#521 – Indy Event 1 “Bike to Work” Recap

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

And then, and then now bam, we’re live time to recover and

Mattew Souza (00:04):

We’re back. Yeah. That’s the inside scoop. Good deal. Thanks. How do they do that?

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Hold on. Okay. Uh, I’m gonna mute Heidi for a second. Uh, and then Heidi will be with you one second. Uh, uh, SU what do you know, what the fuck happened? Just so you guys know event one just happened. It was, uh, looked like there was some chaos. Um, we saw a little bit of it in the women’s event when Daniel, Brandon, uh, finished, uh, a lap early. And then in the men’s event, we saw all sorts of stuff like that happening. Did you get the scoop on that?

Mattew Souza (00:34):

Yeah, so right now, what I, what I heard is the first three guys I crossed the finish line, uh, skipped a lap. So that would be, uh, Laar. That would be Spencer and Ricky making the first person or first place from that event. Um, Yanaki I think.

Sevan Matossian (00:50):

And does that mean they all Laar Ricky and, uh, Spencer will all finish worse than Colton MES penalty assessed.

Mattew Souza (00:59):

I’m not sure if that five-minute penalty is gonna be what they, what they decide to hold with, but even if they do that still only puts ’em at like 38 minutes and change. So I don’t know how they’re gonna assess it, but yeah, even if they give us a five-minute penalty, they’re still gonna end up with a pretty good score.

Sevan Matossian (01:14):

Okay. Uh, uh, gimme, gimme one second here. Um, we’re gonna go over to, uh, Heidi. What’s up. Thanks for checking in.

Heidi Cam (01:24):

Hi, how’s it going? It’s going good

Sevan Matossian (01:26):

For me. Good. Were you down there? Are you at the venue and did you get to watch the women’s and men’s heat today?

Heidi Cam (01:34):

Yes, I’m here. It’s super humid. It’s super hot. It’s like sprinkling off and on, but it’s, it’s not raining anymore.

Sevan Matossian (01:42):

And, uh, what was the crowd’s response? Um, were you able to hear the crowd’s response to, uh, the chaos? Are they laughing? Do they think it’s cool? Are they angry? Is, is there excitement? Oh, is it, does it add, um, is this quality drama or people pissed?

Heidi Cam (01:58):

Oh, I feel like it’s good quality drama for

Sevan Matossian (02:00):

Me. Me too. Me too.

Heidi Cam (02:01):

Yo. Yeah. It’s great content. Um, but yeah, the crowd was, you know, obviously excited when the first male crossed and then everyone’s, you know, the cheers are kind of confused. Like, okay, that’s great, but this is not right. Um, so I, it seems like everybody knew right away that something was not right.

Sevan Matossian (02:19):

And it, it from home, I had sympathy for, uh, when I saw Laar and Spencer, um, enter the stadium and it looked like to us that Laar tried to turn around and go back onto the playing field that he realized he had made a mistake, but that maybe someone wouldn’t let him reenter the race once he finished. Do you know anything about that?

Heidi Cam (02:43):

I don’t, but that seems accurate.

Sevan Matossian (02:45):

Okay. Did you witness that also? Did, did you see cuz Spencer entered the stadium and just finished strong? Like he thought he’d done five laps. Right. But it was clear that, uh LAER ju was like, oh shit.

Heidi Cam (02:56):

Yeah, it wasn’t, I wasn’t able to see that part, but everyone was talking about it, but yeah, I wasn’t really able to see it very well.

