#590 – Top 30 CrossFit Female Athletes of All Time

Brian Friend (00:00):

Time. I, I think it was the first time I ever damn

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Were live.

Brian Friend (00:03):

Oh, okay. I think it was the first time. I, I think it was the first time I ever did MERF that I, I was, uh, at a track with a buddy of mine. It was probably 2014 and, uh, it was pretty brutal in the middle of it. <laugh> and I just had this thought to myself that I was only doing it for myself. Um, I know that the hero would’ve taken on a different meaning for me since then, but that was the original thought. And, um, while later I made these shirts, very simple logo. I drew it myself and had someone design it, put it on this morning

Sevan Matossian (00:40):

Audience of one. I like it.

Brian Friend (00:42):

Audience of one.

Sevan Matossian (00:43):

How many shirts of those were made? How many, how many of those were made?

Brian Friend (00:46):

Maybe a dozen later on? I had a, uh, I had a group of friends who were, uh, Christian and they liked the concepts, but I think more from a Christ-centered perspective. So I made the same logo, but instead of the man’s, um, shadow, it was a cross and I made some of those for them. I’m not sure if I have one or not of those anymore.

Sevan Matossian (01:10):

We’re early.

Brian Friend (01:11):

We’re early. That’s very, yeah. Unusual.

Sevan Matossian (01:14):

Um, since we’re early, I would, uh, like to share, um, some things, um, someone sent me, someone sent me this this morning. Have you ever seen these?

Brian Friend (01:31):

It’s better not be the humble or again?

Sevan Matossian (01:33):

No, no, that was, that was gross. The humble was disgusting. These

Brian Friend (01:37):

Are why you do that to me.

Sevan Matossian (01:37):


Brian Friend (01:38):

Are couldn’t you just do that on your live co show. These

Sevan Matossian (01:41):

Are, these are latex underwear that you can, if you think you’re gonna get oral, you wear them in advance.

Brian Friend (01:51):

So basically the same as the humer

Sevan Matossian (01:53):

No, the humer was a, a, a, some sort of weird, uh, games, equipment,

Brian Friend (01:57):

The same line of thinking though,

Sevan Matossian (01:58):

That I think rogue was gonna make, uh, I, I, I also, uh, saw this, this morning, maybe

Brian Friend (02:06):

This, this workout will start with the BLR and end with the Tumblr. <laugh> that kind of thing.

Sevan Matossian (02:10):

The Tumblr, I also saw this this morning. No, not Lauren, but, um, this, uh, didn’t you did your working title change in the Mor. I’m gonna read it. I’m gonna edit this in real time. I apologize for whoever sent this to Lauren, but I think I’m gonna read what I think you meant to write. Did your working title change, uh, at the morning Chalkup and is that a promotion? She says, yes. Now I’m working full time for morning Chalkup, which started this week. So it looks like she, they gave her a new shirt and a new title. And, um, it looks like she St stealing the hairstyle of the three playing brothers. Prior to that, I was technically a part-time contractor for morning Chalkup and working full-time at my CrossFit affiliate, but because I have a huge passion, not, but, and because I have a huge passion for what I do, I ended up working 65 to 70 hours a week, leaving no time to hunt mates. Now I work at the morning, chalk up, and I have time to hunt down mates and provide high quality content for the CrossFit community.

Brian Friend (03:14):

You know, did you ask for that question? Because you asked me that question yesterday.

Sevan Matossian (03:18):

What? Oh, hi Caleb. What question? Whether she has a boyfriend or she has time to hunt mates?

Brian Friend (03:24):

No. About if her position at the morning chocolate had changed.

Sevan Matossian (03:27):

No, I didn’t ask her, but I’m guessing I’m guessing someone heard that question that I asked you and then posted it to her account. She says, now I’m fulltime. And I can really sink my teeth into my craft. I didn’t want to give up coaching completely though. So I still have a class at my affiliate. So she’s moonlighting. She still sh it’s still a, it’s still a lack of, uh, sorry, Caleb. I’m stealing your, your job. And, and finally, um, oh shit. Um, my shit was live right there. What was I showing damnit? Shouldn’t be doing this. Uh, finally, um, Lauren Cleo says I’m getting out of my, at home studio to go on the road and cover the Madrid championships. Not bad for a first gig. Now that I’m a full-time YouTuber. All of this disgusts me.

