#616 – Gary Roberts | Killing The Fat Man 2.0

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Ba, we’re live three minutes early, just like that. Eric Wise, vindicate, Are you selling shirts at the Crash Crucible? I know Gabe’s there from Paper Street. He’s got CEO shirts. Good morning, Travis, Eric, Bruce, Chris Cora Dal.

Sevan Matossian (00:29):

Oh, that does, that. Looks like he’s not there. Look it, he got a sad face. I bet you he’s doing something with his kids though. I bet you he’s doing something with his kids. Give him a pass. I give him a pass. Um, Travis is a great dude. Uh, all the people, uh, who by the way, who, um, work with me from, uh, support, support the podcast from Sarah Cox, Gabe Travis, uh, none of those people. And there’s been a shitload of other people who’ve worked with the podcast too. None of those people ever say, uh, to me, I can’t. Or it’s crazy how accommodating everyone is. Crazy. I didn’t front the money for those shirts. I just asked Sarah Cox if she wanted to do it. She said, Absolutely. I don’t, I don’t, I don’t pay Gabe anything from Paper Street Coffee to uh, to, to hand out the shirts or facilitate making sure JR gets them. That shit’s a pain in the ass. Like if I’m walking somewhere to get a cup of coffee and someone’s like, Will you get me a cup? I’m like, No. Cause I don’t wanna carry it when I walk back. When I walk back, I wanna be chill. Let my loose free arms swing and drink my coffee with my own hand. Am I getting you a coffee? You want a coffee? Go get one yourself.

Sevan Matossian (01:42):

And, and, and, and so I know it’s a pain when I ask Gabe to do that. Will you make sure the shirts get there? We make sure JR gets them. We make sure the athletes get them the hundred shirts that’s left over. Can you make sure those go to the right? People have an idea for his shirt. And Travis within a week sends me a one off. It’s fucking cool. So cool. Everyone’s, everyone’s great. I’m sorry for anyone I’m leaving out. And of course then there’s the team. All the other people, Jim McDonald, Will Branstetter Caleb, uh, we’re a year into it. Everyone’s working hard and we’re still winging it. It’s still like, just, it’s a competition to see who can work the hardest. It’s fucking cool. What’s up dude?

Sevan Matossian (02:23):

I wanna, um, Okay. Hi. Before Gary comes on, he’ll probably come on in the middle of this little rant. I’m gonna go on. But I wanna tell you guys something about my kids, and I wanna tell you something about mental illness, and I wanna tell you something about being honest with yourself. First, I wanna show you the post I made over here. Um, I have a, a new Instagram account that’s kind of just a, uh, I’m really, really proud of it. Sorry. It’s a, uh, YouTube account. It’s called Parenting, uh, Consulting The Capable Child. I’m so proud of it. And, uh, and that’s not a word I usually, uh, use, but I put this out the other day. This, I put out two to three videos every day. I try to keep them all under a minute. And yeah, Caleb bi looking jacked before he left, he started getting jacked a little bit. He started, he started leaning out and yeah, I agree. Some

Sevan Matossian (03:09):

Beat piece of shit. Right? Right,

Sevan Matossian (03:12):

Right. That too. Um, uh, so, uh, here we go. Um, this is the video I put out, uh, yesterday. This is my, uh, my son Joseph and I, we went to, uh, Starbucks

Sevan Matossian (03:26):

Used his shirt when he grabbed the handle of

Sevan Matossian (03:28):

The door. Yeah. Let me see if I can reset it here

Sevan Matossian (03:31):

To open. See that, uh, door? You guys hear this right there? I just watched a, uh, I don’t know, 16 year old healthy young man use his shirt when he grabbed the handle of the door to open the door. Uh, if you have mental illnesses like that, hide that shit from your kids, you don’t want your kids picking up post gun habits. That’s just, that’s, uh,

Sevan Matossian (04:03):

I saw a healthy 16 year old boy grab the door handle of a, uh, Starbucks of door that

Sevan Matossian (04:08):

I’m sharing this with you, but the truth, Oh,

Sevan Matossian (04:11):

