#685 – Live Call In Show

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam. We’re live. I added stuff to the, uh, show notes before I, or, or, or after I sent it to you. Sorry. Not a lot. Just

Mattew Souza (00:14):

A couple refresh,

Sevan Matossian (00:15):

Just a couple things here in the beginning. Uh, paper, street, coffee, everything up until midnight tonight is 25% off with code seven, everything is 25% off. And, uh, it looks like, I never knew this, and I don’t know if it’s always like this, but it says free shipping with orders over 49 99. And I know some people have been telling me that the shipping was expensive. I’d gotten two dms like that over the last year. Uh, but now it’s, now it’s free with over 49 99. Anyway, that’s a hell of a deal. 25% off it only last till midnight tonight. Yeah. So those of you who need coffee, uh, head over there, use the code seven on, get $50, uh, and 1 cent worth of stuff. Get the free shipping

Mattew Souza (01:04):

<laugh>. Have you had that canned, the canned coffee? The canned Nitro cold Brew

Sevan Matossian (01:08):

Yet? I did. I had it yesterday.

Mattew Souza (01:09):

Yeah. It’s super good.

Sevan Matossian (01:11):

I, um, I, I tell myself I’m trying not to drink coffee after the show, but yesterday I went roller skating with the boys.

Mattew Souza (01:17):

Saw that.

Sevan Matossian (01:19):

And where’d you see that?

Mattew Souza (01:20):

I think on, uh, Haley’s Instagram.

Sevan Matossian (01:23):

Oh, no. Shit.

Mattew Souza (01:24):

Yeah, you looks good. You looked good out

Sevan Matossian (01:27):

There. I never, there’s, I’m out there.

Mattew Souza (01:30):


Sevan Matossian (01:31):

Oh, no. Oh no.

Mattew Souza (01:33):

It’s just a brief shot. It’s a brief

Sevan Matossian (01:35):

Shot. Oh, no. <laugh>. What’s going on here? Oh, is it in her story

Mattew Souza (01:41):

Without your permission? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:44):

Yeah. Let me see. Oh, yeah. Okay. Here, I’ll show this. This is, it was pretty, it was pretty fun. It was pretty fun.

Mattew Souza (01:52):

Let’s see. Look at that. How sweet.

Sevan Matossian (01:56):

There’s a, he’s skateboarding. Yeah, he thinks he’s skateboarding. That’s the first time I’ve been roller skating and I don’t know, since the seventh or eighth grade. <laugh>.

Mattew Souza (02:08):

That was awesome. I didn’t notice how he was like skateboarding it. The first time I saw it,

Sevan Matossian (02:13):

We went two days in a row. We went, uh, not yesterday, but the day before. And I didn’t roller skate. I just stood there. And anytime anyone had to go to the bathroom, I took him off the rink and took him to the bathroom. And then yesterday, uh, we went with some friends and, uh, we actually went with Allison and Brendan and their kids, and, uh, Donovan and his daughter. And, and Brendan’s like, Hey, are you gonna get out there? Don’t, don’t make me go out there by myself. So I went out there and it was dope. I loved it. That’s cool. Uh, Kenneth, the lab, 25% with free shipping is a steal. Yeah. It’s pretty time to get like a year’s worth of coffee. Just take advantage of that.

Mattew Souza (02:47):

Yeah. Load up.

Sevan Matossian (02:50):

Um, I was thinking about this today in the shower, the whole Floyd 19 thing again. And I was thinking about, um, the shit that Ka posted about me. And I was thinking about how many times in the last, like, starting with what Hillary did six months ago by actually showing the interview with Stacy Tova, basically showing how helpful it was to women everywhere to show that mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then to see it come up again two weeks ago instead of like, that chick, um, the Bethy chick saying, Hey, thank you Sevan for asking the hard questions. It’s, I’m toxic as shit

Mattew Souza (03:20):

<laugh>, which is,

Sevan Matossian (03:21):

It’s not even hard questions. Let me rephrase that. Thank you for asking the relevant questions. It’s not really that hard to be like, Hey, there’s women everywhere, girlfriends, moms, sisters and daughters taking hormones to affect their menstrual cycles. And to ask a professional athlete about that, who is so in tune with their body, it’s not hard. It’s, it’s definitely the right thing to do. And to be, it reminded me similar of the racism thing. There’s these women who think that they’re supporting women, but really they’re just fucking sending them back to the stone ages.

