#494 – Matt Beaudreau

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Hey, I’m good.

Matt Beaudreau (00:04):

I got the shirt on for you.

Sevan Matossian (00:06):

It’s so cool. I watched it with your, uh, your interview last night with, uh, what’s the gentleman’s name? He owns the supplement company, the young kid who’s having the baby B uh, Nick bear. Nick.

Matt Beaudreau (00:16):

Yeah. Nick bear. Yeah, he just, uh, they just had the baby man, like two days ago, something like that. So I made sure I send him a message. What a good, good young guy. What a stud man.

Sevan Matossian (00:25):

Yeah. How old is that, dude?

Matt Beaudreau (00:27):

I think he’s 30, like 31.

Sevan Matossian (00:30):

Yeah, it was it’s a, um, that was that, that interview. That really, that interview really tripped me out in a way that I didn’t, um, expect you, you, uh, it, it, it forced me to like, uh, reflect on myself a lot on my age a lot

Matt Beaudreau (00:51):

And what oh, okay. Why? Because

Sevan Matossian (00:54):

He’s so young and so successful. He’s so say it again, say it again.

Matt Beaudreau (00:59):

I was gonna say, is it because of the parents suffer or because he’s a stud and he’s 31 and he’s already crushing it.

Sevan Matossian (01:04):

Yeah. There’s a, a combination of, um, so you, you ki, you know, you want your life experiences to help you move forward, but you don’t want them to Jade you, right. So you meet 10 dishonest people, but you don’t that 11th person you meet. And we all know those people that like, my, my, like my dad can’t stand, uh, real estate agents and lawyers and just anyone who makes money, um, off of their, um, what’s that called? Uh, like their sales, right? Don’t trust a lawyer. He wants it to go to court so he can charge more money. So he can do this. Don’t trust the real estate agent. He is gonna tell you, you love the house. Like my dad has jaded like that. Right. I don’t ever wanna have that. Every real estate agent I meet. I wanna just treat them like a human being. Yeah, for sure. But, but this guy has some, uh, genuine, uh, naive is gonna come across negative, cuz it’s not naive. Um, he’s a super powerful seedling. He, he like, um, there’s some weak seedlings out there. The seedling for the sunflower plant is not a weak seedling before the flower comes out. That’s a fucking plant. Yeah.

Matt Beaudreau (02:12):

That’s a monster. No, you know what he is? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (02:13):

That guy’s already a monster and he hasn’t even flowered yet. He’s still like a little kid, but he is already a monster. I’m like, what?

Matt Beaudreau (02:19):

Yes. He’s already a monster. You know what its for him, man, before, before that I sat talked with him. It is a genuine, uh, curiosity. Right. Okay. It’s a curiosity. It’s a curiosity. And it’s a, it’s a kind of a wonder around the world. You know, he, he, uh, he just looks at everything of like, oh man, this is going to be, I’m so curious of what this is gonna be like. And I, I know it’s gonna be amazing, but I’m so curious in what ways that comes into fruition, you know, he was looking at his company and kind of like what’s what are the next stages of my company? And he was like genuinely curious and kind of wondering like, man, I’m sure it’s gonna be amazing, but what do I do with it? Like what is the next day he was looking at that from, in terms of his marriage, in terms of his, you know, becoming a father. Um, he just had that genuine curiosity about him, man, and, and uh, yeah, just such a good guy. So smart. So accomplished a physical fricking, just a Savage. You know,

Sevan Matossian (03:12):

I, I started following him, um, uh, after I watched it and yeah, this morning he woke up or I don’t know when he, when he actually did it, but the post was, he woke up and ran 20 miles. <laugh> I’m like, oh God.

