#553 – Killing the Fat Man, Catching Up with Gary Roberts

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

I’m like, damn we’re live. No shit. Well that happened.

Mattew Souza (00:03):


Sevan Matossian (00:04):

Gary. Robert’s coming on the show tonight.

Mattew Souza (00:07):


Sevan Matossian (00:08):

Gary Roberts.

Mattew Souza (00:13):

I feel like that mic instead of gives you a real like radio voice right there.

Sevan Matossian (00:17):

Hiller Hiller called me today. He’s like, Hey, we haven’t talked in a while. I was like, I know, fuck. He doesn’t normally call me. I call him. So like, when I’m like, it’s weird. He doesn’t, he doesn’t really ever call. I, I just call him. But today he called me. It was weird. He just wanted to check in.

Mattew Souza (00:36):

Yeah, it was too long. Before he called him, he was getting a little nervous.

Sevan Matossian (00:40):

I think I was, I think I need to play more hard to get with him.

Mattew Souza (00:44):

Yeah. Little break was good. You know, you let him, you let him come after you a little bit. Let

Sevan Matossian (00:48):

Him chase you. I was like calling him like five times a day. <laugh> he? He was in the rotation. <laugh> and then, and then he, and then he is like, today, he called like, Hey, it’s been a while. He didn’t, he didn’t even have the Hiller. Didn’t even have the guts to tell me it’s been a while. He’s like, my girlfriend told me that it’s been awhile since we talked. <laugh> he, he didn’t even have the vulnerability to say it was him

Mattew Souza (01:09):

To put himself out there. He had to get, yeah, go through that second person.

Sevan Matossian (01:13):

I, I think it’s okay to say, share this right. It’s part of my shtick. It’s not like, oh, what’s this what’s uh,

Mattew Souza (01:19):

The first, are you talking about the notes?

Sevan Matossian (01:22):

Uh, no, no, no. I think it’s yeah, the notes too, but I think it’s okay to share that. Like normally I wouldn’t share personal phone calls, but like, I think it’s okay to share that. It’s it’s funny. Right? It’s like part of his Shick. It shows the intimacy between Hiller and I, without revealing too much to where he would be offended. He’s not gonna call me and be like, dude, that wasn’t cool. You, you shared that <laugh>

Mattew Souza (01:39):

No, I don’t think so. That was, it was the perfect amount let’s do. Maybe people were wondering, we didn’t have him on the Hillard and weekend review on Sunday, so

Sevan Matossian (01:48):

Rest. And he did, he did say this to me too. He’s like, Hey, are you lick your WOS from the game? I go, I am. He goes me too. It’s weird. It’s um, it’s um, I didn’t Dr. Uh, Tony, I didn’t drive through Bakersfield. Uh, did I, I drive down the five. I drove down the five. I don’t think I drive through Bakersfield close though. I think that the highest I saw the temp get was 94. I am sweating like a pig though. I just did a hundred burpees with, um, I, I fasted for 36 hours, probably like 40, almost 48 hours showed up to Newport. Went straight to the bar, had a bloody Mary came back, met the benefactor, California hormones. Then went back to the bar with her, had two vodkas and red bull. Then I know you guys really,

Mattew Souza (02:35):

That that’s unusual for you.

Sevan Matossian (02:36):

Yeah, because I was falling asleep. So now I’m probably like 48 hours fasting, but just with three crazy drinks, bloody marrying two vodkas and red bulls

Mattew Souza (02:43):


Sevan Matossian (02:44):

We did. Then I went for like a two mile walk while my boys skateboarded. And then I came home and did a hundred burpees, just like to kind of like clear my mind for the show. So if I seem in a unique state it’s cuz of that, <laugh> that’s the, those are the chemical compounds. I still haven’t eaten. I think I had a little bit of chicken, a tiny bit of chicken, probably like three ounces of chicken, two ounces.

Mattew Souza (03:06):


Sevan Matossian (03:08):

Oh, look at Eric Wise. I called it three deep <laugh> yeah,

Mattew Souza (03:11):

You did.

