#493 – HillerFit Review Show | NoBull, Mal or Laura, Drugs, and more

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Andrew bam. More than,

Andrew Hiller (00:02):

Hey, we’re right on.

Sevan Matossian (00:04):

Hey, I hear your AC on,

Andrew Hiller (00:06):

Uh, that’s a fan.

Sevan Matossian (00:07):


Andrew Hiller (00:09):

AC in the garage. Huh?

Sevan Matossian (00:11):

<laugh> you know, you ball you ball.

Andrew Hiller (00:13):

We, we all try to be just like you with a half pipe with a half pipe in our driveway.

Sevan Matossian (00:18):

Is it, is it, is it hot there?

Andrew Hiller (00:21):

Uh, no, it’s humid. Very humid. It’s probably like 85 in humid as shit.

Sevan Matossian (00:28):

Hey, I wonder when you’re gonna start sound, dude, putting like sound stuff in your garage.

Andrew Hiller (00:33):


Sevan Matossian (00:34):

Like sound foam. Like you could see some like, right. Uh, see the, see the couch right there. See back over there. There’s some sound foam stuck to the wall. If you like, could see all around this room, there’s like sound foam everywhere so that my voice doesn’t sound as, uh, tin candy. I wonder when you’re go.

Andrew Hiller (00:49):

Weren’t you tell me once you had different cameras, can we check the different cameras out and just see, see what all the sound foam looks like?

Sevan Matossian (00:55):

Oh yeah. Maybe we can do that. Let me

Andrew Hiller (00:57):

See that. That would be wild. And you’re about to blow everybody’s mind.

Sevan Matossian (01:01):

<laugh> I’ll try. Uh, how about this camera?

Andrew Hiller (01:05):

Oh yeah. Oh, sound phone?

Mattew Souza (01:07):


Sevan Matossian (01:08):

Nice. Just like stuck on the wall over there.

Andrew Hiller (01:10):

What does that do

Sevan Matossian (01:12):

It, I guess just makes my voice sound deeper. So it doesn’t sound like I’m in the shitter. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (01:16):

Doesn’t sound like my voice, Susan. Where are you?

Mattew Souza (01:20):


Andrew Hiller (01:22):

That’s cool.

Sevan Matossian (01:23):

That is really cool. Where exactly are you in Yosemite

Mattew Souza (01:27):

At a rush Creek rush Creek lodge. That’s

Andrew Hiller (01:33):

Cool. We’re over there too.

Mattew Souza (01:35):

Yep. Oh, that you could see the, uh, the, uh, sound caster.

Andrew Hiller (01:40):

Is this a first, everyone seeing different angles of you

Sevan Matossian (01:42):

First on the Hiller fit review show. Hell, Hey, we didn’t schedule this show. I can’t believe anyone watching. We fucked this all up.

Andrew Hiller (01:50):

I was entirely shocked to not see a comment in there. Maybe a little self-conscious he’s like, oh

Sevan Matossian (01:55):

Shit. Yeah. We didn’t schedule until 10 until 10 minutes ago.

Mattew Souza (01:59):

Yeah. I think Kenneth would put, uh, I think the notifications are jacked. No, that was on us.

Sevan Matossian (02:04):


Mattew Souza (02:04):

That was on 15 minutes ago. This show came up.

Andrew Hiller (02:07):

Should we, should we see how many people we get on here? Uh, Sunday morning, SU’s here from Yosem

Mattew Souza (02:14):

All the way

Andrew Hiller (02:15):

Out. All way.

Mattew Souza (02:16):

Yosem small paper cup with a small plastic lid.

Sevan Matossian (02:20):

Hey, you guys like my outfit?

Andrew Hiller (02:22):

Oh yes. You look like one of those seventies workout girls.

Mattew Souza (02:28):

Those rope

Andrew Hiller (02:29):

Sucks. Those roads. The call on me, video

Sevan Matossian (02:32):

Going. I’m gonna roller skating later.

Andrew Hiller (02:36):

Roller skating

Sevan Matossian (02:36):


Andrew Hiller (02:37):

I like the cool and Merton shirt.

Sevan Matossian (02:39):

How could anyone, how could anyone think I have any issues with the fucking gay community? Have you seen the way I fucking dress? I will take a, I just want someone to wanna bang

Andrew Hiller (02:51):

Me who people think you’ve had issues.

Sevan Matossian (02:53):

Yeah. Just idiots. You don’t listen to the show.

