#707 – Morning Chalk Up… Whaaaat Happppened? Live Call In Show

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Maybe I’ll start the show today. Standing bam. We’re live this mic. If I’m not close to this mic, you can’t hear me good, huh? Right. Soon as I back away it,

Caleb Beaver (00:09):

Yeah. I don’t

Sevan Matossian (00:10):

Think the one, my, the one at home in my studio is not like that.

Caleb Beaver (00:16):


Sevan Matossian (00:17):

I think I kind of, I think I kind of like it

Mattew Souza (00:20):

That you’re that close.

Caleb Beaver (00:23):

Okay. <laugh>. I like this. Good

Mattew Souza (00:28):

Morning, Jessica. Vindicate. Corey, Bruce. Good morning. Sorry, I just started jamming in with you. Dude, I just

Caleb Beaver (00:34):


Sevan Matossian (00:39):

What’s up? Good

Caleb Beaver (00:41):


Sevan Matossian (00:43):

Hey. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning.

Mattew Souza (00:46):

The circle part

Sevan Matossian (00:47):

Five. Good morning. If, if I, if I told you, if you guys, if I tell you that Avi and Ari and Joseph are my sons, what I’m telling you is that I put my penis inside of a girl, <laugh>, and I ejaculated in her. And that semen mixed with her eggs, and then she gave birth to those kids. That’s what it means, that those are my sons. It’s a signifier. That word is a signifier. Um, for that, if I told you Caleb was my brother, you would assume that the same man, by definition, if, if that word has a definition, you would assume that the same man and woman had intercourse, uh, uh, p penis, vaginal intercourse, and that him and I were both birthed from that woman. Th th those are what words do.


And then if later on you found out that Caleb wasn’t my brother, that actually, um, he was a, he was maybe adopted, or that maybe, um, he has a different father or a different mother, you would know that I lied to you and you would spin a story that made it so that you could accept that lie. But for some reason, some lies bother you and other lies don’t. And so when you take the stand that you don’t like people who are lying, and yet you have wiggle room, and what it means when someone lies to you and when it doesn’t, you have, you have wiggle room for it. The truth is, is that you don’t care if someone lies to you or not based you, you shouldn’t be upset at them. It’s something inside of yourself.


For some reason. Some lies bother you and some lies don’t. Because if some other story you’re telling yourself, and that story comes from, from a false sense of yourself, of who you think you are, of who you think of, what you deserve, of who you think I is, I, when you use the word I, I’ll give you another example. If suza were to tell you a story today about how his car broke down, it wouldn’t bother you too much. On a one to 10, you might feel a little bad for Suza. It might be a, a one or a two. But if it was your car, all of a sudden it would go up to an eight or a nine. Because for some reason that word matters. That matters cuz it’s happening to you. And so when you think you’re mad at the liver king because he lied, you are lying to yourself. You are a liar. I know that you’re not using words correctly and you’re lying to yourself. And so now you are the liar because the truth is, you’ve told yourself that story for some reason. You are so important. You’ve decided when it’s okay that people lie to you and who they don’t lie to you. And so then you spin another story. Oh, but it’s because he was selling stuff. And you keep, you keep spinning stories around that so that you don’t have to look at yourself.

Mattew Souza (04:29):

<laugh>, you’re gonna pick that comment. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (04:38):

For some reason it matters. You spin the story When, when I decided when, when you want the world to be funny, you spin stories that are funny. The truth is that when I walked into that bathroom the other day and I saw that guy sitting on the stall with his legs wide open in Newport Beach, the truth, you wanna know the truth? I was ecstatic.

Mattew Souza (05:06):


Sevan Matossian (05:08):

I was fucking tickled. I got a little, got a little excited. Yeah. I was, I was, I was ex because it’s a story for my podcast

Caleb Beaver (05:15):


Sevan Matossian (05:15):

Where I get to pretend like I give a shit.