Sevan Matossian (03:13):

You could tell, you know, me and a hundred burpees. Come on, man. I kind, he so

Mattew Souza (03:18):


Sevan Matossian (03:22):

Uh, tomorrow morning we have Trevor cashey on, uh, a, a brilliant guy, super duper duper, duper brilliant, uh, rolls with some fucking high rollers. Uh, he is a PhD biochemist. We’ve had him on the show before a trippy cat, Stony cat, um, uh, specialist in, um, training, weight loss, and a sober thinker, extremely sober in his thinking and logic. I’m excited to have Monaro. I got a bunch of notes. Um, and it’s gonna be fun to talk to him about the, I’m gonna try to, I’m gonna go through some of his videos and ask him about that, but I’m gonna try to lure him into the deep end. Again. Last time I tried to lure him into a discussion of the difference between reality and thoughts, right? So the, the example that I always use on the show is sex, uh, which is male, female versus gender, which is in your thoughts and sex is real it’s on the outside, the penis and the vagina. And last show, he kind of said that there is no, uh, there is no difference, but there is a difference. Hmm. And I got a, uh, I got another example too, this time I’m gonna tell him, um, like jealousy, jealousy is only in your head. It’s not in the outside world.

Mattew Souza (04:28):


Sevan Matossian (04:28):

That’s a good one. It does not exist. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So I’m gonna try to lure him into the deep end using that Gary Roberts. What’s up. Got buddy.

Gary Roberts (04:34):

What’s up man? What’s up? What’s up? What’s <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (04:38):

Hey, did you just work out too?

Gary Roberts (04:39):

Yes, sir.

Sevan Matossian (04:40):

Yeah, me too.

Gary Roberts (04:43):


Sevan Matossian (04:44):

Is gonk but still worked out

Gary Roberts (04:45):

<laugh> dead lifts, kettlebell swings, uh, squats, fun times, fun times,

Sevan Matossian (04:54):

Ladies and gentlemen, there is a company called CrossFit, LLC. It used to be called CrossFit, Inc. It was founded by Greg Glassman in the early two thousands. It’s a, uh, fitness and lifestyle methodology with its foundation being nutrition, which is bizarre, cuz most of the people who follow it don’t even know that. And the foundation is nutrition and it is a hardcore lifestyle, personal accountability lifestyle, where you take responsibility for your health and wellness and wellbeing and it empowers you. And although it is new based in nutrition and movement, it bleeds over into the brain because as you become more independent, physically, you become in more independent and thought and you start understanding how to think correctly. Um, and when, uh, during, during the, the upcoming of this company, the internet sort of took off at the same time. Some of you take the internet for granted, but there was a time when this company started where the internet really wasn’t a thing.

Sevan Matossian (05:52):

And then around 2006 and 2007, the internet started having, um, bandwidth speeds, fast enough to where you could upload pictures in videos. That’s when I came onto the scene. And then, uh, at that time I was also working with a man named Gary Roberts in the arm wrestling scene. This was like, uh, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 of the two thousands. And Gary had a very, very innovative company called, um, arm TV, where first subscription, you could watch arm wrestlers, arm wrestl. And he could brought the whole entire planet together on this website. It was fucking gnarly. And then YouTube came along and YouTube even democratized it even more. And it’s the irony is that I use the word democratization because now the things like, uh, YouTube and Facebook and Twitter and Instagram that we’re supposed to democratize this now instead our fucking big brothers, which is fucking bizarre, but that sort of caused Gary to rethink his business model because arm TV was no longer exclusive in its, um, <laugh> arm.

Sevan Matossian (06:49):

TV was no longer exclusive in it, showcasing of arm talent all around the world and everyone could upload it from their phones. Um, at that time, Gary and I, because I was following the arm wrestling world at that time, also Gary and I had a, a close friendship. Uh, we were the only two videographers in the arm, wrestling space around the world, in the world. Uh, I came across CrossFit. He said, Hey, uh, what do you, uh, at that time he told me he was gonna run a marathon to lose some weight. And I said, Hey dude, why don’t you do CrossFit?

Gary Roberts (07:22):


Sevan Matossian (07:24):

I forgot ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen. My story has been hijacked by a man taking California hormones. I wish I could tell you. We had this planned out ahead of time. I wish I could tell you I was drunk and this whole thing was planned out.

Gary Roberts (07:40):

It’s just B roll.

Sevan Matossian (07:41):

Hey, you’re not supposed to push it in. Aren’t you supposed to

Mattew Souza (07:45):

Do? Wait.