Matt Beaudreau (03:24):

And he’s huge dude. And he’s a priest, you know? I mean, not, I mean, he’s a, the dude’s got size on him too. He’s strong as an ox. Right. So, and he is out there running, so he’s breaking a bunch of stereotypes that way too. So yeah, it was, it was cool, man. I was glad I was out there. It worked out perfect. I was out in Texas to do some things and worked out perfect and was honored to be able to go by and chat with him. So yeah. Nick bearer, man, he’s a stud. So if people don’t know about him, they should people, man. It’s, I’m always pumped to talk to you.

Sevan Matossian (03:50):

It’s thank you. Uh Boudro

Matt Beaudreau (03:55):


Sevan Matossian (03:56):

Yeah. How do you say it? How do you say it? I know we talked about it in the last podcast.

Matt Beaudreau (03:59):

Yeah. We California it up. So I always grew up saying Boro, but if

Sevan Matossian (04:03):

Bore. Okay.

Matt Beaudreau (04:05):

So like I said, whenever, whenever I speak outta country, if they speak French there, they say it way cooler. And I just anybody’s even close, man. I just, no, my head,

Sevan Matossian (04:13):

I, I wanna, uh, I wanna sh well, first, first those of you haven’t heard before, um, I’ve had Matt on the show before you should go back and listen to it in summation. And this is just the, the, the quick and dirty, uh, Matt lived a, a very full life, um, as a young man, um, searching for himself and putting himself in, um, ways that would allow him to find himself through one of my favorite sports, um, MMA. And he was always an entrepreneur and a go-getter and he had the, um, honor, uh, and, and deserved. He, I dunno if this is the word deserved to, uh, I was, um, to get around a lot of strong, powerful, uh, go-geters also a lot of celebrity fighters. And then, um, he, uh, reincarnated himself as a, um, as a, as a, as a man of service.

Sevan Matossian (05:03):

And it’s interesting. I think a lot of people, you know, some people wanna be friends with, um, like, it’d be cool to be friends with Kim Kardashian, cuz she’s so hot. And she goes to rap parties and she got like great big old titties and Kanye looks like he’d be fun to meet. And just like, it would be interesting. And it would be cool to be friends with, um, you know, maybe LeBron so that like you could get court side seats, the people who wanna be friends with Matt, wanna be friends with Matt because of what he’s giving to planet earth and what he’s giving to children. Thanks man, that you won’t, you won’t know a lot of people like that. You, you

Matt Beaudreau (05:40):

Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (05:41):

You wanna be friends with this dude because you wanna support what he’s doing. You’re not even if you love Kim, you’re not really interested in like supporting what she’s doing or even if you love LeBron, you’re not interested in supporting what they’re doing. The people who get behind Matt wanna stand behind him and push him. They want to give to him.

Matt Beaudreau (05:56):

I appreciate that.

Sevan Matossian (05:57):

Like if I go to Kim’s house, I want to take from her. I want, I wanna take some pictures of her. I wanna like hug her and squeeze her inappropriately tight. LeBron, I wanna like put on his shoes and like touch his hands and see how small my hands are. I don’t wanna do that to Matt. I don’t wanna take anything from him. I want, I wanna, I wanna participate. He’s a, he’s a, um, a pond that you throw a penny in and make a wish and you make the wish for him. Not for you. I mean, you are a fucking good human being.

Matt Beaudreau (06:22):

Um, dude, I, I, I don’t have as much to give as those other guys in those different ways. So if people wanna give this way and come this direction, it’s, it’s, you know, they usually are relating to the mission they’re relating to

Sevan Matossian (06:34):

The mission.

