#693 – Live Call In Show

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Maybe I need a, maybe I need a sweatshirt. Bam. We’re live. I’m a little cool.

Mattew Souza (00:05):


Sevan Matossian (00:06):

Yeah, I’m in that, I’m in that back kitchen.

Mattew Souza (00:11):

Yeah. That’s nice.

Sevan Matossian (00:15):

Hold on one second. I’ll leave you on with everybody.

Mattew Souza (00:19):

Oh, you’re gonna leave,

Sevan Matossian (00:20):

Leave? No, no. Just like, take my headset off.

Mattew Souza (00:22):

<laugh>. You know how that makes me feel? <laugh> sweatshirt up here. Is that a crew neck?

Sevan Matossian (00:37):

I had this, um, I had this ex-girlfriend who told me I should never comment on the internet. It was when the internet was like mostly message boards. And I think she was right,

Mattew Souza (00:55):


Sevan Matossian (00:56):

Cause yesterday I made more comments on the, on Instagram and YouTube than I think I’ve made in, I don’t know, my whole life combined.

Mattew Souza (01:09):

You just feel argumentative or something.

Sevan Matossian (01:11):

I, I did learn some shit. I just feel dirty every time I do it. It’s not, I’m so much nicer in person than I am on the internet. <laugh>. I mean, not that I’m not blunt in person. <laugh>.

Mattew Souza (01:24):

Yeah. But there’s a different nuance when you’re in person.

Sevan Matossian (01:28):

Yeah. It’s, uh, this guy wrote me a comment this morning. Very thoughtful comment. Four, four pages long, like on Instagram. So like, you know, it took me like minutes to read and, uh, Hey. Good morning, Phil, Philip. Good morning, Jessica. Good morning, Christine. Good morning, Brian. Good morning, Mr. Butter. Good morning. Fight for the fittest. Oh, Mr.

Mattew Souza (01:56):


Sevan Matossian (01:56):

This is just a, this is just a temporary room. I’m at the California hormones, uh, pleasure palace in Newport Beach. The, the place of ultimate r and r, rest and recreation. So this guy writes me, uh, it got a lot of self reflecting from you this morning. This guy writes me this thing and he says, Hey, I love your show, but I’m taking a break from it. I’m paraphrasing by the way. I asked him if I could read it, but he hasn’t had time to respond to me because I just, I just got it this morning. It’s basically just tearing into me. It basically says that I, he agrees with everything I say, but he can’t stand my presentation cuz I behave like a 14 year old boy. Fair, fair enough. Okay. Yeah, I, there’s no, I’m the first to say that, um, you know, I, I like Andrew Dice Clay and Rodney Dangerfield. And, um, I like your mom jokes and

Mattew Souza (02:49):


Sevan Matossian (02:50):

I come from this era. I don’t know if a, if a lot of people did it, but I come from this era where we would just sit around me and my guy friends and just rip on each other. You what I mean? It would, there’d be, it’d be 11 o’clock at night. Someone’s parents would be asleep. We’d be in their living room just ripping on each other. <laugh>. Uh, he also said that, um, he thought it was, uh oh. Oh. So, uh, you know, Spotify’s sends out all of those things right now where it says, these are the podcasts. So I’m getting tons of those where people are sending me their favorite podcast list. What do you listen to the most? And every single one of ’em has had Joe Rogan in their group. Oh really? Yeah. Which makes sense cuz he’s one of the biggest podcasts in the world. Right. It’s like, it’s, they send ’em to me cuz they listen to this one the most. So mine’s at the top. Good afternoon from the uk. You’re a bunch of legends on. Thank you for your unashamedly speaking the truth about events in the world, spending so much, sending so much love your way. Newts. Thanks Nutts. Cool eye makeup.


Um, that’s, that’s my favorite kind of makeup or maybe my only makeup that I kind of like. I like eye like, uh, eyeliner. Eyeliner. Yeah. It’s cool. You’ve a wear eyeliner? I haven’t, but I, but I, okay. If I wasn’t, so, I mean, I don’t even wash my hair. I wash my feet and my caulking balls, my ass and my underarms <laugh> the necessities. Yeah. Um, and I shower a lot. I probably shower two, three times a day. Change my, I’m obsessive about changing my underwear too, but I, I get distracted. Okay. Uh, so, um, I, yeah, so, so I, I, I, I own that then he, then he said it went on to say it’s lame that I, I talk shit about Jocko and, um, Joe Rogan’s relationship. When, when, when there was all that heat on Joe for a minute, one of the things that Jocko said was he came on to basically defend Joe and talk about what a great guy Joe is, but then talked about his concerns about Joe’s drinking and take taking of hallucinogenics. And I just basically said, Hey, uh, was friends like that who needs enemies? Like, please don’t ever defend me. And, and then also talk about my shortcoming. Yeah.

