#646 – Jared Graybeal & Arielle Loewen

Jared Graybeal (00:00):


Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. We’re live. Jared, dude,

Jared Graybeal (00:03):

What’s good?

Sevan Matossian (00:04):

We’re about to do it. Zillows games. It’s coming.

Jared Graybeal (00:07):

Yeah. Around two.

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Hey, it is the second year, huh?

Jared Graybeal (00:11):

Yeah. Yes it is.

Sevan Matossian (00:13):

You demand, Why are you doing, why you, um, you’ve had, uh, success in life doing business stuff. Uh, your manager to athletes. Um, you got a good life. Why are you hanging it out there stressing yourself, uh, doing competitions?

Jared Graybeal (00:33):

That’s funny. Um,

Sevan Matossian (00:35):

Cause no one, let’s face it, no one, no one is doing, uh, from the perspective of business, no one is doing successful events. No one, the they are, um, the hi Caleb. The amount of work it takes to do versus the return. Uh, I think the most successful events, the, the owners are making 52 cents an hour for their work.

Jared Graybeal (01:03):


Sevan Matossian (01:04):

I know. And, and the, and it’s just all criticism. No one’s like, Oh my God, that was the, for every you what it is. It, you need 30 positive things to make up one piece of negative self-talk. Yeah. It’s very, it’s like everyone, there’s people like me and Hiller making a fucking living now, mashing you guys, What are you doing?

Jared Graybeal (01:20):

Yeah. No, I, um, honestly hadn’t, didn’t think about that going into it. Uh, I didn’t

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

<laugh> Oh, good. I like that. I like that Forest Gump attitude. I don’t know where I’m running, but I, but I wanna run.

Jared Graybeal (01:33):

Yeah. Which is rare for me. Honestly. It’s super rare. I’m, I’m like really analytical and forward thinking and to a, to a fault. And so, um, I, I don’t know. I think about it often. I’m, but I’m really mission driven and I believe in what I’m trying to do,

Sevan Matossian (01:46):

Um, which is,

Jared Graybeal (01:48):

Well, to create more earning opportunities for athletes all over the world and entertainment for fans. But it’s not just for the sake of doing that, right? Like, um, I think about everything I wanna accomplish in life, and this is one of those legs that the table has to stand on. Um, and so like my, I think like, without sounding too, um, I don’t know, uh, too big picture, like my mission in life is to help, uh, reach people all over the world with the, the gift of fitness, right? So it’s like fitness changed my world. It’s what got me out of trouble and eventually led me to my relationship with, with Jesus and all that fun stuff. It was like the precursor for the life that I live now. I would say that the success I get to enjoy is because of me finding fitness and getting outta trouble.


And so, you know, it’s funny, like, um, technology has changed the world. A fitter world is a better world, right? And so, like 20 years ago, we didn’t all have iPhones, but so, you know, 20 years ago, like for example, you go in third world countries and there’s people living on clay that have cell phones. Um, why can’t those same people know about pushups and pullups and, and burpees and kettlebell swings and, you know what I mean? And so it’s like, um, I want to expand people’s ability to get fit affordably and attractively, right? And I, I think CrossFit has the largest global reach in the world when it comes to being able to do that. Um, and I think the sexiest way to reach people with CrossFit as competitions and athletes, they’re these celebrities in the space, right? It’s like, um, shampoo companies use, uh, Brad Pitt, like we to get people fit. We leverage our CrossFit celebrities. In order to do that, we need to have more competitions. And in order to do that, we need to have more off-season entertainment. And so this is like one of, you know, like you mentioned, I also manage athletes, and then I do business consulting. And so these are all like different things that contribute to my ultimate goal in life. Um, this just happens to be the hardest part of all those things, <laugh>. So

Sevan Matossian (03:52):

What what really stands out to me is what you’re saying is, is that fitness, um, was sort of your salvation. It led you even to a bigger picture, moral code to what you view as eternal life and, and your purpose here serving Jesus. And because of that, you’re, you’re doing it. You’re, you, you feel like you’ve taken on the role of like an apostle

Jared Graybeal (04:12):


Sevan Matossian (04:13):

But, but I mean, most of us, I mean, that’s what I’ve done too, through CrossFit, like it one a default. It’s all I know for the last 15 years. But two, I can rest my head, uh, at night knowing that I can tell my kids every day, except, uh, Dad, what did you do for a living? Oh, I helped save people’s lives. I have to empower people to, so they could save their own lives, would actually be more accurate.

