#485 – Jorge Ventura

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

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Join me now from Southern California field reporter for the daily call, Jorge Ventura.

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So joining me now for more someone who covers the border for us, Jorge Ventura, with the daily call,

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You also live in Washington DC report from the border. These marijuana girls are either connected to Mexican cartels or high level criminal organizations that also use human trafficking as they use workers to work these

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Girls, Hey, what’s up guys? I am live from the, uh, Chas zone here order. We,

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What do we order

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Everyone? We just crossed. We just crossed the real ground into an island. What those group of migrants, we actually almost got swept away with the migrants. This woman was left eye. And right

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Now we’re still trying to get an exact timeline, uh, from Texas DPS. And right now parents have more questions than answers on what happened on the 24th

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Reporting on another night’s of rights in

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Kenosha, Wisconsin,

Sevan Matossian (01:43):

Bam. Wow. Wow. It’s good. It’s good. It’s good. Jorge Ventura coming on just a minute here. Uh, you guys originally met Jorge, a couple shows back. He works the border. He works all the gnarly spots. If, if, if something’s going on there, he works that spot. Uh, and when we first had him on the show, he was working the border and he reported something on his, oh yeah, I can’t wait. I’m gonna open with this. He reported that in the last six months, 3.5 million people have crossed the border illegally. I wonder how many have crossed illegally 3.5 million. That’s 1% of the United States population. And I’m gonna contextualize that even more, uh, soon. Uh, he, uh, he’s Def Dick. You’re definitely not talking to me. You must be talking to Zachary and that’s no, that’s not nice. Please. Don’t talk like that about, uh, to Zachary.

Sevan Matossian (03:02):

That’s not cool at all. Uh, he’s back at the border. He’s back at the border. He’s been everywhere, man. Uh, when we had him on the show, he gave us a, a detailed, uh, description of the night, uh, written house was attacked by those three dudes and, uh, shot them all. And he gave us his perspective on it and what he was doing there. Yeah, exactly. That’s exactly what I was gonna say. He’s one of the few actual journalists these days, because what’s fascinating to me and I wanted to wait till he was on to do this, but why, why isn’t the left using him? He he’s like verte journalism. He’s pointing the camera at shit. He’s pointing the camera at shit and he’s collecting it. I mean, Jorge, are you gay?

Jorge Ventura (03:46):

Absolutely not.

Sevan Matossian (03:48):

Okay. So nothing,

Jorge Ventura (03:49):

Nothing wrong with that, but you know, oh no, we’re not. We don’t play on that team.

Sevan Matossian (03:52):

I’m just seeing what boxy check. I don’t know why the left media doesn’t get this guy because he’s brown. And he checks that box and his parents are immigrants. He checks that box. Uh, he’s hardworking. He checks that box and he tells the truth. He’s just at the border pointing the camera. And, and the only thing that we have to question are his eyes. So if he says he sees 400 people, we kind of have to take his word for it. He’s given us some estimates, but we’re good, critical thinkers. And we can decide, uh, when, when he’s making estimates and not, uh, have you been hired by hi by the way,

Jorge Ventura (04:24):

Man? How are we doing, man? And it’s, it’s it’s

Sevan Matossian (04:29):

You has anyone on the left tried to, uh, have, cause last time whenever I talked to you or I’ve talked to you in the past, you’re always working with like media that’s supposedly right. And I’m always surprised that like CNN or CBS or something like that, hasn’t scooped you up yet.

Jorge Ventura (04:43):

No. So the only time, um, the only time even CNN has reached out to me is when I got arrested in 2020 covering, uh, the rights in Louisville, I was mistaken for a writer. So, um, so CNN actually interviewed us and they, they had our back. It’s kind of like an unhidden, like a, like an unwritten rule in journalism. When the journalists get arrested, everyone has their back. So that that’s the only times they had my back Telemundo has actually had me on one or two times over the, you know, over the stuff at the border with the, with the migrants. But, um, you know, that’s actually something that I still think about this to this day that like, you know, I covered the, the rides all 2020 and CNN, MSNBC, CBS news, ABC news, not one of them contacted me to, to just talk about, you know, what we saw on the ground and stuff,

Sevan Matossian (05:29):