Mattew Souza (03:52):


Sevan Matossian (03:55):

And and then the people who, who have that, um, fallacy of argument where they, they, um, they appeal, what, what’s up, Caleb?

Mattew Souza (04:01):


Sevan Matossian (04:02):

They appeal, they appeal to authority saying that I’m not a doctor, so I can’t ask, um, a professional athlete how, um, taking, um, hormones is affecting their performance. And I understand, and I’m not stupid. I understand why it makes them feel uncomfortable, because when you talk to people about birth control, you’re swerving into their lane of their, of their sex life with their mate. And that, and that’s considered private. Uh, you know, I think for a lot of people. And, and I think that that’s appropriate too. But at that point, when you’re a public figure and you have that kind of knowledge, and Stacy was kind enough to share that. Yeah. The other girl’s, uh, other individual athletes told me that when they got off of, and she said whatever the birth control was, that it actually, they realized that the hormones that they were taking, uh, in order to be able to have unprotected sex and not get pregnant was, um, affecting their performance. And then he, and then furthermore, I, and I never went back, and I’ve told you guys this before, I never went back and looked at that interview after Katrin made those stupid fucking idiotic posts. And, um, the New York Times wrote that stuff, trying to make it sound like I did something bad, because I, I was actually in denial. Like, I, I not denial, I was afraid that maybe I did do something bad.

Mattew Souza (05:13):

It’s like when a cop gets behind you, like you question every, like, you know, you’re completely fine, and they get behind you and you’re like, wait, wait, what, what, what

Sevan Matossian (05:20):

Exactly was happening? It was exactly like that. And so as all that stuff comes up, I I, I, I’m having fun with it, and I’m actually want to grab that. I’m gonna grab that clip here from, uh, CrossFit’s, uh, YouTube here soon and, and kind of just show, show all that. And it, it made me realize that all the athletes, not just Karon, but so not all the athletes, but so many of the athletes that did post I’m out, how much harm they did. And when I was in the shower this morning, I started, I asked myself this question, what do you think the largest, and I don’t even know what this word means anymore, but I’m gonna use it anyway, and I apologize. What do you think the largest minority owned chain business in the world is?

Mattew Souza (06:04):


Sevan Matossian (06:05):

I I bet you it’s CrossFit.

Mattew Souza (06:08):

Oh, interesting.

Sevan Matossian (06:09):

I bet you it’s fucking CrossFit by far. I bet you there’s not even a second place. I mean, uh, every, every gym in South America’s owned by a minority. What do you think the largest chain owned by people with melanated skin is in the, in the United States?

Mattew Souza (06:26):

Like chain. Under singular brand.

Sevan Matossian (06:28):

I bet, I bet you, I bet you it’s CrossFit. And I’ve told this story before too. My wife was Greg Lawson’s, executive assistant for 10 years, very close to him, maybe closer to him than anybody else. And letters would come to Greg from all over the world. And often my wife would respond to him, and letters would come from prison, and this letter came from prison. And, and they would want, and they would want something from Greg, like, Hey, or they would just be thanking Greg. But there was this one particular letter that started coming from prison, and this guy wanted, I believe an L one manual. And my, and if I remember the story right, you couldn’t just send the whole manual. You could only send like one or two pages at a time.

Mattew Souza (07:10):


Sevan Matossian (07:12):

And so over the years, my wife, for months, she sent this guy the entire L one manual, like in pa one or two pages at a time. And she didn’t have to do that. No one told her, Hey, respond to these letters. She would just, since she was involved in organizing Greg’s life, she would just take the responsibility on her own and write back to these prisoners or whoever. And she sent this guy a shitload of, um, you know, pages from the L one. He eventually got to L one. And when she got, when the guy got outta prison, my wife checked on him and asked him, would you like to, or would you like to take the L one now for free? And he said, oh my God, of course. And then he said, Hey, I’d like to open an affiliate. And she said, okay, I’ll waive your affiliate fees for you. First of all, do you, I wanna ask you this, do you think any of that kind of stuff is going on now at CrossFit Inc?

Mattew Souza (07:58):


Sevan Matossian (07:59):

And that’s not a dig at them.

Mattew Souza (08:01):

No. That’s just, it’s not happening like that anymore.

Sevan Matossian (08:04):

You think any of that is happening? This guy happened to have black skin. My wife had no idea.

