#608 – Ellie Turner

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

My notes.

Mattew Souza (00:01):

Oh, weird.

Sevan Matossian (00:03):

Hey, I’m alive. You know what it is? I’m not like closing the window properly or something, but basically I sent you, I, I rebuilt some links for the show notes today. That should always stress me out. I still, I didn’t lose all my notes, which is good. But basically there was like, when I go, oh, Justin Maderas first showed up on your Instagram account 24 weeks ago. And then bam, I had those links set up for you or holy cow, I can’t believe the transformation your body’s gone in in six years. And there’s like before and after picture and

Mattew Souza (00:31):

I’s crazy,

Sevan Matossian (00:32):

But I sent you all those links or are you a tier athlete? Those are all questions. I’m gonna ask her. Okay. And then I re-sent you the links in a second email. Sorry. Yeah,

Mattew Souza (00:40):

No, no worries.

Sevan Matossian (00:41):

My, my coffee machine needed to be rescaled this morning.

Mattew Souza (00:45):


Sevan Matossian (00:45):

But you know, what’s cool. When that happens, I still have strong coffee.

Mattew Souza (00:49):

Oh, nice.

Sevan Matossian (00:49):

That shit. You just put a scoop and add hot water. So

Mattew Souza (00:53):

Ready to rock after that,

Sevan Matossian (00:54):

Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to share with you something that you can carry with you your entire life. Listen up. Ready? Free of charge. My mom taught me this as a little boy, and now I’m passing it on to you. Good morning, Jamal. Good morning. Ellie Smith does seem like Ellie Smith. Ellie Turner does mean seem like a really good dude. When someone calls you and they say, hello, may I speak with, uh, Jodi Lynn, Jodi Lynn and soccer mom. Aren’t the same person.

Mattew Souza (01:24):

No, holy

Sevan Matossian (01:24):

Shit. I’m I am a mess.

Mattew Souza (01:27):


Sevan Matossian (01:28):

Jody. Lynn’s the one in the cabinet shop in Connecticut,

Mattew Souza (01:30):


Sevan Matossian (01:32):

Wow. I am at jackass. When someone calls your house and says, hi, uh, may I speak to Jody Lynn? First of all, uh, your response isn’t um, speaking or your response is may I ask who’s calling or you can say, Hey, dumb, fuck. Didn’t your mom teach you that you never call someone’s house. And just ask for someone. You always announce yourself. First. Did you not have a mom?

Mattew Souza (01:57):


Sevan Matossian (01:59):

Even a woman who works at a brothel noses to do that. Hi, I’m big Susie. What’s your name? <laugh> even, she knows

Mattew Souza (02:08):

Even big. Susie,

Sevan Matossian (02:11):

What is wrong with you? Anyway? There’s so many scams out. Hi Ellie.

Mattew Souza (02:15):

Hello, Ellie.

Sevan Matossian (02:16):

There’s so many scams out there right now. Someone’s trying to get into my PayPal account. And then they text me on the side and they’re like, hi, is this Seon?

Mattew Souza (02:25):

They’re crafty too. They are smart.

Sevan Matossian (02:28):

I always say, Hey, I’m gonna show my husband this. And he works for the FBI. Instead of pounding my ass tonight, he’s gonna come find you

Mattew Souza (02:36):


Sevan Matossian (02:36):

Guess what he is gonna do.

Mattew Souza (02:40):


Sevan Matossian (02:41):

Yeah. Do not respond to anybody. No, Amazon’s not calling you and being like, oh, but we have a, a weird charge on your phone for an iPhone 14. Did you buy, just hang up on that person or if your husband is Nicky rod, send him over, ask for the dress and send Nicky rod over. Anyone scamming you, Ellie, besides me getting you on this podcast. Anyone besides that?

Ellie Turner (03:07):

No, no one yet. I, I feel like they try and scam the older people.

Sevan Matossian (03:16):

That’s true. A rough start. They,

Ellie Turner (03:19):

They, they know where to, they know where to like aim their targets.

Sevan Matossian (03:23):

Listen, listen, uh, Jamal, that part where you said Jody, Lynn’s a good dude. And I said she is a good dude. I I’m back out jury’s out. Where is that? Where is it Ellie now? No, let’s, let’s wait till the show’s over the old people.

