#614 – HillerFit Review Show, Sept. 29th

Andrew Hiller (00:00):

Should be the same.

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam. Or like, Oh, oh, this, this always happens to me.

Andrew Hiller (00:06):

What’s that?

Sevan Matossian (00:07):

I’m like, I just watched like five Hiller fit videos and, and your, your camera puts everything in reverse of this.

Andrew Hiller (00:16):

Yeah. People used to gimme a hard time for that, but I think they’re just found out that I’m gonna keep it that way.

Sevan Matossian (00:22):

Yeah, it’s fine. Um, uh, and is the

Andrew Hiller (00:25):

Car, so you look into a mirror, It’s just what you’re used to looking at. And when I make the videos, I’m screaming at myself. And if it’s the other way around, it kind of drives me nuts. So

Sevan Matossian (00:35):

You ever think about just pulling the car? What? Like, like, like, I guess it’s, it’s late there. It’s 7:00 PM for me. It’s nine for you.

Andrew Hiller (00:41):

It is nine. 8 58. We’re early, huh?

Sevan Matossian (00:46):


Andrew Hiller (00:47):

Two, two minutes early. Yeah. Why, What does that have to do with the way I’m parking the car?

Sevan Matossian (00:50):

Nothing just looks different. Like sometimes I, I just, I’m just studying it. Sometimes it feels like the car’s really close to you.

Andrew Hiller (00:57):

It’s gotta always be. Exactly. I have a reverse hyper right here. Uh, and on the other end I have the, so I gotta go right between the two of ’em. So it’s exactly the same spot as always in <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (01:07):

Oh, was there something called like a donkey hyper? What’s the thing at Rogue? You looked at

Andrew Hiller (01:12):

One of my videos. Yeah, it’s the donkey, the $2,000 combo machine that I wish that I had instead of one of each. But I got this one as a Christmas present. Everyone always wants me to do a video on, like, do a video of your garage, walk around. And when I end up doing it, like, I got this in 2014. I got this in 2015.

Sevan Matossian (01:34):

Um, I

Andrew Hiller (01:35):

Just wanna video,

Sevan Matossian (01:38):

Uh, uh, I just wanna show this, uh, Dear Bill and Katie, look, I could click this one here. That’s the one. But then you’d have to pay Google money. So like, I don’t do that to you. I come down here and I click this one. See that? Click that. Katie.

Andrew Hiller (01:56):

See that? Katie?

Sevan Matossian (01:58):

How many calls on, on assault? How many calls on assault?

Andrew Hiller (02:02):

How many cows did you do on the assault bike while you were watching videos before

Sevan Matossian (02:06):

This? Oh, today? Uh, so you know what I did today? Actually, I did a, i, the first time I got on the saw bike today, I wrote it for 30 minutes. And every minute I made sure I took it to o over 85 RPMs.

Andrew Hiller (02:19):

Oh, no shit.

Sevan Matossian (02:20):

Yeah. So I did How long for 30 minutes.

Andrew Hiller (02:22):

Well, how long did you keep it over 85 for?

Sevan Matossian (02:25):

Oh, just, I just had to touch it. I just had to touch it and come back down. Just had to touch it and come back down. And

Andrew Hiller (02:30):

Then what that relative to your top speed, would you say?

Sevan Matossian (02:33):

Uh, I don’t know, but there is a place where I feel like I could injure myself. Like I can go, so I can go so hard that I can throw my back out.

Andrew Hiller (02:43):

I gotta ask before I forget too. What happened to your workout videos? Oh, while you’re putting up the Be as You working out, you had that media guy making you some

Sevan Matossian (02:51):

Stuff. Yeah, I guess. Uh, he called me today and he said, he, I said, Are you still an aspiring filmmaker? And he said, Yeah. I said, All right,

Andrew Hiller (02:58):

<laugh>. So you were just giving him little heads up and he didn’t

Sevan Matossian (03:02):

Actually, he, to be honest, he called me and was like, he’s, I don’t know, I think he got into drugs. Oh shit, That’s not true. I’m making that up. I’m just trying to avoid talking about it. I, I think there’s more coming, You know, what happened to is this person said that they wanted to do the Olivia Curse Debter challenge. And so I started fucking around with cleaning jerks and like, it’s not gonna be good. It’s gonna be, I mean, I don’t mind looking like a jackass, but like, it’s gonna be, it’s gonna be too,

Andrew Hiller (03:30):

Speaking of looking like a jackass, the video I put up tomorrow, I just watched it and I never re-watched my videos. Um, I fucking love it. I’m so excited for this one to go out. It’ll end up getting like nowhere near as many views as I hope for it to get. But dude, is it good? It’s super entertaining. And the reason I’m proud of it is because every bit of it came from myself. I didn’t like take anything from anywhere else, which I, Oh, I’ll do. And people do it

Sevan Matossian (03:56):

Like no movie clip. Like no movie clips?

