#637 – Brad Gosse

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Spam. We’re live. Uh oh. Uh oh. How come? It’s just me. Hi Caleb. Where’s the guest? <laugh>. Good morning. Holy cow. Uh, this is, I don’t, I hope this isn’t the kind of thing that I say over and over and over, cuz I, um, I don’t think it is. I am beyond excited usually when I’m really excited to have a guest on like, Patrick Bed David or Don Fall, or Al Jermaine Sterling, or, um, you know, even people closer to home like a, a Haley Adams. Um, there’s a bit of me that’s like nervous that wants to run away. This is one of those first, this is one of those guests where, um, I’m, I’m beyond excited and, and there was no urge to run away today. Like I really wanted to do it. There’s a part of me that wants to run away from every single podcast minutes before we go live.


I’m like, Fuck, why am I doing this? And like, my, my whole fucking giant brain starts up and I just wanna run away from doing the podcast. This guy that we’re gonna have on today, there is, uh, there’s, there’s two things going on here. There’s like a small business miracle that you’re about to witness, just like CrossFit Inc. Everyone, those of you who have been indoctrinated into CrossFit, you know that it is the cure for the world’s most vexing problem. You know, that the level one is the, um, uh, manual to the human genome. You, you know that if you do CrossFit, you follow the protocols of eating and movement, you’ll be inoculated from fucking everything. 86% of all medical expenditure goes to chronic disease and you get inoculated by it and all that. And it’s fucking great. And it’s a community, and it’s holistic and you get support.


But the small business miracle around CrossFit, which is super like overlooked like crazy, is there’s 15,000 gyms on all seven continents in 162 countries. And people don’t realize that that is a crazy small business miracle. This guy you’re looking at that just popped, popped on right here. This is a guy who’s doing what he absolutely loves to do. He’s funny, he’s crass, he’s wise, but there’s also a small business miracle. This, there’s like this story of intense personal accountability and personal responsibility and self-belief here. And so I kind of wanna manage both stories at the same time. I want to get the story of them, of what makes him confident enough to pursue this path. But I also want to touch on the part of it that’s the inner child. To me that’s always loved, just really crass humor. Uh, you know, as a child I was obsessed with, uh, Abbott and Costello. A lot of you probably don’t even know who that is. Uh, but, but it’s a different path to wealth and success and freedom than Patrick be. David took who he had on as a guest. You know, he’s worth several hundred million dollars. I think he’s about to actually cross over the billion dollar mark. Uh, this is a different kind of story of this real, uh, go-getter success. Brad. Hi.

Brad Gosse (03:24):


Sevan Matossian (03:25):

What’s up, brother?

Brad Gosse (03:27):

Um, I’m up. It’s 10:00 AM

Sevan Matossian (03:31):

I, um, I’ve had, uh, a dozen comedians on the show and, uh, I, I’d say we’re at a 90% failure rate. They’re complete fucking depressed, messed flop, bunch of weirdos,

Brad Gosse (03:46):

<laugh>. Yeah, that’s my experience. <laugh>, that’s my experience.

Sevan Matossian (03:50):

But I’ve watched just about everything I could get my hands on about you. And, uh, it, it’s interesting and, and you know, the two approaches with comedians. Some, some of your podcast hosts expect you to come on as, um, the character that you portray on the internet. And, and then others just have a real conversation. Like the, um, you did that podcast with the guy, uh, who was kind of the publication expert, right? His whole podcast is around bringing people on who are self-publishers.

Brad Gosse (04:16):

Oh, yeah. Dale. Yeah. So, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (04:19):

Um, do you mind, I’d like to start, I’d like to start with this completely off topic. Uh, I’d like to start with this quote. Uh, usually I say this for my life calling shows, but I saw this yesterday. It’s a quote from Anne Rand, and I’d like to read it to you guys. I’d like to, I’d probably read it on a bunch of podcasts. The smallest minority on Earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities. Anne Rand, I Rand Do you think I’m pronouncing her name right?

Brad Gosse (04:51):

I have no idea. Good. Okay, good. I don’t know who that is.

Sevan Matossian (04:53):

Well, then you think I, then you must think I’m smart.

Brad Gosse (04:56):

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You, yeah, you’re coming off way smarter than me right now. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (05:00):

What, um, how will you pronounce your last name for me?

