#533 – Event 8 “Rinse N’ Repeat” Recap

Caleb Beaver (00:00):

I’ll stay in the

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Background. Okay. Uh, bam. We’re live. Uh, is this is this is this leaderboard. Hi Taylor. Is this leaderboard, uh, accurate? The one, uh, that, um, Halpin sent,

Taylor Self (00:12):

Uh, when did he send it, Don? Uh, give me a second.

Sevan Matossian (00:17):

Wanna say the

Taylor Self (00:18):

Z score? The Zco leaderboard.

Sevan Matossian (00:20):

Oh, is that what that is?

Taylor Self (00:21):

I think so. Um,

Sevan Matossian (00:23):

10 26, 10 20 6:00 AM the one that’s in blue,

Taylor Self (00:29):

10:26 AM. Um, to, is, is this to the, oh, okay. Wow. Here we go. Um, this is after swimming stuff. Oh, no,

Sevan Matossian (00:39):

That’s not the Z score is it is the blue one. The Z score.

Taylor Self (00:43):

Okay. This is no, no, no. This is the event he just sent us. Uh,

Sevan Matossian (00:49):

Here’s what I’m looking at is Jason Hopper really in, um, like 10th place.

Taylor Self (00:56):

He lost two places. This is, this is updated based off of the last event,

Sevan Matossian (01:01):

But is it z-score?

Taylor Self (01:03):

No, this is regular.

Sevan Matossian (01:04):

Wow. Holy cow. Yeah. Ricky Gerard 7 54, Justin Madera, 7 38 Romanoff 7 35.

Taylor Self (01:12):

Wow. Roman is dude. This is such a tight fucking race for the top three.

Sevan Matossian (01:17):

Wow. Roman is going for it. Roman is going for it. And, and, uh, pat ner, uh, holding down 10th place at five, uh, 53. Okay. Jason Hopper’s down at, uh, 15. Uh, okay. All right. Um, can we pull up the, uh, can we go to CrossFit games? Thank you, Kevin. Can we go to CrossFit games.com, check out their leaderboard and see if they are updated. Mike Halpin. Thank you. Crazy. How much awesome work do you do? Uh, Philippe the hacker. Uh, they showed it in the venue on the screen. So they had it connected.

Taylor Self (01:50):

It says, GUI, hold on. GUI is not, the cut line is 30,

Sevan Matossian (01:56):

But we have two more workouts today.

Taylor Self (01:59):

We’ve got two more workouts, but the cut line is 30. GE is someone in the comments of saying GE is outside of the cut and that is incorrect,

Sevan Matossian (02:05):

But the cut hasn’t happened yet.

Taylor Self (02:07):

No, doesn’t the cut happens tonight.

Sevan Matossian (02:09):

Okay. So we have two more workouts. Let’s do that. Let’s just go straight down there. Uh, Caleb, let’s go down to, uh, 20, let’s go down to 25 to 35.

Taylor Self (02:18):

Well, Caleb, can you pull up this blue leaderboard? Uh, it’s

Sevan Matossian (02:22):

Why this one’s why this one’s not updated,

Taylor Self (02:24):

Not updated. The blue one is the updated leader board.

Sevan Matossian (02:27):

Are you kidding me? That

Taylor Self (02:28):


Sevan Matossian (02:29):

No, it hasn’t. It has rinse and repeat.

Taylor Self (02:31):

No, it has it in there, but the points are off.

Sevan Matossian (02:33):

All right. All

Taylor Self (02:34):

Right. I promise Jason is in 10th right now. He’s in 12th after rinse and repeat.

Sevan Matossian (02:41):

Okay. Uh, wow. Dolan pepper really needed that.

Taylor Self (02:45):

Well, here’s the deal. And, uh, me and Jr were arguing about this over text. So I’ll present his argument first on this prince and repeat workout and Jr is saying, and a lot of people are saying that it’s just a big guy workout. Uh, and that the biggest guys who are the best at the machines did the best in the event, um, to be Frank looking at the leaderboard, that is just not the case. There is a correlation that there are big guys who did well in the event, but those big guys had to have the requisite, swimming, skill, capacity, efficiency, and whatnot. Uh, a perfect,

Sevan Matossian (03:22):

Janowskis not a big guy. He took third.

Taylor Self (03:24):

Exactly. You have to look at Jason. Hopper’s a perfect example. Fantastic skier,

Sevan Matossian (03:30):

And everyone else is huge, but everyone else is huge. Sorry, go ahead.

