#604 – Transgender Athlete At CrossFit Games with HillerFit

Sevan Matossian (00:00):


Andrew Hiller (00:00):


Sevan Matossian (00:01):

BA more.

Andrew Hiller (00:02):

You could do it as fast as you want.

Sevan Matossian (00:04):

Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. You were just saying, take the idea.

Andrew Hiller (00:07):


Sevan Matossian (00:08):

Have Danielle on

Andrew Hiller (00:10):

To fire it. 30 seconds.

Sevan Matossian (00:10):

Would we roll chicks through or dudes through to smash?

Andrew Hiller (00:13):

You could do both.

Sevan Matossian (00:15):


Andrew Hiller (00:15):

Why would you not do both damn Friday?

Sevan Matossian (00:17):

That’s true. That’s true.

Andrew Hiller (00:20):

From that up. There we go. That’s

Sevan Matossian (00:21):

Pretty. Wow. That’s I, I, I like that.

Andrew Hiller (00:24):

This, this,

Sevan Matossian (00:25):

Just, this just like do a show and put people on the screen and they could be like trannies or dudes or girls or whatever. And, and me and Danielle talk about whether we’d fuck ’em or not. <laugh> it’s kind of an interesting concept.

Andrew Hiller (00:37):

It’s super interesting. You should have sues on there too. And then Susan can chime in. He just got married. He’ll chime in whether or not he wants to fuck him. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (00:44):

Oh, look at, look at where, where dude, I didn’t tell you this Susan, but I signed up for rumble so we could try to stream to rumble and we keep getting errors. Oh, okay. Are you, do you know how to, oh, it goes, I don’t know how to fix. Oh, I know how to get rid of that. I just, I need to go to rumble and try to fix it. Do you have access to our rumble account?

Andrew Hiller (01:02):

What is rumble?

Sevan Matossian (01:03):

Just like YouTube, but for they, they supposedly don’t censor. Like you could say stuff like the vaccine has killed more people than it’s saved and, and, and have 10 doctors on and talk about it where you can’t do that on YouTube. You know, they, Trump’s not even allowed on YouTube. You know that like if we interviewed Trump and we posted it, they’d pull it down.

Andrew Hiller (01:23):

I had no fucking clue. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

There you go. Now, you know, mm-hmm, <affirmative> not on rumble, but you can go ahead and attack Tia to me. Oh my God. Someone, someone today. I really, really, really, really respect. Well, that’s a lot of ’em. Yeah. It’s a lot of them. He said to me, well, I, I, he was convincing. I, I was, I was convinced. I

Andrew Hiller (01:46):

Was like, no way.

Sevan Matossian (01:49):

I’ll tell you who

Andrew Hiller (01:49):

Afterwards. Maybe Dave finally watched my video. That’s what I’m thinking. Oh, no it wasn’t. He finally watched it. Don’t call

Sevan Matossian (01:55):

That. I don’t talk to Dave anymore. Me and Dave are, and Dave are friendships on timeout.

Andrew Hiller (02:00):

There was three more reallys in order for that to be Dave that’s how much you respect Dave? Three more reallys.

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

Three more. No, no, this person I respect more, Dave. Ah, yeah, just a little bit.

Andrew Hiller (02:12):

He was convincing. He was convincing.

Sevan Matossian (02:15):

I do respect Dave shit,

Andrew Hiller (02:16):

Tom, you know, what did you watch? The uh, the second one with what’s her face? Who? Uh, the, the, the chick who actually popped.

Sevan Matossian (02:25):

Oh, the video you made Uhhuh. Yeah. Yeah. I watch, I watched like 10 Hiller fit videos just now.

Andrew Hiller (02:31):

<laugh> okay. How did that go? I

Sevan Matossian (02:32):

Look, Jack. I’m just like sweating through my shirt. Oh yeah.

Andrew Hiller (02:35):

Yeah. I

Sevan Matossian (02:36):

Was sweating fucking hour. I went so hard.

Andrew Hiller (02:40):

How, how did, how did that marathon go? I, I was curious, you said you were gonna do that and I’m like, I wonder how fucking

Sevan Matossian (02:45):

It was good marathon. My

Andrew Hiller (02:47):

Shit would go.

Sevan Matossian (02:47):

I got through like five videos and like, I was kind of OD. And then I, I went outside and, and, uh, moved some, like watering, some plants around. And then I came back in and I watched another one. I watched two more. I, your, your first fails video was awesome. Your second fails video, I was fucking getting pissed.

Andrew Hiller (03:05):

Getting pissed.

Sevan Matossian (03:06):

Yeah. I just disagree with stuff.

Andrew Hiller (03:09):

Are we doing, are we doing this today?