Brad Gosse (05:03):

Goss Rhymes with Bos

Sevan Matossian (05:05):

Bo Goss. Uh, our, our guest is Brad Boss, Brad Goss. And, uh, he, uh, is hailing from, uh, north of the United States where I reside. Uh, and I, and I, I want, I wanna show you three links real quick. Uh, before we get started, Caleb, do you see those three links? It says Big Black Hawk. Can you click those, um, in order, starting with the YouTube, Uh, Brad. Brad, how many books have you written? How many books do you have published?

Brad Gosse (05:34):

A hundred twenty three, a hundred twenty three

Sevan Matossian (05:37):

Books published. His first book was in 2012. It was a bestseller. Uh, he took a hiatus. And then, uh, Brad, three years ago, you, you, you got back on the, three years ago he got back on the train and he published his next 122 books between three years ago and today. And, uh, Hang tight, this is, do you have any idea what number? Um, this book is, uh, Big Blackhawk.

Brad Gosse (05:59):

That’s number 123.

Sevan Matossian (06:02):

No shit. This is your most recent publication. Awesome. Okay. Here we, by the way, everything you’re gonna see is a avail. I think everything you’re gonna see is available on, um, Amazon. Amazon, uh, and they, they come like this, their, their great books. I I also, if you, um, if you’re a cheaps skate like me, you can start finding copies of books where there’s like, here’s 14 books in one. Um, okay, here we go. Brad, By the way, when YouTube set finds out that I stole this from you, please just pass on the copyright. Oh yeah,

Brad Gosse (06:32):

You’re good.

Sevan Matossian (06:33):

You’re good. Okay. All right. All

Brad Gosse (06:36):

Girls love my big black hawk. When they come to ride, he makes them all. Squawk Big Black Hawk has a giant black head. Big Black Hawk only sleeps in my bed. Big Black Hawk scares the fellas, except my friend to Jack. Big Black Hawk makes you jealous because he’s so black. Black Hawk is Jack’s most favorite ride, but I can’t get Jack off until he’s satisfied. My big Black Hawk is available on Amazon

Sevan Matossian (07:10):

<laugh>. I loved, I loved Jack. Uh, how long did it take to decide on the image of Jack?

Brad Gosse (07:17):

Oh, no. Uh, no time mean, I just, you know, uh, I don’t draw. So I have a cartoonist. I, I basically just describe Jack to the cartoonist, you know, pencil, mustache, you know, scarf, you know, I kind of just described him

Sevan Matossian (07:29):

French. Canadian homosexual.

Brad Gosse (07:31):


Sevan Matossian (07:32):

God, I’d love to see your notes. I’d love to see your email. Do you talk to your artists or do you email them? Or

Brad Gosse (07:37):

Both That we Skype. Skype. We Skype chat. Skype. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (07:40):

Skype. Uh, you ever had an art, want any of your artists be like, Hey, I’m not, I’m not doing this. You’ve gone over the top. Yep. Wow.

Brad Gosse (07:47):

Yep. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (07:49):

I have moral boundaries.

Brad Gosse (07:50):

Yeah. They don’t, didn’t work for me anymore. Um, <laugh>, I had a, I, I had, I had this cartoonist. Uh, she was really good. Um, she was, but she was like very strict Catholic. And, uh, I can’t even remember what I asked her to draw. I wish I could remember. I, it’s like, it was, it was one of those like, uh, um, it, it was something religious and I can’t re probably involved the Pope. And she was like, Sir, I draw the line here. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (08:18):

Um, uh, okay. Uh, Will, will you show the, the second link on? Um, we have, they’re all around the big Black Hawk, These first three links, Caleb, this the second link from Instagram. Okay. So, um, normally I don’t jump ahead, I don’t even let you guys know who the guest is and we just start the interview. But this is like, I really want you to, you guys to see what we’re dealing with here. Of all, he has 123 books. I scoured his Instagram and I never saw anyone read his content besides him. Is this the, is this the first guy to ever

Brad Gosse (08:51):

No. Oh, no. My, my stuff gets read all the time. But this, this particular,

Sevan Matossian (08:55):

But I mean, where you showcase it,

Brad Gosse (08:57):

Um, yeah, that’s a little bit more rare. This guy reached out to me, he’s a voiceover artist, and he was like, Hey, if I, you know, if I send you a video of me reading the book? And I looked, I checked out his, his Instagram, I’m like, Oh God, this guy’s got the voice for it. So he’s, I said, Yeah, you know, send it to me. I’ll tag you, and I’d love to share it. And it’s doing really well.