Matt Beaudreau (06:35):

You know, it’s the mission of, of, of building up these strong young kids, you know? So it’s um, so I get to automatically partner with amazing people. You know, people like yourself who understand the mission, who are living that with your own, you know, maybe not building schools. So you’re raising three human beings like that is, yeah, that is a mission. And you’re, and you’re intentional about the way you do that, you know? And um, I just know far too many people that are doing that. So I mean, I think the same, same kind of things could be said to you. And I think anybody I get to partner with. Yeah. That’s, that’s a mission and what’s so cool, man, is that, um, there are so many good people that are on board with this. There really, I mean, it’s the, we’re in the age of division, you know, we’re in the age of everybody find the enemy and man, I get wrapped up into it too, cuz I’m like, fuck this and this system. And I’m, I get very much wrapped in that, into that too. But um, I always try to reign myself back in and go look, man, I gotta finite that amount of energy and I can either be pissed about this or I can build something better over here and whether that’s building my kids, my family, my schools, my programs, my, whatever it is to, to pour into these young guys, you know, I gotta try to redirect that, but there’s a lot of good people involved in that mission, man,

Sevan Matossian (07:42):

When I, if I looked at your taxes, how are, are your business portfolio? How many schools do you own?

Matt Beaudreau (07:51):

Yeah. So are you

Sevan Matossian (07:52):

Resp are you responsible for,

Matt Beaudreau (07:54):

So yeah, those are, so those are two different questions. So I was okay. Yeah. So I was the, the physical owner of three, um, that I have since transferred license to, uh, the employees and a, and a former business partner.

Sevan Matossian (08:11):

I am. Okay. So when I talked to you last time you had three schools K through 12, these acting academies,

Matt Beaudreau (08:16):

Right. I’ve specifically own. Exactly. Yeah. What I’ve done is taken on a role of responsibility for about 300. Um, and so

Sevan Matossian (08:27):

Does that have a title? Can you gimme a title for that?

Matt Beaudreau (08:30):

Not really. Um, I mean kinda, you know, I mean really no, cuz it’s more out of, it’s more outta service. It’s more of like a, a chief, you know, evangelist, recruiter, whatever you want to call it. So I help you know, about 300 owners around the world, uh, running their specific schools in this network. And then I spend my days, a lot of my days talking to I’ll talk to four or five people a day around world who are interested in doing the same thing for their communities, interested in doing the same thing for their kids. And um, you know, we’ll, we’ll jump on a zoom call for an hour and just go, okay man, here’s what you gotta do. Here’s how it starts. Here’s how you do it effectively. Here’s how you create, you know, sustainability. Here’s how you, uh, really trying to help as many good people as I can, again, get on board with the mission, right.

Matt Beaudreau (09:14):

If we can get more and more of these, then we can start to actually shift all those things that I want to tend to be like, okay, school clearly there’s issues and there’s agendas and yes, all this stuff. And I want to point that out cuz I want people to see it, but I wanna spend more time going and solution looks like this right solutions over here. And if I can get more and more people over here, it was just like the CrossFit explosion, right? It’s like, look, here’s a solution. Here’s something else right here. And if we can create a whole bunch of people, dude getting behind this and blowing this up, well then everybody over here has to at least notice like how to at least say it. Right. So we’re doing the same thing. So that’s what I spend my days. Um, I spend my days doing that and, and then running the other programs that I get to run for young people outside of just schools.

Sevan Matossian (09:58):

Uh, and one of those would be like the a Apigee program.

Matt Beaudreau (10:01):

Yep, exactly. A Apigee

Sevan Matossian (10:03):

Separate, separate from Acton. That’s separate from Acton academy.

Matt Beaudreau (10:06):

It is. Yeah. So Tim, um, most people listen and will know Tim Kennedy more than they’ll know who I am for good, for good reason. And um, you know, Tim, Tim and I are, are friends and partners on this and we were, uh, he, he beat my ass in a, in a, uh, in a workout about a year and a half ago we were working out in Texas and he just crushed me, uh, and, and had a couple of his buddies there and just a bunch of savages. Um, and then we got done, we went over to a coffee shop and we were hanging out and we were talking through what this could look like. So we kind of went two directions. One, I helped him open, uh, the school, the physical campus that he now has out there in, in Cedar park, Texas. And then the other part was, uh, the development of aji strong, which is, uh, good men pouring into young men. And it’s, it’s a year long program for young guys. So we got young men, you know, like 13 to 19, 20 years old, uh, all, all over the world involved in this program. And it’s, it’s freaking awesome.

