#706 – Alex Landot, Building Climbing Phenom

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

I’m frustrated at, at what? Bam. We’re live. I wanna read, normally I don’t read people’s texts with the, I I, I dunno if I should even start with this, but, so I’m, I don’t, I don’t like to do, I used to listen to Howard Stern and I thought he was, I thought he was great. I, I, I basically just stopped, I stopped watching him cuz he went woke. He just started playing the victim role and I didn’t want to be a part of that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which sucks because I just, I thought he, I, I really enjoyed the show. But when he started spreading lies about the forest injections, he was already a germaphobe. Do you know about that? Yeah. Like crazy germaphobe. Yeah. And I’m not a germaphobe, like I don’t use as gaskets. I walk around everywhere barefoot. I like to shower a lot just cuz I like the experience and I like clean underwear.

Mattew Souza (01:06):


Sevan Matossian (01:07):

A good feeling. Yeah. And I, and I, and I changed my kids’ clothes a lot too because of that. So let’s say, let’s say I just take them out like for like a two mile walk, right? Let’s say we would go for a walk. By the way, you have to walk your kids. Hey

Mattew Souza (01:24):


Sevan Matossian (01:25):

Like having dogs. You have to walk them. And Good morning Sarah. Good morning. Newport Beach, <laugh>. Caleb. What’s up dude? Morning Caleb. Oh, Sarah, I got my same complaint about Newport Beach. We’ll get to that in a second. That I had last time. I thought. I think Sarah knows the mayor. I think maybe she even directly told him my complaint. <laugh>. But we’ll get to that, we’ll get to that in a second. Okay. Good morning, Michelle. Shanks. Magnus. Good to, good to see you brother. Corey, Kenneth, chase Bryant.


So, but, but whenever, whenever Stern would go on other shows I couldn’t stand him. Like if he went on like Jay Leno or whenever he would be interviewed by other people. Cuz he seemed so fake to me when he was interviewed by other people. And like, the reason why I liked him is cuz I felt like he on his show, he was so vulnerable and so real. And so I noticed when I go on podcast, I started having that same, um, uh, critique. Oh, wait till you see what I saw yesterday, Sarah. Wait till you see what I saw yesterday. Crazy. These are the nicest beaches in the world. People, I probably shouldn’t share this with anyone, but, but I’m staying in this insane place that, um, that, uh, California hormones has. It sits right on the biggest beach and every morning there’s the most, most beautiful waves.


Um, for beginner surfers. It’s nuts. And the people here, the, there’s no gum on the ground here. Everything’s clean. It is so awesome. Um, there’s little shops and bars and it’s especially cool now cause it’s winter and there’s no tourists here. It’s so crazy. It’s so nice. All the people are nice. Lots of lots of, um, like just chill old men here too, which I kind of like. Just, you know, by old, I mean like my age to 80, you know what I mean? Like on roller blades and like on those weird, like instead of riding bikes, they ride like recumbent and those Olympic bikes, you know, shit like that. Just a cool, that little grumpy towards my kids, but just cool. And even the homeless people here are chill. Yesterday I sat next to it, like I, I don’t even know if they’re homeless, but, uh, the lower class.


Yesterday I sat next to a guy cuz I heard him talking about how his family was from, uh, it was like a six foot, six black guy, skinny shit, maybe, probably 150 pounds. And I heard him telling another guy about how he was from South Carolina. So I just sat down next to him and started listening. Just like hearing people’s stories, just eavesdrop. It was a cool story. Anyway, so there’s, there’s this one podcast that I do. People ask me to come on their podcast. And there’s one podcast that I do, it’s with a gentleman named Eddie. If he’s a, uh, comedian Ben on Rogan, uh, CrossFitter. Cool dude. I like him lives in Malibu. Um, and, and I I I, I think maybe he wouldn’t describe himself like this, but he has a, he, he, I think he’s like a lefty, but I like him a lot.