And you checked their boxes for them. And this brings up my point. And for anyone who’s listening, who, uh, is, is like me in a super liberal, you should know this, the libs don’t really care about black and brown and gay. They only care about people who have the same agenda as them, if they really cared about the whole, if they really cared about someone. Um, but based on the color of their skin or whose genitalia they liked, they would be hiring all sorts of people, but they don’t. And so it’s, it’s, it’s weird how they can just be caught in that lie so easily

Jorge Ventura (06:05):

And, and really quick, well, really quickly what you’re saying right now. And we’re seeing a perfect example of that with Myra floors, right? Mexican women wins of Republican. See, she’s a great story, you know, of an underdog of an immigrant of, of a, of a woman standing up and, and rising up into politics. And guess what happens one week later, New York times the rise of the fall, right? Latina. I mean, you, you, you can’t even write this. I mean, this is parody to me at this point. I mean, you can’t even make it up anymore.

Sevan Matossian (06:32):

Tell me, tell me for us knuckleheads. Why don’t you like that? Headline. Tell us that headline one more time and tell me why you don’t like it.

Jorge Ventura (06:39):

The, the headline, I believe it was, uh, the rise of the far right. Uh, Latina. And the funny thing about it is Myra <laugh> Myra is, is if, if, if you, if first of all, she’s just like a normal Hispanic woman with the normal family, traditional values, all that good stuff. But you know, if, if you talk to her about immigration, it’s not like she’s like a hardliner on immigration. It’s not like she’s like deport every illegal. And I want this, she, I mean, she wants strong borders, but she supports legal immigration. I mean, if you, you actually speak to some Republicans, she’s not even strong enough yet, but according to New York times, she’s far right. And she just has the normal Catholic traditional views. If New York times thinks, thinks Myra is far right. I mean, their mind will explode if they just drew. If they just drove over south Texas in, in McAllen DeLillo and they meet all these Hispanics with like regular views on, I mean, on just like life and stuff. I mean, I don’t know. It’s nothing, nothing too crazy.

Sevan Matossian (07:32):

What did you think about Nancy Pelosi shoving her daughter?

Jorge Ventura (07:37):

Um, well, to be honest, man, I, when I first saw it, I didn’t know if it was like a shove shove. Cause you know, sometimes the media goes a little crazy with these clips. Sure. But it looked like it kind of looked, it kind of did look like a shove or so was like, oh dang. And then my,

Sevan Matossian (07:50):

She looked down at her first Jorge, she looked down, she saw it was a little kid and then she pushed with her arm. She, she looked down at her.

Jorge Ventura (07:58):

Yeah. Yeah. So I, I, after I saw it a few times, I said, oh, dang, that was a shove. What I was actually more surprised was I was like, you know what? I don’t think Myra floors would even, she’s not, she’s not gonna say anything, but she actually came out, tweeted it out and like leveled the criticism. And I was like, wow. Um, that

Sevan Matossian (08:13):

Was, what do you mean? She leveled the criticism. What do you mean by that?

Jorge Ventura (08:16):

Well, cause you know what? I was actually expecting her, not like, you know, like cuz that clip went viral and I was like, you know what? I don’t think, I don’t think she would say anything. Right. Like I don’t think she, she, she will respond and create news. I was completely wrong. She like quote tweeted the video and was like, Hey, my, my daughter handled that with grace in one of our biggest moments. Um, so that kind of created this whole kind of media storm with that, with that whole thing. But uh, we just, we just interviewed Myra, I think like less than two weeks ago in, uh, in McAllen, Texas. So we’re, we’re in the heart of south Texas and her community. And I’m telling you right now, the political organizing in south Texas, what the G O P is doing the G P south Texas needs to go over there and do like a fucking case study because I’m over there.

Jorge Ventura (08:58):

I’m meeting 16 year olds already registered with the Hildago county, G O P I’m meeting college kids already registered with third county, G O P. And it’s all Hispanics. I mean, it’s, it’s all Latinos. It’s all Mexican, you know, majority Mexicans, um, down there who are organizing, um, getting the votes, registering people. I mean, McAllen last year just voted in their very first Republican mater. His name is Javier Villa, the Lobos, they, one year later they gave Mara Flores in there. They also got Cassie Garcia coming up. If you guys haven’t heard of Casie Garcia, she’s another Republican woman in south Texas. Monica did LA Cruz has been getting a lot of momentum. I believe Monica and Cassie were in that were in that hit piece by the New York times actually. So that’s a good thing. That means that means they’re on the radar. And that means that the other side is very, uh, fearful of normal Hispanic women having regular conservative views. <laugh> I guess.