Ellie Turner (03:39):


Sevan Matossian (03:41):

That made me start sweating. <laugh> got, ’em worked up already. Um, are you, that’s a good stop. Are you in, um, Australia or are you in Washington?

Ellie Turner (03:55):

Neither actually. I mean, uh, Squamish, Canada.

Sevan Matossian (04:00):

Oh, what’s up there?

Ellie Turner (04:03):

Um, not the us, which I have to be out of at the moment because I’m getting a us visa.

Sevan Matossian (04:11):


Ellie Turner (04:11):

So I can be anywhere in the world, apart from America,

Sevan Matossian (04:16):

Uh, some sort of like dance you have to do for, uh, legal reasons.

Ellie Turner (04:19):


Sevan Matossian (04:21):

Pretty much. How, how does that work? Six months in six, uh, three days out or what is that?

Ellie Turner (04:26):

Um, you can do that if you’ve got like, it’s called an Esther. Um, and I’ve done that pretty much all year, but they’ve pretty much told me that I can’t keep sort of abusing the system and like coming in for three months, leaving for a couple days, coming in for three months. You really? So I’ve had to go and get a, like a more permanent visa, um, which hopefully after this process is complete, I’ll have like three years,

Sevan Matossian (04:56):

Um, any fear that you would leave this time and then there would be some sort of hiccup. Well, uh, there’s three LS in your name on this paperwork. We have to start everything over again. Uh, you’ll have to, you’ll be stuck in Canada for four years now.

Ellie Turner (05:09):

Oh yeah. I was, I’m still like, very nervous about it. There’s already been quite a few hiccups mm-hmm <affirmative> um, but I pretty much, I started doing the process by myself and then realize that that was gonna be more of a possibility if I did it myself. So I ended up paying money and getting a lawyer. Um, cuz they, they do this all the time and like they know exactly what to say, cuz a lot of the questions and the things you have to fill in, there’s like a right and a wrong answer. Even though there’s not like they’re looking for specific things that you say. So, um, yeah, I chose, I was just like stuffer. I’m just gonna get a lawyer and make this process quicker and easier. Um, more expensive obviously, but it’s, it’s worth it. If I can get back in,

Sevan Matossian (05:59):

Uh, um, your boyfriend will pay for it. I swear he will. I swear. He will. You got a little cash. I swear he will pay for it.

Ellie Turner (06:08):

<laugh> well I’m yet to get him to pay for anything. So

Sevan Matossian (06:11):

He’s definitely gonna pay for this one. He’s gonna one way or another, he’s gonna pay for this one.

Ellie Turner (06:16):

<laugh> okay. You keep on him then.

Sevan Matossian (06:18):

Why? Um, why? Uh, Squamish, why who’s up there?

Ellie Turner (06:23):

Um, one of our coaches, uh, Jesse lives up here. Okay. So he’s been, yeah, he’s been kind enough to let me stay and um, it’s been good because a few of the things that I need to work on, I’ve been able to get a lot more time with him to work on those things. Um, so it’s been really good.

Sevan Matossian (06:42):

So you’re not up there like kicking yourself like, oh this is a waste of time. You’re like, okay, this is

Ellie Turner (06:47):

Good. No, no we’re definitely using the time very wisely.

Sevan Matossian (06:50):

I’m looking for a picture of him. I I know I saw one.

Ellie Turner (06:53):

Yeah there’s there should be a few.

Sevan Matossian (06:56):

You’re like, oh my God, everything happens for a reason. You’re like your typical, uh, 20 year old girl. Look, I’m trying to get her back. I’m trying to get her back for that old comment. Yeah, that was good. My God, everything happens for a reason. I came up here so I could train with Jesse. Yeah. No shoot. Everything happens for a reason. Oh I, I see Jesse. Okay. I see him. I see, I see. I wanna see if I can beat Matt to the bam.

Ellie Turner (07:22):

Yeah. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (07:23):

Hey. He looks Canadian. He looks Canadian.

Ellie Turner (07:26):


Sevan Matossian (07:27):

Take that. How you want Jesse? <laugh> he looks Canadian

Ellie Turner (07:29):

<laugh> yeah, no, he’s a, he’s a very good guy.

Sevan Matossian (07:34):

Um, isn’t he? The strength guy? Isn’t that kind of like the last thing you need? Aren’t like, I mean, I just watched, uh, Justin on talking elite fitness, say you’re the best squad he’s ever seen?