I I like a lot of lefties a lot. And, um, he, he invited me to come on the show and, and I didn’t wanna do it. Not because I just feel fake on, on other people’s podcasts. Fakes not the right word, but I feel like I have to perform. Like they’re inviting me on there and I should keep the energy super high. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like, kind of like I’m doing right now with this show. It’s got the energy through the roof. Crazy, crazy energy. <laugh> and, oh man. So, so here you go. We’re texting now, so not today. Oh. So, so, so, oh no. My my and and, and then the other thing is, is I’m like a real baby about my time. I’m crazy selfish with my time. I have no problem. Just like, I, I have no problem saying no to people. It, it happened to me in my late forties. Like none. Zero. Yeah. Gary, Roberts level energy now. I know. I’m sorry. I know it’s annoying. I’m just out, out of jumping over skin. Well, this yes or no motherfucker, yes or no, motherfucker <laugh>. So,

Mattew Souza (06:04):

And in your defense, usually there’s

Sevan Matossian (06:06):

So much stuff scheduled, no show today then Jesus, I dunno what the age is, but Jesus h Christ

Mattew Souza (06:15):


Sevan Matossian (06:16):

Peace and love. Okay.

Mattew Souza (06:21):

All right.

Sevan Matossian (06:23):

So I, so I agree to do this text on December 13th because I think it’s good practice for me. And he is a really good host. Eddie is a really good host. Like, if I don’t carry the show he’ll, he, he he’ll run with that shit. By the way, Alexis is coming on at, uh, a Alexis, uh, land o’s coming on at 7:00 AM

Mattew Souza (06:40):


Sevan Matossian (06:45):

And so, so I agree to do the show this morning. And then he sends me a text and he says, oh, cool. He’s doing Eddie’s doing a live show. That’s cool. He has a stand. He’s a standup comedian, a busy one. And probably his podcasts been around forever. Maybe the oldest CrossFit podcast, podcast, podcast. Anyway, so, so he says, um, I, he sends me this, uh, last Thursday I double booked you on December 13th at 9:00 AM That’s today, right?

Mattew Souza (07:23):


Sevan Matossian (07:25):

And I said, he said, can you do 1:00 PM I said, I can’t. And he, he, he wrote like something nasty to me. But, but that’s funny, right? He called me some names, I don’t wanna say what cuz maybe he’s not comfortable with people knowing what he called me. And then I go, fair. But I assume I, I still assume at that point that then, then he’s keeping me for that spot and he’s getting rid of the other dude. Not cuz I’m better not cuz I deserve it, but because he didn’t tell me otherwise.

Mattew Souza (07:55):


Sevan Matossian (07:58):

So then if, if you get booked on this show, we bug you up to the point that you come on <laugh>. Like, we keep reminding you

Mattew Souza (08:05):

<laugh>, nothing’s left a chance. <laugh>. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (08:11):

Oh, Melissa, Melissa od are saying thank you, uh, Sarah. Amanda has been so nice. Uh, Amanda’s a lady. If, if you sign up for California hormones, use the code seon, you’ll, you’ll eventually end up speaking to a woman Amanda, who will help you schedule, you know, your doctor’s consultation and your blood work and stuff like that. If you live in California. And she’ll, and she’ll walk you through. She can, she’s just like the, the, the docent or the ombudsman for California Hormones. Uh, great lady, pretty lady too. Great. And pretty,

Mattew Souza (08:40):

Yeah. Met her for like a quick second

Sevan Matossian (08:41):

Last of my day. She kind of looks like, um, she kind of reminds me. This is, uh, about like, like Tanya Roberts. Do you remember Tanya Roberts? She was like the Charlie’s Angels that came on late in the eighties.

Mattew Souza (08:53):

I don’t think so.

Sevan Matossian (08:55):

She was hot.

Mattew Souza (08:59):


Sevan Matossian (09:00):

Betson is that cuz I’m acting like a grumpy, oh, uh, uh, pick a younger picture of you.

Mattew Souza (09:05):

<laugh>. That’s the first one that popped up when I saw to it.

Sevan Matossian (09:07):

Like, like she had too much work on it looks like she’s had too much work on her face. And like picture. Pick that one with her boobs out. Let’s say, let’s say Amanda looks like her in the black dress in the middle there. Yeah. That’s kind of how I imagine Amanda to look. Okay, where was I? Fuck this stories all over. I don’t want to hear shit about my ADHD or anything. I’m just flowing. Shut your pie hole. You don’t say that to rappers.