Jared Graybeal (04:34):

Yeah. It’s more about empowering other people. Um, I want to help make fitness more affordable, more attractive, and more accessible for people all over the world, right? And so I

Sevan Matossian (04:42):

Think that because it will make a better world, your

Jared Graybeal (04:44):

Words, because it makes a better world. Like we, I can genuinely recall that, like my thought processes and like the decisions I was making prior to regular activity, um, and then becoming, you know, I did my first body building competition in 2011, and I went from eating like an an asshole college kid. Um, like, you know, just mainly everything was about protein and like bench press, right? So I was, yeah, 20 21, 22. And so, um, I committed to my first body building show and did a 16 week prep. And I remember like my clarity from just not eating a sub and pizza every night and like protein shakes all day to like chicken and rice and like cutting, eliminating some things in my, the sleep that I had. And so obviously I thought, well, everyone can’t live like this, right? Like, everyone can’t live in a perpetual state of a 16 week body building prep that’s actually probably unhealthy.


Um, but the clarity I got, how good I felt, the confidence. I mean, I got like a promotion during that time. I went on to become a GM at the gym at, you know, 20 years old. And so like, it was like, this is fascinating how much different, how much, like I’m, I’m angry less, I’m sad less because I’m not eating crap and because I have a regular exercise regimen, You know what I mean? I’m, I’m paying more attention to what I’m putting in my body and what I’m doing with my body. And I think that if just, if people did three to five hours a week at a CrossFit gym all over the world, it would make a ra dramatically different world. Like we, people wouldn’t make bad decision. Like, for example, um, there’s these studies around, uh, daylight savings and the day that we go back and everyone loses an hour, at least in the United States, it’s like crime increases dramatically that day.


Car accidents increased dramatically that day because everyone in the country lost an hour of sleep, right? And so it’s, people make bad decisions when they’re, when they’re not well rested. People also make bad decisions when they’re not treating themselves well or eating well, or exercising regularly, pumping blood throughout their body, releasing endorphins and serotonin in the brain, right? So it’s like we’re, we have the potential to be smarter, to be happier, to be nicer. And, and inevitably if we do those things and we’re gonna have like a probably a more intelligent, more capable world. Um, so I don’t know, you know, so it’s like this, Yes, we don’t need more doctors, We need more people in CrossFit jams,

Sevan Matossian (07:08):

Uh, Jeff, he, uh, um, the starving folks in Ethiopia who don’t have clean water need to CrossFit box in their lives to be so much other. I see what you’re doing there. Listen, that’s not what he was saying. I see how you went there. A lot of people go there. What he’s saying is, is that pe if you’re capable of getting a cell phone into every human being’s hand, who, who are in the middle of nowhere, you should be able to get fitness everywhere. Not maybe necessarily those people. Obviously, he’s not fucking stupid. He knows they need clean water first, and, and, and they need, um, and they need to clear the cobras outta their villages. But he was saying as a parallel, if we have this capability, then we have the capability to send messages to, um, people who do have access to clean water and who do have access to healthy food, not to eat shit. I, I’m, we have Chris Wart coming on, uh, Wednesday, he’s the author of, uh, several books on how to beat cancer. And he was saying 50% of the food consumed by people in the United States is ultra processed. We’ll get into that on Wednesday. Um, can, based on, But what is the date for Ellos games? Tell me all the critical dates for Ellos games.

Jared Graybeal (08:13):

Uh, so the online competition is the main competition, and that is November 11th through November 21st.

Sevan Matossian (08:21):

November 11th workouts through November 21st. Okay.

Jared Graybeal (08:23):

Four workouts over 10 days. Um,

Sevan Matossian (08:26):

And, and when you say that, isn’t there a qual Hold on one second.

