#651 – Rogue Invitational Programming w/ J.R. Howell and Taylor Self

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. We’re live. You almost got me. Almost Got you. <laugh>. Uh, yes. The famous Heidi Crume is in the house. Sev I putting in the work this weekend. Loving it. Thank you. Uh, Aaron? Tell uh, Matt I said hi. Uh, Teddy? No. Oh, clapping. Yeah. Okay. That’s good. Uh, Teddy Williams. Uh, Bruce things are good. Big week. Uh, yeah. Heidi, you should be on the show. Show. Yes. We need to hear she. Does you ever schedule for 2023? Uh, making and packing shirts. Bruce, Bruce, Bruce Wayne. This is my entertainment. Oh, good. I’m glad we can keep you busy. Mlk. Martin Luther King. 52 40 Trina. I tell everyone I know. Heidi. Me too. Uh, Sean says hello, Ro Nona, uh, was there another show after Chris this morning, which was superb? Thank you. Uh, um, we had to reschedule several times with Taylor. He made it.


Uh, Your mic’s not working. We had to schedule with Ricky a few times, uh, because Oh no. Susan, you can stay on a little bit. Stay on, stay on a little bit till we get the show rolling here, please. I’m back. Anyone know why they’re closing? Event? One, two, uh, media. Can we even watch? Um, we spoke to the head of media there, who’s, uh, darling, uh, amazing lady. And she told us that there would be more information tomorrow. There will be no outside media allowed there, I’m guessing. Cuz it’s at Mr. And Mrs. Henig’s Ranch. That’s my guess. It

Taylor Self (01:39):

Definitely doesn’t involve nudity. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (01:41):

Rock. I don’t wanna rule that out. Katie and Biller Wild. I tried to be like seven on a snatch, a hundred pound dumbbell, but I got scared after the 90. I understand. Hey, I’m, I, I only own up to a 60. I’m, I’m not there yet. So, um, but I have in my day snatched to oh, 100 many 80

Taylor Self (01:57):

Bullshit. Is there video of that?

Sevan Matossian (01:59):

No. Really? So that’s good. I need to do that again. You that would, that would impress you. I would love to impress you.

Taylor Self (02:05):

Yeah. If you snatched the 100 pound dumbbell. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

Yeah. Okay. There we go. Let the sausage feast begin. Oh, feast. I like that. That’s way better than fast. That, that’s my imagination.

Taylor Self (02:15):

I’m, I actually just had some hot Italian sausage.

Sevan Matossian (02:19):

Yum. Um, speaking of,

Taylor Self (02:21):

Uh, sausage,

Sevan Matossian (02:23):

A very senior person, one of the wisest in analytics who actually has been on this show in the CrossFit space. Sent me a text today, a little while ago, a few minutes ago, and he said, I like assholes. Douche bags are assholes without morals. You’re an asshole. Well, well thank you. And I, I su was on the third. I was like, Wow. I, it called him up. I’m like, That could be one of the nicest compliments I’ve ever gotten.

Taylor Self (03:02):


Sevan Matossian (03:04):

Uh, I’d love to, I’d love to, uh, announce. I’d love to do that. Uh, Vindicate is giving a free L one away with the purchase of, uh, one of the shirts on their website. Now is the time to go purchase? I don’t think it, I is it just any shirt you can buy? You buy, you get entered? Or does it have to be the one with the Greg Glassman quote

Taylor Self (03:22):

Jr. What’s that in your window?

Sevan Matossian (03:25):

<laugh>. Oh, someone, someone just called, I answered, someone was calling from the UK and I answered,

JR Howell (03:31):

Oh shit. What

Sevan Matossian (03:32):


JR Howell (03:32):

So I move out of the room that has blinds and now everyone gives me

Taylor Self (03:37):


JR Howell (03:39):

Big one. Big one. Big one. Uh,

Sevan Matossian (03:41):

Big one. That’s, that’s the question. How <laugh> how far? Uh, Geo Brain. Really? Wow. We have a Brian friend and a GE Brain. How far is hens from Round Rock?

Taylor Self (03:52):

They have a ranch in Texas.

Sevan Matossian (03:54):

A nice one. He’s posted tons of photos of it.

