#501 – HillerFit Review Show

Andrew Hiller (00:01):

It’s covering it up. Oh, you didn’t do your pre-show bike. Huh?

Sevan Matossian (00:06):

Bam we’re live. No, no, no, I don’t. I don’t do the pre-show. I don’t do the, I thought you

Andrew Hiller (00:10):

Did before every show.

Sevan Matossian (00:11):

No, not for the 7:00 AM ones, but the other ones. Are

Andrew Hiller (00:14):

You so spritely?

Sevan Matossian (00:15):

Yeah. Yeah. Did you already teach a class, Susan? No, no, no. I just got up probably about, about 30 minutes ago.

Andrew Hiller (00:22):


Sevan Matossian (00:22):

40 minutes ago. Yeah. Me too. What did you do? You already worked out Hiller.

Andrew Hiller (00:26):

I worked out, yeah. I had this interval that I like to do just to kind of see where I’m at

Sevan Matossian (00:31):

With rowing,

Andrew Hiller (00:32):

Rowing. Yeah, I’ve kind, I’ve probably done it 200, 300 times. At this point, you set the rower up to 300, me 300 meter repeats with a one minute rest interval and you try to get ’em as close to one another as possible. I’ll do ’em for anywhere for 10 to 20 intervals. True. And I’m still breathing heavy. So <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (00:52):

I, I, I guess that depends how, I guess the difficulty of that depends on how fast you’re you’re going.

Andrew Hiller (00:58):

Correct. So I usually tell people to start about their two KPR pace and see how long you can hold onto it for. And if you can do 20 intervals, then you take a couple seconds off of that. And then you see if you can hold it for 20 intervals and like 10 to 20. So I’ll stop. Right.

Sevan Matossian (01:12):

And how, and how long and how long is each?

Andrew Hiller (01:15):

It’s a 300 meter interval with a one minute rest period. And then you see how close you can get ’em to one another. So I try to end him today at like 59.7 was my goal finishing spot just under a minute.

Sevan Matossian (01:26):

Oh shit. Um, I, I would do this, go to hotel workout. I’ve probably done it a hundred times in my life. Maybe more, uh, where it’s, um, row a two 50. Keep it under a minute. 15 pushups rounds.

Andrew Hiller (01:42):

You keep the row under a minute or the row

Sevan Matossian (01:44):

And the pushups. No, no, no, no, just the row. Just the wrap. Cause there’d be you can, I, I wouldn’t lolly gag on the pushups, but you can lolly gag on the pushups if you want, but it’s it’s fuck, man. It’s an gnarly workout.

Andrew Hiller (01:55):

How many rounds of that?

Sevan Matossian (01:56):

Do you do 10. So you get 150 pushups in, uh, th uh, what is it? 2,500 meters. Yeah. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (02:06):

So I know this is called the, uh, the Hiller R review show, but we can do a seven on review show too.

Sevan Matossian (02:11):

Hiller, RT, Hiller,

Andrew Hiller (02:13):

RT. The Ribit. Yeah. I’m I’m not quite there yet. I I’ll gimme five minutes. I’ll be a hundred percent there, but I listen to your, uh, Eddie, if what’s his show, the podcast podcast. Oh yeah. I listened. I listened to your show on there.

Sevan Matossian (02:27):

How was it? Good.

Andrew Hiller (02:29):

It’s a different side of you.

Sevan Matossian (02:30):

Oh, it is.

Andrew Hiller (02:32):

It’s it’s more or less you, but there’s a, there’s like a different twist on you. It it’s interesting when you’re not the one running the show, he kind of takes it in the directions he wants to, and then you’ll, you’ll ease off and then you’ll come back later and then it’ll be like, wait a minute. We don’t wanna talk about that.

Sevan Matossian (02:45):

<laugh> I there’s some, I, I feel like I took him into some deep waters. There was some shit that he wasn’t too comfortable with.

Andrew Hiller (02:52):

I agree. It, it was, uh, it was awesome. You covered a lot of different things. The reason I brought it up just there is because you were talking about your pushups. Yeah. And then you in there, you talked about Donald Trump’s Jr. Just MERF time. And how you tried to correlate it to your Cindy. When’s the last time you did Cindy?

Sevan Matossian (03:09):

A lot a year.

Mattew Souza (03:11):

That challenge coming on

Andrew Hiller (03:15):

Soon sees right through me.

Sevan Matossian (03:17):

Ah, I haven’t been sending a long time. That was all. Say it again. While

Andrew Hiller (03:23):

You round 20 rounds in 20 minutes, you think you can do it?

Mattew Souza (03:26):

Oh, it’s a tall order.

Andrew Hiller (03:28):

Cause I believe that’s what you said you had done on the watch

Sevan Matossian (03:31):

Podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Is

Andrew Hiller (03:34):

The fitness sticking with you or what?

Sevan Matossian (03:36):

Probably even a little faster than, than, um, 20 minutes. Not much, but because that last round I started 19 minutes, you know mm-hmm

Andrew Hiller (03:47):


Sevan Matossian (03:47):

So it’s like,

Andrew Hiller (03:49):

And then what did you get on that second bike? On your other video?

