#710 – All Things CrossFit | Not ONE Negative Comment About Brian

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. We’re live. Good morning, David. Good morning, CrossFit. Corey. Good morning, Jessica. Good morning, Kenneth. Bam. That’s right. Haha. Forever waiting on SevOne. Oh, don’t do that. Uh, I wanna tell you a couple things. These shirts are now available over at Vindicate. These are the Miami shirts. We will be in Miami, and we will be talking about Miami today with Brian Friend. The event there is called Waap Palooza, put on by Loudon Live, and we will be there in full force, uh, this year, giving you the behind the scenes live like we did last year. It was probably, at the time, it was probably one of our crowning achievements. It was pretty cool, uh, especially that day that they got, um, rained out and we were able to, uh, stay live via iPhone. And, uh, the crew over there has been awesome, uh, with us. I believe the lady’s name is, uh, Shayna. Brian. Do you know Sasha? I’m sorry.

Brian Friend (00:57):


Sevan Matossian (00:57):

Sasha, sorry. Sorry. Sasha. Uh, um, Matt Suza has the honor of meeting her over at the, uh, ZELOS games. He said she was a wonderful lady, and I’m excited to work with her this year. I do believe she has replaced, um, last year’s, uh, media director. And so I’m excited. Um, I know Sasha’s gonna absolutely murder it. What’s that? That mean? You were the best media there last year. That’s your media award for Bes Media. All the,

Brian Friend (01:24):

This means I whooped Scott Pei’s as in games the other day.

Sevan Matossian (01:27):

Oh, geez. You interrupted my story for that. Uh, Scott Polinsky is, uh, Brian’s, um,

Brian Friend (01:35):

Uh, dis golf

Sevan Matossian (01:36):

Front, ultimate Frisbee partner.

Brian Friend (01:38):

<laugh>, I knew you were gonna say that.

Sevan Matossian (01:39):

Uh, Hans, good morning. Uh, Elise Car Rid, uh, yesterday we had a show. Yes, Brian.

Brian Friend (01:47):

I first met Sasha in, uh, in London. It strengthened depth during the sanctions. I was in the sidelines, uh, working for the broadcast there. And sh saddled up next to me, introduced herself, and we’ve had a good working relationship. Uh, different competitions every year, uh, ever since then.

Sevan Matossian (02:04):

And, uh, Brian, uh, you’ll be happy to know after his, uh, debut at the Zes Games, uh, commentating, and then after he fucking absolutely smashed it, uh, for the Dubai, um, event. He will also be the, uh, head commentator at, uh, waap Palooza this year. And that’s gonna be exciting. I wanna say this about, oh, that’s not true.

Brian Friend (02:28):


Sevan Matossian (02:29):

Oh, uh, I, I do wanna say this, um,

Brian Friend (02:33):

But I will be involved with the broadcast.

Sevan Matossian (02:35):

Yeah. He will be involved with, that’s what I meant. If you look at all the year, if you, if you watch when, when I watch the CrossFit Games, or when I watch any of these events, I watched them on my huge 90 inch TV in my living room with my feet up. And I watched You

Brian Friend (02:50):

Remember when 60 Inch used to be a big tv?

Sevan Matossian (02:51):

I do. I remember when fucking 40, 30, 40 was crazy.

Brian Friend (02:56):

I was hoping you would take it all the way back there so we could just get a perspective for how long you’ve been around.

Sevan Matossian (03:01):

Even 32 inches was nuts. I, I used to watch a little black and white TV like this that I thought was cool. <laugh> No, no shit, I’m not even joking. And, um, uh, when you see the comments scroll by, you will see a lot of really mean comments in unjust comments where I did not see just on when, when I watched these events, because we watched them on YouTube. So on the screen, you can have the comments going by and they’re just ripping on people. And I wanna say that, uh, during, uh, Dubai, I did not see one negative comment about Brian. I’ve never ever, ever, ever, ever seen that. Do you know what would happen if I commentated? Holy shit.


Okay. Uh, see it. It’s nuts. Congratulations. Uh, yesterday we had Garrett Clinton on, uh, CrossFitter out of Long Island. Um, and this was the, one of the responses I got. I will be reading. I got so many responses. I I can’t wait to speak to Garrett to see all the responses that she got. But I just wanna share this with you, um, to start the show, uh, just because it’s important for everyone to hear, uh, this, this, um, I’ll be posting this on my Instagram. If the person, um, who sent it to me says I can post it, but I wanna read you a line from what they wrote me.


