#562 – Should Hiller Juice or Not?

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. We’re live. I can hear you. I can hear you. Oh shit. We’re live. Fuck. What am I doing? Oh my God. Hiller’s not ready. Oh,

Andrew Hiller (00:09):

Shit. I don’t know if you can hear me, but I’m connecting my headphones.

Sevan Matossian (00:12):

I can hear you. I know. I know what you’re doing. Just in your balls. The balls where’s where’s Caleb sleeping. Where’s Matt Suza. Where’s the ultimate backup will brand stutter just us today. Maybe I should share. Maybe I should bring up the, uh, your YouTube page two. I don’t have enough windows to be hardcore YouTube type in Hiller fit. Can you hear me now, Andrew? Wow. Dave’s on a Dave’s on a terror making, um, making videos. What is this? Greg Dawn visit wagons and waits. Wagons and waits. Can you hear me Hiller? What, what is this? I might as well share this screen. What the fuck is going on here? What is this? Um, share screen. Is anyone watching all the Dave Castro videos? Can anyone, does anyone have time to keep up with all that? What is this? What is the title? Yeah. What is this? Are you watching the Dave videos? Hiller.

Andrew Hiller (01:20):

I’ve seen a handful of em. Yeah, I haven’t seen this one.

Sevan Matossian (01:24):

So, I mean, there’s a shit load. Now,

Andrew Hiller (01:28):

When you say a, a shit load, what do you mean?

Sevan Matossian (01:30):

Okay, well, I’m gonna, let’s see, uh, there’s 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

Andrew Hiller (01:37):

Hey, puts one out a week. Did not know that he’s been doing this every week.

Sevan Matossian (01:42):

I did, but, um, and then a couple weeks ago I heard him make one where he was considering making two a week. Look, look at, um,

Andrew Hiller (01:51):

He’s that couple with 40, 50,000 views.

Sevan Matossian (01:54):

He, oh, shit. You’re right. CrossFit games, questions. The new CEO. Wow. Wow. So look at these last four CrossFit CEO, then new CEO then visit with Greg. And then this one says, Greg, Don, look at this one, Greg Don visit.

Andrew Hiller (02:15):


Sevan Matossian (02:17):

I should, I should tell I should. He needs to fix his fucking camera angle.

Andrew Hiller (02:22):

Yeah. Don’t weren’t you the head of some media company. Can’t you give this guy some tips. I

Sevan Matossian (02:26):

Should give him some tips. I

Andrew Hiller (02:27):

Give him, I tried to make a video saying, Hey, I’ll make these things a little easier to digest, but it doesn’t seem to matter cuz he is getting way more views than my videos get.

Sevan Matossian (02:36):

Actually, I could just give him the tip. Hey, look it down here. How it’s time coded. Who did that for him? That’s not automatic, right?

Andrew Hiller (02:46):

No, that’s not automatic.

Sevan Matossian (02:48):

Okay. Hey, so do you think I can go

Andrew Hiller (02:50):

Actually in one of his videos, maybe third or fourth one, it was a suggestion given to him from his comment section. So I know that he looks at the, and he addresses them in future videos and maybe a video after maybe a third or fourth. He’s like, Hey, I’m gonna start time stamping. I’m some wherever you guys will watch him.

Sevan Matossian (03:07):

You think I’d get in trouble for playing this?

Andrew Hiller (03:10):

No, he would’ve to do that.

Sevan Matossian (03:12):

He’d have to go out of his way to fuck me.

Andrew Hiller (03:14):

Just like cross. It went other way to fuck me. When they toe down Colton Merton’s workout at the games they did wait did there are like five other channels I’ve seen with entire streams of the CrossFit events. But my Colton Merton’s video where it’s just him in his own lane got taken down

Sevan Matossian (03:31):

Assholes. I, I just, I just, I said an interval timer just now by the way for um, 60 minutes. Okay. And it to beep every minute. Okay. And for the first 30 minutes I just did, um, five squats with two 30 pound dumbbells, just five. So I ended up doing 150 Uhhuh and then for the last 30 minutes I did uh, um, seven curl to press with a 30 pound dumbbell. And then the next minute switched to the other hand. So 15 inch side. And during that whole hour, I just watched Hiller fit videos.

Andrew Hiller (04:07):

No way.

Sevan Matossian (04:08):

Yeah. Prepping for this pretty good. Right? I think my arms got fucking bigger.