Sevan Matossian (03:52):

Oh, 70, 70. I got 70.

Andrew Hiller (03:54):

I don’t know if I missed it, but I went,

Sevan Matossian (03:56):

No, no, it’s not in there. I asked the filmmaker, I’m like, where’s the second score. He goes, who cares? I’m like, damn so

Andrew Hiller (04:02):

80. 70 is no joke. That’s pretty good.

Mattew Souza (04:03):

Yeah. He just left a little suspense at the end. He didn’t really this

Sevan Matossian (04:06):

Dude doesn doesn’t give a shit. I, someone of the comments goes, I thought I clicked away from this the way it just ended. I, I thought the whole fucking video was a mess, but people like it. I, I don’t know what the fuck’s going on.

Mattew Souza (04:16):

I also went back and read watched then because I was like, wait, did I miss something? And then when I was paid more close attention and saw it, I thought it was great. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (04:23):

Well, I asked him the other day, I put a video together on this, the whole bike workout that Brian put on, on his Instagram. Thanks. Uh, and I asked Devon on the phone, he didn’t even know what he got. I’m like, what’d you get? Just so I know. I’m like I putting the video together. He’s like, I don’t know. I’m like, alright, I’ll wait for the video. I watched the video and it’s not in there either. I’m like, all right. So I’ll, I’ll ask him today.

Sevan Matossian (04:41):

Oh yeah. I knew I was lying to you. I don’t remember saying that, but I was definitely lying to you cuz I knew. Cause I, I got aid the first time and when I got on it the second time, I was just like, there’s no fucking way. I’m going to that place again.

Andrew Hiller (04:53):

Yeah. You look like you’re in a bad spot. Yeah. Oh

Mattew Souza (04:55):


Andrew Hiller (04:56):

It’s what you talk about all the time with these games. Athletes who leave and then like you can never come back cuz you don’t wanna do that anymore.

Mattew Souza (05:02):

That’s a perfect

Andrew Hiller (05:02):

Second bike interval.

Sevan Matossian (05:04):

<laugh> that better. But, but when you did it on the assault bike, you got better in your second round.

Andrew Hiller (05:11):

I’ve spent my entire CrossFit career, negative, negative splitting. Just trying to like increase my paces round if a round after, after round to the point where I think it might be a detriment of mine, I would redo workouts 3, 4, 5 times. And I’d get better every single time. <laugh> be better. Like how much fatigue built in. It was just always better.

Mattew Souza (05:31):

Helen, have you ever done 30 on 30 off or 30 rounds on the assault bike before

Andrew Hiller (05:35):

I’ve done 20 rounds. I’ve never done 30. Why would you building into

Mattew Souza (05:39):

There? Well, I’d be curious to see, because my old, uh, business partner that originally started the gym with me, he was just a monster on the assault bike, but he’s probably, he’s probably close to your age. Seven, maybe like a year or so. Uh, younger and smokes, like 35 cigarettes a day. And so I’d always make the joke that he has to donate his body to science afterwards. Cause we could figure it out, but he does 30 on 30 off and his last score was 421 calories

Andrew Hiller (06:03):

Taking a note of that in my head.

Mattew Souza (06:05):

So it’s like almost like plus one. So yeah. It’s like, it’s like 16 or

Sevan Matossian (06:09):

17. So that’s 421 calories in an hour but half. What is

Mattew Souza (06:13):

That? That’s no half hour. A half hour.

Andrew Hiller (06:15):

What is that

Mattew Souza (06:16):

Interval over? It’s like almost, it’s like almost a,

Andrew Hiller (06:19):

I’ve been there. 12 and interval.

Mattew Souza (06:20):

No, it’s like 16 and a half interval. Almost 17 calories.

Andrew Hiller (06:23):

No it’s fucking away.

Mattew Souza (06:24):

Yeah. And he did. And he did it at altitude. He lives in Tahoe.

Andrew Hiller (06:28):

Double check that 4 21 divided by 30. It’s like 14 interval.

Mattew Souza (06:33):

There you go. 14 interval,

Andrew Hiller (06:35):

14.3 in interval. Okay. That’s that’s pretty good. I used to do this workout. It was 90 on 90 off for eight rounds, 60 on 60 off for 12 rounds and 30 on 30 off for 24 rounds straight through it takes you an hour and 12 minutes. And I would try, I would do it once a week and every week I would try to beat my number of calories just by like holding just slightly higher paces on each interval on the 24 intervals at the back end there. I know I was able to do like 71 RPM, which was about 11.

Mattew Souza (07:05):

Oh wait, excuse me. You got 428 calories. 428.

Andrew Hiller (07:10):

Hey seven on you like that.

Sevan Matossian (07:12):

Pat. Patrick ner.