The biggest thing that I hope you share with your boys is that no adult has any reason to have a secret with you. If my parents had emphasized that to me from a young age, I don’t think I would’ve been groomed by a pedophile. Because one of the questions I had asked Garrett Clinton was, uh, why didn’t you tell anyone? And you were molested from the age of eight to, uh, 12. Why didn’t you tell anyone? And, and her advice, and this is great, if my parents had emphasized to me from a young age, I don’t think anyone, I, sorry, lemme repeat that again. If my parents had emphasized to me from a young age, I don’t think anyone would’ve been groomed by a pedophile. And that emphasis is, um, uh, no adult has any reason to have a secret with you. Tell your kids that no adult has any reason. Why does my, uh, exposure keep changing? No adult has any reason to have a secret with you. I’m gonna tell my boys that today, none, no adult.

Brian Friend (05:18):

Well, some might have a reason to, but it’s not a good reason.

Sevan Matossian (05:21):

Right? Thank you. Uh, your show has really changed my perspective on so many things, uh, as a 23 year old thank you from the bottom of my heart, you’re very welcome. Thank you for listening.

Brian Friend (05:31):

Thank you. Want no secret,

Sevan Matossian (05:32):


Brian Friend (05:33):

There’s an underground group of people who follow this show, who have a running every show that, um, a certain person comes on, they have a bet. It’s an over under bet of when he’ll say that something for the first time

Sevan Matossian (05:45):

When he’ll say what? For the first

Brian Friend (05:47):

Time? Anything. Oh, instead of just sitting there staring at the camera looking handsome.

Sevan Matossian (05:52):

Oh, yeah. Oh. So if Caleb talks, they have to drink.

Brian Friend (05:55):

No, they put a bet. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (05:57):


Brian Friend (05:57):

Awesome. Might be seven minutes, or 10 minutes or 15 minutes. And then you take sides.

Sevan Matossian (06:01):


Brian Friend (06:02):

That’s an or, or they played it like the price is right where you pick a number and whoever has the number that’s closest without going over wins.

Sevan Matossian (06:09):

I read in the YouTube comments, this, this fucking hurt me so bad. I hate it. When the YouTube comments heard me, it said, God, Caleb’s so funny. Fucking broke my heart.

Brian Friend (06:20):


Sevan Matossian (06:21):

Or die for one YouTube comment that says that sev, you’re so funny. What the fuck did Caleb say? I know I didn’t go back and watch that show. Uh, thank you, mark. Thank you. Thank you, mark. I’m not a big, uh, I’m not a big color fan. Like I struggle with the whole Miami scene, but, um, these are the shirts and, um, yeah, it’s cool. It’s

Brian Friend (06:44):

Cool. Shirt. Did you do something to make the background behind you darker today?

Sevan Matossian (06:47):

No, I don’t know what’s happening. I, I, something, maybe something got bumped on my camera or something. Because the exposure keeps shifting. Not the Yeah, the exposure. Like, I get darker and lighter. It, it should be just set to, uh, Manuel. And it shouldn’t be like, you’re

Caleb Beaver (07:00):

Not squaring the shot either.

Brian Friend (07:02):


Sevan Matossian (07:02):

Minutes. Thank you. That’s driving me crazy too. That’s just cuz I’m lazy. And after the show I have to pee and run away instead of making the adjustments. Jessica Valen viz Val Jessica Valenzuela Seon. You were so funny that you make me pee my pants. Well, thank you. Dang. And the lies just keep pouring out. Dangs, you were so funny and handsome. Um, I want to, uh, bring up, uh, we have a little public service announcement here, um, that I wanted to share with you guys. Just the first few seconds of this video. Um, Caleb, we’ll pull it up here before we get to the meat and potatoes of this show. Uh, it’s, it’s only the first like 15 or 20 seconds that matter. Here we go. Action.

