Sevan Matossian (00:01):
It is a good morning. Bam. We’re live.
Rickard Long (00:04):
We’re live. Beautiful.
Sevan Matossian (00:07):
It’s hard. Good morning.
Rickard Long (00:09):
Good morning. You have, you have 7:00 AM I have 4:00 PM uh, full day behind me.
Sevan Matossian (00:17):
I, when I went to bed last night, Yay. Only we weren’t texting. It was crazy. Cuz you were just getting up and I was going to sleep. I went to bed last night. Oh, I, I Do you have a YouTube window open? I think I, I’m hearing an echo. Maybe.
Rickard Long (00:35):
Uh, yes. Something went off. So, But it’s turned off.
Sevan Matossian (00:40):
Oh, you’re the best. Thank you.
Rickard Long (00:42):
How we go? Um, yeah. Pretty, pretty cool to be on this show. I’ve been following many of these episodes. So, But you’re, uh, you’re creating more content than I can follow
Sevan Matossian (00:55):
<laugh>. I understand. Hey, you think that’s a mistake? You think I should, You think, Do you think that’s a mistake?
Rickard Long (01:01):
Uh, no, I don’t think so. Uh,
Sevan Matossian (01:03):
I don’t think so either. But sometimes I’ll get into this debate with people and they think like, Hey, you should only be making enough stuff that everyone can watch. I’m like, I don’t know. I think my consistency’s more important.
Rickard Long (01:13):
I think so too. I think, um, I mean, everyone has different kind of, uh, let’s say frequency and they have different strategies and, um, I just think you will be able to touch much more people, uh, if you are very frequent in comparison to different, And I know you have, you have different, let’s say, topics, uh, different kind of guests. So would, it would be different if you had only affiliate, uh, <laugh> affiliate interviews, uh, every day. Uh, but you’re really jumping between all kind of characters, I would say. So,
Sevan Matossian (01:52):
Um, what if, um, do you remember when, uh, did you used to follow, Did you ever follow main site
Rickard Long (01:58):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>? Yes.
Sevan Matossian (02:01):
And, and, and it would be three on one off, right? The workouts. And I remember there was also that debate at CrossFit, like, well, hey, maybe we should give a workout every day. And then people can figure out when to be three on and when to be their one day off. And, uh, but, but they never did that. And I think that was smart. Just keep ev just, Hey, here it is. Keep it smooth. Keep it sailing. This is just the way it is.
Rickard Long (02:26):
Yeah. I mean, uh, I think, uh, again, for the affiliates that were following main site, uh, they were obviously they had to create their own workouts and, and so on. I know some affiliates did, uh, they did a pause for that day or a break. Um, but, uh, yeah, now we see like, uh, this new cap by buddy guys there. They, they’re programming every day because definitely, obviously need something every day. But, um, What
Sevan Matossian (02:59):
Does CAP stand for? Do that. That’s what, um, That’s the Austin Mallo. James Hobart.
Rickard Long (03:04):
Yeah, exactly. Uh, well cross what it stands for. Cross CrossFit affiliate programming. That would be my, my guess.
Sevan Matossian (03:13):
You are smart.
Rickard Long (03:14):
Yeah. It’s, uh, I think very hard.
Sevan Matossian (03:18):
You guys are staring at Ricard Long. He is the owner of Escapist CrossFit in Berlin. Um, I don’t know if you guys need to see a map, but it’s, it’s a little far away from me. He’s a little far away from me. I’m a little far away from him. And, uh, man, technology is absolutely nuts because completely somewhere else on the planet on a, on a third continent is Kayla Beaver.
Rickard Long (03:44):
I see a, I see a beaver.
Sevan Matossian (03:46):
Yes. <laugh> Three. Three continents. Three men.
Rickard Long (03:51):
Yeah. And he’s in, uh, where? Middle East.
Sevan Matossian (03:56):
Uh, we please, please, Recard top secret please.
Rickard Long (03:59):
Top secret. Okay. Please. Yeah. Uh, I
Sevan Matossian (04:04):
Saw, Sorry, go ahead. Were you gonna say something?
Rickard Long (04:07):
No, uh, I, I just know I have, I have the experience when I’ve been trying to find a way to, uh, have meetings with people in, on the West Coast. It’s far more difficult than the East Coast. Like, these extra three hours, they make it definitely harder. But, um, I’m happy we could make, make it,
Sevan Matossian (04:29):
Um, I don’t, we’ve never had problems scheduling people with people in Europe, but you know, where it gets squirrly is for some reason as Australia. Yeah. I think it’s because we cross the international dateline or something. Something gets weird always in Australia.