Andrew Hiller (07:14):

See, I don’t give, I don’t have a col Merton’s one, but this one wa zombie

Sevan Matossian (07:18):

Colton. <inaudible> that one. And then this one I had this one I had by my bed, but I brought it. I brought it over to uh, <laugh> show you guys on a show.

Mattew Souza (07:26):


Andrew Hiller (07:28):

Sam might just have that, but I also have this guy.

Sevan Matossian (07:31):

Oh yeah, yeah. Dude car. I cannot believe how, how nice. So there’s a Danielle, Brandon. There’s a Jason Hopper. There’s a Colton Mertons

Mattew Souza (07:41):

And nice.

Sevan Matossian (07:42):

And a Patrick ner. I cannot believe how nice these cards are.

Andrew Hiller (07:46):

So these guys may not have gotten t-shirts but they did get playing cards. So who’s the real winner.

Sevan Matossian (07:51):

Yeah. These, these things are crazy and these things are cheap. These are only, these are, you’ll be so happy when you have one of these. Uh it’s it’s only 10 bucks and it’s like, it’s like, it’s like, it feels good. It’s like, it doesn’t perform like an iPhone, but it sure feels like an iPhone.

Mattew Souza (08:07):

<laugh> you’re not wrong. You could take, take it to the games and, and see if you could get ’em signed.

Sevan Matossian (08:12):

Yeah. Oh, that would be dope.

Andrew Hiller (08:13):

What’s you guys’ connection with Pokemon cards? Nothing.

Sevan Matossian (08:17):

Zero. I don’t even really know what Pokemon is. I just know that you,

Andrew Hiller (08:20):

You mentioned it the other day. I did somewhere. You said Pokemon. Yeah. And I was like, gotta ask him what he, what

Sevan Matossian (08:26):

He knows. No, I just know that there was a, um, I think there were these little circle things, PS that people traded, there were baseball pods, but small,

Andrew Hiller (08:34):

The little damaged tokens.

Sevan Matossian (08:36):

And then there was a game where, uh, people put like, you could point your phone somewhere and it would show you like a Pokemon, like under a and then you’d go over and touch it. And then you could,

Andrew Hiller (08:47):

That was, that was a COVID game. Yeah. They got everyone outside, away from one another.

Mattew Souza (08:52):

Had kids walking out into the freeway.

Sevan Matossian (08:54):

I think that game would be so much cooler. If it was like, you were like looking for games, athletes or hot chicks or

Andrew Hiller (09:00):

That’s called Tinder

Sevan Matossian (09:01):

Seven or body builders. <laugh> I

Andrew Hiller (09:05):

Dunno. You ever use Tinder seven on

Sevan Matossian (09:07):

No, I’ve never even seen the app to be honest with you. I don’t even like, I just, I have this, um, vision in my head of what it looks like the we had, when I was a kid we had, or not a kid when I was 40, we had a hot or not, there was like an app, but it wasn’t on your phone. It was on a computer and you would just swipe right or left hot or not. But you didn’t date the people

Andrew Hiller (09:26):

Facebook or random people. Facebook.

Sevan Matossian (09:28):

Yeah. Just no, you know what it was. I think Zuckerberg made that too. It was just pictures that were pulled off of, uh, yearbooks or something. Yeah. Or you could, maybe people even could, could submit their pictures. I don’t remember.

Andrew Hiller (09:40):

Tinder’s right. Your it’s not you using it. But you talking about it is Tinder is kind of your, your wheelhouse you’ve been going on your only fans, rans.

Sevan Matossian (09:48):

It’s like Tinder, only fans and grinder. I should talk about grinder more.

Andrew Hiller (09:53):

You should create a, a fake account and make a little video series off your fake Tinder grinder accounts. Yeah. See which one you do better on just not share the screen. Let’s just not share the screen. Yeah. Don’t don’t do that.

Sevan Matossian (10:05):

3, 3, 3 of uh, three of my acquaintances. Uh, I could even call them friends have now been taking testosterone, testosterone replacement therapy, uh, through California hormones, basically what they did. Um, they, if you live in California, you get the free blood test. You get the free doctor’s consultation and they either tell you, Hey, you don’t need testosterone. Or they say, Hey, you should take some. Or maybe you wanna take some and all three of ’em tell me that it’s fucking, it’s the greatest head trip that they’ve ever had.

Andrew Hiller (10:33):

Why’s that?

Sevan Matossian (10:34):

They just said that they wake up in the morning. They want to attack life. They didn’t even expect it. That’s not even why they were taking it. They were taking it like just for energy and vitality. And I, and but they all talk about the head trip. Like man, this, I haven’t spoke to Mark Bell about it the other day. And he was like, he’s not doing it through these guys, but I was asking him about the head trip. And he’s like, dude, the head trip’s amazing. Yeah. You wake up every morning. Just want to attack life. I feel like I wake up. Well, I feel like every morning I wake up and just wanna attack the coffee machine.