Mattew Souza (08:09):

How could she was letters.

Sevan Matossian (08:11):

Well, I mean, she should have asked, right? Excuse me. We have a, uh, we have, we have a quota. We only write back to black prisoners.

Mattew Souza (08:17):


Sevan Matossian (08:18):

Irrelevant. If you’re a white privileged prisoner, you can absolutely, if you’re privileged like, uh, Jason Tomlinson, then you absolutely cannot get a free oh one Daniel. So he goes to the L one for free. He gets his affiliate, uh, I think for free. And, um, he opens the affiliate. And two weeks before Greg writes Floyd 19, um, that guy’s on the, the CrossFit podcast, it was, it was Cory Allen of Bat Cave CrossFit. And he tells his story. Do you think in that time, any of those people like Karin who said, I’m out, have done anything that’s even close to just that one? And, and I I’m gonna tell you more stories, there’s thousands of these stories. Do you think that she’s done anything to, um, even to match that, to help help minorities to help, help what she wanted to cancel Greg for?

Mattew Souza (09:07):

Definitely not in that magnitude, if at

Sevan Matossian (09:09):

All. Do you think that she’s done anything for women at the magnitude of letting, um, what Stacy Tor did on the Chevon podcast, letting women know that the hormones are affecting your performance? Do you think she’s done one thing like that? No. You go over to her Instagram account and you look at her pictures of her with her, her, her, uh, all her fake ass pictures with her, um, stage pictures with her hockey playing, uh, boyfriend on the, um, in Idaho.

Mattew Souza (09:34):

I knew we had that do

Sevan Matossian (09:35):

In in Coeur d’Alene. Yeah, he’s been on this podcast too. I just text him the other day too, to say, what’s up?

Caleb Beaver (09:40):

We’ve had one twice.

Sevan Matossian (09:42):

Oh, we have,

Caleb Beaver (09:43):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Sevan Matossian (09:45):

I had to reach my, I had to reach my black quota minimum. Every black guy gets on the show twice. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s really the more and more I look back at it, it’s so fucking insane when you think about how bad these people are and the damage that they did to not just this company but society. Let me go on further to the affiliates to share this with you. When, when Greg sold the company, there was a gym downstairs at CrossFit HQ that was free and over, and it was only free. It was a, it was a, uh, it was a prejudice gym cuz it was only free for old people and fat people. You were not allowed to go there unless you were old or fat didn’t even matter if you were black. It was only for, and it had over a hundred clients that went there for free. And it had two full-time world class trainers, like full flow masters that rotated in and out to arguably maybe the best gym in the world. That gym is gone. That gym was shut down by Eric Rosa very quickly after, uh, he took over

Mattew Souza (10:52):

Such a bummer.

Sevan Matossian (10:53):

Do you think CrossFit’s doing anything like that right now?

Mattew Souza (10:56):

Do they do I’m afraid to ask. Do they even have a gym for like staff at the headquarters?

Sevan Matossian (11:02):

You have to, to, I wanna be very clear. This is not a dig at them now. They, they’re, they’re getting their bearing straight. I really like Dawn. We, we, we made a, we made a video the other day about affiliates in an affiliate commercial so that I could go pee. And I basically just sat in my garage and went off the cuff and we made an L one commercial. And that, that videos had over 1200 shares already. We’ve received over a hundred dms from affiliates saying, holy shit, mostly overseas affiliates. I wonder. So we, isn’t it weird that CrossFit hasn’t reposted that? I don’t want them to repost it, by the way. I’m more than happy with them not reposting it. We put it on YouTube and it’s already just getting crazy traction.

Mattew Souza (11:53):

Yeah. I wonder if when the last, uh, piece of content that’s been out by any of CrossFit’s handles that has had that same amount of impact within the community, amount of shares and stuff like that,

Sevan Matossian (12:03):

Do they not see what we’re doing over here? There’s like five things we’re doing. Every time we post a video like that, there’s five things we’re doing. We’re improving our brand, we’re taking air outta the room, we’re leveraging the community, we’re becoming the leaders. Do they, do they not? Do they, do you not do, let me tell you what’s going on over there. There’s people over there I bet who know how valuable that is. But then there’s people over there who have giant egos and they’re not putting the, they’re, they’re not prioritizing what’s important. If you work at hq, the most important thing to you has to be the affiliates. It has to be, it has to be, it has to be. Even if you don’t want it to be, it has to

Mattew Souza (12:49):

Be true. Yeah. It’s your life blood. Without those,

Sevan Matossian (12:52):

Would you like me to cut off your finger or take out your heart? No one chooses their heart.