Andrew Hiller (03:59):

Well, no, there’s a, there’s a bunch of movie clips and, but, but what I mean is you hear like content creator, right? Yeah. And

Sevan Matossian (04:06):

I, and really it’s just you ripping on Ben Bergeron and Lauren Kil for

Andrew Hiller (04:10):

20 minutes. Well, no, that, like, that stuff. Like, I, I watch that and I’m like, I can talk about this. And really that’s their stuff and I’m speculating and talking about it. But this one I created a scenario and then I made a video on it. Uh, have you seen that on Instagram? It’s that fucking Garrett Sager.

Sevan Matossian (04:28):


Andrew Hiller (04:29):

You haven’t seen that? Oh, you’re gonna lose your shit. This is, this is my favorite thing I’ve done thus far. Zevon <laugh>. So I’m, uh, it’s gotta do with the Waap a qualifier out six.

Sevan Matossian (04:41):

Oh, I

Andrew Hiller (04:41):

Didn’t watch Fire Thing.

Sevan Matossian (04:42):

I didn’t watch that. So here’s, Hold on one second. You’re getting ahead of me. Hold on. We’ll come back. I’m make a note here. Garrett Sanger. Sanger Garrett. Okay. Just put Garrett Garrett.

Andrew Hiller (04:50):

Garrett Sanger.

Sevan Matossian (04:51):

Garrett Fisher. Cole. Sanger’s brother.

Andrew Hiller (04:53):

Yeah. It’s Cole Sanger’s brother.

Sevan Matossian (04:55):

Is it?

Andrew Hiller (04:57):


Sevan Matossian (04:58):

Oh. Um, what is this thing? So here’s the, this, this thing has an addon, but you, but you don’t even know what the add-on is, Is that what you’re telling me?

Andrew Hiller (05:07):

The add-on might be. Yeah. I don’t know. Fuck.

Sevan Matossian (05:10):

So that thing weighs 500. That thing weighs 500 pounds.

Andrew Hiller (05:14):

Yeah, it’s a bunch of metal. So usually on the the bottom section it says what the add-ons are, what that is. No, don’t

Sevan Matossian (05:22):

Hear the owner of Rogue Z Hyper who wish to upgrade their existing machine to a rogue donkey. We, Oh,

Andrew Hiller (05:27):

That’s my thing. I wonder how that happens. Cause I have one here.

Sevan Matossian (05:34):

Wow. So you could turn it into that for 1475.

Andrew Hiller (05:39):

It gives you a bunch of different metal pieces.

Sevan Matossian (05:42):

Why do you think they call it the donkey?

Andrew Hiller (05:46):

Why do they call it a worm?

Sevan Matossian (05:49):

Uh, because it looks like a worm.

Andrew Hiller (05:51):

Well, don’t they call it a snake? Cuz I thought it was modeled after that. Anaconda.

Sevan Matossian (05:54):

Oh, because you kick when you do the reverse Hyper a donkey.

Andrew Hiller (05:58):

You’re good. You’re real good. I’m the world’s greatest detective. The world’s greatest detective. I know you’ve watched one of my videos now.

Sevan Matossian (06:08):

Okay. Uh oh. Yeah. I watched a bunch of them. Uh, I better stop sharing a screen before I fuck up.

Andrew Hiller (06:14):

Instagram tab. Instagram tab. Tell tell me. I saw Barbell spin.

Sevan Matossian (06:19):

Tell me about, um, tell me about, uh, Garrett, Sager and Waap before I go off on one of my fucking ran.

Andrew Hiller (06:28):

No, that’s what I’m, I’m here to listen to you rent and then just give a little bit of feedback on him. Right?

