#514 – HillerFit Review Show & Rich Froning / Angelo DiCicco

Andrew Hiller (00:00):


Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Yes. Did you, did you row?

Andrew Hiller (00:04):

No, I did a bike, ER, workout five rounds, 50 Cal bike. Double unders,

Sevan Matossian (00:11):

Say it. Yeah. That’s this?

Andrew Hiller (00:14):

Uh, yeah, that’s the ski machine. The, the bike RG is the assault bike without the handles. And it feels really different. Cause it’s not change driven. It’s fan driven like the rower.

Sevan Matossian (00:25):

Wait, what’s he talking about the,

Andrew Hiller (00:26):

The, the, the biker, the concept two bike machine. Oh, it looks like a rower. You bike on it.

Sevan Matossian (00:33):

You call that an ER.

Andrew Hiller (00:35):

It, it is. It’s a bike, ER,

Sevan Matossian (00:37):

Biker. Okay. Can you look up,

Andrew Hiller (00:39):

ER, what do you call that thing? I, what

Sevan Matossian (00:41):

The fuck? That

Andrew Hiller (00:42):

The C2 bike. I bike C2. Bike. Yeah. It’s an bike.

Sevan Matossian (00:44):

Never heard it. I’ve never heard it called. Oh shit. The, the thumbnail’s awesome.

Andrew Hiller (00:50):

What? Which one?

Sevan Matossian (00:50):

The Hiller fit review show

Andrew Hiller (00:53):

That was taken by fury photography. We brought him up before. Yeah, there you go. It’s way more expensive than it used to be.

Sevan Matossian (01:00):

I have one of those. Oh shit. He is right. It is called this bike. ER, what the fuck does that word mean? ER,

Andrew Hiller (01:07):


Sevan Matossian (01:08):

RG man, like I always heard the rower referred to as the ERG. I thought it was like some synonym for boat.

Andrew Hiller (01:14):

Suzy. You got a yeah. Input on that. What is RG? What it stand out ergonomic. No, cause that would be like a mouse. <laugh> it fits to your hand. Go meter.

Sevan Matossian (01:27):

I had a nice exchange with Richard Marron today in my DMS. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (01:31):

Who’s that?

Sevan Matossian (01:33):

Oh, just like one of the regular listeners.

Andrew Hiller (01:37):

It was what was it about?

Sevan Matossian (01:38):

It was just cool. Like it touched me. It moved me a little bit.

Andrew Hiller (01:42):

Well, are you gonna go any deeper than that or do I have to keep pulling at you?

Sevan Matossian (01:46):

No, I’m

Andrew Hiller (01:46):

Not going to you. Don’t you’re I’m you had a good conversation. Just get everyone wondering, just like everything you’ve done with Daniel, Brandon and uh,

Sevan Matossian (01:53):

I haven’t done anything. I’m

Andrew Hiller (01:54):

Sitting there. I’m like what happened? Wanna know?

Sevan Matossian (01:56):

I haven’t done anything with Danielle, Brandon, that anyone should be wondering about don’t let Hiller start.

Andrew Hiller (02:01):

Not that you personally did shit.

Sevan Matossian (02:03):

There’s stuff that I wanted. I wish I knew.

Andrew Hiller (02:06):

I wish I knew things. Everyone wishes. They knew things and no one knows anything <laugh> which is the way that it should be. I suppose. So

Sevan Matossian (02:14):

Someone, someone else DMing is like, you thought you were gonna get Koler to talk. You thought

Andrew Hiller (02:22):

Pull up that, pull up that Jake Kelly comment. It’s the ultimate compliment right there. If you could. I, I wish I, I that’s the best part about running the shows is you can just like click on, pull him up as you see him. Thanks.

Sevan Matossian (02:34):

Says, says the dude with arms bigger than his head. Look at his fucking arm.

Andrew Hiller (02:38):

<laugh> oh, I mean, it’s awesome. Don’t you want arms bigger than your head.

Sevan Matossian (02:43):

It is awesome. But that dudes, that dudes juice to the gills

Andrew Hiller (02:47):

Am my arms bigger than

Sevan Matossian (02:47):

My head. No, no, they’re nice, but they’re not bigger. Thanks.

Andrew Hiller (02:51):

I got a, I got a video coming out today, which is just, it’s like an interesting you’ll see. Maybe you’ll like it. Maybe a walk.

Sevan Matossian (02:58):

Oh, that’s all you got. I have a video coming out today. You’ll see. That’s all you got.

Andrew Hiller (03:02):

<laugh> some, you know, it takes one. You know I gotta play the game. No dude. You’re all good. I wasn’t think his talking shit. It’s a compliment here on steroids. It’s just like, thank you, California hormones, that shirt.

Sevan Matossian (03:19):

So, uh, what’s up dude?

Andrew Hiller (03:20):

What’s up? Sev. How are you, man? See, this is the, it’s the leader Jersey. You like it?

Sevan Matossian (03:25):

No rev get lower. Uh, it, it looks awfully like the GW 1, 5 0 1 16 shirt.