Mattew Souza (02:55):

That’s exactly what I was gonna say. It’s only if you actually don’t listen

Sevan Matossian (02:58):

To this show that you would think, take myself holding someone else’s cock and just, just anytime anyone says anything to me, that point to it, you’re free. You’re free. I’m free, man. Hey, you can get this Colton Merton shirt on the vindicate, uh, website. I believe it’s the same place you can get. No rep sh you used to be able to get no quality

Andrew Hiller (03:17):

Shirts. They’re called quality

Sevan Matossian (03:19):

Shirts. Yeah. A place you can get, uh, hill, whatever Hiller’s not being sued for. And, uh, think of any of his stuff. And you can get CEO shirts and TD CEO shirts. And if you are wearing, um, any, anything, any shirt from the Seon podcast, um, which would be the CEO shirt or, uh, any of those other shirts, um, not these shirts, but you should wear these shirts. You should buy those shirts. But if you’re wearing any of the Seon podcast shirts at the games on Sunday and you take a picture and you put it on your Instagram and you tag it, excuse me. Um, you will, uh, you, you could win an echo bike. We’re giving away echo bike on. And Gabe just did that by the way that, that this isn’t like, we didn’t like plan this isn’t. This is there’s no plan. It’s just all of a sudden, Gabe’s like, Hey, I’m buy echo bike so you can give it away. And then we’re like, fuck. Perfect. All good dude.

Andrew Hiller (04:15):

That’s how that went down.

Sevan Matossian (04:16):

Huh? Yeah. Everything is just everything’s like that. Like this show I called you last night or yesterday morning. And I’m like, Hey, will you come on with me? Yes. Sure.

Andrew Hiller (04:24):

Well, if you wear a no rep shirt on a Friday, I’m gonna give you my car. So <laugh> see this. This could be yours. Come on down.

Sevan Matossian (04:33):

Hey, he’s not guaranteed that giveaway the car, but there might be a car giveaway.

Andrew Hiller (04:38):

There might be a car giveaway. I’m not saying it’s gonna happen. I, I was, I did a video where I said, Hey, best comment in response to one of my first videos of Alexis gets one of these guys. That’s just like a heart rate monitor and the guy who one never reached out to me. So I guess I can give away his heart rate monitor.

Sevan Matossian (04:54):

Oh yeah. Give away his heart rate monitor. That’s good.

Andrew Hiller (04:56):

This thing’s sweet. I love these things. I, I got like a bunch of ’em to give away

Sevan Matossian (05:00):

For random reasons. Hey, is that one that goes across your titties?

Andrew Hiller (05:03):


Sevan Matossian (05:04):

And, and then, and then you can sync it to your concept too.

Andrew Hiller (05:08):

You can, uh, it’s actually really cool. If you sit down on the assault bike, it picks it up right away. Just like it’s always broadcasting the assault bike, picks it up. I should send you one. And then you can do your heart rate on the assault bite. See what?

Sevan Matossian (05:19):

Yeah. Or, or send me a link. I’ll buy one. Do they sell those on Amazon?

Andrew Hiller (05:22):

They do. It’s the, my zone heart rate monitor. I believe it’s the same one that a TH’s daughter or the Reiki evict crew use. And they have a video promoting it that it integrates into wi they’re. They’re very cool. It’s something that I wanted to do with the affiliate because in a way it gets orange, the esque, but on your Spotify icon, it shows you what your heart rate is. And if you’re like really high up there, your icon goes red. And if you’re sitting a bit of lower it’s orange, but it’s cool. Because as a coach, like I say, Susan’s running the class. If you had a projector, you could look over and you could see how everyone’s doing at that moment in relation to what the, my zone says.

Sevan Matossian (05:56):

Some dude, um, uh, the guy who started tumble track fitness, he also has a heart rate monitor, uh, company. And he sent me three watches and you can put them on. They’re not even watches. They’re just heart rate monitors. They go on, you can put ’em on your wrist or on your leg. You can put ’em anywhere on your body. And I put ’em on my boys and then they can play. Yeah. Something like that. And they can play. And then, yeah, except this one doesn’t go on their chest can just go on their calf. And uh, oh, that’s cool. They play. And I can watch their heart rates on my TV set. It is pretty cool. But it’s a pain in the ass, putting it all on them and setting it all up. It like takes like two minutes.

Mattew Souza (06:33):


Sevan Matossian (06:35):

Uh, did Annie and the crew do a tick talk dance with the monitor?

Andrew Hiller (06:40):

I’m not sure.

Sevan Matossian (06:44):


Andrew Hiller (06:44):

I know I’ve

Sevan Matossian (06:45):

Seen Hiller’s shirt on vindicate gets Hiller’s car go.

Andrew Hiller (06:48):

But only if the AK 40 sevens are in there with it. Yeah.

Mattew Souza (06:52):


Sevan Matossian (06:53):

Right. Yeah. Mr. Francis, you should hit the curse state.

Andrew Hiller (06:57):

You wanna know something wild to happened the other day, please. So Alexis and I went to the city for a birthday and I hate going to the city cuz I just feel like we’re not gonna make it out alive. Um, but we’re driving back. It’s maybe

Sevan Matossian (07:08):

What, what city?