Andrew Hiller (11:06):

<laugh> paper, free coffee. Yeah. At least you have to use

Sevan Matossian (11:09):

The code Seon by the way, to get that free stuff, you have to use the word code, the code Seon. So you take, you go to CA hormones.com type in seven, and then you can start the process and you don’t have to take the, the, the, the, whatever they prescribe. You can just get the blood work and talk to the doctor.

Andrew Hiller (11:26):

Oh, that’d be neat. Free consultation in your Audi.

Sevan Matossian (11:30):

So I plug them, I plug the, the cards. Oh, the echo bike. If you wanna win a rogue echo bike.

Andrew Hiller (11:39):

I thought it was an salt bike.

Sevan Matossian (11:41):

No, it’s a rogue echo bike.

Andrew Hiller (11:43):

All right. We’re changing

Sevan Matossian (11:44):

It. Thank you, rogue. Uh, Gabe at, at paper street, coffee and, and fuck. I don’t know how you find that website. He didn’t get the good one. He got like Papert or something. Uh, if, if you wear any Sev on podcast shirt on Sunday at the games and take a picture of yourself and tag us, there’s a chance you’re gonna win that bike. A good chance.

Andrew Hiller (12:05):

Do if you go to the booth,

Sevan Matossian (12:07):

No. Uh, I don’t know. I don’t think so. Is that part of

Andrew Hiller (12:09):

The equation or? No?

Sevan Matossian (12:10):

Well, we got some booth I’m telling you. I don’t think you wanna miss out at the booth. I think you wanna go to the booth to get your Hiller Hiller, Hiller fit and seven. Oh, there we GOs on. Join us in Madison where we’ll be sampling coffee testing, like lake water and listening to the best podcast out there. Oh, that’s dope. Mm-hmm

Mattew Souza (12:28):

<affirmative> Gabe’s a man, but yeah, you could get your t-shirt too at the, uh, paper street, coffee booth. So you could come down and see there. We’ll have a bunch of cool stuff down

Sevan Matossian (12:39):

There. I want one of those tank tops. Let me see those tank tops. I’m gonna shave that. If I get one of those, I’m gonna shave the tough hair on my, on my triceps. Those are dope.

Andrew Hiller (12:50):

Uh, Trev has came out with a very, very cool shirt. I don’t, I don’t know if I, I don’t know if I can pop it up on here and I have no way of doing that, but it’s awesome.

Sevan Matossian (12:59):

Soon. Can, is it on the vindicate? Is it on the vindicate website?

Andrew Hiller (13:02):

No, but I’ll send it. You guys’ way you guys are gonna be so jealous. I don’t know if it wants me to ruin it.

Sevan Matossian (13:07):

Let’s see.

Andrew Hiller (13:08):

It’s gonna be awesome here. I’m sending it over you guys way. It’ll pop up at some point.

Sevan Matossian (13:12):

It’s not for sale yet.

Andrew Hiller (13:15):

Um, no, I’m not. I, depending on how people react, we may or may not be putting it up for sale, but I think it’s awesome.

Mattew Souza (13:21):


Andrew Hiller (13:22):

You guys both have it. Did you see

Sevan Matossian (13:24):

It? Wow. Wow. Holy shit.

Andrew Hiller (13:29):

Isn’t that good?

Sevan Matossian (13:31):

Holy shit.

Mattew Souza (13:33):

Gosh. That’s awesome.

Andrew Hiller (13:36):

The anticipation is killing everybody. I’m sure. I like the lake water don’t wanna lot. This is not par with the lake water one. Throw it up there. If you have the, the

Mattew Souza (13:43):


Sevan Matossian (13:45):

Have, have they, have they, have they made that yet?

Andrew Hiller (13:49):


Sevan Matossian (13:51):

Um, there might be a, a thing there to do, like make the 16, like G just take off to 15 and call it GW 16. Since this is the 16th CrossFit games with like a RO Roman numeral GW, Roman numeral 16. I don’t know. That’s an incredible shirt

Andrew Hiller (14:07):

Then it says go for it. Show away.

Sevan Matossian (14:10):


Andrew Hiller (14:10):

Wow. For take off.

Mattew Souza (14:14):

Yes. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (14:19):

Good word, Travis. Awesome. So it’s, it’s gonna be in the leader Jersey. So it’s gonna be in the red. It’s gonna look just like the other leader Jersey makes,

Mattew Souza (14:26):

Oh my gosh. It’s

Andrew Hiller (14:26):

It’s sweet.

Sevan Matossian (14:28):

Hey, you know what that is, dude. You need to send one of those to Ryan Jing because that will like desensitize. Then it won’t be offended by that word anymore. It’ll kind of, you know what I mean? Like desensitivity, it’s like, um, some sort of like psychological training for him.

Mattew Souza (14:41):

It’s a therapy.

Andrew Hiller (14:43):

It, this is, uh, Travis’s best work. It’s right up there. <laugh> this is better than the no rep shirt.

Sevan Matossian (14:49):


Mattew Souza (14:50):


Andrew Hiller (14:51):

Thank you, KA.

