put everybody at ease.

Sevan Matossian (16:45):

We did a, um, after the show back to picking on jr. We did a show, uh, the other day with JR. And then after the show we all hung out and we, I use satellite imagery from Google to look at the neighborhood. He lives in <laugh> and one of his neighbors just had Pam bottles all over their fucking front yard use Pam

Chase Ingraham (17:00):


Sevan Matossian (17:01):

<laugh>. They used it as decor.

Chase Ingraham (17:02):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. You used Pam bottles.

Sevan Matossian (17:05):

Fuck the South

Chase Ingraham (17:06):

Is crazy. Littered the streets with PAMs there.

JR Howell (17:12):

I mean, people here probably are like, what’s Pam? We just use Crisco. Is that not better?

Sevan Matossian (17:15):

Uh, JR has a pool and there’s a line of people there with buckets getting water for their house, drinking water from, for their houses.

Chase Ingraham (17:22):

I actually think Crisco might be better.

JR Howell (17:24):

I think it might be

Chase Ingraham (17:25):

<laugh>, the good old fashioned lard. Good old

JR Howell (17:28):


Chase Ingraham (17:28):

Yeah. The good old those the good days. Oh my God.

Sevan Matossian (17:31):

There is a, uh, an app and a, a website out there called Lo Lawnchair Leader Boarding. Um, you should go there now and register if you can open up another window. Uh, it’s Tyler Watkins, um, fantasy fitness league. And it, he has it set up so that, um, you can, the event that’s gonna happen at 10:00 AM at Hiller Fitz YouTube station today. If you want to participate and, and make it a game for you, you’ll be more invested in the, um, in, in the outcome between Scott Telo and Colton Merton’s with wad zombies, uh, fit Wars. But basically Tyler Watkins, you go on this launch. Share leader boarding. I’m not sure exactly how the game is set up this time. I’ve played it before. It’s really fun. It’s much more fun than I ever imagined it would become addicting, actually. And, uh, you get to play with other people. You can set up groups, but the cool thing is, is that Tyler’s donating money from people who register to Colton and, uh, Scott Telo, which I thought was really, really cool. They’ll probably make six or seven or $9 from that

Mattew Souza (18:32):

<laugh> <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (18:34):

Heavy dollar counts. Yeah. So that’s really cool. Um, ti so, uh,

Mattew Souza (18:41):

Six or

Sevan Matossian (18:42):

Seven Lawnchair leader boarding. Um, that’s the, somehow you have to find that on the internet and register now. It’s weird. I’m sick every other day a little bit. I woke up this morning Mucusy. Um, okay, so here in, uh, we are, what are, we’re 25 minutes away from Scott Telo joining us. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, we have an event that will take place at 10:00 AM It’s a one-on-one competition, uh, which there’s, uh, several implications around that being that it’s just one event and how to choose the winner. Um, do we have any, uh, chase we still have no idea what the workout is, right? We just know workout equipment.

Chase Ingraham (19:23):

Yes. Just the, uh, things that supplied from the, uh, mod zombies little equipment list.

Sevan Matossian (19:29):

And so the equipment and just because we see the equipment that, that, that doesn’t mean that we know what all the movements necessarily could be. There could still be something that requires no move, uh, no equipment. Right?

Chase Ingraham (19:43):

Yeah. Yeah. Which would be a good little, uh, curve ball.

Sevan Matossian (19:46):

Um, I assume Caleb’s pulling up the list, what are some of the movements that could be in there? That so, so we have a 45 pound bar, 4 45 pound plates and 2 25 pound plates. Gymnastic rings at muscle up height and then, and then the collars. Um, what could be in there? Uh, free stand free standing handstand pushups.

Chase Ingraham (20:12):

Maybe I

Sevan Matossian (20:13):


Chase Ingraham (20:14):

Squats. If they were to do something like a handstand pushup, I would assume they would probably put wall space on there. We’ve seen that in the open to designate things like wall walks and such as that. Maybe something that isn’t on the wall, but I mean, you could do pistols. You could do Oh, um, I mean, not that you’d see, uh, burpees are on the table, I think.

Sevan Matossian (20:37):

Right? Oh, burpees over the bar.

Chase Ingraham (20:40):

Over the bar. Uh, JR had a good idea that we were talking the other day.

Sevan Matossian (20:46):

He doesn’t wanna steal it. He’s gonna take, doesn’t wanna steal a jr. He doesn’t wanna steal

Chase Ingraham (20:49):

It. I was giving it to you. He said bur ring muscle ups was, uh,

JR Howell (20:52):

Muscle ups. Yeah. So you, if you just let them put the ring height at whatever height it needs to be at for them to do a muscle up and they’re both around the same height in general, it would still be like a level playing field. Well,

Chase Ingraham (21:05):

They didn’t say ring dip height, so it might not be burpee mus.