Gary Roberts (07:46):

No, you gotta, you gotta prime it,

Sevan Matossian (07:50):

Dude. Shouldn’t the bottle be the other way, Gary. This

Mattew Souza (07:53):

Is too

Sevan Matossian (07:54):

Good. No wonder you don’t know what you’re doing. The bottle. What the fuck is going on

Gary Roberts (07:59):


Gary Roberts (08:00):

They don’t give me enough. The needle doesn’t reach the other way, bro.

Sevan Matossian (08:04):


Sevan Matossian (08:07):

Uh, ladies and gentlemen, Gary Roberts is, uh, oh my gosh. Alyssa car. Rido I’m uncomfortable. You should be uncomfortable. Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. Those are nice shorts. Oh my God. Look at her butt.

Mattew Souza (08:26):


Sevan Matossian (08:27):

Can we run the California? Can we run the California hormones banner on the bottle this time? Shouldn’t that go? Closer to your ball sack. Shouldn’t that go closer to your ballsack the fuck. Did I just I’m a nurse and this is not kosher. <laugh> that’s what your mom said. Hey, I’m pretty sure I saw him use this drop. Oh my God. I can see the muscles growing. Oh,

Gary Roberts (09:00):

Oh, <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (09:06):

Alexander hitch. Alexanders it right in the, oh my goodness.

Gary Roberts (09:15):

<laugh> oh, oh my goodness. Sorry.

Sevan Matossian (09:24):

I didn’t mean to no, no, I didn’t mean to interrupt your scheduled, uh, your scheduled injection. So at that point, Gary, um, said, Hey, I’m gonna run a marathon. And I said, okay, why don’t you do CrossFit? Instead? He said, okay. And I go, why don’t we film it and make it into a series? And we made the series, Cal, uh, California hormones. We made the series killing the fat man season one. And it ended up being the most popular series in the history of CrossFit, outside of games, content, I think the first episode as more than a million views.

Gary Roberts (09:54):

Yep. Actually more importantly

Sevan Matossian (09:56):

Than that. Yeah. Um, 10, can you pop it up on the screen? Tens of thousands of people had their lives changed from this series and, and Gary, how often do you get hit up on Facebook? Instagram? I mean, that’s how old is that? Is it five years? 10 years old. How old is it?

Gary Roberts (10:11):

It’s we hit our 10 year anniversary than that. Yeah. Little older than that. Yeah. We had our 10 year anniversary,

Sevan Matossian (10:21):

A million. So episode one has 1,000,080 thousand views. Yep. How many comments? How

Gary Roberts (10:27):

Many comments? Over a million? I cannot read it. Any of that without 300 and 332.

Sevan Matossian (10:33):

It’s awesome.

Gary Roberts (10:34):

I get, I get, I get messages at least weekly. Now it used to be like multiple daily, but I, I always get people checking on me. They wanna know how I’m doing,

Sevan Matossian (10:49):

Dude. You look exactly the same. It’s crazy. You didn’t even age.

Gary Roberts (10:56):

I, somebody said they thought I was in my thirties the other day. That’s positive. I am 49 bitches.

Sevan Matossian (11:05):

Yeah, crazy. So, so Gary lost a ton of weight. Um, and uh, it’s 15 episodes. I highly recommend you watch it. Then we did a season two and now we are embarking in season three. It is not a CrossFit production though. It is a California hormones. That’s with an H O R not a w hormones.

Gary Roberts (11:27):

<laugh> uh, seven Matossian production,

Sevan Matossian (11:31):

Uh, a California hormones, Gary Roberts partnership. I am simply the foyer, Gary. So

Gary Roberts (11:43):

What’s up, man?

Sevan Matossian (11:44):

Hi. I called, I called you, um, I don’t know, a few months ago. And we started talking again and I was like, how are you doing? And can you tell me, can we protect? Can we fake that conversation for the group?

Gary Roberts (11:58):

Yeah, yeah,

Sevan Matossian (11:58):

Yeah. <laugh> because you said some shit that kind of, that freaked me out a little bit and scared me. So after season, so after season two, you met a new woman and you have two babies now.