Caleb Beaver (07:53):

If you’ve got big titties, you already know that. Squishing your melons into an oblivion, trying to do things like chest support. Dumbo rose, isn’t it? One option would be to substitute in landmine barbell rose. If no landmine attachment, you can create one by popping their barbell into a corner or between two bumper plates. I used a handle from a cable machine, but you could either use a hoodie. So there you

Sevan Matossian (08:13):

Go. If you have big titties, just make sure. Unfortunately, this girl has pronouns in her Instagram. Guys, take that shit down. You, it just screams I’m an idiot. Okay. Um, I mean, it just means you can’t critically think and, and, and you hate people and you wanna put people into, uh, you, you wanna force people into things. It’s, it’s not nice. You think it’s nice, it’s not. Okay. And, uh, finally, um, I I want to ask Brian, uh, way off the CrossFit board, um, Brian, do you know what’s about to happen in your city on January 1st in Chicago? Are you fucking aware of what’s about to happen? And are you

Brian Friend (08:50):

Scared? I don’t live in the city limits of Chicago and I don’t know, but you feel free to tell, tell me.

Sevan Matossian (08:55):

Okay. Here, here we go. Uh, Chicago. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Sorry. First, first, listen to this and then I’m gonna, and then I’m gonna read something, um, to, to you.

Caleb Beaver (09:14):

Let him do it. Let it be

Sevan Matossian (09:19):

We have two gangs shooting across the street from each other, and the dispatcher is saying, let it be. Um, but, uh, if you go to, oh, the top one Purge in Chicago. Oh, I, you guys have to see this. This is fucking nuts. Well,

Brian Friend (09:31):

You know why he’s saying let it be Right?

Sevan Matossian (09:33):

So they don’t get shot?

Brian Friend (09:35):

No, because they’ve been told not to intervene.

Sevan Matossian (09:37):

Oh. Oh,

Brian Friend (09:38):


Sevan Matossian (09:39):

Oh, okay. Well, that’s fair. They did that shit in, um, uh, California also. Uh, but look, go up to Purge in Chicago. So there’s this law that’s passed in Chicago that’s gonna take effect January 1st. It’s called the Safety Act. And it’s crazy because it’s crazy watching people try to defend this law. It’s absolutely batshit crazy. I contacted Hocus who went to jail for four years, um, uh, and then was found innocent. What he thinks about it, and he says it’s a, the full blown per act. It’s fucking nuts. It’s, this is fucking absolutely nuts. I wanna read you two lines from this and then we’ll get Brian’s opinion. Um, those that enacted this, uh, safety act, believe it will reduce arrest and limit those put away based of on the crime. Well, of course it’s gonna do that. I’m gonna tell you why in a second. Those that instated the act believe it will reduce arrest. And those put away based on the crime. Well, yeah. If you get rid of laws, you will absolutely reduce the number of arrests. This is fucking nuts. Now scroll down a little bit more. Okay. There are, there are 12 non detain offenses where the law would end cash bail. The laws include second degree murder, arson, drug-induced homicide, robbery, kidnapping, aggravated battery burglary, inti burglary, intimidation, aggravated driving under the influence, fleeing and alluding, um, drug offenses and threatening a public official. As of January 1st, there’s gonna be an adjustment to those, what it takes to arrest someone for those. And then those people would be released and you can’t hold them with, uh, bail. Brian, are you scared?

Brian Friend (11:28):

You’re expect, you’re really expecting me to get my opinion on

Sevan Matossian (11:31):

This. No, I’m not, but I just, I just can’t. I just, I’m, I’m concerned for you to be honest, but I’m also kind of excited. I’m excited to, I’m excited to watch Just Crimes. It’s gonna be crazy. I mean, Chicago’s already so dangerous for people who don’t know. It’s not like my neighborhood where I can just walk around in my underwear.

Brian Friend (11:50):

Some people would consider that quite, quite,

Sevan Matossian (11:53):

Actually That’s true.

Brian Friend (11:54):

<laugh>. That’s true. Not for You Haven for everyone that has to

Sevan Matossian (11:57):

See it. I haven’t asked my neighbors, but that’s, uh, very possible. Uh, tomorrow, uh, back to CrossFit or, or CrossFit for the first time here, uh, tomorrow I’m at the very top where it says Fit Wars. Uh, tomorrow, um, uh, oh. Welcome everyone to the All things CrossFit Brian French show with Sea Beaver. Uh, tomorrow, uh, uh, fit Wars will launch its first inaugural event, uh, two fantastic athletes. I think we’re gonna have a blast watching them compete. Uh, the athletes are Colton Mertons and, uh, Scott Telo, uh, both, uh, hardcore serious. Uh, the, the, what I know of them, these guys, these guys are gonna go. Um, these are both guys who always leave it on the floor. Uh, impressive athletes. It’s gonna be fantastic. Has Scott been to the games, Brian?