Ellie Turner (07:45):

Um, yeah, he’s the strength guy, but the, he also works on like, there’s obviously a lot more to just like being strong in like the overarching picture. And I think a lot of like my little muscles get, um, overlooked because my beer muscles take over. So we’re really trying to like work to redefine those and like activate everything properly. And um, I’m typically not the best dead lifter. I don’t, I love squatting hate lifting. So we’re really trying to peel that back and um, get that more efficient as well.

Sevan Matossian (08:25):

Uh, let’s dig in there. Um, you don’t like that movement or you feel some pain or you’re scared of it? Or what about deadlift? Don’t you like?

Ellie Turner (08:33):

Uh, I just, I’m not very good at it. I I’m just like way more, uh, bias towards the squat. Like my deadlift and squat is roughly like, there’s not much difference in between which shouldn’t be the case. Um, I don’t get pain, anything like that. I just fatigue in a deadlift way quicker than I would in a squat.

Sevan Matossian (08:58):

It’s like a it’s it’s interesting too, because like, I, I would think that most people prefer deadlift just because it’s kind you’re, it’s kind of lazy. It’s a lazy movement compared to the squat by that. I mean the assault bike is so much better than running cuz you get to sit

Ellie Turner (09:15):


Sevan Matossian (09:15):

Yeah. You get to,

Ellie Turner (09:17):


Sevan Matossian (09:18):

You know what I mean? I mean, I’m go ahead.

Ellie Turner (09:20):

I’ve got a long torso and short legs. So like genetically pre suppose probably more towards a squatter than a dead lifter. Cuz like when I deadlift I obviously have to, the weight is like way out from me because my torso’s long. So I have to like, I don’t know. There’s something about it that just it’s just feels wrong. So we’re trying to like work on that.

Sevan Matossian (09:44):

How about your arms? Do you have these arms or do you have the monkey arms?

Ellie Turner (09:48):

Uh, no, I’ve got, I got short arms.

Sevan Matossian (09:51):

All right. I’ll take your word for it. God, I wish I was a better squatter,

Ellie Turner (09:55):

Short Stuy arms.

Sevan Matossian (09:57):

Um, when did you, how old are you?

Ellie Turner (09:59):

I’m 24.

Sevan Matossian (10:01):

And when did you realize you were, um, strong?

Ellie Turner (10:06):

Uh, it’s only been since, uh, like CrossFit, uh, which has been like five years. I started CrossFit in July of 2017. And from then I’ve probably put on over that 70 pounds

Sevan Matossian (10:25):

Se 70?

Ellie Turner (10:26):


Sevan Matossian (10:29):

Seven zero. Yeah. So you were, you you’re 150 pound woman who was 80 pounds.

Ellie Turner (10:37):


Sevan Matossian (10:39):

Wow. So I there’s a picture. Uh, this is that 80 pound U?

Ellie Turner (10:46):

Uh, no that was like

Sevan Matossian (10:47):

83 pound, U oh <laugh>

Ellie Turner (10:51):

No, that was sort of like, uh, when I’d started like exercising a little bit more again, but yeah, I, before that I was like pretty slender and I’ve, I’ve always been a pretty built muscular person. I’ve always been into sports and I was working very hard to like try and belittle and um, yeah, it’s just not me. So then when I found CrossFit, I was like, ah, this, this makes sense. Like this is what I was meant to do. Um, and so I just started like, you know, eating a little bit more and training regularly and the muscle just like piled on. And I’m someone that doesn’t struggle to put muscle on. Like I have to be careful because like I can get pretty muscular. And um, so yeah, it, it like obviously there was a lot of hard work and there was a lot of like force feeding to start with and um, working really hard, but yeah, it, over the five years I’ve slowly just put more and more strength on and um, yeah, I’d say now I’d, that’s probably one of my strengths is like the way that I can move some weight.

Sevan Matossian (12:06):

Um, was your, did you have UN unhealthy, unhealthy skinny? Like I’m hearing like yeah, yeah. Um, throwing up shit.

Ellie Turner (12:14):


Sevan Matossian (12:14):

No, but just like, I will not eat.

Ellie Turner (12:17):


Sevan Matossian (12:18):

And uh, other stuff too, like before you go to bed, like 500 sit up or ridiculous running or shit like that.