Gary Roberts (12:08):

Yeah. I, I forgot when everyone’s, when everyone says, Hey, what precipitated your, your recent fall off? Because I have had babies on the mind. I,

Sevan Matossian (12:26):

I keep I fall off. You mean what caused you to gain weight again? Yeah.

Gary Roberts (12:29):

Yeah. I keep attributing into having children, but it, but mofo, it preceded that and I totally forgot. And then a hundred percent ties in. I cannot believe I forgot all this. Maybe because it was such a traumatic experience that my brain sort of blocked it out. But, uh, do you, it really begins with when you called me to fire me from CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (12:59):

Ah, tell me about that. I don’t even remember that.

Gary Roberts (13:01):

<laugh> do you remember? No. You don’t remember.

Sevan Matossian (13:06):

Tell me, tell me what, tell me, tell me, tell me.

Gary Roberts (13:09):

I at the time had been commuting about an hour and 15 minutes since I met a girl and fell in love. I was living at her house in Oakland. I was commuting to Santa Cruz and you called me in the morning and you’re like, uh, uh, Gary, before we begin, I got so and so from HR on the line <laugh> and I was like, well, that’s weird. <laugh> why, why is so and so from HR on the line and you’re like, Gary, I hate to do this we’re buddies. I love you, but I wanna save you the drive, the drive into HQ today. I’m sorry, buddy. But uh, I have to let you go and you, something

Sevan Matossian (13:47):

Happened, your microphone just now, Gary, something happened to your microphone. Did you hit it? Or

Gary Roberts (13:50):

I, there you, you said, uh, I’m sorry, but I have to let you go. And, and the first thing that I thought was, I said, are we still friends? <laugh> like, you’re like, of course I was like, okay. The songs were still friends. Stand

Sevan Matossian (14:08):

By, stand by one second. You listen, Kenneth. They probably told, fuck me. They were gonna fire Gary. And I demanded that I be on the phone. Yeah, don’t get this fucking crooked. They tried to make it. So I couldn’t fucking let go of my people.

Gary Roberts (14:24):


Sevan Matossian (14:25):

Don’t don’t, don’t a, don’t don’t get this twisted. There were, there were over, they fired a hundred people under me and 50 of them. I demanded that I’d be there for all of them and they only let me be there for 50 of them and they threaten to fire me. So don’t get this twisted. Yeah. Yeah. And anything that you think bad about me is wrong ever. Okay.

Gary Roberts (14:42):

And you said, I, you know, I’d hate for you to drive into the office this morning. Yeah. That’s a long drive just to turn around and drive home from, from Oakland. And I completely appreciate that. Um, so anyways,

Sevan Matossian (14:58):

Hey, you guys have to also know this. I would do anything. And Gary, can you tell me to fuck off? If this is wrong, I would do anything. And you ask even the people who hate me at HQ, I would do anything to fight for my guys. Listen, put my job on the line. So many times to fight for my

Gary Roberts (15:12):

Guys. I don’t want, I don’t wanna get specific cuz,

Sevan Matossian (15:16):

But you can no get specific. It’s fine. It’s fine. If, if you think I was an asshole to you, I want you to say it.

Gary Roberts (15:20):

I mean, no, it’s just cuz we, we don’t, we don’t have time, but I would just hate say to the people that seven on Matian did so many things for me throughout my years at CrossFit that he could have fired me 50 times and I still wouldn’t have been. I, he, I still would be forever indebted to the man. Like

Sevan Matossian (15:42):

I may not have humility, but I’m a fucking good dude

Gary Roberts (15:44):

For instance seven. And I, we were in Scotland. One time we were working on some CrossFit projects, I was kicking my butt and then we were getting ready to go back and he goes,

Sevan Matossian (15:52):

We went to Scotland together.

Gary Roberts (15:54):

<laugh> yeah. Yeah. He goes, he goes, Hey, I upgraded you to first class. Oh good dude. Like you let me take first class on the way home. It was like,

Sevan Matossian (16:03):

Did I make you gimme a handy?

Gary Roberts (16:05):

No, it’s just like, just like one that’s one. This comes at a price still. I’m just saying that’s one of like a thousand things that you did out of kindness. Like, Hey you’re first class going home. Like I gave you some of

Sevan Matossian (16:19):

My mind, Hey, only person I’ve ever met who works harder than you is uh, Lauren kil not including Matt, Susie <laugh>.