Sevan Matossian (09:15):

So he here is the same book with another artist, um, giving their, uh, rendition of it. Uh, and, and his audience is, uh, a little rude and keeps interrupting him. But, uh, enjoy

Speaker 3 (09:28):

Black Hawk. All the girls love my big black hawk. When they come to ride, he makes them all squawk. What’s the squa mean? That’s when they make a noise. Big Black Hawk as a giant Blackhead, Big Black Hawk only sleeps in my bed. Aren’t they lucky? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Big Black Hawk scares the fellas, except my friend Jack. Big Black Hawk makes you jealous because he’s so black. Black Hawk is Jack’s favorite ride, but I can’t get Jack off until he’s satisfied. Yeah. You like that? It’s called my Big Black Hawk. Do you have a big black hawk? I do have a big Black Hawk. I will show it to your mother at our parent teacher conference’s. Gonna be happy. All right. It’s ma tab. Now my

Brad Gosse (10:25):

Shout out to Marcella Shepherd. That was, He’s amazing.

Sevan Matossian (10:29):

Marcella. She, uh, let’s cue him up as a guest. Yeah, Yeah. Uh, and, and, and finally we click the third link down there. I forget what this is. This just might be a still photo of the book. I, I wanna make sure everyone got to see. Oh, so on top of that, and now this is what’s important also, this guy is a one man wrecking crew, um, will get into all the, the, the accessories he has. Um, a marketer would be like, Oh, he’s such a great promoter. I, I, I just don’t see it that way. I just see it as, um, he loves his books and he has all of, um, his books have a crema. Like you saw one was the guy reading it. He has jingles before he ever, um, of all 123 books. Um, I’ll show you some of the videos before he starts reading them online. A jingle plays. And I, I, here’s a, just a, a little, you know, a, a another. This is like the, um, the purse of the book. Here we go.

Speaker 3 (11:29):


Speaker 4 (11:29):

Girls black.

Speaker 3 (11:33):


Speaker 4 (11:34):

Girls black.

Sevan Matossian (11:37):

Every book has something like that. Also, it, it, this guy is, um, he’s like an animation publishing. He’s just a, you’re a publishing house of, of some sorts.

Brad Gosse (11:52):

That’s one way to look at it.

Sevan Matossian (11:54):

Yeah. Yeah. Te tell me, tell me, um, do you ever, la how do you label yourself? What do you identify with Brad

Brad Gosse (12:03):

<laugh>. It depends who I’m talking to. I usually say comedian. Um, but it’s, it’s one of those weird things where when you say that people always want you to entertain them, immediately, they’re like, Well, tell me a joke. You know? And so I try, I don’t know, I, I haven’t quite figured out how I identify, but I, to me, this is, you know, it’s, it’s a business. Um, humor is the product. Um, I create the humor and my sell to humor.

Sevan Matossian (12:32):

When, what, what’s a bit, when you say business, what do you mean? Um, something for you to put food on your table.

Brad Gosse (12:37):

Yeah. I do it for the money. You know, I’m not like, I’m not gonna pretend I’m an artist. Uh, you know, I hire artists, I write comedy. Um, but I, this is a business first. Um, you know, I publish humor books and I have a social media, uh, outlet to promote those humor books. And I go viral a lot because the, the content of the books are funny. But, you know, it’s a business.

Sevan Matossian (13:05):

Yeah. I don’t, I, Okay. Uh, uh, I don’t believe you. Here, here’s why. Here’s why I don’t believe you. You, I don’t think someone can put as much energy into some, I don’t think it’s a business first. I don’t think someone can put as much energy into what you’re doing.

Brad Gosse (13:23):

Oh, I

Sevan Matossian (13:24):

Love it. Yeah. And money means a

Brad Gosse (13:25):

Girl. And I’m a hundred percent aligned with me inside. Like, Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (13:28):

Yeah. Okay.

Brad Gosse (13:29):

You know, but, but you know, I’m 40, I’m turning 49 next month. Right. So I, you know, I was an entrepreneur long before this, and always a funny person to my friends. And, and then at one point I realized I could align the two, and, you know, and, and, and that’s what happened. But it’s still to me, like if there was no money, I wouldn’t do it.

Sevan Matossian (13:52):

Oh, understood. Understood.