Sevan Matossian (03:10):

No, no, no. Okay. Let’s just pull this. I’m gonna pull this video up. Thank you. Thank you. Keep me on track. Yes, yes, yes. Andrew Hill. That’s what I do. I’m gonna do share. And, um, when, when I I’m always nervous that, um, you guys aren’t gonna hear, so, um, and make, tell me if there’s an echo when I start playing this. Okay. So, so guys, so you would know, um, someone in Andrew’s comment said, Hey, I’d love to see Chevon’s face when he watches this video. So I’m like, okay, I can try to do that. And it’s this video and it’s called, um, it’s already happening. Men competing against women question wrong. No. Okay.

Andrew Hiller (03:43):

It’s 10 years and no one knew.

Sevan Matossian (03:45):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. Cause I watched that one. Oh, I watched that one already. And um, good,

Andrew Hiller (03:49):

Good, good.

Sevan Matossian (03:50):

And, uh, um, you know, what was crazy is Greg didn’t even care that Chloe Johnson competed, she had already competed as a man and a woman. And the lawsuit was saying that she couldn’t compete. And it was just something crazy that one of the attorneys said at CrossFit, but she sued for 2.5 million. She had an ambulance chaser, um, attorney and they settled for far less.

Andrew Hiller (04:11):

I read somewhere that

Sevan Matossian (04:12):

Even fold your car in your garage.

Andrew Hiller (04:14):

Nice. Yeah. That that’s, that’s a, that’s an easy way to figure it

Sevan Matossian (04:17):

Out. And you know what? It’s like,

Andrew Hiller (04:19):

Everyone go to cars.com.

Sevan Matossian (04:21):

Those people <laugh>, those people are not cool. People,

Andrew Hiller (04:26):


Sevan Matossian (04:27):

People, just the outlaw people, her and the outlaw people. They’re not nice. People they’re mean people. They’re bad people. They’re, they’re fucking aggressive people. Um, Greg would’ve bent over backwards for those people. And there were some things they did where they tried to set ’em up. I’ve talked about it before on the show. It’s a, it’s a bad group of people. It’s a mean, mean, uh, vindictive chip on their shoulder, mentally ill, but the whole fucking, the whole nine yards, I don’t personally know Chloe, but she was part of, uh, an event where they kind of ambushed. Greg. They set Greg up, uh, at the games one year he went to go donate money to out wa and do something. And they brought Chloe Johnson out and they didn’t tell him she gonna be there. It was stupid. I mean, Greg didn’t care, but I just thought it was like petty. And

Andrew Hiller (05:10):


Sevan Matossian (05:11):

I remember seeing Chloe one,

Andrew Hiller (05:13):

You’re invited to go to dinner. And

Sevan Matossian (05:14):

I remember seeing Chloe the audience one year at the games and I turned my camera and she, she just fucking fled. It was pretty funny.

Andrew Hiller (05:23):

Like hip and steel. Just fled <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (05:26):


Andrew Hiller (05:27):


Sevan Matossian (05:28):

Are you seeing, are you seeing that this, this, um, are you seeing this girl? Who’s getting a lot of press where, uh, she was raped and so to not be raped again, she had her tits chopped off and turned, started being turned into a guy at the age of 15. She’s everywhere. Now

Andrew Hiller (05:46):

I wanna say, I heard you talk about it.

Sevan Matossian (05:48):

Okay. She, she pops up, I see her pop up on the news or on Instagram or somewhere every single day now. And she’s basically saying how fucked up it is. Like she thought, because she was raped as a woman. She thought that at 15, she would turn herself into a boy to, so that she would never get raped again. And people let her do that. And I wonder soon as I heard that, I’m like, yeah. I mean, there’s obviously some crazy deep pathology or some train wreck or some accident that happened. And I use the word accident, very loosely, something very heinous happened that makes it, that these people wanna do this bad shit to their bodies. It’s it’s it’s um, when, when, when I was a young man, I wanted to get a nose job. And my mom said, okay, when you’re older, when your nose stops growing, like when you’re in your twenties, I’m like, okay. And, and when I was 14 or 12, when I was 12, I wanted a motorcycle. My dad said when you’re 14 and when I was 14, I told my dad, I wanted a motorcycle. He said, yeah. When you’re 16,

Andrew Hiller (06:43):

God parents are smart.

Sevan Matossian (06:45):

Yeah. And, and, and I think both of them saved me from, from a, like a big, big mistake.

Andrew Hiller (06:50):

Did your dad have a motorcycle?

Sevan Matossian (06:52):


Andrew Hiller (06:53):

Why did you want one?

