#679 – Scott Panchik

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Spam or live? Where are you

Caleb Beaver (00:04):


Sevan Matossian (00:07):

You’re outside?

Caleb Beaver (00:09):


Sevan Matossian (00:10):

Like if you look up, you stare into the heavens?

Caleb Beaver (00:13):

No, there’s a roof

Sevan Matossian (00:16):

<laugh>, uh, out to your left. Is that just out to the open air? That’s just, yeah. Wow. It’s already nighttime there.

Caleb Beaver (00:29):

Yeah, it’s a little dark.

Sevan Matossian (00:32):

Um, how come you’re outside?

Caleb Beaver (00:36):

Um, uh, I dunno.

Sevan Matossian (00:41):

Is that room, is your normal, is your normal room taken?

Caleb Beaver (00:46):

Uh, yeah. Like the whole, yeah, there’s something going on. I’m not sure exactly.

Sevan Matossian (00:52):

You’re not sure? You can’t or you can’t tell us?

Caleb Beaver (00:56):

Uh, both. It’s, it’s nothing crazy. It’s just like they just needed that facility for something.

Sevan Matossian (01:03):

Or like, there were someone spotted mice and now they’re like doing a fu mitigation or something like that.

Caleb Beaver (01:08):

Yeah, probably something like

Sevan Matossian (01:09):

That. Have you seen any animals where you’re at?

Caleb Beaver (01:12):


Sevan Matossian (01:12):

SCO Any scorpions or crazy bugs or any they got anything or nothing lives out there?

Caleb Beaver (01:19):

They’re, I’ve seen some snakes and some mice. We’ve killed a mouse that was, uh, burrowing in our clinic. And then

Sevan Matossian (01:32):


Caleb Beaver (01:33):


Sevan Matossian (01:33):

Just kind mouse trap. Just stand your standard mouse trap.

Caleb Beaver (01:36):

Mouse trap, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:37):

High tech.

Caleb Beaver (01:38):

Yeah. Super cool. Uh, otherwise not really. A lot of birds. Like this is like, probably the only place where they’re actually gonna get food and stuff. So Birds. Oh, we’ve got some cats too.

Sevan Matossian (01:48):

Hey, will we hear any birds? How come I don’t hear any birds?

Caleb Beaver (01:53):

Um, cause I’m not near any trees. They’re, and usually the, like right at about seven o’clock, no. Uh, probably right before sunset, all the birds will like, flock to the trees and just like, it’ll just be a mass exodus to the trees and they’ll just be chirping like crazy and then they’ll land, they’ll just chill for the night over by the trees. Are

Sevan Matossian (02:15):

They like, what? Are they like startling? Are they those black birds you see like in the Walmart parking lot and like half of them have like one mangled leg. How come all those birds have mangled legs? How come all those birds feed are fucked up?

Caleb Beaver (02:26):

I have no idea, but they, they’re like little, um, sparrows, like the tiny, little like brown.

Sevan Matossian (02:31):


Caleb Beaver (02:32):

Like speckled ones.

Sevan Matossian (02:34):

How about that light? How about that light you just showed us? Will that thing have bats all around it in an hour?

Caleb Beaver (02:41):

No. Uh, no bats? No. No

Sevan Matossian (02:44):


Caleb Beaver (02:45):

Yeah. No bats? Not that I’ve seen. There could be any insect.

Sevan Matossian (02:48):

I’ve seen any insect issues.

Caleb Beaver (02:51):

Mostly just flies. We have a crazy fly issue. It’s gotten better since it’s gotten colder, but they’re just, they’re incessant. They’ll like fly around your face and they’ll land on you and they like, don’t care.

Sevan Matossian (03:04):

Uh, reg, regular flies like, are regular American house flies or like those smaller ones?

Caleb Beaver (03:09):

Yeah, like a regular American house. Fl. It’s crazy though, because they don’t bite. Like I’ve had like flies back home. They’re just like, they’ll land on you and they’ll bite. They’ll just like nip at your skin, but,

Sevan Matossian (03:21):

Oh, I, we don’t, we don’t have any biting flies really? In California.