Caleb Beaver (05:18):


Sevan Matossian (05:23):

We’re not on, we’re not on lk. We’re we’re, we’re, we’re trying. We’re trying to, we’re trying to get to the truth. I’m gonna show you a clip later on today where Candace Owens calls something evil. And it, it’s just words like that. They’re just lazy words. You don’t wanna get to the truth. It’s when you want, you are trying to convince, you’re trying to get on a team to spin a reality that’s not true. That other people on. So it holds more merit. We all do it all the time. Just spinning stories to try to hold down our identity. No, it wasn’t hard, but I was, uh, <laugh>. I was like, oh, this is gonna be some good shit. This will gimme 10 minutes of chatter on my, uh, podcast. Oh wait, that’s the thing. Ri we, we never had to be over it cuz we were never on it. See that? Like, whatever. Right? It just is like, it’s just, just stories. Good morning, Corey.

Mattew Souza (06:28):

That’s what I did when you were, when you dropped off.

Sevan Matossian (06:31):

Look how wide that stance is. Corey has, there’s those people that do that. You know that mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Look how wide that is. I don’t, um, I don’t, I don’t squat that wide.

Mattew Souza (06:45):

Oh. It’s different for

Sevan Matossian (06:46):

Everybody. Sometimes I wonder if that’s why my back is, is uh, my, I think my back might prefer that a wider squat.

Mattew Souza (06:54):

You have a, you have a great squat though.

Sevan Matossian (06:56):

Thank you.

Mattew Souza (06:57):


Sevan Matossian (06:57):

Seen it at my, um, at my very first L one. I remember Nicole Carroll coming over to me and, and going, holy cow. And then she went over and grabbed Greg. It was when Greg did all the lectures. She’s like, look at his squat. I didn’t chub up, but I, but I felt good. Like, you know what I mean? Like

Mattew Souza (07:15):

Yeah. The same thing happened at mile one, but it was the reverse.

Sevan Matossian (07:19):

Oh really? <laugh>, who cares? You put a hundred pounds more over your head than I did. I wish I had a shittier squat and I could put over 300 pounds over my head.

Mattew Souza (07:28):

And it was funny cuz I thought like I moved really well. Just cuz I was like the fastest one at the gym at the time. Yeah. And I had like, just started the journey, my journey of like CrossFit from the evolution from like the backyard into an actual affiliate. Yeah. And I was like, save my tax return when got mail one, I was like, I’m gonna be the star when I walk in. They’re gonna be like, look at this talent <laugh>. And then I get there and it was trash <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (07:48):

Just kidding.

Mattew Souza (07:49):

And I was in the center every time for every movement. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (07:52):

What year was that? When did you do your oh one,

Mattew Souza (07:54):

Uh, 2013. I had Jason Kapa, Neil Maddox, pat Barber, and Miranda as my staff. Talk about an awesome group.

Sevan Matossian (08:08):

Jason was funny when he taught the L one s

Mattew Souza (08:11):

Oh, he was awesome. And that was when they still allowed, uh, Fran.

Sevan Matossian (08:14):

Yeah. That was gonna be one of my questions. Yeah.

Mattew Souza (08:16):

And the beer social. I don’t know if they do the beer social

Sevan Matossian (08:19):

Anymore. Wow. Wow. I do remember the beer. Sp uh, social. Yep.


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Mattew Souza (09:17):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Sevan Matossian (09:19):

So they’re just doing some quality control.

Mattew Souza (09:23):

Qc. There you go.

Sevan Matossian (09:24):

QC on it.

Mattew Souza (09:25):

They still have the beer social at the L one.

Sevan Matossian (09:27):

Oh, they do. Awesome. Yeah. Sev, are you ever gonna send me that mouse pad with, uh, many? Uh, probably not. And

Mattew Souza (09:35):

That was actually my fault because last time I was at your house I was like, oh, I’m taking all these so I could mail ’em to the right people and then I forgot ’em on the couch. But when I, when you get back from Newport, I’ll come over and I’ll grab ’em and I’ll mail ’em out to everybody. Okay. Alright. Along with Hunter’s Gimbal. I gotta mail that out today. Sorry. Sorry, Hillary.