Sevan Matossian (11:01):

These 300 schools, do they all fall under the Acton academy flag? They’re Acton academies.

Matt Beaudreau (11:08):

Yes they’re.

Sevan Matossian (11:08):

And you said around the world, there’s some outside the United States,

Matt Beaudreau (11:12):

26 countries now, man.

Sevan Matossian (11:13):

Wow, dude. Congratulations.

Matt Beaudreau (11:15):

Yeah. It’s awesome. Thanks man. We’re in 41, 41 states I think. And, and 26 countries I’d have to go back and double check, but I think that’s right about where it’s at. So yeah, it’s, it’s pretty, it’s pretty freaking cool.

Sevan Matossian (11:28):

The, um, the method in which you, and, and I’m purposely not using the word curriculum, because we talked about that, uh, last show, the method in which you, Hmm. You may have to help me here

Matt Beaudreau (11:46):


Sevan Matossian (11:46):

This is the first 500. Oh yeah. Yeah. Good engage. The 500 shows. I’ve never been at a loss for words. Uh, the method in which you engage with children, is there a book that I could read and it’ll be like, oh yes, that’s a Rudolph Steiner’s way of engaging with kids or is there, what’s the principal, how you engage with the kids?

Matt Beaudreau (12:06):

Yeah. Stein. I mean, so the, the,

Sevan Matossian (12:08):

I guess, made that up, that guy, because I know he has the Wal Waldorf schools, right. So yeah.

Matt Beaudreau (12:12):

Signer was RA Seiner is rad and there’s there Waldorf elements, you know, uh, you could read a as Neil’s, uh, summer hill, right. You could read, uh, Peter Gray’s. Um, uh, gosh, what is Peter Gray’s free to learn? Um, is phenomenal. Anything by John Taylor Gato, G a T T O is phenomenal. Seth Godins stop stealing dreams.

Sevan Matossian (12:37):

Ah, I watched that last night. I watched the, um, his Ted talk last night after I heard you talk about it.

Matt Beaudreau (12:41):

Oh God, I love him, man. Seth is, is a freaking great dude. Um, you know, his books, all of those Maria Montessori, like all of those will give you a bit of insight, but there is a book called courage to grow that is really, uh, that dives, you know, deep kind of into our day to day ad act. And it is, it is act in specifics cuz there’s there’s elements of all of those, uh, pioneers that are, that are in the program. You know, we want, ultimately we want that, that freedom and that responsibility to be a hundred percent on the heroes. You know, we want it to be where the adults truly can be irrelevant, not have to be there at all and have those young heroes just rocking and rolling. Um, so courage to grow is the best book for it.

Sevan Matossian (13:28):

I’m looking on, uh, Amazon, uh, Laura sander,

Matt Beaudreau (13:31):


Sevan Matossian (13:35):

How acting academy turns Le uh, learning upside down.

Matt Beaudreau (13:38):

Yes, sir. That’s the one that’s the go-to book and it’s quick read, inspirational read. Um, never met anybody that said, oh, okay. Well that was, that was fine. Yeah. That’s the one man. It’s a, it’s it’s phenomenal.

Sevan Matossian (13:49):

Is this lady alive?

Matt Beaudreau (13:51):

Yes, she is. She and her husband. Jeff, um, are two of, and I, and I would say, you know, they’re two of my favorite people. Um, I would say Jeff is one of the, uh, greatest educators, pure DNA educator, um, to, to ever walk the face of the, of the planet. When we start talking about people like Gotto and you start talking about people like, you know, Steiner and Montessori and, um, you know, you start talking about some of these legends like that. Jeff is in Jeff is in that category.