Brian Friend (12:50):

Yep. But okay. Uh, only the online version.

Sevan Matossian (12:55):

Okay. So, uh, both games athletes, uh, Colton Merton’s, uh, obviously a, um, hometown, uh, favorite, uh, Patrick Clark. Can’t believe Sev got Brian on while Croatia Morocco game is on. I, I can’t believe it either, by the way. Let’s not bring that up again.

Brian Friend (13:12):

It’s a front heated start, by the way. One, one

Sevan Matossian (13:15):

Oh already

Brian Friend (13:16):

10 minutes in.

Sevan Matossian (13:17):

Wow. Uh,

Brian Friend (13:19):

This is pretty common in the third place game for there to be a lot of goals and just a little bit more open flow than a, than many of the other games.

Sevan Matossian (13:25):

Kinda like an all-star game. Like they’re just going,

Brian Friend (13:28):

Yeah. I mean, you wanna win the third place, but like you were so close to the ultimate glory of making the World Cup final and you didn’t, so it’s

Sevan Matossian (13:35):

Fun. Does the winner get more money, Brian?

Brian Friend (13:38):


Sevan Matossian (13:39):

Do they have to share it with the girls team? Okay. Uh, Christine Young. I saw a giant blow up Christmas Beaver <laugh> in my bedroom last night. I saw a giant blow up Christmas Beaver inflatable and thought of Caleb yesterday.

Brian Friend (13:57):

How sweet of you.

Sevan Matossian (13:59):

That’s good.


Uh, real. Brian and the crew did a hell of a job breaking down Fit Wars yesterday. Yes. If you would like to, um, watch something that’s, um, part Three Stooges and part, uh, sports Center. You can go over to Barbell Spin and watch the video of, uh, uh, Brian Spin, uh, Mike Halpin and Tyler Watkins. Uh, talk about the event they’ve already started breaking down. You can also go over to Jason’s CF Media. He also has a video breaking down the event, which just shows you how slow things are in the CrossFit space right now, that everyone’s giving us so much attention. Um, the

Brian Friend (14:40):

Event is this timing to, uh, by, by Nick to plan it for now.

Sevan Matossian (14:44):

F Fabulous. I agree. Uh, wad zombie it. This, this event is being, um, hosted by Wad Zombie. Uh, it starts tomorrow at 10:00 AM Pacific Standard Time. It will be streamed on, um, Hiller Fitz channel, which is complete bullshit. Uh, and there will be a pre-show that will be better than the actual show. And that will start over here on this channel at 7:00 AM Yep.

Brian Friend (15:09):

All of the completely insensitive Americans are going on that show that have no respect for the World Cup final

Sevan Matossian (15:15):

Exa <laugh>. Please, please. Um, you can, oh, I, I wanna show you one more thing too, in case you’ve never seen it before. If you click on that, um, uh, Jason CF Media YouTube channel, for those of you who have never seen Jason, and, uh, you wanna see, uh, they used to have these commercials when I was a kid, that what a difference a day makes. You can see Jason’s CF Media in his regular street clothes at the beginning. <laugh> <laugh>. Well, no, there he is afterwards. So there he is, all cleaned up in a suit. And there he is not in a suit. Let’s look at him in a suit again.


And then there he is in a suit. So there, there you go. You never thought you’d see it, but there he is. Jason CF Media wearing a suit. I think that just means he sold out. He probably got a sponsor or something. Um, also, uh, lawn, uh, chair, uh, uh, leader boarding, Lawnchair leader boarding, uh, the app and website that’s run by, um, Tyler Watkins, uh, will have some ways for you and your friends to bet legally just cookies, not money on this event. You can partake in the event, get a bunch of friends together, go to Lawnchair leader boarding, um, and, uh, and, and you guys can play a game around the event. Make it more interesting. Have more on the line. There you go. Barbell. That’s the barbell spin guy, right? On the, on the launch. Share leader boarding.