Jared Graybeal (08:31):

It’s a little backwards. I’ll explain.

Sevan Matossian (08:33):

Okay, hold on. Ariel, Six minutes. Six minutes. Six minutes. Hey

Jared Graybeal (08:37):


Sevan Matossian (08:37):

No, don’t say hi to Jared. Don’t you guys, Don’t derail me. Don’t derail me. <laugh>, don’t derail. Okay. Go back even further.

Jared Graybeal (08:45):


Sevan Matossian (08:45):

Isn’t there an online competition first that people qualify for the Ellos games? No.

Jared Graybeal (08:50):

So it’s backwards. So like, imagine more like the open announcement and then the open, like we’re having a live event, um, to showcase the workouts and really to, cuz again, the mission of Zelos skis is two part, right? More earnings for athletes all over the world, which we do that by having an online competition and more entertainment for fans. And last year we just, we didn’t do as good as I wanted to do in terms of entertainment. I think you’ll agree. Like in order to grow a sport, you have to have a live entertainment. Um, and so this is me testing that without having some large or some massive community event. As you know, like events are very hard to do. Doing the online one was tough, let alone doing a, a live one. And so what we’ve done is like a sort of a happy medium between like an open announcement with two or three people, rogue invitation of with 20 men, 20 women, a small, much more affordable version for myself. Um, yeah. So we’re doing 12 men, 12 women, uh, are invited out, out to here in Las Vegas to the, to the gym that we train at here. It’s called Camp Rhino. It’s this 10,000 square foot gym. Um, and it’ll be like three heats of four men, three heats of four women, two workouts on Saturday, two workouts on Sunday. Um, yeah, these are the 3D renderings, which I thought were really cool. Um,

Sevan Matossian (09:59):

So I have to think of it differently. This isn’t the open where you sign up and then the events come and then they stream them. This is, hey, when the events are released, we’re gonna show you top athletes who do it right away.

Jared Graybeal (10:15):


Sevan Matossian (10:16):

To you to be like, Hey, look at this.

Jared Graybeal (10:19):

Yeah. This is, you know, we’re not surprising people with last minute announcements. I don’t have the leverage to do that kind of thing. So we’ll have all the workouts announced by, um, the end of next Monday, another announcements this Wednesday, and then another announcement is next Monday. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (10:33):

I like that. And what is that? That’s next Monday is, uh, October 31st.

Jared Graybeal (10:40):

Uh, yes. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (10:41):


Jared Graybeal (10:42):

Um, and then

Sevan Matossian (10:43):

Let me get this, let me get this out real out real quick. October 31st, the Ellos games will announce all of its workouts,

Jared Graybeal (10:50):

The last workout, but

Sevan Matossian (10:51):

Yes, the last workouts. So by the 31st everyone will know. No one will have had to have done any of them yet.

Jared Graybeal (10:58):


Sevan Matossian (10:59):

Uh, and, and the competition’s open to everybody.

Jared Graybeal (11:03):

Uh, so it’s, it, there are 10 divisions, almost everybody. We have an elite division, which is where the majority, where all the cash prize goes to. And there’s a pre-qualifier. We use the quarter finals as a qualifier. So if you’re top 500 in the worldwide quarter finals, you automatically qualify to compete for the cash prize associated with the, the elite division in the Zales games. And then we have the RX division, which is 501 plus. So technically that is for everybody. Um, and then we have eight age group divisions, So Wow. The two teenage divisions and then six masters divisions for those divisions. We have a top three like prize purse. It’s, it’s pretty dope. So there’s like $1,100 in prizes for first $600 in prizes for second, and then $300 in prizes for third. So

Sevan Matossian (11:47):

We’re, are you guys gonna pay your prizes?

Jared Graybeal (11:49):

Well, these are prize packages. So

Sevan Matossian (11:51):

Are you, are you guys actually gonna pay them out or is this just to get people to sign up?