Sevan Matossian (06:33):

Tell me about Garrett Saer, and then I’m gonna help, help the world. I’m gonna define for these idiots people who use the word sexist. The 99% of the time those are misogynists.

Andrew Hiller (06:44):

Did I I did a video on that, right?

Sevan Matossian (06:46):

Yeah. It’s fucking, it’s so fucking crazy. How about you there? It’s so fucking crazy. If I say, Oh my God, that chick has the greatest tits ever. That is not sexist. If I say that girl’s tits are really her only value, and if women didn’t have tits, they’d have no value. That is sexist. If I say that chick has the fucking most amazing tits ever, and you say, that’s sexist. Do you know why you say that? Because you’re a fucking misogynist. Because you don’t see Val, You hate women. You hate women’s body parts. You find them repulsive and disgusting. And you know how else I know that is because I’m looking at you and you’re a woman. And I’ve seen what you’ve done to your womanhood. You’ve let it get a hundred pounds overweight, You’ve dye its hair blue. You’ve given it a fucked up asymmetrical haircut.

Sevan Matossian (07:26):

You’ve put a fucking hole here, a hole here and holes here, and a giant tattoo of a fly on your neck. That, that’s how I know you hate women too. But the appreciation for the cup that Connor McGregor wears when he comes out there on Fight Night in those booty shorts, and it looks like he has an 18 inch cock. And I go, Wow. Look at the fucking size of his cup is not sexist. When I say, Holy cow, Danielle, Brandon still has boobs after doing CrossFit, that is not sexist. You can say whatever you want about a CrossFit’s body, Anything you fucking want. They spend 24 hours a day eating, sleeping, drinking, moving to perform in a certain way. No one would ever say, I don’t watch a Major League baseball event. And someone’s like, I can’t believe he’s talking about the bat. The fuck. I’m gonna talk about the bat, The forearm, the helmet. These people’s tools are their bodies. If you’re a CrossFitter, look at what we’ve done to Colton Mertons. We talk endlessly about his fucking body. We talk about his hair, We talk about Justin, uh, uh, uh, Justin MAD’s hair.

Andrew Hiller (08:33):

Did you like the, You

Sevan Matossian (08:34):

Can say anything you want about Danny Spiegel’s ass. You can say anything you want about tit size. It only becomes sexist when you start making like, that’s their only value. But let me tell you, these CrossFitters no one’s watching fucking cro the um, uh, these girls, um, uh, uh, um, uh, handstand walk upside down and not looking right at their fucking, both their holes are pointing the fucking whole world. And the camera’s there, and it’s on your fucking 90 inch in your living room. And you turn to your three year old and you’re like, Man, they’re really good at handstand walks. <laugh> the fuck outta here.

Sevan Matossian (09:06):

It’s not a double standard. Oh, yeah, yeah. It is a double standard. I know what you’re saying. Yeah, we can talk all this shit we want about men, but not women. But even that I don’t care about, like, I’m okay with double standards too, but it’s just like, it’s not sexist. I’m, And I’m gonna read you the definition of sexist and you’re gonna understand, Well, some of you fucking idiots aren’t gonna understand still, but most of these listeners do. You guys are fucking geniuses. But, um, characterized by or showing, Oh, I’m, I’m sorry. Here we go. I, I still wanna hear about Garrett. Uh,

Andrew Hiller (09:33):

No, keep rocking. This is good. This

Sevan Matossian (09:35):

Is sex characterized by or showing prejudice, stereotyping or discrimination. Discrimination typically against women on the basis of sex. Meaning they’re women, womanhood, discrimination, making an unjust or prejudice distinction in the treatment of a different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, sex, age, or disability. Is it unjust to say that Daniel Brandon has un un unnaturally large breast for a CrossFit woman at that level? No. Sorry. It’s not, and it’s not sexist by any means. And if you think that there’s something wrong with her breast and me talking to him, it’s because you’re a misogynist. Oh, what’s a misogynist of on Funny should

Andrew Hiller (10:14):

Ask, say

Sevan Matossian (10:16):

Strongly prejudiced against women. You have a problem with appreciating women’s body prejudice. I fucking get it. I can see you. I feel the hatred coming from you. I see what you’ve done to your own body. I get it. I get your disgusted with the, with the, with the, with the female body. And, and, and you’re fucking disdain from me and other people appreciate it. I fucking get it. I get it. It it, and I’m not even mad at you for it. But use the words, right. You are a misogynist. We are not sexist. The vast majority of fucking talk about Daniel Brandon is her wit her strength, her, her dynamic character, her realness, the fact that she took forth at the CrossFit games. But fucking don’t get it wrong. Motherfuckers we’re watching that body and we’re fucking enjoying it.