Sevan Matossian (06:55):

Just, I thought, I just thought riding a fucking, like scooter would be cool. <laugh> like a moped would be cool. I could have died.

Andrew Hiller (07:00):

Scooters and mopeds.

Sevan Matossian (07:01):

Yeah. The risk you could have died. Yeah. And I was crazy. I did, I did all sort, I was crazy as a kid. And so if some, if someone tells you, I made a video on this today, my capable child, uh, when, when my son says, Hey, I wanna dress up as Elsa. Um, uh, today, like he just tells me that and I go, oh, cool. And then I just go on or I give him a kiss or I it’s the same thing. If, when he says, um, can I have a candy bar? I just, I just say, I don’t even, I don’t do a yes or a no, I don’t. I don’t react to it

Andrew Hiller (07:38):

In our first. Yeah. I go to the bathroom. That’s cool podcast. <laugh> deal with it. Deal. Figure it out. <laugh> yeah. What’s next.

Sevan Matossian (07:46):

And I see, and I see the, that’s the problem with the word gender. I see Mattie Rogers. I, I think she has all the great intentions. She’s releasing a close that’s genderless clothes, but all she’s doing is exacerbating the problem. The all clothes are already genderless. This shirt. Anyone can wear anywhere and can wear hands. I

Andrew Hiller (08:04):

Just wears my shit all the

Sevan Matossian (08:05):

Time. Yeah. All clothes. All it’s like when they say a bathroom is, is genderless. All bathrooms have always been genderless. I wonder if people like that wake up. If they, how do they, when they finally realize that they were causing the problem, exacerbating, pouring fuel on the fire. I wonder if they, if they feel bad, I guess not. I, I I’ve ne I don’t hear people like,

Andrew Hiller (08:29):

Oh, what do you mean by putting fuel on the fire?

Sevan Matossian (08:32):


Andrew Hiller (08:33):

Like, she’s drawing more than they gave attention to it.

Sevan Matossian (08:35):

Yeah. She’s it’s like this it’s it’s so that it’s like continuing the, the delusion you’re validating. People’s delusionary, state, state.

Andrew Hiller (08:45):

Did you just dislocate your shoulder from patting yourself on the back?

Sevan Matossian (08:49):

Me. Someone said that

Andrew Hiller (08:50):

I’m reading Jeff’s comment. <laugh> fucking

Sevan Matossian (08:54):

Jeff. Hey, I, if I, if I jerk a guy off, is that gay?

Andrew Hiller (09:00):

No. Did you

Mattew Souza (09:00):

Like it?

Sevan Matossian (09:01):

Yeah. I loved it. It was me.

Mattew Souza (09:04):

That’s for you. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (09:07):

Oh, I see what you did there. I’m glad I said

Sevan Matossian (09:09):

No, you like that

Andrew Hiller (09:12):

Soon. I thought about it. So he’s the one who’s cut.

Mattew Souza (09:14):


Sevan Matossian (09:18):

That was, that was quite apropo that you brought up that, um, you’d be fine if, uh, Alexis was a tranny, cuz I saw that in your, you said it on my podcast, but then I saw it. One of your videos too. You’d already rehearsed it. One of your own videos.

Andrew Hiller (09:28):

I didn’t, I didn’t really what what’s apropo I’m not so smart.

Sevan Matossian (09:34):

Uh, like per well, well placed. Perfect. Well done. Uh, appropriate, appropriate.

Andrew Hiller (09:40):

Gotcha. Uh, Hey,

Sevan Matossian (09:42):

Is this girl in the video named, is this girl in the video named Hannah?

Andrew Hiller (09:46):

Yes. Yes. I actually got an interesting message today in relation to this

Sevan Matossian (09:52):

From her?

Andrew Hiller (09:53):

No, no. From somebody else

Mattew Souza (09:55):

That the CIA with your expert in investigations, investigative skills

Andrew Hiller (10:00):

<laugh> Ooh, yes. Hello.

Mattew Souza (10:02):

We to come work for us.

Andrew Hiller (10:03):

<laugh> did you watch that video? Have you seen it?

Mattew Souza (10:06):

I did. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (10:07):

Oh, okay. So seven’s gonna be the only one who is watching it live for the first time. Yeah.

Mattew Souza (10:11):

Yeah. I had to come prepared, you know, I had to come prepared.

Andrew Hiller (10:14):

I’m checking to, okay. I haven’t got a response from this person. I got a message and I responded and I was waiting for more and I haven’t gotten more yet.

Sevan Matossian (10:21):

Someone told me that they, that they worked out with her and that they really liked her. That she was really cool.

Andrew Hiller (10:27):

I I’ve gotten about 30 the other way.