Taylor Self (03:58):

Hold on. I’m pull think that, uh,

JR Howell (04:01):

So what I was told is that tomorrow morning they’re traveling.

Sevan Matossian (04:07):

Oh. Can you hold that thought for j a minute? Sure. Sorry. I, I, sorry. I hate to interrupt you cuz who knows when you’re gonna start talking again? Um, uh, can we go to the Rich Phoning podcast that, um, JR. And I did the other day? And, and can you pull up the comments and, and put them in the order of most frequent? I have a favor to ask you guys who are watching the show right now. There was a comment made on that. Not a favor, because I’m not gonna repay it. You have to repay a favor.

Taylor Self (04:41):


Sevan Matossian (04:42):

Oh. So this isn’t a favor just asking you to do something. Um, if, if you organize these in the order most recent, you will see,

Taylor Self (04:51):

Uh, newest. Okay, there we go.

Sevan Matossian (04:54):

Um, you will see that there’s James Hill from James Hill three hours ago. Constructive criticism. Don’t have nobody lurkers on your podcast that go on two minute rants and talk over your guests. I didn’t click on the video to hear their takes. I clicked to hear from the guest and from you.

Taylor Self (05:15):

Mm. Fucking lurkers. Hey, where’s Ben Smith <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (05:18):

So can, can you hit the reply button JR. That’s about you, by the way.

JR Howell (05:24):

Yeah. Yeah. I gathered that. Thank you. Okay,

Taylor Self (05:26):


Sevan Matossian (05:26):

Fucking worker. I responded. That’s my homosexual autistic African American Jewish cousin, cousin that I invite on the show for DEI points. You will probably burn in hell. Peace and love. If you guys could go on there and explain to James Hill the JR. Howell has no peer in the space. None. Nobody. And if he does, they have not shown their head. It, it, that guy should be embarrassed.

Taylor Self (05:56):

Oh, he is talking about the Danielle Brandon episode. I only thought about watching it because JR was on it.

Sevan Matossian (06:03):

No, no. Not the Danielle Brandon episode. He’s talking about the, the show with Rich phoning. Uh, uh, JR asked a fucking great question. The comments light up fucking basically saying this show’s nothing without JR. And I can totally take that. I agree. JR fucking made that show. Um, uh, it was Rich Froning then JR. And I was a distant fucking third. It

JR Howell (06:22):

Was, it was Rich’s masculinity than Rich than you then me.

Sevan Matossian (06:25):

Thank you. <laugh>. No, then you, then me. Uh, I, I would love to see you guys help James Hill understand the intelligence that JR has in his contribution to this show. And then at the end of the show, I’d like to read some of your comments to see how well you guys did at, um, helping this guy, uh, understand who JR is. Yeah, JR is the Gand off of CrossFit. Thank you. Teddy

Taylor Self (06:51):

Gand off the white too.

Sevan Matossian (06:53):

<laugh>. I dunno what

JR Howell (06:53):

That means, but that’s what I’m talking about.

Taylor Self (06:55):

You don’t know what that means. All right. Well that probably no one else does. And now I just look like a fucking racist dude.

Sevan Matossian (07:01):

Uh, yes. That’s what I thought. All those trigger words Chevon’s account will get banned for that single comment. Uh, JR reading the Chevon live chat with his deep voices the way the Chevon breaks into only fans. Thank you. Yes. Has this guy even seen jr’s shoulders? What a dumb fuck. Heidi Cru. Look at Heidi. Look at Heidi. She can’t even write. Put the you in in

Taylor Self (07:24):

CK <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (07:25):

Your So Square. You’re such a Madison mom.

Taylor Self (07:27):

Someone, someone posted a, someone posted an Instagram caption the other day, someone well known, and they, it was like F cck I n g. And I was like, what <laugh> fucking dude.

Sevan Matossian (07:42):

Well, maybe, maybe their thumb slipped or maybe that’s just like, Oh no, they’re not millennial talk. It

Taylor Self (07:47):

Was bullshit. Yeah. Whatever.