Shoot. I wonder if I can shoot this. Oh, yeah. And then, okay, click the comments. And, and I, and I made a video of it and I said, Hey, if you have mental health issues like that, like you can’t grab the handle of a Starbucks door and open it, um, without grabbing your t-shirt to open the door, that that’s a mental health issue. You have serious problems. I don’t know if they’re serious. Um, but, but it’s, it’s a problem. It’s not normal. And you should, uh, hide that shit from your kids. Like, suck it up and just grab the handle. I want you to read, I want you to read the, uh, the comments here. I won’t wanna read them to you. I’ve seen too many people walk outta the bathroom without washing their hands to be convinced that people aren’t nasty. Sorry. Presupposition. Presupposition.

Sevan Matossian (04:50):

What’s the presupposition there? That, that somehow not washing your hands after you go to the bathroom is nasty. Cool. Okay. Look, 12, 12 likes, man, just wanted to not get a virus, a presupposition there. That, that, that the virus is, is that viruses are somehow bad, right? Uh, these are all brainwashed people. But, but this is, this is the thing. You can have mental illnesses and still be humble enough to like work on ’em. We all got ’em. I got ’em. You got ’em. I don’t know if we all got ’em. I don’t mean to be that person, but everyone has issues they need to work on. But you can’t work on them unless you admit you got them. You literally are talking about it in front of your kid. I, I don’t, Someone would have to explain to me, Oh, you’re, you’re right. You’re welcome.

Sevan Matossian (05:30):

I am. Yeah. Uh, that’s exactly why I’m not having kids. Uh, okay. This man isn’t very bright. He’s talking about me. Most likely the kid wanted to be sanitary and not touch the door. Making this assumption that not touching the door and not touching where other people touch somehow keeps you sanitary. Making the assumption that somehow being sanitary, sanitary is the best thing. What? Like this lady, I’d have to read into what she’s saying. Ha. I’d have to read into what she’s saying. Um, how is being concerned about germs a bad thing? Well, if you’re preoccupied with it, it’s in, in to the point where it’s actually hurting you. It’s called a mental health issue. If you can’t do normal risk assessment, I saw somewhere, I have no idea if this is true. I have no idea if this is true, but just bear with me.

Sevan Matossian (06:20):

The spirit of what it’s saying is true. If you wear a mask to protect yourself, I read somewhere that once you touched the mask four times in less than an hour, you’ve actually brought more germs to your mouth. And the mask would protect you from, on average on some sort of aggregate of getting sick. Have you ever seen anyone wear a mask for an hour without touching at four times the fuck you have? That means the mask is actually causing you more problems of what I said is true. Uh, you don’t know. He might be more susceptible to getting sick and being cautious is never a bad thing. Being cautious is never a bad thing. Wow. Wow. Imagine that life. Like those are the people who would say about the CrossFit game. Safety first. No. No. Not safety first. Safety not safety first.

Caleb Beaver (07:06):

Think about the safety people for the NFL from what happened to that quarterback the other day. Safety is not first.

Sevan Matossian (07:14):

Uh, and, and it’s, and you can’t live your life like that. I mean, this is just all, it’s, it’s crazy. I had to look up the word dog whistle. This isn’t a dog whistle, but I’ll use the word term like dog whistle. It’s like all the people with mental health came out like moths. Hi Gary. Like moths to the light. We are not interacting with feces, residue, urine, blood center. Yes, you are. You’re breathing it in everywhere you go all day, every day. Actually you are. There’s no running from it. Laugh. How many you already on that shirt? Pardon me? Say that again Caleb.

Caleb Beaver (07:46):

I said, think about how many germs are already on that shirt.

Sevan Matossian (07:48):

Oh yeah. Right. Laugh my fucking ass off. What the fuck is wrong with you guys? I have gloves just to pump gas. Now. Now, here’s what’s interesting about that, that I might, uh, if, if you’re avoiding wanting to touch the gas that I might give you, but the germs from your fellow man, is she barefooted? First of all, it’s a, he, uh, probably should take your own advice with your lack of compassion. So, so now the script’s been flipped. I’m offering free advice about mental health, but I have a lack of compassion somehow. I’m looking out for kids and spreading mental illness to them. But I have a lack of compan. I’m totally fine with that dude doing that. I’m do. I actually am happy you do that. I actually thought, you know what I’m gonna do today? I’m gonna spend a few minutes with Gary Roberts after the show, and we’re gonna invent something that’s like an uhoh.