Jared Graybeal (11:55):

<laugh>? No,

Sevan Matossian (11:56):

This, it wasn’t a valid question a year ago, but today it

Jared Graybeal (11:59):

Is. Yeah. No, it’s funny. Hiller texted me that the other day. He’s like, Hey, just checking. I’m like, Yes, Hiller, I have the money. <laugh>, um,

Sevan Matossian (12:05):

<laugh> dick head Hiller.

Jared Graybeal (12:08):

No, I, it’s fair, right? Like, who wants to be associated with a competition? I mean, he’s making all these dang videos, right? So like, he’s like, Should I prep a new one? Um, no. Uh, so yeah, so like, there’s $35,000 in cash prize associated to the elite division, and then there’s close to $33,000 in prizes for all the other age groups in rx. Um, thank you, Nick. That’s awesome. I appreciate that. Um, and so those come from like Yeti and Skd and Paleo power meals and stuff like that, but then the cash obviously comes from the bank for the elite division and, um, that is sitting, uh, in an account just waiting to be emptied

Sevan Matossian (12:44):

Taken. Okay, I, I need to do this one more time. I hate to be the Dead Horse. By October 31st, all the um, uh, workouts will be announced.

Jared Graybeal (12:55):

Yep. One tomorrow and then another one on Monday.

Sevan Matossian (12:58):

Then on November 11th, uh, sorry. On November, uh, uh, 11th people can start doing the workouts. Yes. And, uh, and on November 12th and 13th, um, we’ll be doing a live show where you can watch, um, super high end athletes do the workouts.

Jared Graybeal (13:16):

You’ll be broadcasting it.

Sevan Matossian (13:17):

Yep. And then the next date after that, that will be, there’ll be some sort of closing date for who goes on to the next stage.

Jared Graybeal (13:28):

No, it’s just like, so the live event is sort of a showcase style event for all the online workouts. Yeah. And then the online competition is from November 11th to November 21st.

Sevan Matossian (13:38):

And at the, and so, so, okay. And then so from the, and then the, So what is this thing about the top? It doesn’t seem like that there’s a top 500 people, it’s just everyone’s in it.

Jared Graybeal (13:48):

No. So like to, what, what I wanted to do is build more value in the elite division. I didn’t want like,

Sevan Matossian (13:53):

But they’re the same workouts, aren’t they?

Jared Graybeal (13:55):

They’re all slightly different. We’ve just like the old one. Right. Okay. Like we’ve changed them for the 14 to 15 division. We’ve changed it for the 55 59 division. Okay. Um, but the Elite,

Sevan Matossian (14:06):

So, so when you say these workouts will be released, they’ll be scaled versions for the different divisions. Yep.

Jared Graybeal (14:11):

They’re all in competition corner where the, where the competition lives. So you can go and register for Elite and you’ll see the workouts for Elite. You can register for 45 to 49 and you’ll see the, the modified version of the workout in that competition like registration page. Um, and so, you know, this year we, last year we only had the elite division and scale division, but obviously with CrossFit kind of cutting that division in half for the games. Um, I wanted to add another offseason opportunity for these athletes to, to take part in some competition where they’re rewarded. Unfortunately, I didn’t have money for all 10 divisions. Right. Like that would, that would be a whole lot. Um, but we were lucky enough to leverage a lot of the sponsors and partners to, to get basically what these people would buy with money if they had it anyways, Right? Like, um, they’re buying the paleo power meals and the, the daughter headphones and all that fun stuff. So, um, we were pretty cool.

Sevan Matossian (15:02):

What’s the website? What’s the website URL to register

Jared Graybeal (15:06):

The alos games.com.

Sevan Matossian (15:08):

T h e Z L L o S one L one l

Jared Graybeal (15:14):

L z e l o

Sevan Matossian (15:16):

S. How did you get that? What’s that name mean?

Jared Graybeal (15:19):

Uh, it’s a Greek out of rivalry.

Sevan Matossian (15:22):


Jared Graybeal (15:22):

It. Nike’s brother. Nike’s brother. I’ll put the competition corner registration in the chat. That

Sevan Matossian (15:28):

Would be cool. Awesome.

Jared Graybeal (15:29):

Thank you Kevin.