Andrew Hiller (11:06):


Sevan Matossian (11:07):

Look at the dude and why is that? Because we fucking love fucking fit women. You jack asses. Okay, so what? Women what say it. Oh yeah, man and women. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The fuck. It’s like these fucking idiots to watching the behind the scenes. And they ask me, I I asked Brooke Wells or someone, how did you pick out those pants? And they’re like, You would never ask that to a man. You motherfucker. I asked Josh Bridges that every year, I, him and, and phoning, How’d you pick out your clothes? You never asked that to man. And who cares if I wouldn’t?

Andrew Hiller (11:36):

It’s a projection thing, right? It’s something that they wouldn’t feel comfortable asking somebody else. So they wonder why you’re comfortable asking them

Sevan Matossian (11:43):

And they bring their story to it. They bring a whole story to it. That’s not even true.

Andrew Hiller (11:49):

And where did that story come from?

Sevan Matossian (11:52):

Uh, something happened to ’em. Uncle Buck touched them and they hate their own woman.

Andrew Hiller (11:56):

It’s just society in

Sevan Matossian (11:56):

General just

Andrew Hiller (11:58):

Kinda bought into it.

Sevan Matossian (11:58):

It’s a combination. It’s, it’s a, it’s a, um, it’s a, uh, it’s a combination of, I think a lot of those people who are like, that have had some severe trauma that they’re trying to pay the world back for. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We do get to see NY with this shirt off. Yeah. Would you like that? Yep.

Andrew Hiller (12:19):

Thank Yeah. And everyone’s like,

Sevan Matossian (12:21):

And I’m fine. I’m fine with the girls keeping their shirts on. I I’m not asking for that. And I’m, I’m fine. If they wanna take ’em off, I’m fine with that too. I saw that, that, that, that pfl Chick chick the other day, thrower lift up her shirt top show or two, I’m fine. Tofl,

Andrew Hiller (12:35):

Whatever. What’s pfl?

Sevan Matossian (12:36):

Professional Fight League. It’s just crazy to think that, um, uh, oh. And, and now let me go off on one other thing too. A couple of my friends are thinking about starting podcasts. Let me tell you something,

Andrew Hiller (12:47):


Sevan Matossian (12:48):

And I mean this from the bottom of my heart with all sincerity, you

Andrew Hiller (12:52):

Really quick. Do they watch your podcast?

Sevan Matossian (12:54):

Are they gonna, uh, I don’t know. I don’t, I don’t think any of my friends watch my podcast.

Andrew Hiller (12:57):

That’s a mistake. Continue.

Sevan Matossian (13:00):

Uh, um, I, uh, uh, you have no fucking chance. You have no idea how hard Craig Richie works. You have no idea how hard Hebrew and Mars work. You have no how Jason media like that guy, whatever his day job is, he does that. And he comes home fucking watches as much fucking CrossFit content as he can. And editing with the other hand like this. No one is put no one in this space at the level that, that the group of people that you’re following who put out content has a life. And if you’re gonna do a podcast, you have no life. If it’s gonna be good, I don’t just come on here and just fucking wing it. I had to read this fucking book. Stay up all night reading this fucking book from my guest this morning.

Andrew Hiller (13:47):

Is it good?

Sevan Matossian (13:48):

Yeah. This dude’s fucking dope. If you don’t have a balance block, dude, you got,

Andrew Hiller (13:52):

Oh, that was the guy this morning. Yeah. He was talking all about that and how there were no balance tests at the games this year. That’s why no one has a chance, cuz you gotta make the videos and listen to the people that set on interviews. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (14:07):

Yeah, exactly. Do.

Andrew Hiller (14:09):

And so

Sevan Matossian (14:10):

Whenever I’m doing so fucking hard,

Andrew Hiller (14:11):

Here’s, here’s the headphone. This is the one that stays in all day, all fucking day. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (14:17):

This, uh, this doesn’t, this is, this is, um, this is just bat shit crazy.