Rickard Long (04:41):
Yeah, I know. Yeah. It’s a, it’s a difficult one.
Sevan Matossian (04:44):
<laugh>, you’re, you’re nine hours ahead of me. You said it’s four there and it’s seven here. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So lemme do, Yeah. Nine hours. Uh, is it a good life in Berlin? Is Berlin a good place to live? Is it a good life?
Rickard Long (04:55):
Um, so yes. I, I would say yes and no. Berlin is, uh, this kind of, uh, poor and sexy city at the same time. So we have a lot of, uh, craziness going on. Um, but I, I always said to people, like, I, I’ve been living here now for, uh, 10, 11 years, Um, originally from Stockholm, from Sweden. So, uh, I moved here like a decade ago. And, um, because this, this town is kind of untouched or has been untouched and, um, uh, and has gone, gone through so many different changes, uh, like historically, it’s, it’s, it’s nuts. And, uh, yeah. There, there I am. So basically what we’re, uh, what I’ve been experiencing here is like this transition that I would say, like New York and Paris has been gone going through, um, where a lot of artists moved into this city because it was so sheep living here.
So they created a, a lot of art, uh, like crazy clubs. And we have super, it’s super liberal, uh, Right. Um, very open. We don’t have any closing times for anything <laugh>. So people, um, uh, people tend to go, uh, for clubs here, maybe a Saturday night, 12:00 PM or 12:00 AM and they get a home, uh, like a Monday, uh, noon from those parties. And, uh, so it’s very liberal, very much party, uh, party scene. Um, and, um, what happens is that when, when you have culture developing in these kind of countries, or, or sorry, in these cities, like, uh, in New York, Paris now Berlin, um, well, people with money also want to, you know, they want to spend their money, so they go somewhere where they feel like, Oh, there’s still some kind of life left there. There is, uh, culture here, there’s music, there is, uh, art, there is, you know, crazy apartments. So, um, that’s what’s been happening now. Last I would say, uh, it’s still happening, like a lot of people moving in now that have more money and it’s clo uh, like slowly upgrading the city. Um, but it’s still, the, the, the most I hate, Yeah,
Sevan Matossian (07:25):
I hate to say it. Um, it’s the only hope any cities have.
Rickard Long (07:31):
Sevan Matossian (07:32):
I I know some people are gonna hate me for saying that, but if you don’t, um, and I know gentrification’s a bad, a bad word for many people, but if the people don’t come in with money, it’s, it’s the only hope. It’s the only hope of sees that we, you know, you’re describing to me kind of like Portland, Oregon. It, um, you go 20 years ago, that’s a co a city we have here on the, on, on the West Coast of the United States. It’s pretty far north, so the weather’s not that good, but, but it’s beautiful up there. Uh, gentrification, The process process whereby the character of a poor urban area is changed by wealthier people moving in. The problem is, is I think poor is, uh, is not the right word. Um, is is not the correct word. They’re usually, they’re usually violent areas and they’re usually areas where no one would wanna raise their kids. And they’re usually areas, um, where it’s not safe to go out once the sun goes down, if, if we want to be
Rickard Long (08:27):
Accurate. Yeah. I mean, here it is pretty clear that the people that are pissed because of gentrification, they are usually in the scene of, uh, partying and taking drugs. Right. So they are, uh, they
Sevan Matossian (08:40):
Throw their needles on the ground, basically.
Rickard Long (08:42):
Yeah. But yeah,
Sevan Matossian (08:44):
For generalizing, if we’re generalizing,
Rickard Long (08:45):
Yeah. So, but this is kind of how, how it happens. So we have different parts of the city. One part of the city, uh, which which is called Prince Loberg or Prince, uh, it used to have a lot of parties, a lot of bars, a lot of everything going on, and all the students moved in there after the, the fall of the, the, the wall. Um, and students moved in there. They were having sheep housing, you know, partying, all the,
Sevan Matossian (09:12):
So that’s in Eastern Berlin. That was eastern Berlin.