Andrew Hiller (04:12):

You took the, every time you wanted to jerk off, you did some bicep curls and applied it to

Sevan Matossian (04:17):

Your videos. <laugh> uh, when I watched your videos, that’s all I wanna do is jerk off. Okay. Let’s let’s play a little bit of this Dave thing. Let’s can we?

Andrew Hiller (04:26):

Yeah. You, I just told you. Okay. Pivot

Sevan Matossian (04:28):

Easy. Damn. You’ve been flying all day. What? 30 minutes ago you were on

Andrew Hiller (04:32):

Airplane. I I’m so high strung dude. I was like getting in here and these were hooked up to my phone. So I’m like, I can’t even hear what he’s saying.

Sevan Matossian (04:39):

<laugh> let me ask you this. Was it weird? Like I’m, I’m 50. So like for me it was really weird meeting you like we just, for those of you don’t know, like Hiller and I have known each other over the internet and a couple days ago, both him and hunter McIntyre rolled into Newport beach and these dudes that I’ve only known from. I, I still think this is weird, but that was weird meeting. But, but how would, have you ever met, been friends with someone on the internet? Like we are, and then you meet

Andrew Hiller (05:05):

No way. And you know what? Alexis was kind of big on that for a while. And I always thought that it was weird that she would meet up with people she was buddies with on the internet. And it’s not that weird. It was cool.

Sevan Matossian (05:16):

It was cool.

Andrew Hiller (05:17):

It was cool. Right.

Sevan Matossian (05:18):

Would you tell me if you didn’t like me?

Andrew Hiller (05:20):

Yeah. I wouldn’t be here right now if I didn’t like you. I think you know that

Sevan Matossian (05:24):

Like you would. I do, but I

Andrew Hiller (05:26):


Sevan Matossian (05:26):

Wanna hear it.

Andrew Hiller (05:27):

Did you know that of me?

Sevan Matossian (05:28):

So, so no, kind of, but you’re so fucking nice to me. It’s hard for me to believe that. But um, uh, so you, basically, we hung out this, you came by my house this morning and you said bye to the kids and that, which was awesome. Made my kids’ day and then

Andrew Hiller (05:42):

Got my drawings.

Sevan Matossian (05:43):

And then you got on an airplane and you flew home and then you got off the airplane, you went straight to your garage and we’re talking. So basically if you didn’t like me, you’d be like, fuck it. I’m not doing that anymore.

Andrew Hiller (05:52):

Correct? Yeah. I know. I like the shows. They’re good.

Sevan Matossian (05:55):

I didn’t ask if you like the show me.

Andrew Hiller (05:58):

No, I like doing the shows with you. I mean, you are the shows I get to chat with you. It’s like we’re hanging out.

Sevan Matossian (06:02):

Yeah. Okay.

Andrew Hiller (06:03):

You know what? You know, the,

Sevan Matossian (06:04):

And I liked hunter a lot too. That was easy,

Andrew Hiller (06:07):


Sevan Matossian (06:08):


Andrew Hiller (06:08):

Cool that it was, I didn’t know what to expect from hunter and it was only better than I could have ever expected.

Sevan Matossian (06:17):

Did you, did you win any of the, um, uh, so, so we went to the yacht club and we all raced and I didn’t see who won the first race cuz I was in it and I know I didn’t win. Cuz when I was done they were out, they were already out of the pool and then you guys, we raced like 25 yards and then you guys raced again 50 yards and I know it was neck and neck,

Andrew Hiller (06:37):

Dude. I think I beat him on the 50 yard one. I don’t know who was saying that one or the other one, but I think I touched him on the 50 yarder.

Sevan Matossian (06:46):

It was hard to tell because he got out the pool like so fast,

Andrew Hiller (06:50):


Sevan Matossian (06:51):

Where did he go?

Andrew Hiller (06:52):

I think he had a shit. I think he should himself a little bit. And he got out of there. He disappeared there there’s a movie. And I clipped in one of my videos once called warrior and at the end of warrior, there’s this sequence of fights where this guy knocks this guy, the fuck out in a UFC cage and he just leaves. And that’s how I felt. It’s like someone goes, hunter, you beat him. And he just got the fuck out of there.

Sevan Matossian (07:15):

Yeah. What I saw the end of the race and I couldn’t tell who won.

Andrew Hiller (07:19):

I think I, I think at the very worst it was a tie and I think I beat him.