Andrew Hiller (07:10):


Sevan Matossian (07:10):

Okay. Chi

Andrew Hiller (07:12):

We’re driving Chi <laugh> we’re driving back. It’s like nine o’clock and she points this out because she knows all this the same I do, but there’s a police car. We’re driving a couple lanes over from it. And up behind it pulls a Jeep Wrangler and it’s tailing it. It’s like this close really weird to see. And Alexis goes, that’s really odd. Her mom goes, that’s an undercover Wrangler. And we’re like, there’s no such thing as an undercover Jeep Wrangler. And then around it comes like my car just like it. Exactly like a car copy. And they just start fucking with this cop car. There’s these two cars like car cop car turns its lights off. And it goes off the road and it was, these cars are very often stolen over here. So it would be somebody who had stolen my car and they’re just fucking with the cops in Chicago. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (07:53):

That’s weird. She

Andrew Hiller (07:53):

Saw it firsthand. It was weird that

Sevan Matossian (07:55):

That’s um, very, uh, um, situationally aware of Alexis to see that.

Andrew Hiller (08:03):

Well, she went through the trauma of my car and, and now she just has an eye for it.

Sevan Matossian (08:08):

Just didn’t even notice tailgating. I

Andrew Hiller (08:11):

Didn’t think no one does that

Sevan Matossian (08:12):

Tailgating was any, I didn’t think tailgating. Uh, oh fuck. I know this is, this is just giving fodder. What? I shouldn’t say this. What

Andrew Hiller (08:21):

Are you gonna tailgate a cop car like that? You’re

Sevan Matossian (08:23):

Just asking. No, I just didn’t think women notice tailgating. I didn’t think they noticed anything that happened really on the road like that. I said on how can you say that? I just, cuz just anecdotally from the women I’ve been around. I mean a lot of men don’t notice it E either notice either. I just don’t think. Um, when I think of the two sexes, I think of a women not being as situationally aware.

Andrew Hiller (08:47):

Typically she wouldn’t be, but I’m not kidding. It was this close. Like if the cop would’ve hit the brake even a little bit, it would’ve, the car would’ve hit it. It was so close. It was so weird to see. And it’s all, it looks like grand theft auto to me like, Hey here’s should I mess with the cops? And then the game will restart and you do it again.

Sevan Matossian (09:04):

When, when you tell people that you’ve, I, I do this too. When you tell people that you’ve been with Alexis for like six or seven years. But, but, but you didn’t start boning her until like three or four years ago. So it’s kind of weird. Like when people ask, how long have you been? How long you’ve been with her? You’re like six or seven years. I’ll tell people like how long you’ve been with your wife. I’ll be like 24 years. Molly. We haven’t been together that long. I’m like, God, you’re so shallow. Like what’s my, what, what the girls are so shallow that they think that, that the relationship started when you

Andrew Hiller (09:33):

Put a date on it,

Sevan Matossian (09:34):

When you put your penis in them <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (09:37):

Oh, that’s when you think it started.

Sevan Matossian (09:38):

That’s when they think it started. I told my wife, it started when I saw you. <laugh> just because I didn’t bone you for five years. Doesn’t mean it’s like those five years don’t count. Yeah. You’re still, I noticed that from one your videos, I think you have the similar situation you think you’ve been with her six or seven years? She tells people three or four years. You’re like, yo, when I saw you, you were mine,

Andrew Hiller (09:56):

Correct? Yeah. 2015. I’d say 2018. She says, it’s just like, what did you name that movie that you made

Sevan Matossian (10:03):

Five years to fornication five years. I didn’t make it.

Andrew Hiller (10:06):

I just wrote this. I was kinda naming the video that, but I don’t know how many people would’ve understood. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (10:11):

That’s the, I would, you know, what’s weird is so last night I was making sure I saw all your videos and I can’t believe I missed that one. That one’s from six or seven days ago. Yeah. The birthday tribute.

Andrew Hiller (10:21):

The, the, the weirdest thing about doing these with you is that I’m very like one or two days at a time. And I have no idea what we’re gonna talk about. <laugh> right. I, I, I made that video, but that was so six days ago.

Sevan Matossian (10:32):

<laugh> yeah. Yeah. It’s crazy. Your turnout. Um, did you see the amazing, um, video CrossFit games put out, uh, two days ago, it’s a tribute to all of the, it’s the wide variety of, uh, ethnic athletes participating in races, participating in the 2022 CrossFit games.

Andrew Hiller (10:53):

I saw the, uh, mayhem video. They put out,

Sevan Matossian (10:56):

Oh, there is no such video. I made it up.

Andrew Hiller (10:59):

Oh, that’s why I missed

Sevan Matossian (11:00):

It. <laugh> yeah. I was like, I was looking at this year’s I was looking at this year’s lineup and I’m like, man, they did a horrible job of, uh, being, uh, equitably, racist this year. Horrible Stephon is more athletic than I expected him to. I’m gonna have to make some videos of like me doing some stuff like playing Frisbee and shit.