Caleb Beaver (03:26):

Oh, really?

Sevan Matossian (03:27):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, look at me and you both on the trigger at the same time trying to put Scott up top.

Scott Panchik (03:31):


Sevan Matossian (03:32):

Two people try to put him on top and he ends on the bottom. What’s up dude?

Scott Panchik (03:35):

Hey, how are you guys?

Sevan Matossian (03:37):

Amazing. I’m, I’m amazing. I’m trying to figure out what’s going on with Caleb. I can’t, I can’t tell when I see that backdrop. I just think Uhoh.

Scott Panchik (03:48):

It’s a little terrifying.

Sevan Matossian (03:51):

What’s that hanging on your wall, Scott?

Scott Panchik (03:53):

Right here. Right

Sevan Matossian (03:54):

Here? Yeah. That like that? Yeah. Like that mandala thing? I

Scott Panchik (03:57):

Don’t know. It’s a decoration down in the mommy. The mommy pod. This is, uh, my basement where my, uh, mother-in-law comes and watches, uh, Kinsley from time to time

Sevan Matossian (04:10):

Calls her and she and she hung that she decorated it herself?

Scott Panchik (04:14):

No. Uh, my wife Kristen did, but not the mommy pod. It’s the Grammy pod. I

Sevan Matossian (04:18):

Apologize. Grammy pod, Grammy

Scott Panchik (04:20):

Pie brand.

Sevan Matossian (04:20):

Todd, is that thing handmade? Is that like, that’s probably like some, that’s probably some heirloom from that side of the family. Scott, you gotta find out what that is. Its that probably made by someone’s grandma could

Scott Panchik (04:31):

Or it could, it could be from Amazon. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (04:34):

<laugh> or We drove by the thrift store. My wife saw it and just grabbed

Scott Panchik (04:37):

It, you know, and it just looked nice. Looked like it matched the walls and get the job done.

Caleb Beaver (04:42):


Sevan Matossian (04:43):

No, he’s not in a bunk. He’s outside. He’s underneath some awning of what looks like some makeshift military base. Like boxes. That’s

Scott Panchik (04:52):

What I thinking

Sevan Matossian (04:52):

I was thinking. Yeah, he’s definitely somewhere like that. He’s definitely somewhere like that. Usually he’s inside. He’s usually inside of like, um, some ho some room at the hospital, you know, where they treat people. Like you can see like the stethoscopes and the sh the pictures on the walls of like an anus so that the doctor can be like, Hey, you have a poly up there. And you know, like, you know what I mean? Like the diagrams. And he’s gone.

Scott Panchik (05:13):

He’s gone. We’re you and me buddy?

Sevan Matossian (05:18):

Do do you have, do you have two kids?

Scott Panchik (05:20):

I got one on the way.

Sevan Matossian (05:22):

Like <crosstalk>. How,

Scott Panchik (05:22):

How Any day now?

Sevan Matossian (05:24):

Like any day.

Scott Panchik (05:25):

Any day. Like the 30th we’re going in, um, for a c scheduled C-section. But if it comes before that she is uh, gonna try to have a natural birth.

Sevan Matossian (05:36):

Like, so she could literally come downstairs now and be like, okay Scott, I’m having contractions. Has she, has she those Braxton Hicks ones? Have those started? Oh

Scott Panchik (05:44):

Yeah. Those are intense. I’ll tell you

Sevan Matossian (05:47):

What. So you’ve heard folks

Scott Panchik (05:48):

Don’t get enough credit

Sevan Matossian (05:49):

<laugh>? I do

Scott Panchik (05:50):

Not get enough credit because that is not something I would ever want to do.

Sevan Matossian (05:56):

Don’t you just wanna know what one feels like? I’m just like, the whole time I you,

Scott Panchik (06:00):

I’ve said that just one. What does it feel like, like when you like, see it like moving around in there and I’m just like, oh my gosh. It’s just like such a crazy feeling and concept to wrap my head around.