Sevan Matossian (03:03):

Okay. Fantastic. Okay. Thank you, Heidi. Uh, thank you. We look forward to seeing you all week. Uh, we got Andrew Hiller here from his car. We got J Howell from the house. We got, uh, C beaver from an undisclosed location. Let me ask Andrew Hiller a question here. Um, oh, thank you, Caleb. Caleb. I’ll let you do the unmuting. Sorry. I’m gonna stop messing with that. Um, Hiller. I am hearing that as the athletes were, um, doing their laps, they would, they would come to a point that’s called, I think called the why. I’m not sure where that is. And they would yell at the judges. What lap number are we on? And the judges would respond. It’s your fucking responsibility. And any thoughts on that before I give you more information

HillerFit (03:47):

That it was on the athletes and not on the judges? Yeah. So the athletes, so at which rate it would’ve been entirely on Spencer and Lesar and Ricky to keep count of their five numbers that they gotta keep count of. It’s literally, they have to count to five. How many times have I crossed to this 0.5 times, if that’s the case, they’re idiots

Sevan Matossian (04:05):

Really? You here’s the thing. I, I haven’t done this workout, but have you ever gone to the track and you’re running and, and, and, and you, and you lose count. I’ve that’s happened to me a shitload of times in college. I go to the track and then next thing I know I’m thinking about the girl I want to date not. I’m like, am I on fucking lap seven? Or my left? 12? What the

HillerFit (04:25):

Fuck? You’re excited. But all you hear is about Matt Fraser, knowing where he is at, in space in relation to the field. And did they know whether or not they had passed the leaders? And if they hadn’t then how are they gonna be the ones to be finishing right there? Correct? Or no incorrect. You said to be spatially aware, count to five, count to five.

Sevan Matossian (04:42):

Uh, D Dave V, D um, says no with five exclamation points. It shouldn’t not be on the athletes play devil’s advocate for me here. And tell me, why do you have any thoughts on why it shouldn’t be, if you had to play the other side,

HillerFit (04:58):

Are you talking to me still?

Sevan Matossian (04:59):

Yeah. Yeah. I’m talking to you.

HillerFit (05:01):

Well, if you’re playing devil’s advocate, you say, if they’re not squatting below parallel, then it is on the judges when it’s in competition to be holding them all accountable. Of course. Right? Correct. If, if you wanna compare the two and why don’t they have something it’s very difficult and all I can think about, and actually Alexis is the one who said it. You never see anybody in the NFL running the wrong way on a football field. They, they all like know which way to go. And there was a hundred, 4,000 people when I was watching it, watching it live. And some of ’em like, they’d be their first experience. And all they’re seeing is the announcers say, oh, looks like they fucked up. They’re going the wrong way. There’s something totally wrong here. And that’s not a first impression you’re ever going to get watching a professional sport.

Sevan Matossian (05:42):

Oy, oy, oy, oy and Andrew Hiller. Dibon uh, okay. I, I personally am enjoying the drama.

HillerFit (05:51):

I can’t disagree. I’m enjoying it as well. <laugh> I was sitting here and I’m like, oh my God, I can’t fucking believe that they, they would, they, oh my God. They, all they have to do is count to five. That’s all I’m gonna keep saying count to

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

Five. Well, well, Hey,

HillerFit (06:03):

The judges or the athletes.

Sevan Matossian (06:04):

So here’s the thing. If it’s, if this is the athlete’s fault, I don’t think it leaves a, a bad impression on the sport. If it’s a, if it’s a problem with the course, or if there should have been something on there. I mean, let me ask Jr. Here a question, uh, J how do we know if there’s anything on the field that was notifying them like that they, each per each person had someone or a manager who could have been there been like four, five, like, did they, was there any, did they know from the beginning, this was on them.

CrossFit Crash (06:38):

We can assume that there’s someone out there representing each athlete to mm-hmm <affirmative> at some point, tell them, Hey, this is number four. This is, this is where you’re gonna push. Hey, Hey, the next pack is 10 seconds behind you. Something like that. However, the question I would ask is if every athlete has a judge for their gymnastics, why isn’t that judge standing outside after the chest to bar counting laps.

Sevan Matossian (07:06):

Okay. So it didn’t look like ju go ahead. CA go ahead.

Caleb Beaver (07:10):

It didn’t look like they had any, they allowed anybody else on the course either. So, I mean, it was, it’s probably pretty feasible to put the judges out there and count the lapses are coming through. Cuz there were no fans, there were no coaches, anything.