Sevan Matossian (07:50):

Anyway, it would, I thought it would be fun if you guys went over there and helped James Hill understand, uh, that we’re lucky when we get JR Jr’s a busy man running. Uh, I, I invite him on the show often. He’s a busy man. He prioritizes his gym and his kids always, He has no problem doing that to me. If you’re on the phone with JR and you’re in the middle of a conversation and one of his kids wakes up, he’s up, gotta go by kids. And yet when he is on the show, he gives us a hundred percent. And I just thought, Wow, this could be a really fun bit to have you guys go over there and explain to him. That guy obviously didn’t listen to a word JR. Says, said Taylor. Good to see you, buddy. I was excited to

Taylor Self (08:28):

See you, man. I miss you guys. I’m really jazzed up for this, uh, weekend and

Sevan Matossian (08:32):

The, it’s gonna be an incredible four days. Okay. Uh, back to, um, uh, Mr. Um, uh, uh, what’s your name? JR. How Mr. Howell from Crash Crucible Crash CrossFit, uh, event number one. We were discussing, is it gonna be at his ranch and you started in on something? No. Please tell me you didn’t forget.

JR Howell (08:51):

No, I didn’t forget. Okay,

Sevan Matossian (08:52):

Here we

JR Howell (08:53):

Go. Yeah, I think they had a brief tonight. They were told that they needed to be there pretty early tomorrow morning and that their trek on a bus would be anywhere from one to two hours. And the great Brian friend sent me a map of what is about an hour away.

Sevan Matossian (09:08):


JR Howell (09:09):

Which is pretty cool.

Sevan Matossian (09:10):

Thank you. Brian. If

JR Howell (09:11):

They go there and might explain why media and spectators are not allowed.

Sevan Matossian (09:14):

Mm. Okay. Can we pull up, can we pull up the map and, and you point

JR Howell (09:18):

Taylor’s about to, Taylor’s about to get geeked.

Sevan Matossian (09:22):

What? Because

Taylor Self (09:24):

Well, I just sent, I mean, I, I mean if that’s, I wouldn’t, I, I don’t know. I feel like if that, I feel like if that’s actually their ranch, don’t pull up the fucking Google Maps bro.

JR Howell (09:34):

Where they No, not at on, Not that it’s their ranch. Just that if they’re, if they’re going to do some stuff there along endurance, running with, with or without weight, with obstacles and stuff mixed in, I think that’d be awesome. I wish we would watch it really

Taylor Self (09:50):


Sevan Matossian (09:50):

Really cool. Um, it, it, I I suspect it’s a large ranch. We talked about it before. Bill does a lot of running there himself. I know guests who’ve been there, who’ve done the trail that Bill runs and Bill’s posted tons of pictures of the, uh, gym there, of the kitchen. It’s, it, it looks like it’s a professional kitchen there. It’s, it’s made to cook for shitloads of people.

Taylor Self (10:11):

There are some ranches in Texas that are fucking unreal. Huge. Like, like millions of acres. Anyways,

Sevan Matossian (10:20):

Sorry, Sevan, did you read my email with Google Docs instructions? Uh, no.

Taylor Self (10:25):


Sevan Matossian (10:26):

But not, uh, Mike the sauce. It’s not because I don’t wanna, I just haven’t seen it yet. I, my emails, um, I haven’t, I haven’t looked today. We’ve

Taylor Self (10:34):

Tried that

Sevan Matossian (10:35):

Google Doc <laugh> and I will, but I will give it a try because you put in the effort. Um, what does this mean? Does self have his invi?

Taylor Self (10:47):

My inva?

Sevan Matossian (10:49):

What is that? I

Taylor Self (10:50):

Dunno. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (10:53):

Oh, what else can you tell his Jr So, so one to two hour away bus ride, I guess that means it’s one hour with no traffic, Two hour with traffic. Do we know exactly what time they’re meeting and where they’re meeting?

JR Howell (11:04):

I think they’re leaving at about 7:00 AM

Sevan Matossian (11:07):

Are they, are all the athletes at the same hotel?

JR Howell (11:09):

No clue.

Sevan Matossian (11:11):

I did see a video of Annie, um, prepping and she was, uh, it was like a 42nd video of RO on the Rogue Invitational YouTube, I think. And she was swinging a bat that said Rogue on it and she was dressed like a baseball player. So I’m guessing that might be the theme this year.