Taylor Self (03:33):

Well, just look at Jason. He’s one of the best on the machines in the sport period. Uh, as good as Roman and some things may be better. He took 20 seconds in that event, simply because of the swim. Um, and I think overall looking at the guys who finished best in that workout have the

Sevan Matossian (03:53):

Record really big wasn’t enough. You had to be big and be able to,

Taylor Self (03:56):

And be able to swim. So look at Samuel qu one swimming stuff in the 2020 games lizard. Juki fantastic. Swimmer Brent. OWK probably the biggest guy in the field, but also one of the best swimmers, Justin, Maderas nowhere near the biggest guy in the field. Fantastic swimmer elite capacity Cole ser again, you think of capacity. Uh,

Sevan Matossian (04:17):

Great. So no, no Cole, G shaver

Taylor Self (04:19):

Cole, ser and gray shaver capacity.

Sevan Matossian (04:21):


Taylor Self (04:23):

Um, so again, you just scroll down the leaderboard. The one outlier is gime B and those, the one question mark going into this event was what does his actual capacity look like? Does he have the capacity that the best in the sport have? He’s a rookie and as evidenced by this event, he doesn’t, but the swim kept him in the top 15. You look at guys like Roman DNI, all of them have elite swimming. All of them have great capacity. It just varies to a degree. Roman has better capacity than swimming. Yana. Koski has better swimming than capacity, their overall, relatively close. Would you have ever picked Yana Koski to be within six calories of Roman credit off in a machine workout? Fuck, no, no, no way. But the swimming was important.

Sevan Matossian (05:06):

Uh, and Koski was pulling the machine hard too. You can’t take anything away. No,

Taylor Self (05:10):

You can’t take anything away from him, but the swimming mattered. So to say that the swimming didn’t matter is just incorrect. It just both were more equally weighted than maybe I expected. Um,

Sevan Matossian (05:22):

Did any men not make it to the, um, I, I know some women, uh, FEO, uh, uh, Sarah Kai. Is that her name? Spencer, uh, car Caroline, Spencer and Rebecca fussier. Didn’t make it to the, uh, all

Taylor Self (05:34):

Of the

Sevan Matossian (05:35):

Browns, all the,

Taylor Self (05:36):

All of the men made it. Yeah. And, and another important thing to note Vener who is fantastic on machines, probably some of the best capacity in the sport and has a big guy 30th in the event. Why can you answer that? Why

Sevan Matossian (05:49):

SIM Simin, there

Taylor Self (05:50):

You go.

Sevan Matossian (05:52):

Simin and, and may maybe not slow, but just not efficient gas,

Taylor Self (05:55):

Not, not efficient

Sevan Matossian (05:56):

Gas. Um, Andrew Hiller. Hi.

Andrew Hiller (06:00):

Hi. How are you doing?

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

Do you wanna party

Andrew Hiller (06:02):

Let’s party? I’m right. A party. I a hole with some good wifi. I’m I’m in the media hole, outside the media hole. I’m like in the unofficial media pit.

Sevan Matossian (06:12):


Andrew Hiller (06:12):


Sevan Matossian (06:13):

Or at the Alliant energy. Uh

Andrew Hiller (06:16):

I’m. I’m at the, uh, Alliant energy center, I think SU is over at the swim center. Right.

Sevan Matossian (06:21):

Okay. Yeah. Did you go to the swim event today?

Andrew Hiller (06:24):

I did not. I, I found a spot where it was quiet so I could watch the event though. Cause I’ve been missing out on all the events.

Sevan Matossian (06:30):


Andrew Hiller (06:31):

Fly at least. So I was watching it. How’d you guys like it? Taylor?

Taylor Self (06:35):

I, I thought it was a great event. Uh, I don’t think it needed to be, oh, that long swimming. It was all about the swimming. No, no. I think that long was okay. I, what I, what I mean by that is I don’t think the event needed to be changed to, to wait the swimming anymore than it was. It was, it was pretty balanced in my opinion,

Andrew Hiller (06:50):

What was the change?

Taylor Self (06:51):

It didn’t change, but people are, a lot of people are saying, oh, the swimming, wasn’t a factor. It wasn’t hard enough. It should have been, you know,

Andrew Hiller (06:58):

So that’s what I just jumped in on where you were talking about the governor. Okay. Yeah.

Taylor Self (07:01):


Sevan Matossian (07:02):

Hey, I, I, I personally love the event if, but if you, um, I don’t think if you’re not, if you’re not, if you didn’t know it was going on ahead of time, there’s no fucking way you were gonna sit down and watch that and understand that. And I, and may, maybe you can’t with any sport, maybe you can’t with any sport.