Sevan Matossian (07:24):

It was 25 meters down. They both did a kick turn and then swam back. And it was, he did a flip

Andrew Hiller (07:28):

Turn too. Really?

Sevan Matossian (07:28):

Yeah. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (07:29):

No shit. He’s a good swimmer. I didn’t expect that.

Sevan Matossian (07:32):

Yeah, that was a good day. I spoke to, uh, I spoke to uh, um, miss California hormones, uh, this afternoon she lost a $10,000 earring at the yacht club.

Andrew Hiller (07:46):

<laugh> oh no,

Sevan Matossian (07:51):

Excuse me. I know I,

Andrew Hiller (07:54):

You know, what’s funny this morning,

Sevan Matossian (07:55):

I think going down the slide with the kids, she’s pretty hardcore. She was going down that slide with the kids and yeah, she was, she was really cool. And uh, she thinks maybe it popped off there. She told me if I went back there and found it, I could have it. <laugh> I’m thinking about going back tomorrow.

Andrew Hiller (08:11):

You got, you got a week, right? Go find,

Sevan Matossian (08:13):

Yeah, I’m gonna spend 800 bucks on a metal detector and go back and get it.

Andrew Hiller (08:17):

Dude. I a life snow on this beach this morning, there was this girl walking around with the me detector and Alexis goes, why do people do that? And then you’re telling me this right now. And it’s exactly why she was doing that. Find a $10,000 ring.

Sevan Matossian (08:32):

Um, not going to lie after seeing Hill’s latest IG post seven on is way more Jack than I thought I would not want to be shirtless in the middle of those two guys. Oh I, you don’t wanna be, but you know what? Or,

Andrew Hiller (08:42):

Or you would wanna be.

Sevan Matossian (08:44):

Yeah. <laugh> yeah. You don’t lie. Lucky camera chef. It was um, I don’t have any brothers, but it, it felt like we were just three brothers. It, we hunter. Oh yeah. Me, me and hunter. Just hunter hill and I were already on the boat. Um, hunter got lost and showed up late. The boat had to turn back and go to shore. He got on the boat. We were stuck on a tiny boat for an hour and a half together with five kids. No one knew anyone. And it just, we all felt like family like

Andrew Hiller (09:16):

That wasn’t that nuts yet. We don’t even know each other. But then we did really well.

Sevan Matossian (09:21):


Andrew Hiller (09:21):

The Hunter’s so cool. You’re so cool. It was good.

Sevan Matossian (09:25):

Uh, Thomas <laugh> first of all, if this is really Thomas DeLauer, he uh, oh, Thomas, Delau our money. If that’s really Thomas DeLauer. Do you know who that is?

Andrew Hiller (09:36):

Did you tell anybody? No. Uh, it sounds familiar. Why? Why does it sound

Sevan Matossian (09:40):

Familiar? He has a massive YouTube station. I’ve hung out with him a handful of times. I’m trying to get him on the podcast and he is jacked out of his fucking mind. I met him through Dave.

Andrew Hiller (09:52):

Did you tell him about the time you got called fat this weekend?

Sevan Matossian (09:55):

He’s the keto guy.

Andrew Hiller (09:57):

How you knocked that woman out?

Sevan Matossian (09:59):

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s totally. I kicked her in the, in the garage. Yeah,

Andrew Hiller (10:02):

Yeah. Yeah. The first half was true. The second half. Wasn’t true.

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

I, I, I told the story twice about how you defended me, but you know what, um, it kind of set me free when she did that. Explain like, I don’t know. I just felt good. She’s like, I took off my shirt and she goes, you’re fat. And I go, I’m not that fat. And then you go, you go, he is not that fat, just thick in the midsection. And she goes, I just expected. And then I was like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And then I was free and I just raged, I was free. She sent me free

Andrew Hiller (10:35):

And then you fasted and then the next day it looked like you were meated. It literally looked like you did lose a couple percent body fat, which is actually pretty wild. You ever thought that you look very Lee in the day after you fast?

Sevan Matossian (10:49):

Oh, that’s cool that you said that. I thought I did too, but I didn’t want to like ask you guys cuz what if it was just my imagination? No

Andrew Hiller (10:55):

You do.

Sevan Matossian (10:55):

Yeah. Okay. I’m I’m the fast tomorrow. Then. I’m a fast ed day. Every time before I see you, you should, the way Hiller doesn’t wear a shirt. By the way, people Hillary Hiller doesn’t wear a shirt.