Brian Friend (16:46):

Yeah. Remember that he was promoting that, uh, L S K D I think giveaway for the person who was able to win during, uh, Dubai. I think they did this.

Sevan Matossian (16:55):

Oh, he was working with them. How come no one’s working with me. He’s

Brian Friend (16:58):

Just been supporting, uh, Tyler’s initiative on the app and trying to drive his audience over there.

Sevan Matossian (17:04):

Are, are they working with that brand? L S K D?

Brian Friend (17:07):

Uh, I mean they obviously had some collaboration for this, um, which is cool. And I, I think we talked about it before. You know, he’s a guy in the media. Tyler’s got this app thing that’s going on. They’ve been working together in a lot of different regards. They were able to bring in a sponsor all in the, you know, interest of supporting the event.

Sevan Matossian (17:25):

I would like to get a sponsor. More sponsors. I wish, I wish Betty and CrossFit was a thing. I would make it, it would make it even more fun to watch. Um, I just looked for for an app. No, no, that I just made that part up to make it sound like they were big time. There’s actually no app. You have to go to the website. Don’t ruin my story,

Brian Friend (17:43):

Please. There is an app.

Sevan Matossian (17:46):

Oh, there is an app? Yeah. Oh, okay. Well fine. There you go.

Brian Friend (17:50):

Where is it?

Sevan Matossian (17:53):

Elise? Call Rado. Please stop calling it an app before you give Corey a heart attack. There is an app, but there is an app. Brian just said it. Uh, what sponsors do you want for the show? One’s with Money,

Brian Friend (18:08):

PC on the prowl. He’s gonna find you somewhere

Sevan Matossian (18:10):

Online Gambling. 3%. 3%. Patrick? 3%. Always 3%. Okay. Um, Fabian’s feet. No, we won’t start there. Uh, Brian, what’s the, what’s the, what’s the deal? Um, you, you released this article. I was actually surprised at the article. Not that you, uh, yes, I get 3%. Um, yeah, Coca-Cola. Totally. Let’s do it. Coke and a Smile. Um, there is an article that you wrote in, I didn’t give you a link, sorry, Caleb. There’s an article that you wrote in, um, bar Bend. Okay. Your new home, uh, where you talk about the, uh, winners of Dubai and Rogue. By the way, you also, you also say that those were, uh, did you compare those to the CrossFit games thinking that you, I think you may have said they were as exciting as the CrossFit games. I thought that was really going out on a limb for you. You’re not a man of hyperbole.

Brian Friend (19:14):

I don’t know exactly the sentence or whatever you’re talking about, but in terms of the closeness of the competition in the men’s side of things, we’ve had, uh, as exciting a year as ever, really between the CrossFit Games, rogue and, and Dubai. The margins have been very small and there’s been several people involved in those races, right to the very end.

Sevan Matossian (19:34):

Uh, if you, if you go to Google and you type in Bar Bend and then Brian Friend, that’s, that’s the only way you have to use Google. If you just go straight to Bar Bend, you’ll never find Brian. You’ll think he’s lying about working there.

Brian Friend (19:47):

Basically, if you find my author’s page, then you find any, everything I’ve written there.

Sevan Matossian (19:53):

And in the article, you do more than elude to the fact that the, um, that the races were so close and that, um, that maybe the, the correct winners were not chosen. And specifically what’s interesting what you, what you speak about at Dubai is that the use of the stopwatches, I guess as opposed to chips and that there were some races that were I think three-tenths or three one hundredths of a second, um, different. And that could have been in the time that it took to push, uh, the stopwatch. Does that bother you or is it like, hey, it’s a balance, it’s a balance field because it, because it’s, um, at least it’s consistent throughout the event.

Brian Friend (20:33):

I mean, yes to both. I suppose it’s just when you, when you see the podium, the distribution of cash on the podium, it’s 50 K, 30 k, 20 k, I think that’s a hundred thousand that’s available for three people. And when you look at the final points, it’s 6 25, 6 25, 6 20. So immediately I wanna, I, I have to just ask certain questions like, damn, that’s an incredibly coast competition, which like we said, very exciting right up to the last thing. Um, a lot of people think that fk, he’s one step might’ve cost him, you know, $30,000. In this case, I don’t think he would’ve won anyway based on the math. I think that he would’ve tied Moritz and Mots would’ve had him on the tie breaker. So it actually, that step cost Moritz $20,000 and only cost Brent $10,000. But that’s just one little thing out of the course of the weekend that can make a difference there.