Andrew Hiller (07:21):

I agree. Well, so

Sevan Matossian (07:22):

With the end, really complicated

Andrew Hiller (07:24):

Calories. And you’re like, is that a lot at the end of it? Their screaming? Is that a, a, I dunno, is that a lot

Sevan Matossian (07:30):

Or how they were even the scoring, how they were scoring? I, it, it, it, uh, it was it’s complex. It’s complex. I mean, so is this, I, I remember, you know, being six years old and watching the NFL for the first time and being like, man, this, this is a mess. This is hard to follow. So maybe they’re like

Andrew Hiller (07:48):

Growing up.

Sevan Matossian (07:50):

Yeah. Well, boxing’s kind of cool at least because dudes are getting punched and you kind, if the dude’s laying down, you know, he lost.

Andrew Hiller (07:56):

Yeah, correct. Yeah.

Taylor Self (07:56):

It’s a fight, you know, it’s one, guy’s one and the other guy’s getting his ass kicked.

Andrew Hiller (08:00):

This is the second event where I got a feel for Adrian talking about that article that he referenced back similar to the shoulder overhead and the running where it’s like there’s one event, which is a score that does the second event, which is score. And this is the second one where it’s like, you can be very powerful on the machine and you’re going to show that, but only if you’re good enough to get there exactly. Referencing that article, that classman wrote in 2003. So it was cool to see another one like that, in my opinion. I

Taylor Self (08:23):

Love that. I love that. And Jason’s a perfect example, fucking insane on the machines, but you’ve just gotta be a better swimmer to get there and to show it. Cuz if you’re inefficient, you’re not gonna have, did

Andrew Hiller (08:34):

You guys talk about how impressive he was last night on that handstand push up?

Sevan Matossian (08:37):


Taylor Self (08:37):

Yeah. Oh yeah. Insane.

Andrew Hiller (08:39):

Okay. Just okay. Incredibly impressed. I was sitting there was like, oh shit. Awesome.

Sevan Matossian (08:44):

What he taking that second, second.

Taylor Self (08:46):

Yeah. He’s very good at handstand pushups. Surprisingly, a lot of people don’t you look at how big he is and you think he wouldn’t be, but his shoulders are ridiculous.

Sevan Matossian (08:56):

Uh, can we pull up the, um, the official Lido board that Mike Halpin has, uh, brought us

Taylor Self (09:03):

<laugh> let’s see if the game’s updated.

Sevan Matossian (09:06):

And then, and then I wanna ask you guys a couple questions here and then we’re gonna go over and talk about the women’s swimming

Andrew Hiller (09:12):

And for Brian.

Sevan Matossian (09:13):


Taylor Self (09:14):


Sevan Matossian (09:15):

Okay. Let’s

Taylor Self (09:16):

Zoom in on that. If we

Sevan Matossian (09:17):

Can. There’s two, there’s two things I want to talk about here. Um, how many points are left?

Taylor Self (09:25):

500 points.

Sevan Matossian (09:26):

Okay. So there can still be a lot of movement on the, uh, leaderboard. I can’t see the points that everyone has, the way that’s organized.

Taylor Self (09:34):

Um, yeah, you’re gonna have to.

Sevan Matossian (09:36):

Okay, awesome. So, so Ricky, Gerard is, uh, how

Taylor Self (09:41):

He’s in first place by 16 points.

Sevan Matossian (09:45):

So none of, so Ricky and Justin and Roman, they cannot mess up. They have to have top five finishes if they haven’t out of top five, finish any of them. Then all of a sudden sax and Patrick Jeffrey Adler and Sam will come become relevant.

Taylor Self (10:00):

No, I don’t think so with, with, ah, with 500 here’s here’s the deal. They can’t have a colossal fuck up, but all three of them are 135 points over fourth place. So they could all three sit out an event and still remain in the top three. Um, what they can’t have is they just can’t have a big fuck up. Um,

Sevan Matossian (10:22):

Sitting out would be a huge fuck up.

Taylor Self (10:24):

It would be a huge fuck up <laugh> but if they sat out an event, then if Roman Koff sits out an event, he still got a 34 point lead over Sam quant. If Sam quant wins the event that he sat out.

Sevan Matossian (10:36):

So Neil Manwani is Hillary gonna sell the GW? 1 5, 6 1 5 1 6 1 5 1 6 1 5 1 6 shirts,

Andrew Hiller (10:42):

1 5, 6 1 5 6 1. Uh, yeah, he releases it on Monday. Vindicate V ndk.com

Sevan Matossian (10:48):

Vindicate.com. And you’ll hear more about those shirts I’m sure. On the show. So, so is that the, is that the race right there? Are we, how certain are we that, uh, Ricky, Justin and Roman that we’re looking at our podium guys now and now it’s all because they all have an equal shot at, uh, first place. Right? Winning.