Sevan Matossian (09:48):

Oh well, wow. And I’m looking at Cassie Garcia’s, uh, Instagram account, Republican nominee for Congress, uh, point to John, Donald J. Trump.

Jorge Ventura (09:56):

I am very, very fascinated on what’s happening in south Texas with, with all these Hispanics, all of a sudden leaving a democratic party. And I don’t know, like I said, if I’m the G I go down there and do a guy case study,

Sevan Matossian (10:10):

It, it, it, it gives me, it gives me hope. It gives me, it gives me hope. This is gonna sound crazy. But the, the, uh, white man’s voice has been completely. If, if, if you wanna go look at people’s color, uh, has been completely silenced in this country. The one white man that can still talk is, and I, and I mean this, and I apologize to, to my commander in chief is, is semi retarded. Uh, his name is Joe Biden. Uh, and so it’s going to take people from a wide variety of, uh, ethnicities now and races to, to step up, to step up. What do you think about this, Jorge? It, it took me 10 years. It took me my whole entire forties to realize this. I’m not a God person. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and I’m not a gun person at all. Don’t like guns. Don’t believe in God. I need those people.

Sevan Matossian (11:04):

They’re a utility to society. They, they serve an enormous function. I want to live in an all Mormon neighborhood. I wanna live in a neighborhood with all Christians. Right. I want to live with people who like guns so that when, when they shut down our park over some bullshit, like COVID that those guys can go down there and be like, Hey, it’s like, you know what I mean? Like there’s some balance and power. I need those people. How come? How come, um, were you ever like that? Were you ever, were you ever on the left? Did you ever have the disease that I had where you were anti-gun and sort of, I used to be anti God now. I’m not now I’m pro God. I used to begun. Now. I’m like, yeah. Motherfuckers, people need to have that shit. No, I can. We’re gonna end up like Australia. Australians are always telling me like, how can’t, why can’t you see that it’s killing kids. It’s I do see that it’s killing kids. Right? I just, we need balance. I already saw what happens when things get out of power. We can’t ha we can’t risk it.

Jorge Ventura (12:03):

No, I, I actually completely relate to you. I wasn’t ever a big political guy when I was younger, but I was the listening to listening to like real gangster rap. I was like, anti-family kind of same thing, anti God. Anti-religion just anything. Right? All anti, all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And then as you obviously get older, you realize, look, you don’t have to be crazy about God. You don’t have to believe in God, but those people kind of hold this society. Right. Cause they actually have a moral cold. You

Sevan Matossian (12:28):

Might have code yes.

Jorge Ventura (12:30):

A moral cult. But a lot of people who don’t believe in God, you know, a lot of my friend, like it’s like 50, 50, right? You meet folks that do, and other folks are like, you know what? I don’t care. Like, I don’t care if I have kids. I’m, you know, Yolo. We all, we only live once you, you, you can’t have that. You gotta have the, uh, like you said, the balance, we need the, we, we need the guns. The, the thing about me is people outside of us don’t understand the whole gun thing. And the reason why, and this always happens is anytime there’s a mass shooting, I get contacted by like 50 different journalists from like Ireland, England, New Zealand. And they’re fascinating. They just don’t, they just don’t get it. And it’s like, if we didn’t have guns, we, we would be like you guys. I mean, I, I mean,

Sevan Matossian (13:09):

But when you say that they get so defensive, they don’t realize how, how, like now, now people like are starting to DM me from the Netherlands and Denmark and stuff. And they’re starting to realize, oh shit, here’s a great example that I gave someone today, the highest COVID rates in the history of this fucking, whatever you wanna call it are happening right now in Australia. How can that be? You spent the two year, two years with the strictest rules, you made a mistake, an enormous mistake. And now you’re paying for it with the widest spread of COVID ever, that didn’t happen in our country. Why didn’t have that happen in our country? Because we have certain freedoms that they can’t take away from us. And why is that? You could say it’s cuz we have guns. Right? You following that logic?

Jorge Ventura (13:51):

No, I, I I’m, I’m I’m 100% these guys, I mean, think about this. If it wasn’t for the guns, they, they would already kind of step on our faces, but they, they try to, you know, cuz we have guns, you have to do it with the illusion. Um, I always say like, we don’t even live in a, in a democracy. We live in like a, like, like a corporate autocracy. Right?