Andrew Hiller (11:06):


Sevan Matossian (11:07):

I don’t wear shoes. He doesn’t wear a shirt.

Andrew Hiller (11:09):

I tried not to wear shoes to impress you that first day. Not. And I burned the fuck out of the bottom of my feet, walking on the boardwalk. So I bought, I bought those. I bought those flip flops, said that board walk store. And uh, then I got this like little rash between my toes from the flip flops. And it was a mess. They’re good. Now they’re in their shoes where they’re supposed to be.

Sevan Matossian (11:27):

Uh, well you tried to go shoeless to impress me. I went, I tried to go shirtless and some lady called me fat.

Andrew Hiller (11:32):

So hunter is certainly fitter than I am.

Sevan Matossian (11:36):

Oh, this is true. Oh, this is Thomas DeLauer. I gave seven on his first dose of exogenous keytones and he tripped balls. I can’t, people don’t get carried away. He, he, he, his, he gave me his first dose of exogenous keytones he gave it to me in a bottle and I consumed it on my own sounds way too. Kinky.

Andrew Hiller (11:56):

That’s another question. Hiller is step as good at throwing Frisbees as he claimed. And the answer is yes.

Sevan Matossian (12:02):

Where do you see that?

Andrew Hiller (12:03):

It was up a little bit.

Sevan Matossian (12:04):

Oh yeah. I’m Savage. I’m glad actually, you guys got to see a little bit of

Andrew Hiller (12:08):

That wild. Oh, I, I, I made it a point. Don’t worry.

Sevan Matossian (12:11):

Yeah, that

Andrew Hiller (12:12):

Was I I had to make sure that you weren’t just bullshitting, but you’re good. You just have this full wind up and do like this perfect level Frisbee and your boys are nuts too.

Sevan Matossian (12:23):

I’m surprised you and hunter are actually that good.

Andrew Hiller (12:26):


Sevan Matossian (12:26):

You guys can throw it straight, which is not easy, especially for Chicago boy.

Andrew Hiller (12:30):

Yeah. I’ve never really thrown a Frisbee in my life. Baseball, football. I can do that. I can’t kick a ball. I can throw a ball and I can’t throw a Frisbee.

Sevan Matossian (12:39):

I’m gonna show you this guy. Um, Thomas,

Andrew Hiller (12:43):

I wanted to wrestle under, I brought it up to him maybe four or five separate times. And you heard why he couldn’t right?

Sevan Matossian (12:51):

To be honest with you. It made me so fucking uncomfortable

Andrew Hiller (12:54):

When I asked him to wrestle. Mm-hmm <affirmative> that made you uncomfortable?

Sevan Matossian (12:59):


Andrew Hiller (13:00):


Sevan Matossian (13:01):

Because I don’t want you like, it would make it. It’s just too. It’s too intense for me,

Andrew Hiller (13:05):


Sevan Matossian (13:06):

It’s too intense. Okay. Look it. Look at this. Um, this, this is this guy’s YouTube page and then we gotta go back. It’s not too intense for you.

Andrew Hiller (13:16):

I wrestled in college dude.

Sevan Matossian (13:18):

So you’d beat him up. Look

Andrew Hiller (13:19):

At no, he would’ve kicked my S dude. Hunter’s like a mountain of a man. He’s got 20 pounds on me.

Sevan Matossian (13:27):

3.2, 1 million subscribers.

Andrew Hiller (13:29):

It would’ve been, it would’ve been an awesome thing for the, uh, internet though. I think why it would’ve been. I could have, I give myself a 30% chance of taking him down. I’m a realist.

Sevan Matossian (13:40):

Oh, and it would’ve been would’ve all the haters. All the haters would’ve been happy and you would’ve won them over cuz they would’ve seen hunter mass. You,

Andrew Hiller (13:47):

It would’ve, it would’ve been good.

Sevan Matossian (13:49):

They’d have been like, oh Heller. So humble. Okay. Look at, look at this guy. 11 hours ago, one day ago, two days ago, three days ago, five days ago, six days ago, seven days ago, nine days ago. 10 days ago. 11 days ago. 12 days ago. This is is good. Yeah. He’s not fucking around.

Andrew Hiller (14:08):

That’s why that’s

Sevan Matossian (14:09):

Actually him and the check. All dense, all dense content. There’s like, no it’s I mean there’s a reason why he’s so successful.

Andrew Hiller (14:19):

Hey, looks good to the shirt off. It appears.