Sevan Matossian (14:52):

Hey, uh, I’m getting ahead of myself, but is, is, is Carter. I thought I heard in that podcast where critters Bowler’s talking that he uses, he says carting and durable are the same thing.

Andrew Hiller (15:05):

They are the same thing.

Sevan Matossian (15:07):

Wow. Why would

Andrew Hiller (15:08):

GW 5, 0 1 5, 6 is the same as those two things you just mentioned.

Sevan Matossian (15:12):

Oh, okay. Why would we ever use the GW 1, 5 16 or, um, or carting? We can call it

Andrew Hiller (15:18):


Sevan Matossian (15:19):

And durable. Sounds so hard. I would so much rather be caught for end durable than carting.

Andrew Hiller (15:25):

Probably why it’s even got the name because I don’t know. That drives me nuts in durable. It’s like, what does this do? Endur endurance end durable.

Sevan Matossian (15:34):

<laugh> I just hear the word ball and I just think, oh, I’m I’m just getting stronger. Isn’t that? What all ball? The ones that make you stronger, the like Adro ball durable, dude. I’m on this crazy cocktail of wind straw and durable your mom’s balls. Just fucking your daddy’s balls.

Andrew Hiller (15:52):

The one you takes out on is trend. You take trend alone and end dur ball.

Sevan Matossian (15:56):

Is that the one that gets me shredded?

Andrew Hiller (15:58):

That’s the one that turns you into a one of those cows that has too much muscle on em

Sevan Matossian (16:03):

Trend. What’s the one that just gets me all just shredded.

Andrew Hiller (16:06):

That would do it. It makes you lose fat game muscle people wouldn’t recognize you. You probably lose all your hair, but you, you would be something else.

Sevan Matossian (16:14):

I’ll take it. I’ll take it.

Andrew Hiller (16:16):

I’ll take it. I don’t need this hair. Oh, like Craig white said something here. It should take Carter like a, like one of the athletes names, Carter athletes names with the, uh, see doesn’t this, this is a trend cow

Sevan Matossian (16:29):

Seon. Here’s the word ball on his mouth waters. Hey, so that cow is juiced up. That’s not normal.

Andrew Hiller (16:34):

It don’t, that’s not normal cow. No. Look at the, look at the glutes on the cow too, to the right. That could be,

Sevan Matossian (16:39):

I can only see it’s balls. I, I can’t see anything else. Look,

Andrew Hiller (16:43):

Crush the assault bike with those bad boys.

Sevan Matossian (16:45):

That’s Dan Bailey. If he was a cow,

Andrew Hiller (16:49):

We’re gonna name that cow. Dan Bailey

Sevan Matossian (16:51):

Or, or that chick car Caro.

Andrew Hiller (16:54):

<laugh> Caruso,

Sevan Matossian (16:56):


Andrew Hiller (16:58):

She made a post

Sevan Matossian (16:58):

The other day. We’re not talk about her when she, without asking. Sorry, what? Oh,

Andrew Hiller (17:03):

I think she made a post the other day after one of your shows where we were talking about her. Was she mad? Um, it didn’t seem that she she’s just like stopped talking about me. Keep my name or out shell mouth.

Sevan Matossian (17:15):

Yeah. I think that she has a rule about that. Um, wall street CrossFitter versus rich phoning. What a, what a great thing to clear rich phoning name. Uh, we had the wall street CrossFitter on the show before. Great story. But, uh, but he did not, he does not have a faster time then, uh, rich phoning. And you showed that and what a cool idea. You put old rich phoning. You put young, rich phoning, old rich phoning and wall street weightlifter, all working side by side, doing grace and old rich phoning. Smoked them all smoked them, correct? Grace at 2, 2 25. Well, that

Andrew Hiller (17:49):

Was 2014. Rich Fring who smoked tomorrow. Oh, that was Avocare sponsored. Rich Fring.

Sevan Matossian (17:56):

Yeah. Oh, when was the, when was the, when was the slower one? The 4 49, 1 20 11,

Andrew Hiller (18:02):

2011. Look at that baby face. This is, this is Isabel. This is his SWAT snatch, Isabel, which he does does in like five something low upper five lower sixes. Very cool as well. I remember watching that one. When it came out, it made me sign up for the open almost immediately.

Sevan Matossian (18:18):

Oh, that’s cool. Wow.

Andrew Hiller (18:20):

You see, you’ve seen that video, right?

Sevan Matossian (18:22):

Yeah. One which one? The Avocare one or that

Andrew Hiller (18:24):

One? Snatch one snatch squat snatch. Isabel at 2 25.

Sevan Matossian (18:27):

Yeah. I wonder who he

Andrew Hiller (18:28):

Does and they wanders over to his computer and then he signs it for the open 2014,

Sevan Matossian (18:32):

I think. Yeah. I wonder if that was, we sent Hebrew out there to make that or something.

Andrew Hiller (18:36):

I want to know if anybody and I’m sure there’s somebody out there, but I don’t know. That’s a fast time. Three 14 was his 30 cleaning jerks at 2 25. And we saw those cleaning jerks at 2 25 on that workout with the last chance qualifier this year. And I wonder if their paces would match or beat phoning 30 for time there.