Brian Friend (04:14):

It does. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (04:16):


Brian Friend (04:16):


Sevan Matossian (04:16):

Sorry. No, no. I mean, I’m happy for the competition. Competition makes everyone grow. This is fantastic. So that’s that, uh, someone in the comments yesterday on the show, we, we had a caller calling from Canada and we talked about the, uh, injection during the show and someone in the comment said, Hey,

Brian Friend (04:38):

So great.

Sevan Matossian (04:38):

Enough of that stopped doing that. This show is not for you. If you want me to stop doing that.

Caleb Beaver (04:43):


Sevan Matossian (04:45):

I say that with peace and love.

Brian Friend (04:47):

If you don’t like it, you can just do what I do, which is, you know, check your text messages while they’re having that conversation. And wait to get back to the topic at hand,

Sevan Matossian (04:55):

Although you did, you did stick around for the, um, latex underwear, but the Tumblr did not interest. You

Brian Friend (05:03):

Ther Tumblr,

Sevan Matossian (05:04):

The humbler Tumblr, uh, Caleb, do you know what this show’s about?

Caleb Beaver (05:09):


Sevan Matossian (05:10):

I didn’t send you notes. This is the 30 greatest women of all time. This is the list where Laura Horak moved five places. What? Huh? Who

Caleb Beaver (05:23):

The greatest women ever

Sevan Matossian (05:24):

The greatest CrossFit women of all time, who ever stepped onto the CrossFit games playing field. If you have competed in at least three CrossFit games, you are eligible to be on this list. That’s the bear. That’s the buy-in. That’s why Katie Henneger wasn’t even thought about

Brian Friend (05:43):

Nope. Anne Tanya Wagner, who has a better resume then? Um, Katie, uh Henneger but, uh, barbell spin did not feel like mentioning Tanya Wagner and is questioning

Sevan Matossian (05:53):

That’s cuz Katie makes more money.

Brian Friend (05:57):

Oh, so he’s trying to appease Katie and he doesn’t care about Tanya.

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

So Tony was only in the 2008 and 2009.

Brian Friend (06:04):

Not they both were there twice. Yes. They both were there twice.

Sevan Matossian (06:09):

I think Katie and, and Katie, I think pulled out of the 2009 games.

Brian Friend (06:14):

Well, yeah, that, that might be, uh, Tanya had a second and a first and Katie had that, uh, uh, obviously that win and then the next year she’s listed as finishing 62nd, but uh, maybe she pulled out at some point,

Sevan Matossian (06:28):

Uh, the other criteria for, uh, making it onto this list. And by the way, thank you Brian, for doing this. This is so cool. This list needs to live somewhere. I don’t know why the CrossFit games morning chalk up or the seven podcast is not made a page where this shit just lives. Like someone, just someone needs to just own this space. Brian’s just putting it out there. Just steal his shit and put it out there. Uh, he’s not factoring in, uh, team performances or outside competitions, such as rogue guap, PZA Dubai, et cetera. Primary statistics where podium finishes top 10 finishes. Number of years, qualified average finishes across a career event wins, um, that you’ll see more of that. You don’t need to, uh, memorize that one.

Brian Friend (07:06):

But the last bullet on there is probably the most important one that people are, I think neglecting. And I knew that this was a risk by putting out so much data because I wanted it to be a little bit more transparent. Last year, we just had a list. And if Camille Blanc BAE showed up 15 on the list, not a lot of people were asking that many questions about it. If Chris Buer showed up 25th on the list or 24th, wherever he was not, a lot of people were asking that many questions about it, cuz they’re like, oh, that kind of makes sense. When you see the numbers alone and you don’t think about anything else, there are certain athletes that look outta place high and outta place low because they might have an impressive number of appearances. And there are actually athletes that aren’t even on the top 30 list that if you saw those numbers, you also might say, huh, how come that person’s not on the list?