Rickard Long (09:14):
That was Eastern Berlin. Okay. So entire eastern Berlin, You know, when, when, when the wall came down, Eastern Berlin became this, uh, you know, gold mine of sheep apartments, uh, crazy old, uh, cent, you know, uh, old century apartments, uh, yeah. Crazy looking, uh, good flats and, but no water <laugh> and, and no electricity in some parts. There you are. Um, and so people moved in there. They, they partied a lot. They had fun. And then suddenly, you know, they, they finished their studies. They, they met some dude, or they met some, some girl, and suddenly they got kids. And now is like the most populated, um, or highly dense, uh, uh, I would say most density of, of kids and families in that area. And they of course don’t want to have the party people there. So they kicked out all the bars and, and the clubs and whatever. And that’s gentrification, right?
Sevan Matossian (10:15):
The citizens matured. The citizens matured. Yeah. We want the park for their kids to play, Not a place to smoke. Dope.
Rickard Long (10:21):
Exactly. So that happened, and now it’s happening in different other parts of the, uh, city. Like we had, uh, new cologne or, uh, <inaudible>, which is where, uh, David Bowie and Iggy Pop and all these like rockstars, uh, used to hang around in the, um, seventies. Uh, this is like highly, or was highly densed, uh, by Turkish minorities and Arabs and so on. Still is. But, uh, because it is like that housing is very sheep. So a lot of students have moved in there and now they’re gentrifying those areas with, uh, um, yeah. Students. And they’re parting they’re, but they’re slowly growing up. So now companies are moving in, uh, startups are moving in and, um, yeah, so Berlin has like, you know, uh, developed into this kind of startup hub too. So usually we talk about San Francisco and New York, London and then Berlin, uh, as the like startup cities. Um, which I think, uh, like Berlin is so far behind these other cities. But, uh, anyways, um, there has been a lot of like startup, um, commotion here, I would say, because it was so sheep with housing sheep for companies to rent, sheep to get, uh, labor Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (11:43):
Everything. And, and when you get young kids in an area where it’s affordable and they’re innovative kids, you’ll see some amazing things. I’m gonna say some nice shit. Like, like that was the cool thing about Portland. There would be a, a shop there that only sold, let’s say pencils, <laugh>. You, wouldn’t you, no one else anywhere in the country could afford to do that because rent was so high. So you couldn’t come up with these innovative ideas. So you would go into a small store, it would be 600 square feet, and all they would sell were this wide variety of pencils and pencil sharpeners and maybe aprons that like you would wear while you draw. And it would be like these, or it would be this, an experimental pizza place, right? Pizzas that you’ve never seen before, made with a variety of dough or a place that just serves whiskey. You would start seeing these, um, really cool, um, young people who are super highly motivated, who, uh, want to experiment with, with their love or their craft, unfortunately. Um, when, when there’s young people who, who don’t have their hands kept busy, it descends into, uh, drugs and violence in, in, in crime.
Rickard Long (12:48):
Yeah. Uh, I’ve just been following Portland from, you know, from a distance. And I, I’m, uh,
Sevan Matossian (12:54):
Rickard Long (12:55):
So sad. I’m <laugh>. I’m a frequent follower of Brett, uh, Weinstein and his wife Heather. Uh, so they have been reporting pretty well, what’s happening over there. I don’t know if they speak. Yeah. Moved
Sevan Matossian (13:10):
By, speaking of Brett Weinstein, um, the, the, this, just on a total side note, the former general counsel of CrossFit Inc was Dale Cran, and he’s been on the show a couple times. And on last Monday he filmed, he was on the Brett Weinstein’s show. I don’t think it has aired yet. We’ll get Dale back on and talk to him about it. But Dale is the, um, head council of a class action suit with 900 Coast Guard, uh, members, United States Coast Guard members, uh, suing the United States government. And actually he’s kicking ass, basically saying, Hey, you gave us, you forced us to take, uh, an experimental drug. You mislabeled it, you called it a vaccine, it’s not a vaccine. And, and, and, and, uh, and it was experimental. And you basically lied to these soldiers. And I think they’re, I think he’s gonna win. I, I, Okay. He, I, I think he’s gonna win. It’s pretty crazy. They’re already telling the Navy seals that they don’t have to take the injection. I think that they’re, they’re backpedaling, which is okay. Yeah. Which is pretty cool.