JR Howell (11:29):

I think it only means one thing and that’s the either event. Six or 10 is the softball toss.

Taylor Self (11:33):

<laugh> ball with a bat. I’m

JR Howell (11:38):

Gonna fucking,

Sevan Matossian (11:39):

Okay. He’s joking

Taylor Self (11:40):

For sure. Dude.

JR Howell (11:41):

They’re gonna hit a ball off a T for distance.

Taylor Self (11:44):

That’d be hilarious. We would see some funny shit.

Sevan Matossian (11:48):

Both right and left-handed.

Taylor Self (11:50):

No, you would see terrible. Oh, it would be fucking so bad.

Sevan Matossian (11:54):

Okay. Uh, so can we click on that picture By the way, this show, we are gonna get into looking at the exact, uh, events.

Taylor Self (12:01):

That’s pretty

Sevan Matossian (12:02):

Cool. And discuss them. Uh, we’ll be talking about the programming. Maybe Jason Hopper picked the wrong sport. He took the home run record on day one, Athlete check in. Wow. He’s

Taylor Self (12:11):

Got a pretty crappy swing too. I’m surprised.

Sevan Matossian (12:13):

God, he makes that bat look little. That’s a crappy swing. He’s

Taylor Self (12:18):

Got too much weight in his front foot. He doesn’t sit back enough. Let’s have Rich on talk about his swing.

Sevan Matossian (12:25):

Oh, that way he lifted up his front foot there, there has a good transfer back to back to front. I

Taylor Self (12:29):

Don’t know. He watches some baseball. He might be all right.

Sevan Matossian (12:35):

Ah, I see it. Okay. Uh, look, look, Can I see that picture of the crowd in the room? Uh, is is that, is that at their briefing? You think JR. Tonight individuals were briefed about event one taking place tomorrow morning. They were told to report for the offsite event at 6:45 AM and to bring trail shoes. Once they arrive, they’ll receive workout details. Event one will be close to spectators and to media. The seven on podcast commented. Let’s go. Olivia Kerstetter. I concur.

Taylor Self (13:05):

Can we pull the picture of that map, that Google map that I sent?

Sevan Matossian (13:10):

Do you even know what he’s talking abouts? Oh, okay. Uh, y nevermind. They won’t, they won’t let, uh, Bruce Wayne says, that sucks. I they’ll do a good job at getting information to us. They’re go, they’re gonna do a good job. Some something will be there. We’ll get something. Maybe it’ll be from Rogue’s, uh, Instagram. If you’re not, uh, you know, following Rogue and Rogue. I think Rogue Invitational has their own Instagram account and uh, I’m sure, I’m sure we’ll be getting something. They don’t, they don’t, they don’t go light on the media. Bill and Katie aren’t gonna put this event on and just let it be, um, not seen. Or maybe it’ll be something that comes out in post. No, no. We’ll get, we’ll get some insights there. I wonder, I wonder if in the briefing they’re told that they can’t stream from there.

Taylor Self (13:57):

The athletes.

Sevan Matossian (13:58):

Yeah. I wonder what, what type of social media roles, um, rules that they have.

Taylor Self (14:04):

Don’t bring your phones.

Sevan Matossian (14:07):

Uh, Cody Wilson. Uh, I don’t know where else he saw the other athletes swinging, but Hopper Swing was Miles better than the other athletes. I’d like to see Danielle, Brandon swing it.

Taylor Self (14:17):

I I believe that it’s, so I bet you take the 40 of the CrossFit Games athletes and have ’em participate in a bald sport or a field sport and it would be like the softball toss. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (14:30):

Sevan. How are you covering the Rogue event? The same way we cover everything. We wing it, but, um, the, uh, JR and Taylor will be on site, so will Brian friend myself and Hiller and uh, will be, uh, and John Young will also be on site, uh, in the spectator section. Um, and we will be, uh, myself and Hiller and uh, maybe Tyler Watkins will be running the desk here. And Matt Suza, uh, will be talking before every event and after every event. Okay. So what are we looking at? What’s that Red dot Jr?

JR Howell (15:07):

That’s a good question. Cause that’s not the picture that I sent. Ah,

Sevan Matossian (15:10):


Taylor Self (15:11):

Del Diamond.