Sevan Matossian (18:56):

I wonder if no one

Andrew Hiller (18:57):


Sevan Matossian (18:58):

Huh? No one’s spoken up. No one has spoken up, right.

Andrew Hiller (19:01):


Sevan Matossian (19:01):

Since you

Andrew Hiller (19:02):

Showed up, I’m curious. I guess, I guess I really haven’t addressed that too closely, but so this, you

Sevan Matossian (19:07):


Andrew Hiller (19:08):


Sevan Matossian (19:09):

You did greats at 300.

Andrew Hiller (19:11):

I did. That was terrible. <laugh> I, I, I believe I was right about 19 minutes. That was one of my first videos that I tried to edit

Sevan Matossian (19:19):

Like injury. Terrible.

Andrew Hiller (19:22):

<laugh> um, no, like

Sevan Matossian (19:23):

Not smart, terrible.

Andrew Hiller (19:26):

Like I have a hard time at repeatable heavy weights and something about a 300 pound cleaning. Jerk is not easy on me for whatever reason. And then you go watch people like Jeff, add just Chuck it around and it doesn’t seem to phase him. I’m the exact opposite. I’m very phased by that weight on a barbell. <laugh> my heart rate goes immediately to 180 and just sits there until I stop.

Sevan Matossian (19:46):

Do you squat clean it

Andrew Hiller (19:48):

They’re all hour cleans

Sevan Matossian (19:50):

300 pound power clean. That is nuts.

Andrew Hiller (19:53):

Yeah. Power clean.

Mattew Souza (19:56):

Be stoked for one.

Andrew Hiller (19:57):

I did that a couple weeks after I did the 200 ring muscle ups and then I wanted to do 50 deadlifts at 500 for time. And then I kind of just stopped 50

Mattew Souza (20:07):

Deadlifts at 500.

Andrew Hiller (20:09):

There’s a couple people who have done it, but that was, I, I have these spots that I’m pretty proficient at things. It’s muscle ups and it’s deadlifts. So I wanted to try to do that. I did the, the unbroken chest of bars. I don’t know anybody. Who’s done more than 90 of those, but I’ve done 90 Chester bars. I don’t see you

Mattew Souza (20:25):

Video of that. Do you have

Andrew Hiller (20:27):

It’s on my YouTube somewhere?

Mattew Souza (20:29):


Andrew Hiller (20:30):


Sevan Matossian (20:31):


Mattew Souza (20:32):

So you were like serious. You were like, you could have been a real contender.

Sevan Matossian (20:36):

Wait, you did. If

Andrew Hiller (20:37):

It was only pull

Sevan Matossian (20:38):

Up GRA at <laugh> you did grace at 300, you did 50 deadlifts not touch and go, but 50 deadlifts at 500.

Andrew Hiller (20:46):

No, that was one that I was getting ready to do and I never did it. And then I hurt my elbow and I was unable to straighten it. It was right around that time. Um <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (20:56):

Have you ever gotten ready to do Alexis and you didn’t do her

Andrew Hiller (21:00):

Once or twice? So within the past week or two, actually. Yeah, it’s been, <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (21:05):

Like, you’re just getting ready and you’re like, sorry, gotta go back to my computer. I just thought of a new edit

Andrew Hiller (21:09):

The video. Exactly. That that’s usual. I

Sevan Matossian (21:12):

Know how

Andrew Hiller (21:12):

It works. I’m getting to go to sleep. You

Sevan Matossian (21:13):

Guys. Yeah. You think I’m joking, but I know how it works.

Andrew Hiller (21:17):

Speaking of which I looked at your upcoming schedule. Yeah. That’s gonna be hard to, uh, top

Sevan Matossian (21:23):

Savage. It’s

Andrew Hiller (21:24):

Still, it’s still, it’s an awesome schedule. It’s still being added too,

Sevan Matossian (21:28):

Right? Hey, you know what? To be honest, it looks so awesome because the way will Branstetter designed it, like it like just on a fucking calendar with fucking SU’s chicken scratch. It just looks like we got work to do then fucking will Branstetter does it. And it looks like we won the lotto. It looks so

Andrew Hiller (21:42):

Pretty good. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (21:46):

Matt presented to me on the calendar and I fucking have to lock my gun. Don’t fucking blow my brains out. We’ll put it out. And I’m like, yeah, this is dope.

Andrew Hiller (21:54):

<laugh> you’ve got a lot of big names on there and I see you edit Adrian Bosman.

Sevan Matossian (21:57):

Yeah. Mr. Bosman

Andrew Hiller (21:59):

Excited. I’m excited for you to go with Adrian.