Sevan Matossian (08:39):

I have a bad echo. Is that you Gary? That just brought that on to me? I just muted Gary. Let’s see if it goes away. Oh yeah, yeah. When I muted, Gary went away. Um, Gary and I are gonna invent a napkin that you carry around with you that any time you touch something that you don’t really wanna touch, you pull one out and you grab it. And we’re gonna become so rich and they’re gonna be floating all over the ocean. But it’s okay Gary, and I’ll be rich. Uh oh. Gary, I’m getting your echo again. You motherfucker, your ass. Uh, no. Your poor parenting simply simple acts that you disregard may, uh, may wanna avoid serious illness. Hey, I shouldn’t have even driven to Starbucks, uh, because that would’ve avoided a severe accident. I shouldn’t have walked across the parking lot with my kid. I shouldn’t have carried my kid across the parking lot. What if I would’ve fainted and dropped my kid? I mean, shut the fuck up.

Sevan Matossian (09:32):

And with that, you have to see this, this is, this is my boy dancing the other day, Barefoot. Oh, you can’t see it. Hold on, hold on it. I mean, people are, I’ll just tell you this. My kids were born on a living room floor. They didn’t bathe for months. All three of them, they breastfed within minutes of coming out of the fucking vagina. All the literature says you don’t bathe your kid because, um, right when your kid’s born is, I think it’s the hypothalamus is taking in as much information as it can as it comes in. And that’s when you’re building your most, uh, robust and baseline for your immune system. And it’s getting all of that stuff from the mom as it comes out of the vagina. Some fucking amazing unexplainable shit that we’re not fully aware of is happening at that point. Baby comes out, stays attached to the umbilical cord for, I don’t know, 30 minutes, an hour. You cut it. It’s, it’s already breastfeeding while it’s still attached to the umbilical cord.

Sevan Matossian (10:43):

Goes to bed with mama that night. You wake up in the morning, you can’t even tell all the blood and glue and shit. Goo and shit’s gone. It stays with mama for the first month. You don’t bathe it. Nothing. You leave your child barefoot. You leave your child barefoot. Let him dance at the beach to uh, to the fucking bgs. Yeah. Then dance to the bgs. That’s right. I said it once you to look, You have a dog. My kid’s barefoot down here, right hand corner. Kids are barefoot at a, at a CrossFit event, uh, supporting, uh, Kelly Clark. Kids are barefoot playing the guitar in the garage. Kids are barefoot striking.

Sevan Matossian (11:37):

Kids are barefoot. Kids are barefoot running sprints. When my, when my friends say we, uh, oh, sorry. We can’t, um, our kids have, uh, covid, we can’t come over. We have co do you know what we say? It doesn’t matter. As Hiller would say, it doesn’t matter at the trampoline park barefoot, hundreds of other kids. My kids live free from all of that shit. All of that mental illness. Because, because, because I mean, they’re what the liver king wishes he was. My kids don’t wake up in the morning and have a fucking bagel with cream cheese. I can’t hear you. Sorry Gary, but you’re smiling so I’m gonna know. You must be saying nice. Something nice. I’m, I’m mute you. Hi.

Gary Roberts (12:31):

I came in late. I don’t know what you’re saying, bro. I don’t, I’m

Sevan Matossian (12:35):

Just, I I’m just, so I, I knew I’m, I’m, uh, I’m, I’m, I made a post the other day on my parenting consulting thing, like, Hey, don’t give your kid your mental illnesses. All people have to say is, this is the thing. You’re right, I do have that mental illness. I’m paranoid about germs to the point that I’m actually hurting myself and my kids. My, my course correction of grabbing a shirt and grabbing a handle. The severity. I know. And, and this could be a whole show and I could have a psychiatrist on, but the severity of prec, the, the, the out of balance you are, that you have a preoccupation with grabbing your shirt to grab a handle and what you’re actually missing and what you could be getting from the world in terms of health is actually outta balance. Your cure is more damage than the efforts to be better and protect yourself. Can I say something? Yes, please.