Taylor Self (11:04):

Yeah. Uh, ish. I think we are looking at the podium

Sevan Matossian (11:08):

Right there. Okay. Who in that let’s rank those, uh, Hiller. Uh, you go first, let’s rank those for the, uh, I keep want call it the basketball. It’s the wall ball snatch. Ricky ARD, Justin Maderas and Roman Koff 1, 2, 3.

Andrew Hiller (11:25):

So I don’t have you guys spoken about that at all? Or is this,

Sevan Matossian (11:28):

Is this the a little bit, yeah, you can explore, you can explore a little, if you don’t wanna just jump right. Intels.

Andrew Hiller (11:32):

I think that is it the 12 foot wall ball for the males and 11 for the females. So I think that height’s gonna play into a little bit, so I would’ve to take Roman who I would just have to assume could handle the squat snatch. But if I had to think about the squat snatch as being a bigger play than the WBA, I would take Maderas because he is the most mobile. And if you’re to look at it all together, I think Ricky does the worst out of the three of those, because his overhead is the greatest and he’s not the tallest of the three. I think that’s my take.

Sevan Matossian (11:59):

Yeah. So I’m gonna give you, I’m gonna give you Roman Justin, correct? Correct?

Andrew Hiller (12:03):


Taylor Self (12:05):

I’m in agreement

Sevan Matossian (12:06):

And sorry, one more question. Sorry, Taylor. One more question for Hillary, um, is, do do enough people get in between Ricky and Justin and Roman that it causes a problem for Ricky.

Andrew Hiller (12:17):

I would say if a house key probably overtaking him and someone like Travis doing well on this ER, doing well on this. So it’s very possible. I would say yes, because I don’t like to be abstract. I’ll just say yes.

Sevan Matossian (12:28):

So you’re saying this could be the workout that makes the race even tighter. Ricky could lose 20 to 50 points on this.

Andrew Hiller (12:35):

If the speculation that I’ve got is correct. Yeah. I was sitting in the stands yesterday and I’m just like throwing out, like, they’re gonna do bad. They’re gonna do bad. But with the way the events are shaping up and how different they are, because the way Bosley is programming, I almost don’t seem like I know what the fuck I’m talking about. So, but if I had to guess,

Sevan Matossian (12:49):


Andrew Hiller (12:50):

I think Rick will be in second place after this next one.

Sevan Matossian (12:53):

God Hiller. You’re a good dude. Uh, Taylor, thanks. Um, the three let’s start at the top. Again, we have Roman, he, uh, Hiller picked Roman, Justin Ricky, in that order, who do you got?

Taylor Self (13:02):

I, I have similar and I think be for the same reason, uh, the 12 foot wall balls are question mark for Justin. We know he’s not, if he has a weakness, uh, wall balls are not good for him. Um, I know that. So that’ll be exposed in this workout. We’ll see how he does. We’ll see if the 20 reps at 12 feet, uh, is even relevant, cuz we know 20 reps at 10 feet is irrelevant for every single athlete in the field. Uh, it’s hard to say if that extra two feet is gonna become relevant. I think it could for Justin, that being said, I think between Justin and S and pancake, they probably have the best dumbbell squat snatches in the field. Um, and so I think if those six reps are more important than the wall ball, Justin takes the win. If the wall ball becomes more of a factor than the dumbbell, Roman takes the win, cuz he for sure is one of the best in the field that wall balls. Uh, and then Ricky does not do as well as either of them. The question mark being can enough athletes separate between or, or get in between Justin and Roman and Ricky for that to cause an issue for Ricky. I think for sure, Saxon Banick potentially wins the workout. Um, so I don’t know that he’s gonna get in between. I think Saxon could probably win it. Yeah. I don’t know. It’s gonna be tight.

Andrew Hiller (14:13):

I bet he’s on your fantasy team. Isn’t he? That’s why you want him to win it.

Taylor Self (14:16):

He’s not dude. I haven’t picked a person since fucking Wednesday

Andrew Hiller (14:20):

Getting so just sex and pan bold statement. Bold. I think ow. He’s gonna win it.

Sevan Matossian (14:26):

This for those of who don’t know, this workout is 20 wall balls to an extended target

Taylor Self (14:31):

Field sprint.

Sevan Matossian (14:32):

Oh, sorry. Sorry. Thank you. It’s a sprint. We don’t know how far to a wall bar tar wall ball target. I think that’s 14, uh, feet for the men, 11 feet for the women. And then after you do those 20, you do, uh, six alternating snatches with a hundred pound dumbbell and then you get to rest four minutes and you do that three times. And whoever has the, the fastest time, the smallest number, uh, wins at the end who, um, Ricky might be the fastest out of these guys though. Right

Taylor Self (15:01):

On the sprint.