Sevan Matossian (14:23):

What, what, what’s an educator,

Matt Beaudreau (14:26):

How would, so I always, I always differentiate between teachers and educators and, and I think, you know, people can learn to teach and you can learn to be, you can be a mentor. I think mentors are usually a master in a, in a certain area. I think of it like martial arts, right? And you can, you can be a master in a certain area and you can mentor somebody into that, um, specific level of, of mastery. Um, but I think teachers and a God bless teachers, man, I, I love good, good humans that are good. Teachers are important and I support ’em. I support ’em greatly. Um, but I, you know, just based on my own experience of becoming a, a teacher, especially in public schools, you can, you can pretty much train anybody to be a teacher, right? Cuz it’s more about following a system and you’re, you’re just parroting the prescription, you know, somewhat, I think an educator to me is, is a DNA thing.

Matt Beaudreau (15:14):

I don’t think you can teach anybody how to be an educator. I think it is, um, a combination of, uh, an inherent belief in humanity. I think you have to have that love a genuine love for humans. You know, you actually have to believe that they are, that they are an amazing species. That genius is the default setting. I think you have to truly believe that. Uh, and then you have to get your own ego out of the way in order to understand that your job, uh, and it it’s easier for an educator to do this. Your job is to open doors. Your job is to lift eyes to the horizon. Your job is to make yourself irrelevant as soon as you can and, and help this young genius, you know, on this kind of journey. And it sounds very esoteric and mumbo jumbo, but the way it really plays out is you believe in them, you expose ’em to an experience.

Matt Beaudreau (16:07):

You ask them their thoughts, their questions, you push back on that and allow them to think through things. And you’re not busy, you know, pounding your ideas into ’em. You’re busy, cultivating, uh, um, you know, an environment around them. So they’re gonna come to their own conclusions. And Jeff does that naturally. Uh, and, and masterfully, uh, I don’t know anybody that does, especially when you start talking about, you know, uh, taking like a Socratic conversation or, or the concept of, of Socratic where you’re asking, why, why, why? And, and he’s so good at going, would you rather, you know, choice a or choice B and he doesn’t let you choose in the middle as no choice a or choice B if you had to choose one. And then what do you mean by that? And he’s able to question you with such simplicity that your thoughts become inherently more complex and that’s a genius level thing, right?

Matt Beaudreau (17:05):

He doesn’t ask you complex questions. So where your answers are just kind of these, uh, uh, you know, yes or no kind of things. He asks you the most simple questions that allow you to really go through your own thoughts. Uh, and it’s a skill that I don’t know, anybody that has it to the level that he does. So yeah, huge fan obviously. Do they have kids do those two have kids mm-hmm <affirmative> they do? Yeah. They’ve got a couple studs. Jeff has a, uh, he has a daughter. Who’s a, who’s a brilliant human from, uh, a previous marriage. And then, uh, he and Laura have two young men. Um, Sam and Charlie they’re somewhere around, um, I’ll say like 18 and 19 or 18, 19 and 20 they’re somewhere around around that. And, uh, both, you know, following after the parents’ footsteps, stellar young men, way smarter than I am way more handsome, way more. I mean, they’re just fricking they’re awesome.

Sevan Matossian (17:59):

Um, when, when, when I was raised, um, uh, in, in the abortion issue, um, came up, uh, it, it was all about, um, it, it was presented to me as a kid. Uh, very, I’m gonna use the word one sided, but even presenting it like that is one sided. I wanna be more open than that, but it was presented to me as this is a, a women’s rights issue and that, um, if you, if you don’t, uh, believe in allowing women to get abortions, uh, then you’re against women’s rights. And, and, and that was put into me just forever and ever, and ever. Right. And, and I use this subject because, um, uh, it is, so it is so charged, but if I were to, when I bring it up to my kids, I will, I will bring it. I will bring it up like that. Then I will also bring it up to what about the baby’s rights. And then I will also bring it up. Is this even the right question to ask? Like, maybe like, remember I’m posing it to you as either, is it the baby’s rights or is it the, uh, woman’s rights? Or maybe that’s not even the question to ask.