Rickard Long (14:11):
Did you see the <laugh>, the, uh, video from the Dutch government there? Uh, they were questioning the, uh, was the CEO of Pfizer
Sevan Matossian (14:22):
Here. Um, here’s the thing with that here. I I agree. I agree with, this is so bizarre for me to say this. I don’t know if I’ve said this in over a year, but they, they never did say that it stopped transmission. I agree with them. All these posters saying they’re backpedaling, they’re not backpedaling, You weren’t reading the fine print. They never said that. They were sure that it stopped it. They were never sure that they said it stops transmission. Other people were saying it. The president of the United States was saying it <laugh>. Yeah. They were not people. It was, they were very clear. They would say shit like, We hope.
Rickard Long (15:03):
Sevan Matossian (15:04):
At least, at least, at least that’s that. And you can go back on my podcast and see the whole time. I’m like, Guys, they, they, they don’t, they’re not making these claims that you’re accusing them of making the claims. It’s, it’s the government officials.
Rickard Long (15:15):
Sevan Matossian (15:17):
That guy’s great, by the way. Where was that guy from? That was from the Netherlands, the gray hair distinguished gentleman.
Rickard Long (15:23):
Yeah. I, I, I don’t know him. Some, some Dutch politician. Yeah. And
Sevan Matossian (15:27):
She didn’t even hide it. She didn’t even, she was just kind of laugh. Yeah. Like,
Rickard Long (15:32):
Well, she said speed of speed of science.
Sevan Matossian (15:35):
Oh, that was bizarre. <laugh>. That was bizarre.
Rickard Long (15:39):
So, yeah, you can, I, I, I think whatever they, they’ve been careful with what they’ve been saying and not, but, um,
Sevan Matossian (15:48):
Are you familiar with the history of Germany? Ricard pretty good.
Rickard Long (15:53):
Uh, somehow, yes. Uh, I mean, I, I’m interested in history, but, uh, I’m no, no expert. But, um, I, I definitely have my brief overview of how everything works. And, uh, I said during, during the pandemic, uh, or during the lockdowns rather, uh, that,
Sevan Matossian (16:13):
Thank you for that clarification by the way,
Rickard Long (16:15):
<laugh>, that this is, uh, this gave me like a good insight in how the GDR was built and how GDR was
Sevan Matossian (16:28):
Possible. What’s gdr?
Rickard Long (16:30):
Uh, well, the old Eastern German part, uh, and German is ddr, but gdr, that’s, uh, the, uh, yeah, the German rep Republic, uh, de Demark, uh, demo. Sorry, I can’t talk today. De Yeah, there we go. Democratic the Republic. There we go. Um, and, uh, yeah, it collapsed, uh, 89 and, uh, got reunited 1990. Right. But during that time, uh, that’s where you had all these sps, right? All the spy stories happened in East Berlin and West Berlin. Um, and, uh, my question was always like, how is it possible for, uh, like this communist country to keep everyone, uh, silent? You know? Uh, they were capturing people, torturing people, um, Yeah. Um, kidnapping people. So how is it possible? Why, why didn’t people stand up for that? Like, why, why did people just go with it? And, um, I got very good insight on why and how, um, how effective that can be.
And this is not from like a conspiracy theory, uh, point of view. It’s just like when you have a big amount of people are in, it’s even a minority people very scared. And also, uh, telling people that if you don’t do something, you don’t care about other people. So back then in the, uh, socialist, communist, uh, part of Germany, they said, you know, if you say anything about bad about the decisions from the state, uh, you are, you are hurting the rest of the population, um, because the state just wants to well, of your, of the citizens. So we need to protect the citizens from the people that are thinking different or questioning, uh, the authorities. And if you are questioning the authorities, you’re al also questioning the rest of the, the, the people in this country, and you’re a threat. So obviously we saw this happening again. And, uh, I mean, p people have been kind of hating on me, uh, because I’m saying that, but they’re like, Hey, you’re, you’re exaggerating. And so on. I’m like, I’m not exaggerating. You’re not allowed to go out <laugh>. You’re not, you’re not going out. You’re not meeting people. You’re wearing a mask outside
Sevan Matossian (19:24):
The fact that they were hating on you for that. Yeah. Is the, is the proof of what you, of what exactly what you’re saying. You’re saying, Hey, people who think, who, who, who are questioning the system are being shut down, and that’s exactly what they want it to do to you. You question. And they’re saying No, they don’t be quiet. I mean, the irony in it.