Mattew Souza (05:08):

Threw you the bus at the same

Sevan Matossian (05:10):

Time, <laugh>. And he said, you have no, I, you know nothing about Joe and Jocko’s relationship and that’s true. I don’t know anything about it. Zero. That’s not true. I know, I know. If I were to give it a percentage, I know 0.001% of their relationship. So I, I’d like to come clear on that is my assessment. That still being said, I don’t, um, even if I knew everything about it, I think it would get worse if I found that this guy was saying that they’re really close and that they can do that to each other. It’s not about being really close. If SU called me on the side and was like, and, and we have had some of these discussions, you know, about con we, we’ve, we’ve talked about the implications of other being on the show and the, and the way I behave and, and what the, what the fallout could be for those people.


I mean, he, he runs a business and we talk about things that are um, can be extremely intense for people. And, and I have the humor of a 14 year old boy. So <laugh>, that’s why I stick around. But, but, but either way, I, I could, I could sense this guy’s passion, right? He, he and, and he said, you he said some other stuff that like, didn’t, didn’t really affect me, but I understand speaking about for his, a lot of his arguments maybe were like 14 year old arguments. That is the one thing I don’t, I think I have the arguments of a 3000 year old wise man, but it comes out of the mouth of a 14 year old boy <laugh>. But when you, when your arguments are, you would never say that to Jocko’s face. That’s like the 14 year old boy argument. You, I, I, maybe you’re right, but I’m, but I’m saying it on the internet.


I i, is is that supposed to tell me that it’s not true what I’m saying? But either way, I I I, I really appreciated this guys dm then he said that, um, it was inappropriate the way I was, I was expressing my disappointment in Joe on his take on some subjects, and I haven’t been really clear about it. But the really one that I was really disappointed on is the one that, that his takes around the injection. I also do wanna be very clear that his apology, the way he apologized about that, that real that was put together, it is 100% true that when you say sorry for something that you are admitting what you did was wrong. And when you admit that you do was wrong, you’re, you’re supporting not implicitly, but explicitly that the other side was true. And it wasn’t true a hundred percent unequivocally, I dunno if that’s the right word. It was not true.


And if I apologized to someone, I’m also enforcing them to feel to, to, to, to, uh, basically he apologized for some racial slurs he used. He didn’t direct them at anyone. He was using them in a context that what, he wasn’t like screaming at someone you fucking spic. He was not saying that. And so that when you apologize for it, what you’re saying is, is that all Mexicans should be offended by that word. And so you’re demanding a group be offended. And as you guys know, I’m not a, I I can’t do that. I don’t see that as being healthy at all to demand that anyone be offended about anything other than hurting children. And I don’t even know if that’s right. But it’s where I stand unequivocally also, I ref I have zero tolerance for that. But the rest of the stuff, someone cuts you off. It’s okay to experience the offense, but you should watch that. That’s for you to see when you flip someone off, what you’re doing is, is you’re reacting. And when you apologize, standby. Oh, I didn’t have the number up call high

Speaker 4 (09:13):

Sweet. I wasn’t sure if you guys would have this, uh, during your, uh, hiatus in the palace there. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (09:20):

I love everything but my shallow depth, uh, camera. I’m pretty stoked.

Speaker 4 (09:23):

Well, hey, that new shot is fantastic by the way. I appreciate, bring a little, bring it a little tighter. That’s nice. So, excuse me, you, uh, when you’re talking about this, um, you know, you’ve got this kind one standard of don’t hurt kids.

Sevan Matossian (09:40):


Speaker 4 (09:42):

I’m curious like where that standard comes from for you,

Sevan Matossian (09:47):

Because I’m assuming it’s because I had kids. It’s kind of like, if, if all, if the world, if I was a 20 year, if I was a 22 year old Seon and I was watching what was happening to the world right now, I would be kind of excited because I, I basically just live, I was a barefoot guy who walked around with his dog. I had no possessions. If the world fell into complete anarchy and chaos, like what did I care?