Gary Roberts (13:21):

It’s funny you say that because my kid has been in the gym, My baby, I took her out of the, uh, I took her out of the little bouncy chair cuz she’s crawling around and I put her in this little pen, but she’s on the gym floor and, uh, you know, she’s rolling around gra I put all her toys on the floor and everyone’s just like, Wow, cleanly. I’m like, Hey. She, she’s building her immunity. She’s rolling in the dirt on the gym. And anyway, so I don’t, it doesn’t face me at all. I,

Sevan Matossian (13:55):

I, I wanted to, I wanted to say this as nice as possible. Uh, I don’t even know if people got the point, but, um, here, I, I posted this the other day. So this is Avi barefoot at the gym, uh, team to fungo while, um, Hailey does, uh, pullups. Here’s Berkeley, California. The baby’s crawling just on a city street. Uh, it’s, um, barefoot. This, this is the way, um, I mean, you gotta check the ground for shit broken glass needles. But dude, there, there’s crazy shit on the ground there. There’s crazy shit on the ground there.

Gary Roberts (14:33):

I mean,

Sevan Matossian (14:34):

I take care of your kid, Feed your kid, right? Breastfeed them. Let them be born right? Don’t let them be born onto Clorox sheets if you can. Don’t give them, uh, um, uh, uh, formula with, uh, with uh, filled with um, high fructose corn syrup, but seon, some people can’t. Blah, blah blah. Yeah, yeah. Then fine. Then you belong on YouTube making comments that argue your limitations. That’s not what this show is about. Go ahead and argue all the limitations. You want those people instead of being like, You’re right, I have a mental illness. Thanks for pointing it out to me. I’m gonna try to make sure I don’t pass it on to my kid. They’re defending their mental illness. I drink a drive all the time. I’ve never been in an accident. It’s fine for me.

Sevan Matossian (15:19):

How about just a thank you. It was so great. Yesterday, um, yesterday my kids had this incident where one of my kids punched the other kid in the shower. And there’s no pun, there’s no horseplay in the shower. So I, I, dr I turned the shower off, dried the kid off, took him to the, uh, garage and I made him, I told him I was gonna make him do a hundred burpees. He didn’t cry. So after 20 burpees, I just had him throw a ball right and left handed at a wall like this, taking turns. It was Joseph. And, but he had to catch him and he loved it. And when he was done, I gave him three chocolate covered raisins and I gave them to the other boys too. And my son Joseph said, Why do they get it? They didn’t do anything. And I said, Hey, can you flip the script on that? And be like, Awesome, you guys get chocolate raisins too. I’m so happy for you. And they all started laughing, but he got it trying to save my kid from having the, that’s shit that I would say. I don’t want him to have my mental illness.

Gary Roberts (16:26):

What’s up bro? Let’s get rolling. My kid’s gonna wake up at

Sevan Matossian (16:29):

Some point. Okay. Gary Roberts, uh, um, uh, has been waiting for 16 minutes cuz I told him to come on promptly at 7:00 AM Pacific Standard time. And he did. And I’ve been just a horrible host and, uh, Hi Gary. Gary is a, um, long time friend. Um, we met, uh, do filming arm wrestling tournaments, I don’t know, 20 years ago, let’s say 17 years ago. And, um, he is a, uh, avid CrossFitter and uh, he was kind enough to when he first started CrossFit to let me, uh, film a series about him called Killing the Fat Man. Most popular non-game series. As you guys have heard me say many times in the history of CrossFit Inc. If you, it’s a 13 part series and it’s very, very, very intimate. And it was very generous of Gary to allow us into his life. Then there was a season two and now Gary is, um, if you have, if you don’t know some of the things that happened to Gary, I’ll tell you in a nutshell, he basically lost a shit ton of weight.