Andrew Hiller (03:31):

I have that somewhere. I don’t know where I wore it yesterday and then I was sweating too much in it. Oh, it’s right here. Hell yeah, dude. This is

Sevan Matossian (03:39):

Good. Hey Hillary. You know what would be cool if you were into like, if you, um, if you were into night writer and kit, do you remember that show at David Hask? You’re probably too young

Andrew Hiller (03:48):

With a car that talks to you, right?

Sevan Matossian (03:50):

Yeah. Yeah. GW 5 0 1, 516.

Andrew Hiller (03:55):

It’s in his cool army print. It’s not on the site yet. I think he’s gonna put it up after the games, but

Sevan Matossian (04:01):

It is cool. Hey, is it like a fatigue? Look, the shirt.

Andrew Hiller (04:06):

It’s a camo. It’s like a light camo.

Sevan Matossian (04:08):

Oh, that’s dope. I couldn’t tell if it was dirty. Like you cleaned the floor with it or if that was camo. That’s cool.

Andrew Hiller (04:14):

I tried to do a handful of rope climbs in it though. Like somebody that I know.

Sevan Matossian (04:18):

Oh, how’d you do?

Andrew Hiller (04:20):

Uh, elbow. Didn’t hold up. That’s part of the video. Oh, didn’t hold up.

Mattew Souza (04:24):

Does that mean you

Sevan Matossian (04:26):

And still

Andrew Hiller (04:27):

Seven old climb? Bastar <laugh> awesome. So wait a minute. Did that take you seven minutes or did it take you 20

Sevan Matossian (04:34):

Minutes? Oh, fucking talk about it. I don’t think he, I don’t fucking believe the video I did 20 and seven minutes and 10 seconds. And the video comes out and it looks like I did nine. So basically what happened was he’s claiming this. I did 19. And then, then somewhere in there that’s not in the video. I went back and I did. I, I don’t know why, but I did another one for some reason to show him something. So

Andrew Hiller (04:54):

Legless one, you wanted to show, you could do a legless one?

Sevan Matossian (04:56):

No. And then, and then at the end I did the legless one, but then when this dude went back and edited the video, he gave me like a time of over 20 minutes, but I’m going with seven, 10. Fuck him.

Andrew Hiller (05:07):

Seven that’s quick. That was that’s pretty good.

Mattew Souza (05:09):

I was surprised. That was really fast. I thought you’d be about 10, like two row climbs a minute.

Andrew Hiller (05:14):

Yeah, that

Sevan Matossian (05:14):

Was good. I, I felt like I was, I felt like I was sandbagging it until like 18, 19 20 something started like this thing, this movement right here started getting like really tight. Like I was pulling through dry cement.

Andrew Hiller (05:25):

Where did it get tight?

Sevan Matossian (05:26):

Everywhere. LA bicep. Everything just felt like, what the fuck is this? Don’t these don’t feel like my

Andrew Hiller (05:31):

Arms. When’s the last time you did a rope line.

Sevan Matossian (05:34):

It’d been a while. A few months. But I used to do a lot, but it’d been a few months.

Andrew Hiller (05:38):

You say that you’re really good at pulling. You’re just like doing this

Sevan Matossian (05:41):

Pulling. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (05:42):

Yeah. I think we’re the same person. I know where I’m gonna be. When I’m 50,

Sevan Matossian (05:45):

Dude, you have a three, you have a three 50, you said a three 15 bench press in, uh, one of your videos was like, whoa, not impressive. Like I was like, we are not the same person. It

Andrew Hiller (05:53):

Depends on what realm you’re coming from. So you

Sevan Matossian (05:57):

Think, you think if I got all juiced up, I could put a hundred pounds on my bench. Press increase it by 33%. My greatest bench is two 20.

Andrew Hiller (06:04):

Yeah. I’m not sure you have the structure for a three fee. I don’t know if you, you could, I don’t know, seven. You, you might be able to

Sevan Matossian (06:13):

Look at, these are handfuls.

Andrew Hiller (06:16):

You’ve got some nice boobs you’ve been working on those things. You’ve got a good frame. You got a like good triangle shape coming in. You might have less body fat than hopper at this point.

Sevan Matossian (06:25):

No I don’t. I am a fucking

Andrew Hiller (06:27):

Marshmallow. So the first interaction you ever had with me, I don’t even know if you remember. It was, I made that super list with the CrossFitters where I was like, they should be able to do all of these things. And I think it was 30 rounds of Cindy and it was

Sevan Matossian (06:40):

How many rounds?

Andrew Hiller (06:42):

30? Well, cause that’s like, uh, that’s something Chris Buer could do, but he could probably do it operating at what? 92 to 94% effort.