Sevan Matossian (09:52):

So Hunter was telling the truth. It’s an old shoebox now. Yeah. Maybe Hunter. When Hunter got it, he didn’t get the shoebox. Maybe that’s how he knows. <laugh>. Uhoh Uhoh. Oh no, I saw Ryan Fisher yesterday.

Mattew Souza (10:09):

Oh, you did? Yeah. Did you go like, hang out with him or was it accidental?

Sevan Matossian (10:12):

Uh, no. I, it was, it was on purpose. I had called him to, uh, one of our mutual, uh, friends needed some gym equipment and I had called him and I knew he was in the area. And he has, um, that gym out here called Chalk Sexy Gym. Very sexy gym. Yeah. It’s a cool, nice. Jim. Um, where’s Lauren? Khalil, I don’t know. In bed. I don’t know. Not my bed, but I mean, someone’s bed. Her bed

Mattew Souza (10:35):

Hustling. Queen of Hustle.

Sevan Matossian (10:37):

Yeah. She’s probably making a video. Uh, and, uh, it was cool. I really enjoyed hanging out with him. We hung out for about an hour, hour and a half. And then he said he has an indoor trampoline at his house. And he said it’s, it’s really remarkable. It’s worth seeing. He said I could bring my kids over to jump on it. So I might try, I might try to do that today. Oh,

Mattew Souza (10:56):

That’s awesome. Didn’t

Sevan Matossian (10:57):

He? Not that, not that kind of chalk. C H A L K. Is that what were you gonna say, Suza?

Mattew Souza (11:03):

No, I was gonna ask if he he, is he close by? Does he live?

Sevan Matossian (11:06):

Dude, he rode his bike over to, I met him at that at Dory’s.

Mattew Souza (11:09):

Ah, Dory. Ah, Dory.

Sevan Matossian (11:12):


Mattew Souza (11:13):

I told you about that time I went to Dory’s wearing the c o shirt when I was just, when he was just Hillard and I out there. Yeah. And I got, I got up early and walked and walked down there. And then the guy was like, oh, where’s our buddy <laugh> referring to you? Like recognizing me from the shirt and then realized that I was with you last time we were there.

Sevan Matossian (11:29):

I’m start, I I feel almost like a regular there. Like, there’s guys who sit at the bar in the morning who say hi to me.

Mattew Souza (11:35):

They get going early down there at that bar sometimes <laugh>. He’s down on a Tuesday.

Sevan Matossian (11:39):

<laugh> a guy named Mark. Um, I’ve chatted with him a bit and we always fist bump. It’s kind of nice. I like community.

Mattew Souza (11:44):

Cool. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (11:47):

Uh, the, the, the thumbnail I made, um, that had like Dave Castro reach in his hand to like, help Justin Laf Franco out of the toilet or, or depending on how you look at it, setting him gently into the toilet

Caleb Beaver (12:01):

<laugh>. Um,

Sevan Matossian (12:03):

And oh, I’m waiting to see what’s up with the headline so I can continue hustling.

Mattew Souza (12:07):

How did I know she was listening? It’s a great, uh, photo of her.

Sevan Matossian (12:11):

That’s what I thought.

Mattew Souza (12:12):

That would be like LinkedIn status. If it was just tilted the right way.

Sevan Matossian (12:17):

And then it shows, uh, and then the picture continues to show, um, oh, by the way, someone’s, I, I’m assuming it’s Will Branstetter. I’m spending all this time on Canva, <laugh> making thumbnails and, and that I think are fucking amazing. And then I go back and look and my thumbnails are down. And Will, will is very particular <laugh>. He’s very particular

Caleb Beaver (12:39):

<laugh>. I tried to do the same thing.

Sevan Matossian (12:41):

That’s, that’s the problem when you have an all Oh really? You make them and will just, just stomps on him.