Matt Beaudreau (19:10):


Sevan Matossian (19:11):

And, and were present were presented these, but, but, but, but as a child, until I was like, I know this sounds so naive on my part, but until I was into my maybe forties, I’m 50 now it was never even mentioned that. What about the killing of the baby in the circles that I ran in? Never once mm-hmm <affirmative> like never, no, no one’s ever, it’s not like it’s, it’s 20 people sitting around with pickets in my, in my group being like, I can’t believe they’re against women’s rights. No, no one was like, what about the baby being kill? Killed? Sure. Like, no one ever.

Matt Beaudreau (19:44):

Sure. It

Sevan Matossian (19:44):

Was just attack. It was just attack anyone who said that. And I’m still pro-choice. Yeah. But, but I side with all the lo sorry. I’m yeah, I’m still pro-choice person, I guess. But I side with all the logic that’s on the pro-life side.

Matt Beaudreau (19:58):

Right. And that’s,

Sevan Matossian (19:59):

And, and, and, and I don’t want to take that away from my, I want my child to be, um, to be, to be able to say, I don’t know.

Matt Beaudreau (20:08):

Mm-hmm <affirmative>.

Sevan Matossian (20:09):

Yeah. And, and, um, and it was an interesting thing that I heard you talk about with Nick bear. About the other day, my son goes, Hey, I, I, I wanna know he, he caught some lizards in the backyard and he brought ’em in the house. We have ’em in a little cage with a light, and he, and we’ve been buying crickets for him. He goes, Hey, they had dried worms at the store. Can you ask your computer? If our lizards eat dry worms? And after listening to what you said, I’m like, oh, this fucking computer will never say, I don’t know. I could ask it. What happens after I die? It’ll tell me I can ask it where I was before I was born. It’ll tell there’s that computer’s only answers. Right. I can do something that computer can’t do. I can say, I don’t know. And I can drift into the unknown where all where in my opinions, where all the power is,

Matt Beaudreau (20:52):

That’s exactly where all the power is. That’s where the experience is. That’s where the learning is. That’s where, you know, it’s, it’s our ability. I

Sevan Matossian (20:58):

Was never allowed to be in the unknown cause cause an ideology was pumped onto me. It’s women’s rights. I was never allowed to be like, Hey, but, or how, what? Or no one asked me a question I was told

Matt Beaudreau (21:09):

That’s right. And what are the nuances around that? There aren’t yeah, that’s right. We take, you know, and, and we tend to do that as parents, we do that from, you know, uh, uh, systemic overviews. We do because you had the ideology, put it like, Hey pro-choice or your sex shit. Right? Like it’s

Sevan Matossian (21:26):

Just your yeah. Defend women or else you’re a piece of shit. It’s all about the women. Yeah. Right.

Matt Beaudreau (21:30):

Yeah. And then you’ve got people on the other side who are like, look, it’s all about the baby. Screw the lady.

Sevan Matossian (21:35):

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt Beaudreau (21:36):

That’s the ideology. They tell their kids, it’s all about the baby. Screw the lady. They don’t care. Cuz the lady clearly put herself in the situation. Right. And so you’ve got both sides and then what happens there, neither side wants to actually have a conversation. And so you inherently have division. So you inherently have a whole group of people that the reality is you probably agree on 85, 90%, you probably agree on so much. You’d probably be able to come together on so many things. You’d probably be able to make friendships. You’d probably be able to do some really cool things together and have some meeting of the minds, but you were introduced via, I oppose you. You oppose me, we’re enemies on this. Boom. And so then there’s an immediate disconnect and, and that is the story that’s spun, you know, especially in media now.