Sevan Matossian (06:17):

Um, is your wife, is your wife enjoying the process? You think you’ll have a third? Is she kinda like addicted to the process?

Scott Panchik (06:24):

I wouldn’t say she’s addicted to the process. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (06:27):


Scott Panchik (06:28):

Um, I don’t know. We’ll see what happens, but, uh, we got a boy coming and we have a girl. So kind of check both boxes. Repopulated the world, you know, doing our part

Sevan Matossian (06:39):

<laugh>, it, it, it seems like just like the box that I keep you in, all the prejudice and discrimination that I project onto you, um, from where you live and you what state are you in?

Scott Panchik (06:49):


Sevan Matossian (06:50):

Yeah. You seem like that’s like a four, four kid state.

Scott Panchik (06:54):


Sevan Matossian (06:55):

<laugh> four kids.

Scott Panchik (06:57):

I mean, I came for, I came from a family of six kids. Uh, I think you were probably under the assumption that I was gonna try to match or beat that

Sevan Matossian (07:05):

<laugh>. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know what? Six? It’s just a good number.

Scott Panchik (07:08):

It’s just, you know, it’s even round <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (07:11):

How old are you Scott?

Scott Panchik (07:13):

Uh, today’s my, uh, 35th birthday, actually.

Sevan Matossian (07:16):

Holy cow. Happy birthday.

Scott Panchik (07:18):

Thanks. I appreciate

Sevan Matossian (07:20):

It. Holy shit. Thanks for doing this. Is it cold downstairs where you’re at?

Scott Panchik (07:24):

A little bit.

Sevan Matossian (07:25):

Yeah. You need to dehumidifier her down there. Will mold start growing on the walls?

Scott Panchik (07:29):

No. We have, we have one of those.

Sevan Matossian (07:30):

You do have one. Oh, awesome.

Scott Panchik (07:31):

Everybody’s got one of those in their basement. You don’t know what kind of weather you’re gonna get. We had a couple weeks ago it was like, can the mid sixties almost 70 and then drop the below 35 within like three days.

Sevan Matossian (07:45):

Uh, snow on the ground.

Scott Panchik (07:46):

Oh yeah.

Sevan Matossian (07:47):


Scott Panchik (07:47):

Yeah, I mean, my wife is from Buffalo and I don’t know if you saw any pictures of the stadium, but they had to move the game to Detroit and

Sevan Matossian (07:56):

Oh, I saw a headline. Yeah.

Scott Panchik (07:58):

Yeah, the Browns and uh, the Bills played there and it was their stadium in Buffalo was just, I’d never seen anything like that.

Sevan Matossian (08:06):

Was it some sort of record too, where the headlines like, hey more. Oh look it, we got a backup dude and <laugh>

Mattew Souza (08:12):

The back, the backup dudes here. I saw Caleb disappear from front of the punker. Figured I’d, uh, come help out. What’s up Scott? How you doing, bro?

Scott Panchik (08:21):

I’m good. How are you?

Sevan Matossian (08:22):

I’m good man. Matt Su have you guys met before? Oh yeah. On the show?

Scott Panchik (08:27):

Yeah, we met at Guap too. Briefly.

Sevan Matossian (08:29):

Yeah. Cool. Hey, um, was that, were those record numbers in Buffalo? What happened there? Can you pull that up? Su if you have a chance. Sorry, I know you just came on, but look at the stadium in in Buffalo. What happened there? Was it that much? They just weren’t prepared for it.

Scott Panchik (08:44):

It is just a crazy amount of snow. Like, I, I don’t know what the total amount was, but it had have been I think three, four feet

Sevan Matossian (08:56):

And, and, and, and it’s not a dome than that. So the inside of the stadium. Okay.

Scott Panchik (09:01):

No, well they, they moved it to, um, Detroit and that is a dome. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (09:07):

Hey, when you played in college, did you ever play in the snow?

Scott Panchik (09:11):

Yeah, all our, all our playoff games were at Mount Union every year. I was there because we went undefeated, uh, up until the Holy Stag.