Sevan Matossian (15:02):

Just on everything on

Taylor Self (15:04):

The run, uh, cycle time. You mean? No, I think Justin Maderas on the dumbbell squat. Snatch can probably fucking rip that thing touch and go on broken and make it look smooth. I think GME wins the workout gime versus Saxon. Um, ER,

Andrew Hiller (15:21):

That’s a, that’s a good call.

Sevan Matossian (15:22):

12 foot target. 12 foot target. Thank you Mike. 12 foot target,

Taylor Self (15:24):

I think G or Saxon one and two on the workout. Um, and then Justin,

Sevan Matossian (15:32):

Hey, here off

Taylor Self (15:33):

The comments were blown up at me. Yeah. I said GE relax

Sevan Matossian (15:35):

Everybody. You said I don’t think GE, I think why, because I just think something’s wrong. Why do

Andrew Hiller (15:39):

You think, why do you think GE Taylor and why don’t you think GE Sevan?

Sevan Matossian (15:43):

Yeah. Why do you think, do you think just because he’s good at weight lifting,

Taylor Self (15:47):

Not just because he’s good weight lifting the sprint,

Andrew Hiller (15:49):

Anything to do it. Domain programming,

Taylor Self (15:51):

Sprint time domain and the dumbbell squat snatch is why

Sevan Matossian (15:55):

The fact take

Taylor Self (15:56):

The fact that the time domain is super short and the fact that it’s a dumbbell squat, snatch, the guy moves any external load so beautifully and efficiently. And that’s what the dumbbell squat snatch is all about.

Sevan Matossian (16:08):

I hear you, but currently what place is geese in? I think what we’re seeing is is that these are he, he might be really good, but he’s surrounded by just amazing dudes. Just amazing dudes. The

Taylor Self (16:19):

Field is the deepest it has ever been. You look at the last 10 and I can’t remember ever watching, uh, CrossFit games where I’m looking at the bottom 10 and thinking, oh, I could watch this. Usually it’s like, ah, I don’t wanna fucking watch this. Now you look at the bottom 10 and there are huge names in the bottom 10.

Sevan Matossian (16:35):

Uh, Betty D watching this year’s programming unfold is exciting to witness. You guys are adding value to the games, experience Hiller, crushing the interviews. Great trea. Great, great

Taylor Self (16:47):

Work baby.

Andrew Hiller (16:50):

Youa oh,

Sevan Matossian (16:52):

Work, work, work, eon Vasquez beers for Hiller and Suza. Ma bajo, Mara more work, no beer, less beer, more work

Andrew Hiller (17:03):

Ma uh,

Sevan Matossian (17:05):

Seon. Is it true? You would’ve had the biggest bulge in the swim event. Yes. Except for that Italian, uh, runner that we covered yesterday, the biggest

Taylor Self (17:11):

Bulge on his face.

Sevan Matossian (17:13):

<laugh> uh, Licia and Sev should take over across her commentating next year for the men’s and women. Man, I, I just need to, I just need to geti on the show more? My that’s my goal, uh, BJ.

Andrew Hiller (17:24):

She was in ju see her. She just walked by. I had her. I did. Pete did. Okay. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (17:29):

Uh, BJ Oza uh, do they let Roman rock the Russian flag on the podium if he wins?

Taylor Self (17:37):

Well, we have to, we, again, we don’t know if it’s his choice that he’s not wearing the flag or representing the flag or if it’s CrossFit, I have no idea.

Sevan Matossian (17:45):

God, if it’s his choice, I hope

Caleb Beaver (17:48):

The other guy guy that’s from

Taylor Self (17:51):


Caleb Beaver (17:52):

Seole yeah. Yeah. They won’t show his flag either. And I don’t think he Russian

Taylor Self (17:55):

He’s not Russian.

Sevan Matossian (17:58):

That’s another, they don’t know Bella either. Right? Why?

Caleb Beaver (18:00):

Yeah. Bella, Russ,

Sevan Matossian (18:02):

Cause I think be Russ was supporting, uh, Russian troops as they entered Russia from the, is it, is it the south? They got the sea down there, something like that, but it’s just, it’s just fucking crazy. You gave, uh, Hiller a seizure. Yes. Robert, how can I help you Bob?

Trevor (18:22):

Robert? Uh, my name is Trevor, but maybe it’s just coming across wrong.

Sevan Matossian (18:26):

Okay. Hi Trevor.