Sevan Matossian (10:29):

Yeah. That’s what I, that yeah, everyone knew it was a dude. It wasn’t a secret. Uh,

Andrew Hiller (10:36):

So the person that you spoke to, were they competitive?

Sevan Matossian (10:38):

Full surgery? Uh, I don’t wanna say too much cuz I don’t know if this person, if I’m supposed to say anything, but, but they just said,

Andrew Hiller (10:45):

People have said so many things that I can’t possibly get anyone in trouble and every one of them was somewhat competitive

Sevan Matossian (10:51):


Andrew Hiller (10:51):

Whether it was like against her or just a competitive person in general

Sevan Matossian (10:55):

And she, she, she, she was open that she’s a, he,

Andrew Hiller (11:00):

That’s not what I heard.

Sevan Matossian (11:02):

Oh, okay. Well this is good. I like this

Mattew Souza (11:05):

Conflicting stuff.

Sevan Matossian (11:06):

Uh, the scary part. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it’s so it’s so, um, it’s so I’m so glad I didn’t get no, my mom didn’t let me get a nose job. I could only imagine. I could only imagine what, what, what a kid thinks, who, who had their tits removed at 15 and took enough hormones to fuck up the whole trajectory of their life because their parents thought that they were doing the right thing. It is. Um,

Andrew Hiller (11:35):

How do you feel about female birth control?

Sevan Matossian (11:38):

I don’t think, I don’t think women should be. I don’t think women should take birth control either. It’s fucking insane. It’s a fucking insane.

Andrew Hiller (11:45):

And like,

Sevan Matossian (11:45):

I mean there’s no, there’s no saying people who say by the way, there’s no San people who think, who recommend birth control, all the doctors who recommend birth control it, it they’re all drug pushers. They’re all, they’re all the guys who go on the trips, which is 90% of them, the doctors, they all go on trips with the pharmaceutical companies to golfer, retreats and get blow jobs from fucking the vendors. I mean, it, it’s not, it don’t act like it that that’s not like we know. Yes. How, I mean D most people don’t know, but, but we know,

Andrew Hiller (12:17):

We know. So have you ever heard from the female side, the ones that have really bad cramps and pain and whatnot, that’s the reason that they started in the first place? Yes. That’s kinda one

Sevan Matossian (12:26):

Of the, I’ve heard all that things

Andrew Hiller (12:26):

I’ve heard is it like really gets in the way of their life. So they go on the birth control for that reason.

Sevan Matossian (12:32):

Yeah. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (12:33):

Whether it be like a really heavy menstrual cycle and they can’t like get live their lives. So they go on the birth control for that. And do you change your state of mind then? Or no?

Sevan Matossian (12:43):


Andrew Hiller (12:44):


Sevan Matossian (12:45):

How about, how about they say that they just, how about they say that? Um, yeah. Fuck you it’s like something to stop eating so many carbohydrates. I bet you it’s carbohydrate related to be honest with you, I bet you hundred percent car related and, and lemme tell you. Yeah. Yeah. And lemme tell you this. Um, how about, how about the, that they say men are circumcised. I’ve talked about this before, but the same skin that holds your fingernail, the same membrane that holds your fingernail to your finger is the membrane that holds the four skin to the head of the penis. Oh. And when you remove the four skin on the penis, you remove that fucking membrane. It’s like fucking 80% of the nerves on the penis. They did that to try to make it. So boys would masturbate less the Jews when they wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yes. Yes. Are

Andrew Hiller (13:32):

You circumcised? Seven?

Sevan Matossian (13:33):

Fuck. No. <laugh> fuck. No. So you’re up smoked three pounds of heroin in that pouch. I put my cell phone in there.

Andrew Hiller (13:41):

I asked if you were

Sevan Matossian (13:42):

Unceded told me. Yeah. I’m unceded. Uncircumcised. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (13:45):

So you’ve got all the sensitivity down there.

Sevan Matossian (13:48):

All of it. So, and Hey,

Andrew Hiller (13:49):

Here’s had that motion in your pants down there and, and you’re always like, did you feel something like, I never feel anything. And you’re like,

Sevan Matossian (13:57):

Hey, I’ll tell you this though. I remember growing up and when boys would talk about sex, they talked about it so differently than me for them. It was so psychologic, heavily psychological. And for me it was so, um, like, uh, sens. It wasn’t so much about thoughts. It was more like about, um, sensations anyway. That’s why, you know, that’s why cereal was invented too. Look at that’s. Why cereal, Kelloggs. Do you know about the Kelloggs? And, and I know about the Kelloggs, you know, about Kelloggs and about

Andrew Hiller (14:29):

Do it. Peanut sensitivity is Kelloggs.