Brian Friend (07:49):

They have a, a much better average event finish over their seven appearances than Margo Alvarez who gets the last spot on this list, for example. But that’s because of the last part, which is that the numbers don’t always tell the full story. People who like what I do, they know that I like to use the numbers to drive thought processes and to try to arrive at conclusions. Um, but there are always other things to consider and you know, I’m sure other people have done this as well, but like I have gone back and watched every iteration of the cross, the games that I can at least five times. And in watching those things, a lot of times I’m looking at these athletes and I’m learning about them and I’m evaluating different things. And like, uh, I think Michael brink, who does the graphics for these commented, you know, it’s really, it is, it is true that I do factor in when they competed, where they competed, who they competed against when I’m, you know, trying to make specific decisions. So in some cases there might be a group of three athletes and I’m like, man, it’s really difficult to, to delineate between these three athletes. And I have to go to a different, you know, then that’s where I have to bring in my, like what I know about the athletes, what I know about their games career and all of those things start to come into play.

Sevan Matossian (09:05):

So ladies and gentlemen, there is a spirit of the games component to his decision making.

Brian Friend (09:11):

There’s just some things that are, you can’t quantify with those numbers. So,

Sevan Matossian (09:16):

Uh, what would you, um, did, did you ever cross cross, oh, I’m sorry. I must take this call. Welcome to the Seon podcast. And let me please introduce to you our best call of all time, Mr. Who is it? Kayla, tell me, can you guys, Caleb? Oh, I can’t hear you. Who is it? Caleb. Who? The Mars. Mars. Geez. Mars is old. Mars is so 2021 Mr. Jamal Smith.

Jamal Smith (09:51):

Oh, thank you guys. Good morning. I

Sevan Matossian (09:53):

Haven’t even, I haven’t even gotten one question out and you already wanna hijack the show. Okay. Give it to Brian. Well,

Jamal Smith (09:57):

I, I, I just wanted to ask Brian a quick question about the list. Uh, I know you’re doing only the, uh, games, experience, uh, experience for these athletes, but what do you think the, would there be a big difference if you did include, uh, some of the out season events?

Sevan Matossian (10:18):

Oh, that’s a good question.

Brian Friend (10:20):


Sevan Matossian (10:20):

In a role. That’s three. Great, great questions in a row from you over a three week period. I appreciate it.

Jamal Smith (10:27):


Brian Friend (10:27):

Problem. Yeah. For some people. Sure. You know, um, like Sarah Sigma’s daughter for example, has a really good out of, out of CrossFit game, season competition resume. And Kristen Claver for example, has no resume because there weren’t any out season competitions for athletes to compete in when she was competing in the sport. So although Sarah’s already is ahead of Kristen on the list, if you started to factor those things in yeah. You could certainly make a case that Sarah could be higher, I guess.

Jamal Smith (10:53):

Right, right. No, I, I think the way you do the list is perfect, but I just thought about that because another big athlete that I would say probably the biggest athlete that would have the, uh, most impact is, uh, uh, Romanoff.

Brian Friend (11:10):

Yeah. Obviously his games, uh, experience is limited and then his, uh, his outta season competition, he’s got some pretty impressive results. Yeah.

Jamal Smith (11:21):

Yep. All right. All Savon. You can have your show back.

Sevan Matossian (11:23):

Cheers. Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (11:26):

Nice love. I almost forgot about the show. Uh Edita Dick. Okay. Um, turn on your notifications, Michael. Geez. Michael Birch is that Jeffrey’s son he’s that? That kid’s too old to be. Jeffrey’s son. Brian, have you ever cross, um, cross pollinated the list, have you ever looked at and seen, uh, what would it look like? It, um, Graham Holberg’s placement versus like Camille’s placement. Do they have the same number of appearances? Do they have the same number of wins placements, et cetera, but then notice that Graham is like 25th, but Camille’s 15th or some shit like that. I just made all of that up. I don’t know if any of the, the data I gave you is right. But the spirit of what I’m trying to propose. Have you looked at that yet?

Brian Friend (12:10):

Uh, I mean, we did it, uh, all time, top 10, you and I, and obviously I evaluated more than 10 athletes before making that list. I don’t really love doing it male, a male to female, because I think that the competitions are dramatically different, but, uh, I guess probably in the detail you’re asking. No,

Sevan Matossian (12:27):

Because it, it is interesting there in your post, on your Instagram account, which I’m sure eventually Caleb will show, um, there is there, oh, there it is. Uh, oh yeah, you already did show this, sorry, Caleb, for the, for that sassy remark, um, there is Camille at 15th and in the comments, you know, that, that is, uh, one of the bigger topics talked about where, but when I think of Camille, I sort of think of her as a Graham Holberg

Brian Friend (12:51):

Mm-hmm <affirmative>

Sevan Matossian (12:54):

Do you see the comparison?