You have to pick one. I wanna also go on to say that during the time at CrossFit, and I wish I could tell you this exact number, but I don’t know, but while I was at CrossFit, I guarantee you Greg gave away over 500. But it, but it might be 5,000, but he gave away over 501 year. Um, l l uh, not L ones. Uh, he did that too, but he gave away over 501 year memberships to affiliates at $2,000 a year. That’s a million dollars. The reason why I know is cuz I was always with Greg and it would go like this. We would be at line at Starbucks, there would be some lady who’s obese behind us or in front of us. Greg would start talking to him and be like, Hey, do you wanna get into one of our gyms? Find a gym near you and then email Sevan.


And then she would email me or she would call me and then I would call the affiliate and I would set the affiliate up with our accounting team and they would pay for the membership. So that’s, that right there is a minimum of a million dollars of his own money that he pumped back in to give memberships to people at affiliates. I personally, I bet you I gave away 500 to be honest. And I bet you Greg gave away 5,000. I bet you Greg gave away 10 million of his own money in in affiliate memberships. I bet you. Do you think any of that is going on now? Do you think any of that is going on now? Do you think there, there’s anyone besides Don who can do that? It’s, it’s just, it’s, it’s just fascinating to me. Fascinating. Do you think Greg looked at these people and was like, Hey, that guy’s a black guy. He gets a free membership. That guy’s a Native American. No.

Mattew Souza (14:43):


Sevan Matossian (14:44):


Mattew Souza (14:45):

See, they need it. They could benefit

Sevan Matossian (14:47):

Your skin killer. Never, ever, ever mattered. Your sex never mattered. All you idiots out there who’s still using the word gender, conflating it with sex, God, you’re, you’re just, you are just part of the problem. Stop doing that. Just use the right word. It’s sex

Mattew Souza (15:07):

<laugh>. I wonder, I wonder if Dave could give away affiliate memberships or,

Sevan Matossian (15:15):

I used to get in trouble cause I gave away so many l ones <laugh>.

Mattew Souza (15:19):

Like you would make the promise and then you’d come back and you’d be like, Hey, so I was talking to this guy when they’re like, damnit sev, you didn’t give that away. And you’re like, they could really benefit from it. They made it.

Sevan Matossian (15:28):

They would, they, I I would always be accused of doing it. Like to show off how powerful I was.

Mattew Souza (15:32):

Yeah. You know that

Sevan Matossian (15:34):

Understanding. You’re just doing that to show off. Okay, I, whatever the reason is,

Mattew Souza (15:42):


Sevan Matossian (15:42):

Whatever, whatever the reason is,

Mattew Souza (15:45):

Dude, I tried to get into that underserved class multiple times

Sevan Matossian (15:48):

To teach

Mattew Souza (15:49):

It, not not to teach it, just to observe it, just to get close. Just that, you know, I messaged, um, I talked to Pat Sherwin, I messaged Katie Hogan. I think I messaged Wes pt, uh, I can’t remember who else I messaged

Sevan Matossian (16:04):

When Greg wanted to start the program, um, since I was in the office, unlike that guy who, that caller who said I was never in the office since I was one of the only executives in the office every day. I started the program under Greg’s guidance. And when I say started, I basically called Jenny Lao, who ran our gym at the time. And I said, Hey, and, and we held a meeting downstairs and Rory was involved in kudos to Rory, Rory Mccn, who’s over there at Mayhem now. He, um, I think he’s prob I think he’s Rich’s manager. But they they got it up and going. Uh, Rory knew someone who had like a local news show on Facebook in the Scotts Valley, Santa Cruz area. And he basically said, Hey, fatties and old fuckers, oh, we got a free gym for you

Mattew Souza (16:49):

<laugh>. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (16:50):

And, and, and, and the program started taking off. And then eventually, um, Jenny got fired for no reason, which was at absolutely fucking nuts. Probably one of the best trainers I’d ever, ever seen in my fucking life. Um, they, uh, she got fired and then they started rotating in L one trainers and that’s when they had Michelle Motz and Zach Pine down there. And what was the guy’s name you said from CrossFit Gilroy or whatever?