Sevan Matossian (06:51):


Andrew Hiller (06:51):

So you think about someone like a Griffin Raleigh? Could he do 30 rounds of Cindy? It’d be tougher him. Cause he’s a bigger guy. Yeah. But then also on there I had things like a 350 pound bench press for the males as like top of the top. So I’m thinking of a Matt Frazier sort of individual it’s I wonder if I can pull this thing up, but it was a 600 pound deadlift, a 500 pound back squad, a 400 pound. What was the 400? Maybe it was a, maybe it wasn’t a 400 pound bench press because

Sevan Matossian (07:17):

Those are almost double all my PRS. You’re

Andrew Hiller (07:20):

Just like clean jerk. He was a 400 pound cleaning jerk. And I would think about gee and I was thinking like, maybe Frazier could do that. It was me trying to level up Glassman’s benchmark numbers to a modern day or like something people could reach for and 30 rounds of Cindy was in there. I

Sevan Matossian (07:34):

Think whatever Sev can do double it.

Andrew Hiller (07:37):

That that could be a metric.

Sevan Matossian (07:38):


Andrew Hiller (07:40):


Sevan Matossian (07:40):

Be cool. Is it a requirement for Hillary to talk about Seon boobs in this show? Yes.

Andrew Hiller (07:44):

Always. Is that, uh, standard that we’ve done that a lot. We can talk about Sue’s boobs, pull ’em out.

Mattew Souza (07:49):

There’s not much to talk about.

Andrew Hiller (07:51):

Pull ’em out. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (07:53):

So here’s the show. You ready? You’ll send me $5 or I’ll take a discount card on your shirts of $10 a code.

Andrew Hiller (08:01):

All right, Travis, you hear it? We gotta give it to him. Two K row six 30. Kate remembers. Sorry. That was my list. But keep going

Sevan Matossian (08:07):

Kate Kujawa

Andrew Hiller (08:09):

And everyone thought that was too slow. So I think they’re right, but sorry. Continue

Sevan Matossian (08:14):

A ranking one through 10 watch Susan’s face. As I say this, he is gonna fucking love this. A ranking of one, two through 10 of people in the ecosystem. Who are the wealthiest?

Mattew Souza (08:32):


Andrew Hiller (08:33):

Would I need to pull that up via Google docs or Google?

Sevan Matossian (08:36):

No, you could just make up whatever you want. Who gives a fuck? Well,

Mattew Souza (08:39):

You could, you could do that by an estimate. You could do that by an estimate. I mean, they’ll have programming. They all sell stuff. You could kind of generally assume how much purchase they for a month and then you could,

Andrew Hiller (08:47):

I might need some help on that one. You guys.

Sevan Matossian (08:52):

And are they like one and two? Are they both tied for one?

Andrew Hiller (08:56):


Mattew Souza (08:56):

They’re both tied for one they’re one entity. Cause you would just have to do ’em as rogue, right? Because they both own rogue. Katie’s got some other stuff going on and

Sevan Matossian (09:04):

I, I don’t, I don’t know because you know, like, you’ll see like the, the list of the richest people in the world and they’ll have like the, um, the, the Walmart family and they’re like listed in there separately.

Mattew Souza (09:13):

The Walden, the Wal, the Walton. Yeah. What you see? I think that was because after Mr. Walton died,

Sevan Matossian (09:18):

Their shit got divvied up.

Andrew Hiller (09:19):

Mm-hmm <affirmative> Glassman and Henneger ties his catchier.

Sevan Matossian (09:23):

I don’t, no, I don’t think so.

Mattew Souza (09:25):

Same with like the in and out family.

Andrew Hiller (09:26):

You think Henneger is crushing G Glassman.

Sevan Matossian (09:29):

I, I think Henneger has like, yeah, I, yeah. You know, we need to find out if, if Henneger has a jet,

Andrew Hiller (09:37):

Text him, Hey, Hey, are you on your jet? And he’ll either say yes or I don’t have one

Sevan Matossian (09:42):

<laugh> no, he won’t say, oh God, I don’t know if I have the balls to I Don really don’t wanna piss him off.

Andrew Hiller (09:47):

You used to have the biggest balls. You know, I

Sevan Matossian (09:48):

Did. I’m getting, I’m getting little I’ve fucking, I have 6,000 followers on my new account. I don’t wanna fuck it up. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (09:56):

Your old one came back. No

Sevan Matossian (09:57):

It, and it went away again. It went away again. It went,

Andrew Hiller (10:00):

You mind just got

Mattew Souza (10:01):

Shit, keeps washing in and out. You

Andrew Hiller (10:04):

Got ding messaging this morning. And I think that whoever I made that video on yesterday sent the hounds after me. And they, uh, they made get a little bit of, yeah. Yeah. They didn’t like that. I was coming after him for talking shit about cross it crush. She got crushed. Usually was all over that.

Mattew Souza (10:19):

Yeah, that pissed me off. Hey,

Andrew Hiller (10:21):

I was so angry. I saw that and I was so angry. I was, I, I, I had to fire up the camera. I haven’t been angry like that in a bit. Like I gotta turn it on. I don’t care what I’m doing.

Mattew Souza (10:29):

It was

Sevan Matossian (10:29):

Great. That girl is so fucking stupid. Imagine you’re saving people with the fucking imagine you’re saving people. Like the people are drowning in the ocean. You’re out there and you’re fucking rubber dinghy saving people. And she’s critiquing the color of your boat. I mean, that’s what it was. Her shit was so fucking moronic and superficial.

Mattew Souza (10:50):


Andrew Hiller (10:51):

I was hoping you’d see it. That’d be good for this show. Wow.