Sure. And now I have, now I have kids and I want stability in the world and I want safety in the world to a, a much, much greater extent than I ever wanted. And I want, and I don’t want kids to be, um, indoctrinated. There’s a guy named, shit, he’s dead. He had a center in Ohio, uh oh, sorry. Ohio, California trying to, uh, christianna me that I studied at, at quiet length. And he was friends with everyone. Ha Helios bra, Bruce Lee, um, uh, um, who is the guy, uh, all the famous people you know, around, uh, in the, in the thirties and forties and fifties, everyone came to him. And he, and he, and one of the things that he preached is you don’t teach kids, um, what to learn. You just make sure that they don’t lose the ability of how to learn. And he had a center that did that. And I don’t, that I, the indoctrination thing just really resonates with me that you don’t wanna indoctrinate kids that,

Speaker 4 (11:15):

So I

Sevan Matossian (11:15):

Guess, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (11:17):

Well, so I love, I love where you’ve landed on so many of these positions, but the thing that is still lacking in, so your worldview to really combat all of this stuff is ultimately it still comes down to your personal feelings, right? Your personal belief on the thing. I ask what your standard.

Sevan Matossian (11:43):

Right. Right, right. I don’t think kids should be sexually indoctrinated or, uh, molested those. Yeah. Those are my feelings. Correct.

Speaker 4 (11:50):

Right, right. And so when, when the ultimate standard is just a person’s individual beliefs, individual feelings on something, we’re gonna get all kinds of crap going on all over the place.

Sevan Matossian (12:03):

Right. Okay. Can I take a, let me take a, oh, okay. I I’ll take a second shot at it, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (12:09):

Well, so ultimately my, my plea would be, so I’m, I’m a I’m a Christian. Ok. And one of the things that I feel like gets, uh, you’ve got a lot of cool conversations and for some odd reasons, uh, there’s tons of Christians in the CrossFit space in these high level positions and whatnot. But one thing that really goes, um, untouched with a lot of ’em is we appeal to a standard outside of ourselves. Right. We appeal to a standard that says, God created this world and he created it with a specific order. And when we step outside of that order, things don’t go well. Right. And so I have a belief, I share so many of the same beliefs as you, but I’m coming to them from a different position. I’m coming to them because I believe in a different standard that’s not just based on my feelings. Cause I believe my feelings are very fleet. Right,

Sevan Matossian (13:09):

Right, right. I’m with you. Yep, I’m with you. You’re, you’re making complete sense.

Speaker 4 (13:14):

So that’s, that’s, that’s one thing.

Sevan Matossian (13:16):

Isn’t it interesting that I came to these? Well, I shouldn’t, I was gonna say, isn’t it interesting I came to these by myself, but I really didn’t. That that’s a, that’s misleading. I I did, I listened to the, the complete Bible twice on audiobook. I’ve listened to all sorts of different scriptures from all different faiths, uh, on audiobook. Um, uh, how about I, how about I say this, it’s very clear to me from watching my own mind and how I grew up and, and, and how, um, how the, for lack of a better word, how it came to me that men and women are supposed to come in union with intercourse and bring the penis in the vagina together and have sex. I remem I remember, I remember having those feelings and not knowing what they were. And, and, and I, and I, and I appreciate that naiveness.


I remember wanting my kindergarten teacher to come home and tuck me in. And because of that, I think I grew my perspective on things as healthy. I didn’t have anyone explain to me about sex. For me, it like grew in increments, like small, in small increments. Even, even when I was 16, I had the same girlfriend all through sophomore, junior, senior year. And I know she was even wondering, like, she had told me we could have sex and we still didn’t have sex for like two and a half, three years. And it was because I was just going at my own, my own pace. I didn’t feel for whatever reason, any, any pressure. Like, like it didn’t, like I like if someone called me a virgin, like it didn’t, it just bounced off. Yeah, you’re right. Um, so, so, so, I, I think you can really, I don’t think I know you can, I, I stand firmly that if you sexualize someone at a young age, because it’s such a powerful energy feeling thought inside of us, um, you’ll screw them up. It’s like, it’s like, I’m gonna show you this video of, of a family letting their kid drink coke. A one year old baby drink coke. And what I think that does to the human brain is, um, is, is completely not understood, but insanely powerful and changes the trajectory of a child’s life for the rest of its life by introducing senses to them at that young of an age. Sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (15:28):

No, I totally agree. And so this is another interesting one. So with, with all of the health stuff, right? So I believe as the, as the, you know, the father of my family, I have four kids by the way. Oh.