Sevan Matossian (17:23):

He had a bunch of skin removed on, on the front of his body. When that skin was removed, a bunch of cells were removed. That store fat, you only have a finite number of those. When he gained weight back, the weight got started going to his organs instead of the safer places. Titties, heart, liver. What? Yeah. And started attaching to his organs the fat start attaching to his organs. And, um, he, that made him nervous. That’s not good cuz he didn’t have the proper places to store the fat safely like the rest of us tubs do. It started to cuz he had it cut off and removed. Yes sir. Now, so it’s been more important for him ever to uh, lose weight. And I said, Hey, you wanna try this trt? And Gary’s 50. I know he doesn’t look it

Gary Roberts (18:10):

November 21st, bro. That’s

Sevan Matossian (18:11):

My Dave, Dave Castro came to my house yesterday and he, I opened the front gate and I’m like, Hey dude, what’s up? He goes, Fuck you look old

Caleb Beaver (18:19):


Sevan Matossian (18:21):

We’re this. And then he said, and then he said, How do I look? I said, You look fucking great. You look handsome. He goes, Yeah, I just got a haircut.

Caleb Beaver (18:28):

<laugh>. I think Dave’s an alien. He doesn an age.

Sevan Matossian (18:36):

You guys don’t have the skin that I, the thickness of skin that it requires to be me Is

Caleb Beaver (18:44):


Sevan Matossian (18:45):

Actually I cry a lot at night. Um, Gary. So Gary, I I hook Garrett with California hormones. Oh yeah. Look at you. Wow. You’re skinny there. Look how dark Dave is. Dave looks like a fucking gang banger. That’s a great photo dude. That is a Wow. Wow. Good job Caleb. Holy shit. Wow. How many years ago is that?

Gary Roberts (19:11):

Uh, 10. 10 years.

Sevan Matossian (19:16):

Gary, what do you think about Maya Flores out of the south in Texas? You know who that is?

Gary Roberts (19:22):

No idea.

Sevan Matossian (19:22):

Okay. Uh, she’s the congresswoman who is the immigrant. She used to be a field worker and she

Gary Roberts (19:32):

Ran, I watched the news, bro.

Sevan Matossian (19:34):

Oh, you’re a good

Gary Roberts (19:34):

Dude. I didn’t find out. The queen died for like three days.

Sevan Matossian (19:37):

Oh, you’re living a good life. Fuck, you’re living a good life. I’m just investing. Where are you? Are you in the garage?

Gary Roberts (19:43):

Yeah. Because you chose 7:00 AM I had to be out of the house, but I I’m trying to organize my little man space garage gym. Yeah. Uh, so, uh, you helped me inspire me to get some stuff moved around to get my ultimate little studio man space garage gym put together.

Sevan Matossian (20:02):

And you’re on the West Coast, so it’s 7:16 AM for you too.

Gary Roberts (20:05):

Yes sir. Why are

Sevan Matossian (20:07):

You so calm? No wonder you’re, is that your wife calling

Gary Roberts (20:11):

You online at 7:00 AM

Sevan Matossian (20:12):

Is that your wife calling you or is that Caleb’s saying someone died in the room behind Caleb?

Gary Roberts (20:17):

No, nobody’s calling.

Caleb Beaver (20:18):

Probably somebody died.

Sevan Matossian (20:19):

Oh, okay. So, so, so Gary got his blood levels checked and his testosterone was at,

Gary Roberts (20:30):

They said it was low. I I don’t know them. I ran, I looked at the numbers. They said it was low. I trusted that that’s,

Sevan Matossian (20:39):

It was low. Gary refuses to tell us his numbers, which is because it was like seven. But he doesn’t want to tell us. That’s fine. That’s okay. I I don’t blame him for that. That’s why I don’t wanna get tested either. Cause I don’t wanna tell you my numbers.

Gary Roberts (20:51):

I mean, I, I don’t even know, I I gotta look at the email

Sevan Matossian (20:57):

Once again. Gary refuses to tell us because, uh, it’s so low. It’s negative 12. This shows already more awkward than Hailey Adams. No it’s not. I’m just joking cuz Gary’s my buddy and, and we’re just, uh, the American Urology Association identifies low blood testosterone as less than 300 nanos. I bet you I’m negative. I don’t God really a erectile dysfunction. I, I suspect I have really low t but that fucking, that fucking thing has a mind of its own still.