Ellie Turner (12:25):

I mean, it was definitely a disordered, uh, way of life.

Sevan Matossian (12:32):

Uh, tell me something, tell me something crazy you used to do. I used to have this neighbor, this girl, she was cool, but, uh, she was so skinny was in college. I’d be like, what are you doing? She’s like, I ate. And I’m like, and I looking out my window at my house and, and she’s like, I’m like, what do you mean you ate? She’s like, I have to do 500 sit ups and run five miles now. I was like, wow. Okay. I’m gonna take a bong rip. I’ll see you later. <laugh> was like,

Ellie Turner (12:57):

Yeah, no, to, to be honest. I, uh, I, there was probably a lot of crazy things that I did. I’ve sort of blocked it, that part of my life, like out of my memory at this time. Um, and I’m just like focusing on every step forward in CrossFit. And I think there’ll be a time when I’m ready to share a little bit more about that. But at the moment, I’m sort of just like, let’s focus on CrossFit. Let’s focus on this goal at hand and like doing the best I can hopefully win the games. And then, um, yeah, I think I’ll share my story a little bit more. Um, over the next few years,

Sevan Matossian (13:40):

Is there, by the way you handled that fantastically well done.

Ellie Turner (13:46):

<laugh> thank you.

Sevan Matossian (13:47):

Is there, um, any part of is the new is the new Ellie in the old Ellie? Is it fair to call them that? Are they two different people?

Ellie Turner (13:57):

Oh, com completely. I think there’s obviously always overlap. I think the same person that got me to that point, uh, is the same person that’s driven to get me to win the games. I, I think they’re the same person, but I’m just using my like mental fortitude in a very different way.

Sevan Matossian (14:18):

Um, yeah. That’s you now?

Ellie Turner (14:20):


Sevan Matossian (14:22):

The letter X

Ellie Turner (14:25):

Big five.

Sevan Matossian (14:26):

<laugh> Hey, do you know Benny Watson?

Ellie Turner (14:29):

Mm, I do very well.

Sevan Matossian (14:32):

Is that’s a boy or a girl?

Ellie Turner (14:34):


Sevan Matossian (14:34):

Boy, boy. Yeah. You must be like, thank you Benny.

Ellie Turner (14:38):

Oh yeah. He’s he’s a great photographer.

Sevan Matossian (14:41):

That is such a great picture. And what are you looking at? You’re looking at Justin in the stands. Hey, cutie. <laugh> oh,

Ellie Turner (14:47):

Obviously, obviously. <laugh> that’s exactly what I was focused on in the middle of that event.

Mattew Souza (14:53):


Sevan Matossian (14:56):

Uh, the, the, the tear shoes you’re wearing there. Tear am I pronouncing that right? Yep. And they just came on like gangbusters. Oh God. Look at your body there. That’s crazy. Isn’t it? I mean, it’s so amazing. Mm-hmm

Mattew Souza (15:12):


Ellie Turner (15:13):

It is it’s it’s been a lot of hard work. I mean, like every photo I put up now there’s always juicing comments, which I think is like,

Sevan Matossian (15:26):

I get those too.

Ellie Turner (15:27):

<laugh> yeah. I bet

Mattew Souza (15:29):

He hates it. He hates it.

Sevan Matossian (15:31):

You don’t look like you’re juicing in the slightest by the way.

Mattew Souza (15:34):

Yeah. I mean,

Sevan Matossian (15:34):

No, not at all. I don’t see that. Where’s that vein on your forehead. Yeah.

Ellie Turner (15:38):

<laugh> facial hair look

Mattew Souza (15:40):

Very healthy,

Ellie Turner (15:40):

Which I think is a compliment to the hard work that we put in as CrossFit, female athletes, particularly that like people think we are juicing and it’s like, Nope, this is, this is just hard work. Like we’ve, it takes a lot of time. And I think if a lot of people will try and get to this point and it’s, they can’t because there’s so many elements to it than just like working out and eating lots. Like, um, but yeah, it takes it definitely like the first few comments. I was like a little bit hurt by her and then you just sort of get used to it. And

Sevan Matossian (16:17):

You do, you do get used to it.