Brad Gosse (13:55):


Sevan Matossian (13:55):

Know, But then it was, you were

Brad Gosse (13:56):

Still artists that are like, I would do it in a cardboard box. That’s not me. I’d be, I’d go work at Chrysler, you know, <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (14:03):

Oh ha. Have you ever had a nine to five job?

Brad Gosse (14:06):

Uh, no. Oh. Um, in my early twenties a couple times. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (14:10):

What did you do?

Brad Gosse (14:11):

I worked, uh, in telemarketing. Uh, I managed my dad’s furniture store for a couple years and then, uh, became an entrepreneur.

Sevan Matossian (14:20):

Uh, never fast food.

Brad Gosse (14:22):

Uh, I worked in a restaurant, but not fast food. I worked in a 24-hour, uh, diner as a dishwasher.

Sevan Matossian (14:29):

Um, oh, I, I wash dishes at a pizza place. Um, uh, what was the other job? I was just gonna ask. You’ve had another job. Oh, parking cars. Did you ever park cars?

Brad Gosse (14:40):


Sevan Matossian (14:41):

Yeah, I parked cars too. That’s kind of a cool job, cuz there, there’s camra a lot of camaraderie.

Brad Gosse (14:47):


Sevan Matossian (14:47):

Bet. You know, there’s like 10 U dudes and you’re just, everyone’s just running.

Brad Gosse (14:51):


Sevan Matossian (14:52):

Um, you’re born, where were you born? In Canada.

Brad Gosse (14:56):


Sevan Matossian (14:58):

And what did your parents do?

Brad Gosse (15:00):

My dad sold cars. My mom was a nurse.

Sevan Matossian (15:05):

And, um, Are they, are you both your parents still alive? Yep. What, what do they think about, um, were they concerned when you sort of went off on this, that, how you were gonna make a li and you have a daughter, right? Beautiful daughter.

Brad Gosse (15:19):

I have, uh, twins. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (15:20):

Twins. Oh, awesome. I have twins too.

Brad Gosse (15:22):

How old?

Sevan Matossian (15:23):


Brad Gosse (15:24):

Five. Okay. Turned 13.

Sevan Matossian (15:26):

Wow. Congratulations. I have two. Oh, hence the picture of one of the girls making the other girl look small in the staircase. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. They’d, Okay. Um, and, uh, what did your parents think? You have two daughters. Um, they know you have to support your kids. Did they get concerned when you, when you were, what did you do right? B what, Did you have a nine to five at three years ago as you transitioned into this? No,

Brad Gosse (15:50):

I’ve been an entrepreneur since I was 24. CEO since 24, you know? Yeah, exactly. Uh,

Sevan Matossian (15:58):

And, um, were they ever concerned, going back to when you were 24, like, Hey, Brad, you really need to get a job like at Starbucks, or you can have health insurance and you can start paying into your, whatever, your social security and all and all that stuff?

Brad Gosse (16:10):

No, I, I’m, I’m very lucky. I’m an only child. And my parents were, were, my mom especially was very encouraging of, you know, do what you want, do what you love, don’t compromise. Um, so no, I never had that. Um, I’ve seen other people who have that upbringing and they have a lot of self-doubt. I’m very lucky, you know, I, I’m to a fault, maybe I was told, you know, I was special.

Sevan Matossian (16:38):

And, um, I guess that’s a, uh, common theme. And a lot of people who come on the show, they have someone in their life that believes in them. Yeah. And, and I used to talk about that a lot, both my mom and my, I was raised by my mom and my sister. I saw my dad on the weekends, but both my mom and my sister always believed in me. And I felt that like crazy felt

Brad Gosse (16:56):

That, Yeah, it’s, it’s a different, you know, it’s a different thing when that happens, right? When people around you believe in you, you wanna live up to their belief and you, and if you believe in you, it’s easy,

Sevan Matossian (17:12):

Uh, to get out. Another issue I had, um, as a wannabe comedian is, uh, being able to, being able to say things that I think that might have offended my mom. Things that I didn’t, that I didn’t think my mom wanted to hear, uh, come out of my mouth. So when you publish something like Big Blackhawk, you just have to push that. And now my mom listens to my podcast non-stop, and it’s like, I’m like, Holy cow, I can’t believe she’s taking this. I can’t believe I’m not getting in trouble every time I get off the air, even at 50. Um, and she just usually gives me a thumbs up or a thumbs down. Or sometimes she’ll be like, Hey, you need to turn down the, the swearing a little bit. But like all the vagina jokes and penis jokes and all that stuff, she just, just kind of flowed with just tolerates. But I didn’t know. It took me 50 years to figure out that I could, I could do that. I could say it. I didn’t just have to sit around with the boys and make these jokes while watching ufc.