Andrew Hiller (11:19):

That’s what you told me once. You’re like, you should see me throw a Frisbee. No one does you quite like me? I’m like get Brian, get Brian out there.

Sevan Matossian (11:26):

Yeah, that’s

Mattew Souza (11:27):

True. You could throw a great Frisbee. You should also do your, uh, Al and burpee workout. I think people would be impressed with your, your burpy speed.

Sevan Matossian (11:34):

Didn’t didn’t I do like six months ago, 50 burpees in, in a minute and 58 or something like that. I did some on your

Andrew Hiller (11:40):

Birthday. On your birthday. How so were you from doing all those snatches?

Sevan Matossian (11:47):

I, I was really beat up. Not like, um, it was, and I’m really inflamed. I for, I forgot just everyone.

Andrew Hiller (11:56):

Susan. Didn’t you say that you were worried about him? <laugh> of course. You’re kind of his coach. I would say that you’re kind to Chevon’s coach.

Mattew Souza (12:04):

Right? When I do that, uh, Hobart throughout the thing, I was like, Seon. Just be careful of your back please.

Andrew Hiller (12:09):

How did that whole thing transpire again? Cause I haven’t been able to watch the master show yet. And I think that it first happened on there. Right? Where you Hobar somebody brought up curse at her.

Sevan Matossian (12:19):

Someone, a friend of mine came over, uh, what was the first video? I, there was a video I made. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so there was that and someone just came over to my house while I was riding the assault bike and said, Hey, you should do the two K row. I’m like, no, dude, I’m riding the assault bike, I’m chilling. And then you can see in the video I walk over, I pull down the rower and I row and I was kind of, I, I was not happy. And then, and then, uh, but, but for, but I just felt a peer pressure. And then, uh, and then I was at the beach and the same person contacted me and said, Hey, where are you? I said, I’m at the beach. And they came over and they filmed and it’s aspiring just a, uh, a young, aspiring filmmaker doing it. And then the other day, oh, that’s the other day I was, uh, they must have seen the show where Hobart mentioned the curse, did a workout and they just showed up at my, they had asked me earlier, when will you be home today? I said around one 30, between one 30 and three 30. And they go, I might come over and then fucking low and behold, this person just rolls on in holding the camera. I’m like Mike, and

Andrew Hiller (13:21):

Then you just ready? Set, go.

Sevan Matossian (13:23):

Yeah. And you know what? I really, I really it’s. I’m so out the loop, I didn’t even warm up with, I should have warmed up with some PVC and some overhead squats.

Andrew Hiller (13:33):

You didn’t warm up at all.

Sevan Matossian (13:35):

I, I was warm. I was pouring sweat. I rode the assault bike. But yesterday, yesterday I set the interval timer for 10 minutes and I did, um, 5 45 pound, overhead squats on the minute for 10 minutes. And the first five rounds, I couldn’t even find the fucking position. You know what I mean? Like I kept coming forward. And then, and finally the last five rounds, I’m like, okay. I found the position.

Andrew Hiller (13:54):

Well, it’s been, how long since you’ve been overhead

Sevan Matossian (13:57):

10 years. Well not, I mean overhead.

Andrew Hiller (13:59):

You’re not fucking kidding. It’s been 10 years. Cause

Sevan Matossian (14:02):

I said that video,

Andrew Hiller (14:03):

But I was kinda kidding. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (14:05):


Andrew Hiller (14:05):

It’s been a tech since this, guy’s put a bar over his head, but you, oh my God, dude.

Sevan Matossian (14:10):

But I’m told you I’m a dumbbell snatch,

Andrew Hiller (14:12):

But your back you’re back into it. You’re back into the fold.

Sevan Matossian (14:15):

Kinda. I don’t know. I am gonna, I do snatch. I did do some legless rope climbs yesterday. Not a lot. I did like five. I did one on, uh, and then I practiced those overhead squats with the 45 pound bar. I don’t wanna get caught. Like I don’t wanna get caught like that again. Cuz some other fucking knucklehead says to do a workout and this dude comes over and tries to film me. I, I need start like working on. Thank God. I don’t have a G D

Andrew Hiller (14:39):

You should start following main site.

Sevan Matossian (14:43):

Oh, I guess maybe. And I need to work on my, I need to figure out double unders again. I bet you, I forgot how to do those

Andrew Hiller (14:48):

Careful with that because all you are 50 and every time I’ve seen anybody reintroduce, double lenders and get after it, they end up blowing something out, down there.

Sevan Matossian (14:57):

Oh like their Achilles’s

Andrew Hiller (15:00):

You’re not that old, but I’ve seen it before. Usually they’re approaching or over 60

Sevan Matossian (15:05):

<laugh>. Oh man. I think my mom does double unders and she’s in her seventies. She’s closer to 80 than 70.