Sevan Matossian (07:23):

So I, I just wanna be clear for those of you who are listening to what Jr and Caleb are talking about when the, when the race started, um, these athletes ran over to their bar and they did, uh, 75 toes to bar. And each of them had an individual judge that counted their reps and made sure they went through the full range of motion. It does sound like something CrossFit would do that. Every athlete would also have a judge placed somewhere on the course, probably around the same area who might be counting their reps, um, as they do laps too. And maybe when they came across their last lap, their ref maybe would’ve put their hand up or something to let the athlete and the fans know, uh, uh, Andre whoe is on his last lap. Is that what you’re saying Jr?

CrossFit Crash (08:08):

No, I’m saying it would actually be that same judge.

Sevan Matossian (08:11):

Oh, the same judge Wal well, okay. Whether it be the same judge or not a judge.

CrossFit Crash (08:15):


Sevan Matossian (08:16):

Okay. Cause usually they have plenty of judges and they’ll the judges don’t like, uh, when an athlete moves from section to section that that it’s not uncommon that there would even be different judges. So the judges didn’t have to chase the athletes, correct?

CrossFit Crash (08:30):

Yeah. Aesthetically, it looks a lot better if the judge is just standing there with their hands behind their back. And then when they leave the field, the judge stays at the pull up bar and just waits and their responsibility is done. But if we’re talking about whether or not athletes are gonna get confused, you know, to your track analogy, I can’t think of any time I’m going to run track where I don’t know. I have one more <laugh> because I’m ready for it to be over.

Sevan Matossian (08:56):

Um, have, have you ever run 10 miles on a track?

CrossFit Crash (09:00):


Sevan Matossian (09:00):

Yeah. I mean, I I’ve done that a few times. It’s it’s it’s bat shit crazy. You have to, you have to come up with some sort of plan to help you count what I would is I would just move back. I would move in the lanes. Go, go ahead. So last year, yeah, go ahead.

CrossFit Crash (09:12):

We had the four and a half mile run as workout one for the masters. And like there were tons of age divisions running at the same time. We didn’t have someone out there yelling for us. We, we just had to run four and a half. And then when we were done with our, I think it was six loops when we were done with our six loop, we just ran in.

Sevan Matossian (09:31):

Okay. So it was on the honor system,

CrossFit Crash (09:33):


Sevan Matossian (09:35):

Um, Hailey Adams lap, Daniel, Brandon, but she finished top 10. I think judge should tell them what lap they are on. Yeah, we don’t, here’s the thing actually. We’re trying to figure out if they even had a judge, we don’t, we can’t confirm or deny that. Is that correct? Where

HillerFit (09:51):

Did you hear that? You said you heard that they were counting their own laps?

Sevan Matossian (09:55):

I, I can’t tell. Uh, I, I heard there was someone on the ground at the event who was standing near the course who said there was a section called the Y and as the athletes rode by it, they would yell at judges. Oh, and I don’t think, sorry, let me be clear. I, I, and I don’t know this for sure. I’m guessing that they were, they weren’t the specific athletes, judges, they were just course judges. So to make sure people, I think were probably staying on the course and they would say to these judges, what lap are we on? And the judges yelled back. That’s your responsibility. So thank you for the clarifi

HillerFit (10:31):

On that. I know there have been events where they’ve gotta like go out and grab something and bring it back. And I just don’t know. I wonder how they were briefed. And I know I saw a comment in there. Is there any way that we can figure out, grab an athlete and ask what the briefing stated?

Sevan Matossian (10:44):

Okay. And by the way, that is, that is a clever, um, uh, solution to the problem that Hillary, um, sort of implied that every lap someone were to grab something or, uh, make a mark on their arm or something like that. I mean, you could, you could do something like that.

HillerFit (10:58):

Would Dave Castro have done that?

Sevan Matossian (11:01):

<laugh> there would’ve been something. Okay. Um, let me see, uh, can, let me see if I can send, uh, I wonder who I can send a, a link to let let’s just see if we can, I will send one to, um,

Caleb Beaver (11:24):

It looks like Lu UCA is in here.