Ellie Turner (16:19):

Yeah. Like you, do you get more comfortable accepting the comments? I mean, they never feel good. Um, especially if it’s like a real dig at something you’re already insecure about, but you know that these people are literally probably like old overweight men sitting at their old

Mattew Souza (16:48):

No, but you’re a hundred percent. Right. Any type of person just can’t fathom the hard work that goes into that. Most normal people can’t. So they think to itself, well, there’s no way I could do this. There must be something else. There has to be something else. Cause otherwise they’re just left with their own excuses as to why they’re not putting in the work. Yeah,

Ellie Turner (17:04):

Exactly. Exactly.

Mattew Souza (17:04):

It’s easier just to

Ellie Turner (17:06):

Mm-hmm <affirmative>

Sevan Matossian (17:08):

What did your, what did your, do you have any idea what your caloric intake went from? Um, we had Danielle on here one time Brandon, and she said she was, uh, restricting herself to 1200 calories a day. And she had an assault bike incident where her coach was like, basically she turned off while riding the assault bike. And her coach was like, what the fuck is going on?

Ellie Turner (17:32):

Yeah. Um, look, I, I probably, I, I don’t like to talk numbers because obviously it’s like a comparable thing mm-hmm <affirmative> and I don’t want, you know, there’s probably girls out there that are suffering just as bad as I was. Um, and I know that when you’re in that, as you, you hold onto numbers and you’re like, oh, okay, fair.

Sevan Matossian (17:54):


Ellie Turner (17:54):

But, um, it was very little, it was not healthy at all. Like I would never recommend nor wish it on anyone. Um, and it to, it gets to a point where it’s not actually in your, like, it’s not in your control, like it’s a mental illness. Um, so, but yeah, now I am eating 3000 plus cows a day, um, all the carbs. And like, I notice if I have a day where I don’t eat enough, don’t drink enough, don’t sleep enough like that next week I’m gonna feel it. So, um, it’s not worth to me now impacting like my goal of trying to win the CrossFit games is so strong that like, nothing is worth SA, like getting in the way of that. And I know that’s, that’s just what I have to do. It’s just part of the job.

Sevan Matossian (18:48):

God, you’ve really landed where you’re supposed to land.

Ellie Turner (18:51):

Yeah. I, I feel, I know, uh, last year at the games, it was my rookie year and there was a lot of hurdles to jump through to get there, um, with COVID and getting in and out of Australia and just traveling by myself for the first time having no family and friends there, like it, it was, it was really hard. Um, but then I like stepped out on the floor for the first time and I was like, Hmm, this is where I’m meant to be like, this is what I was meant to do. Um, and I just had like this overarching sense of like, yeah, this, this is my path. Like, this is definitely my passion. And I think even if I wasn’t competing at the level, I was, I would still be training the same way because I love it. Um, so yeah, I’m, I’m just like really happy and content with the, where I have ended up and the opportunities that I’ve like created for myself.

Sevan Matossian (19:50):

Um, when you end the CrossFit games, you’re gonna cry.

Ellie Turner (19:57):


Sevan Matossian (19:57):

I? Yeah. Yeah. I feel it. I feel it.

Ellie Turner (20:00):

I know my family probably would.

Sevan Matossian (20:02):

Yeah. You’re you’re so there’s gonna be a release valve. No one stand next to where you could get injured

Ellie Turner (20:08):

<laugh> yeah, yeah. You, you might be right.

Sevan Matossian (20:11):

Um, you’re so calm, but I, I crazy feel your intensity and, and the, and the seriousness of, uh, maybe serious is the right word. I will stick with serious. The seriousness of all the words and statements

Ellie Turner (20:23):

You say. Yeah. I I’d say I’m like, I’ve got a bit of both. Like, I like to have fun and I’m pretty easy going, but then, you know, there’s always a pretty focused, intense side, especially when training is related.

Sevan Matossian (20:44):

Um, do you, um, do, do you see any, uh, well, let me go back a little bit, uh, 24 weeks ago, uh, from what I could tell, uh, Justin Madera, the two times cross the games champion popped up on your Instagram for the first time, um, separated by Chris Hinshaw on the fuck he’s doing in the picture. Chris get, yeah,

Ellie Turner (21:03):

I know.