Sevan Matossian (10:54):

I got some, how,

Andrew Hiller (10:55):

How bad were you when you watch that?

Sevan Matossian (10:57):

It’s so bad that I don’t even know. Um,

Andrew Hiller (11:00):

Do you wanna give it like effort? Yeah. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (11:04):

You have to, you, you said one thing in there though that I do wanna course correct. It’s the last you do. You have to understand when Greg said Floyd 19, it was the exact opposite. It was, it was as racist as saying, um, I wanna save black people because in its essence, that is racist because you’re distinguishing people between their color, but that’s all he was fucking saying. Do not let the people who fucking handled our COVID policy handle our, um, race relations policy because we saw what happened with COVID

Mattew Souza (11:35):

Yep. Disaster.

Sevan Matossian (11:37):

And so for anyone to think that that’s racist and then someone in the comments wrote he’s overtly racist. That’s the woke fucking ambiguousness. I hate you took the time to write that. Tell me what he did. That was racist. You think it’s racist to say that I don’t want, he said, I think he also said I don’t don’t mourn George Floyd’s death. How is that racist? Unless you, unless you’re racist and you only see the world through people’s color, it’s fucking,

Andrew Hiller (12:04):

I knew you cover it. You know, you, you know, you say I left it out, but I knew I knew you,

Sevan Matossian (12:09):

You didn’t leave it out. I felt like you agreed with him. You actually pissed me off. Okay.

Andrew Hiller (12:12):

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I, I just have a certain stance that I take in my stuff and I knew that you would be all over it, so, okay. <laugh> so wait,

Sevan Matossian (12:22):

And then here’s the thing, the dumbest thing she said at the end, this is the most unbelievable part. She said, I respect the sport. So I wanna tell you, I wanna tell you that the three, I wanna tell you,

Andrew Hiller (12:32):

Did you like my little thing there?

Sevan Matossian (12:33):

<laugh> I gonna tell you the three things about CrossFit? Probably a lot of you don’t know this. If you want to be smart about CrossFit, these are the, these are the three, this is the order. You keep things. The fact that it has the, um, uh, cure for the world’s most vexing problem. The only thing that’s so sad about that is the fact that the leadership doesn’t talk about it every single day. That is so sad. That is their only, like when she says she has a vision or, or someone has a yeah. When the CEO says she has a vision for a hundred thousand affiliates that should piss affiliates off, her vision should be to spread the word that you guys have the cure for the world’s most vexing problem. That’s the cure for chronic disease. The second thing about CrossFit is that it’s a small business miracle.

Sevan Matossian (13:18):

There’s never, he is think of all the jobs fucking Greg Glassman created. The barrier to entry is so fucking low. And yet the tools you receive are so fucking high. And then the third thing mm-hmm <affirmative> is just the fact that he got men and women to fucking work out almost naked for us. That that’s the CrossFit games. That was just the byproduct <laugh> yeah, that’s the CrossFit games. Oh, ladies put on bra and panties and get out there and move men, fucking get as jacked as you can and run around cones for us. So we can point cameras at you and fucking <laugh> that’s it. That’s it. That’s it. There it is. I just told you fucking idiots and these fucking people I’ve been tripping on these people with the burning twin towers here, as they’re, as, as every time I seen the, um, noble, I just think, oh, they’re, they’re really, really stuck on the burning of the twin towers. But I was thinking about this too. They support out wa which supports men and women’s sports, but which also, I bet supports hormone blockers for kids. How is any parent out there supporting this company? Not this company, but this company

Sevan Matossian (14:29):

I, I would support just taking, I would support if at the CrossFit games, everyone take their Nobles off and throw ’em onto the field. First pissing first, pissing

Andrew Hiller (14:39):

Them. You know what noble will do. They’d pick ’em up and S ’em at a discounted rate, right? <laugh> for like 30.

Sevan Matossian (14:45):

What, what is, what is the deal here? I heard someone said that noble has come back and said, these are different shirts. These are the ones the athletes wore. And that’s why, where that’s why they’re more expensive. Which makes me just say, so the ones last year, weren’t the ones they wore. What? What’s the, what’s the bottom line on that? Why does Lauren kil say that? The bot, what does that mean? The bottom line? Why does she ask if I’ve, if I’ve ever on her show and she asked me what the bottom line is? Um, I don’t know. I, I don’t,

Andrew Hiller (15:10):

<laugh>, it’s amazing.

Sevan Matossian (15:11):

I don’t always, I,

Andrew Hiller (15:13):

No matter who she asks that to, it’s ready to shoot out, like, oh, I have a bottom line. I know I’d be like, what the hell did we just talk about the past?

Mattew Souza (15:21):

<laugh> it’s probably set up that way. Right? She’s like, I’m gonna do this, ask these questions. And at the end of it, ask what the bottom line is.

Sevan Matossian (15:27):

But what is my bottom line is I’m not, I only came on your show. So you would come work for me. I mean like what, what, what, what am I, what’s

Andrew Hiller (15:33):

The bottom line. That’s my bottom line. That’s the only reason I’m here. That’s what you would say. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (15:37):

Yeah. Recording you. And someone thought the phone call in that video with me doing the road climbs. When SU called it was staged.