Sevan Matossian (15:41):

Oh wow. Congratulations. You sound so young.

Speaker 4 (15:44):

Uh, yeah. I I did have ’em young <laugh>. So I believe that I am, you know, I’m, I’m leading them now and one of the responsibilities I have is over their health. Right. And over, you know, training them in the way that they should go to be able to, in the order that I believe God has given us. Right. And so I think it’s true that something like abundant amounts of sugar is not good for them. Right? So that’s something that’s true that I have a responsibility to teach them,

Sevan Matossian (16:19):

Especially at a young age. Right? So if you’re, if you’re, if you’re 25 and you got stone with some friends, and you guys eat three, three pallets of fucking brownies in college, I, I give you a, I give you a pass, 30 pass <laugh>. But, and, and if you’re 25 and you go through a year of watching porn, I give you a pass. But if you’re an 11 year old kid who’s been given an iPhone and you’re watching porn, and that’s your introduction to sex, or if you are, if your parents are feeding you sugar at the age of one, you, you failed, you failed those kids. You, you’ve Yeah, absolutely. Their brains were too, um, po at that time Yeah. And malleable to, uh, to handle that.

Speaker 4 (17:00):

Yeah. And so I guess the difference between how, how I believe that plays itself out is I have responsibility to teach them truth. Right? Right. Okay. Rather, rather than kind of just like leaving them open to, you know, freely discover things and maybe, maybe there you feel like there’s an extra element of protection from certain things. I wanna, I wanna go on the, I teach them what is true and build them up and them up so that when they are 18 or, or whatever it is, can go out and they can be, they can be, what we like to say is, is a dragon slayer, right? Because I want, I want them to be dangerous in a culture that, um, really is, uh, is quite a danger.

Sevan Matossian (17:47):

How, how about this, this is where I agree with you. I think it’s super important that kids form an identity. And I think there’s two ways they form an identity. They earn one. And, and, and that means, you know, you, you, um, you teach ’em the piano and by the time they’re 10, part of their identity is, I I’m, I am a human being who can play the piano. And you teach ’em that they’re Christians and they build that identity that I’m a Christian. I, I I, I agree with you on so many fronts like that. The thing is this, and this is, and I don’t see this talked about anywhere. And this is the, this is the hard part. At some point, if you’re lucky enough, you will learn the skill of watching thoughts if you’re lucky enough. And if you’re, and then if you’re extremely lucky, you will, something will happen to you that is so powerful.


And so, for lack of a better word, hurtful that you will have a chance to cross a path into enlightenment where you can give up yourself and see your entire self and realize that that entire identity that you built is not true. That it’s built, it’s a fallacy. And I, and I speak about it often saying I was given the name, the impossible task, and we were all given the impossible tasks to be given a name, you know, Matt Suza. And then from the second he’s born to the second he dies, he has to try to keep that thing together in some sort of sane container, even though it’s all fake.

Speaker 4 (19:29):

Yeah. So here’s, this is great. Here’s the beautiful thing about what I believe, okay? Is that, so, so ultimately you’re talking about kind of this, this, uh, it’s, it’s self-awareness, right? It’s, it’s, it’s truly understanding the reality of yourself, right? So I believe,

Sevan Matossian (19:44):

Or, or I dunno if I ever fully understand the reality of myself, but I under, I can see glimmers of the, of the, of the illusion.

Speaker 4 (19:51):

Yeah. So, so I think that’s true for you. And what I’m saying is I think, I think there is clarity, right? So I, I believe that that man is, is fallen, right? We, we are simple by nature. And so what you’re describing is that when we get this true glimpse of ourself, we realize that any effort that we have to try to clean ourselves up, to try to produce something, to try to prove something about ourselves, ultimately is in vain, right? It’s, it’s all this stuff just trying to keep up this appear. But the beautiful thing is the redemptive story of Christ, right? So I believe that somebody has, has bridged that gap. What, what I can’t do is, is accomplished in the person of Christ. And then on the backside of that, you

Sevan Matossian (20:43):

Can’t do what he did. Is that what you’re saying?