Sevan Matossian (21:04):

Just straight cock blocking <laugh>. Uh, so, um, now, now that you know him and you, you have this, um, intimate training environment with him, um, is, are there any things that you notice in similarities between the two of you? I haven’t picked up any, there’s an intensity to Justin sometimes when I ask him questions, like, he’ll, I can see the brick wall go up, like, what’s your mile, nothing heavy. Like, you know, did your parents beat you, but like, what’s your mile time. And it’s just all of a sudden it’s like, he just changes like none of your fucking business. Yeah. Yeah. He gets serious then. Yeah. He gets serious. Um, is there anything, but I never noticed, um, I can’t sense that he has a chip on his shoulder or that he’s trying to prove something to someone which I get from a lot of really successful people. And I already picked that up from you. Like, you’re gonna show the world something. You’re like, okay, hold, hold my beer for a few years while I handle my business out here. Um, do you know what drives him or, or do, do you see similarities and what drives you guys?

Ellie Turner (22:07):

Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think, um, I mean, I think he’s got a very good internal motivation. Like a lot of people try and use external factors to motivate them and like get them to where they want to go. But I don’t think you can fake having like internal drive and like the want and the competitiveness you need to win. Um, and I think you saw that a hundred percent, uh, at the games this year. Like I could just tell, um, from the moment that he like lunged past Rick in, um, up and over event, um, there was just like, there was just no stopping him. Like, he’s just got that like competitive, like internal drive to just be like, I’m going to win this because like, no one else is getting in my way. Um, and I think we have similar in that way, in the sense of like, we don’t need external things to push us if like, obviously it helps and that’s why we are, and we started training together was it definitely like adds another element, but we both got to the games by ourselves training by ourselves. So we don’t need it, but it’s just like that little icing on top,

Sevan Matossian (23:31):

Um, is the, uh, you bring up a interesting point. Um, internal versus external motivation is the motivation to be when you want it to be thin. Is that like an external motivation and the, and the desire to win the CrossFit games as an internal motivation?

Ellie Turner (23:51):

Um, no, I think they’re both internally driven. Okay. Like it wasn’t my intention to be thin. It was more of just like, that’s what my head was telling me that I was going to do. And so like when I set my mind to something, there’s very little things that will stop me. Like I’m can be very persistent and very like, driven in that sense. Like if I really want something, I’ll make it happen.

Sevan Matossian (24:22):

I’ve never asked a female guess this.

Ellie Turner (24:25):

Okay. I’m a little bit nervous.

Sevan Matossian (24:27):

What about to ask me too? I guess it’s a, I guess you could say it’s cuz I’m sexist. Everyone’s been right all this time. Have you ever been to jail?

Ellie Turner (24:36):

No, I have not.

Sevan Matossian (24:37):

But have you ever been oh, good, good. Cause I always ask the dudes that and now I’m just like, oh, I never, the girls don’t get that. Like I don’t assume you guys went to jail. Just assume all, all of us have been to jail at least once. No,

Ellie Turner (24:46):

Never. I’ve got no criminal history. Like I’m I’m rule follower not gonna lie. Right. Um, but the, before the games last year when I got to the us, I got put in a cell, like I got taken back like

Sevan Matossian (25:04):

Secondary, secondary.

Ellie Turner (25:06):

Yeah. No, but it was like, I was put in a cell

Sevan Matossian (25:11):

At the airport, at the airport. Yeah.

Ellie Turner (25:13):

Through a holding cell. They took my phone and my passport, I was in this tiny little room. They brought in like all my suitcases and everything like went through literally every garment of clothing with like fine tooth comb. Um, and I was in there for like couple hours, missed all my connecting flights. Couldn’t contact anyone. This was my first time traveling by myself. <laugh> oh shit. I was like, I don’t wanna be here. Like

Sevan Matossian (25:39):

Send me back. What, what city was that? What city was that?

Ellie Turner (25:41):

San Francisco. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (25:43):


Ellie Turner (25:44):

I got like another customs officer and he came in and he is like, um, after the process was all like the most stress I’ve ever been in, he came in and he was like, I’m sorry, this must be a mix up. Like, I don’t know why you’re back here. <laugh> and then I was on my way <laugh> I was like, this was a traumatizing event. Now every time I see a customs officer, I get like freaking PTSD. Yeah. I

Sevan Matossian (26:08):

Don’t know. I wanna throw up. That’s

Ellie Turner (26:10):

Crazy. Yeah. I was like you. That was my first like impression of America.