Sevan Matossian (14:31):

Dude. You gotta look into it, dude. All cereal. Cereal

Andrew Hiller (14:36):

Is not the tiger.

Sevan Matossian (14:37):

Yes. Yes. Tony was there to fucking stop you from jacking off. Yes. Tony

Andrew Hiller (14:42):


Sevan Matossian (14:43):

Your teeth. I’m telling you it’s crazy. Hey, don’t forget. They bled George Washington to death. You know that. Right? Who

Andrew Hiller (14:49):

Are they?

Sevan Matossian (14:50):


Andrew Hiller (14:52):

Yeah. Well that was what? The 18 hundreds

Sevan Matossian (14:54):

Or something. Yeah. Nothing’s changed bro.

Andrew Hiller (14:56):

<laugh> hold on, dude. We’re gonna need to cut this short. You’re gonna get everyone thinking. You’re fucking crazy. Hey, um, it’s

Sevan Matossian (15:05):

Anyone? Anyone can, anyone can uh, no, no, actually, actually you gotta see this circumcision assignment. You gotta see American circumcision. You’ve gotta see. It sounds like a document. They explain where that they explain where that went all fucking wrong too. You gotta see that movie. Holy shit.

Andrew Hiller (15:23):

Who? American circumcision images.

Sevan Matossian (15:27):

No one was supposed to have the whole entire force can to the bottom of the helmet. No one.

Andrew Hiller (15:33):

See, I can believe that much. Okay. I can believe that part.

Sevan Matossian (15:38):

I don’t think this, that

Andrew Hiller (15:39):

Dirt is that like a, a sanitary thing? That that’s what they

Sevan Matossian (15:42):

Tell you. Yeah. Just like they tell you that birth. That was where I was going. That’s what that’s. That’s what I was trying to say. That’s exactly why birth control like, oh, oh, it’ll stop your cramps. It’s

Andrew Hiller (15:50):

A good thing. We first, these keep you on track.

Sevan Matossian (15:52):

Remove the four skin of your penis and you, the chances of you getting aids go down. Oh, by the way, keep your Dick outta someone’s ass too. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. We’re all born with service four skin. And it was meant to be taken off. <laugh> that’s part of that idiots peel off idiots. My wife’s gonna be so mad I’m saying, but how you think that we were all, you think, you think that, that people are born like a fucking shirt that comes from Nordstroms. When you get home, you’re supposed to take tag off. Oh yeah. Remove the circumcision. Move the four skin on that. It’s ready to go. Yeah. You fucking retards Seon come down. It’s hard to find doctors even know how to perform a circumcision these days.

Andrew Hiller (16:28):

Sometimes they cut off the whole penis on accident. Then we another issue. We’re gonna watch

Sevan Matossian (16:32):

The video on. Yes. Hey. That’s what’s happening. They went from circumcising. The men to just fucking removing the fucking penis. I would, I would like to have Chloe Johnson on and find out if, uh, if that’s what happened, what happened? What happened happened? She

Andrew Hiller (16:49):

Knew you should have

Sevan Matossian (16:50):

Then made it so that she didn’t wanna be. She wanted to kill the woman in her. That’s basically or no, the man in her, something that was a man. Something bad happened to her as a man. I’m guessing. I’m guessing there’s some real simple psychology. 1 0 1 that like 95% of these people. This happened to them.

Andrew Hiller (17:08):

You’re gonna sound like the guy in my comment section the other day.

Sevan Matossian (17:11):

Oh. Who said like something about your mom.

Andrew Hiller (17:13):

That’s right. Yeah. Oh, easy childhood trauma. That’s why you like to talk on the internet. Hey,

Sevan Matossian (17:20):

Hey, but why can’t you just say, Hey, I was thinking about this today. When someone, someone said to me, um, you know why Hillers like that. I go, why? He goes, he wanted to be a games athlete and he’s angry that he’s not. And then I’m like, okay, well what

Andrew Hiller (17:31):

Talk about low hanging fruit, man. Come on.

Sevan Matossian (17:34):

Well, what if that is true? What does that have to do with the fact? Like,

Andrew Hiller (17:39):


Sevan Matossian (17:39):

Does that have to do if you,

Andrew Hiller (17:42):

But I like this space so much and I’m like, do this instead. No, one’s doing this. And I think I’m pretty good at it. Yeah.