Sevan Matossian (09:21):

Holy shit. Look at that one down on the bottom. Sza. Which one? Uh, on the go down Lower. Lower to the right one. To the right one.

Scott Panchik (09:31):

Yeah. I was watching the game and they were talking about how the fans were actually going to the players’ houses and helping them get out their house.

Sevan Matossian (09:40):

Oh. Like dig them out.

Scott Panchik (09:41):

They were like digging the players outta their house. Yeah. They didn’t really practice much and they still beat the brown

Sevan Matossian (09:47):

<laugh>. Wow. That’s insane.

Scott Panchik (09:52):

Yeah. Isn’t that crazy?

Sevan Matossian (09:53):

Yeah. Do you ever have a game call? Um, you played, uh, at, um, mountain Union and, and you were running back there?

Scott Panchik (10:00):


Sevan Matossian (10:02):

And uh, a division three school.

Scott Panchik (10:06):

You got it

Sevan Matossian (10:08):

And you were a starter?

Scott Panchik (10:11):

Um, my senior year I started, yeah. And I played a little bit of slot receiver my junior year and then I was like, uh, I went five years. I was on that, you know, five year plan and, uh, came back out for my fifth year. But, uh, unfortunately had some, um, knee issues that, uh, prevented me from playing that year.

Sevan Matossian (10:33):

Isn’t it? Isn’t it sort of trippy these three particular events that happened at peaks of your three or four particular events that happened at peaks of your career?

Scott Panchik (10:44):

Yeah, definitely gave me some flashbacks for sure.

Sevan Matossian (10:49):

Yeah. But

Scott Panchik (10:50):

It also is like a transition. Like, I don’t know, I think, I think God, uh, kind of shifts your, your mindset and you’re your life in a different directions at different times. And it’s crazy. I, I’ve told people this on a number of occasions, but if I would’ve gotten to play my fifth year as a starter and went and won a national championship, I don’t know if I would’ve like been as interested in like really digging into CrossFit the way I did early on. But it, you know, left something inside of me that was just like, man, I wanna, I want to compete again. I wanna find a way to like run onto a competition floor and, and who I, I couldn’t believe that 10 years went by without having any issues with my body. And I think that really speaks volume to like what CrossFit does for you. Because I had three, uh, knee reconstructive surgeries playing college from playing college football. So to go 10 years in the sport before having any issues with those, I was, I was pretty happy.

Sevan Matossian (11:53):

I think a lot of people, I wanna say most even my guess is that most people would’ve used those injuries that you had, uh, playing college football as an excuse to not do CrossFit. Hey, I can’t do CrossFit cause I have a bad knee. I can’t do CrossFit cause I have a bad back. I can’t do CrossFit. Yeah.

Scott Panchik (12:08):

Yeah. I’m, I laugh because I’m like, no, this would be really good for you. Cause if we can get your quads and your hamstrings nice and strong, it takes a lot of, uh, tension off those knees.

Sevan Matossian (12:21):

And, and you had all the things jacked up, right? Like the mcl, the patella, the acl, like anything with three letters, you had kind of all jacked up.

Scott Panchik (12:29):

Yeah, I had, uh, ACL twice and PCL once in college.

Sevan Matossian (12:35):

Oh, look, Caleb’s back. He’s alive. He move. Let’s see what he is doing.

Mattew Souza (12:39):

Undisclosed location number

Sevan Matossian (12:41):

Two. Now you’re inside and you’re under a bed. No audio <laugh>. All right, that’s cool.

Scott Panchik (12:50):


Mattew Souza (12:51):

Maybe he’s like sitting top bunk right now and he can’t talk quite allow any care, so, oh no, he’s

Sevan Matossian (12:56):

Frozen. That’s a great guess that there’s someone sleeping in the room. Yeah, that’s, I like that. Guess he’s not shaking his head or nodding his head.

Mattew Souza (13:04):

He might be frozen.

Scott Panchik (13:05):

He just wants to listen. He’s to listen.