Sevan Matossian (15:12):

Ah, is that, is that the venue?

Taylor Self (15:14):

That’s the venue. And then if you zoom out, zoom out Susan, and then scroll up just past this body of water up to the north. Keep going, keep going. Yep. Keep going. Uh, do you see something? You see any Fort Hood? No. You gotta probably zoom out even more. Look up Fort Hood from Dell Diamond. That’s what I would Google search.

Sevan Matossian (15:39):

Why do we think Fort Hood?

JR Howell (15:43):

Because it’s within an hour from the venue.

Sevan Matossian (15:47):

Is that where his could

JR Howell (15:48):

Be? Could be like a Camp Pendleton type? No, no, no. Just like a, like a, like a place for them to do some kind of military. Um, that’s

Taylor Self (15:54):

The screenshot, That’s the shot Brian sent you. The the pin is in Fort Hood.

Sevan Matossian (16:05):

Um, su just dropped a B of sweat. Strictly

JR Howell (16:07):

Speculation like that, that just could be where they’re going. But also too, you probably have to drive an hour or two just to get an elevation change.

Sevan Matossian (16:15):


Taylor Self (16:15):

Hood is

Sevan Matossian (16:16):

<laugh>. Well, perfect. A

Taylor Self (16:18):

Lot of military. So many are. That’s funny.

Sevan Matossian (16:21):

Uh, goodnight guys. I’ll definitely go in this time. Uh, catch you in the chat tomorrow. Thanks. Thanks, John. Y John? Uh, Fort Hood’s an Army base. Awesome. Thank you. Will uh, is it an active army base? It’s, there’s dudes still there. Okay. That means it has to be some sort of ruck from Will Plumber. Uh, what, what do you think Jr What, what’s your guess?

JR Howell (16:44):

I I would think just probably just a long mono structural

Taylor Self (16:49):

Ruck. A long cook I would say

Sevan Matossian (16:53):

With, uh, with weight with a pack.

JR Howell (16:57):


Taylor Self (16:58):

I don’t know. I mean, I feel like they, they’ve done a ruck several times. Why? I mean, they may, I think that’s a safe prediction, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did it without that. Also

JR Howell (17:09):

A long trail

Taylor Self (17:09):

Run. Yeah. And I also wouldn’t be surprised if they did go to Fort Hood and they had a long run with some obstacle in it. That would be really cool.

Sevan Matossian (17:17):

I’m gonna type in here. Uh, Fort Hood Texas Obstacle.

Taylor Self (17:23):

Yeah, let’s stretch this out.

Sevan Matossian (17:25):

That whatever they, Oh, that’s,

Taylor Self (17:27):

Oh, remember when they had the, uh, fucking the ski and uh, shooting event? The Ski by Athlon in 20? Was that 2018?

Sevan Matossian (17:40):


Taylor Self (17:41):

It was in, it was in person. Annie Thor’s daughter did really well for the women. I remember that. I can’t remember much other than that. I think Matt maybe won that event for the men. It must have been 2018. The first Rogue Invitational. They shot the air guns. Or 20 Yeah, I believe it was air guns. There’s no way they let these fucking idiots shoot <laugh>.

JR Howell (18:03):

<laugh>. There’s

Taylor Self (18:04):

No way, dude. That’d be awesome. But no too much like, oh my God.

Sevan Matossian (18:10):

Oh, that confidence course looks cool. That thing, that ladder that goes up and then down, right?

Taylor Self (18:15):

Yeah, man, Texas, I cannot wait.

Sevan Matossian (18:18):

Um, if it’s a run, um, is that just in the bag for, uh, Laura Hvat? It’s a done deal.

JR Howell (18:27):

I think Gabby would probably be the favorite on that.

Sevan Matossian (18:30):

No kidding. What has she done that makes you say that?

JR Howell (18:35):

Do you know who won the capital at the games this year?

Sevan Matossian (18:38):

Uh, Hailey Adams?

Taylor Self (18:40):


Sevan Matossian (18:41):

I know she got stuck on the steps. Um, no. Was it Gabby Manawa? Yep. Yeah. Uh, total totally different event. And

JR Howell (18:49):

With Hailey and Tia not in the field. And, uh, Christie Ramo and anyone else? A perennial great runner like Sam Briggs. There are none of those. So I, I think someone like Gabby would be.