Mattew Souza (17:48):


Sevan Matossian (17:50):

Uh, Chevon’s just angry cuz he got fired from CrossFit. Yeah. And tell me more. Tell me more. What’s your mom wanna do with me? What’s your mom wanna do with me? That’s what? I wanna know. No, I’m not lying. I’m not, I’m not lying. I’m I’m not lying. Listen. There’s nothing. There’s nothing born in nature that needs the tag removed off it or anything touched with its genitalia. Right? Right at birth now. I’m sorry. Oh sorry. Call me crazy. Call me crazy

Andrew Hiller (18:15):

People that their appendix is removed all the time and let their gallbladder,

Sevan Matossian (18:20):

People have their wisdom. Teeth pulled out. It’s pretty common for now. It sounds like it’s pretty common to have your tits chopped off. All sorts of cool shit. I’ll just keep, I just, you ever get a car modified so much and you’re like, fuck, I should have just left it the way it was.

Mattew Souza (18:34):

Yeah. Cause in a day it’s always got issue. Cause you always gotta work on it. It’s like breaking down.

Sevan Matossian (18:38):

I should have never lowered my new Nissan.

Mattew Souza (18:40):

Yeah. You kicking at any driveways, but yeah. Did it all.

Andrew Hiller (18:42):

You had one of those muffs that just made your little car sound like a rice burger.

Sevan Matossian (18:47):

Oh you wanna, you wanna hear some crazy shit? Look up the relationship between tonsils and polio.

Andrew Hiller (18:56):

Fuck <laugh>.

Mattew Souza (18:58):

This is awesome.

Sevan Matossian (18:59):

You wanna see some crazy shit? That’s it’s not tin tin, foil conspiracy theory. Why do they want everyone’s wisdom. Teeth. Fuck. If I to make money cuz you’ll fucking pay them to pull them out. I’ll fucking mean why

Andrew Hiller (19:16):

Everything’s about money. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (19:18):

Uh, tonsils go look up tonsils. And what? The only look at what the only use of the tonsils is what the tonsils actually produced.

Andrew Hiller (19:27):


Sevan Matossian (19:28):

It right? Fucking to help you snore. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Here we go. Um,

Andrew Hiller (19:33):

I’ve got five tonsils.

Sevan Matossian (19:36):

Okay. Let’s shrink it down. Let me read this shit for you. One of the first medical procedures implicated in the causation of polio is tonsil surgery study more than 2000 case histories. 94 is by the Harvard infantile paralysis commission concluded that tonsil Mies led to significant risk of respiratory paralysis due to bull bar polio. Oh that’s from Harvard

Mattew Souza (19:56):


Sevan Matossian (19:58):

Oh, it must be just a conspiracy theory. What drugs is Hiller taking now that’s a different show. Okay. Enough of this let’s let’s get to back to the trany. Uh, just so you know, um, I don’t know. Or

Andrew Hiller (20:10):

Have you been, if you don’t know what drugs I’m taken

Sevan Matossian (20:13):

I’ve I, I love a trany um, I parti with a ton of trannie. I, I grew up in the bay area and um, all Hiller can say is that, uh, and he said this before he even made this video that if his found out his wife was a trany he’d still fucking rail or TW cuz it’s the best one he’s ever had. I paraphrase Mo Mo MOS, Mo man, he would be like, damn, that surgeon did a good job. Yeah,

Mattew Souza (20:36):

It was, it was manmade. So

Andrew Hiller (20:38):

Yeah. It’s like the, you don’t wanna go fishing in a real lake. It’s all about the manmade

Mattew Souza (20:42):

Lakes. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (20:43):

Okay. Um,

Andrew Hiller (20:44):

You don’t know this is from D you seven?

Sevan Matossian (20:46):

No, but that does not look like a trany to me.

Andrew Hiller (20:49):


Sevan Matossian (20:50):

No, I’m not. Okay. Let me know if there’s an echo or anything. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. Here we go. Don’t anyone call in for a little bit? <laugh> like, no, one’s called in. Please. Stop calling

Andrew Hiller (21:03):

Guys at all.

Sevan Matossian (21:06):

Okay, here we go.

Speaker 4 (21:08):

String. So I have fun. I’m not tied up too.

Speaker 5 (21:15):

You can blow it up.

Andrew Hiller (21:19):

What the

Sevan Matossian (21:21):

I could, what? Turn it up. No, no, you could make

Mattew Souza (21:23):

It the whole screen.

Sevan Matossian (21:24):

Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.

Speaker 5 (21:27):

There you go.

Sevan Matossian (21:28):

Okay. Here we go. Fuck. You did a great job on the intro too. Yeah,

Mattew Souza (21:40):

The intro’s always so cool. It’s like it’s the brand too.

Speaker 5 (21:44):

Yo. So four days ago I put up a video about men competing against women and the thumbnails said that it’s already happening. And at

Sevan Matossian (21:51):

That Chloe’s got a nice body. That other thing is fucking wreck.