Trevor (18:29):

Okay. So I got a couple of things to propose that might add some value to the show or just some question. OK. So with that swim event, don’t look at me like that. See that <laugh> seriousness. So you program an event based on Maxs and an ERG machine and you hook everything up to a gigantic scoreboard with a live race for the in crowd, for the crowd in person, and then you don’t broadcast it. So we’re sitting there watching for four hours and we can’t see anything. It’s like,

Sevan Matossian (19:08):

What do you mean at home? Are you talking? Were you at the venue?

Trevor (19:14):

No, no, no. I’m at home.

Sevan Matossian (19:14):

Well, we saw it on top, on at home. We saw

Taylor Self (19:17):

Numbers. They did they have it hooked up to a jumbotron in the, in the swimming stadium?

Trevor (19:21):

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So in the swim stadium you could see the cows pool per hour and all that stuff.

Sevan Matossian (19:27):

Ah, right, right, right. Why there was some, there was some, there were some numbers for us at home, but yes, I see what you’re saying.

Taylor Self (19:34):

Wow. That’s crazy. They should have broadcasted that. Why wouldn’t they

Trevor (19:38):

Exactly. That’s what I’m thinking is like, I, I liked the event. I thought it was OK, but I’ve gotta sit there and watch it for four hours. And I can’t see really what I’m most interested in, in those final sprints is I wanna see what they’re pulling and we couldn’t see any of that. We had to rely on, you know, uh, chase and Sean to tell us what’s going on. So I just thought like, and I know in the

Sevan Matossian (20:00):

Past, and by the way, don’t lie either. That’s the second, most thing you’re interested in.

Trevor (20:05):

What’s the first

Sevan Matossian (20:06):

Just seeing all the athletes in their bathing suits

Trevor (20:08):

May maybe. But um, no, I just, uh, and in the past they said it’s like a money thing where like, it costs more to broadcast certain things, but I’m like, this is cross to the games. Like, and you have hundreds of thousands of people watching. You gotta give people what they want.

Sevan Matossian (20:21):

Swipe that shit on Rose’s credit card. Swipe that shit on Rose’s credit card.

Trevor (20:26):

I just feel like they really, the ball there, like if you’re gonna make us watch these S for four hours, like make it the most entertained that you possibly could,

Sevan Matossian (20:34):

Dude, chase, I will say this chasing Sean are murdering it.

Trevor (20:37):

I, I think they’re doing pretty, they’re good with an event like that. They did about as, as much as they could do. Cause you can’t, they can’t tell us, you know, what 20 different athletes are pulling at once, but I would’ve loved to have seen that.

Sevan Matossian (20:48):

And the split screen was good.

Trevor (20:51):

Yeah. Yeah. The split screen was helpful. Helpful. Again, like if they had, if they had broadcasted that live like racing scoreboard, it would’ve been phenomenal to watch. Yeah.

Taylor Self (21:00):


Sevan Matossian (21:01):

That would be Olsen dudes, phenomenal coverage gentleman. He’s referring to you. Taylor Bo best moment for me so far was at the end of the capital event with the crowd behind Rebecca fuss. God, you’re getting soft, dude. You’re getting old, my mom and uh, some of my elderly friends like that moment too.

Trevor (21:18):

And then I, so I had one more question or I wanted to see what y’all thought. Um, I know, I feel like we haven’t talked tons about, uh, spit it out programming. So to quote my friend Thomas, he said, uh, so with the teams doing individual, does rich get both trophies? Because like literally, almost basically since maybe the first two workouts of the, no, maybe the first day, I guess the competition it’s been the teams basically getting tested as individuals and then combining their scores. And so I know like there’s an argument that this programming exposes the weak link on the team, but actually I would argue that teamwork would expose a bad teammate. And so basically so far true, they’re exposing the weak individual and not the weak teammate and it’s a team competition. So I to like,

Sevan Matossian (22:10):

OK, I like that question

Trevor (22:12):

This morning

Taylor Self (22:13):

Outta how many events for the teams out of how many events have relied on just one individual at a time for the team? Cause I think really it’s only two the lift and the run and this swim event. Okay.

Trevor (22:28):

Yeah. Well, okay. So I, I get what you’re saying there, but they’re not truly having to work together is what I’m saying. They’re, they’re working as individuals and then ting it up at the end. Whereas like that swim event, they could have done like a 10 minute am where you have two people pulling on the ski and two people swimming have the tag in and out for like max calories or meters or

Taylor Self (22:51):

Like on that event. But I wanna hold

Sevan Matossian (22:53):

On step Steven, Robert, Carl, uh, thank you for calling. Taylor’s gonna take this off the air. You demand. Thank you. And you’re you should buy a lot of ticket cuz you got two questions. Go ahead, Taylor.