Sevan Matossian (15:30):

Uh, oh. Jeff Beko says we’re ready for the headliner. Well, if he says so Jared, you’d a man.

Jared Graybeal (15:38):

Thank you bro. Have fun

Sevan Matossian (15:39):

There. We’ll be, see, we’ll be seeing you soon. We’ll have you back on to talk about this, obviously, uh, before uh, registration opens.

Jared Graybeal (15:45):

Appreciate it. Thanks for the love, Jeff.

Sevan Matossian (15:47):

Okay, thank you <laugh>. Bye.

Jared Graybeal (15:50):


Sevan Matossian (15:54):

Fastest is 15 minutes of the show. I can’t believe that was 15 minutes.

Arielle Loewen (15:58):

Hey guys.

Sevan Matossian (15:59):

Hi. Oh my goodness. We get two guests for the price of one.

Arielle Loewen (16:02):

Oh yeah. You get a surprise guest.

Sevan Matossian (16:05):

Uh, what’s her name?

Arielle Loewen (16:07):

Blakely. Don’t worry, she can’t hear anything you say. So you can cuss all you want. Savan. Oh good.

Sevan Matossian (16:13):

How old’s Blakely? Um,

Arielle Loewen (16:15):

She’s three.

Sevan Matossian (16:16):

Um, you are, when you qualify for the games next year, you are not, you were thinking about not taking her to the games.

Arielle Loewen (16:24):

Correct. Too hot. Yeah, and I

Sevan Matossian (16:27):

Too long, too

Arielle Loewen (16:28):

Hot. And it’s not for kids. Like, we’re not gonna take her to Rogue either, cuz who wants to sit for hours and just watch someone compete as a kid?

Sevan Matossian (16:38):

I like, I like what she said to you too, uh, last year at the games. What about just taking today off when we hang out, Like just skip this day of the games

Arielle Loewen (16:46):

<laugh>. Exactly. But she still asked to go back to the hotel almost every day. So the hotel,

Sevan Matossian (16:51):

She kids love hotels.

Arielle Loewen (16:53):

Yeah. I didn’t realize that. Games not so much.

Sevan Matossian (16:57):

Elevator, escalator. People, restaurants, they love that shit. My kids been swimming pool. My kids just want to go to hotels. I’m like, we’re not, we don’t need to go anywhere. We’ll, they’re like, we have hotels in this town.

Arielle Loewen (17:07):

Go to the Motel Six, Treat ’em

Sevan Matossian (17:12):

Uh, Rogue. You’re going to Rogue.

Arielle Loewen (17:14):

Yeah, we leave tonight actually. And then we’ll get there tomorrow morning.

Sevan Matossian (17:19):

Um, how come you’re going to Rogue?

Arielle Loewen (17:23):

How come? I think yeah, um, it’s like the best, besides the games, I feel like you have to qualify for the games to get invited to Rogue, but it’s probably like my favorite competition hands down. Just cuz they treat us so well and it’s in Texas.

Sevan Matossian (17:39):

Let, let’s give, let, let’s love on Katie. Dear Katie and Bill, open a bottle of wine and enjoy this segment. Yep. As we love on you. Why have you met Katie and Bill? Bill

Arielle Loewen (17:50):

And Katie? I’ve seen them, but no, I haven’t met them face to face.

Sevan Matossian (17:53):

Huge mistake.

Arielle Loewen (17:55):


Sevan Matossian (17:55):

Huge mistake. Huge mistake. Huge mistake. Yeah. Fir first thing if they try to start the first event and you haven’t met them yet, just walk right. Bill, hold on and walk over and introduce yourself to Bill and Katie.

Arielle Loewen (18:06):

You’ve met them quite a bit.

Sevan Matossian (18:09):

I have. I have. Yeah. I, I, you know, I was actually thinking yesterday, I may be one of the few people who’s ever interviewed Bill. Bill doesn’t do interviews, but when I would do the behind the scenes, I would just, just run up on him and just ask him questions like, How many trucks did you bring? How much weight is here? You know, and he, and he would answer, answer the questions. He’s a man of few words.