Mattew Souza (15:45):

<laugh> wait. Somebody said it was staged.

Andrew Hiller (15:48):

Yeah. Why? What was, what would be the point of that?

Sevan Matossian (15:51):

I, I have fucking people are so crazy. Hey, that’s the way you think. Definitely not staged. You think that? Yeah. Yeah. You’re like Mr. Analytical. You think like that too? Dave thinks like that too. Like you guys are always like, there’s no coincidence. Someone you guys are like, you guys are sponsors.

Andrew Hiller (16:06):

I think, I think what I think is you guys talk to each other a lot more than we think. Well, that’s

Sevan Matossian (16:10):


Andrew Hiller (16:10):

I thought I saw. That was the parallel I was drawing. I was like, geez. That’s true. He was just trying to do a little workout and SU is bothering him. <laugh> not

Mattew Souza (16:17):

Had VI fact. I didn’t know he was working out. Totally.

Andrew Hiller (16:20):

I know. I know. I know. Seven’s always working out though.

Sevan Matossian (16:24):


Mattew Souza (16:25):

That’s true.

Andrew Hiller (16:26):

SU or did you see those things I sent you? Is it possible to,

Mattew Souza (16:30):

Oh, you text me. Sorry. I was staring at,

Sevan Matossian (16:32):

Do you like the show of, I think that’ll be a huge show. If you rank people, by how much money they make,

Andrew Hiller (16:37):

I would need to do a whole lot of groundwork. I just don’t. I mean, you can do it on Google, but those are never right. I think if you Google.

Sevan Matossian (16:43):

Yeah. But who cares? If you’re wrong?

Andrew Hiller (16:44):

Like 2.5 I could guess. And

Sevan Matossian (16:47):

Yeah. Who cares? Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (16:48):

I think the more

Mattew Souza (16:50):

Estimate that’s dude. That’s what for does Forbes does anyway,

Sevan Matossian (16:53):

Like just start making the list. Bill and Katie Miranda. Um, uh,

Andrew Hiller (16:59):

Oh yeah. There’s people you aren’t even thinking about, huh?

Sevan Matossian (17:01):

Yeah. Who,

Mattew Souza (17:02):

Who, who?

Andrew Hiller (17:03):

I don’t say I’ll save it for the show.

Sevan Matossian (17:05):

Rich Fring. Uh, Matt Fraser. Just start, make a list of like 30 people and then start crossing richest people

Andrew Hiller (17:10):

To ever be in CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (17:13):

Yeah. Richest people in the ecosystem. Not like you can’t make your money from the outside. Really. Maybe make that the rule, the richest people in the ecosystem.

Andrew Hiller (17:22):

I wonder, um, how the Iceland piece people are doing comparison.

Sevan Matossian (17:26):

You think I fucked the Haley Adams video up?

Andrew Hiller (17:30):

Yeah. I told you right away. Didn’t I?

Sevan Matossian (17:32):

Yeah. You were the first person who told me. I think I talked to you a couple hours later. You’re like, dude,

Andrew Hiller (17:36):

You, so other people also told you.

Sevan Matossian (17:38):

Yeah, unfortunately

Andrew Hiller (17:39):

<laugh> what did they say? Was it along the lines of what I said as well?

Sevan Matossian (17:42):

No. You’re like, Hey dude, you really fucked up the other, like three people who on the internet who said I sucked are just, it’s the same shit, dude. You’re a fucking creepy weirdo.

Andrew Hiller (17:50):

I didn’t say that.

Sevan Matossian (17:51):

I know you didn’t. I’m just telling you that’s the other, that’s the other, uh,

Andrew Hiller (17:57):

What I said was I believe that you were making her second guess herself often because you, that the

Sevan Matossian (18:03):

Show is good. And that’s the opposite of what I want to do that broke my heart.

Andrew Hiller (18:07):

So it’d be like, we’re talking, we’re talking, we’re talking and I’m here. And then you’d be like, God, things are weird. I’d be like, are things weird? <laugh> what’s weird. What did I do? What did I say? And she kept on like second guessing everything she was saying, I don’t know, am I not vibing? Am I rooting the conversation? And you’ve done 500 episodes. And through your 500 episodes, I’ve probably listened to what? 80% of ’em. And I think you’ve only done that. Like once you’re like picking on her, you’re like, this is so weird. I just don’t know what to do with my hands.

Sevan Matossian (18:35):

You know what happened is I went through like two pages of notes that should have lasted me, like fucking a three, five hour show. And I went through two pages and I’m like, oh fuck. Now what

Andrew Hiller (18:46):

Tells you? She’s all business. And she’s gonna be on the podium. Yeah. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (18:51):

I, I, I guess I short answers who, and instead, instead of taking responsibility myself, I started blaming her.

Andrew Hiller (18:59):

Ooh, there

Sevan Matossian (19:00):

You go. I should have been like, God Haley make me so nervous.

Mattew Souza (19:03):

I swooped in with a dead freezer, cat story. So we were good.