Sevan Matossian (19:00):

But that event wasn’t one on the run, was it?

Taylor Self (19:03):

No, I don’t think so. I mean it was a long

JR Howell (19:06):

No, but it was, it was, it was a big chunk of running.

Sevan Matossian (19:09):

Maybe if it wasn’t May, maybe it’s better to say it. It wasn’t lost on the run. Maybe that’s a better way to say it.

Taylor Self (19:18):

Oh, video of her running with the sandbag. Yeah, she’s winning this event.

Sevan Matossian (19:21):

<laugh>. Uh, it really one When is, isn’t that one of Laura’s, What about the other run events? What about the event that they had in the stadium that year where you had to do the snatches or the cleans? They did the cleans and then you had to run, uh, in Madison, Not in the stadium, but there was at, at one of the venues there. Remember they ran outside? They changed the length of the run.

JR Howell (19:45):

Yeah, that was in 2021. They ended up

Sevan Matossian (19:47):

In. Who won that between Laura and Gabby?

JR Howell (19:51):

Oh, that’s a good question because that was more about could you hit the load once you got to the weight

Sevan Matossian (19:57):

And just a straight run. And then, and then what about that event? Wasn’t there an event where they had to do like 50 of something and then run and then do toes to bar and then cross the finish line

JR Howell (20:09):

To to bar mile and a half run to, to bar a mile and a half run.

Sevan Matossian (20:13):

Oh, okay. Okay. And I think it was, uh, Emily Roth who won that event

JR Howell (20:17):

And she’s also not at Rogue.

Sevan Matossian (20:19):

And, and who took second between Gabby and Laura? We don’t know.

Taylor Self (20:26):

This is a Brian friend question. Can we pull up, I wanna, let’s pull up the athlete field and then the workouts. We

JR Howell (20:31):

Gotta, if John, if John’s listening, he’ll probably know John Young, the bat who won between the two of them? Yeah.

Taylor Self (20:37):

John Young. Who’s poster do you have in your wall? Laurel Horvath or Gabby Alah.

Sevan Matossian (20:43):

And uh, and who do you have in second in this event? Uh, j

JR Howell (20:47):


Sevan Matossian (20:53):

Daniel. Brandon’s got some wheels. You like her for shorter distances?

JR Howell (21:00):

Yeah, I like her for, for short runs. I mean, she did really good the back mile. There was a lot going on in that workout. This is a, this is just, if this is just a trail run, then you kind of have to go with the people who are just the mo most aerobic.

Sevan Matossian (21:12):

Oh then let me throw this out there. Uh uh how about, uh, Ellie Turner?

Taylor Self (21:16):


Sevan Matossian (21:17):

But she can run, Don’t, don’t go by the way that she can run.

Taylor Self (21:23):

I guess we’ll find out. I think probably Gabby McGall and Laura and one and two in either order. And I think more so they are both really good aerobically, but I think they’re also very mentally tough. And to a point when you get in a long run like that, it’s very mental. Especially with a rock, especially on a trail.

Sevan Matossian (21:40):

Can we see the list of the female athletes? Matt?

Taylor Self (21:43):

I think Histor historically. Ellie Turner, Turners not the runner that Gabby and Laura is or are

Sevan Matossian (21:50):

I I I was just crazy impressed by a running at the games and at and at the, and at the semifinals.

JR Howell (21:56):

So on event 10, in 2021, Gabby was seventh and Laura was

Sevan Matossian (22:03):

15. 15. Oh. Oh, no shit. Okay. All

JR Howell (22:07):

Right. The run toaster bar

Sevan Matossian (22:09):

Fair. Okay.

Taylor Self (22:11):

I don’t think there, this guy asked what if it’s not a trail run? What if it’s mountain biking? I highly doubt they’re gonna bike twice. I doubt they’re gonna echo bike and then ride a mountain bike. I don’t think, I also don’t think

Sevan Matossian (22:23):

That’s brilliant though, Taylor, because, um, they’ve built a bike manufacturing plant in the United States, I think. Wow. I think Rogue is, is making bikes in the United States. They might be one of the only people.