Taylor Self (23:02):

So bike or Bob tons of teamwork. That’s one event we have in the teamwork column, strong and fast two scores we have in the individual column, uh, pegs and P bars. Again, a lot of teamwork. They had the Syncro burpees, uh, the worm hold. So two to two muscle up pig, lots of teamwork, Syncro muscle ups, handstand machine, uh, the Syncro or the handstand pushups together, uh, handstand hold together. That’s four in the teamwork column and then rinse and repeat. You can add that to the individual column. So the only really two events strong and fast were together, but there were two individual scores and then rinse and repeat was its own event. So you have two events slash three scores where they’re testing each teammate, maybe separately, the other four workouts, individual events, uh, have a lot of teamwork. And again, it’s the CrossFit games. This is not anything unique or new to this year. There have been lots of events that test a lot of individual teammates across all of the CrossFit games years. Uh, Hillers probably got more to say maybe than

Sevan Matossian (24:04):

I do. Oh, I don’t know. I think we’ve re I reached our allocation of amount

Andrew Hiller (24:07):

That we’re gonna talk. Wait a minute. All I gotta talk about, I’m assuming you guys have talked about the Seth still ball Instagram.

Taylor Self (24:13):

Oh yeah. Did I shout on him?

Andrew Hiller (24:15):

What was the, what was your, what was your five second take on that? Wait,

Sevan Matossian (24:18):

Wait, wait, before you do that, before you do that, before you do that. All right. Alright, Seth, still ball is on one of the, uh, amazing.

Taylor Self (24:24):

I know what legitimate.

Sevan Matossian (24:25):

One of the ma legitimate, one of the amazing mayhem, uh, teams, one of the three amazing teams that, uh, the mayhem empire has sent. And uh, one of the gentlemen was, uh, uh, on one of those teams is frustrated because he doesn’t think the events, uh, represent the methodology in the, in the testing that he’d like to see that represents and, and chooses the fittest team in the world. Now, please he’ll tell us about how you disagree with

Taylor Self (24:51):

That. He asked what my five,

Andrew Hiller (24:52):

First of all. Thanks. Thanks for, thanks for the context on that seven and yeah, I would like Taylor’s context before I tell you what I made a video about this morning on

Sevan Matossian (25:00):


Taylor Self (25:01):

So my five second take was just because it’s not 21, 15, 9 thrusters and pull ups. Doesn’t mean it’s not CrossFit. We classify everything that is functional movement executed at high intensity as CrossFit. So the guy either needs to take his level one, um, or just don’t sign up for the games. If you don’t wanna be tested on shit, you’re not good at

Sevan Matossian (25:21):

And all of,

Andrew Hiller (25:22):

And the always think, go ahead,

Sevan Matossian (25:23):

You got no, you go ahead. Your turn.

Andrew Hiller (25:25):

All I want to know is how in the fuck he thinks he can tell Adrian Bosman what he thinks CrossFit is when he’s been doing it for one year.

Taylor Self (25:34):


Andrew Hiller (25:35):

That’s the only thing

Sevan Matossian (25:36):

For a year.

Andrew Hiller (25:38):

He’s only set up for the open for one year.

Taylor Self (25:40):

Yeah. Yeah. Shut up. Seth.

Sevan Matossian (25:41):

You’re such purists. You’re such, what, what is this rash cream? Is that like my we’re

Taylor Self (25:46):


Sevan Matossian (25:47):

I’m gonna

Taylor Self (25:47):

Have a rash. I’m opinionated. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (25:49):

Never, I’ve never had a rash in my whole life. I’ve had poison Oak.

Taylor Self (25:52):

You’ve never had Bei rash.

Sevan Matossian (25:53):

No, I’ve never had any kind of rash. Do you think that there will be a hero event tomorrow Lala? This shows could completely run muck, a Lala steel. Uh, do you think there will be a hero event tomorrow? We gotta talk about the women in swimming, uh, next. Do, do you think there will be a hero event tomorrow? Uh, Taylor self

Taylor Self (26:10):

Hero event. Wow. I would like there to be one. Um, it’s there are fucking so many hero workouts. It’s hard to think like, oh, you know, like at the, at the top of my head, I don’t have a hero workout that I can think of that fits great in the programming to this point, but I

Sevan Matossian (26:26):

There’s gonna be a Euro workout. It’s called run run and have a, a cardiac, uh, event.

Taylor Self (26:33):

This is Christ hill run run CLO.

Sevan Matossian (26:37):

Yeah. Not funny.

Taylor Self (26:40):

I can’t say that stuff. You’re dragging the worst outta me.

Sevan Matossian (26:44):

Uh, Hiller. Do you think there will be a hero event tomorrow? Not a Euro event.