Caleb Beaver (12:47):

Yep. Every

Sevan Matossian (12:48):

Time. The kid, the youngest guy in the group. The most opinionated. That’s the problem. When you don’t pay anyone, you can’t, like, I can’t be like, will why’d you take my shit down? Oh, there it is. So here you have what’s going on at the morning, chalk up. And I went over and like, I went on Google and I, I pulled the morning Chalk up logo. And then that was a show Lauren did with Patrick, Tommy, and Brian. And I thought that was funny. And I just put access through them because they’re gone. And then I put the crown over Lauren’s head because sh to me she’s the, the king and the queen over there. All all of it. She’s the entire fucking monarchy. Yep. At the morning chalk up. And uh, and then I just found a picture of, uh, Justin Lefranco shaking ha He was sitting down and shaking hands with Dave. And I just thought it would be funny to put that in the toilet bowl. I, you know what? I almost didn’t do that cause I thought it was mean, but then I was like, you know what? I had, I had a, an advisor tell me, Andrew Hiller <laugh>, tell me, just go with it. Just go with your first idea. Don’t be afraid. Don’t be a pussy. I was like,

Caleb Beaver (13:50):


Sevan Matossian (13:52):

Andrew’s. Like, don’t overthink it. Just make it, um, here’s, here’s, here’s what I’m tripping on. And, and I, and I have not, I I, I actually, um, was thinking about calling Lauren to ask her what, uh, and Brian yesterday, what they think is going on, because I’m sure that they know. But I, I see that. Um, and, and those, I think those are the only two people I, I guess I could have called Patrick Clark. I don’t think I know anyone else who works there. I’m not a fan of the, um, guy who’s taken over over there. Um, I think he’s, I think he’s woke. And for those of you who don’t know what that means, just go back and watch the last a hundred shows. We’ve done <laugh>. Uh,

Caleb Beaver (14:40):

Good definition there.

Sevan Matossian (14:42):

I’m tripping cuz Justin’s vanished from the scene. First of all. First, first, uh, Brian first, I think Tommy left. I think that’s, I think the proper order is Tommy Marquez left. And I, and I thought he was like, really? I thought he was the guy over there. Like the most senior guy. Like basically he was their kind of their Tucker Carlson, right? They’re Don Lemon. Yeah, let’s use Don Lemon <laugh>. Don Lemon. He was their Don Lemon. Okay. <laugh>. He was their token Mexican. And uh, then he, then he left. And, uh, and probably not, not even probably, I think it’s fair to say that he was the most forward facing person that they had. Meaning everyone knows who he is in the community. I mean, uh, he probably is one of the most senior guys or one of the guys who’s worked on the CrossFit games more than, than anything, than anyone.


Um, he has the Talking Elite Fitness, uh, show. I dunno if I would call it a podcast, but it’s definitely a show podcast. Like, you know, one stop shop for things, CrossFit, a lot of game stuff. He’s with Sean Woodland, who I think it’s more than Fair to say is the voice, CrossFit. And he left. And I I I don’t ever remember getting a reason why he left, but he left. Right. And there’s this saying in the business that people don’t leave jobs. They leave people. Very true. And it’s, it’s, it’s, yeah, I think it’s pretty fair. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it’s, it’s at least at the 51% line of truth and maybe 99, 90 9%. Um, and I don’t think Tommy got pregnant and left. Um, although the, although the woke, although the woke crowd is capable of anything <laugh>, they, the, these things, they transcend all the, they’re like, uh, sorcerers, they can do whatever they want.


So Tommy leaves or is fired or something happens. And I don’t, I don’t know. I don’t know what happened. I heard that his podcast was purchased by another company called Hamilton Road. For those of you who don’t know who Hamilton Road, what Hamilton Road is. Hamilton Road is the production company that is contracted to do a lot of events. I believe they just did the Legends event. It’s owned by a gentleman named Charlie Duby, who I used to work with. I could do a whole sh I sh I wonder if Charlie would come on this show. No relation to the Duby brothers. No, but I, I truly, one of the nicest human beings I’ve ever met. Like really, really, uh, always. I, they’re not one I can’t try, I can’t think of one negative interaction I ever had with Charlie or even okay. Interaction. They were all like positive.