Taylor Self (22:35):

Well, that’d be really cool if they, I don’t think it would be a single modality bike. I think they’d run and bike in something else.

JR Howell (22:41):


Sevan Matossian (22:42):

Um, what about Curse Stutterer, By the way, we won’t be predicting the other events, just event one and then we’ll be actually talking about the programming for the rest of the show. Um, but what about Emma Lawson and Olivia Krs Stutterer?

Taylor Self (22:54):

I don’t think either of them. I don’t know enough about Lawson’s running. I don’t think her stutter is at the top of the pack running wise. She’s amazing across that and really strong. But

Sevan Matossian (23:08):

Who’s gonna take last?

Taylor Self (23:10):

I think ar alone would surprise everyone on the run.

JR Howell (23:12):

Yeah, she’s solid. Pretty much all around. I think she’ll do well. And I think Annie is still someone that can, we’ll talk about it, but finish Top 10 on everything. I mean, I don’t think that she’s gonna do poorly on anything.

Taylor Self (23:21):

Scroll down a little, uh, on the women’s field and just trying to see all the women.

Sevan Matossian (23:28):

I don’t know anything about Bailey. Rogers?

Taylor Self (23:30):

Yeah. Um, I don’t know if it’s a rock. I don’t think a Amanda Barnhardt does poorly.

JR Howell (23:40):

Emma Lawson was 11th on the capital and that’s really the only thing from the games this past year with a longer run to.

Taylor Self (23:48):

Did she compete at the West Coast Classic last year

JR Howell (23:51):

In the Lawson? No.

Taylor Self (23:52):

Yeah, the first year, no. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (23:55):

All right. Uh, who do you got, Taylor? Who do you got winning this? Are you going with Gabby

Taylor Self (23:59):

Winning this theoretical event that we just came up with?

Sevan Matossian (24:02):

Yep. Yep. Just running event. Just rock run. Who’d he say? Gabby. Gabby. Okay. I’m going with Laura.

Taylor Self (24:13):


JR Howell (24:13):

Choice if you, and if you, if you go to Bar Bend and pull up that

Taylor Self (24:16):

Article. I like Scott, this does really well too, but

JR Howell (24:18):

I’ll show. Yeah, that’s a good, that’s a good call too. Pull up that article Brian wrote today. It’s got some, um, maybe people to watch out for Dark horses, stuff like that. Short explanations on it

Sevan Matossian (24:29):

For, for event one for

JR Howell (24:31):

All of them.

Sevan Matossian (24:32):

Oh, okay. But we’ll just look at event one. Yeah. And then we’ll, and then we’ll get into the programming. Uh, Matt, um, will you pull up the men? If, if anyone wants to dig into this deeper, the article is on our bend barend.com. Uh, Brian Friend wrote it today, and I think he does, gives predictions for all of the events based on what, um, he knows. Okay, let’s say it’s a rock run. Let’s say it’s at Fort Hood. Who wins it here? Oh, we all know who wins this easily.

Taylor Self (25:06):


JR Howell (25:07):

I would say, I would say Roman.

Taylor Self (25:09):

Uh, I don’t know. Chandler Chandler’s, I think up there too. He

Sevan Matossian (25:13):

Won. Oh, come on guys. Come on guys.

JR Howell (25:17):

I mean, Ricky’s a great runner.

Sevan Matossian (25:19):


Taylor Self (25:20):

Running. Yeah, but here’s the deal. Running a long distance body weight and running a long distance with 50 pounds if they load you up on a ruck are two completely different things. So different. I don’t think Roman does poorly. He’s a big guy, but I think Chandler probably surprises a lot of people. They do so much fucking rocking in the Army.

Sevan Matossian (25:40):

I, I don’t, I don’t think Roman does badly either. I think it’s either Roman or Ricky. But I think Ricky’s got this.

Taylor Self (25:48):

I think Ricky’s a better runner without a doubt. I don’t know. I don’t know enough about either of ’em to call him on the R

Sevan Matossian (25:56):

What about Hopper? How’s Hopper do with a R? How’s he run it?

JR Howell (25:58):

He should, he should do well in this. If what we think is gonna come out comes out, and I guess we won’t really know until either Rogue makes an announcement or the workout’s over and then they let people post about it.