Sevan Matossian (11:27):

Uh, he, oh, Luca, uh, in the, uh, chat

Caleb Beaver (11:29):

In the chat. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (11:31):

I sent a link to, uh, LAER let me see if I can send a link to, uh, to, uh, Ricky. Oh, you know who I can send a link to also let me send a link here to, uh, Justin Kotler. Maybe he is on the ground there and he can hook us up some thoughts. Uh, and we’ll see if, uh, if anyone can pop in, um, some of the notables going back to the, uh women’s um, Hailey Adams came out strong and, and held at the entire time. Impressive. Right?

CrossFit Crash (12:13):

Yeah. She looked like she knew what she was doing as far as the toast to bar and the first five laps. And then when she got to the chest of bar is when she made her move. And then when she got on the bike, it looked like she knew that she was gonna hold the lead

Sevan Matossian (12:25):

And she looked impressive. She looked like an athlete on that bike. Go ahead, Caleb.

Caleb Beaver (12:29):

Yeah. And the second five miles, she just blew right past everybody and took the lead for the entirety of the five mile.

Sevan Matossian (12:37):


Sevan Matossian (12:41):

There was, there were definitely different skill levels on the bike. The most obvious thing I noticed was someone like Janowski basically his foot stays parallel to the ground the entire time. And if at any time it changes to parallel, the toe would point down. Thank God. I, I also ride a bike like that. I did notice unbelievably that LAER Jukes foot would sometimes point like this. And every time his foot went around the pedal, you would see his ankles have change in range of motion, which is mindboggling. To me, that means he’s pushing the pedal with his ankle. That’s like, I mean, I’m no biking expert. When, when I’m on a bike, that’s like the least efficient thing to do. And, and he was in the wrong gear. It looked like he never switched gears once during the entire ride, it didn’t look like he ever stood up. And yet he stayed in the, in the, um, in the, in the top group, which was crazy. Impressive. And any thoughts on that? Jay? Are you ride a bike?

CrossFit Crash (13:38):

Yeah, I’ve got some guys at my gym that former triathletes and the way they tried to describe it to me, even on a biker was just act like you have mud on the bottom of your shoe. And you’re trying to scrape that mud off on the ground. Every stroke,

Sevan Matossian (13:52):

Look at this. Sorry. I was just watching five dudes holding CEO shirts up. That’s awesome. Yeah. You’re trying to scrape what on, you’re trying to scrape. What on your, uh, on mud, on the toe of your foot?

CrossFit Crash (14:03):

No, it’s kind of like if on the, on the ball of your foot, if you’ve got mud on your shoe. Yeah. If you, if you’re gonna scrape it on the ground to try to get it off, that’s kind of what you wanna do. You want to have your foot flat like that at the bottom? Keep the pedal parallel

Sevan Matossian (14:15):

To the floor, right? You’re not pushing down. You’re making circles,

CrossFit Crash (14:18):


Sevan Matossian (14:19):

You’re making circles. You’re not pushing down. Yeah. It’s kind of incredible. A, another, uh, an absolute, uh, um, painful performance to watch was Kelin Henry. Um, he was so tense and he had his arms bent the whole time. Aesthetically, it looked great. The guy has the nicest arms in the biz, but man, that looked tense. Did you guys see him as he was getting lap there?

CrossFit Crash (14:41):

Yes. Saw him,

Sevan Matossian (14:43):

Uh, fantastic event. I loved it, that all the women went at once and I loved it, that all the men went together, uh, uh, event, uh, Hiller. Do you have any thoughts on that? Did you like the, the layout of it? The look of it, the sprint at the end,

HillerFit (14:58):

I thought that the event was awesome. I was thinking that maybe I liked the amount of, to bar and the amount of chess to bar and I, my initial thought was that it wasn’t enough in comparison to the amount of biking that they did. And then when Laura lost her position after the first one, because of the chest bar, I took it back immediately in my head. I thought that because you saw her that she was coming into the chest bars first, and then where did she finish? Do we know somewhere in the top 10, correct?