Speaker 4 (20:45):

Absolutely. Right. I cannot live, I cannot live the perfect life that he lived, but he did it for me. Right? That’s the gospel that I separated from God as perfect is, is person. And so in my broken and sinful state, I’m, I’m separated from that. And I, and I, I cannot attain that.

Sevan Matossian (21:12):

Why? I accept that though. Are you supposed to try, even though I know, you know, you can’t.

Speaker 4 (21:16):

So here’s, here’s, here’s the good news is that in his accomplished work, I’m united with him, right? He, I, I, I have debt to pay to God the creator. I’ve broken his law, but Jesus has fulfilled it. And on his back, he, he has wiped all debt. And so on the other side of that, now I have true liberty. I don’t have to perform for what has already been earned for me. So now you better believe, yeah, I’ve got work to do.

Sevan Matossian (21:48):

Right? Well, that’s the part. I don’t, that’s the part I don’t see you, you see that, right? The part I see is that I should be striving to do that also.

Speaker 4 (21:58):

Say that again.

Sevan Matossian (21:59):

That’s the part that I don’t accept. I don’t, I don’t accept that, um, uh, Jesus did it and that no one else can do it. I don’t, I don’t accept, I don’t accept the fact, I I can’t argue my, my own limitations like that. I can’t argue those limit. I think everyone should be trying to be that, that,

Speaker 4 (22:18):

That. Sure. Okay, great.

Sevan Matossian (22:19):

Which is, which is, which is, which is, this is a horrible word, but perfect.

Speaker 4 (22:24):

Yeah. No, no, no, totally agree. I totally agree. Because that is the standard, right, right. Back to where we started by, by what standard. Right. And so I’m saying you’ve already failed that standard,

Sevan Matossian (22:37):

Right? Right. But think, but, but that, but I don’t think you should quit. Even if you fail every single day, you should still quit. You should still pursue it.

Speaker 4 (22:45):

Absolutely. So the, the difference is I believe that ultimately I, I, with those, because those I have,

Sevan Matossian (22:52):

Because it makes the world a better place and because it makes me more happy, I’m happier when I walk in that code. I’m more fulfilled

Speaker 4 (23:02):

Be because it is good and true and beautiful by a specific standard.

Sevan Matossian (23:09):

Right? Right.

Speaker 4 (23:13):

So I love, I love listening to you. You’re real close. You’re real close. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (23:19):

Hey, maybe I’m, maybe I’m just, maybe he’s just wait, maybe he’s, I’m like a rake and I’m just trying to wake up and God’s using me like a rake just to rake up a bunch of leaves, get, get pulling some people that same time. He’ll, at some point at the last minute, he’ll wake me up completely and, and I get to go. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 (23:35):

<affirmative>. Yeah, man, you’re, you’re, you’re close. Okay. You’re real close.

Sevan Matossian (23:38):

Keep rooting for me, caller. Just

Mattew Souza (23:39):

Outta curiosity real quick. How old are you?

Speaker 4 (23:42):


Mattew Souza (23:43):

Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (23:46):

All right, brother. Thank you for the call. A thoughtful call. Yeah, man. Uh, so, um, he, this guy went on to say that he didn’t, I, that it wasn’t, some of the things I said about Joe wasn’t nice. He’s probably right. I, it was probably, I, I’m, I I’m very, uh, I’m very, um, wound up around kids getting forced injections. And the fact that I saw him so close so many times to stand up against it and, and that he was so close to the racism thing and, and, and just couldn’t cross the finish line on it. I, I, I probably have been, um, overly aggressive. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Mattew Souza (24:24):

I just could ask, what do you, like, does the person who, you’re the commenter, who is somebody who messaged you, right? Yeah. Do they have knowledge of Joe and Jocko’s relationship?

Sevan Matossian (24:34):

Well, more than me, because they pro they, they listened to those podcasts, is it was the, was the implication. They didn’t say that, but okay. And he went on to say that how basic, and then, and then he went on to this fallacy. I know this is trying to appeal to the emotional piece, but he says, who are you? Joe has 200 times the audience you do, which I think is more like 200,000 times the audience. I do <laugh>. And who are you? He stands up in front of crowds of 20,000 people. And he, and he was trying to contextualize, um, he was trying to contextualize Joe’s position, but kind of beating me with a stick at the same time. But, but I get it. I I sure I I I don’t, you’re I don’t, I definitely don’t have the pressures. Uh, he has, he doesn’t have the pressures I have.