Mattew Souza (09:32):


Sevan Matossian (09:34):

California Home runs awesome experience. Awesome. Corey, I’ll send you a check tomorrow. <laugh>. Um, so, so, so then he says, so I assume I’m going on. And then, and then he doesn’t all day yesterday. I don’t hear from him. So if you’re coming on our show, the day before you come on the show, Susan will start bugging you to remind you, cause we’re a professional outfit with a multimillion dollar budget.

Mattew Souza (09:59):

Well, that’s what we act like.

Sevan Matossian (10:02):

Everyone fucking has fucking five jobs who works here. And we get that done. So then last night at nine 12, I said, are we doing this tomorrow at 9:00 AM No response, 5:30 AM I text him again today. I go today question mark. I still don’t know <laugh>. And I got shit I gotta do. I gotta, I pushed off a meeting with California hormones I have this morning to do this fucking podcast with this dude.

Mattew Souza (10:24):

And arranged the schedule. Got up earlier too.

Sevan Matossian (10:30):

Yes, correct. So then he says to me, finally at 5 31, he, he, or no, no, at, at six 30, an hour later at 6:30 AM this morning, nine minutes ago, he texts me and he says, I have shows at 7 9 11 and nine 30. I still don’t know, am I that 9:00 AM show

Mattew Souza (10:50):

<laugh>? Who the fuck?

Sevan Matossian (10:54):

Uh, I said, so not today. He said it would be tough. I wrote yes or no, motherfucker

Mattew Souza (11:02):

<laugh> still incredibly vague. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (11:06):

So then finally he just writes back, I’m in the South Bay this weekend doing standup comedy, which is cool. I’m NBC that

Mattew Souza (11:11):

God, I wish. Well, big Wolf.

Sevan Matossian (11:14):

Say that again, Caleb.

Mattew Souza (11:16):

I said, big whoop <laugh>. Yeah, yeah. Do a show with me or don’t <laugh>. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (11:21):

Anyway, uh, sorry, I might as well plug it. Um, Eddie, if has been on Joe Rogan n nbc, uh, last comic standing Showtime, um, 97.3. Alice, I guess that’s a big LA radio station. And he is performing, um, uh, tonight? No, no, uh, December 15th through 18th at, um, I think at a place called Roosters in the South Bay. Oh, in Sunnyvale. Oh, that’s cool. All right. He’s French. You think he’s French? Eddie’s French.

Mattew Souza (11:52):

That explains it.

Sevan Matossian (11:54):

So thi this, this place I’m staying at is on the beach. And if you want, if I go outside and walk to the right, I just walk down this row of, you know, uh, 4 million to 20 million homes as far as the, I can see you’ve never seen so many awesome places sitting on the sand. If I walk to the left, there’s an ice cream shop and then it just turns into a row of coffee shops and bars and places you can buy surfboards and skateboards and shit like that. And, and, and that’s like a, a block of that. And then there’s like a pier with a, like a cool little circle where people like hang out and sip their lattes and shit. And then after that there’s another row of houses as far as your, I can see, it feels like it goes to the Mexican border of four to million to 20 million homes that just keep going. And along this beach peppered throughout about every half a mile there’s a bathroom. And it’s a nice building. It’s this awesome concrete building. Looks like it could handle a hurricane. And there’s men’s and women’s bathrooms with the cool entrances from both sides. And and last time I was here, I went in there and there’s no doors on the stalls. And I get it. That’s some sort of thing so that homeless people don’t turn those stalls into their homes, I guess.

Mattew Souza (13:12):

Or like do drugs in there.

Sevan Matossian (13:14):

Oh yes. And, and yesterday it was, it was pouring rain but still warm, you know, 68 degrees pouring. And me and my kids are the only ones out on the, uh, on the walk. We’re just walking. God, my kids have been re there, there’s this, uh, there’s this, what’s crazy is even right on the beach, there’s this one spot where there’s um, all this like workout equipment, like pull up bars. There’s a shitload of grass that no one uses. I don’t even know if it’s grass. It’s this really short stuff. It’s green. It kind of looks like grass, crab grass. I think it is it crab crab, gas grass? I don’t know. They keep it. And you could do all sorts of crazy shit on it. You can like, anyway, like boys have been wrestling like crazy. There we go there and we just do just rounds of fighting.