Arielle Loewen (18:31):

I like it.

Sevan Matossian (18:32):

I like to make fun of him on this show.

Arielle Loewen (18:35):


Sevan Matossian (18:36):


Arielle Loewen (18:36):

Don’t you like to make

Sevan Matossian (18:37):

Fun of? Everyone’s fair game. Uh oh ha. You got a haircut? Speaking of making fun of so

Arielle Loewen (18:46):

Yeah, self-made haircut.

Sevan Matossian (18:48):

Uh uh, Why, why is it the best? Why is it the best event? What do they do? Jared’s watching. What do they do? Jared’s got his pencil on paper out. He’s gonna take his jars. What, what did Bill and Katie do that makes Rogue the best?

Arielle Loewen (19:02):

I think you’ve heard they give like a travel stipend. They cover the hotel, but what really stood out to me last year is they put us all on the Dell Diamond baseball field and like briefed us for the event and like the first thing outta their mouth was, We’re not here to kill you. We’re here for you guys to put on a show. People are paying to come watch you. Like, And then they went over their workout standards and they’re like, get over the log, get under the log. They’re like, we don’t care if you go with your right foot with your left foot. So going like from the games, which is very rigid of how it should flow Rogue was just like put on a show and it was kind of refreshing

Sevan Matossian (19:41):

And almost like they take a little bit of pressure off of you.

Arielle Loewen (19:44):


Sevan Matossian (19:46):

Um, they say they’re not here to kill you, but they’ve added a Thursday event. I

Arielle Loewen (19:51):

Know <laugh>, that was what they said last year. This year might be a whole different ballgame.

Sevan Matossian (19:57):

Um, do you have any thoughts on what Thursday’s event might be?

Arielle Loewen (20:01):

I’m like 90% convinced. I was talking to one of my friends about it last night, Bob from accounting. He came over and worked out with me. But I guess there

Sevan Matossian (20:08):

You have a friend and that’s his title. Bob from Accounting

Arielle Loewen (20:11):

<laugh>. When we first met him, we knew him as Bob and he told us he was an accountant. So we literally for like a year called him Bob the accountant, come to find out he is not an accountant and he’s like way cfo, ceo. Um, but he told us there’s like a park in Austin Round Rock, kind of next to the venue. So I’m debating it’s gonna be a trail run through the park with a r, something like that.

Sevan Matossian (20:39):

Uh, let me also throw out there that Bill and Katie also own what I suspect to be a massive ranch

Arielle Loewen (20:47):

In Roundrock,

Sevan Matossian (20:48):

Texas. I don’t know where it is, but I know it’s in Texas cuz I see it on Bill’s Instagram.

Arielle Loewen (20:54):


Sevan Matossian (20:55):


Arielle Loewen (20:56):

Yeah. We’ve been told to bring trail running shoes. So to me, yeah, I just assume outdoor run,

Sevan Matossian (21:03):

If you go to Bill’s Instagram, you’ll see there’s this giant pile of rocks and he takes a picture it every once in a while. And this giant pile of rocks is a pla every, he runs a trail there and every time he runs the loop, he puts one rock there and it’s a mass and it’s a massive pile and it’s sort of do, do you see it, Caleb?

Arielle Loewen (21:26):

You pull that

Sevan Matossian (21:27):

On hen’s? I’m looking

Caleb Beaver (21:28):

For right now. It’s, I don’t know if he, last time I saw it, it was on his story and then the time before that it was on Dave’s story. So I’m trying to scroll

Sevan Matossian (21:35):

Through. Okay. I, um, I, and, and, and maybe, maybe, maybe, uh, maybe I wasn’t supposed to say that. Everyone forget what I just said, but it is,

Arielle Loewen (21:45):

He’s gonna make up clean up all his rocks He’s been collecting. Gonna have to throw ’em in our backpack.

Caleb Beaver (21:52):

Oh, he’s gonna carry on ball back.

Arielle Loewen (21:54):

That’d be funny.

Sevan Matossian (21:56):

Uh, you, you were, you were on the uh, um, mindset pod, uh, Invictus Mindset podcast.