He’s the kind of person you talk to and you walk away and you feel better. He’s a cool dude. He’s a good people. And I, he may have even started at CrossFit Inc. As an intern and then ended up just being a powerhouse. I mean, the guy is eminently capable, reliable, everyone likes him. I’ve never heard anyone say anything bad about him. Ever, ever, ever, ever. Everyone loves him. And so, um, uh, I heard that ta uh, I, I actually heard that, I don’t know if this is true, but I heard that talking Elite Fitness was actually purchased and folded up into that company. So it maybe it went something like, maybe listen, maybe Ding Dongs, maybe. Maybe it went something like, Hey, I’m gonna hire Tommy and Sean, bring them on as employees. And in that deal, I now own talking Elite Fitness, something like that.


Lauren is always up then, then, um, the rising star and, and, and arguably one of the biggest needle movers that comes on this podcast, um, when he comes on the, those game shows do fantastic. Uh, Brian Friend came on, uh, or Brian friend left the Morning Chalkup and he had been going, he, he, he was, he was pulling off something kind of remarkable because he could go anywhere, right? He was the reporter. He, I mean, he, he was, which was cool. He could go anywhere. He could come on my show. He could come on the Morning Chalkup, he could come on talking League Fitness. He could go on, um, Chase’s show and Bill Grundler show, get with the programming. And, um, and if, and, and I, and I know Brian and I, I don’t think I’m revealing too much when I say this, but he consciously wanted to, um, maintain a status where he was in good graces with everyone because he put his desire to speak about the games and speak about CrossFit ahead of everything. Right? So he, if you ever asked Brian, Hey, what’s going on over here? He’d be like, Hey dude, I’m purposely trying not to know. Like, if it was some sort of drama mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like, I would be like, Hey, I heard, uh, so-and-so I, I heard Lauren Khalil’s pregnant over at the morning. Chalkup. He’d be like, I’m purposely trying not to know <laugh>. I just made that up. Sh I’d never heard that she was pregnant. Also

Mattew Souza (19:41):

A rumor.

Sevan Matossian (19:41):

<laugh>. Yeah. Also a rumor. An example an i e or ei.

Mattew Souza (19:45):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Example, example

Sevan Matossian (19:47):

Maybe. And so Brian leaves and, um, in, in the space of us, us being, uh, get with the programming, talking to Elite Fitness, the Chevon podcast, the morning chalk up, um, Barb Ben barbell spin, um, a anyone, uh, Brian was, uh, it would be an understatement to say he was a superstar, a and eminently capable. You could just have him on and just, just roll with him. So he leaves, which is really weird. Why would you let that guy go? Let, let me, let me back up. Let me ba let me back up a little bit. There was one other thing that, the interesting thing that happened in there, I think it was probably after Tommy left and I had started courting, uh, Lauren Khalil to come on to the Sev podcast. I was trying to figure out, I had her on this show pretending like I wanted her as a guest, but really I just wanted to meet her and see if, uh, how we get along. And it was awesome. It was, it was like, it was like, uh, with being with Andrew Hiller, I basically just tried to haze her a little bit, see how she hang, and it was like nothing, you know what I mean? It was just like, oh shit, this, this, this chick’s cool.

Mattew Souza (21:04):

She’s awesome

Sevan Matossian (21:06):

And lucky

Mattew Souza (21:06):

To spend time with her. She’s great.

Sevan Matossian (21:08):

And I even remember, I got the team together, there’s like six of us. Um, and I said, Hey, uh, what do you guys think about if, if I tried to get Lauren to start making con, not take her from the morning, caught chalk up, not by no means, but just have her make content, uh, for us somehow figure out a way where it would be beneficial to her to make content on the SevOne podcast. That was what was going through my mind. And the team said, Hey, we’re not sure if she’s the right fit. And then we decided that’s why she is the right fit after we talked it out. Because she is so different than us that it’s basically like, it’s like, um, Sue’s beanie just doesn’t work, but, but it adds texture to

Mattew Souza (21:49):

The, I was try to,

Sevan Matossian (21:50):

But it adds texture to the show, but it adds texture to the show.