So awesome <laugh> and, um, they call it the fight lawn. And then they have, and then, and then, and then also on the beach, they have this area that’s um, uh, asphalted, that’s huge. Which has like guys playing, uh, on roller blades. People on one wheels, the shitloads of basketball games going on. It’s so cool. And, and nothing ghetto about it. All the parking spots there are like filled with like either these fancy electric carts that everyone drives around here, or G wagons, you know, in rovers. God, they love their rovers here in, uh, in Newport. Anyway, so we go into the bathroom with my son. My son says he has to go to the bathroom. It’s pouring rain. We’re having a blast. Super lighthearted. We’ve just accept the fact that we got caught in a shitload of rain. We’re just walking, we’re playing, we’re fooling around. Everyone’s drenched and we walk into the bathroom cuz he has to take a piss with my two, two of my sons. And right in front of us is a stall that’s opened and there’s a fucking guy sitting there. I, I don’t know what ethnicity he was. He was some like, just mix of shit. Looked more Asian than anything. Probably a hundred pounds overweight with his legs wide open with this cock balls. He had like this little tiny cock, like this big pointed right at us. And he’s taking his shit, just looking at me.

Mattew Souza (15:19):

<laugh>. Did he make eye contact?

Sevan Matossian (15:20):

Yeah, I stared at him.

Mattew Souza (15:22):

<laugh>. It’s like Caleb and his buddies taking community

Sevan Matossian (15:25):

Shits. First of all, there’s five other stalls he could have gone to that weren’t like the one pointing at the door when I walk in.

Caleb Beaver (15:34):

Yeah, you’d probably just wanna choose the one farthest away from the door.

Sevan Matossian (15:38):

Uh, Trish, I, yeah. I never closed the stall door. I I know, I know you don’t Trish, uh, <laugh> I know. Call you Trish. Epstein go ahead. What were you gonna say, Caleb? You take the one farthest. Yeah. Hey, Caleb’s an expert of no stalls. Tell us what’s the protocol buddy?

Caleb Beaver (15:53):

What’s the protocol? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, usually you keep at least a stall between everybody you know, and you give yourself a little bit of space and like if there’s one that’s you don’t pick the one that’s closest to the door. Cuz then if it opens and they’re like,

Sevan Matossian (16:05):

You start from the one farthest from the door actually. Yeah,

Caleb Beaver (16:07):

Yeah. Back to front. You

Sevan Matossian (16:08):

Feel handicap the handicap one just like

Caleb Beaver (16:10):

Yeah, she’s just like sitting in a bus. Yes. And then you just go fill in back to front every other. And then if you really need to, you fill in the one in the middle. Like if you’re really gonna take the shit in there, you don’t wanna run to the next fucking toilet. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (16:23):

The only reason why you don’t choose a stall, there’s no toilet paper.

Caleb Beaver (16:28):

Yeah. Right, right, right. Yeah. That’s,

Sevan Matossian (16:30):

And then you transfer

Caleb Beaver (16:31):

And, and if it’s easy, maybe you could even just grab a roll and take it to

Sevan Matossian (16:34):

The stall. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Yes. Like when they got the message,

Caleb Beaver (16:37):

Give each other their privacy man.

Sevan Matossian (16:40):

And I just sit there and stare at him. I mean, I stared at him for like three seconds.

Caleb Beaver (16:45):

That’s uncomfortable.

Sevan Matossian (16:47):

<laugh>. Yeah, I just stared at him.

Mattew Souza (16:48):

You let it linger.

Sevan Matossian (16:51):

I even had the thought if he, if he says anything or stands up and my boys were there, I would just kick him in the chest and like sit ’em back down.

Caleb Beaver (16:58):


Mattew Souza (17:01):

They got weird. Like we just got squirrely. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (17:03):

I just thought, okay, if this guy, I just thought that if this guy stands out and could kick him

Mattew Souza (17:06):

In the chest, kick to

Sevan Matossian (17:07):

The chest. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Yeah.

Mattew Souza (17:10):

Get a little distance. Sit ’em back down.