Sevan Matossian (22:02):

I’m basically, I’m gonna try to like just court the shit outta him and like make sweet love to ’em and unfuck all the gnarly shit I’ve talked in the last year with you. And that way he’ll come on the show during the games. I’d like to get him on, like I had Dave on yeah. At every night, but it’s gonna take, I’m gonna have to like give him a handy without him knowing it. So

Andrew Hiller (22:22):

Did, did you hear, uh, him on coffee, pods and wads with Peter

Sevan Matossian (22:25):


Andrew Hiller (22:26):

Yes. Is it’s a great, great

Sevan Matossian (22:29):

Episode. Hey, uh, so, so we’re getting ahead of ourselves. I really wanted to go down my list today and like check everything off, but I wanna tell you something.

Andrew Hiller (22:36):

I got going, I got my own list, just so you know.

Sevan Matossian (22:39):

Okay. Oh

Andrew Hiller (22:39):

Shit. But it’s your show. It’s your list

Sevan Matossian (22:43):


Andrew Hiller (22:44):


Sevan Matossian (22:46):

So I, I have no, I have no, I have no shyness in, in and no, um, humility around the fact of, of what I think of my skills as a media director. I, as arguably as the chief marketing officer, however you want, but we didn’t use the word marketing at CrossFit. I grew that company faster than anyone’s ever grown any company. Now, maybe I have people, peers that are my equal, but it, when I got there, there were less than 300 gyms. And when I left, there were 15,000 gyms. I was the second employee in the media department and I left with a hundred people working for me. I don’t care what anyone says. And, and I don’t care what anyone says about anyone working harder than me. I was the hardest working person in the company. I’m willing to let there be a, a seven way tie, but you see what I do on this podcast? And I’m not making Dick well, imagine being richest shit and working. And like I worked every day. I never took a day of vacation in 300 in, uh, the 15 years I was there cuz it was my life. I’m not complaining. And if I wanted, as the, as the greatest media director who ever lived on the planet, if I wanted to fuck someone, I would treat them the way the media department traits treats the CrossFit games podcast that I would bear. That thing is so fucking buried. I cannot fuck

Andrew Hiller (24:02):


Sevan Matossian (24:02):

There’s I would never need, if I was asked to go on that podcast, I would never go on that podcast because it’s purposely being hidden.

Mattew Souza (24:09):

Yeah. It’s intent.

Sevan Matossian (24:10):

It has to be that, that like who, whoever is in charge. I don’t know if it’s chase who’s in charge. Chase decides where it goes. If it’s chase who’s in charge, chase hates himself. He might as well just <laugh> his wife should call fucking like what Alan on or whoever suicide prevention group or something something’s wrong. Somebody hates those people. It’s a waste of time, money and resources. You know what else I realized, um, me and you put out more media than that entire than, than me and you individually put out more media than all than those teams. We’re we’re in complete control of the narrative now

Mattew Souza (24:48):

Mm-hmm <affirmative>

Andrew Hiller (24:49):

I, I would say we’re

Sevan Matossian (24:51):

Doing someone could set chase free. Someone needs to fucking put, push those podcasts up to the front. They need to chase

Andrew Hiller (24:57):

Got a new role. Did you see that regional advisor for the Texas?

Mattew Souza (25:03):

Yes. Yes. Yes. That, that

Andrew Hiller (25:04):

Was pretty cool. So maybe, maybe he’s being set free to some extent.

Sevan Matossian (25:07):

Well, he doesn’t need to be set free like that. He needs to be challenged to, and that those podcasts need to be promoted. He had fucking Adrian Bosman on. Yeah, dude, dude, that podcast had 40 fucking views. I think you showed no, Jr showed me that it had 41 fucking views in the information in there is fucking gold for, for, for anyone. Anyone who’s interested in the games it’s gold. And Adrian’s like on another level right now and that coffee, wads and pods. I mean, I, I, uh, Pete, Peter, I would never ask Adrian those questions. Peter asked cuz cuz I’m too scared. I I’ve I’m friends with him. I’ve said this before, but Peter fucking killed it. There’s some insane content out there. I mean, someone just could be just pouring reels off of that shit.

Mattew Souza (25:51):

It’s like it’s they started that. Sub-channel for it just, it almost seems like to purposely hide it because you have this channel with millions of subscribers. So why in the world would you start a smaller channel? Put no nothing onto it. No don’t point nothing towards it. Put all

Andrew Hiller (26:06):

Those. What’s the smaller channel

Mattew Souza (26:07):

On there. It’s

Sevan Matossian (26:08):

Called. Yeah. Just try to find it. Don’t even tell him we had Jr and, and Taylor on the show and I was like, Hey, why, why don’t we pull up the video? They’re like, there is none.

Mattew Souza (26:16):

Yeah. Then it took me like five minutes to fight it. There was a whole debate

Andrew Hiller (26:20):

Page called

Mattew Souza (26:21):

No, no

Andrew Hiller (26:21):

It podcast.

Mattew Souza (26:22):

No, it’s not Instagram.

Sevan Matossian (26:23):

No, there should be that too. There should be a CrossFit games. Podcast channel.

Andrew Hiller (26:27):

You’re talking about the separate podcast in the apple store.