Sevan Matossian (15:22):

Yeah. Uh, uh, uh,

CrossFit Crash (15:26):

Yeah, fifth or sixth, I believe

Sevan Matossian (15:28):

You’re talking about, uh, hor,

HillerFit (15:30):

Correct? Yeah, because you, you kept be hearing them say like she had a 10 or 15 second lead amongst the next person in relation to the bike, and then you think, okay, she’s just holding that lead. But the chest bar actually ended up making a pretty big difference. And then the toed bar were actually pretty cool too. And the fact that like you wanted to push those enough so that you had a pretty good position on the bike in the first place, made the entire event awesome. It played out even cooler than I thought it would be.

Sevan Matossian (15:53):

Uh, and, and, and you couldn’t be more correct. Hiller, look at the difference between Laura and Alexa rap it’s I can’t ever remember seeing a closer race. It is, uh, it’s less than a second. It’s less than a second that they, they came in. Yeah. That was a great foot race at the end. I loved seeing that, uh, it, the, the, if I were, the disappointment was, and this is this, you know, there’s a lot of continuity here with, um, uh, a lot of the, um, events we see that CrossFit does ma O’Brien’s a superstar coming into the event and we didn’t get to see her, uh, much. We only knew basically, I think the first time I heard her name mentioned is, was as she’s coming across the finish line, uh, which was a little bit of a disappointment, but I understand it. Um, there’s, uh, limited resources, only so many cameras and, uh, you know, what they worked with. Um, I felt like they did an amazing job. Uh, if you’re Danielle, Brandon, and you only did four laps as an athlete, I’m guessing you’re tempted to be like, fuck my management. They fucked me. Someone should have known

HillerFit (17:01):

That would be the worst feeling in the world to be

Sevan Matossian (17:03):

In a case like career. Yeah, yeah. Or, or, or, sorry, Hillary, fuck the judges. They, they, they, uh, they, they, they should have told me, um, what is she? But the truth is, is to get to the next event. Doesn’t she have to just like, take it on the chin. Like, how do you get past this? Go ahead Jr. Any thoughts if you’re Daniel Brandon’s coach, what you tell her, or if you’re Daniel more importantly, if you’re Daniel, Brandon, how she gets past this.

CrossFit Crash (17:30):

I, I, I, I don’t know if there’s any right thing to say right now. I just know that the look on like Eliza’s face when he came across and looked around like, oh no, this isn’t right. And like, knew that he needed to go back out there because he knew that Koski was ahead, was like, that’s gotta be the worst feeling.

Sevan Matossian (17:46):

He looked like he was gonna cry. Let’s face it. He had, he had that little boy kind of contorted look. Yeah. Uh, Andrew, um, any, any thoughts on, on, on what can be said here to, um, the athlete? Uh, is it the manager’s place now to console the judges or does, what, what, what, what do you do if you’re Daniel, Brandon, because she’s gotta get onto the next event, right? There’s 12 more events.

HillerFit (18:08):

It’s the first event of the cross fade games. And I’m, I missed the finish of the female event, but I did watch the finish of the male event. I could only imagine being Spencer or Lesar at the end there having thought that you maybe possibly won and then realizing it. And then you have, you had to sit there and wait for the person who had actually won to come on in. And, you know, and we don’t know why, but I’m under the assumption that it’s the judges or some sort of system fault there. And not at the fault of the Anthony, because it looked like Lesar was being sent back and he was trying to continue on. And my biggest question forward is going to be like, is that five minutes going? I think I heard that somewhere that they’re going to be like, dinging them five minutes. Have you heard that? Or no?

Sevan Matossian (18:49):

Yeah. Yeah. That and, and the comments, that’s what they’re saying. Uh, we don’t have anything official. Can you bring up the scoreboard and see if any penalties have been assessed Caleb, uh, Sam Harring, 20 bucks. Thanks dude. Great coverage to cover this. As soon as it happens, you’re the man. Uh, I wanna touch on one more thing here. Uh, Nicholas Sellers, you’re wrong about the judging. Then the athlete would have to know what judge they need to see.

Caleb Beaver (19:12):


Sevan Matossian (19:14):

Go ahead. Kayla.