Andrew Hiller (21:56):


Sevan Matossian (21:58):

What that thing is. Wreck

Andrew Hiller (22:00):

This, this is why we’re watching. That was good. All right. Keep doing

Speaker 5 (22:03):

That point in time. I hadn’t had anything concrete about somebody competing at the level of the CrossFit games. And I guess you could say that this also isn’t concrete. So before you say Andrew’s making these terrible fucking claims and he’s saying it as fact, I’m not saying it as fact, but I can say that I’m about 99% sure that I have found an athlete that is competing at the level of the CrossFit games that is transitioned as a male to a female.

Sevan Matossian (22:26):

Uh, so, um, you, you, is that kind of like a disclaimer, when you say 99%, you’re a hundred percent you’d be willing to like bet your house on it,

Andrew Hiller (22:35):

Correct? Yes.

Sevan Matossian (22:36):

But you’re just trying to be nice. Is that like you’re fainting some kindness. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:40):

There’s always a

Andrew Hiller (22:40):

Chance. Okay. There’s always a chance. So if anyone to come familiar with the lawyer, I’d be like, it said 99% guys. Come on.

Sevan Matossian (22:47):

Okay. Okay.

Andrew Hiller (22:49):


Speaker 4 (22:49):

Have the world’s greatest detective

Speaker 5 (22:51):

Who is Don. So if you watch that video, I say that the biggest issue was the one year transitioning period. So in that one year, all you’ve gotta do is keep your testosterone levels under a certain level. That certain level still gives you leaps and bounds of advantages over the entire rest of the field. And another big thing that I brought up in that video is how swimming is one of the first Olympic committees to publicly say that you need to make the transition before you hit puberty or the age of 12. I also said in that video that the level of CrossFit, if there is going to be somebody who transitioned as a male to a female and wanted to compete against the females, all you had to do was keep your testosterone levels in that range for one year, prove it. And you’re good to go competing against the

Sevan Matossian (23:34):

Females. Okay. So that is a rule for CrossFit. CrossFit has that as a rule,

Andrew Hiller (23:38):

They do as of 2018.

Sevan Matossian (23:41):

And, and, and what was the level again? 2 86,

Andrew Hiller (23:44):

The level is 10 nanos per liter.

Sevan Matossian (23:48):

Liter of what blood you have body weight, right? Blood,

Andrew Hiller (23:51):

Uh, blood. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (23:52):

Which, which makes it, what is, there’s not one number for

Andrew Hiller (23:56):

Everyone. Nanograms per deciliter. It ends up the equivalency is 2 86, 2 86, which, which is the number that we’re kind of all accustomed to having looked at the California hormones thing, which is why I brought the, the calculation over.

Sevan Matossian (24:09):


Andrew Hiller (24:10):

So when, when I had my blood worked on, I was at 7 33, 2 86 is the, of what the test by CrossFits terms is.

Sevan Matossian (24:19):

Okay. And, and so just to be clear, if you can show that you’ve kept your testosterone below 2 86 for a year and you have a penis, you can compete with the women

Andrew Hiller (24:36):

A hundred percent.

Sevan Matossian (24:37):

So even if let’s say, um, your buddy, um, what was the dude used to bang Katherine

Andrew Hiller (24:43):


Sevan Matossian (24:44):

What if is that really? His name? Street.

Andrew Hiller (24:47):

Horner? Yeah. Street Horner,

Sevan Matossian (24:48):

Uh, street. Hey street. Yeah. Hey street street. You wanna street? Let’s go to the arch street. Um, if testing the name out there, if yeah, I was just trying it out. You

Andrew Hiller (24:59):

Would see how, how he’s that a great name? I love his name.

Sevan Matossian (25:02):

So if street, just by chance, wanted to start testing his testosterone every three months or whatever. I don’t know how often they make you test it to prove that you kept it down below year. And he happened to just have a low testosterone. Let’s say it was 2 0 7. He, he, when he entered the open, he could enter as a man and woman

Andrew Hiller (25:25):

You’d have to theoretically documentation over the course of a year. But yeah, theoretically,

Sevan Matossian (25:30):

Even if you weren’t trying to transition, you could just say that’s your, uh, scaled class going with the bitches, the ladies,

Andrew Hiller (25:37):

God, you got it.

Sevan Matossian (25:39):


Andrew Hiller (25:39):


Sevan Matossian (25:40):

It. Wow.

Andrew Hiller (25:43):

Correct. And then you

Sevan Matossian (25:44):

Fucking love that. Someone please do that. I really wanna see that happen. Please do that. I, if I fucking could deadlift over 2 25, I fucking do it. I swear. Could I, could I beat the women?

Andrew Hiller (25:57):

I’ll tell you what, now that I’m injecting testosterone. Yeah, I wanna stop. There’s a good chance. That’s where I’ll be.