Mattew Souza (17:15):


Sevan Matossian (17:16):

Yeah, he would be there a lot. My mom would go there and, and my mom was kind of like the token fit. She was old but she was too fit to be in the class <laugh>, but they still let her go there. My mom would go there and beat up on those fuckers.

Mattew Souza (17:30):

Yeah. Some of those people in that class that were like upwards of a hundred, 125 pounds overweight and stuff, their whole workout was listening to the whiteboard debrief, walking out to the car for the warmup and like coming back in and like sitting on the high box. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (17:45):

There were, there were, there were several people in there who were 400 pounds or more. Yeah, I remember watching them do their bures. What they did is they would stand like 12 inches away from the wall and then just fall against the wall and then push themselves back

Mattew Souza (17:55):

Up. Well that was one of the reasons why I wanted to get in that class is you got to really see the creativity as far as like adjusting and scaling the workouts from those L one, uh, trainers. And so it was that. And then just watching how they handled objections and stuff and cuz you know, the whole deal, especially for you guys and it looks like Heidi’s gonna go get her L one next week and congrats.

Sevan Matossian (18:14):

She is.

Mattew Souza (18:14):

Yeah. She put in the comments, um, you’re gonna hear a theme which is like, be relentless with the people you’re coaching. Be relentless. So I was just wanted to be around them as they were like still interjecting that, but into a group that, um, you have to be dynamic in the way that you’re, you’re being relentless in what you’re being relentless with when you’re giving ’em the material. Cause it’s such a slow roll start for them.

Sevan Matossian (18:38):

Um, I, Robert, uh, Sevan, would you open ever open your own affiliate? So I used to, when I first started CrossFit, I would take, I would load up the back of my pickup truck every single day and I would go to this track that was a, uh, you know, a, a track like, and it had pull up bars there and it had grass in the middle. And I would go there and train with my wife every single day. And slowly over time, after about a year, I probably had 10 people that would come there and work out with me every single day. Just random people that I had met at the track. And at that time I thought it would be cool to open an affiliate. Since then, and I’ve been talking to s about this a lot lately. I we’re actually gonna do a show here very soon on what it takes to run an affiliate and, and basically by what it takes not about any of the emotional or ethical or uh, commitment to excellence and we’re gonna talk about just the numbers.


We’re gonna pull up a spreadsheet and we are gonna look at all the numbers of what it takes to run an affiliate. And to be completely frank with you, that shit scares the shit outta me. And that’s why I don’t think I would ever run an affiliate cuz I’ve run the numbers in on, on paper before. And if you have 200 affiliates who pay $200 a month and you have, and you have $16,000 a month in overhead, that means it was, I think roughly, I think the numbers were, is that you would have to run every single class yourself with no coaches and you’d only make $48,000 a year <laugh>.

Mattew Souza (20:04):

Yeah. The numbers don’t, don’t look great.

Sevan Matossian (20:07):

And that scares the shit outta me.

Mattew Souza (20:09):


Sevan Matossian (20:11):

That really, uh, those, and, and, and recently say that again. Kayla

Caleb Beaver (20:17):

Said You make as much about as much as I do.

Sevan Matossian (20:20):

There you go. There you go. I’d rather go

Caleb Beaver (20:24):

On your own business.

Mattew Souza (20:25):

200 gyms,

Sevan Matossian (20:26):

<laugh>. Yeah, but you get to be part of an equity experiment. You’re, you’re doing God’s work. Kayla.

Caleb Beaver (20:31):

I think I I’ve gotten pretty good

Mattew Souza (20:34):


Sevan Matossian (20:34):

Um, I, I was going to do my L one on the third of next month but cannot going to look for the next one. You guys please send me dms, um, telling me about your L one experience. I’m all, I love hearing that

Mattew Souza (20:45):

Be such a, a shame if big and flexi went and somebody from HQ didn’t chat with them at that, um, at that L one.

Sevan Matossian (20:53):

Yeah, for sure. For sure. Uh, Corey, good morning.

Caleb Beaver (20:57):

What’s up Corey Polito from North Carolina. My genders are

Sevan Matossian (21:02):

<laugh>. What are your pronouns please?

Caleb Beaver (21:06):

<laugh> <laugh>, please.

Sevan Matossian (21:06):

Um, I don’t wanna miss prom. I going You I get canceled. Yeah.

Caleb Beaver (21:10):

<laugh>, does that trigger you?