JR Howell (21:08):

Yeah. Just

Chase Ingraham (21:09):

Kidding. Uh, short Joe. No. Alright, cool. <laugh> also

JR Howell (21:14):

Alza <laugh>, you know, also Waap Polooza used that as one of their online qualifier movements and it’s something that we don’t typically see in qualifiers. So if they wanna,

Sevan Matossian (21:22):

So Waap Alza did do that. Uh, um, burpee, uh, ring Mus.

JR Howell (21:26):


Sevan Matossian (21:27):

Uh, what was the rep scheme on that? Do you, do you remember?

JR Howell (21:30):

Uh, I I wanna say it was, was it 12 shoulder to overhead? 12 burpee ring muscle up. And then

Chase Ingraham (21:42):

Was this last year?

JR Howell (21:44):

No, this was this year.

Chase Ingraham (21:45):

Oh, this year. Oh, this year. Yeah. Sorry, the last one. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the games did it in, uh, that little chipper they had in 2012.

Sevan Matossian (21:55):

Brutal combo. Right? Because tricep and chest in the, in the coming outta the bottom of the burpee. Yeah. And then, and then do you need your triceps again?

Chase Ingraham (22:02):

Same thing. Yeah. And then they did the 30 burpy ring muss up in 2013 regionals. Mm-hmm.

JR Howell (22:08):


Sevan Matossian (22:08):

Right. Uh, what about hand release pushups?

Chase Ingraham (22:13):

You hope you have a good judge?

Sevan Matossian (22:15):

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Gray area there.

JR Howell (22:17):

Yeah. Other movements that are on the, on the table using the rings could just be burpee to a ring touch. You know, they use that in 13.1. Most people did burpee to a ring touch with the snatch ladder or they could do toast to ring,

Chase Ingraham (22:27):

Please. No.

Sevan Matossian (22:29):

And, and we could see

Chase Ingraham (22:30):

Stuff. I’ll walk, I’ll walk off this show if it’s a <laugh>. Toes to rings.

Sevan Matossian (22:34):

<laugh>. Um, uh, why don’t you like that one?

Chase Ingraham (22:37):

I think it’s for, it’s a, a gimmicky, goofy movement that’s unnecessary.

Sevan Matossian (22:44):

You expect more from Brian and Hiller?

Chase Ingraham (22:46):

I would, yeah. Brian should know better.

Sevan Matossian (22:48):

He’s What about, um, pistols? Uh, holding a 25 pound plate.

Chase Ingraham (22:54):


Sevan Matossian (22:56):


Chase Ingraham (22:56):

Hold. 45 pound plate. They did 53 pounds at the games.

Sevan Matossian (23:00):

They were doing pistols with 53

Chase Ingraham (23:02):

Pounds. Cinco one.

Sevan Matossian (23:03):


Chase Ingraham (23:04):

Wow. Heavy deadli in, uh, pistols with the 53 pound kettlebell. Wow. Crying on the Deads. Yeah. I think every, uh, to your question, Sivan, I think most barbell movements are on the table because with this weight set, I see something that’s an ascending ladder of weights from 95 all the way up to 2 75. And I’m pretty sure every movement is on the table at those weights. Okay. Including thrusters. Like these dudes are strong and with the way this sets up, I see a 95, 1 35, 180 5, 2 25, 2 set five. Like everything’s on the table with these weights.

Sevan Matossian (23:42):

Um, so if if it, if it were like that it be the bar with the 25 pound plates on first. Yeah. That’s funny. I never even, I never didn’t even think that way. Um, what about, um, do you think this is just gonna be a couplet or a triplet or something like that? Or do you think that there’s gonna be, it could be something even like with a buy-in and then you go,

JR Howell (24:02):

I think it’ll just be a couplet.

Chase Ingraham (24:03):

Yeah, I do too.

Sevan Matossian (24:06):

Okay. So, so in all fairness, all that other talk was just gibberish. You think it’s just gonna be one kind of bar movement and some muscle ups.

JR Howell (24:13):

Yeah. And I was just trying to look back to see how many times Scott and Colton were in the same competition, if they were in the same competition other than Yeah, I mean I was really, really scrambling trying to find that. Um, I remember ring muscle ups being in the road qualifier in 2019. It was workout number four and it was just a seven minute am wrap of nine dead lifts at 2 75, which fits perfectly with this. These weights, you have 2 75 on the screen right there and three ring muscle ups for seven minutes. So that’d be really easy to watch. It would be really easy to count. And Colton actually won that workout on the online qualifier that year.

Sevan Matossian (24:54):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So you have seven minutes and whoever has the most reps at the end wins.

JR Howell (24:57):

Yep. Just go back and forth. 3 9 3 9 3 9 3 9 for seven minutes. What

Sevan Matossian (25:01):

About, what Corey’s saying here? Burpee over? Uh, no. No. Uh, um, uh, Jordan’s saying, uh, burpee over the camera man.