Arielle Loewen (22:05):

I was.

Sevan Matossian (22:07):

And you said something about Deadlifting three 15

Arielle Loewen (22:13):

For the first time.

Sevan Matossian (22:14):

For the first time. When was that?

Arielle Loewen (22:16):

That was at the games on the back nine. Final day of competition.

Sevan Matossian (22:21):

Uh, this year.

Arielle Loewen (22:22):

This year? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:23):

And, and, and that’s, that was a pr for you?

Arielle Loewen (22:26):

Yeah, it was a pr I actually didn’t even know if I could lift it until I went to pick it up and it honestly felt lighter than I expected. So, uh, I was pretty excited.

Sevan Matossian (22:36):

And, and yet you’re going to the Rogue event, which I think is sort of the, uh, notorious, if you were to put it in a category is is heavy, heavy stuff.

Arielle Loewen (22:45):

Oh yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:46):

Are you, Oh yeah. Um, what, what are your thoughts on that? Are, are you, do you embrace that? Does it add fear?

Arielle Loewen (22:53):


Sevan Matossian (22:53):

That’s the challenge. All of it.

Arielle Loewen (22:55):

It adds a little bit of fear, but I’ve also been working on heavy stuff. Cause like I’d be a fool if I didn’t look back at like the old rogue programming and start programming to fit it. So I’ve been trying to do my best to program rogue esque workouts. Like if I’m doing double unders, I’m not gonna be using a regular rope. Like you gotta use the rogue heavy rope. Just trying to be smart. But I also know like, certain girls can lift a lot. I can only do what my body can do. So I’ll be excited to see what happens, I guess come this weekend.

Sevan Matossian (23:29):

Um, why haven’t it, it seems to be a staple of like people’s, um, uh, Instagram accounts to show things like how much they can lift and, and, and the, and the weights. We, the, the movements we often see are right deadlifts, um, cleans

Arielle Loewen (23:45):


Sevan Matossian (23:46):

I would say are the most popular. Um, what’s the other one? Front squats. Yeah, back squats. Snatch. Why haven’t you taken, why haven’t, have you put pressure on, You haven’t put that pressure on yourself to get just super duper strong and, and, and make some of these posts?

Arielle Loewen (24:04):

I wouldn’t say I do it for the posts. Like if, like I look at people I idolize. I mean you look at Tia, you look at Froning. Do you ever see them post their maxes when they hit ’em? No, probably not. So I would more like after Rogue, I’m gonna go to a strong man gym here in Midland and just be like, okay, I don’t, how do I get stronger? So maybe after Rogue there’ll be more prs, but those will be more like, I don’t know, I like pring on the competition floor live in front of an audience with the adrenaline. I’m not the type to like set up my camera in the corner of the gym, slap my legs and try the pr. <laugh> just doesn’t work for me as much.

Sevan Matossian (24:45):

Who’s doing your programming?

Arielle Loewen (24:47):

I actually, after the games, um, I took over my own programming.

Sevan Matossian (24:51):

So And who was, who was doing it?

Arielle Loewen (24:54):

Um, a guy at the gym I go to. There’s a Midland guy. But, um, that’ll be one thing I’m a little nervous about at Rogue is I have, I, not that you have someone to fall back on, but like if I blow up on an event, okay. It comes back to me if I don’t do well at this. Okay. It’s all on me cuz I’ve been kind of taking the reins.

Sevan Matossian (25:15):

Who else programs for themselves? Ariel,

Arielle Loewen (25:19):

Um, I guess Tia and Shane, if you’d consider that.