Gary Roberts (16:26):

So anyways, one of the, I promise this story is going someplace.

Sevan Matossian (16:33):

I keep interrupting you cause I’ve had three drinks keep going.

Gary Roberts (16:35):

But uh, when you guys had, let me go, I got a severance check and I had always one of the biggest things about losing all that weight is that I hated, hated all this loose skin on my, on my belly. And so the minutes you guys issued me, a severance check, I immediately went to, uh, a doctor who does, uh, certain,

Sevan Matossian (17:05):

I think we talked. I think you and I talked about that a

Gary Roberts (17:07):

Little bit too. Yeah. Yeah. But I totally, we did talk about it, but I totally forgot that the recovery on that F me up for a long time,

Sevan Matossian (17:19):

Explain, explain. So let me get this right. So you’re saying that you lost all this weight. You went from 2 65 to 2 0 5. You had all this extra skin and you wanted to remove it. And now you’re saying that that fucked you up.

Gary Roberts (17:31):

It, I mean it effed me up twofold one so that they surgically, they surgically cut from here all the way around. And they basically tore the skin up to my titties and stretched it down. So this belly button is skin that used to be up here. Okay. They stretched it down. And, and all the research I did from this surgery, nobody told me that, that when they removed that skin from your body, that they kill all they kill. You become numb for months. My entire mid drift was numb. I couldn’t feel it. And I couldn’t. I mean, one just from the exercise. I mean, from the surgery, you can’t exercise for like, I don’t know, let’s say four to

Sevan Matossian (18:18):

Six weeks. What do you mean they don’t? When you went in for your consultation to have that skin removed, they don’t say to you, Hey, you’re just so you know, one of the side effects is you’re gonna be numb there.

Gary Roberts (18:27):

No, never.

Sevan Matossian (18:28):

I that’s like when you buy pair Nobles, they don’t tell you. Oh, by the way we support putting, uh, men in women’s sports or we, we, they don’t tell you that when you buy Nobles. So I guess I understand. Okay.

Gary Roberts (18:39):

When I went back for the month checkup, I said, doctor, why, why do I not feel the entire middle section of my body? Like, he’s like, oh yeah. That’s just, it, it, it grows back in a millimeter a month. You’re feeling. And I couldn’t, I literal it, it jacked up my, my working out.

Sevan Matossian (18:59):

You think circumcising, um, boys is okay. You think that’s okay?

Gary Roberts (19:03):

I, I did not circums my son because I didn’t like that. I didn’t get to choose.

Sevan Matossian (19:09):


Gary Roberts (19:09):

I left him free. I left him free.

Sevan Matossian (19:11):

Yeah. I know. That’s hard for a lot of you. I know it’s hard for a lot of you guys. I know. I’m gonna tell you something about circumcision. There’s a movie called American circumcision. I dare you to watch it. And I want you to know something that the same membrane that attaches your fingernail to your finger, hold your four skin to the head of your penis. And when you circumcised a baby, it rips that membrane off the helmet. And instead of allowing it to attach naturally over a few years, and then eventually the four skin falls back <laugh> I’m telling you, bro, Hey, this is your appropriate time to bring this up. This is an appropriate time. You genital mutilation is fucking like nuts, but go on. Okay. So your skin, sorry.

Gary Roberts (19:53):

So I, I wanna, I want to get something, I want to tell you a discovery that I had.

Sevan Matossian (19:58):

So thank you, Susan.

Gary Roberts (19:59):

All. When I used to gain the weight, all the weight went, went outside of my, outside of my, uh, you have the weight, the fat that’s external to your organs. And then the, the internal and everyone, I guess tells me the internal fat is the dangerous fat. Have you heard that?

Sevan Matossian (20:22):

Like the fat? Yeah. The stuff that’s on your organs is not the good stuff. You don’t want that.

Gary Roberts (20:25):

Like, that’s not the good stuff. So what fat. Yeah. Yeah. So when I had them remove all that area, when I started to gain weight back one, because of that hell of a recovery from the surgery, then the pandemic hit then having children. And I, it just snowballed this, you know, the lack of diet and exercise. Anyways, when I started to gain the weight back, the fat on my body went internal because they removed the fat cells where they used to be all the fat went internal inside my guts and right around the time that you called me was right around. And so since killing the fat man, I lost my father, my father, who was featured in the first season. And we talked about him in the second season. He, he passed away last Thanksgiving. Uh, my beautiful father, um, you know, the lifestyle, the sedentary lifestyle is what caught up to him.