Brad Gosse (18:06):

Right. Did

Sevan Matossian (18:08):

Did you have a moment where you’re like, Okay, fuck it. I’m not gonna worry about what my mom thinks or what my dad thinks?

Brad Gosse (18:13):

Yeah, that was a long time ago. Oh shit. You know, my, my, why

Sevan Matossian (18:16):

Did it take me 50 years?

Brad Gosse (18:18):

My, you know, my, you know, the, my whole life I’ve always just kind of done my own thing and been, you know, uh, on the, on the, on the outside of, of what other, what normal people are doing. Um, you know, every business I’ve done, everything I’ve done has been weird. So nothing shocks my family <laugh>. Like, there’s nothing. And the fact that, that I’m, if anything, if anything, I’m sure I, I mean, I haven’t talked to my parents about this specifically, but if I asked them, they would probably say, Yeah, this makes sense. What you’re doing. Like, seems, seems about right.

Sevan Matossian (18:53):

And you have a girlfriend?

Brad Gosse (18:55):


Sevan Matossian (18:56):

Yeah, wife. Um, you told a story

Brad Gosse (18:59):

In 19 days. Been married for 19 days.

Sevan Matossian (19:01):

Oh, shit. Congratulations. Thanks. You guys live together? Yeah. Oh, shit. A lot of big steps here. I know you Canadians do stuff kind of funny. Like, you guys might get married but not move in together. You guys think out of the box

Brad Gosse (19:16):

That I don’t, I’m, I don’t know anybody who does that.

Sevan Matossian (19:18):

All right. Well, I made it up.

Brad Gosse (19:20):

Uh, it sounds it sounds like something you could say about Canadians and everybody would believe you, so you should just keep saying it. Good. I think that would be great.

Sevan Matossian (19:28):

Uh, when you were, when you were growing up, did you play sports as a kid?

Brad Gosse (19:32):


Sevan Matossian (19:34):

What were your, what were your hobbies as a kid? What, what did you do to pass the time? What kind of extracurricular stuff did your parents, um, put you in from let’s say seven to

Brad Gosse (19:42):

18? They didn’t put me in anything. I was an only child. Um, you know, my parents didn’t have a lot of money. So when I was, when I was, uh, nine years old, my toy of choice was a box of old wire clippings from electrical work and switches and things. And I would just like, you know, fiddle with them and rewire them, twist, twist wires together and cut my fingers on strands of copper.

Sevan Matossian (20:09):

Wow. And would you pretend like there’s stuff too, Like would you pretend like there were space ships and they would fight and stuff like that? Yeah,

Brad Gosse (20:15):

I had Lego as well when I got, you know, when I got older. And I, I, I definitely did that. But, you know, it was, um, you know, I didn’t, I didn’t, there weren’t, there were no like karate lessons or, you know, I think they put me in soccer for like a half a year. Um, and, uh, I bet a hundred dollars Brad as a fan of Rush. False.

Sevan Matossian (20:35):

Okay. Um, my mom also put me in soccer. It was the only sport that I ever played. Growing up organized soccer. I was the worst kid on the team. I was the ki I cried every game cuz some other kid would push me down. Um, and after a year, uh, I think the last game of the season, I actually enjoyed it. And, and then my mom never signed me up for season two, so I went through like a whole season of just fucking hell. And then that was it.

Brad Gosse (21:01):

I never liked sports. It’s, it’s never been my thing. Just, uh, I can’t watch it. I can’t relate, you know. And, uh, I always find it interesting when some dude starts talking to me and just assumes I know why the Blue Jays traded so and so last month. Or <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (21:18):

Uh, no sports. How about ufc? It’s a little, it’s, it’s kind of fringe. Fringe. No,

Brad Gosse (21:23):

No. Uh, funny enough, I have a lot of UFC fighters as fans for some reason. Like, when I see all the verified accounts that follow me, it’s a lot of UFC fighters. Um, so, you know, um, it’s just not, it’s just not for me. Like, and, and, and I mean, if I think if I was gonna get into a sport, it, it would probably be, if it was gonna be anything, it would either be that or maybe basketball. But it’s just not, I don’t, I don’t know. I get bored watching competitive stuff.