Mattew Souza (21:54):


Sevan Matossian (21:57):

No, I, I’m out of the No, I, I’m, I’m out of the recording phase. I’m just in a holding pattern with Lauren. I’m watching from afar. I’ve gone up to like, I’m like a Turkey vulture now. I’m just circling now just circling. We’re

Mattew Souza (22:07):

Just hopes <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (22:09):

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m just, she’ll cross the bone. She’s, she’s, she’s one of many I’m hoping will fall dead in the field so I can eat <laugh>. Like, I’m just, I’m just a Turkey vulger circling over the field. Now, back at the 30,000 foot view, Lauren’s just another, uh, squirrel in the field running around. I’m wondering if, uh, she’s gonna go down so I can get the cada.

Mattew Souza (22:27):

Hey, she was different. The one thing she did have in common was the discipline and hard work aspect of it. No one can deny that. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (22:34):

Oh, thank you, Allison. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Uh, I love that. Be well, dude, I’m, I don’t know if I’ve ever seen her husband without a beanie, just so you know.

Mattew Souza (22:42):

Oh, so it’s a biased opinion. You’re

Sevan Matossian (22:43):

Say, extremely biased.

Mattew Souza (22:44):

Okay. I’ll take it either way.

Sevan Matossian (22:45):

Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and, and obviously that was, that was the thing with Lauren. Uh, I never saw her seem, I mean, her, her in front of the camera work was amazing. And I never see her, um, just seem flawless. And, and I know she’s interviewed some people who are really hard to interview. And I watched a bunch of her stuff, shitloads of her stuff, and I basically plagiarized off of her and I, and I, and then, and then her cadence was insane. I was like, and that’s really what I look for. I’m just looking for people who have insane cadence. I, all I want is just work ethic. I just want people who wanna be here and grind. I was like, oh, this chick obviously just wants to create CrossFit shit. Yeah. Sures fucking ain’t doing it for the money.

Mattew Souza (23:25):

Super passionate about it.

Sevan Matossian (23:27):

Yeah. And I was hoping this is getting in too much into the details, but that if she came over here, I could lure her into doing other stuff too, outside of CrossFit so she could interview anyone. You know what I mean? Just obviously she’s eminently capable. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Okay. So that didn’t, that didn’t work. And I, I almost felt that after that courtship process, if, if she was to 10 already, that she went to a 12, like something happened over there, I don’t know the details, but all of a sudden her cadence even picked up more and she became even more dedicated. And, and maybe I could be wrong. Maybe it’s just because I was watching so closely, but all of a sudden she was in more places than ever. And so some, I I feel like something happened over there where she was even given more, more resources.


Maybe more resources. I was gonna say like more authority, but I, once again, I’m making that up too. I don’t know. I don’t know. I didn’t like, I didn’t do a, uh, I didn’t write down how many videos she made before I talked to her and after I’m just, just, just off of her, uh, um, my own bias perception. Okay, so where were we? So, so to Tommy, Tommy gets absorbed into Hamilton Road to Charlie Dubs amazing company. That’s the company that does all the games broadcast. They did the legends event that I think this week. They’re the ones with all the fancy cameras. Beautiful. You know, 4K shots, all the cool shit, right? Uh, uh, they got Sean Woodland and, and just, everyone just killing it. I’m doing a podcast. Hold on. Hey, I’m, I’m doing a podcast now. What’s up you hot piece of trash?