Gary Roberts (21:34):

I also have another family member who had esophageal cancer. And it, it primarily, they say the esophageal cancer comes from acid reflex, like years of acid reflex and what I was experienced, I feel like I don’t, I’m not a big divine intervention type guy, but I, I swear to you seven, the week you called me, like the week I had experienced maybe 10, 10 days in a row. I, so my wife during pregnancy got acid reflux. My brother always told me he got acid reflux. My dad always said he had acid reflex. And I said, even during those years of being overweight,

Sevan Matossian (22:16):

I think that’s common for pregnant women, by the way.

Gary Roberts (22:18):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because the babies, you know, taken up the room. I, I never experienced it. All my fats was always hanging on the outside. I never had that problem, but because I had that surgery, it, I hit this breaking point where I was just eating regular meals and I was getting full. Uh, like imagine if you had the gastro bypass, I feel like that was happening naturally because the fat was getting so condensed into my, into my organs, that it was squeezing my ability to have like a normal meal. And the, the acid reflux was coming up and I was getting really concerned. I was popping, uh, the, the Tums. And I was like, I was scared to tell my wife. I was like, I never had this before. And it’s literally getting bad. You called me literally that week. And you’re like, Hey buddy, how’s your fitness. And of course I’m like, I’m like telling you exactly what happened to that me week. And you were, you know, kind of panicked of course, which I, I was, but I hadn’t verbalized it to anyone. Anyways. You

Sevan Matossian (23:28):

Tell I was panicked. You could tell I was panicked little.

Gary Roberts (23:31):

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, Travis bad, Travis called me two days later. He’s like, dude, what’s up? What’s up? What’s up? And I was like, oh

Sevan Matossian (23:39):

Yeah, I called Travis. I’m like, oh, could we hold on one second? Uh, Johnny, Johnny, my whole boy said he’s had hard time getting oral. Cause he’s not circumcised chicks. Don’t wanna touch it. Oh yeah. Girls only wanna put a mutilated penis into their mouth. You’re right. Fucking jackass thousands serve buddy. Well, Chamberlain’s on my jock. I’m not gonna be, sorry. Go ahead

Gary Roberts (24:07):

To my wife. Go ahead. Okay. So, so listen, listen, listen. Since I’ve started back at CrossFit, interestingly enough, the very first I told you, I was like, you know, I’m, I’m not,

Sevan Matossian (24:22):

I wanna, I wanna tell everyone what’s going on here real quick. Sorry. About a couple months ago, I called Gary. I’m like, Hey, what’s up? We checked in, I check in with him every couple months. I had him on the show when I started the first podcast. Again, this podcast, again, I’ve talked to him a couple times since we, we, we have some distant friends, but we’re, we have some deep connections and I called him and he said, Hey dude, I had this fucking skin removed on me. And that when those, when that skin was removed, there were fat cells in there and those fat cells are now gone and they’re gone forever. I can’t remake them. I’m like, what’s the implications of that? He’s like, well now I’ve put on weight. And the fat cells that it’s being stored on are the fat cells that are attached to my organs. And I go, is that bad? He goes, dude, it’s really bad. That’s the last place you want fat? And I said, fuck, I go, Hey dude, we gotta get you in no fucking CrossFit gym right away. And I’m working with this company called California hormones. And let’s did you want to, to be part of another experiment? He said, fuck. Yeah, let’s do it. And part of that experiment, did they, did they ever talk to you about the weight loss stuff too?

Gary Roberts (25:16):

No, we haven’t got into that

Sevan Matossian (25:17):

Part. Okay. Okay. Okay. Can I add,

Gary Roberts (25:20):


Sevan Matossian (25:20):

That’s where

Gary Roberts (25:21):

Can I add that?

Sevan Matossian (25:22):

Yes, yes, yes. Add to it.