Andrew Hiller (26:47):

I, I just hope it’s Kasu but that’s that’s me. And I think it was Jr who was saying, there might be a 10 to one and I’m not sure if there’s a 10 to one hero workout out there, but still

Sevan Matossian (26:56):

Waiting. What’s KA Sue a hundred thrusters or some crazy shit. What’s

Andrew Hiller (26:59):

Kasu correct. And you do the burpees on the minute. I believe it’s five of them.

Taylor Self (27:03):


Andrew Hiller (27:04):

But they already did an on the minute beep test sort of workout. So probably not

Taylor Self (27:08):

Lila still fits in the programming. Uh, one to 10 body weight, cleaning jerks and muscle ups.

Andrew Hiller (27:15):

There it is. That could be it.

Taylor Self (27:17):

I, I know they’ve already dipped on the bar and the ring dip outta the muscle up may be considered redundant, but you gotta have muscle ups of the CrossFit games. You

Andrew Hiller (27:25):

Can’t it’s about as redundant as they’re regional, where they did both ring dips and muscle ups.

Taylor Self (27:29):

That’s true. Exactly. And that was only six events, not 13. Good call.

Sevan Matossian (27:35):

Um, can we see the, uh, women’s leaderboard and, um, have any of them been updated and let’s go over and talk about the women’s swim event. Why, uh, sh should the I get, was this a good event, um, for everyone to do,

Taylor Self (27:51):


Sevan Matossian (27:51):

The way it was programmed,

Andrew Hiller (27:53):

It might have been the only one that everyone could do, but I was kind of watching it thinking, uh, I wish they would’ve done something else, but with the way he talked about it on your show last night, I think it was about what he could do could have been done.

Sevan Matossian (28:05):

Like you would’ve liked something without swimming, so we could all go out and try it today. Maybe

Taylor Self (28:09):

I think everyone could.

Andrew Hiller (28:11):

That is a good take. Nice job. Seven. I agree. Yeah. Cause everyone in the world could’ve done it. Not just everyone of the games. I can do this anywhere. What the hell am I gonna do this?

Sevan Matossian (28:20):

Yeah, no one can do this. Except people at the games, which is interesting. Maybe that gives him something to do next year. Not only is everyone at the games can do, but you can go out and do it right now.

Taylor Self (28:27):

That’s what I took. You know, he said that maybe you could do that. And I just wish that the event that everyone could do, literally everyone could do. Cuz not everyone’s more than the

Sevan Matossian (28:36):

Swim. No one can do this. No one can do this.

Taylor Self (28:38):

Well, well, not even just that the skier, the skier is. Yeah. That’s I mean more unique piece of equipment than, than

Sevan Matossian (28:42):

Swim. And how are you gonna get it to the, to a swim center?

Taylor Self (28:46):

Yeah, I think it should

Andrew Hiller (28:46):

With your hands.

Sevan Matossian (28:48):

Right? Thank you. Thank you, Hillary. You’re you could just,

Taylor Self (28:50):

Just jerk two guys off, right, right. Before you swim at 50

Sevan Matossian (28:53):


Andrew Hiller (28:56):

They would last,

Sevan Matossian (28:57):

You can tell Susan’s not paying attention. Uh, okay. Let’s um, Susan would’ve jumped in line. Been like me. Me I’ll volunteer to help.

Mattew Souza (29:05):

I didn’t know. I didn’t know. You guys saw me on here yet. They

Taylor Self (29:08):


Sevan Matossian (29:08):

Oh shit.

Mattew Souza (29:10):

I didn’t. I was just gonna make sure if you guys wanted, uh, to check it, I was down with the athletes as everybody was leaving and I kind of got some, uh, sediments on how the event went with them and uh, a couple of the coaches and everything else, but I’m sure you guys probably touched on, uh, on, uh, a bunch of that already. Huh?

Sevan Matossian (29:24):

You, but we’ll get back to hold one second. Uh, there was a, uh, there there’s these three guys there’s these three guys. Uh, nice

Taylor Self (29:31):


Sevan Matossian (29:32):

Oh, that is a nice shirt.

Taylor Self (29:35):

Heyer. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (29:36):

Some, some people were asking what I was wearing, so I just Susan, sorry. I might interrupted you.

Taylor Self (29:41):

They no, no, go

Sevan Matossian (29:42):

Ahead. Go. I was gonna tell a joke, but, but I bet I, I, I can’t even remember if I remember it right.

Taylor Self (29:47):

The one thing, well, why you’re remembering the one thing I also didn’t like was when Nikki Brazier was talking about the at home version, everyone could do on.com with running in burpees. And I’m like, that’s not the.

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