Caleb Beaver (19:15):

The judges do a better job of keeping track of their rights than the athletes of their judges. Like the

Sevan Matossian (19:21):

Right. But I, what Nicholas is saying, he brings up a valid point. Let’s say four bikers come across at the same time. And Tyler Hiller Jr. And you might, or the judges and one, two of you guys yell three laps to go. And two of you yell four laps to go. The, the, the cyclist at that point, the athlete’s gonna have to try to figure out what the fuck’s going on. Right? Okay, go ahead, Hillary. You wanna respond to

HillerFit (19:40):

That? There there’s no excuse for the age of like the technology that we have. And then simple as it’s been in the password, like if you’re running five miles, you run two miles, two and a half miles out, you grab a piece of rope or something and you bring a back and it’s like, Hey, I got the rope. There has to be something that they could have done to have made this easier. And it’s ridiculous that there’s an accounting error here.

Caleb Beaver (19:59):

Why not just make it a five mile loop, right? Like why do they have to make it a five, five lap thing? I didn’t understand that.

Sevan Matossian (20:09):

That’s that’s uh, that’s, it’s another, we’re coming up with all sorts of solutions here. Uh, Tyler, I see you gimme one more. Second. I’m tending to the people who are paying the bills, uh, Y Clark, uh, going broke today with his generosity. It couldn’t have been made simpler a five year old could have counted the labs.

HillerFit (20:26):

That’s what I’m saying. That’s

Sevan Matossian (20:27):

What I, I disagree. It’s to disagree to five.

HillerFit (20:31):

Okay. Come on. Why do you disagree? Okay. You can’t count to five seven.

Sevan Matossian (20:34):

It couldn’t have been simpler. Craig Richie could have counted the lapse. Oh, that’s not nice. Yawn. I can’t believe you said that. That’s not cool. Clive Loughlin. Uh, not look at the no rep shirt. Hey girl. Hi. What’s your name?

Mattew Souza (20:50):

That’s D after 40. There <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (20:53):


Mattew Souza (20:54):

Babe. After, after

Sevan Matossian (20:56):

40, why does she have a Nore shirt on instead of a CEO shirt then? What the fuck? Oh, she’s saving it for Sunday. She’s she’s saving it for Sunday.

Mattew Souza (21:03):

Why do you have a no rep and not a, uh, a CEO shirt on that’s for Sunday. I’m proud to win the assault bike. I’ll show you my, there you go. Awesome. Perfect.

Sevan Matossian (21:11):

Tell her she’s one of the few people that looks prettier in person than in, in her, uh, picture. Good job stuff to do. <laugh> um, weren’t all those ramps. The sensors for the chips. I, you know, I think I was thinking about the sensors, um, playing a role too, but they don’t actually count lapses. They just tell you time. Right. And they don’t actually, those chips don’t actually track your, uh, they’re not geo tracking, are they? No, I think it’s just a timing chip. Okay. Should be, uh, and finally, uh, Tyler, we’re almost to athletes who can’t count should do a lap of shame. <laugh> uh, I did like it that the men had their shirts off. I thought that was fucking cool. I wanna give, uh, Madera’s points for that. Uh, leaderboard is up Ali car Rido, uh, Omar.

Sevan Matossian (22:02):

Veia UNO. Dolos racist. Thank you. I appreciate it. Um, Brandon Reed, 20 bucks Californian. That’s awesome. Amazing content Seon don’t ever change. I appreciate you. In your opinion, a beaker was my favorite Muppet, by the way, I, I, I know he does LSD and shit. Uh, Jeremy Williams, y’all see the men’s leaderboard on CF games.com. Uh, we will go there right while we talk to Tyler Watkins in two seconds. Imagine the fans chanting no rep <laugh> oh my goodness. Uh, comments are fast and furious. Danny. $5. It all depends on the athlete briefing. In my opinion, nothing else matters. Even if the judges made a mistake and opened the entrance early, that is true. We do need to know the athlete briefing before we, uh, start being assholes. Uh, Tyler Watkins. Welcome to the show for the second time today. Uh, uh, any thoughts on what we’ve been talking about so far?