Sevan Matossian (17:14):

I’m okay with pinching a loaf in front of people too. It doesn’t mean I just fucking like it. It, it’s not a pastime of mine. I don’t shut the door at my own house. I turn the fan on. Fucking a and this place is so nice and they can’t get stalls on the door.

Mattew Souza (17:33):

I’m surprised they don’t do like a really, like short stall, you know, to where you could still very clearly see what kind of, what’s happening underneath it. But you could still cover majority of what’s happening too.

Caleb Beaver (17:43):

Have you ever been, oh, you guys aren’t tall enough for this? Um, <laugh> Have you ever been to a, a bathroom that like the walls are like neck level or like chest level?

Sevan Matossian (17:54):

Yeah, I, I, I can’t see over, but I’m aware of people like you when you come in. Okay. Yeah, I’m aware of that.

Caleb Beaver (18:00):

<laugh>. Yeah. You like, you could just be sitting on the throne and you just look up and like Ming is watching you take a shit kind of thing. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (18:06):

Yeah. There the guy next to you, he’s pulling up his pants and now you see him,

Caleb Beaver (18:09):

Right? Yeah. Yeah. That, that shit’s fucked. I’m like, no, I’ll just, I’ll hold it. <laugh> <laugh> because in my head’s broken out of the top of the, the walls too, you know, if I stand up straight,

Sevan Matossian (18:21):

This guy’s coming on the show today. He’s been on the show before. His name is Alexis Lando. We’ve had him on the show before. I started having this feeling this morning that it’s really cool what he does. He’s a beautiful young man, crazy physique, uh, very well spoken out of France, France,

Mattew Souza (18:39):


Sevan Matossian (18:40):

France. And, but I was thinking, man, maybe we shouldn’t be giving dudes like this attention for their behavior.

Mattew Souza (18:47):


Sevan Matossian (18:48):

Because it’s just so scary what he’s doing. No ropes, climbing skyscrapers.

Mattew Souza (18:55):

Uh, it’s so unique to me and crazy that it, it’s like something you’re drawn to. And maybe that’s just me because I could look at that and like it in, it evokes fear. Like my palms will start to get sweaty and shit. You know? It was nuts too. So the building that, um, go ahead. What did you

Sevan Matossian (19:11):

Say? No, no, you go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead.

Mattew Souza (19:13):

So there’s a, there’s a really big building in Barcelona and uh, I was like, oh, I think I’ve seen one of those. Cuz there’s a couple of guys that do this and there’s an older guy, I think he’s also French and I think he calls himself like the Spider-man, but he was one of the original guys that was free.

Sevan Matossian (19:26):

Yeah. He’s taken pictures with this guy.

Mattew Souza (19:28):

Yeah. And so, um, we went on this open bus tour and we went by the building and I was like, that looks like one of the buildings that these guys would like climb because you could see how you could climb it, you know what I mean? Like, it didn’t look too difficult the way that it was positioned. And the next day I saw on Instagram that he and him and his son climbed it and I was so pissed that I missed it cuz we must have missed them by like hours of him climbing that building in Barcelona. And I would’ve loved to seen that in real life

Sevan Matossian (19:56):

Nuts. Oh, Sarah, remind me to tell you about, um, Travis this morning. I spoke to him last night. He got offered to go to, uh, Istanbul to arm wrestle. And, and I gotta tell you something about that. I gotta tell you a story. So, so my, my boys, my boys, um, so, so I stared at the guy and my boys were just flank beside me and we just walked out and we just peed right there on the beach. Then I go, just pee right there,

Mattew Souza (20:27):


Sevan Matossian (20:29):

They’re like, really? Why aren’t we going the bathroom? I’m like, why’re not going in there.

Caleb Beaver (20:33):

<laugh>. That’s always so difficult to explain that to kids too. They’re like, why are we not doing that? There’s a creepy man.

Mattew Souza (20:41):

Stranger danger.