Mattew Souza (21:13):


Caleb Beaver (21:14):

Hey. Yeah. I don’t to, I don’t wanna I the L one talk, but, um, I gotta get something off my

Sevan Matossian (21:19):


Caleb Beaver (21:21):

Dude. What’s, what’s up with your hate on tattoos lately?

Sevan Matossian (21:25):

Oh, it’s been something probably cuz I’m just too scared to get one myself. It’s probably not.

Caleb Beaver (21:30):

I figure that’s

Sevan Matossian (21:31):

What it was. I’m probably overcompensating for. Yeah, I’m probably overcompensating cuz I want one too much

Caleb Beaver (21:43):

With you. With you’ve got some jacked up tattoo story

Sevan Matossian (21:49):

<laugh>. Every everyone who has a tattoo has a, like multiple tattoos has a jacked up tattoo story.

Caleb Beaver (21:55):

Yeah. Like I, I like what I have now, but it took, you know, close to 15 years and some shitty tattoos to get to where I am right now. I’ve got like 30, someone was saying 200 hours under the needle. Yeah. I think I’ve got like close to 30 hours under the needle. You can’t really see any of ’em except for a little bit on my chest. But I mean, I’ve got like the wrong dates tattooed on that. I had to fix <laugh>, um, <laugh>, uh, my, my dad and our first tattoo at 18 said, let’s get matching tattoos. And I got like a true fucking Mexican. I got my name blasted across the back of my name, like a soccer jersey.

Sevan Matossian (22:34):

Hey, see, I approve of that. I approve of that. I approve of that. Like see the way you said that, like a true Mexican, like I approve of that. You got it in that gangster. You got it in that gangster goth writing the old English. Yeah, yeah. Old English. Yeah, I’m cool with

Caleb Beaver (22:47):

That. And my, my, my dad comes out of the room and he didn’t get it. We were supposed to geting tattoos and was Oh, I, I decided not to get it <laugh>, i i something on arm and said, and I’m like, what the fuck? This is a, a lunch. Yeah. And so I waited another six years and then I got my nephew’s birthday tattooed on my ribs and I showed it to my sister and her first response was, is this a fucking joke? And I was like, what? And she said That’s that’s not his birthday.

Sevan Matossian (23:16):


Caleb Beaver (23:18):

Wow. Yeah. And so, so I, I sat another six years without getting tattoos until I finally got ’em all.

Sevan Matossian (23:24):

I know which ones I’ll get, I know which ones I’ll get if I get them. I’ve already decided I would get, uh, my wife, um, naked on my forearm. You guys say this one and black and white, like with her hands behind her head, like with her legs. Like a pinup girl? Yeah, like a pinup girl, which is big old titties. And then, and I would do that in black and white. I would get, um, uh, you know, Popeye when he would eat the spinach and flex his muscle, he would have the tank there and then another tank came out of the turret and another tank came out. I would do that on the bicep and then on my chest I would do the, a huge pirate ship shooting cannons with skeletons on the deck with swords like the old Sinbad Claymation movies from the, uh, sixties.

Mattew Souza (24:04):

Oh, profile view of the ship.

Sevan Matossian (24:06):

Huge, huge front

Mattew Souza (24:08):

View of the ship or profile? Front

Caleb Beaver (24:09):


Sevan Matossian (24:10):

Front view. Just the cannons shooting at you with uh, yeah. Yeah. That I get that <laugh>.

Caleb Beaver (24:15):

He, he’s not big enough to get the profile <laugh>. So those are,

Sevan Matossian (24:20):

Those are my, um, those are my, uh, and, and maybe, maybe on the, maybe on my penis. Your, your mom was here. Maybe <laugh> if I get right on the shaft. Yeah, right on. Yeah, right down the shaft

Caleb Beaver (24:35):

Or like on trans stamp that says exit only

Sevan Matossian (24:38):

<laugh>. No, no, not that. But I appreciate the thought of that. I appreciate the, uh, uh, there’s the, this, this is, uh, this is a little, this is getting a little close to don’t lie. Seon, you get shirtless rich phoning. There’s, I don’t know, <laugh> not opposed.

Mattew Souza (24:53):

Not a bad idea.

Sevan Matossian (24:55):

Not opposed,

Caleb Beaver (24:55):

Just, just had to speak much or get the calls rolling. Okay,

Sevan Matossian (24:58):

Thank you Corey. Thanks Corey. Thanks for unfuck me. Okay. Uhon, you should get a tell of a rainbow, rainbow flag. I dunno. Sometimes

Mattew Souza (25:09):

Color doesn’t look that great on tattoos.