Gary Roberts (21:34):

<laugh>, speaking of this testosterone business is giving me morning woods

Sevan Matossian (21:42):


Gary Roberts (21:42):


Sevan Matossian (21:42):

Seriously? Seriously.

Gary Roberts (21:44):

Yeah. Yeah. Every day.

Sevan Matossian (21:46):

How long have you been doing it?

Gary Roberts (21:49):

Uh, it’s like almost five, four and a half months now.

Sevan Matossian (21:58):


Gary Roberts (21:59):


Sevan Matossian (22:00):

Holy shit. I can’t believe it’s been that long. I I seriously thought you were gonna say four and a half weeks.

Gary Roberts (22:06):


Sevan Matossian (22:08):

Tell so, so tell me some of the other things you noticed. So, Morning wood.

Gary Roberts (22:12):

What? Hold on, hold on. You, you’re jumping ahead of the,

Sevan Matossian (22:15):


Gary Roberts (22:15):

Go ahead. You’re jumping ahead of my timeline.

Sevan Matossian (22:17):

Okay. Please take over. Tell me some stuff.

Gary Roberts (22:21):

Well, I have that as Zach three cuz I have questions, but we have to, we have to start off, we have to start off with, I need you to read me a message.

Sevan Matossian (22:32):

Oh, okay. Yes. So I can’t read that to you on the air because I never asked her if I could read it on the air. And I have a strict policy, but I will tell you this. A few days ago I received a, this is fucking, I haven’t told you this kid, by the way, kid. Can we send, um, afterwards, if can, uh, you and I talk about sending Gary a shitload of these shirts For sure. Your actual large Gary?

Gary Roberts (22:55):

Uh, yes, please.

Sevan Matossian (22:56):

Um, so we’ll send him like one in every color of the sweatshirt. The whole, he gets the whole kit in caboodle. Um, definitely he’ll rock, he’ll rock that shit. Um, maybe we should send him an extra large first and make sure Sure. It fits. Okay.

Gary Roberts (23:09):

Can I set it up first?

Sevan Matossian (23:10):

Please? Please.

Gary Roberts (23:11):

Okay. So here’s the thing.

Sevan Matossian (23:15):

I received a DM from his wife, people, it was very unsettling,

Gary Roberts (23:19):

<laugh>. Here’s the thing. You and I have known each other since 2003.

Sevan Matossian (23:24):

So, and she wasn’t telling me I was hot and that she wanted me as a side piece. It was nothing like that. So let’s just squash that. All those people got excited about that

Gary Roberts (23:31):

Almost 20 years. I’ve known my wife five years. And try as I might to explain what you’ve meant to me in my life and how killing the fat man has brought us together. That’s like an our thing. You know, it’s, if you, anyone who’s watching watched the last time we run, I explain what you meant to me. You know, I, I I can’t get more. I mean, you’re very important to me. Sev and what the impact you? I mean, it’s Evan CrossFit, Coach Glassman Stoen, all of that has had an impact on my life where it’s totally changed the path and direction that my life has gone. But you personally are the, the foundation of like, literally, I can point it to my, my two beautiful babies that I have right now, two and a half year old Oden and Cora Josephine. Seven months. I wouldn’t have these babies without you in my life or without killing the fat man.

Gary Roberts (24:37):

So killing the fat man has been a profound impact and importance. And my wife knows this. However, during the pandemic when I was starting to slack, she was like, Hey, go back to CrossFit. And you know, procrastination took over and I did not, I kept starting and stopping and starting and stopping anyway. So from the get go when you returned to my life and you’re like, we, we, we did not talk for a while since, uh, I left CrossFit and you know, everyone’s doing their own thing. Totally understandable. All good. Never once had a problem. Like I knew one day I go through Santa Cruz, I probably sit down and, and hang out with you and your family and catch up. But you called and you’re like, Hey, let’s do, let’s get you, I told you my health issues and you’re like, let’s do it again. And just from that second, my wife was like, Oh, I see, you know, I’ve expressed concern, but seven on calls and you jump. And I’m like, I, I can’t, you know, I let’s not make a big dish issue of it. You knew I was gonna start. It just took a little fire and, you know, so seven comes back