Caleb Beaver (20:43):

Stranger danger. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (20:44):

Um, speaking of shit, you don’t explain your kids. I, I I want to show you this. Uh, it’s 300.5. We’re gonna, we’re gonna play this like three times in a row here for you. This is, if you don’t know if you’re, if you’re having trouble getting your head around what indoctrination is, what it looks like to indoctrinate kids, and that’s kind of a new idea to you. This is what it looks like to indoctrinate kids. This is how you spread, uh, racism. And this is so, so, you know, yesterday we talked about, um, reparations and we all know what that is. That’s to keep the black folk on the plantation. It’s exactly what it is. It’s to buy their votes and keep them on the plantation. And, uh, oh, no, sorry, not that one. Sorry, sorry. Uh, um, 300. We’ll do 301st and then we’ll go to, uh, Elon’s, uh, tweet you indoctrination is when you tell the ki kids what to think instead of how to think. That’s, that’s called indoctrination. What to think instead of how to think. And a lot of people do it. I’ve been guilty of it, but it, it is a huge, huge mistake most of the time. There may be some important places to tell them how to think. Like when they’re little, you explain to ’em the dangers of dogs.


Like, hey, like, like you see these dumb people. You’re at a dog park and there’s 300 dogs walking around and some fucking dumb parent has their kid in there who’s three years old whose head’s lower than most of the dogs and the kid’s eating a hamburger. Like someone needs to indoctrinate those parents into fucking how dogs work. Three dogs come over there at the same time and they tear your kid apart to fight over the hamburger. You fucking dumb fucks. Uh, uh, the, the, the, um, letting your kids, uh, put bringing toys to the park and putting down the slides so that the toys fly off and hit the kid in the face 10 outta 10 times. I see that shit. But, but, but let’s look at this. This is just mind boggling that someone thought that this was okay to teach their kid. And, and I know the Jews and blacks are so guilty of this as a whole. I know I’m, I’m speaking a bit in, uh, sweeping generalizations and, and, but I, but I don’t think it’s hyperbole. But look at this shit right here. I, this is just bad shit. Crazy

Speaker 5 (23:12):

People are not treated fairly as white people. It’s not fair. Are we white people? Yes. Real black people are not treated fairly as white people. It’s not fair. Are we white people? Yes. Real black people are not treated fairly as white people. It’s not fair. Are we white people? Yes.

Sevan Matossian (23:37):

Real. Okay. You you see how cle how clear cut that is. One kid is saying black people aren’t as treated as fairly as white people and it’s not fair. The kid next to him is asking, are we white? And the kid goes, yeah. And he goes, phew. That’s how the sickness spreads. So what do you think that kid thinks about black people now? People with colored skin? Why, why weren’t it? What if your kid asks about the color of people’s skin? You, you, you, you pull up fucking a a a biology website and you sh and you show them the biology of different color skins and what it means and, and and, and what the belief is on it relative to their biology. Not, not, not some made up shit that you think is real. Those are the same people who let their kids choose their gender.


Why are you even, why are you even making something imaginary? You don’t ask your why is something imaginary real? You don’t ask your kid, you don’t explain to your kid that Bigfoot has fur and not hair and how and how it’s known because they’ve never found shedding of the, of the, uh, or the Bigfoot has hair and not fur. And how do we know that? Well cuz we’ve never seen the fur from Bigfoot stuck on trees and hair doesn’t shed You don’t, I mean, what are you doing? Leave your kids alone. That that’s fucking abuse. Yeah. What kind of parent even films that Yeah, they’re, they’re, they’re basically ver great question Travis. Why? What kind of parent even films that shit so they can post it on social media. Um, they, they’re, they are, um, virtue signaling using their kids <laugh>. You got your, you got your kid to think of skin color. What what they did is they taught their kid that skin color is a social status. You have to always go deeper instead of some sort of biological piece.

Mattew Souza (25:36):

I, I have the feeling that you just don’t even talk about skin color or treated it as any different to anything. And you just treat each individual as they are and judge them by the character, not their skin color. And you don’t even bring it up to your kids.

Sevan Matossian (25:46):

Yeah. I don’t remember that as a kid. Kids will ask, kids will ask.

Mattew Souza (25:50):

They yeah, they might ask and it’s, it’s important just to say, everybody look at our, you could put your skin up next to your boys and it’s gonna be slightly different. Your Hailey’s is slightly different.

Sevan Matossian (26:00):

I have done that. Ivon, look at me. Look how much darker I am than you fucking use.