Brian Friend (12:56):

Sure. Graham homework was 15th on the men’s list.

Sevan Matossian (12:59):

Oh, he was?

Brian Friend (13:00):


Sevan Matossian (13:03):

Well, shit. Then I nailed it. I didn’t even know that. I would’ve thought he was lower since the men’s field is.

Brian Friend (13:08):

I mean, yeah, she’s got more, she’s got more of appearances than him, obviously the same number of titles. He actually has an additional, uh, they have the same, the same number of podiums and they have, uh, she has, uh, more appearances, more event wins and a slightly better average. But in general, the women on the list have more appearances, uh, because there’s less depth overall in the field. They usually can have longer careers and do, um, you know, better over time. So for example, on the men’s field, there were, there are two people on the list in Miko sale and Jess Maderas, who only have three qualifications on the women’s field. There’s none everywhere on the list has at least four and the men’s field. There’s uh, just a handful that have eight or more on the women’s field. There’s like quite a few of those, including I think, I dunno, everyone is off the list. There’s some people with seven that are off the list, but yeah, so there’s just, it’s it’s, it’s just generally easier for the women to accumulate more appearances, obviously quality appearance of those appearances still matters.

Sevan Matossian (14:07):

What time did you wake up this morning?

Brian Friend (14:09):

I’m tired today. I don’t know. I, I, I slept a lot, but I’m just tired.

Sevan Matossian (14:13):

Did you, have you taught a class yet?

Brian Friend (14:15):


Sevan Matossian (14:16):

Did you work out?

Brian Friend (14:17):

No. I’ve been, uh, working on preparations for competition. I’m hosting October 1st.

Sevan Matossian (14:22):

What’s the name of the competition?

Brian Friend (14:25):

Uh, I dunno, PFT Throwdown, uh, two guys and a girl

Sevan Matossian (14:30):

You’re host you’re. Oh, I like that. That’s a good you’re hosting it. And you barely know the name.

Brian Friend (14:35):

It’s just an inhouse in, in, in the house competition.

Sevan Matossian (14:39):

James, are you near an airport?

James (14:42):

No. Uh, well, yes, a small one.

Sevan Matossian (14:44):

Oh, small one. Yes, because I’m hearing planes take off by Caleb. And you I’m wondering if you guys are in the same building?

James (14:51):

No, just half and coincidence.

Sevan Matossian (14:53):

Okay. Uh, the floor is yours, my friend.

James (14:56):

Okay. I’m gonna make this two weeks talking about, do not like, and you told articulation. So I, the last two weeks reflecting and I realized that I do not hate Brian.

Sevan Matossian (15:15):

Wow. I

James (15:16):

Do not.

Sevan Matossian (15:17):


James (15:17):

He is in fact a good dude.

Sevan Matossian (15:21):

What’d you say? He’s a, what? He’s a fag.

James (15:24):


Sevan Matossian (15:24):

Oh, I thought you just said he is, he is a fag. Sorry. I, I MIS,

James (15:27):

Oh no. I said, I said, I said he is in fact a good dude. Oh good. I had a hard time putting the seal of approval on him, but after consuming more his material, I reluctantly say Brian is a good dude. Um, he is very objective. My only beef is that Christman clever would not even get in the top 40 in the CrossFit games right now. But Brian, I’m sorry, man. You’re champ.

Sevan Matossian (15:58):

You mean, you mean? So you’re saying that at her peak, if we threw her in the mix, she couldn’t, she couldn’t be, um, she couldn’t make the games today at her peak. Yes.

James (16:07):

We need to talk peaks.

Sevan Matossian (16:10):


James (16:10):

We have to talk peaks.

Sevan Matossian (16:13):

All right, James. That that’s good. We’ll address that right now. I appreciate you brother. Thank you for, uh, your growing spiritually as a human being.

James (16:20):

I’m trying. I’m trying. Thanks guys. See you later. Bye.

Sevan Matossian (16:24):

Oh, that’s nice. That’s nice people in the comments in the YouTube comments yesterday were said you were sassy

Brian Friend (16:31):

Me. Yeah. About

Sevan Matossian (16:33):

What I have no idea. They just said you were sassy. Okay. Uh, so, so what, what about that? What about, let’s talk about that before we dig into some more, the numbers are, do you take the athletes as at their peak and consider, um, what they would look like? The, the guys from the stone age to modern times?