Sevan Matossian (14:21):

Oh dude, his arms are they’re. They’re fucking silly. Yeah. Hiller this morning. I think I saw your moose knuckle this morning. When you came to the house, I think your shorts were so tight. I think I saw your cocking balls.

Andrew Hiller (14:37):

We, we were walking at a mirror and I go, Alexis, can you always see my Dick through my pants? And she goes, yeah, under every single pair of shorts and I was damn it’s cause they’re that tight all the time.

Sevan Matossian (14:48):

Not I never noticed your Dick all the, until this morning, but this morning I, I did see it.

Andrew Hiller (14:53):

My bad.

Sevan Matossian (14:54):

That’s fine. I didn’t did nothing to me. Nothing just realized I was straight. That’s it

Andrew Hiller (14:59):

That’s good. I, I wasn’t ever questioning it. There’s a handful of question this weekend. You’re uh,

Sevan Matossian (15:06):

I’m always questioning it. Okay. Let’s let’s hear what he has to say. Uh, this is it’s in, in, in the, in the lineup down here. He said Greg and Don visit and this interests me. So this is a 28 seconds. Let’s hope he doesn’t report me.

Andrew Hiller (15:21):

He’s not gonna he’s your buddy. No

Speaker 3 (15:24):

Wednesday at a, uh, super cool

Sevan Matossian (15:28):

Afternoon. Can you guys hear that Wednesday at a super cool afternoon? Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (15:31):

If you can make it louder, it’d be better

Speaker 3 (15:35):

Session three or four hours.

Sevan Matossian (15:38):

Can you hear it? It’s quiet. Still not loud enough.

Andrew Hiller (15:40):

It’s quiet.

Sevan Matossian (15:42):


Andrew Hiller (15:42):

On for me at least. I don’t know how about everyone else? I’m assuming I’m the same as everyone else.

Sevan Matossian (15:47):

Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Maybe I, oh, hold on. Hold on. I think I there’s a way to do it so that I grab the audio. Like if will were here, he’d fucking just be working. So share screen, go to Chrome tabs. Um, ah, here we go. Okay.

Andrew Hiller (16:08):

Is that Becca Becca’s here. Cool.

Sevan Matossian (16:13):

Okay. Let’s try again.

Speaker 4 (16:14):


Sevan Matossian (16:15):

How’s that

Speaker 4 (16:17):

Had a, uh, super cool afternoon session. Uh, three or four hours with Don and Greg. So we went to Greg’s house.

Sevan Matossian (16:29):

Uh, he’s talking about Don foul, the new CEO and uh, Greg Glassman. And it sounds like they went to Greg’s house,

Speaker 4 (16:35):

Um, chatted for a couple hours. And then, uh, we went to lunch

Sevan Matossian (16:40):

Chatted for a couple hours. Like Dave’s usually only good for like 10 minutes of talking

Speaker 4 (16:47):

And uh, had some Mexican food. Really good afternoon

Sevan Matossian (16:50):

Had some Mexican food racist.

Speaker 4 (16:52):

They both enjoyed it. They both, uh, had great conversation. I just sat and listened and

Sevan Matossian (16:57):

Ah, there we go. Dave just sat and listened. He didn’t say shit

Speaker 4 (17:01):

And uh, happy that those two connected.

Sevan Matossian (17:04):

I promise you Don, if you’re watching this, that both. Uh, I shouldn’t say it.

Andrew Hiller (17:11):


Sevan Matossian (17:11):

On. What? Okay. Dave was carrying for sure. <laugh> Dave was,

Andrew Hiller (17:17):

Why do you say that?

Sevan Matossian (17:18):

Uh, I, I think he has a concealed carry, um, be

Andrew Hiller (17:23):

Why does it matter?

Sevan Matossian (17:25):

It it’s just cool. It’s

Andrew Hiller (17:26):

Just cool. It, it doesn’t matter.

Sevan Matossian (17:28):

Well, it matters because if you’re out with Dave and someone fucking pulled out a gun, you just hide behind Dave and Dave will put them down. Not that I’m ever worried about that or ever think about that in public, but it’s just a fun little

Andrew Hiller (17:39):

Only if you’re where I live. Do you worry about that in public?

Sevan Matossian (17:42):

It’s a fun. Uh, it’s just a fun, you know what I’m gonna do? I’m gonna like his video BA

Andrew Hiller (17:48):

<laugh> I, you told me you commented on one of my videos the other day

Sevan Matossian (17:52):

I took it. I pulled it down and

Andrew Hiller (17:53):

Then you pulled it down.