Andrew Hiller (14:24):

Hell Roberts, he, he knows.

Sevan Matossian (14:29):

Do you know what Hiller said to me the other day? I don’t even know if I should say it.

Andrew Hiller (14:33):

Fuck. Go ahead. Literally all I think

Sevan Matossian (14:36):

I, I, I can’t say it, but, but he’s thinking about upping his output. I’m just gonna put it like that. And I’m like, Dude, don’t fucking burn out.

Andrew Hiller (14:47):

Well, I’m not gonna burn out.

Sevan Matossian (14:49):

He’s thinking about upping output.

Andrew Hiller (14:52):


Andrew Hiller (14:58):

Everyone can speculate on that if they’d like speculate away.

Sevan Matossian (15:03):

I thought Ben Bergeron looked really handsome in that, um, video with Lauren Clil. He reminds me of the singer Bono from YouTube, but better looking

Andrew Hiller (15:12):

Then Buron is great looking. How old is he? 42.

Sevan Matossian (15:17):

If he’s not, he looks like shit. If he’s like 31, he looks like shit. But I agree. He’s a stud. Hey, I kept staring at his triceps the whole time.

Andrew Hiller (15:26):

I gotta find this and I

Sevan Matossian (15:27):

Must speaking, speaking about being, uh, sexist, you’re objectifying their bodies. So what? I’m not objectifying their bodies. Their bodies are objects. It is the Roy, It’s, it’s the Roys talking. Uh, I haven’t, I’m not, I’m not there yet. Do you think I’m gonna ask you a fucked up question. Okay. Fuck you in your videos for planting this seed in my head.

Andrew Hiller (15:51):

Yeah. Do

Sevan Matossian (15:51):

You think this is so good? Okay. So, so, so you think that there’s a significant chance that H W P O pays Ma O’Brien a stipend. A stipend.

Andrew Hiller (16:09):

I think it’s ridiculous at this point to assume anything other than that.

Sevan Matossian (16:14):

Uh, the, um, okay. Uh, by the way, that’s, uh, you gotta watch this. This is a good video. Uh, you kill two. Oh God. I love the the island video, the videos you play in that too. What’s

Andrew Hiller (16:24):

I threw it on the ground.

Sevan Matossian (16:28):

So, so then are you suggesting that Justin Dars, I know your was also offered money because there was actually, because he went out there with Adam Knifer.

Andrew Hiller (16:44):

I remember that was for a day or two. Right?

Sevan Matossian (16:47):

And, and, um, and so hypothetically speaking, you think that there’s a chance that she was training with James Towns in

Andrew Hiller (16:59):


Sevan Matossian (17:00):

Oh yes. O’Brien. Yes. And H wpo said,

Andrew Hiller (17:06):

This is where you were going with it.

Sevan Matossian (17:07):

So EPO said, here’s a hundred grand. Come train with us. And you think that there’s also, so the give me, what would that conversation look like? Pretend like I’m Justin Maderas and you’re, uh, you would have OIF do it. Matt wouldn’t do it. Right? That’s

Andrew Hiller (17:24):

What they’re there for. Right? That’s what I was saying. I, it, it literally clicks as I’m making the video. Dude, I’m sitting there and I’m like, Holy shit. He just said ink dry. Like when the fuck do you say that? Like, when you’re signing contracts, who signs contracts? Professional baseball players. They talk about it all the freaking time. And if you’re a baseball player, are you gonna go play for the temp Bay Rays, the Detroit Tigers, or are you gonna go play for the New York Yankees, which are going have worldwide reach? You go play with the Yankees. They’re giving more money. What?

Sevan Matossian (17:53):

Hang on, listen, just so you know what Hiller’s talking about this, we’re talking about this part right here.

Andrew Hiller (18:06):


Sevan Matossian (18:08):

It is.

Andrew Hiller (18:09):

Yeah. I can’t really hear it.

Sevan Matossian (18:14):

Oh, I appreciate you telling me that. Oh, cause I’m not sharing the fucking screen. God, I need worse. Caleb and Suza.

Andrew Hiller (18:22):

Hey, by the way, I just sent you a link with something.