Mattew Souza (13:07):

Easier to watch. Don’t

Sevan Matossian (13:09):

<laugh>. Do you remember that guy, um, on Sesame Street who used to just, he would paint, he never talked and he wore a trench coat and he would paint numbers on shit. Like he’d be in an elevator and he’d paint a number on it and then someone would lean up against, do you remember that guy? Sometimes Caleb reminds me of him cuz he is so stoic.

Scott Panchik (13:26):


Sevan Matossian (13:28):

Oh. And now his internet’s gone again. I can kind of, I can see a box down here in the waiting room where, where Caleb hangs out and he, and he’s flickering in and out. Uh, there was a fascinating story I heard on a podcast you did that I bet you a lot of people haven’t heard where you, um, speaking of God, where you did, did no, not that guy, but I like no guy.

Scott Panchik (13:53):

Did you do a voiceover <laugh>?

Sevan Matossian (13:55):

Not that guy. This was like a real char a real person. And listen, listen Sesame Street, I know you guys have completely lost your way. I mean, I know. I don’t know why I’m even bothering giving you advice. You’re so, you’ve turned into something that’s good for kids to brainwash epicenter of disgust. But, um, no, no more characters with trench coats. <laugh>. It’s as a, as a fashion expert. The, the people in trench coats don’t, shouldn’t be hanging with kids. It’s

Mattew Souza (14:24):

Just fashionista.

Sevan Matossian (14:26):

Yeah. As a fashionista. Um, you, you, after this, uh, I, I don’t remember what injury it was, maybe you can fill in some of the missing spots, but after one of your, um, injuries, you were like, you were feeling distant, you were feeling a little empty inside, and you went out and you got a Bible and you opened the, you were thinking about opening the Bible and you’re like, shit’s too complicated. I’m, I’m not gonna understand. Could, could you tell us that story and, and what that, are you still doing the Bible study to this day?

Scott Panchik (14:56):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. We actually, we did it on, we had our last one Thursday, and we’re taking a little break between now and New Year because we have the baby coming and then we’ll pick back up. Okay. Um, but it actually was not, uh, an injury. It was, um, our first pregnancy. We ended up losing our first, uh, child

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

Complic. How, how many weeks it complications, how, how, how many weeks in,

Scott Panchik (15:23):

Um, 11,

Sevan Matossian (15:26):

11 weeks in. Yeah.


Um, we, uh, just for whatever it’s worth, um, we lost our first one at 13 weeks. We never saw the baby because we, she had never gone to the doctor. So like, for all we know, it was a, it may have been, you know, sometimes women’s bodies will say that they’re pregnant when they’re not. Like there won’t be a fertilized egg or something. But, but I remember she lost the first one and the third one, and then, and then we had the twins. This probably ended up being a long story with all my questions after you lost the first one, how traumatic was that for? Did she use a lot of blood physically? How traumatic was

Scott Panchik (16:01):

It for? Um, can you gimme one second? Let me plug my iPad in. It’s dying. Gimme

Sevan Matossian (16:05):

Two seconds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks for coming prepared. I appreciate it.

Mattew Souza (16:09):


Sevan Matossian (16:11):

He’s like, shit, I thought this gonna be a 10 minute interview. I

Scott Panchik (16:14):


Mattew Souza (16:16):


Sevan Matossian (16:16):

Hey, to be honest with you, Scott, it was gonna be, I was like, okay. I told the boys, I’m like, we only need Scott for like 30 minutes. We’ll fucking pry into whether he is gonna compete at the games and then we’ll cut him loose. But then I started researching you last night for like two hours on the assault bike. I’m like, fuck that. We got shit to talk about.

Scott Panchik (16:31):

Yeah. I was like, oh, it’ll be 10 minutes. And I was like, I got 24% and we burned through that real quick. So,

Sevan Matossian (16:37):

And if you have to go, just cut me loose if you have to go.