Sevan Matossian (19:06):

God, that was

Andrew Hiller (19:07):

So good. You know, what’s funny. I was walking,

Sevan Matossian (19:09):

Just talking about it.

Andrew Hiller (19:10):

Makes sense. He phone in and I was in the freezer section and I like <laugh> when, when I’m like, this is weird. I hate, I hate weird. I weird coincidences. Cause there are like, why is this happening while I’m next to this freezer?

Sevan Matossian (19:22):

<laugh> I wish you would’ve called and saved me. Like just showing up with a Batman mask, like down below. Oh, look, killer’s here with some questions.

Andrew Hiller (19:28):

I think I was listening. It recorded. It wasn’t live.

Sevan Matossian (19:32):

You said, you said in one of your shows this week, you said that you think Craig Richie has good content

Andrew Hiller (19:41):

Used to. He used to have very good content. Go look, pull, pull up his channel and it sort it reversal.

Sevan Matossian (19:46):

Oh please. Don’t please. Don’t

Andrew Hiller (19:48):

All right. I’ll pull it up. <laugh> all right. Don’t pull up.

Sevan Matossian (19:52):

Hey dude. It it’s it’s

Mattew Souza (19:54):

He’s just, just an ass cuz it’s getting close

Sevan Matossian (19:55):

To the games. Yeah. That’s what you to see all these people. That’s what I think. That’s what I thought. I think you’re, you’re gonna see him at the games and you’re just trying to like make it a little bit smoother.

Andrew Hiller (20:03):

No, no, no, no, no. He’s he’s completely backwards. And I, you know what? I also have to understand that. What have I been doing this for four or five months? He’s been doing it for four or five years.

Sevan Matossian (20:13):


Andrew Hiller (20:14):

But when he started it was awesome. He’d go visit rich in the barn and you’d watch Frazier jerk 400 pounds. Like where else did you see that? You saw it on the Richard channel and that sort of thing. It used to be good.

Sevan Matossian (20:27):

There’s a lot of people who like it. I mean, his numbers are insane, but it is

Andrew Hiller (20:32):

Let’s throw your show to 500,000 subscribers. And it’s all because of this. I think five years down the line, you’ll have people who are still around, cuz they’re waiting for those good parts of you. Even if you were completely Joe Rogan or whatever, what do you Howard stern. You just don’t like him anymore, right?

Sevan Matossian (20:49):


Andrew Hiller (20:50):

You used to like him.

Sevan Matossian (20:51):

Yeah. I loved him.

Andrew Hiller (20:52):

And that was a sellout in your head, right?

Sevan Matossian (20:53):


Andrew Hiller (20:55):

There’s your comparison?

Mattew Souza (20:56):

Just the life cycle. Say

Andrew Hiller (20:58):

Yeah. What, what are you gonna be like Seon when you’re 55. You’re not 50. You’re 55

Mattew Souza (21:02):

King of the world

Sevan Matossian (21:03):

Sell out.

Mattew Souza (21:05):

Rich is as flak. Sell it out.

Andrew Hiller (21:07):

<laugh> someone’s gonna offer you a hundred million dollars and you’re gonna be say promoting the vaccine and shit. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (21:16):

The Seon podcast brought to you by Pfizer.

Mattew Souza (21:20):


Sevan Matossian (21:22):


Andrew Hiller (21:24):

I’m gonna clip that out.

Sevan Matossian (21:26):

I just wanna start this show by saying, sorry for all 3 million of you that I fucked your moms in the comments. I’m so sorry.

Andrew Hiller (21:33):

Oh, I was listening to that this morning.

Sevan Matossian (21:35):


Andrew Hiller (21:36):

Isn’t that a Netflix show?

Sevan Matossian (21:38):

I fucked your mom.

Mattew Souza (21:39):

No, our father, we were talking about

Andrew Hiller (21:41):

It. The moms we were getting the, they went to go see the doctor.

Sevan Matossian (21:46):

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrew Hiller (21:48):

But that’s

Mattew Souza (21:49):

Gonna be you.

Sevan Matossian (21:51):

I’m so sorry for what I said about your mom and the comments. Thank you Pfizer for the millions and I will never, ever talk shit about noble again. Giving beta blockers to little kids is totally fine.

Andrew Hiller (22:01):

Talk to you. Bye Pfizer. Talk you by Johnson and Johnson.

Sevan Matossian (22:06):

Thank you. Thank you. Black lives matter. It’s okay. That um, homicides with black males have gone up 34% since you popped up on the scene. It’s no big deal.

Andrew Hiller (22:14):

I can see it for 200 million right there. Yeah. You saying

Sevan Matossian (22:16):

That and anyone with a gun should be taken and flown to uh, Siberia. Thank you.

Andrew Hiller (22:23):

You ever been there? You’ve been a lot of places. You, you talk shit like you know something.

Sevan Matossian (22:31):

I don’t think I’ve ever been to Northern. Uh, I don’t think I’ve been to Northern Russia. I think that I think the only place in Russia actually. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I’ve been to two places.

Andrew Hiller (22:43):

Brought you by GW.