Matt Beaudreau (22:20):

And it’s, it’s just continuously about that division versus, okay, we’re gonna disagree on this. We’re gonna disagree, you know, on this specific topic, let’s talk about it. What are the nuances here? Are there some places where we do agree, maybe both sides agree, you know, on the, on the abortion issue, maybe we actually agree on some of, some of the nuances, some of the like unique one offs, some of the, maybe we can find some common ground here. And at the end of the day, if we can’t find some common ground on this, maybe we can still find some common ground, other places and not look at each other as enemies. We just look at each other as two people who disagree on this specific thing, you know? And, and um, and those are the conversations. That’s it? You want to have that and you gotta realize when you’re having those with your, with your young person too, and you saying, you don’t know, and they’re saying maybe they don’t know, or they have a specific opinion in they’re 15 they’re 18. That opinion could also change.

Sevan Matossian (23:16):

Yeah. Yeah.

Matt Beaudreau (23:16):

That opinion might change. Right. That’s part of

Sevan Matossian (23:19):

Might not even be thinking about it. Right. You might not even be thinking about it. Right. Yep. Because as you get, so, so eventually, so here’s like to give an, an example of that, um, precedent. So what the, um, you might be thinking it’s about, uh, pro uh, kill the baby or kill, kill the mom. And then someone could be like, well, or, um, sorry, kill the baby or, uh, mom’s rights. And then someone could be like, Hey, how can you kill a baby Seon? And then my response is, well, there’s another issue. What’s that Seon precedent what’s precedent. Precedent is, is if we allow to, if we allow society to tell women what they can and can’t do with their body, what’s that lead to what are the implications of that? So actually it has nothing to do with whether it’s killing and just giving someone a whole nother way to think about it. Yeah. And, and, and I don’t mean superficial ways, the superficial ways that go down rabbit holes are, and I’m okay with this kind of talk, but it doesn’t lead to an end. When is it actually a life, this kind of stuff where you’re going down a rabbit hole, instead of going bigger, picture going more enlightened going wiser. And, uh, it’s um,

Matt Beaudreau (24:25):

That’s the point though, is it’s all worth exploring. Right? Right. All of that, all of that is nuance worth exploring. Right. Cause when does it become a life? It, that inherently speaks if it is, if you’re, you know, the way Ben Shapiro describes it, as he’s talking about, um, you know, this, uh, eventually if left alone becomes this sentiment, you know, uh, sentient being. And so if, if that is the precedent that we are setting, then immediately upon, you know, conception, we are good to go. That is going to be a sentient being if, if sentient being, if left alone. Um, so then maybe we should leave that alone and people all, no, that’s not the case. He’s then he argues that. Okay, well, if somebody’s in a coma and we don’t know if they’re gonna come out, can we stab ’em can we kill him? You know? And I think all of these, whether you like Ben Shapiro or not, whether your choice, the point is fuck, listen and relax, listen.

Sevan Matossian (25:14):

Yeah. And,

Matt Beaudreau (25:15):

And understand at the end of the day, you will find something you disagree on with pretty much every other human on the planet. So then what are you gonna let it ruin your day? Are you gonna let it ruin your life? Are you gonna let it ruin all of your relationships? Or are you gonna look for ways to keep yourself emotionally in check, be able to, to have civil discourse, be able to change your mind? If better evidence gets presented, be able to push for what you believe I

Sevan Matossian (25:43):

Don’t or change yourself, become wiser yourself. Right?

Matt Beaudreau (25:46):

That’s it, man, that’s it. And I will always push hard for what I believe, but I promise you I’ll change my mind if new evidence is presented. Yeah. And I promise I’ll push hard while understanding that somebody else is coming at it from a different perspective in a different life phase with different background. And I’m not gonna get emotionally attached to them, disagreeing with me and I’m not gonna take it and go, well, then you’re a piece of shit and you and I can’t hang out. Like, that’s just, that’s a shitty way to live period. You know? And that’s, and again, I think any good educator circling back to somebody like Jeff, whatever, I think that’s what they actually want. Right. And that’s the definition of freedom is that I’m free in all of the ways that people are not because I think that way and because I keep my emotions in check and they are, and I’m free because I allow them to be free, including freely disagree with me and freely, you know, do something else as long as you’re not harming somebody, somebody else. So it’s, I don’t know. It’s a, it’s a big philosophical, freaking mumbo Jumo man. But, uh, I think it’s, I think it’s worth, um, especially when it comes to our kids, I think it’s worth considering where our shortcomings and that that’s, I try to be as aware of that as I can and realize when I screw that up. And, and, um, especially around my kids,