Scott Panchik (16:39):

I just texted my wife and I was like, Hey, can you bring me an

Sevan Matossian (16:43):

<laugh>? She wattles down the stairs. Hey, here you go. Asshole

Mattew Souza (16:47):


Scott Panchik (16:48):

She did. She did. But um, but yeah, so that was where me, uh, wanting to dig into the Bible a little bit more had had come from. Um, I really wanted to just get a better understanding of life and, uh, I had a few really great people in my life that had been directing me to read the Bible and who,

Sevan Matossian (17:12):

Who, who,

Scott Panchik (17:13):

Uh, had a, a guy from, uh, my gym. He actually, well actually it’s a pretty

Sevan Matossian (17:19):


Scott Panchik (17:20):

I’m story. I, I’ll give you the, I’ll give you the cliff notes, uh, and try to keep it, keep it short. But, um, I had joined a Bible study group and it was like right around C and we’re on there and Nathan Brat, who was a old, uh, games athlete, was talking to me and we were just, you know, I got on and I’m just sitting there and listening. And, um, I grew up Catholic and uh, I, you know, I had Bibles in the house and I went to church on Sundays, but it was always kind of just to like, check a box and like you did, it was just what you did. And I felt like I was, you know, a good person and you know, better than that guy and that guy and that guy, but maybe not as good as that guy. And, you know, I felt like I was doing things.

Sevan Matossian (18:03):

You didn’t have as many notes in your Bible. You had one, but that guy had more notes, not a bible. So he was, was better than you.

Scott Panchik (18:09):

I did, I had a Bible and it was sitting on a shelf and it was brand new. Never really cracked open. Um, and I grew up, like I said, I had a lot of, uh, knowledge and understanding of like, who got it, who God was. I said, you know, my prayers. And I, like I said, I went to church, but I never really got into the Bible. And a lot of it was because of how intimidating it was. And the,

Sevan Matossian (18:32):

The prince’s too small. Dude, the prince’s too small. <laugh>, the Prince says, don’t read me. The prince says Don’t read me.

Scott Panchik (18:38):

And also, like, I also knew there was some like things in there that would make me be a little more responsible in this life, I think too. I think there was a little intimidation there in those ways. And, uh,

Sevan Matossian (18:50):

I doing this and, and the Bible’s gonna tell me not to.

Scott Panchik (18:53):

I wanted my God to be like me, you know? Mm. And that’s, that’s not what it’s about. Uh, but I was intimidated to, to open it for whatever reason. And it, it took a long time. You know, I went to college and, you know, I went in and dropped into a couple of Fellowship of Christian athletes and I always felt like God kind of like was protecting me and like looking after me and you know, just keeping me out of trouble. But I felt like it took this tragic event in my life to redirect me into deepening that relationship to really understand who God, who God is and, and how he provides for me every day. Um, so during c we’re on a Bible study, you know, virtual Zoom call, and I’m sitting there listening and Nathan is talking, and he asked me, he’s like, do you have a Bible? I was like, yeah, it’s somewhere here in my house. Or, you know, honestly, I don’t even know. I think my parents might still have the Bible I got when I was in cc, it’s called ccd. It was like our catechism class. Um, and he sent me one. So he sent it to me. I opened it up, small print, <laugh>, super overwhelming. And I’m like, I’m not, I’m not ready for this. And at the same

Sevan Matossian (20:12):

Time, chapter 7,000, oh,

Scott Panchik (20:15):

<laugh>. But at the, at the same time, I was, uh, creating this 400 meter loop on our property because the gym was shut down. And I was like, I wanna be able to run from my home gym. And I just felt like it was like really, really peaceful. And it was probably one of the first projects and things that I’d done where I just felt like I, I didn’t have music. It was just quiet time. So while this was all happening, I felt like I was just asking a lot of questions. And this is all, you know, when we, right after we lost our, our first child, and you know, the day after I, I got this bible from Nathan Brat and I’m walking, creating this loop in our woods saying like, I wouldn’t understand it. I don’t know where to start. A guy from my gym, a kid you not comes in and he says, I have something for you. And this is a guy that I haven’t really talked to a whole lot. And it was really strange.