Sevan Matossian (22:44):

Maybe three. No, I’ve not. I haven’t been to Siberia. I’ve been to Siberia. I interviewed a fighter. Who’s from there the other day, he said it’s fucking tough as shit.

Andrew Hiller (22:54):

Siberia is.

Sevan Matossian (22:54):

Yeah. Like really tough. Just the lifestyle there. The people on the streets, just, just fucking there’s a lot. It’s tough. They’re they’re hard.

Andrew Hiller (23:03):

You do Iraq.

Sevan Matossian (23:03):

They’re high, hard people. I have not been to Och. I haven’t been to Och or yet on

Andrew Hiller (23:08):

How about Afghanistan?

Sevan Matossian (23:09):

I have not been to Afghanistan.

Andrew Hiller (23:11):

So when I was at the affiliate, there was, it was in a strip mall. It was, it was a pretty nice building. It was on the road. Unlike a lot of affiliates of how they’re kind of in, I don’t know. They they’re in the back. He had to go find them. But we were on a main road and there’d be all these other gyms that would also open up next to us. And at one point there was a body building dude who opened up his gym and he’d wander over and he’d be like, I’m going to bring you to Iraq. We’re going to do fitness stuff over in Iraq. And he’d like, I’ll pay for your ticket. You can bring your wife. And I’m like, she’s not my wife. You can bring your wife. And then I had a cop buddy. He goes, do not go to Iraq with that guy. Don’t do it. I’m like why he goes, you don’t want it. You will not come back. I was like, I don’t know anything.

Sevan Matossian (23:49):

You do wanna go to Iraq with that guy.

Andrew Hiller (23:51):

I did. I really wanted to. I was, I was <laugh> I just kept the guy like do not do it. I repeat. Do not do that.

Sevan Matossian (23:59):

I think Kayla might be an E rock right now or Iran.

Andrew Hiller (24:03):

I would’ve seen him while I was there

Sevan Matossian (24:04):

Or Afghanistan. But you, but you never went.

Andrew Hiller (24:08):

No, I re I wanted to, but then his gym shut down for, I don’t know. It was really sketchy. All it was there and then it wasn’t and I never saw him again. It’s probably all for the best.

Sevan Matossian (24:17):

Here’s the reason why I don’t like Craig Ritchie stuff and I haven’t watched a lot of it. But the, the stuff I have watched is cuz I don’t walk away remembering anything. It’s just him. It’s um, there there’s nothing in there that I walk away thinking. I, I I’m I’m smarter. It’s like watching, uh, the road runner. When my kids are watching road runner in coyote, it’s just completely empty. And his opinions on stuff are, are like the 6 million foot view. They say nothing.

Andrew Hiller (24:43):

Damn. I hate that. I know exactly what you mean.

Sevan Matossian (24:46):

It’s it’s like, it’s like, he’s looking, he’s looking at the earth from fucking three planets away being like it’s raining down there and like, you also agree. I don’t care if it’s raining down here. Which continent is it raining on? What

Andrew Hiller (24:57):

Do you hate the face to face view too? Where it’s almost as if you’re so close. You don’t see anything else. There’s like a, a happy medium between 10,000 foot.

Sevan Matossian (25:05):

Yeah, I talk. Yeah. That’s the people who think I’m getting rid of handguns or, or, um, or quarantining or putting masks on work. They’re like snails. They only see the one to one ratio. Okay. My mouth is covered. Everything must be great now. Yeah. That’s the snail. That’s the snail view.

Andrew Hiller (25:19):

Yeah. So how do you say you look at things?

Sevan Matossian (25:22):

I can do it all

Mattew Souza (25:23):

Clouds and dirt clouds

Sevan Matossian (25:24):

And dirt. I focus and scope. I can look down. I can be a snail. I can be the 3 million foot view. I can, I can, I can do it all. I’m not.

Andrew Hiller (25:31):

You’re either a snail or you’re a Hawk.

Sevan Matossian (25:33):

Yeah, I can do. Yeah, I can do it all. I can even be like Bigfoot and just go, like,

Andrew Hiller (25:37):

That’s gonna be your new logo. It’s gonna be a snail Hawk, Hawk with the shell on its back. Whoever

Mattew Souza (25:42):

Can zoom out between the two of those. The best wins

Sevan Matossian (25:46):


Mattew Souza (25:46):

Same works.

Sevan Matossian (25:47):

You use the word pernickety

Andrew Hiller (25:50):

I did not.

Sevan Matossian (25:51):

Yeah, you did.

Andrew Hiller (25:52):

<laugh> okay. I believe you

Sevan Matossian (25:54):

Per I

Andrew Hiller (25:55):

Start the camera. I don’t know what comes out. My mouth

Sevan Matossian (25:57):

Per oh, I should have time code that.

Mattew Souza (25:59):

Yeah. And slow mode. It like he does per

Andrew Hiller (26:01):

Do you remember the context?

Sevan Matossian (26:03):

I don’t. I should have damn. Oh, okay. Hold on. Um,

Andrew Hiller (26:06):

Use it. You seem to remember it too.