Mattew Souza (15:12):

Yeah. Your mom’s fit.

Andrew Hiller (15:13):

You probably haven’t seen the video I put out on you versus me versus cursed at her. Have

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

You dude? I did see that.

Andrew Hiller (15:21):

I got you.

Sevan Matossian (15:22):

<laugh> yeah, it’s crazy.

Andrew Hiller (15:24):

Just by a bit, you know, what’s crazy. Her she’s fucking crazy cursed at her.

Sevan Matossian (15:29):

How about how you lift up the 75 pounds? So, so you start the workout and my wife and I are watching it. I took it from my phone and put, put it up on my TV cuz the, um, and you lift up my wife and I both started laughing. Like we didn’t even talk. When we saw you lift up the 75 pounds, we started laughing. Why? Cause you didn’t. Cause you didn’t have to snatch the 70. You didn’t have to do nothing. You picked a 75 pounds up. Like I pick up like a gallon of water. I was like, oh shit. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (15:57):

Ran. You ever do the workout, Randy at 75 for 75.

Sevan Matossian (16:00):

Maybe when I was in my thirties.

Andrew Hiller (16:02):

Soon as you’ve done Randy, right?

Mattew Souza (16:04):


Andrew Hiller (16:06):

There was, was it 2013 regional event one.

Andrew Hiller (16:11):

Um, it’s one of those work that she just kind of blow through it. I, I wanna see cursed at her. Do it. Cause you said you felt like that when you saw me do it. I want to know at what point the width started to look heavy for her because I got 84. I know rent myself a couple of times. And so technically I beat her by two and it means that she went the exact same pace with weight. That for me, would’ve been equivalent of 180 5 on that last bar. And there’s not a there’s I don’t know if there’s a single person on the planet, mades throwing in his prime Frazier and his prime who could have gotten that many reps on

Sevan Matossian (16:43):

Up. What do you mean phoning? Isn’t his prime dickhead.

Andrew Hiller (16:46):

All right. Phoning. Right now he should, you know, phoning, phoning should go do the curse center challenge. But do you think that he Suza could do 50 repetitions at 180 5 at the end of that workout or 1 75 even? No, no. There’s not enough chance in fuck. There’s no way.

Sevan Matossian (17:02):

Hey, to give people is incredible to give people, uh, kind of context. So, um, uh, Hiller did that exact workout with men weight and the final weight was 2 45. Not in the video. You’re gonna see. But in previous he talks about it. So I did 1 25 and I got seven reps. He did 2 45 and he got nine reps. And you know what else is crazy when I watch you do the workout, you’re supposed to wait a minute after the last, uh, 1 0 5. I don’t, I was watching I’m like, I don’t remember waiting a minute. <laugh> I remember just being like, fuck. Oh, I got think I cheated. And I got, I got seven and, and at one point you, you know, rep yourself and my fucking wife, she has no heart. Sometimes she goes, Hey, if that didn’t count, none of yours counted. <laugh> I’m like, oh, I’m like, damn, I only got 37. Can’t you just look the other way.

Andrew Hiller (17:56):

My first thought is you spend enough time talking to the camera. That that would be your one minute rest time.

Sevan Matossian (18:01):

Oh man.

Andrew Hiller (18:02):

That was a good video though. It was awesome. I tried to set mine up in a way where it’s like how to legitimately submit an outlying qualifying video. And I was talking through it the whole time. It’s like, eh, it wouldn’t have it’s one. Cause the bar just for a little bit of food for thought for anyone who would watch it,

Sevan Matossian (18:19):

I don’t wanna do, I don’t wanna turn into, um, yeah. Okay. I might even gonna go there. Okay.

Andrew Hiller (18:25):

You keep on backing off what you you’re getting soft.

Sevan Matossian (18:27):

Yeah, I am. I’m definitely getting I’m. I’m having a, uh, uh, I was feeling very nice this morning.

Andrew Hiller (18:34):

Hey, I can make you angry. You, you want me to make you angry?

Sevan Matossian (18:37):

Sure, sure.

Andrew Hiller (18:39):

I got something for you.

Sevan Matossian (18:40):

You liked the Joe. Holy cow. Did you drink it?

Andrew Hiller (18:44):

It’s not open yet. I, I assume what is that

Sevan Matossian (18:47):

Filth? That thing has 63 grams of sugar.

Andrew Hiller (18:51):

It sure does.

Sevan Matossian (18:51):

Hey, I bet you, you wouldn’t even be able to find that in my neighborhood.

Andrew Hiller (18:55):

Where did you find it? Then?