Mattew Souza (26:03):

So yeah. So <laugh>, so then you just say like, there’s different variations of it. Uh, it it’s weird how much stuff that people go, oh, we have to stop this. And it’s like, you could just stop it. You created it to

Sevan Matossian (26:15):

Stop it. Yeah. You, you created it.

Mattew Souza (26:17):

You’re, you’re keeping so much life into it. You’re breathing. So it’s like, it’s a, it could be a little flame somewhere and you’re just doing this. Yeah. It all starts just billowing and then raging and then you’re like, why are people hating each other

Sevan Matossian (26:28):

Under the guise of thinking you’re doing something? Well,

Mattew Souza (26:31):

It’s always that,

Sevan Matossian (26:32):

But you’re indoctrinating your kids. Corey. Hi.

Speaker 6 (26:35):

What’s up? Can you remember, um, your first experience with racism growing up as

Sevan Matossian (26:42):

A child? Yes.

Speaker 6 (26:44):

What was it?

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

My, my my best friend in the seventh grade. So I used to have to write my mom. My, both my parents were workaholics. And I and my mom sent me to the good school, which was like, I don’t know, let’s say five miles from the house because the cool school next to me had all the bad white kids in it. It because I lived in this neighborhood that was all just like, it was basically the hell’s Angels fucking capital of fucking, um, uh, of the Bay Area. It was a little town called Pacheco, right outside of Martinez, the county seat and big, big, big motorcycle gang problem. All, all the, you know, gnarly fucking white dudes with all the crazy tattoos. My neighbors would be out front fighting with chainsaws. I shit you not. Um, one of my other neighbors got busted for being a, a huge cocaine dealer.


Um, and so my mom sent me to the other, to the school like five miles away and I would have to fuck, my mom would drive me there in the morning with my bike on the back of her car if I was lucky. And then I would ride my bike home. And so all my friends there lived really far away from me. And my best friend was this kid named James Lee. And I fucking loved him. So it was actually sixth, sixth grade, he’s my best friend. And seventh grade he’s my best friend. And he kept inviting me to stay the night at his house. And I couldn’t because I knew that if I would have to ride my bike there and I just didn’t want to do that on the weekend. So finally one day he comes to school and he says to me, Hey, my, my parents think that you might not wanna spend the night because you’re racist. So I had to go home and fucking ask my mom what that meant.


And my friend James was black. So then I was like, fuck. And so he thought he didn’t wanna spend the, the, the, the night at his house because of the color of skin. So then I ended up saying, okay, I’ll spend, I’ll spend the night at your house cuz I just wanted to, I’m a people people pleaser and, and I had the time of my life of course. And I started spending the night at his house at least a couple nights, uh, uh, uh, a month. And, uh, well ended up being cool. They they were, they were wealthy. Well they were wealthy compared to us. His dad was a airline pilot that used to be like a pretty prestigious job. And uh, James was like the smartest kid in our school. I fucking loved hanging out with him. He was so fucking smart. But basically we would just go into his room and sing, uh, rap songs from the second I got there till the second I left, like for two days straight. We, we were big into this, uh, rap group called U T F O at the time they saw their fam, their big song was Sally, that girl.

Speaker 6 (29:09):

Oh, oh yeah,

Sevan Matossian (29:11):

Sal. And then, uh,

Speaker 6 (29:13):

Sally, that girl. Yeah. Yeah, I

Sevan Matossian (29:14):

Remember that. And um, and uh, so, so that, that was my first, that was my first, but I didn’t even understand it. I thought it was just completely preposterous. I thought it was just fucking ba like I, I seriously thought like they were damaged goods in, in my head a little bit. Like wow. That I, I remember start to think like that. I remember thinking that already in the seventh grade.

Speaker 6 (29:37):

I, I don’t, I think what it was, I remember growing up, um, and the thing I wanted to be was white. Um, I’m, I’m Mexican and

Sevan Matossian (29:44):

Spanish. Oh, you did not want to be white.

Speaker 6 (29:47):

Yeah. Which is gonna bring me to my next question. My dad, his first language was Spanish, but we never spoke it in the house. And um, I think that’s why like, I was always jealous. I wanted to be different. And so.

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