Sevan Matossian (21:51):

Do you get anxious if you’re working on anything besides your, uh, besides working, Do you start to get anxious?

Brad Gosse (22:00):

No. No. Um, I mean, if I go lo if, if I’m, I’m pretty good at, like, if I have an idea, I, I, you know, I stop to put it down and, and that kind of allows me to just go back to the moment. So sometimes if, you know, like ideas, if I don’t put down my ideas, you know, I’m sure this happens to you, you have an idea and you’re like, Oh, I gotta rem I’m gonna remember that. And then a few hours later you’re like, Shit, what was that idea? I kind of, you know, I always wanna make sure I’m, I’m, if I have a joke idea, I write it down or a book idea, I put it in my notes and then I can just go back to whatever I’m doing,

Sevan Matossian (22:37):

Uh, a few hours, how about a few minutes I’ll come up with these ideas. I’ll be like, Okay, I need to make this video right now. But then I’ll do something else, like, wash my hands, go pee, kiss my kid, and the idea’s gone. I’m like, What?

Brad Gosse (22:48):

Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:50):

Uh, e even when I got out of the shower, uh, today, um, I, I ran to, uh, my notes for the show and I hand wrote one down in here. Uh, make sure you tell Brad that he can come on the sh by at the end of the show. Make sure you tell Brad he can come on and promote anything. Ever. Always.

Brad Gosse (23:05):

I like

Sevan Matossian (23:06):

That. So look, I got that off my chest. Uh, do you do any movement now? Do you do any training now? Do you sweat every day?

Brad Gosse (23:14):

I walk every day.

Sevan Matossian (23:15):


Brad Gosse (23:15):

Do? Yeah. Um,

Sevan Matossian (23:16):

Same route?

Brad Gosse (23:17):

Pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. We live in a nice area, so we walk, you know, the whole sort of, uh, you know, um, it’s a, it’s a wooded path usually. Um, but, but saying that, um, over the last couple of months I’ve been doing kettlebells a bit more. Look at you. Um, you know, uh, um, I’m realizing that like I’m turning, I’m turning 49. I don’t wanna be 50 years old and be sore. Um, you know, and, and, and I, and I’ve been, I’ve been conscious of some stuff like, you know, I’m six foot five,

Sevan Matossian (23:57):

No shit.

Brad Gosse (23:58):

Yeah. So, so, and I’m a, I’m a, you know, I’m, I’m putting on some weight and I see, like, I see video of myself on stage and I see this old man with a giant gut and I’m like, Who the hell is this guy? Right. You know? Right. And so I’m starting to become a bit more conscious of it. Like, do you know, maybe I need to get a personal trainer. Maybe I need to, like, I have a, I have a, you know, 45 pound kettlebell within, you know, arms reach right here. And so, you know, oftentimes, uh, I’ll be watching a, a, you know, a YouTube video or something and I’ll just pick it up and start, you know, doing stuff with it while I’m watching a video. So I’m, I’m be, I’m conscious of it, but I’m not, I’m not putting in the effort like I, like I put into my business.

Sevan Matossian (24:39):

Yeah. Uh, 45 sounds heavy. Uh, for a guy who doesn’t train ju just as a, just a, I mean, if I had one here, I would probably use like a 20 and I work out all the time, but I would probably keep like a 25 pound kettlebell. How’d you choose 45?

Brad Gosse (24:52):

I have a 25. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I use a 25 for single arm. I use the 45 for swings.

Sevan Matossian (24:57):

Yeah. I, I’m, I’m five five, I’m like, I’m, I’m like a little man compared to you. Like a little version of you.

Brad Gosse (25:09):


Sevan Matossian (25:10):

Six five. My goodness. Don’t laugh. Caleb, are you surprised? He’s so big, Caleb. Yeah, six five is huge.

Brad Gosse (25:18):

I, I, I include tall in my privilege stack.

Caleb Beaver (25:22):

I was wondering why it’s ceiling looks so close to his head now. It makes sense.

Sevan Matossian (25:26):

Uh, uh, what, what, what room is that? Are you underground? Are you, are you

Brad Gosse (25:31):

In a basement? Yeah, I’m a basement comedian.

Sevan Matossian (25:34):

How many hours a day do you spend down there?