Sevan Matossian (21:08):

He’s not in your, he wasn’t in your Bible study class.

Scott Panchik (21:10):

He was not in my bible study. Nathan, he’s just a member in my gym. And he goes, I have something for you. And I was like, oh, cool. Like, what is it? And he like goes out to his car, he comes back in and he hands me a study bible. And I’m like, oh, wow, like two bibles in two days.

Mattew Souza (21:29):

<laugh> <laugh>.

Scott Panchik (21:32):

I’m not going a third day. It was like, I might not make it the three days. I’m gonna open this thing. And he goes, I want you to have this, something on my heart. Told me I needed to give this to you. And it, and I opened it and it was really big, like big text. And it had study notes at the bottom. And I was just like, oh, wow. And he’s like explaining it to me. He told me where to start. And then he’s like, and he’s like, and I wanna pray for you. I’m like, okay, thanks. And I thought he was gonna leave and like pray for me later at home. Like, like, oh yeah, I’m gonna pray for you. He like, put his hand on me and prayed right in that moment and like this, like, I just got so emotional and my body started shaking.


And it was just like, I, I truly, truly believe that like the, like the Holy Spirit, like he put it like on my heart. And like from that moment on, I was like, I have a, like a responsibility to dig into this. And you know, it wasn’t much longer where we got pregnant again with my daughter Kinsley. And that just pushed me even more towards it because I was like, wow, like things are coming together. I want to be able to teach her all the things that in are in here. I know she’s going to have questions and I don’t wanna rely on someone else to teach me those things. And I think a lot of the times we rely on other people to teach us what we should be trying to learn on our, on our own. And the Bible’s gonna speak to you differently than it’s gonna speak to me and it’s going to meet us where we’re at. And, um, I just, I truly believe something happened that day that really just changed my heart and it, it just so happened, it happened, you know, kind of leading into that last season of my career. Um, you know, my knee, my knee ends up not making it through the year, probably the fittest that I’ve ever been in my entire life.

Sevan Matossian (23:26):

What year, Scott? This is 2021?

Scott Panchik (23:29):

Uh, no, this would’ve, this would’ve been 2020. So the year 2020. Okay. I went to the games and,

Sevan Matossian (23:35):

Um, when you were running and the crowd started running with you.

Scott Panchik (23:38):

Yeah. So that all

Sevan Matossian (23:40):

At the capital event, Scott did that shit first

Mattew Souza (23:43):


Scott Panchik (23:45):

But a lot of stuff happened that year too. And I’m just like, man, like what is, like, what’s God trying to tell me? And I think a lot of the times we, we look into our life and we’re like, man, why is God like, why, why is God doing this? Like, why, like, this is what I wanted and this is what I got. And sometimes I, I believe that he’s doing it for us and it, and it could be for us to redirect in our life. It could be for us to dig more into the relationship we have with him so that there is more substance there and there is something to grow and learn and, and develop. And it’s, it’s pushed me in a direction to be a better person. It’s got me reading more. Um, and it also has me like being more patient and kind and, and loving and you know, at times, like whatever you’re putting into you is gonna spill out at some point when life gets hard. And if you’re not putting good things into your, into your heart, um, when things get hard, it’s, it, it doesn’t get any better and life’s gonna be hard. And that’s what I’ve been leaning into over the last few years. And I’ve felt more joyful than ever before in my life. And it’s been through some, some pretty difficult times, which, you know, pretty incredible

Sevan Matossian (25:07):

Of when I think of us as human beings. One of the ways I think of us, one of the pictures that I see in my head is I see us see us as like radios. You know, the old radios where you, you tune in the radio station.

Scott Panchik (25:19):


Sevan Matossian (25:20):

And then you turn to the frequency and you turn that knob and you get it just so it’s crystal clear. And I think of it as, as like that as human beings, that the way we treat our body and what we put into our mind adjusts our, and who we hang out with adjusts our frequency to, to be more receptive to, to wherever these signals are coming. I picture us as just all human beings, as kind of like antennas walking around on planet earth, getting our directive from whatever frequency we’re tuned into. And, and when I hear your story, I think of it like that. Like you read the Bible and it was just, it was adjusting your frequency to that message to, to to, what did you call it? The, the spirit, the Holy Ghost. What did you call it?