Rickard Long (19:43):
Yeah. Yeah. So, and it’s still, I would say it’s still there. So, um, people are still scared, uh, about, you know, should I comply, should I not? Um, they’re kind of like, the go government is obviously slowly back peddling. And, um, what I also, also like always ask myself, because when I was talking to East German people, you know, uh, older ones, younger ones, and I was like, How was it in East Germany? You know, because you were not allowed to, you know, do everything. You were not allowed to travel. You were not allowed to, um, buy anything. You could, you, you know, western music was illegal and whatever. Um, but mostly people don’t want to talk about it. Like the east, the Eastern Germans, they’re like, Oh, yeah, well, it wasn’t, it wasn’t that bad. Like, uh, you know, and then they just want to move on.
And I can kind of see that happening now too. I’m like, you know, I, I’m still a bit, uh, I’m very upset about what they’ve been doing here. I still are doing, and, but people are kind of just, you know, okay, let’s turn a page and let’s go on. And I’m, I’m, I can, you know, in one way agree with that. Like, I don’t want to spend more time on this shit. We need to move on and do something better now. But at the same time, like there are some responsible people that should be, um, you know, at least confessing, uh, what they’ve been doing. And even though it was, you know, people make mistakes, then just say, I made a mistake and I’m sorry. You know? So, um,
Sevan Matossian (21:30):
There, there’s this, um, another, here’s where I was gonna go with that also, by the way, is that the, the, the Nazi party came out of liberals who turned socialists, who turned fascist. And it’s, it’s pretty obvious that those behaviors are happening right before our eyes in, in the United States of America at least. Um, re recently last week, the governor of California signed into law that we’re not allowed to get second opinions from doctors about Covid. So if you don’t, if a doctor tells you, speaks anywhere off the script of what the state tells you the protocols are for taking care of, um, uh, Covid 19, the coronavirus that that doctor can have his license taken away.
Yeah. This is, this is some really fucking bizarre shit. I seriously never thought that, that anything like this would happen in my lifetime. And yet, those are the same people who are saying that the people on the right, um, are the fascists and, and all of our violence is coming from the left also. And when I say all of it, I mean all of it, I’m talking, 99% of all the violence in our cities is, is coming from the left. And the, in the socialist movement that is becoming more, that is open, that’s openly racist by, by the way, for all of those people in Jim in Germany who are liberal. Our left hates you. We hate all the left hates all of Europe. They hate you because of the color of your skin. We have to know that.
Rickard Long (23:01):
Well, it’s the same. I mean, it’s the same here. It’s fucking,
Sevan Matossian (23:04):
It’s fucking bizarre. It, it, it’s, it’s, uh, it’s a trip.
Rickard Long (23:08):
Yeah. No, it’s the same here. So it, uh, I would say it’s, uh, um,
Sevan Matossian (23:14):
Our city port, our city Portland was filled with Black Lives Matter signs filled. And yet it’s this, it’s the least amount of people with melanated skin of any major city in the United States.
Rickard Long (23:26):
Yeah. I mean, yeah. Uh, I, I I I, I like to refer to, um, Sam Harris, the, uh, he, he puts his very good and it’s, you know, bad idea.
Sevan Matossian (23:39):
You know, Sam Harris was pro, pro-vaccine, by the way, which is completely fucking undermines everything. It’s the same thing with the guy, the, uh, the stoic guy was pro, pro-vaccine.
Rickard Long (23:49):
Sevan Matossian (23:49):
Which shows, which shows a lack of cognitive horsepower, which shows the ability to not not think for yourself.