Brad Gosse (25:37):

Eight. I put in a nine to five pretty much every day, or five days a week. My wife works nine to five, so I, I, I kind of follow her schedule. She takes a day off, I take a day off. She works, I work. Um,

Sevan Matossian (25:54):

Yeah. That’s nice. How did you guys meet?

Brad Gosse (25:58):

Um, we met in high school. We dated in high school, married, other people, got divorced and met up in our forties.

Sevan Matossian (26:08):

Did you like her in high school?

Brad Gosse (26:10):

Yeah, we, we dated for three years in high school.

Sevan Matossian (26:12):

Oh, okay. And then met and then separated. Got, Did you stay in contact with her during your marriage?

Brad Gosse (26:19):

A little bit. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (26:21):

Yep. Crazy. I, I, I have a similar, I have a similar story to that, but it wasn’t high school. But very early on in college, I met this girl. We dated for probably three years, then we parted ways and, and now I’m married to her, but I give myself credit for being with her for all those years. So like, when people are like, How long you been together on like 25 years. Nice. It, it took me five years to have intercourse with my wife. Wow. Five fucking years of courting. I wrote a screenplay. It’s called Five Years to Fornication. <laugh>. Crazy, right?

Brad Gosse (26:58):

<laugh>. What if it was disappointing after five years?

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

Oh, that would’ve sucked.

Brad Gosse (27:04):


Sevan Matossian (27:05):

Yeah. Put

Brad Gosse (27:06):

In all the work

Sevan Matossian (27:07):

And then it’s, I refu I refuse to imagine. Uh, it, it, it’s weird to, it’s, it’s, it is weird to be with her now knowing that that was the right one all along.

Brad Gosse (27:19):

It is weird,

Sevan Matossian (27:19):

Isn’t it? Like in a good way? Weird. But it’s weird. But you don’t have any more kids?

Brad Gosse (27:24):

I just No, no. Um, they’re, they’re her kids from a previous marriage.

Sevan Matossian (27:31):

So no kids of your own? No. Okay.

Brad Gosse (27:34):

No, but I consider these two my daughters, like, they’re awesome. And I, you know, I’ve been in there, I’ve been, we just got married, but I’ve been in their life for like four years. We’ve been living together for a while and,

Sevan Matossian (27:47):

And they know what you do.

Brad Gosse (27:49):

Oh yeah. Yeah. They’re, they’re, uh, they’re embarrassed of me. They don’t want me to come to their school cuz the kids know who I am and

Sevan Matossian (27:57):


Brad Gosse (27:59):

That’s me. I’m the Mike Hunt guy.

Sevan Matossian (28:02):

Is this guy based on you? No. No. Okay, Okay, okay. Okay.

Brad Gosse (28:08):

That was a, you know, that book, um, was book number 121, I think.

Sevan Matossian (28:13):


Brad Gosse (28:15):

And, uh, that book was a throwaway that was never supposed to be the runaway hit that it was. I mean, that was just, I’ve been, I’ve been sitting on that idea for 7, 16, 17 months.

Sevan Matossian (28:28):

Isn’t it weird that, that seems like your most obvious book and yet no one had done it on Planet Earth?

Brad Gosse (28:33):

I know, I, I, and it, like, I, I’m not joking when I say it was a throwaway. Like I, you know, I I sort of consider my stuff like punk rock children’s books, right? So it’s like, you know, they’ve, they’ve always kind of been a bit, you know, like they’re not nec I don’t wanna be political, but they’re social, you know, And, and, and, and I like to kind of agitate the social a little bit. The, you know, the, the race and the, and the gender and the, you know, the only fans and all, all the things in our pop culture. Um, but, um, for, for some reason the, you know, this like, this was kind of like the, you know, my, my cartoonist was like, Hey, I need some work. I’m like, uh, alright, draw these pictures. And the like, I never saw this book taking off. You know, I’ve, I’ve had other books run away, but this book ran away 10 times greater than any other book. Ran Away.

Sevan Matossian (29:29):

E even when you read it, even when it came out, you, you still didn’t, like you still didn’t know.

Brad Gosse (29:34):

I did, when I, when I read it on TikTok, they, they flagged it for community guidelines as do, and I appealed it and I waited two days and then they put it back up. And then when they put it back up, it was like, you know, first hour, a hundred thousand views, second hour, 300,000 views. I was like, okay, this is, now I see something happening. And it got up the next morning and it was like 1 million, 1.3 million or whatever, you know, now it’s like six and a half.

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