So the first thing is, is that really the best scoring system that we should be using? Because five points per place across everything for the whole weekend. When it comes down to it 6 25, 6 25, 6 20, it’s like, damn, I’m, and I know that in some of that, if you just add up their places, that it ends up being very similar. But if you look at some of the discrepancies in terms of how well someone did on something compared to someone else, the margins are really small in some cases and really big in another. But the points gap is similar. So this is where, you know, this is what Tyler’s been saying for years, is the type of thing that a different scoring system can account for. Obviously it’s still get, probably gonna be a close race, but you may have a better approximation of fitness, assuming that fitness was tested fairly. And e you know, in the same manner for the athletes and all the events,

Sevan Matossian (22:17):

The close scores are what we wanna see as the viewer, right? We wanna go into the final event and, and, and either watch Makowski win it or watch ’em lose it by just, you know, seconds. That’s where the tension is. That’s where the excitement is. And, and not only that,

Brian Friend (22:31):

Contrary is the women’s field. Karen Fre had a 90 point lead. Two women had already withdrawn from the competition. She’s getting 10 points either way. She’s already won three workouts, she’s unbeatable. All she has to do is the work is, I don’t even know if there’s a minute on worker requirement. She may have not even had to do the final to win. That’s not that exciting.

Sevan Matossian (22:47):

And and it’s an easy scoring system to follow Yep. As the viewer. But what you’re suggesting is if that there was a, a fairness component that could have been, if there were three levels, what makes it exciting, what makes it easy to follow? And then the third one being, what’s the most fair to pick the fittest person you’re suggesting maybe another scoring system and no stopwatches and are you suggesting the um, z-score

Brian Friend (23:11):

As an option? I mean if you look, look at the, the leaderboard for rogue same scoring system, 7 35, 7 27 15, 7 0 5, 6 90, then there was a 70 point gap. So that’s the top five guys. Madera, Smith, Adler, vena, Koff, all within 45 points of each other. 45 points over the course of how, what do they do? Eight or nine squared events that maybe 10 squared events is like nine total places between five guys over 10 events. It’s really small margins for air without a lot of, like, you can only earn five points per space. So you, you know, you, it just limits the way that you can attest fitness in terms of the reward of the points. So I think it’s worth exploring. Um, I’m not saying it’s bad. This is a bad scoring system and as long as the scoring system is known, it’s fine. But you know, sometimes we’re left with situations like this us I should pause there for

Sevan Matossian (24:05):

Now. Let, let me ask you this. Do you think Rogue picked the fittest man and fittest woman? Do you think, let, lemme rephrase that. Do, do you think that the, the winner was accurately chosen? Do you think the winner of Rogue for the Men was Justin Maderas and for the women it was was Laura Hova?

Brian Friend (24:31):


Sevan Matossian (24:31):

Proud of you. Oh damn. I was gonna say Annie for a second.

Brian Friend (24:35):

I do think those were the fittest there

Sevan Matossian (24:38):

And and do you think that they they should have won?

Brian Friend (24:42):

Probably, but you know when I like some of the examples I gave in the article for just mades in particular, you know, the big question was that rep on the last lunge of the first lunge, the first section of lunging, the last step that he took on the turtle workout, he ends up taking 12th on that workout. I believe it was his worst event by four spots. Oh no, he had 16th on Texas Oak 12th place, second worst event of the weekend. And his time was 2 58 0.81. There was a lot of tight times in there. Um, so he, you know, if he doesn’t have to go back, do that extra step and, and come, there’s a chance that that workout plays out differently for him in his favor. He is not gonna get less much. Was it a bad call? I’m not saying it was a bad call.