Brian Friend (16:52):

I mean, that’s tough. Like I I’ve tried to do this with basketball in the past. I know it’s not a basketball show, but if you took Dwight Howard’s best season in the NBA, you might say he’s the best center to ever play the game. He was literally unstoppable. He was 75% from the floor. He was getting 18 rebounds a game. He was blocking six shots a game, but he wasn’t able to sustain it. There was numbers over a long period of time. If you take Michael Jordan’s best five years and look at them, all of ’em are like incredible compared to any other shooting guard that’s ever played. Um, it’d be like five of the best 10 years ever. So if you’re just talking about peak, you’re looking at one year, uh, probably, and then that’s a little bit different and that’s where you went.

Brian Friend (17:34):

You know, that’s where I was talking about a guy like Lucas HOK yesterday. Like he can’t or the last week, like he comes up, he has this amazing year. He was a third best in a pretty competitive field that year. He’s not on my top 30. He’s not even really close to the top 30 because he wasn’t able to stay in that overtime. And I think that there’s something to be said for that too. What’s you know, Kristen clever four years at the games, fourth, first, second, fourth. And then in her fifth year she took a 32nd. So her average event, you know, her average placement’s 8.6 is weighed down heavily by that 32nd, over four years, she was averaging a second place, finish at the games, basically like 2.25 or something like that, which looks very similar to ju Julie fue, four years, 3.8.

Brian Friend (18:14):

I don’t see anyone saying anything really that, but negatively about Julie fue. And I have Kristen, you know, a few spots ahead of her having done it one more year, haven’t gotten a win. Haven’t had a better four year stretch than she had. And yeah, maybe both of them would just get obliterated by the entire field right now. I’m not really sure. I think that they could both hold their own. Maybe not be in the top 10, uh, against the best 10 women ever. That’s hard to say. It’s really hard to say. I think that that saw that Justin Cotler put a little emoji in the, in the comments probably because he wants Gary Pierce be ahead of Kristen, clever as the greatest American women of all time.

Sevan Matossian (18:52):

I found that post passive aggressive, by the way, Mr. Kotler,

Brian Friend (18:55):

<laugh>, that’s what I’m assuming that he’s referring to. Um, and, and yeah, like when you look right there, I think Patrick Clark pointed out like, uh, nine through 14 are the first American women that pop up on the list and there’s a string of six of them in a row. And it is, you know, pretty difficult to just to say for sure, if CMO is better than Julie fue or Kristen clever is better than Kerry Pierce like this, this is an area where if you have that opinion, that Kerry is better than Kristen. I’m not gonna try to convince you otherwise. This is just, you know, how I ended up splitting those hairs.

Sevan Matossian (19:31):

Did you, did, did you, did you also have a rule? I feel like in the, in the men’s you were very hesitant or you maybe even had a firm rule not to move people around who, who had already placed and hadn’t competed. I mean, Carrie Pierce has often referred to as the greatest female American to ever, uh, participate, uh, at the CrossFit games. And yet you have heard behind Kristen.

Brian Friend (19:57):

Yeah. And it’s, I mean, that, that’s really tough because you look at their resume, you know, obviously Kristen won one, Carrie Deni, um,

Sevan Matossian (20:06):

Kristen has two podiums.

Brian Friend (20:09):

Yeah. You’re looking at their, uh,

Sevan Matossian (20:11):

Six event wins.

Brian Friend (20:13):

Yes. You know, so some of her numbers are better. Carrie has one additional top 10. Um, but like I said, if you take out that one year for Kristen, that event, average drops at 2.25 over four years, it’s like pretty impressive four year stretch. That’s not very often replicable. Uh, and I weigh that pretty heavily. Um, so,

Sevan Matossian (20:37):

Uh, the, the person who moved the most on this list is, is Laura HVAD, is that correct?