Gary Roberts (25:24):

I I’m gonna visualize something for you guys that you’re not gonna UN be able to UN visualize. I’ve never heard anyone describe it before. And I feel like cuz my now weight loss journey has been multiple I’ve I, the wellness to sickness I’ve been back and forth. Now. I, that I’m attuned to my body, both in the healthy state and the sick state. But the other day I was doing MERF <laugh> and in the pushup position, when you go down, if I’m putting 50% of the pressure on my chest cavity and I’m, I’m trying to maintain some form. So I’m not letting a hundred percent of my weight go to the deck and my chest cavity. So it’s compressed. If I let up and I put a hundred percent of my body and I let to chest cavity, go to the deck, I can feel inside my chest cavity, I can feel the fat being displaced from one side of an organ to another. Wow. If you picture a, if you can picture the, you know, the rubber ball where you squeeze it and the rubber will pop out of each finger and if you squeeze it where it balloons over here, if you squeeze this balloon, it’ll shoot through and pop out the other. I can feel the fat being displaced, like a water balloon between my organs and my lungs. When I let, when I come down and I let my chest,

Sevan Matossian (26:53):

Did the doctors tell you about this, Gary? Did they warn you at all? Were they like, Hey dude, like you gotta watch it for this shit. No, they weren’t like, Hey, you can never gain weight again. Cause it’s gonna be on your organs.

Gary Roberts (27:04):

They said, if you gain weight, it goes somewhere else. Like, because we’ve removed that skin, the fat won’t go back right there, ears a risk. It goes somewhere else.

Sevan Matossian (27:19):

Holy smokes.

Gary Roberts (27:23):

But what it, what it means is I am now the stakes one I’m older. It’s harder. It’s harder than it was the first two times around. And now, I mean the stakes have been raised, dude. I, we, we always talk about, you know, you literally are like extending your life by doing this. But I mean, because I made that choice for, you know, really it comes down to ego and visual and I just wanted to look better, but I literally put my, my, my health at more risk. And uh, you know, you can’t go back, but I did what I did, but now I, when I, my wife, I made promises to her and now I’ve been bringing my babies to the gym and they’re seeing me move. It’s like, I have,

Sevan Matossian (28:15):

That’s so badass that you bring your kids to the gym. I know you showed me that the other day. That’s beast mode.

Gary Roberts (28:21):

Yep. I have so much more on the line that I’m like fighting for. And uh,

Sevan Matossian (28:28):

Anyways, what affiliate are you going to?

Gary Roberts (28:30):

Uh, iron valley. CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (28:32):


Gary Roberts (28:32):

State? Oregon city. Oregon city. Travis Mead. Scott’s crazy, dude. He just finished 24 hours of Murf he’s nuts. He does weird. Hey,

Sevan Matossian (28:42):

Crazy. And how long have you been in the CrossFit gym?

Gary Roberts (28:46):

I’ve been at, I’ve been at Travis’s for a month and I was at, uh, CrossFit, Coco, uh, in, uh,

Sevan Matossian (28:53):

CrossFit, cock balls,

Gary Roberts (28:55):

Coco, Coco, Coco,

Sevan Matossian (28:58):

Uh, Kaka.

Gary Roberts (28:58):

I was kow. I was there for a month and that’s in one like Beaverton area. Hillsborough.

Sevan Matossian (29:03):

Oh, you were in CrossFit CA and balls in Beaverton. Um,

Gary Roberts (29:07):

Hey, no, that’s a legitimate affiliate. Is it here? Is this it here? Iron valley. I, uh, iron valley. That’s where I’m at right now. And uh,

Sevan Matossian (29:14):

And how long have you been doing the TRT?

Gary Roberts (29:17):

Uh, let me look it up. It’s been a over, it’s been over a month now. Remember I told you, I told you it, uh, I hadn’t felt anything yet. Like I knew I’d been going back to CrossFit. I knew I’m feeling better, but from the time I spoke to you till now, I feel like a flip, a switch has been flipped. Like I feel like I feel muscles.

Sevan Matossian (29:46):

Let me see that thing. Let me see that thing. Let me see that thing.

Gary Roberts (29:48):

Like there weren’t there weren’t there weren’t there weren’t muscles here before I swear my bicep was, it was missing. And now I’m feeling,

Sevan Matossian (29:57):

How about your mindset when you wake up in the morning? I keep hearing that when you.

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