Sevan Matossian (26:03):

You’ll just plum it.

Andrew Hiller (26:04):

I’ll plum it.

Sevan Matossian (26:05):

Hey, could I beat the 50 year old women in the, in the CrossFit games? No, there’s they’re way too fit for me.

Andrew Hiller (26:12):

You you’d probably be competitive with the 65 plus

Sevan Matossian (26:15):

I couldn’t qualify with the 50 year old ladies.

Andrew Hiller (26:19):

Uh, it’d be a, have you ever done that? I think Eddie HT was doing that for a while. The podcast podcast guy

Sevan Matossian (26:25):

Hunter tried to tell his shows more popular than mine. I was like, you’re outta your fucking mind. We got into a fight on the phone, like a yelling match. <laugh> okay. Sorry. BA okay. So, okay. So, so, okay. So we know, okay, here we go.

Speaker 5 (26:38):

More on that, watch that video. But I want to tell you about the individual that came up of by the exact same processes that these always come up. So I put up that video and I was pointed it into the direction of an athlete named Anna C. Cales never heard of an C Cales. However, ANC COEs is an athlete that competes at the level of the CrossFit game. She did. So 2021 in the female, 40 to 44 division in 2018. And that same division, 40 to 44. She finished eighth, the history trying to reach us back a little bit farther too, because you’ll see. In 2013, she made regionals as an individual where she finished seventh, which is really fucking good. In 2014, she was part of a team that team won the regional. It was in Kel, Rockland, CrossFit, honey badgers. I did a little bit of research on that and she may have been the alternate because I went to one of the events at the regional level. And I saw that she was not on that team of the,

Sevan Matossian (27:30):

Okay. So this team, right, this team, this team right here, supposedly had this dude on it. But Anna. But, but when we look at the picture, we don’t see eight

Andrew Hiller (27:45):

Other roster. There’s six people there. So she was an alternate.

Sevan Matossian (27:49):

Okay. Okay. Hold on. I’m getting some real time info.

Andrew Hiller (27:55):


Speaker 5 (27:55):

I’m looking for myself in the bleachers.

Andrew Hiller (27:57):


Mattew Souza (27:59):

I was

Andrew Hiller (27:59):

There. You were here, Susan.

Sevan Matossian (28:00):

Oh, is her name is her name? Anna or Hannah?

Andrew Hiller (28:04):

Keep going. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (28:05):

Okay. Hold on.

Mattew Souza (28:06):

I wanna spoil it. Spoiler alert,

Andrew Hiller (28:12):

Dude. I can’t wait to tell you the text that I got earlier.

Sevan Matossian (28:15):

So, so, so Anna was, or which one was in grid league? Anna or Hannah?

Andrew Hiller (28:21):

You’re gonna need to keep going homie.

Sevan Matossian (28:23):

Okay. Okay. But

Andrew Hiller (28:24):

I don’t talk about grid league. Uh, however it was Anna.

Sevan Matossian (28:28):


Andrew Hiller (28:31):

I don’t bring up Ridley cuz I was trying to keep this compact. If my videos get longer than 13 minutes, they, they don’t do it as well.

Sevan Matossian (28:39):

Okay. Okay.

Speaker 5 (28:40):

The six she’s listed on the roster as one of the eight. But at that point in time, there were six athletes, three females and three males in 2015. She qualified again as an individual female then is 27th

Speaker 7 (28:52):

Screen. Anna. It called us on the

Sevan Matossian (28:55):

Left. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. I remember him

Speaker 7 (29:00):

Move from 75. There we go. Five count difference can still bust.

Sevan Matossian (29:07):

So this is the one that you referenced in the video. You took a clip from the podcast. This is the, the girl that I was referencing. That was a dude.

Andrew Hiller (29:16):

I don’t know. Oh, okay. Is

Sevan Matossian (29:18):

It? I think so.

Andrew Hiller (29:20):

Okay then. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:21):

Twice more as team, once more as an individual woman in

Sevan Matossian (29:25):

The, I think Chloe, um, I was told today that she was in the games as a dude and a girl.

Andrew Hiller (29:31):

Um, she was made, she never made the games.

Sevan Matossian (29:34):

Sorry. She entered the open five times. I can see that as in the same, the same name. What was her boy name? What was, do you know her name?

Andrew Hiller (29:42):

I do not know her boy name. I think 2008 is when the transition happened. So

Sevan Matossian (29:47): Hey, even trannie even trannies know that there’s no such thing as gender that’s. What’s crazy. They’re either man. They, they were a man and they wanna be a woman or they’re a woman and they wanna be a man. They don’t wanna be anything in between.

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