Sevan Matossian (26:01):

To, to be fair, that’s, that’s not a cool way to couch it by the way of the way she couched. That’s not cool. And there were other things involved too. You got free blood work, you got free testosterone and, and there’s also pay for making the series,

Gary Roberts (26:13):

Right? So,

Sevan Matossian (26:14):

So there’s a whole, and you, and the last two times you lost weight. It was, it was with, um, me in your life. Not that I did any of the fucking work, but, but it, it’s kind of like, um, it brings a lot of pieces back. Obviously the benefits all go to, to her and her fam and your family and the kids. But yeah, I, I that’s, I think she just, I think she just jumped. I think she couched that totally wrong. That has, Okay, so that’s totally misplaced. Um,

Gary Roberts (26:41):

Here’s the thing. Here’s the thing thing. Yeah. And I have,

Sevan Matossian (26:46):

I I am the father of Gary’s kids. That is, that’s, that’s correct. I

Gary Roberts (26:49):


Sevan Matossian (26:50):

Uh, Gary keeps wondering why they’re only this tall. Gary, how tall are you?

Gary Roberts (26:55):

I’m 6 6 1.

Sevan Matossian (26:58):

Gary, do you have notes for this show?

Gary Roberts (27:00):

Yes, I do.

Sevan Matossian (27:01):

Fuck man. You, you’re, you’ve turned into an adult.

Gary Roberts (27:04):

Hold on, I have to push record again.

Sevan Matossian (27:07):

I am um, I am not coming out today, Bruce, but I appreciate the, um, I appreciate you leaving the entryway in case I did want to come out. Thank you.

Gary Roberts (27:16):

Okay. I have, I’ve been scared to broach the subject with you, but because I knew it was an issue with my wife, this whole, like, I I was just gonna say, it’s kind of a jealousy thing with the killing the fat man.

Sevan Matossian (27:33):

I’ve never showered with you or been anywhere naked with you have I?

Gary Roberts (27:38):

Anyway, so when a testosterone came up, she was not a hundred percent on board with me doing it.

Sevan Matossian (27:47):

I understand there

Gary Roberts (27:48):

Was drama behind the scenes, but I was trying to kind of suppress that drama because it, I mean there was, it’s just to be frank where this is, this is getting crazy. There was a conversation where she’s like, Don’t do it. And I said, I already told sev I would do it. I called you and I was like, I’m in. And she’s like, I need to know more. Don’t do it. And I kind, I kind of proceeded to the next step with Sarah and you with my wife. It was one of those things where you ask forgiveness rather than permission. And I kind of just,

Sevan Matossian (28:29):

Yeah. Yeah. So

Gary Roberts (28:31):

Sh so that’s combined with the other thing kind of had this resentment that she’s had and I haven’t really wanted talk about it cause I didn’t want to throw her under the bus. But the minute she sends you a D dm, I was like, Oh no, you did it.

Sevan Matossian (28:48):

So now it’s a three way. Now, now I’m in the conversation and you feel more comfortable

Gary Roberts (28:51):

Talking about, I’m trying not to, I trying, you know, I didn’t wanna bring you into the drama. I didn’t. My wife is a bit of a private person and whereas the first killing the fat man and the second killing feminine, I really like, I mean, there was nothing off topics that we could talk about with Anisa and myself. She frankly, was not really bothered with me just airing our dirty laundry. So, here to, to get to the point, sir, you put up that screen, you know, low test, a low sex drive, all that business. My wife and I, we have a great relationship. However, you know, sex, I’m like a sex freak. I mean, I, I just, I’m

Sevan Matossian (29:37):

What does that mean? What does that mean? You wanna put it in the dumper or you just need a lie?

Gary Roberts (29:40):

I’m just, I need sexual activity with my spouse often to function as a human being. What

Sevan Matossian (29:48):

Do you mean often? Once a week. Once a week. Once a week is good. Once a week is good. Huh? Once a week is good.

Gary Roberts (29:53):

No, no.

Sevan Matossian (29:55):

On Saturday sat. Okay. Okay. Okay. How about this? On Saturdays, twice in the morning and.

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