Brian Friend (20:42):

Yeah. Uh, there were hardly, there was very, very little movement on this

Sevan Matossian (20:46):

List and she comes up five places. Um, is it okay to share some of this stuff that you mentioned to me yesterday offline about Laura HVAT and, and, and about the, the way the events played out and then from there? Yeah, for

Brian Friend (20:58):

Sure. That articles actually public on morning. Chalkup now too. Okay. And they put a post about it this morning that shows the graphical representation of what I was telling you,

Sevan Matossian (21:07):

Which is

Brian Friend (21:10):

The articles about mall O’Brien and Laura HVAT. And it’s looking at them as probably the two, most likely female athletes to win the games next year. If Chris, if Tia occurred to me retires, obviously they from her second and third this year, and there experiences at the games were quite different. Now had a sixth and one, she was in first place after the second event. And she was never in anything other than first or second, the rest of the weekend that included wearing the leader Jersey for four consecutive events. Laura had a really slow start to the week. She got all the way down to 16th place at one point. And she was able to, you know, have this where people are calling this incredible charge on the weekend to ascend back into podium contention and take third plates at cross the games. But if you slide to the next slide over what Mike Halpin helped me with this, what we did was we inverted the events and now you see Laura’s in red here.

Brian Friend (22:00):

She actually, would’ve been in first place for five consecutive events and like added five leader Jersey. This is, if you start with Jackie pro and worked the events in reverse order, and you would’ve had basically the total inverse storyline where Laura would’ve been never outside of fourth place, the entire competition, she would’ve been in fourth for a second, third or fir, or the entire time still, obviously standing up in third and mal would’ve been all the way down in 12th after a few events and then had that steady climb back kind of basically would’ve in an inverse situation for the two athletes. And we would’ve been talking about miles resiliency to climb back up here to improve upon our placement from last year. And it would’ve been just another ho home pedestrian, you know, podium finish for Laura with no real drama involved. So that’s just to highlight that the order, the events really matters. And also just as a reminder of people when they’re watching any competition, not to go too crazy, just because someone had a great first event or a great day one, but that, you know, in general, the entire test needs to be considered before. Uh, you know, before you wanna make an, uh, you know, a conclusion about how the athletes competition or weekend went.

Sevan Matossian (23:08):

I wanna, those of you who are looking at your screen look closely. Now I’m gonna explain this to you, and I’m gonna make some small edits to these, uh, graphs. Uh, can you go back a slide here? If, if you look at this graph, the blue line shows, um, that, uh, Maow, this is, this is how the event actually played out and you see Maow, Brian, basically those are points. And because the blue line is on top of the red line, you see that she was ahead of Laura, HVAT the entire competition. Now would’ve what would’ve been nice is if we knew what next to each of those dots they wrote, what place the athletes were in,

Brian Friend (23:44):

That’s in the article. You know, she’s just trying to take the whole article that I wrote and make it into a digestible format for something on Instagram.

Sevan Matossian (23:51):

Hey, I don’t interrupt you, please don’t interrupt me. And, uh, that was a joke, Brian, that was a joke that a joke joke, uh, and next slide. Um, and this is, this is when he told me this yesterday I was tripping. This is so good. And I’m just repeating what Brian said. This is, if you play the events in reverse Laura, HVAT, would’ve been wearing the first place Jersey for five consecutive events at the white one. It would’ve said, HVAT on it. You could buy it like in a store or something now.

Brian Friend (24:25):

And it’s one of those things that, you know, Chad Schroeder keeps a, a record of all of the athletes who’ve ever were the leader Jersey and the number of time they’ve worn it. And that’s something that Sean Woodland will sometimes represent in an accolade for an athlete, whatever, but the order of events has such a dramatic impact on that, that I don’t really consider it to be that significant of a factor, uh, historically, like I’m not, that’s why I don’t include something like leader jerseys worn at the CrossFit games when I’m considering this list, because I think it’s basically irrelevant. This is a exact, exact, uh, representation of why that’s irrelevant, cuz mal accumulated four of those statistics this year, Laura accumulated zero. But if you flipped the events, inversely, Laura, would’ve accumulated five in mal, would’ve got zero.

Sevan Matossian (25:09):

Yeah, it’s crazy. That’s really totally

Brian Friend (25:11):

Looked at that. Mel beat Laura at the competition overall. That’s what I’m looking at when I, when I’m assessing

Sevan Matossian (25:16):

Them. And it would’ve been a comeback story for mal and not Laura.

Brian Friend (25:19):

Yeah, yeah. And this, uh, and then, you know, the rest of the article goes on to talk about, oh, what their competitions looked like this year compared to last year. And yeah. And then, um, it also just projects, what’s most likely for the two of them in terms of their potential to win next season.