Sevan Matossian (17:54):


Andrew Hiller (17:56):

You wanna play that game?

Sevan Matossian (17:58):

I don’t wanna fight with the fucking Andrew Hiller army.

Andrew Hiller (18:01):

They’re strong.

Sevan Matossian (18:03):


Andrew Hiller (18:04):

Yeah. You know, they’re strong when they defend you on Reddit.

Sevan Matossian (18:07):

Yeah, that is

Andrew Hiller (18:08):

They’re my homie. I get in there and I’m like, nice. Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (18:13):

Hey, I didn’t, I don’t like Elgin intensity.

Andrew Hiller (18:17):

Uh, did you watch the, his video or my

Sevan Matossian (18:19):

Videos? No, I watched, I watched your two videos on him and uh, what, like, I don’t, I don’t know, like, like if he is a CrossFitter then I’m cool with him. Like all the shit he says is funny and cool. If you’re CrossFitter, uh, it’s kind of like, Hey, I can talk shit about, um, my wife, but you better not, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm <affirmative>, it’s like, this is our family. Like if, if you wanna talk shit about it, you gotta come inside the fence. Don’t talk shit about it. Like, yeah. Do you gotta come inside? You gotta come inside the fence to, uh,

Andrew Hiller (18:52):

Well, did you not hear the part in there? I don’t know if it was the first or the second part where it actually seems as if he’s rather, uh, educated on a lot of it. Yeah. And I don’t know if he just picks up on the fact that Hailey Adams isn’t very strong, but I believe that was the point, right? Where?

Sevan Matossian (19:09):

Yep. Yep. Yep. I

Andrew Hiller (19:10):

Heard he’s he’s like, she still can’t lift that. Huh? It’s been however long he’s been making these videos and she still can’t lift it and it’s like, he’s pointing it out sarcastically and then she’s in the world and she’s not making any improvements. And, and so when I heard that, I’m like, maybe this guy is, uh, really trying to poke at the algorithm, getting his 1 million views per video. Yep. Maybe he does know cross it rather. Well.

Sevan Matossian (19:34):

Yep. Yep.

Andrew Hiller (19:37):

But you don’t like him.

Sevan Matossian (19:38):

I just, I J I it’s it’s um, here, here’s one thing where you agreed with him on that. I totally disagree upon. Okay. He said, as long as they keep having errors or doing things that other that happen in high school, sports CrossFit will never be big or something like that. And I, and I was thinking at the tour de France, they fucking let that every year, some fucking ding dong fucking comes out into the, um, uh, into the bike area and knocks off a, a, a million dollar athlete and is fucking fucks up his whole chances to win the tour de France. That shit happens every year.

Andrew Hiller (20:12):

That could to happen at the level of high school too. If people were actually watching.

Sevan Matossian (20:16):

I, I agree, but the tour de France is huge.

Andrew Hiller (20:18):

Now, when you go watch cross country in high school, like zero,

Sevan Matossian (20:21):

Well, what, my point is this, he, I agree with you. That’s what I’m saying. That can happen in high school. But what I’m saying is, is he’s saying that we act like high schoolers at, at the fuck at that Tor de France. Like they let the fans just do whatever the fuck they want, which I personally think is cool. But don’t, don’t talk about our, our sport as PO dunk because someone miscounts laps this other sport, there’s fucking dogs that run onto the track. And it’s just common. It’s every year. Uh, how about the aisle of man? Seven fucking people die on average every year, spectators, you know about the aisle of man,

Andrew Hiller (20:53):

That’s the crazy car race, right?

Sevan Matossian (20:55):

Yeah. The motorcycle race motorcycle, the fans fucking die there. Get hit by motorcycle. Uh, this, I had the, I had the PGA golfer guy on, and, and there’s a, there’s a course where if there’s a hole in one, the 20,000 people throw their beers out onto the

Andrew Hiller (21:11):


Sevan Matossian (21:12):

20,000 beers, go flying out onto the, I mean, that’s, you’re telling me that’s not fucking frat boy high school, the, the fucking NFL and the NBA are openly racist. They openly high openly hire people based on their skin color and their, uh, genitalia. They’re openly, uh, racist and sexist. And they seem to be doing fine. That, I mean, that’s some fucking KKK shit. So don’t that fucking jackass doesn’t know shit. That’s what I’m saying.