Sevan Matossian (18:25):

Okay. Okay, here we go. Thank you for, uh, speaking up

Andrew Hiller (18:29):

With Matt Frazier. Absolutely. Fucking not, I mean they wanna work with him, but it’s likely that they’re also being put under some sort of money. I mean, there are agents, right? We know Matt O’Keeffe is an agent. We know that story is an agent. What do you think that they do you think they just try to get people freaking bang sponsorships or c4 ooh, get me a C4 sponsorship. I love the shit. I think that the agents who just like Scott Boes does for the freaking mlb and when he’s got a free agent like Garrett Cole or Chris Bryant, they’re trying to get him as much money as fricking possible from the organization that they’re going to be working with for playing for, I was just reading something this morning on espn.com about what will Aaron Judge contract be? It’s something that is a huge part of sports. Aaron Judge who plays for the New York Yankees is can speculate as I’m

Speaker 4 (19:14):

It has, but it has. But

Sevan Matossian (19:15):

It has. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 5 (19:17):

I’m curious, like, tell us what is going on inside of Comp Train. Is this like a new model where you used to train just like, like you said, four high level athletes, but you’re looking to expand. I know you guys took on Sydney, uh, tion back in February. What are some of those plans?

Speaker 4 (19:29):

Yeah, so we have some new athletes coming on, which I’ll be excited to talk about, but we’re not ready to, cuz they have other stuff to kind of work through as well. Um,

Speaker 5 (19:34):

The in hasn’t dried yet, is

Speaker 4 (19:35):

What you’re saying? Uh, it, it, it has but they still have things to like Okay. Uh, to work through Oh. As well. So,

Speaker 5 (19:41):

Sure. Fair <laugh>. We don’t wanna break the news for them

Sevan Matossian (19:43):

Before. Oh, I, I wanna break the news before the in Dries. I, Lauren Cleo’s so professional, by the way. Lauren, what the fuck are you doing? Doing live shows?

Andrew Hiller (19:52):

<laugh>. This isn’t live. It’s recorded.

Sevan Matossian (19:53):

Oh, I thought you said it was live.

Andrew Hiller (19:56):

No, I was in the, So it was a live premier. It was

Sevan Matossian (20:00):

Recorded Premier. So there stay in your live premier.

Andrew Hiller (20:04):

Yeah. Yeah. Live premier.

Sevan Matossian (20:06):

Um, I am hop. Seriously, what does it matter if the athletes are getting paid or properly represented? Good for them. Oh one oh 100%. Oh no, but we’re not saying 100%.

Andrew Hiller (20:13):

I’m saying it’s good. I’m saying it’s

Sevan Matossian (20:15):

Odd, but there does become a poaching about it. There does become a poaching component when, and and there’s nothing wrong with this, but like there’s, there’s a disproportionate amount of power and money probably in the h WPO camp, which lets him pick whoever he wants and kudos to him. But I just would just from a, just a purely curious curiosity perspective, just from a, so a curiosity perspective. How much money did they offer Justin Maderas where he is like, Nope, I’m staying with Adam Nier 100, 200, 300, 500.

Andrew Hiller (20:46):

How much does he wanna leave for? And probably the answer is nothing. He just wants to stay. Uh oh, we lost seven. I can’t wait for him to pull up this link. This is good. Cause I sent him a link on something I missed in the video. He’s back, I sent you that link He had pull that up. I was talking about my link that I sent you.

Sevan Matossian (21:04):

Say that again?

Andrew Hiller (21:05):

I sent you a link. Yeah, pull that up. I don’t know how many people know this. I don’t even know if you know this,

Sevan Matossian (21:13):

But it, but it would be

Andrew Hiller (21:14):

Just something

Sevan Matossian (21:14):

<laugh>. It would, it would be crazy if, uh, is it the change to the rankings thing,

Andrew Hiller (21:23):

Uh, change? Yes. And it’s highlighted in purple Or maybe it’s just the second paragraph.

Sevan Matossian (21:29):

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I did know that. From what, uh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So it’s just interesting.

Andrew Hiller (21:36):

It doesn’t really mean much.

Sevan Matossian (21:37):

Yeah. Um, is that, um, uh, uh, Hiller showing me this, um, from 2010 affiliate cover rankings, two athletes, Ben Buron and Derek Moham from the CrossFit New England team tested positive for the use of stimulant. I, uh, that’s basically just too, like taking too much caffeine, right?