Scott Panchik (26:00):

Holy, holy Spirit. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (26:01):

Holy Spirit. Who, who was the, is this guy still at your gym? The guy who gave you that?

Scott Panchik (26:06):

That’s, Hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah, he’s at the gym. Um, another then I, you know, then it got me exploring a church. I wanted to find a church and,

Sevan Matossian (26:14):

Uh, other people on the frequency.

Scott Panchik (26:17):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. I wanted, well I wanted to just continue to dig into that because like I said, at some point my daughter’s going to have questions. And if I am not there to answer those questions, who is

Sevan Matossian (26:31):


Scott Panchik (26:31):

And I want to be, I want to control that narrative. That’s my job. That’s my role and responsibility as a father, and I wanna do that to the best of my ability. And, and I, part of that is me continuing to grow that relationship myself. So I ended up getting, uh, baptized again at the, at, you know, the church that I’m a part of now. Uh, I was baptized as a child, so like infant baptism is a part of Catholicism. Uh, but I wanted to declare, um, that relationship as an adult. And I ended up getting baptized again with my wife. And now we’re part of a, a church. Um, and one of our, one of our studies is at the gym that we do. It’s a small group and we do like a 45 minute CrossFit workout. And then we go into like a 45 minute study on, um, a specific chapter in the Bible where we just kind of hang out and talk. And, um, we have people from all walks of life coming in and you don’t have to be a, a Christian. Uh, my dad actually comes, which is amazing. Uh, he’s Catholic. And we just, we dig into that thing together as a, as a group.

Sevan Matossian (27:44):

My, my, it’s interesting. I, I’ve been acutely aware since I’ve been, uh, very young. Like at five years old I had this kindergarten teacher who I had a crush on, but I didn’t, I didn’t know it was a crush at the time. I just knew I really liked her and I really liked her. And I see my boys now having feelings towards girls and then processing those feelings cuz they don’t know anything, but they obviously feel something, uh, physical. Yeah. Right. They like, it’s not sexual, but they feel, I, I just remember those feelings. They’re not sexual, but you, you know, okay, that’s a girl and there’s, and there’s something stirring in you. But the other thing that they’re also quite, quite curious about is where they came from and what happens when they die. So these are probably two of their, and I want, those are kind of things that kind of propel man through his life running from those two things, right?


Dealing with those sensations that maybe drive you, um, to, to want to be with a girl. And then the other is this deep, um, quest for the curiosity of where do we go when we die and where did we come from before we were born? You know, sort, sort of thinking and time. And yet we kind of push all that shit away. We don’t address those sensations. We end up trying to make money to get a girl, or we don’t address those thoughts of where we go when we die. We run from them. You know? Yeah.

Scott Panchik (29:00):

Well, who, who’s gonna teach them that? If you don’t, if you don’t teach that to them in another year or so, one of their friends is gonna teach them that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Like, I, I still remember, um, like my teenage years, like one of my friends is like, Hey man, like my dad’s got these videos and he’s like trying to show me porn.

Sevan Matossian (29:20):


Scott Panchik (29:21):

Yeah. And like, I, I had no idea what that was and I was like, okay, you know,

Sevan Matossian (29:27):

Could you imagine being a kid now? Dude, I heard the average age that a kid

Scott Panchik (29:31):

Sees can go on your phone and you can, in a matter of seconds, you can be in a really, really dark and scary place. And

Sevan Matossian (29:40):

That changes your perception of everything. I’m, I’m not even condemning porn. I’m just saying like, why would you want that to be your first impression of what the union of a man and a woman is? It’s nuts. That’ll that’ll mess you up. Mess you up. It’ll mess you up. It’ll messed up millions. I bet. Because yeah.

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