I’m doing a podcast. All right. Well, I’m in Newport. Oh, okay. I’ll call you right when I’m done. Bye. Hunter McIntyre making a guest appearance. <laugh>, is he in Newport? It’s not. He said he was, he’s not Tom Cruise, but I’ll take it. Um, so then, uh, so, so then Hunter McIntyre started working for the morning Chalkup. No, no, that’s not what happened. Where was I? Okay, so Tommy’s gone courting Lauren failed courtship, <laugh>. It wasn’t failed. It wasn’t, we can’t call it. Well, we, we got a friendship out of it. Yeah, we got, we got a friendship out of it. Yeah. Uh, then, um, her and I are besties then, then, uh, Brian friend, this, uh, you just gonna say it. He’s, he’s, he’s the most prized p p piece on. He’s the, he’s the queen on the chess board. There’s lots of good pieces. The don’t, it sucks that other, everyone else has to be tossed into the fucking, when you compare things, you know, like when, when, when, when you let, um, when you compare things, obviously some things rise to the top and it, it mean, it implies that some things are worse.


But I guess that’s just the way it is. We’re big boys and girls here. He was the queen on the chess board. He was, he was a great, he’s a great asset to any show, any, anything in the CrossFit space, by the way. Which on another term, you should wonder anyone who’s not courting Brian, you have to know it’s for ego reasons. You have to fucking know that he’s cheap, he’s easy and he’s available and he’s the best. And so if you’re not using Brian, it’s for ego reasons come a hundred percent. It’s fucking asinine. Insane. And he is a talent. He’s quirky as a motherfucker. I’ll tell you that. He is quirky. But all the talent, all the good talent is, if he’s quirky, then I’m quirky too. They’re all, they’re all, um, quirky and or you could get talent that’s stuck in equity and just, um, like, uh, Caleb, they have just no choice. They’re stuck. <laugh>, <laugh>,

Caleb Beaver (27:20):

That’s all you get.

Sevan Matossian (27:22):

<laugh>. Okay, so, so Brian leaves and goes to this, um, this, this rag called Bar Bend. That’s actually quite huge this, right? Um, very, very big Oh, nice shirt and Barend is, if you go to their account, you can see they’re huge. And you might be like, how come I’ve never heard of them? And it’s because they just haven’t done, I guess they, that’s not their thing. CrossFit, their primary thing is like body building and power lifting and, and other stuff in the fitness space or in the strength space. And so obviously they, someone over there was fucking smart and grabbed Brian. So now you have their most forward facing guy. Tommy gone. You have Lauren doubling down on shit and then you have Brian friend leave and go to what obviously is gonna be a competitor. Bar Bend is not obviously not gonna fuck around. And their goal is just to put everyone else, um, not out of business, but make everyone else irrelevant. When you grab Brian, that’s basically what you’re trying to do.


And probably Bar Bend doesn’t have this pseudo my opinion, insincere responsibility to the community. They can just pick the big stories. They don’t have to be like, oh my God, look over here at CrossFit, LA la la. A 65 year old Sally got her first pull up the way Morning Chocolate does. Like they kind, I feel like that they kind of think that they have to do that stuff. CrossFit, la la la. Then, uh, so that basically left, um, uh, Patrick Clark over there as the next big name. And Patrick wasn’t a big name over there, but clearly rising more and more and more. And by big name, ironically, you get, if you wanna have a big name at Morning Chalkup, in my opinion, you have to go on Lauren’s podcast. It’s like, if you wanna be, uh, a, a a a reporter that gets a lot of attention, field reporter, you have to go on Don Lemon Show or you have to go on Tucker Carlson’s show.


If you wanna be a big, if you wanna be a big. And so if you want to start getting out there and build and, and become a person in the CrossFit space via Morning Chaka, you gotta go through Lauren Khalil’s show. And I think she has a couple shows. The, the only one that stands out to me is the one called Bottom Line, but I think she has a bunch of different shows. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But that one’s branded as like the bottom line. So this guy Patrick Clark, who is already coming up, coming up on more and more and more shows, he, I dunno how long he’d been over there. He may have been over there for all I know, 10 fucking years. But all of a sudden he starts becoming more forward facing and.

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