Andrew Hiller (21:57):

Yes. It was in a lot of pre-workouts back then. Yeah. So it doesn’t really mean much. That’s what I meant by that. But it’s still, it’s just something that not many people knew. So that Ben Bergron was one of the original people to pop for using something <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (22:09):

Yeah. Probably one of the most benign things that someone

Andrew Hiller (22:13):

Correct. Yeah. It was the stuff that everybody liked in the pre-workout back then.

Sevan Matossian (22:19):

Uh, but I just do find, I do find interesting. And here’s another thing about that video. You um, what do you think about this? You were saying that, hey, if I went to Comp Train, I’d wanna train with Ben Bergron, but Jason Hoppers at H wpo and he’s not training with Fraser. He’s Marcos pretty

Andrew Hiller (22:35):

Interesting, right?

Sevan Matossian (22:36):

Yeah. Do do are do you, um,

Andrew Hiller (22:41):

Thanks. It’s Mason. I know it’s old news.

Sevan Matossian (22:43):

Do you think that’s, I’ve

Andrew Hiller (22:44):

Brought up the first time.

Sevan Matossian (22:45):

Go ahead. Do you think that, do you think that sucks that, and I appreciate you bringing it up. Um, do you think that sucks for Hopper? Like do you not like that to see the, is he the B team? I mean, because basically you’re saying you wouldn’t go to Comp Train unless you had Ben.

Andrew Hiller (23:01):

Do we know how much it’s he’s that he’s working exclusively with Marco? There is no inclusion of Frazier.

Sevan Matossian (23:08):

I, it’s not that there’s no inclusion of Frazier. I’ve just heard over and over and over that Marco’s his guy. That’s his, that’s his daily guy. Okay. And I, and I suspect that Mal O’Brien, Matt is MA’s daily guy. And once again, there’s no problem with that. I mean there’s only so much fucking bandwidth one dude can have.

Andrew Hiller (23:25):

I’d agree with that. Yeah. Especially with everything else that he’s got going on. Um, I don’t know. I mean it’s what Hopper signed up for. I don’t think that there’s any issue if that’s what he is willing to do. And maybe there’s just no world in which Maderas is gonna go leave to work with whomever he would’ve been situated with. Maybe he would’ve been with Marco. And he is like, I’m not gonna leave in no world for no amount of money to work with Marco. That’s his decision and he’s just gonna continue winning the games. Like what way are you gonna make more money and be more marketable? It’s kind of back to the Aaron judge situation, right? He’ll make more money, be more marketable on the Yankees and Justin will get the rogue sponsorship that you’re kind of feeding for because he’s gonna win the games. And Rogue always sponsors the male or female games winners don’t they?

Sevan Matossian (24:11):

Uh, and shit loaded athletes, don’t they?

Andrew Hiller (24:15):

Uh, I know that it was always like phoning bridges the winners.

Sevan Matossian (24:19):

I just assumed that it was everyone with a t-shirt that they sponsored. Maybe I’m wrong.

Andrew Hiller (24:27):

Caller her

Sevan Matossian (24:27):

Somewhere. Hi.

Speaker 6 (24:29):

What’s up y’all? So, or not a question, but a thought. So you know how Shane is Kia’s main coach? He’s around the other one, but he does not really coach the other one. Like, yes, he’ll talk to Brooke, he’ll talk this, but Kia is the main one. I think it’s stay that way with Matt. He’s not taking anyone. He’s doing, he’s not doing Barnhart. Jason’s for quality, not the quantity.

Sevan Matossian (25:09):

And, and, and, and and then and then they got Harry, uh, Harry, Harry, Polley, Poey, Harry, Harry, Powell, Bailey, Harry, pa for the other guys, the B team. Yep.