Chase Ingraham (25:08):

<laugh>, I could see it being some type of am rep for sure. I don’t think it’s gonna be for time just because of what the scoring was on lawn chair. I mean, if we’re just gonna take the equipment list of what they have and what the scoring is, they’re plus or minus reps. So we’re gonna talk

Sevan Matossian (25:26):

To us about what you mean by that. What the scoring is on longhair leader boarding. Cause there is,

Chase Ingraham (25:29):

So launch share, leader boarding, you have these bets and it, you can have, I think it’s like, uh, Colt Merton’s, my like three or less reps or four or more reps and then Telo three winning by three or less, or four or more. And then somehow like you just have tied as Sivan is like your only vet, the fifth option that they tie. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (25:50):

Do they have that? Do they have tie? I

Chase Ingraham (25:52):

Think so. Can’t What’s your pick? That was your pick. Yeah, it was like your pick, but like that was the only option. Just said like Sivan tie <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (25:58):

Oh, did it really say

Chase Ingraham (26:00):

That? Unless I read it wrong on the, on

JR Howell (26:02):

My, uh, no you didn’t. That’s what it said.

Chase Ingraham (26:03):

Okay. That’s what it says. Yeah. So it’s, it’s gotta be an am wrap of sorts in uh, more truncated timeframe just for excitement purposes. And

Sevan Matossian (26:11):

So we know it’s an AMRAP because we know it’s gonna be a number of reps at the end. A hundred percent an amrap.

Chase Ingraham (26:17):

Yeah. And I think it’s gonna be heavier weights and it’s gotta be something like ring muscles, burpee muscles is a good idea too, just because it adds a third component to this. But I think it’s gonna be heavy and tough because Yes, Ryan, I remember Rush Club, um, because the reps are so close on the betting line, which means these reps are not gonna be easy to

JR Howell (26:37):

Get. Right.

Chase Ingraham (26:38):

Right. If these were like light thrusters and burpees over the bar, like there’s gonna be a bigger discrepancy than three or four as the betting line. So I think you’re gonna have challenging movements. It’s gonna get heavy or it’ll start heavy and something like a ring muscle per, per just like these are gonna be tough reps to separate themselves with.

Sevan Matossian (26:57):

Could, could we see something where, where it, the way the weight goes down and then we see them just race at the end. So you start off it’s, it’s four and four at the heaviest weight and then four and four at a little lighter and then four and four a little lighter. And then you get down to the 95 pounds and it’s, you know, four squat cleans with 95 4, uh, ring muscle ups. You just gotta, you know, pay the man up front.

Chase Ingraham (27:19):

Yes. But if it got lighter, I think that would have a bigger discrepancy of reps. Yep. Like if someone got stuck, stuck early and then they’re gonna be 20 reps ahead by the end. I I think it’s, I think if, if it’s gonna change in rep scheme, it’s gonna be an ascending weight with descending reps.

Sevan Matossian (27:35):

Uh, good, good question from Heidi. No tiebreaker. Disgusting. Tiebreakers are, so the, we’re it’s 2023 we tiebreaker.

JR Howell (27:46):

So if you had, it’s

Chase Ingraham (27:47):

Not soccer,

JR Howell (27:48):

Right? Let’s just say you had a a am wrap of um, let’s just say squat cleans and ring muscle ups. So they did like 1 35 and then 180 5 and then 2 25 and then 2 75.

Sevan Matossian (28:00):

And that’s the traditional way. Sure.

JR Howell (28:03):

And let’s just say after every round of 10 cleans there were 10 ring muscle ups, whatever they’re, they’re at least close to close enough in fitness level to where there’s really not gonna be that much separation until probably that last barbell, which is kind of what you want. But it also would be very unlikely for them to tie in that scenario.

Sevan Matossian (28:26):

Is, is is 2 75. Um, is that a weight that would stop either of those guys in any, in any of these movements?

JR Howell (28:35):

No. We’ve seen squat clean ladders in 16, 16 2 and 19. Two go up to three 15 for reps.

Sevan Matossian (28:43):

And we both know Telo and Colton are absolutely animals strong as oxes.

JR Howell (28:47):

Really strong squatters. Yeah.

Chase Ingraham (28:50):

Okay. The only two movements that 2 75 is gonna hang ’em up with would be like, uh, thrusters. Thrusters. Snatches. Those thrusters and snatches usually have very similar Max Maxes.

JR Howell (29:04):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Chase Ingraham (29:05):

And so maybe an overhead squat, but like front squat, back squat. It doesn’t say rack, so it’s probably not gonna be a back squat. I think Mo, anything they do weight wise is coming off the floor.

Sevan Matossian (29:19):

Um, did they know the, did they make the workout first or did they get the guys first?

Chase Ingraham (29:26):

That’s a good question. I hope they got the guys first.

Sevan Matossian (29:30):

Okay. So you think that there was some tailoring of this workout. You would think that maybe wad Zombie wants it to be a close race. So let’s say it was Colton against Falkowski, they would find something that both of them could be competitive at. They, for the viewers you think that they have the viewers in mind? Guys? Okay. Wad Zombie saying guys first. Okay. So we do also know that this workout was probably tailored for them, which is are they, I mean, I know they looked similar.

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