Sevan Matossian (18:57):

They just wouldn’t sell that where I live. You have to go to

Andrew Hiller (19:00):

Oakland. Oh, you traveling across

Sevan Matossian (19:01):

The be

Andrew Hiller (19:02):

Able to get this

Sevan Matossian (19:03):

You. Well, no, you live by Chicago. You live by one of the worst cities in the fucking planet. Um, I, I I’d live in heaven

Andrew Hiller (19:12):

Whenever I go to the grocery store. I got, I got this two months ago. All right. And it’s been sitting in the fridge <laugh> and it’s just like kinda something where if there was like something a time in which I wanted to like treat myself, not necessarily treat myself, but try something wild. This was it. And then I saw it on your story the other day. And I go, I gotta show seven. I got one of these.

Sevan Matossian (19:32):

Hey, if you, if you do, do you have a glucose monitor?

Andrew Hiller (19:35):

Jesus Christ. Whoa. Ah, no.

Sevan Matossian (19:37):

It would be fantastic. It would be fantastic. Is that coffee? Is that carbonated or what was that? Yeah. What is in there? What’s

Andrew Hiller (19:44):

All in that. I don’t know. It just says nitro.

Sevan Matossian (19:48):

It tasted. I wanna watch your eyes. See what your eyebrows do. Take of this. Do you have sunglasses?

Andrew Hiller (19:56):

It tastes really good.

Sevan Matossian (19:58):

It’s it’s too sweet.

Andrew Hiller (20:00):

It’s not that it’s too sweet. It’s flat.

Sevan Matossian (20:02):

Oh, oh.

Andrew Hiller (20:03):

Oh. I don’t know why it’s you know what they’re trying to do. They’re trying to turn it into like, if you were to get a beer off a temp and it’s, it tastes kind of flat.

Sevan Matossian (20:10):

Yeah. It’s um, like beer

Andrew Hiller (20:12):

Either. So

Sevan Matossian (20:12):

That’s the nitro thing. Does it taste like coffee?

Andrew Hiller (20:15):

No, it just tastes like someone. You know what? Taste like someone who could’ve put coffee in it. It’s kind of diluting the fizz. So it’s not very fizzy. It’s not good. I couldn’t drink this whole thing. Seriously.

Sevan Matossian (20:26):


Andrew Hiller (20:27):

60. I can do it. Sarcastically

Sevan Matossian (20:30):

63 grams of sugar.

Andrew Hiller (20:32):

Really bad. God.

Sevan Matossian (20:33):

That’s crazy. Hey, you like you, you like the, uh, the, the Rogan podcast with Matt, you said you liked it in one of your videos this week.

Andrew Hiller (20:41):

I’ve probably watched it three times.

Sevan Matossian (20:43):

Okay. And, and I’ve only watched it

Andrew Hiller (20:44):

Watch you listen

Sevan Matossian (20:45):

To, yeah. I only listen to it. Oh, I got itch on my butt. I only listened to it once. Um, but I didn’t like it at all.

Andrew Hiller (20:52):

What did you not like?

Sevan Matossian (20:54):

Uh, I, Matt didn’t seem relaxed. The conversation wasn’t flowing and, and I didn’t like the way CrossFit was portrayed.

Andrew Hiller (21:02):

That was the biggest criticism of it. If I recall, I actually had a handful of people that I know close and were talking to me about the fact that he kind of talked down upon CrossFit and the coaching and walking into a gym and everyone’s running around with like a chick with their head cut off. So I could see that.

Sevan Matossian (21:17):

But why did you like it? Maybe, maybe I’m maybe I’m just too like, uh, I bring too much to it. I was looking for something.

Andrew Hiller (21:23):

Do you watch Rogan?

Sevan Matossian (21:25):

No. Just the little clips that I used to watch on when I,

Andrew Hiller (21:28):

Why do you not watch him?

Sevan Matossian (21:30):

I don’t have, if he was a guest on my show, I’d watch him. I watch your shit. Cause you’re a guest on my show. I watch SU’s shit. Cause he’s a guest on my show. I watch my shit. Cause I’m a guest on my show. But if you’re not a guest on my show, then I don’t watch shit cuz I Don’ have so much time.

Andrew Hiller (21:44):

So you don’t watch any of the stuff with the fighters?

Sevan Matossian (21:47):


Andrew Hiller (21:47):

Cause you’re into

Sevan Matossian (21:47):

That. I am into that.

Andrew Hiller (21:50):

Um, cuz I typically am a sucker for content in which I like the people that are on the show.

Sevan Matossian (21:55):

I watched the one with Matt because I did because I had the podcast with Matt.

Andrew Hiller (21:59):

Understood. So the only way you’ll ever watch more Rogan is if Rogan’s on the show and that’s where,

Sevan Matossian (22:05):

Or if I had let, let me rephrase that. I’ve also had like I had Joe, uh, Salinger, Joel Salinger, the godfather of homestead farming on the show and he was on, uh, Rogan. So I watched that Rogan episode

Andrew Hiller (22:21):

Salad. Okay. So you watched a couple they’re long. They’re so long.