Andrew Hiller (21:42):

But he makes good points occasionally.

Sevan Matossian (21:44):

Oh, whatever

Andrew Hiller (21:46):

He does. Okay. Fine. I’m I’m, I’m insanely jealous of his million view videos. Yeah. One of these days I’ll make one. Who do I gotta make an add or not on to get a million views?

Sevan Matossian (21:56):

You know?

Andrew Hiller (21:57):

I know

Sevan Matossian (21:58):


Andrew Hiller (21:59):

I know.

Sevan Matossian (22:01):

Um, who

Andrew Hiller (22:02):

Did I miss something? Did Haley Adam say that she’s leaving mayhem. There’s a comment in here. It just says Haley’s death out. Tasia said that she’s leaving mayhem as well. It was by Jack CF.

Sevan Matossian (22:13):

Oh, wow.

Andrew Hiller (22:15):

Yeah. I don’t know. I, I, I was not he up on the Instagram this weekend.

Sevan Matossian (22:21):

I’m looking through,

Andrew Hiller (22:23):

But that was, that was just Jack’s CF. What are you, what are you looking through?

Sevan Matossian (22:27):

I’m I’m just looking through the comments. Yeah. Uh, banana hammock. Streaker in France. I, and that’s not, if you were wearing a banana hammock, that’s not a streaker, but you gotta have the full cocking balls. I mean, if that’s the case, then everywhere Hillary goes, he’s streaking. Cuz his shorts are so damn tight.

Andrew Hiller (22:43):

Hey, I love him. It’s freeing. Especially down there. I made that buddy by guy on the porch. Remember he was all into it.

Sevan Matossian (22:57):

Oh yes. Yes. Mm-hmm <affirmative> yes. I think he just liked you because he knows that you guys are on the same supplements.

Andrew Hiller (23:04):

We are on the same supplements.

Sevan Matossian (23:06):

Um, are, are you considering, did you see what I titled this video?

Andrew Hiller (23:12):

No. Hillary analyzes CrossFit H

Sevan Matossian (23:16):

To juice or not to juice

Andrew Hiller (23:19):

If I’m considering

Sevan Matossian (23:20):

It. That is the question. Well, you’re getting you, you, you got

Andrew Hiller (23:23):

I’m done. Yeah. I’m a hundred percent considering it. Uh, I think I touch upon that and you know what? I made my video with the airport today, for today. Cuz I don’t have one up, but I made it in the airport and I was editing it on the plane.

Sevan Matossian (23:36):

It’s not up now though. Is

Andrew Hiller (23:38):

It? It’s not up now? No, it’s not up yet. It’s uploading. I hope it’s good to go by midnight or else I’m fucked.

Sevan Matossian (23:44):

You sat front your computer and talked to yourself at the airport.

Andrew Hiller (23:48):

Uh, yeah. <laugh> it was nuts, but I’m totally considering it. Um, it’s something that no one’s done in the CrossFit space. Right. And that’s kind of what I’m all about. I want to, I want to do things and explore avenues of things that people haven’t done yet in one of those things, unless I’m wrong, is someone openly transparently using performance enhancers, but it wouldn’t really be performance enhancing. It would be optimiz optimizing through California hormones.

Sevan Matossian (24:19):

So, so, so gimme an idea what that would look like you. So you went, you came to California hormones, you saw their facilities, you fucking loved it. They did the blood work on you. And you would you, would you like before you started you like for a month through a shitload of baseline workouts or what would the, how, how, what would it look like?

Andrew Hiller (24:39):

The CrossFit open for the past handful of years have been my baseline, everything, everything through CrossFit has been my baseline. I know my best friend. I know my best back squat, clean a jerk. I know what my Murf time is and all that shit. Um, I would like to see if it’s, uh, there’s things that I’ve been told I can do with my elbow as well, which hasn’t recovered. I don’t know if the boys were playing to this. Like I still cannot get there. And I’ve been told that there’s things that I can do to improve that as well.

Sevan Matossian (25:11):

I wonder if it would also give you more insight into, um, other people who are using,

Andrew Hiller (25:16):

I guarantee you, it would because like I always say anything, one of my videos, it’s not, everyone’s like Andrew just says it’s Tia’s shoulders there versus Tia’s shoulders there. And I go, the biggest point I made was at the end of the video, which I’m upset about because I understand people usually don’t make it there, but it’s the 20 to 30 people that I know who have openly had conversations with me about their use and the ups and the downs and the mental attitude that they go through and the how they feel with it’s the anecdotal shit. And it will give me a lot of more insight I’m sure as well.