Sevan Matossian (25:42):

Uh, Jeremy would like us to start the list. Uh, can we go to number 30? Uh, I haven’t it’s Margot Alvarez is Brian already leaked out at the beginning of the show. Brian, who is, is there, is there a slide of crumbs? We have a crumb slide,

Brian Friend (25:57):

Not a crumb slide. There were two athletes that were, um, two, I think there were two athletes that were bumped out here for the, the addition of Daniel, Brian and Gary ow on the list. Those were 10 Burline or to Neil Reed and Carrie Kepler

Sevan Matossian (26:13):

Ones that it was hard. Like, like they were close

Brian Friend (26:16):

Mm-hmm <affirmative>

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

Uh, notable names eligible next season mall. O’Brien’s not eligible this season.

Brian Friend (26:24):

She’s only been to the games twice as an individual.

Sevan Matossian (26:26):

Crazy man, crazy, uh, Ariel Lowen games twice Ellie Turner, twice, uh, from Australia, uh, eligible names who could jump up next year. I,

Brian Friend (26:43):

Yeah, Emma cue already has four appearances, but I didn’t think that that those four appearances weighed any better than the bottom of this list yet. Terry daughter has seven appearances. Emily, Ralph has three Jack and Dawson has three. Um, Danny Spiegel has four. Karen free over has three. And then some of the older school athletes that are not on this list that I considered CA Cassy Lance MC ward, Anna Tobi Carolina reason. TBO interesting actually is Bethany Chadburn. Um, so apparently she is making a runback at the games next year. She also should, could be on added to that list there if

Sevan Matossian (27:17):

You have a good source for that.

Brian Friend (27:20):


Sevan Matossian (27:20):

What’s her camp. Well, who’s she training with?

Brian Friend (27:23):

I don’t know any of that, but Jason CF media borrowed some of our conversation about Bethany from the top 100 women of all time and then reached out to her to ask her what her plans were going forward. And she said that she’s planning to attempt to qualify for the games again next year.

Sevan Matossian (27:38):


Brian Friend (27:38):

Uh, Emily Bridgers, Danny who rant fora and Jennifer asked asshole, I think you pronounce it, uh, or also athlete that I

Sevan Matossian (27:46):

Oh, Bridgers. It’s amazing that three’s not on the list call or hi.

Andrew (27:52):

Hey Devon. How’s it going, man?

Sevan Matossian (27:54):


Andrew (27:56):

All right. I have a quick question for Brian. Um, probably not really on par with what you guys are discussing right now, but, uh, Hillary obviously made a video about Tia potentially being on, uh, performance, anti drugs. And I know Sivan, you don’t, you don’t like that idea, but um, let’s say a couple months from now Tia is drug tested and she actually popped. Does that remove her completely from the, uh, top 30 list or is she still considered the most dominant of all times?

Brian Friend (28:35):

I, I don’t really feel like entertaining this question.

Sevan Matossian (28:38):

I knew it. I thought about saving you. And I was like, fuck that. I wanna see how Brian swims around with this one. Hey dude, here. Here’s the question. Let me, Andrew, do you mind if I rephrase your question for Brian,

Andrew (28:50):

Please do

Sevan Matossian (28:51):

Brian. What if someone, what if someone on your list pops, what would that do to their, um,

Brian Friend (28:58):

I would probably wait to see how CrossFit handles that, you know, in the case of like, I’m thinking about Sean Ramirez master’s athlete. I think he once and

Sevan Matossian (29:07):

Andrew he’s using Sean, cuz he’s an act. It’s an actual, uh, event. Brian doesn’t like the speculation. I think that it basically, he doesn’t want to entertain dragging to his name through the mud at all, which I don’t blame him.

Brian Friend (29:20):

Uh master’s athlete. I believe he won either three or four years in a row. I think it was four in the master 40 to 44 division. And then he failed a drug test in either his fourth or his fifth year competing. Um, I don’t think that they, uh, like, I don’t think CrossFit’s position was to go back and say, we’re stripping him of all these other titles because he passed a drug test in those years to receive its prize and his championship. Um, and I just have a feeling that they would do the same thing in that regard, as they would say, like, yeah, she failed a drug test now, but we tested her every year for seven years, eight years, whatever it was. And she passed all this drug tests and we can’t like just assume that because she failed this one that she would’ve failed, you know, that she was trying to achieve the system and all those.

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