Sevan Matossian (25:23):

I don’t know. At least they don’t either. At least they have two of them. Um, why not? Do you subscribe to anyone else’s programming to, to check it out? Like do you have a subscription to Proven or to Mayhem or to CompTrain

Arielle Loewen (25:36):

Or, I’ve reached out, I’ve reached out to Jared. Obviously me and Jared are good friends about underdogs. I’ve got a buddy Josh, who, who works for hard work pays off, but like, I don’t have the time. They’ll send me the programming and it’s like three hours and I don’t necessarily have three hours, so I might like pick a piece. And then if I were to pick that piece, and then Tuesday gets difficult because I didn’t do all of it. So it just gets complicated. So I was like, you know what, I’m just gonna do it for myself up until Rogue. And then I’ll kind of evaluate from there to see where I want to go. But after the games, I sat down with like, I kind of know what my weaknesses are. I sat down with my husband and like four trusted friends and I was like, Okay, where do I suck? And then I like wrote down and I was like, How would you improve on that? What do you think? And then we kind of went from there. So I have like a little bit of a team, but I don’t know if it’s perfect just yet.

Sevan Matossian (26:31):

And, and, and you’ll be really honest with yourself if it’s, if it’s something you suck. Let’s say it was rowing just for example, and you wanted to get better at rowing, you have that discipline to be like, Okay, here we go.

Arielle Loewen (26:43):

If someone joins me. Yes. Like, if I could sucker in Dylan to doing it, Absolutely. But by myself, not so much.

Sevan Matossian (26:51):

It’s it’s fascinating talking to you. It’s so different than talking to, um, someone like Emma Carey, Emma Emma’s like, I’ll cut off my leg in order to get the training in.

Arielle Loewen (27:01):

Well I listened to that episode too and I’m like, man, she’s got the heart to a T and she’s gonna like, push herself to get there.

Sevan Matossian (27:11):

Or, or even Vener like, uh, um, he said it’s been eight years since he’s missed fulfilling all of the training that La Andre gives him. Eight years.

Arielle Loewen (27:22):

Eight years

Sevan Matossian (27:24):

Of never, of, never, never, never. And I go, You do it all. He goes, Yeah, sometimes I rush it. So, so yours, How do you not have that pressure? How do you not put that pressure on yourself? Did you ever have that pressure on yourself?

Arielle Loewen (27:38):

I think I used to, but I’ve kind of come to the point now where I’m like secure in my abilities as an athlete and secure in like who I am as a person. That even if I go to rogue and get last place, which like knock on some wood, like I, I know I’ll still come home and I’ll live in the same house and go to the same gym. Like I, I love the title I have of like, fit mom in America, 11th on Earth. But I also know that, um, I’m not willing to make the sacrifices of like being in the gym eight hours following this rigid program to stay at the level I’m at.

Sevan Matossian (28:17):

Have you kept all of your, um, programming, Do you have an organized journal or spreadsheet of everything you’ve done in the last five years? 10 years?

Arielle Loewen (28:25):

I, I have started now that I’m programming for myself, I’ve started my own programming journal. So if RO goes well <laugh>, I will love that journal. If it goes bad, you’ll see it thrown in the fire back there. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (28:40):

Um, it, it is interesting what, uh, John Clark is saying here. Um, we need high level programming for parents that wanna compete at the games. I, it, it, I bet you there would be a lot of,

Arielle Loewen (28:50):

That’s actually a good idea.

Sevan Matossian (28:52):

Moms who would be curious. So

Arielle Loewen (28:57):

Cuz I’ll put it this way. I have, I know a window from like 11 o’clock to one 30 and like if I don’t get all my stuff done in that window, like I can’t do it. So I need to make sure what I’m doing is intentional, high intensity in that little bit of time and there’s time for strength and then I go about my day after that and like, you like a

Sevan Matossian (29:16):

Hard’s done. That’s it. Then it’s by, by CrossFit it’s, it’s it’s mama work. Uh, wife.

Arielle Loewen (29:22):

Yeah. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Me and Dylan will work out at our home gym in the evenings. But that’s

Sevan Matossian (29:28):

Just like as, as supplemental like a second workout.

Arielle Loewen (29:31):

Exactly. But that’s usually like a month before a competition. That’s not on the regular by any means.

Sevan Matossian (29:40):

Um, does he show any signs of getting, um, tired of your, um, pursuits? The, all the

Arielle Loewen (29:49):

I, No. Oh. I think now that I’m reaping the benefits of it, obviously we’re married, we’re both reaping the benefits of it, but he actually has a bet coming up in a.

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