Sevan Matossian (22:24):

Yeah. Don’t avoid the question. Why did you like it? You felt like he was giving good information. You wanted to go out and get some beta alanine. You liked the way his hair looked. His voice was soothing to you further. You thought it was just cool that someone from the CrossFit community made it big time. Give me so

Andrew Hiller (22:38):

No the best, the best way that I could put it is. And I brought this up before Frazier. You don’t hear him talk very much about what he was doing while he was doing it because he didn’t wanna give away any of his trade secrets. And when I listen to things, I look for, I call him gold nuggets to pull out and kinda like store in the back of my brain to pull out and throw into whenever I need to throw ’em into something. And I felt as if I was watching that and maybe I pulled out more from that three hours than I have from other podcasts. So there’s certain podcasts I’ll turn on. I’m like that was a completely waste of an hour or two. And that one after three hours it was worthwhile.

Sevan Matossian (23:13):


Andrew Hiller (23:13):

That makes sense.

Sevan Matossian (23:14):

I was looking for certain stuff that I didn’t get. And you were looking for certain stuff that you did get and that makes total sense.

Andrew Hiller (23:19):

What were you looking for?

Sevan Matossian (23:21):

I just looking for stuff to just jerk off the community, to let people know that the affiliates have the cure for the world’s most vexing problem and that everyone should get in there. And you know, I just, I just something to, to unify the community round, get it excited, invigorate it, something that affiliates with feel proud of to share.

Mattew Souza (23:38):

Yeah. I mean I think with Rogan,

Sevan Matossian (23:40):

He go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, you go ahead. You go

Mattew Souza (23:42):

Ahead. No, I was just gonna say with Rogan, I mean, he’s always so close to talking about CrossFit in the methodology and I think the stuff that he always has on there, like is CrossFit all the time, but we’ve just never everybody from the CrossFit community go in there and talk. So everybody was like, well shouldn’t say everybody, myself was so pumped to be like, yes, this is our chance. He’s gonna expose RO to CrossFit. We’re gonna get all these people in here. It’s gonna get a crazy amount of attention to the community and to the space. And then it was a total flop you ever like got a firework back of the day and you go to light it and everybody’s all afraid and you’re like running around and you light it. Everybody runs away that it just goes and that it just does nothing. And you’re like, ah, that’s kind of what it was for me. But,

Sevan Matossian (24:17):

But, but, but I’ll take responsibility because it was what I was looking for. If I was looking for what you were looking for, maybe I would’ve been, it’s like going to the amusement park and I wanna ride a certain ride and I get there and it’s closed. Right? And you’re like, what do I care? I came here for the chicks in the, in the, in the, in the, um, popcorn. So you’re stoked. So that’s that’s I guess that makes sense. So it’s not that it’s not that Matt did a bad job. It’s just no, he was fine. He didn’t do, he didn’t do what I wanted.

Andrew Hiller (24:44):

I liked that he brought up the peds and that lawyer that I heard from another, from, from another

Sevan Matossian (24:48):

Source son of a bitch.

Andrew Hiller (24:50):

So I found, I found the chicks at the amusing park. That’s what I found. That’s why I like,

Sevan Matossian (24:54):

Hey, I asked didn’t I ask Joelle, if anyone called him,

Andrew Hiller (24:58):

You did. Yeah. And he said, no, but I don’t think he had enough time. Or I like my, you didn’t

Mattew Souza (25:03):

Have enough Instagram followers.

Andrew Hiller (25:05):

<laugh> my, my biggest speculation is that everyone’s just doing it because they’ve seen that it worked before. Not because this lawyer’s doing their job anymore. Everyone’s like, oh, it worked for those people back in 2018, I’m gonna try. And then I brought up a handful of times. Now that Toby Johnson guy said it and then came out saying that he was full of shit later after his B sample was tested. And after his affiliate said that they were gonna test all of his supplements for him and that it’s cost tens of thousands of dollars. And he’s like, wait a minute, guys. Don’t do that. I lied. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (25:40):

You’re a good dude. Hiller.

Andrew Hiller (25:42):


Sevan Matossian (25:43):


Andrew Hiller (25:43):

Thanks. Thanks.

Sevan Matossian (25:45):

I have been told, I have been told that teen, Matt are not friends.

Andrew Hiller (25:50):

Have you been, oh, that’s fucking wild.

Sevan Matossian (25:53):

You, you speculated that in the video. And I have been told that by very credible, by many, several credible sources that they parted ways on. Not, uh, good terms. No.