I’m saying it was a questionable call that was made that cost him some points relative to the field. In the case of, uh, did he, should he have won the competition? I think that the thing that bothers me the most was that was the way that the Texas Oak event was administered for the men in particular, you know, they were briefed that they would have a certain setup and not all the athletes got the certain setup that they were briefed they would have. And because of the way that the rules were written, which is a way that I do not like for competition, which is all you have to do is lift the log off the mat within the 45 seconds and then you can continue the whole lift however long that takes. You have to have, if you’re gonna have that rule, you have to account for the fact that it’s gonna throw off the timing.


And so there’s a better way than having the mc be responsible for keeping track of the timing in his head as the crowd’s going crazy and people are lifting big weights and there’s four lifters at a time and the logs are rolling all over the place and some people have to stop now, but others can go then and it’s 10 supposed to be 15 seconds. But we, we, if they lift then we ha it’s so confusing. So that’s why I like Dubai’s format where you have 20 seconds to finish your lift and it’s done. And if you’re, you can’t pick it up at 19 and then stand there for 10 seconds, maybe doing it, maybe not. It throws off the pattern for everyone else. But if you wanna do it that way, then record 3, 2, 1, lift, 3, 2, 1, rest. So you can stop and start it when you want to. Not when the Mc thinks he should, but the judge is saying no and there’s a miscommunication and suddenly Jeff Aler only gets 30 seconds instead of 45 seconds.

Sevan Matossian (27:02):

That really did happen. That

Brian Friend (27:04):

Really happened. The log was all the way at the front of his pads flipped up upside down. They were told the log would be replaced in the middle of their pads with the handles facing up because of that workout. And the, I think obviously a cool workout, but the de the the design of it was poor because you didn’t foresee the potential for massive ties. And even if you could say no, no they did, they had a tiebreaker, well the tiebreaker had nothing to do with the what was being tested in the cup and it was too sm Now those were margins of error that were ridiculously small. So would Adler have lifted the log? I don’t know. What I do know is if he had lifted that log that he didn’t have the appropriate amount of time for, based on the written rules, that he would’ve been the champion of rogue invitation of this year. And that’s a lot of money on the line.

Sevan Matossian (27:47):


Brian Friend (27:48):

Well he’s, you know, he is still got thirds, so he won something. So we maybe, but yeah, at least a hundred thousand difference.

Sevan Matossian (27:55):

And, and, and there’s more going on the fact that if you have 30 seconds, you get 10 seconds less and, and that whether you, you made or didn’t make this, but it adds to anxiety and for, for all, for all we know it may have rushed them. Sure. There’s a lot of different pieces

Brian Friend (28:08):

Event, it’s something new. We know that these athletes are good at picking up on new things. Yes, some of them have done the log before. Yes, they announced it ahead of time, but how many athletes between the men and the women picked up the log at some point, missed a lift and then recomposed themselves and picked up the log very close to their end of their interval and hit it the second time A lot.

Sevan Matossian (28:29):

What do you think the tiebreaker should have been?

Brian Friend (28:33):


Sevan Matossian (28:36):

A lighter log, a lighter log shoulder overhead max reps in 10 seconds or something.

Brian Friend (28:42):

Um, I think that

Sevan Matossian (28:43):

You think it should have involved the log?

Brian Friend (28:47):

Yeah, probably. Or maybe they should have had smaller jumps or they should have said something or you, or just say something like this. If five people go out on the two 70 log, they’re gonna be ranked based on who lifted it first within the time interval. If you did any 10 seconds scale up to 25 and I did 55, then your first Caleb second and third, like

Sevan Matossian (29:04):

I like that. I like that. Hey, that’s, that’s

Brian Friend (29:08):

Not Jerry can race once across the field.

Sevan Matossian (29:10):

Yeah, that’s actually really cool. I just watched, uh, Gordon Ryan and um, Nicki Rod go at it yesterday, uh, a jiujitsu and after it was, it was one 20 minute round and it was a tie. And then basically the tiebreaker is, uh, is, is is based on how long it takes you to either submit someone in short two minute rounds or to get out of uh, like what a rear naked choke it was Cool. I like that time piece. And then, and then, and then if they both lifted it at 19 seconds, then then it actually would be a tie, right?

Brian Friend (29:48):

Yeah. And that’s okay. Two or two people to tie is fine what you, what they wanted to avoid and what they did avoid with the jerry cam break, tie break is seven people tying at the same lift. But you should probably try to des design. I mean, I would think that.

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