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

Um, uh, recent recently we had a, uh, a dude in, in the CrossFit community pop and, uh, for taking some sort of drug, he’s not allowed to take, uh, while competing, uh, it, it, the implications are, or, or maybe it’s not even implications, but it’s cheating. Like you can’t, you can’t eat bananas before the competition or else’s cheated. Right. We took some drugs and, and, uh, and I had him on the show and I said, what did your mom say? And she, my mom and dad said, I’m paraphrasing, but, uh, Hey, dip shit, why’d you do that? And they go, Hey, can I share something with you? And he goes, what? I go, I wanna tell you something about your parents. He goes, what? I go, um, they seem like they’re mad at you, but they’re mad at themselves. He goes, what do you mean? He goes, they wish that they would’ve had the relationship with you, that you would’ve come and asked them first.

Matt Beaudreau (27:46):

Mm mm-hmm

Sevan Matossian (27:47):

<affirmative> and, uh, when I was in college and I wanted to take MDM, a, I bought a book on MDM, a and I went to my mom with it and I read it and I’m like, mom, I want to take this shit. Like I went to my mom. I just realized that. Now, talking to you, I went to my mom. That’s how open. That’s how I could talk to my mom about anything.

Matt Beaudreau (28:02):

That’s awesome.

Sevan Matossian (28:03):

And I heard you say that recently about, um, not only your kids, but your wife that’s right. You, you said in an interview, I wanna be there so that my wife and my kids can talk to me about anything. That’s right. And I pride my, I pride myself on being able to go anywhere in my brain. Mm-hmm <affirmative> like, if any, if, if like, if someone wants to sit me down and con convince me that I’m a homosexual, I’m totally open to it. Let’s talk.

Matt Beaudreau (28:29):


Sevan Matossian (28:30):

The, the only conversation I can ever remember shutting down was someone tried to convince me that what Jeffrey Epstein was okay. What he did was okay. And that, um, those 15 year old girls were gonna have a worse life without him. And I go, Hey, dude, I’m not doing this.

Matt Beaudreau (28:46):


Sevan Matossian (28:47):

I’m not participating in that’s in my 50 years. That’s the only conversation. Yeah. I can ever remember, but there’s people all around me who don’t wanna talk about stuff.

Matt Beaudreau (28:55):

Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. I

Sevan Matossian (28:56):

Don’t wanna talk about Trump. I don’t wanna talk about Biden. I don’t wanna talk about anything. And I’m like, dude, these are so why this is so fun.

Matt Beaudreau (29:04):

Yeah. And don’t, don’t talk about religion. Don’t talk about politics, right? It’s rude. It’s rude. It’s rude. Well, it created a whole culture. They can’t talk about religion and can’t talk about politics. That’s what it created is it created a whole bunch of people that can’t do that. And if we start to do it again, it’s the automatic division. It’s the automatic emotional breakdown. Now I would tend to agree with you. I think, um, you know, if somebody is, is attempting a conversation that just immediately backs up to, uh, my, my values and my value systems, you’re not going to, we’re not gonna have conversations around why pedophilia is okay. That’s not gonna happen. Um, right, right. That I’m not. And I’m

Sevan Matossian (29:38):

Okay with that. If someone’s like, Hey, you’re a closed minded asshole. I still own that. The same way I own that. My, my iPhone might be made by, uh, child labor in China. I get it. Yeah. I guilty.

Matt Beaudreau (29:47):

Totally. Yeah, totally. But, um, but if it’s something worth discussing with somebody worth discussing it, you know, I, I, I also will, uh, just, just by nature of, of time and trying to protect my time.

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