Sevan Matossian (26:07):

It was in the defending pro. It was in the defending CrossFit episode. I think you refer, you were talking about the girl being all persnickety. I gotta hold this up. Can you look up that word? I don’t know if you used it, right. Can you look up that word?

Andrew Hiller (26:20):

You tend to do this. And I tend to get fucked over by a whole bunch of people saying I’m using the wrong words and

Sevan Matossian (26:24):

Hey dude, the games are gonna be so weird. You, the games are gonna be so I, I wish I could go to the games just to watch how weird it’s gonna be for you.

Andrew Hiller (26:35):

<laugh> but oh,

Mattew Souza (26:36):

Don’t worry. I’m gonna stream right behind them. So we’ll all get to watch

Andrew Hiller (26:38):

It. Let me, let me, let me hear why you say it’s gonna be weird. And let me tell you why it’s not gonna be weird.

Sevan Matossian (26:44):

Cause people are, you’re going be, you’re not gonna, you like to you like listening to your thoughts and, and you’re introspective person and you’re like, you you’re listening to the story in your head and like you’re taking an info and that’s how you create stuff. And you’re not gonna get any time to do that.

Andrew Hiller (27:00):


Sevan Matossian (27:01):

You’re gonna be fucking, that’s

Andrew Hiller (27:02):

Why you’re not leaving you. You’re speaking. That’s why you’re not going. And you’re, uh, projecting

Sevan Matossian (27:08):

True and you’re, and you’re gonna be mobbed. And uh, it’s just gonna be, you’re gonna like it for eight seconds. You’re gonna, you’re not even gonna be able to get, you’re gonna wanna give someone attention and then like three other people are gonna come up and try to talk to you and you’re gonna be like, what the fuck? I can’t just

Andrew Hiller (27:24):

The impression that no one wants to talk to me. That’s what’s gonna happen. That, that, that’s why that’s the difference. I’m gonna walk around and be like, oh, is that fucking guy on YouTube?

Sevan Matossian (27:31):

No. You’re like people’s friend. People are, people are gonna feel like they know you. And that they’re your best friend because you’re chill. Placing too much emphasis

Andrew Hiller (27:38):

On this is exactly. This is exactly how I would probably want to use it. No.

Sevan Matossian (27:43):

Yeah. I think you used it perfectly, right? Actually.

Andrew Hiller (27:46):

Yeah. It seems like something. She was doing placing too much emphasis on something trivial or minor. Like the fact that she left out. Well, the thing that I failed to put in there and Alexis pointed it out, is she in there? It says major the basics or master the basics of gymnastics. Right? Basics is a very key word. She says, master gymnastics, like front flips and back clips. I’m like you son of a bitch, the basics of gymnastics, what is wrong with you?

Sevan Matossian (28:12):

Got it. And

Andrew Hiller (28:12):

There was nothing that made me more angry than reading her responses in the Instagram section. She took absolutely no accountability. Susan, were you reading those? She was like going back and forth with me a little bit. And I was just like looking for anything that she had that could have been, oh, I understand where you were coming from or, oh, I watched your video one. She never said that she watched the video two. She’s just like, oh, thanks for making me go viral. I’m like, bitch, do you understand that 600 likes on a video is not going viral? Like if you think that’s viral, then I understand what’s solve wrong about you. And then three, she’s just like, well, you’re just doing the same thing I’m doing and I’m gonna take the moral high ground. I’m like, fuck. You’re not, let’s go with duke it out in here. And she didn’t want to do it. Yeah. She had nothing.

Sevan Matossian (28:53):

What’s her. Well, I, I click to her profile. Will you pull her profile up? SU yeah,

Andrew Hiller (28:58):

Let me see. How pretend do you wanna be my bodyguard? If

Sevan Matossian (29:01):

You guys don’t know what we’re talking about. Cause we haven’t said it. She basically took Glassman’s 100 fitness and a hundred words and tried to tear it up. And it’s just nuts because it’s so concise. It’s so tight. And

Andrew Hiller (29:13):

I, uh, I agree. I sent

Sevan Matossian (29:15):

And for anyone to tear that up is just mind boggling to me.

Andrew Hiller (29:19):

She made a fitness in 80 words because she’s that much more concise. Did

Sevan Matossian (29:23):


Andrew Hiller (29:23):

She did. Yeah. I sent it to you guys.

Sevan Matossian (29:26):

Where is it? In the private chat?

Andrew Hiller (29:28):

Uh, text message thread. But it’s also here. We gotta click on med fit. Co-owner it’s in the, it’s in her description and then it’s like the third post second post fourth post. Unless she took it down. No, she took it. Nope. Nope. She took it down. Haha.

Sevan Matossian (29:42):

Oh she did

Andrew Hiller (29:44):

It. It was on here. I swear to God, but don’t worry. I screenshotted it. And you guys have it in your text thread?

Sevan Matossian (29:49):

Oh no, no, but that’s not. No, that’s not her account.

Andrew Hiller (29:52):

I know it’s not, but that’s where she no, it’s her company. That’s where she maybe it’s metabolic click on the second one. Look, they have cookies in hers. Look at her.

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