Texxess (22:59):

Yeah, I mean, like, I, I saw an interaction. I was hopeful Forza and Spencer, but skeptical at the same time, I saw the interaction between them and Bosman. I was like, it was positive. Like neither of them looked upset. So I was like, you know, it was very like on the floor. No one knew what was going on. You know, there was a texting thread between all of us and it was like, no one knew from the phone, no one knew on the floor, but like, you know, everybody’s saying in the comments and I think Hiller was alluding to this. Like it as someone who constantly screws up workouts, it’s your it’s on your ass. Like, you need to know I’m in the fourth, I’m in the fourth bike or I’m not. And so like, I, you know, tough luck guys, you should have done it. Right.

Sevan Matossian (23:40):

What do you mean? You’re saying as you, you personally, you’re saying you mess up workouts, you’ll be doing costly. Yeah. Hey, and, and this is off subject a little bit, but when I mess up, if I’m not sure if I’m on rep an eight or nine, I always go back to eight. I default. Yeah. I

Texxess (23:54):

Discount myself every time.

Sevan Matossian (23:55):

Yeah. Yeah. You never fucking give yourself the it’s like, fuck you. Sometimes you gotta go back and start the whole set over. Right. As a penalty, like you ask nothing

Texxess (24:01):

Feels worse than finishing when you weren’t supposed to. Yeah. Cause then you’re the asshole. Yeah.

HillerFit (24:05):

Yesterday you bid a bit on Hal’s article. How there are no longer athletes that were affiliated with an CrossFit affiliate and what effect that could have. It’d be interesting if these athletes are affiliated with a CrossFit affiliate, because that’s something that you learn in your like first day of class, like how to count through your workouts.

Sevan Matossian (24:23):

Good point, good point. You should have gone to an affiliate and you would’ve counted your shit. Right? Uh, very interesting point by Omar here. Uh, one of the best characters on, uh, may no, probably one of the, be best characters in the entire history of television. Uh, rest in peace, Omar from, uh, what was the name of the show out of Baltimore? He was a gangster. He was the homosexual gangster, carried the shotgun in his, uh, you know what I’m talking about? Omar. Indeed, indeed. God. What’s the name of that? Show someone. Tell me the wire. Wasn’t Omar, the best character in the history of television. You haven’t seen the wire Hiller.

HillerFit (25:00):

I haven’t seen the wire.

Sevan Matossian (25:02):

It was born. Nineties. Have to see it.

HillerFit (25:03):

When, when was the show? A thing?

Sevan Matossian (25:05):

Uh, 1974. Um, in a way I know, I know I’m just Hiller. Just wants to make fun of me from old cuz I’m old. So I wanted to give him a, a, a AlleyOOP there. He could dunk it. Um, J uh, just have judges ride on back with the athletes. It’s another, I appreciate being solution oriented, but I wanna read what Omar said. Omar said that, um, oh, you made, uh, Jr. Smile. Uh, we’ll give you your money back for that. You win. Um, Omar said that, uh, no one who skipped a lap should be placed higher than every single person. You did five laps. I hate to say it, but I agree. Tyler Watkins, the scoring guy.

Texxess (25:43):

I have a question for Jr.

HillerFit (25:44):

It depends on the briefing. It depends on the judges. Sorry.

Sevan Matossian (25:46):

You can ask your question. Oh, good point. Good point. Hiller. Okay, go ahead. Tyler. He stole your answer. He stole the show from you. Tyler,

Texxess (25:53):

What would your contingent plan be in this situation? Like you never think your own, team’s gonna screw it up. I’m imagining that somebody probably on the, the game side might have messed something up, which alluded to the athlete. Again, I’m saying the athlete is ultimately responsible, but like, what do you do in this case?

Sevan Matossian (26:11):

If you’re Scott paycheck, you get out there and just start beating Spencer <laugh> for fucking up the family name.

Texxess (26:18):

Yeah. So as someone who runs events Jr, like what do you, what do you do in this?