Sevan Matossian (26:10):

I think that soon as they tell the athletes, the second it comes out the dude’s mouth, there’s someone there who hits post and we find out. Uh, any clues on, on Bill’s? On Bill’s, uh, Instagram or on, uh, Rogue Invitational Instagram?

JR Howell (26:26):

No, I haven’t seen any on event one. Lazar is actually a really good runner too.

Sevan Matossian (26:30):

Oh, good point.

Taylor Self (26:32):

Nick. Matthew is not, from what I understand about him at the top of that pack and running, not calling him a bad runner.

Sevan Matossian (26:41):

Call him a bad runner. It’s fine. I’m looking through here. All right, let’s go take a peek, um, at the workouts and start digging in. Oh, they got tons of stuff on the Rogue Invitational Instagram. Tons of people with bats. Do they even have bats in, uh, from where? Ro where Roman’s from? Oh shit. Romans Lassoing. This is their, uh, this is their story.

Taylor Self (27:10):

Are those Yeti bags? Oh, those are Go rocks. They, yeah, that was all goruck. And so they were all getting outfitted with, uh, Go Rock bags there. So

Sevan Matossian (27:22):

Would, would they, would they ride? Would they ride with a R? No.

Taylor Self (27:28):

A a bicycle. Yeah. You for sure could. Would it make any sense? I mean, they wouldn’t just bike with a rock. Oh, hey.

Sevan Matossian (27:37):

Oh, cool. Affluent,

JR Howell (27:39):

Affluent people. Like you never had to ride their bike to school, did

Sevan Matossian (27:41):

They? I ride,

Taylor Self (27:43):

I rode, I rode my bike to pick up

Sevan Matossian (27:45):

Weed. Hey, hey. He wasn’t talking to We <laugh>.

Taylor Self (27:54):

I was a little wheeling pot buyer on my bicycle.

Sevan Matossian (27:58):

Delivered some weed on there. Oh, I know her. Yeah. Look at asking for the crowd to Nice, nice. Danielle,

Taylor Self (28:06):

What’s what crowd?

Sevan Matossian (28:08):

Oh, whatever crowd. Who cares? You know that people clapped.

Taylor Self (28:11):

<laugh>. People clapped. <laugh>. I’ll stop. Okay. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (28:19):

Whistled. They whistled. All right, let’s go. Uh, Susan, let’s go over and take a look at, um, the events and start digging in here. Uh, yes. Thank you. Jesse. Affluent is people is only something affluent people say. Taylor riding his bike with the sack. Yes. 60 sack the quarter sack. The eight sack.

Taylor Self (28:42):

Wow. Savan. Yes. What sack do you have in that, uh,

Sevan Matossian (28:46):

Office? Yes, I have the big sack. Is

Taylor Self (28:48):

That the, is that the Osac?

Sevan Matossian (28:49):

Oh yes, that’s the two. Oh Ssac. Wow.

Taylor Self (28:52):


Sevan Matossian (28:53):

Uh, on Friday morning Pacific Standard time. So, uh, 1:10 PM Central Standard time. Uh, they will begin, uh, an event called Ski Bar. 20 bar Muscle ups 40 Cow on the skier 80 G H D 40 Cow skier, 20 bar Muscle ups have added. Gentlemen, you like it is this typical rogue

Taylor Self (29:15):

Dope. Uh, I mean, Josh, do we know for certain that Josh Bridges program,

JR Howell (29:20):

Josh and Chris,

Taylor Self (29:22):

He, they nailed it.

Sevan Matossian (29:23):

And Katie,

Taylor Self (29:24):

They nailed it. And Katie also nailed it. How come? I love the workout. I mean, it’s gonna be an assault on the midline. I think the first set of Bar 20 bar muscle ups is gonna lure some athletes into taking a big chunk. And then the last 20 are gonna show you who’s gonna bar Muscle Ops

JR Howell (29:41):

And of the released workouts, just the ones that we know. So not counting event one. And then obviously six and 10. This is the only workout without a weightlifting element, which is pretty cool to look at if there’s gonna be another one. Or is this gonna be the only one that lacks some kind of object moving? Uh, uh, Taylor, what was the second.

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