Andrew Hiller (26:02):

Yes. <laugh> this makes me feel so good. I gotta go tell Alexis that she’s the one who sparked that whole thing. We’re watching that finish documenting and they’re like, she goes, when’s the last time we saw them together. Like, I don’t know. And I’ve watched all the semifinals and you never see ’em together and they’re there. Like there’s the T cam. There’s the met cam. It’s never like the, oh, look it. They’re talking to one another it’s

Mattew Souza (26:24):

Yeah, you

Sevan Matossian (26:24):

Got, I don’t know if, I don’t know if this is true, but when Dave announced, uh, TF, two me as the fittest person in the history, CrossFit or something like that at the games last year, I heard that, that, that also caused some friction.

Andrew Hiller (26:42):

Oh, he doesn’t like that.

Sevan Matossian (26:44):

That, well, that’s what I heard

Andrew Hiller (26:46):

You think he can come back and win.

Sevan Matossian (26:47):

No, no, no, no, no,

Andrew Hiller (26:49):

No, no. Yeah. That’s your thing. You don’t think anybody

Sevan Matossian (26:50):

Can take time off. He doesn’t, he doesn’t need, he doesn’t need to. I, um, uh,

Andrew Hiller (26:54):

Why, why, why, why?

Sevan Matossian (26:56):

Because that girl’s gonna be that girl’s. So, so you said something really interesting about ma Obrien that I, that I kind of like, I do think that ma O’Brien is the only person who can beat Tia. I don’t think ma O’Brien will take second place. It’s kind of a weird, it’s a weird thing.

Andrew Hiller (27:13):

Okay. Fill me. Do you mean, what do you got?

Sevan Matossian (27:16):

I don’t know if I know how to explain it, but she has the capability. She is the, she is right now the most impressive thing we’ve seen

Andrew Hiller (27:23):


Sevan Matossian (27:24):


Andrew Hiller (27:26):

You follow Ben Smith, right? You’ve been listening to his stuff. Did you see the one he put out recently

Sevan Matossian (27:32):

About the, about the Roys?

Andrew Hiller (27:34):

About Laura Horvath?

Sevan Matossian (27:36):

No, no, no. I must have missed it. What’d he say?

Andrew Hiller (27:38):

He thinks that she’s on another planet of fitness right now. And he thinks that, uh, people are putting out. It almost seemed as if he was talking directly about my stuff. Which if he was, I want him to say that it was from me, but like

Sevan Matossian (27:50):

Everyone talking about me, Brian. Hey, do you ever, do you ever say to Alexis while you guys are making sweet love? Say my name, say my name. Yeah. Do you just tell us every

Andrew Hiller (27:57):

Single time

Sevan Matossian (27:58):

I fucking do

Andrew Hiller (27:59):

It every single time?

Sevan Matossian (28:01):

I knew it.

Andrew Hiller (28:02):

Nothing works. If, if the name

Sevan Matossian (28:04):

Isn’t said, you just love how you just want your name said so fucking bad. And guess what? I’m gonna, you know what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna get you that I’m gonna find someone you really look up to and I’m gonna have them just say your, make a recording then going cameo, Hiller little came. Yes. Yes.

Andrew Hiller (28:19):

Any, any way can get Greg Lastman to say my name.

Sevan Matossian (28:21):

Okay. Okay. Now I’m on

Andrew Hiller (28:23):

<laugh> all right. Just send me a little voice.

Sevan Matossian (28:24):

So Laura HVAT Laura HVAT.

Andrew Hiller (28:27):

Oh, uh, just, well, and then he put up a video of the following day. It looked like a story. Maybe it was a real, but it was a what little thing? A running workout. And she’s hundreds of yards in front of him. It was just a good tie together. After that saying she’s in incredible shape, beaten down the former fittest man in the world. He says that even on his best workouts where he has no reason to be losing, she’s still beating them. Even if they’re like are like co uh, comparably her worst workouts. So it’ll be interesting to see how she performs at the games. They kept on saying the fact that Tia scored the most points ever last year. And then in second place, Laura, if there were no Tia would’ve scored the most points ever in the history of the CrossFit games, I haven’t then gone back to see the number of events cuz I know that they did 15 events last year and every other year I would also speculate that they have done less events. So I don’t think that it’s an accurate state.

Sevan Matossian (29:24):

Say that again. Tia had the most points ever, but if Tia wasn’t there, Laura would’ve held that record

Andrew Hiller (29:28):

Something ridiculous, like 1,440 points out of a possible 1500 points. Tia scored. Yeah. And then Laura was like 1190 ish.

Sevan Matossian (29:37):


Andrew Hiller (29:37):

Yeah. And I don’t have the leaderboards pulled up, but if that 1190 would’ve been the points ever scored for a female at the CrossFit games. And if Tia weren’t there, she would hold that record. But I also think that there were two or more events than typical, which would skew everything. So it was a weird thing for them to be saying, and I haven’t double checked that yet.

Sevan Matossian (29:55):

Um, HVAD has a, and, and they also have proximity bias. Right? Cuz they trained also true.

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