Sevan Matossian (26:29):

Yeah. Yes. Not even in the apple store. Go to try to find it on YouTube. Yeah. Chase has done like 60 episodes.

Mattew Souza (26:36):

It’s a waste of Chase’s talents. Like he does such a great job with it. I’m sure he puts a ton into it. Like he does everything.

Andrew Hiller (26:41):

When you look up, you got the one that we know this guy, this red one. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

Yeah. That’s the you

Andrew Hiller (26:46):

Used to do. That’s the one. And then this is the one where you can listen to it, right? Yes.

Sevan Matossian (26:50):

I can’t

Andrew Hiller (26:51):

See shit on there.

Sevan Matossian (26:52):

Yes. If you do that through Spotify, but I’m just saying if you’re on YouTube, if you go to, if you go to their, like the way I look for it is I went to their YouTube channel. Right. And it, and it’s it’s. Yeah. Oh, and that’s another thing on that podcast. I I think was Justin on there. Oh, okay. We’re gonna get to this. They talk about that hopper thing. I still don’t know what the hopper thing is. But if this email is so important to talk about it on a podcast, that’s purposely hidden. <laugh> I mean it okay. Uh, Hey, so Andrew, I think that you can flip that writing around in post. Are you using Adobe premier

Andrew Hiller (27:30):

Where right now? See?

Sevan Matossian (27:31):

Yeah. See, see how, like it says, see how it says Hiller behind you. When you make your videos, are you using, um, uh, Adobe?

Andrew Hiller (27:39):

I have it set up. No, I use, uh, final cut.

Sevan Matossian (27:42):

Okay. There’s a

Andrew Hiller (27:43):


Sevan Matossian (27:44):

Not insane, but there’s a filter called, um, flip. And you can put it onto your finished product and it’ll turn all your shit around.

Andrew Hiller (27:51):

When I make the videos, I stare at myself and I scream at myself and if I stare at myself inverted, it drives me nuts. I can’t do it.

Sevan Matossian (27:59):

You can do it out. You can do it in post.

Andrew Hiller (28:01):

Okay. I’ll do it in post the commander, if

Sevan Matossian (28:04):

You want, if you want, if you want, I’m not, I’m not telling the director has spoken. I’m just, I’m telling you. I don’t I’m I’m not 1500

Andrew Hiller (28:09):

Affiliates, 15,000 affiliates. When I left, you have to

Mattew Souza (28:12):

Listen. Like it’s fine. You need to take my advice. Videos could suck. It’s up to you

Sevan Matossian (28:16):

At the end of the day.

Andrew Hiller (28:17):

I don’t people

Sevan Matossian (28:19):

At the end of the day, I don’t care. Who did grace faster? I just care that about the video where rich did it with his shirt off. So that’s that weighed on that?

Andrew Hiller (28:26):

How do you feel about him doing it on that stage in front of everybody? That, that, that EDRA hair thing.

Sevan Matossian (28:32):

I hope he, I hope it, it made rich, rich.

Andrew Hiller (28:35):

Ooh. Did you see that ever or no?

Mattew Souza (28:38):

No. You go on

Sevan Matossian (28:39):

A, I had seen that. I think it’s in, I think it’s on a stage in the middle of a stadium too. It’s not like in a stage in front of people. It’s like in a stage and it’s like, I think there’s like a ridiculous amount of people there.

Andrew Hiller (28:51):

Do you have an opinion on ed care?

Sevan Matossian (28:53):

No, I don’t.

Andrew Hiller (28:55):

Do you have on like, or any of those, like, uh, Herbalife, any of those companies? Um,

Mattew Souza (29:02):

Multilevel marketing type companies

Andrew Hiller (29:05):

And that’s exactly as EpicCare is isn’t it,

Mattew Souza (29:08):

I’m not familiar with a care, but I know like Herbalife and she,

Sevan Matossian (29:10):

Yeah. Based. I don’t, I don’t, I don’t know why people are, are you down on that? Why do people I’m not down on it?

Andrew Hiller (29:16):

I’m not down. Someone

Sevan Matossian (29:17):

Wants to sell vitamins. Like if I wanna sell vitamins to you and then you wanna sell ’em to Susan, then Susan wants to sell ’em to his members. And that money trickles up towards me. Cool. I personally wouldn’t, I’m not into that, but if someone wants to do that, I’m okay with

Andrew Hiller (29:28):

It. When I was in high school and I was just,

Sevan Matossian (29:31):

That’s how the that’s how Pfizer works. That’s how the vaccine works.

Andrew Hiller (29:35):

Of course it is. I knew it that I was,

Mattew Souza (29:37):

I was your

Andrew Hiller (29:39):

ING. You

Sevan Matossian (29:40):

And totally that’s totally how it works. So I mean, and, and look how well they did. I that’s exactly how that works. Global crushed it. And you telling me how are those two paralleled? That shit, that shit is made, that shit is made, um, by a company then sold to the government and then the government gets, sells it to the hospitals and then the hospitals sell it to us. I mean, it’s, I don’t know if those are the exact people.

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