Yep. So, so I get it. I, I thought it was fair. And then, and then the last thing was that he said is, and I’m paraphrasing again that it was below me ever even to get into it with Danny and, uh, the whole Spiegel thing and the wooly thing and, and the Nicki Brazier thing. The thing is this, and I, and I see it, it, it, so someone sent me a DM last night and they go, oh, are you gonna keep making fun of Matt Fraser for owning a StairMaster? Um, even though it probably paid off for anyone who had a StairMaster since there was that event at Dubai that was climbing 160 floors. And I wrote back to him, uh, I never made fun of Matt for having a StairMaster. I did quite the opposite. I embraced it and have been begging Dear Bill and Katie. Yeah,

Mattew Souza (26:06):

That’s what I was gonna say. So

Sevan Matossian (26:07):

Ever since, yeah. And, and, and the Danny thing kind of went the same way in the fact that, like I’ve said, a hundred thousand nice things about her.

Mattew Souza (26:16):

Yeah. But people are only gonna point at the one thing that kind of feels their argument.

Sevan Matossian (26:20):

I, I saw a video, and I’ll show it to you today, and it’s a guy in a garbage truck. He works on the back of a garbage truck and he’s Dr. And he drives by people’s houses. And for a living, this guy picks up your garbage and throws it in the back of a truck, and he’s driving by a house and there’s a very attractive girl in the garage doing overhead squats and basically her underwear and bra, like CrossFitters workout.

Mattew Souza (26:45):

I saw

Sevan Matossian (26:46):

This. And he stops and looks at her and, and he claps there. There’s some people who are gonna be like, who the fuck is that creep? And it’s, and it’s nuts to me. That guy drives by your house one day a week for the last 20 years picking up your garbage, and now you’re in your underwear in the garage doing overhead squats and, and, and he stopped and clapped at you. So he may be right on that front too. He that it may have been, uh, below me to that because of my platform. Um, even though I’m, I’m a, I’m a fly in the metrics compared to hers. I do realize that this, I have seen also the metrics on how you guys convert. And there’s no one in this space. You guys are extremely loyal to me. You’re extremely loud. Uh, you’re extremely, um, uh, as Patrick Vener called me Absolutist, like me <laugh>.


And so, so I get it. But those, but those were four, four points he brought up and he said, I think he said he has to take a break from the show, and then you use a line from an m and m song stand. I’m your biggest fan, or something like that. Anyway, I I, I just thought I would give that the time of day because it was, it was so thoughtful. Yeah. And I could tell that he likes Jocko and he, he, he likes, he likes the opinions that I express on this, in the facts that I express on this show. But he doesn’t like the crassness of it, and he thinks it was below me to even engage, uh, the beacon of Moral authority <laugh>. Um, my, my point on that too, that was kind of lost, as I’ve said. So ma like I I, I wouldn’t even call them nice things about her. I’ve made observations about her many around her physical skills and not just the fact that maybe she should put on a small instead of an extra small, but I don’t <laugh> I, you could, I don’t think I’m open to it, but I don’t see how that’s sexist at all. Like, I don’t see how her vagina versus a penis as any,


I don’t, I don’t get it. If someone were doing a clean and a shirt that was too big and it kept getting caught on their shirt and I would said, Hey, that shirt is too big. Anyway, uh,

Mattew Souza (29:07):

You know how many people have commented on my hair since it’s gotten longer?

Sevan Matossian (29:10):

I know. I keep wanting to comment on it. Ronald

Mattew Souza (29:13):

<laugh>, Ronald,

Sevan Matossian (29:14):

Ronald McDonald.

Mattew Souza (29:16):

Oh, I loved, oh, speaking of conversion, uh, at the top of the comments there, we saw right as we logged in, another one is taking their L one Heidi’s getting their L one this weekend. Oh, that’s awesome. I mean, how many of those have you gotten your DMI get ’em quite a bit, so I know you must get him at I get, I get him 10 times the magnitude. I

Sevan Matossian (29:35):

Do, yeah. I get him every day.

Mattew Souza (29:36):

Yeah. So just wanted to humble brag there for a moment, as you called my hair, Ronald McDonald

Sevan Matossian (29:43):

<laugh>. So yeah, even with Ronald McDonald hair, you can still, uh, do good in the world. Uh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Is Nick Matthews gonna post about the comments? Yeah. So anyway, that, that’s, that’s that. Uh, now back to.

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