Sevan Matossian (25:50):

And, and, and, and basically then you’d just make a video like once a week, like one of your weekly videos would be ju the juice step update, the juice update.

Andrew Hiller (25:59):

Correct. Got, and, uh, fucking how here by, by wa zombie it’s a Hiller on TT would be ridiculous. And that might not be true because if my numbers are in range, it would be almost pointless to go on T but there are other things that I can do through California hormones. That would be beneficial cuz they do, uh, did, did, did you, did she show you that a little, the box that they send out? So like once you qualify and once you get your blood work done, it’s cool that there’s, there’s preloaded syringes that they send to you insulin syringes, which we talked about in the other show, which means that they don’t hurt when you use ’em

Sevan Matossian (26:39):

Dude. The whole thing was amazing. The whole facility’s amazing. Everything they do over there is amazing.

Andrew Hiller (26:45):

When is the California hormones games? Harry J

Sevan Matossian (26:50):


Andrew Hiller (26:51):

If you give Hitler T he would turn into Hitler. That looks good.

Sevan Matossian (26:55):

<laugh> I, I think we’ll see the games in 2023. I, I I’m, I’m uh, 51, uh, confident of that.

Andrew Hiller (27:06):

51% confident of what

Sevan Matossian (27:06):

That we’ll see the California hormone games in 2023.

Andrew Hiller (27:11):

Uh, I, I would say that 51% is accurate.

Sevan Matossian (27:14):

Yeah. And if, and if I really, I, but, but, but, but if you had to a like, if you, part of me is also, it’s like a hundred percent sure. I just don’t want to get you like

Andrew Hiller (27:24):

Anyone excited. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (27:26):

Completely outta your mind. It’s a hundred percent, but I’m 51%. Sure.

Andrew Hiller (27:30):

Well, you know, you know what might be cool about this entire thing too, is if we do it right. And the thing that I learned about that lab is you can test anything exactly the way Wata would did. So you went to the lab, right. And I know that I, I might be a bit better at mosquito first than you are in a couple of the things like there’s a machine he goes

Sevan Matossian (27:52):

And all the things and all the things in all the,

Andrew Hiller (27:53):

All the things well over there in particular, cuz I’ve kind of obsessed over it for some time I’m walking around. I’m like, this is what that machine looks like. He goes, yeah, it’s only like a half million dollar machine, but it could also just like pick out what it is. And it would be cool if on my channel I could try to, um, get by certain tests and show how to do that and why it’s rather than just like, oh, you know, hunter Hiller, do you have proof? Do you’ve proof to you’ve proof? It’s like, well maybe I don’t need it. Maybe this is the only proof you need to show how easy it is. It would kinda tear. It would tear shit up.

Sevan Matossian (28:27):

Oh, Hey, are you allowed to open? Are you allowed to enter the open? If you’re juicing?

Andrew Hiller (28:32):

I wouldn’t.

Sevan Matossian (28:34):

Oh, you wouldn’t.

Andrew Hiller (28:35):

I wouldn’t.

Sevan Matossian (28:37):

Well, um, what, it would be interesting to just keep going until they test you and you just test positive or don’t what if you don’t test POS what if, why don’t you just enter the games and just see if like,

Andrew Hiller (28:49):

You know what, well right here there’s I don’t know how many live people are watching or how many people end up watching this, but everyone’s aware of what I’m thinking about. And at some point or another, I’ll put it out there that it’s gonna be happening if I’m doing it. And that’s the entire purpose. Everyone knows the then thing that would then be happening is am I doing it? And if I’m doing it, everyone knows I’m doing it and let’s see what CrossFits next move would be. When do I get the random drug test as the guy who literally is telling the world that it’s happening? Wouldn’t that be nuts?

Sevan Matossian (29:22):

Um, and yeah. And, and, and here’s the thing too. I wonder. So let’s say, let’s say you won the CrossFit games and you’re up there and you say you, you juiced. I don’t think, I don’t think they, what, I don’t think you lose. I don’t think they take money from you cuz you admit to it. I think they still have to te I’m guessing the protocol is that you have to, I don’t think you can go into a police station and be like, I killed someone and they just start and they fucking lock you up. If you can’t fucking show them the body and prove that they prove that you did it, then I, I think you’re good to go.

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