Speaker 6 (25:20):

Yep. And so like, and he already knows all like what three or four of them came with him. It was Quant, Amanda and Katherine. So like he already knows them, probably knows them like the back of their hand. They’re probably easy to coach for him. But Matt just coming off of just coaching himself and he had helped the whole time. But he is like, Alright, I’m gonna stick with’s. My girl Marco is probably forced, I say forced, but not really forced. Like, but he’s an employee and an athlete in himself to just do Jason. Like the other guy can do whatever the fuck he wants with that. Cause Oh hey, you’re a third coach. You’re not, you’re an associate, you’re not my main guy. Like Marco is the head coach of h

Sevan Matossian (26:09):

Hey, let me ask you this

Andrew Hiller (26:10):

Comment section is saying that there’s a video of Matt working one on one with, by the way,

Sevan Matossian (26:15):

There’s a

Speaker 6 (26:17):

Yeah, but that like I get one time like he’s gonna work with s you he’s write for that. That’s what I mean by that. My bad. I didn’t, let

Sevan Matossian (26:34):

Me, let me, let me throw this in the mix. This is off subject just a little bit. But another thing that, um, uh, Hopper has what fucking JR did, uh, picking the games workouts this year is fucking

Andrew Hiller (26:47):


Sevan Matossian (26:47):

Awesome. It’s kind of not even right. It’s, it’s like you, I I if anyone wanted to be like, Hey, he, he cheated and he knows someone there or he hacked into Adrian’s emails like, I’m down, I’m game for hearing that. It was just the, there was just too many like seven for seven on picking shit. It was ridiculous. Yeah. I’m thinking maybe the only reason why Hopper would go to H wpo is for money. He wants to train and he doesn’t wanna have to worry about money. And uh, Fraser cuts him a check for $64,000, which makes him the richest town and whatever fucking fucking tiny PO town he lives in on the East Coast. But, but I mean, you got JR you got the crash crucible guy that guy’s no joke. You got fucking Taylor there to fucking, he could JR Taylor like this bitch. Yeah. And uh, so

Speaker 6 (27:33):

I think it’s money. But another thing is games competition. Like, and it’s

Sevan Matossian (27:40):

Just that crazy experience Matt has that no one else has.

Speaker 6 (27:44):

Exactly. And it’s, remember when

Sevan Matossian (27:46):

You can’t put a price tag on that? You can’t put a price tag on that.

Speaker 6 (27:49):

No. And so I think he, I mean Taylor and Jr are gonna know, Right? Like they would probably know the exact thing cause they’re friends with them, he trains with them, yada yada. But I think he goes there cause its like, okay, I’m gonna train with Mal. This is the bat Tia in quotations, like type of training. But he sticks with JR Taylor and Marconey is like the head guy, but he’s also working with Taylor in Jr.

Sevan Matossian (28:16):

Ah, I don’t think so.

Speaker 6 (28:17):

You know, like, not at all.

Sevan Matossian (28:19):

Let me, I think Matt says get up at eight, Touch your toes, take his shit, kiss your wife, go to Jim out. I think like Matt like, or not Matt Marconey, I think Marco’s got him on a strict, I would guess. I mean, if they’re paying him, he’s gotta, I would guess that they’re like, you have to, he’s a property. Right?

Andrew Hiller (28:36):

I think that we’re missing the entire point of this is why don’t any of them talk about it? That’s, that was the main reason I wanted talk about it. I brought up in

Sevan Matossian (28:45):

The, I don’t know, I would keep that shit private too.

Andrew Hiller (28:48):


Sevan Matossian (28:49):

I mean, I don’t fucking want anyone knowing fucking the $700,000 a year I’m making on this podcast.

Andrew Hiller (28:54):

What’s the difference

Speaker 6 (28:54):


Andrew Hiller (28:55):

These professional athletes and those professional athletes? Why, why do we need to know? How much

Sevan Matossian (29:00):

Do we know

Andrew Hiller (29:01):

Though Bears makes? Uh, he, he, you know, his signing bonus, you know everything.

Speaker 6 (29:07):

Oh yeah. Like the contracts are out there. The teams make sure that people know too. That’s why like the shit with Murray the quarterback for that, he had to do four hours of film study a week because he plays too much fucking Call of Duty and he’s one of the greatest athletes in the world. Like, and it like, and it’s not, I don’t even think it leaked. I think they’re just like, it’s out there. Cause most contracts are like that, so. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (29:33):

Yeah. But it’s of course it’s an nd there’s an NDA magnet. But what, what, um, what, um, uh, Mr. Hiller and Mr. Samwell are saying is why, why did they have him sign an nda? Why don’t they let it be known out there? Doesn’t that help the H W P O brand? And doesn’t that everyone think better of him? Maybe. Hey, another thing you hang with Matt and you get a shitload of more followers and you got asked to our

Andrew Hiller (29:56):

More professional sport that doesn’t disclose that information.

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