Sevan Matossian (25:12):

Um, you were talking about people who never did CrossFit before their level one without doing CrossFit. That was me. I love the course, but definitely mis absorbing some stuff because I was worried about the test. Wow. Wow. Yeah, I the test really is not important and um, the test is really not important. But that’s amazing, Mike, that you took it without doing CrossFit. Uh, I don’t recommend doing it that way, but all the gyms were closed when I got mine. I recommend doing it that way. No, I don’t like the butthole stuff. <laugh> not so much. Not so much.


Anyway, that was my whole thing. It’s just, it’s so, it’s so, it’s so weird to reflect back on how much the millions of dollars worth of money he gave for, so people basically, it would work like this too. He would, he would see someone, he’d be like, I’ll, you can sign up for a gym for three months for free and I’ll pay for it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then he would tell Haley, my wife or or he would tell me, Hey, if after three months they like it extended another nine months. And they always did. Of course they always did. They ended up, and, and, and just imagine how many of those he gave away it thousands. I bet. And none of those people did any research. What made me also think about this is we’re having a guy named, uh, Xavier Za on tomorrow. And was he a member at your gym? Susan?

Mattew Souza (26:44):

Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

He’s man, he’s a go-getter that that dude can fucking talk. Yeah, I watched a bunch of his videos last night. His fucking shit is tight. He, he knows what he’s talking about.

Mattew Souza (26:54):

He is, he’s real sharp. But actually that’s why he said was a member because he got so much opportunity through like preger you and stuff now that he’s just tra I don’t know if you, how closely you fall, but sometimes he’ll post up like his travel schedule and stuff.

Sevan Matossian (27:06):

It’s crazy. He’s

Mattew Souza (27:07):

Busy. Yeah. I mean, and that, that was his goal. Like as he was working through it, I still remember, I, I told him when he got like his first like 5,000 followers or something, I was like, Hey, don’t forget who your number one fan was. I would always talk to him about his content stuff at the gym and things like that. And he, yeah, he blew up rightfully so. I mean, he talks really well. He is articulate, he’s sharp and he is dynamic in his background of how he got to where he is at. So it made interesting story.

Sevan Matossian (27:31):

I i, this is gonna be a really bold statement, but I was thinking as I was watching his videos last night that it’s never been more relevant to be melanated than any point in time since slavery. Because in the irony here is, this goes against everything I was saying, but this is actually the time to actually judge people by the color of their skin based on the ones who have black skin who are now speaking up. Because what they are doing is they’re, they’re, they’re basically set, they’re, they are making the attempt at setting the white man free from the cage of insisting that racism exists or that they’re racist. They’re, it’s, it’s so fucking brave what they’re fucking doing. It was the same thing that I would’ve loved someone, uh, in the, uh, you know, in the type two diabetes or obese community to speak up during covid or someone from the elderly to speak up during Covid. And by the parallel I’m drawing there is, is they can, they can say things that white people are just terrified to say. And I’m not justifying that they should be terrified they should speak up. I just did a post last night. Like, I, I wonder, I think half my friends are racists who parade around as not racist and the other half are cowards. That’s like, those are the two categories I could put like the vast majority of my friends into.


So it’s, it’s such a trip. It’s so weird when to have people come on my show and I’ve had a private, I’ve had a hundred private conversations about them, about their opinions, about covid and racism. And then on this show they’re pointing, they can’t even, they stay away from it like the plague cuz they’re so scared.

Mattew Souza (29:23):

Not everybody’s a salmon.

Sevan Matossian (29:25):

And then the other people, like my friend Beth Bethany, she’s, she’s parading around to someone who wants to protect women, but really just build bars for them. Stay in your cage.

Mattew Souza (29:36):

Attention seeking. Populist attention.

Sevan Matossian (29:39):

Seeking populist. Yeah. That, that’s a great phrase.

Mattew Souza (29:43):

And some voices are more powerful and influential and are impactful over, over others in certain times.

Sevan Matossian (29:49):

Yeah. It’s so, it’s so good to hear this guy. It’s like, it’s so good to hear this guy, uh, Xavier Ds speak

Mattew Souza (29:58):

And the his age group and stuff like the.

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