Rickard Long (23:57):
Uh, I was pretty surprised with that, with Sam Harris, but I, I also think it’s, I think that is the good thing that it also shows that, you know, uh, cuz I, I, I truly think, uh, Samara is one of the best thinkers out there. Um, but just because you’re a good thinker, just like you and me, whatever, it doesn’t mean that we have the answers on everything. Right. So, so that
Sevan Matossian (24:23):
Was hard for me to process. Hold on a second. Seon, you don’t have the answer for everything. Okay. <laugh>
Rickard Long (24:29):
Sevan Matossian (24:29):
Yeah. Caleb, uh, can we talk, You’re gonna have to walk me through that after the show’s over
Rickard Long (24:34):
<laugh>. Uh, but yeah, basically that, that is the thing, right? So we, um, I, I, I think he, he has a very good thing he says, and is that bad ideas, uh, matter, you know, um, meaning if you have bad ideas and you spread bad, bad ideas, they can be very harm, harmful. And, uh, even good ideas can be harmful. Because again, we come down to this like, um, uh, which is kind of the Orwellian argument and everything is that you can, you can do so much thing for the good that you start hurting people, if that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So, so you, we need to get everyone training, We need everyone to do CrossFit, Right? And, uh, if, uh, and we can go so, so hard on that line that we start, uh, you know, um, hunting people that are not doing it because they need to take care about their health. And, uh, yeah. And then we start forcing people and then we throw them into camps if they don’t follow the CrossFit rule, whatever. Um, so
Sevan Matossian (25:50):
I, I would never, I would never propose that we take o obese people, let’s, I’ll be even more clear. I would never take people that are addicted to refined carbohydrates and, and want to throw them all in jail. And yet it would be so easy to argue that they’re the big, the biggest threat to human civilization. Yeah. It would be so easy to argue that point.
Rickard Long (26:11):
Yeah. Um, because again, like it, uh, we’re, we are all good and bad at the same time. And, uh, I, um, that’s why we always have to re collaborate where we are. And I know like when, if we take the Panda pandemic when it started, or the, uh, the lockdown started, uh, and before that, cuz I was following Sam Harris pretty much, and when he came, um, out with this story about, uh, about, uh, Covid and everything, I was like, Okay, Sam Harris usually does his research very well. And, and he was out there very early, and I was like, Okay, Sam Harris knows something. I don’t know. Uh, I didn’t know, didn’t know anything. I didn’t know any research, any stats, anything. So I’m like, Okay, Sam is, is a good person. He usually knows everything he’s talking about. And then, uh, then, you know, you have to, uh, always reevaluate that. And, uh, in this case, like Sam Harris, uh, I, I obviously came to the conclusion he, he’s not having right on this point. And, uh, and that’s, that’s it. Like, you know, uh, I don’t have to throw in under the bus, uh, like everything he said under the bus because it’s just one point. And, uh, same thing here. He can also reevaluate and say something else, you know, maybe in one ear and say like, Hey, I was totally off. Did
Sevan Matossian (27:45):
He, did he, uh, Ricard? Did he backpedal?
Rickard Long (27:48):
I don’t know. I thought
Sevan Matossian (27:49):
Back pedal. I mean, did he ask, like, like, we had Trump and Biden both in office, and neither of those men said, Hey, uh, diet and exercise is your greatest fight, um, against Covid 19. Still to this day, no one in a profound leadership position has said that a matter of fact, the leader of the UK said the exact opposite. It’s too hard to change your diet and work out, just get the shot <laugh>. And, and I, I want, I, I, I wanna agree with you, and I wanna be compassionate, but there’s this presupposition that so many people that I talk to build their whole thought process up. When they look back at the history of what happened with the, with the lockdowns, they say, Well, nobody knew. And then from there, they build out their argument, Well, that’s not true. You’re building now what? You’re gonna spew on me for the whole next hours that no one knew because you’re using that, not you, but you’re using that to defend your, your ignorance. And my particular thing with Sam Harris that he said, and I don’t follow him very closely, but he said it was irresponsible what Joe Rogan did. And, and, and by saying that he did, he was doing the same thing.
Rickard Long (28:50):
Sevan Matossian (28:51):
He was, he was being irresponsible. And I, it, it’s just, but you’re right. I, I think it’s tricky. I, I think if I’m hearing you right, you’re saying we need to move forward, but I also feel like some things have been done that need to be undone. Someone someone needs to, there needs to be the same way. They stopped littering in the fifties in the United States. They started a massive campaign in the United States. There needs to be a massive campaign that says that you, you can go to escape a CrossFit in Berlin and 86% of the, the, the or, and that 92% of the reasons why people die in Germany, you can eliminate those things by attending Ricard Long’s Gym in escapist at Escap as CrossFit. Someone needs to just, there needs to be a movement that explains that. Yeah. And those 92% of things are chronic disease that fall under this whole bucket, you know? Mm.
Rickard Long (29:44):
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. No, I, I, I, I,
Sevan Matossian (29:47):
We don’t have to force them, but the information needs to be there and scream from the mountaintops.
Rickard Long (29:52):
Sevan Matossian (29:53):
You care about the people,
Rickard Long (29:55):
I mean, I, I, yeah, exactly. That was the one I <laugh>. Uh,
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