Sevan Matossian (26:30):

Give them their money back and send ’em home.

CrossFit Crash (26:32):

No. So we did an event. No. So we did an event like this last year, it was called the belt and run. It was like the burden run with pig, flips and sleds and all that kind of stuff. And when the athletes went on their laps, they were in four, 200 meter laps around the gym with a sandbag on their shoulder. The judge just followed ’em out the door and stood next to the building and counted for them as they came in. And then when they came in to go to the pig flip, the judge followed ’em inside. So yeah. Uh, I think going ahead and thinking up a penalty for something like, if you don’t do a lap, it’s gonna be five minutes added to your time. If you ever get off your bike, when you’re not supposed to get off your bike, unless you crash, it’s a five minute penalty and you just set those standards from the get go, and you just hold to those.

Texxess (27:16):

I wonder also when I, so I took my police, I took the police exam, the, the physical exam once. And we, we had to run a mile and a half and they separated. I think there were like 20 or 30 of us there. And it was like each cop that was there that was counting, like had four people. And they just watched those people and they counted. And so it’s like was no one out there doing that. And it’s like, if you’re only responsible for four people, it’s that, that’s not that hard, but again, okay. They screw it up now, what do you do?

Sevan Matossian (27:46):

How about this, Tyler? What about the person who didn’t do five laps that they’re not gonna catch?

Texxess (27:55):

Oh yeah. Good for you. You got away with it.

Sevan Matossian (27:58):

<laugh> well, well, cuz you, because if, if, if what’s happening on this end is happening, then you have to assume it’s happening in, in reverse. Also, if you reverse engineered it’s happening, the other

Texxess (28:07):

Right. For the, you have to, you know about, there’s also ones that you don’t know. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (28:11):

Yeah. There’s someone who there’s someone who took 17th, who should have taken 27th.

Texxess (28:15):


Sevan Matossian (28:16):

And they don’t even know it either. They don’t know it. I don’t trust me. I don’t think Ricky garage. I don’t think Ricky Gerard came in thinking he, I think when he knew, I don’t think he came in thinking that he was pulling it off. I mean, how stupid would, would they be if they thought they were gonna enter the stadium with all those people there and cameras on them? Like no one knowingly cheated.

Texxess (28:36):

Maybe you all have already

Sevan Matossian (28:37):

Suggested out,

Texxess (28:39):

But like, has anybody figured out if, uh, if Yona did six laps, cuz I’m hearing reports, he did six laps.

Sevan Matossian (28:45):

I did hear reports of that too, which is

Caleb Beaver (28:48):

Laughing at 15 minutes.

Sevan Matossian (28:51):

What’s say that again, Kayla,

Caleb Beaver (28:52):

They were lapping at like 15 to 15, 16 minutes per lap. I don’t think that would’ve been possible.

Texxess (28:58):

Me either, but that, I mean, there, there was several people on the floor saying that they thought he did an extra lap, but I mean like everybody there there’s claims going everywhere. No one has any clue what’s going

Sevan Matossian (29:08):

On online. Hey dude, don’t he fucking lap Travis mayor?

CrossFit Crash (29:12):

I don’t think there’s, I don’t think there’s any way that the fastest times were five minutes ahead of the female times. And that’s where it is right now.

Texxess (29:19):

No, I mean, and you guys were part of that thread, like from a Z score standpoint, I was like, this is crazy. These athletes are so much better than them at this one event. And I was like, this would be nuts. But then I was like, wait a minute, did they screw

Sevan Matossian (29:32):

This off? Hey, he said Z score. And I watched our numbers just drop a thousand viewers, which just went

Caleb Beaver (29:36):

Like, shit,

Sevan Matossian (29:40):

Sorry. I gotta throw it in there. Uh, Katherine Shafer, uh, 10, uh, do 10, 10, 10 of your money. Thank you. That’s uh, uh, I bet you that’s a lot. Um, I am hop. What would you guys do, uh, to ju and pan? Uh, how would you place them? Um, uh, let me just ask you this, Jay, I’ll put you on the spot. Just a really hard.

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