Sevan Matossian (26:17):

That was your first time you just landed in. Where did you were coming from Sydney to San Francisco?

Ellie Turner (26:21):

Yeah. Maybe Melbourne. Actually one of them.

Sevan Matossian (26:24):

It must be a mix up.

Ellie Turner (26:26):

Yeah. I don’t know whether the guy, um, I was told after, like, since working with this lawyer for my visa, she was like, I don’t know why that happened to you, but I know that it’s like, one of the things they can like pin you for is drugs. And I don’t know whether I had like a, uh, like a tank top on and I don’t know whether he like saw my muscles and was like, oh, she must be taking drugs. Let’s get her

Sevan Matossian (26:54):

Outta. Um, I went into Canada one time. Uh, well, bunch of times I’ve been stopped in secondary going in there so many times, but we were visiting. This is in 2008. We were visiting the first CrossFit games champion, James Fitzgerald. And they stopped, uh, Carrie Peterson. And I took us into secondary and they must have asked us 50 times where the steroids are. Really. Wow, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I wasn’t. I was only 34 then I was only 34, then 35. Wow. Where’s the steroids. I’m like what? Steroids. Hey. And you know, what’s funny. It was just Carrie and I, and then a shitload of Muslim women. And, and there was some oil convention there, Canada, I guess they, you know, they got a lot of oil, so they were having some oil convention there and it was just tons of dudes in three piece suits, just flying through customs. And it was myself and Carrie and like probably 50 Muslim women. Like, like the, I don’t know, they’re Muslim, but they had the ninja outfits on. It was crazy.

Ellie Turner (27:47):


Sevan Matossian (27:49):

I could hear Carrie’s lady yelling at him. Didn’t I ask you if you were bringing any food and she’s holding a bag of broccoli. Didn’t I ask you do not take this serious.

Ellie Turner (28:02):

Yeah. That’s the thing is that when they pan you like that and you just like panic, you’re like, I don’t, I don’t like, it’s hard to answer the questions. Like

Sevan Matossian (28:12):

Yeah. I, I just, soon as they started yelling at Carrie, I dropped my pants and spread my butt cheeks just as an involuntary reaction. Search me, search me. Assume the position immediately. Yeah. That’s probably from some childhood trauma or something. I was acting out

Ellie Turner (28:25):

<laugh> yeah,

Sevan Matossian (28:27):

It was crazy. And those <laugh> it’s it’s so stereotypical too. The people who are doing it to you, like the guys and the women, they look just like the ones in the movies. It’s like, oh, stereotypes are right.

Ellie Turner (28:39):

Yeah. And like, oh,

Sevan Matossian (28:40):

You do have that haircut.

Ellie Turner (28:42):

I only experienced America through movies. So like I had all these like ideas of what it was gonna be like. And I was like, yep, this, this fits the box. Like, this is exactly what I thought. Get me out if this is like, yeah. If everything that I’ve seen in movies is true. I don’t want a part of it.

Sevan Matossian (29:01):

Yeah. Oh my goodness. I hear you. Um, so, well, the good news is it’s probably only been uphill from there. You just came in on a real low. Yeah.

Ellie Turner (29:08):

Yeah. I mean, every, the first year I experienced like every possible worst case scenario. So now like this year I had so much fun. Cause I was like, oh, this is what it’s like,

Sevan Matossian (29:19):

You’re in a good spot. You’re in a good spot too. Yeah. San Francisco’s probably the worst place in the country. And now you’re like in one of the better places in the country, you know, just outside of, well, you’re just outside of zombie Villa. Have you been to Portland?

Ellie Turner (29:33):


Sevan Matossian (29:34):


Ellie Turner (29:35):

Yeah. They’ve got some good coffee there.

Sevan Matossian (29:37):

They do. Yeah. Where do you know what a hazmat suit is? Do you know what astronauts wear? Like those giant suits? Yeah. If you go to Portland, put one of those on you. Didn’t see all the zombies there.

Ellie Turner (29:48):

What is no, no. Oh, like,

Sevan Matossian (29:50):

Yeah, just all the people on the streets. Just all the drug addicts, just I did by the shit loads everywhere.

Ellie Turner (29:56):

It’s it’s very sad.

Sevan Matossian (29:57):

Yeah. Do you guys have that in Australia?

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