Sevan Matossian (14:06):

Well said

Jorge Ventura (14:08):

One, one of the interesting things I was listening to, um, uh, to an interview with Alex Jones and Imal technique, this was like years ago and imortal technique, you know, was, was making the case for no guns and was saying, oh, well, you know, the government doesn’t need to like send in a tank to destroy you. They could just, you know, turn your, turn your power off. It’s a great point. But look at, look at S uh, Sri Lanka right now, they shut their power off. They shut the fuel off. No one, there, there is armed. If they were armed, that guarantee you, the government wouldn’t do that. But now the masses in Sri Lanka actually woke up. And now they’re like, they’re like chasing the president out of his palace. They’re like swimming in his pool. They’re taking selfies in his office. He got this guy like jumping on a cruise ship to get outta Sri Lanka. So, um, I, you know, just, just pay attention around the world. I, I, you know, about, you know, one thing that I do is I always read news, um, around the world and I’m always fascinated in, in a, and I have to say, man, if it wasn’t for us being armed, the government would be fucking us like CRA. I mean, they already do, but it seems like

Sevan Matossian (15:05):

It would be like Denmark in the Netherlands in Australia.

Jorge Ventura (15:08):

And I mean, speaking Canada, speaking of guns really quick, the sad story that just came out. And I think it’s just a sad thing in our country. Is this the story of Jose, uh, Alba in, um, in New York, he’s the bodega worker where he had this, uh, tall black guy was like attacking him. I mean, I think he was by to kill him if he would’ve, he would’ve had his way. Jose grabs a knife and defends himself and stabs this guy, this guy dies the da charged Jose with murder. Um, so that’s a case that that’s been pretty popular. Yep. It’s right there. Um, that, that right there is, is highly disappointed because we’re, we’re getting to a point in our country where we say, okay, the DAS are gonna let the, let the criminals out. Um, we’re not gonna give up lengthy sentences, but if they attack you now, you can’t defend yourself. Cuz we’ll throw you in per I mean, what are we supposed to do with our society?

Sevan Matossian (15:58):

Is that gonna stick? Is that guy gonna be in trouble? Yeah.

Jorge Ventura (16:01):

Hey, keep this tab open really quick, bro. And I want you to look at another story where quick, cause this is really important. Think about this. Okay. Yep. Seventeens in Philadelphia just killed a seven, a 72 year old man with a, ah, I think it was like a traffic cone. Think about this seventeens gathered up on a, on a 17 year old man in the middle. Uh, I think it was like three in the morning and killed them would a, would a, would a would a traffic home. So I think about these two stories, right? I think about this old guy three in the morning, he’s walking home and these, he, these kids beat the crap. I mean, they beat him to death literally. Right? If he would’ve defended himself, would he would’ve gotten to prison? Like what do you do, man? Like do, is it, I mean, I guess you defend yourself and go to prison instead of just, you know, just die. I mean, what are we supposed to? I mean, that’s Philadelphia, New York city. I mean it, you, this is why we need guns. I mean, I, I, I don’t know how else to say it. Um, I really feel

Sevan Matossian (16:57):

By the way, these are all liberal cities. Uh,

Jorge Ventura (17:00):

And by the way, this just happened. These two stories are like a week old. This, this is not like three years ago. These are both. These stories are a week old.

Sevan Matossian (17:06):

Let’s not say a group of deranged, teenagers. Wait, what does that mean? Deranged,

Jorge Ventura (17:10):

Look how they’re laughing, man. Like, there’s something there’s there’s like when I watch this video, there’s something deeper rooted and evil where there’s something broken in American society for this is happening. I mean, dude, I don’t know about, about those kids. I’m raised with like old school Hispanic parents. My mom would murder me if I was out at three in the morning, dude. Right. Just for being out, just for being out. I don’t have to be

Sevan Matossian (17:34):

Doing wait. They’re fighting. Sorry to interrupt you where they’re fighting. He, he got arrested for stabbing this dude,

Jorge Ventura (17:41):

Dude for literally defending himself, dude.

Sevan Matossian (17:47):

Wow. Is that lady attacking too?

Jorge Ventura (17:50):

I think so, dude. I mean, this is insane. I mean, this is insane. What’s happening in America, man. Those two stories right there have been, have like really stood out to me this past week. I mean, it’s just, they come out cuz we’re talking about the issue of self-defense and look how one guy defend himself. They th they, they throw him in jail. The other guy doesn’t even defend himself cuz he’s outnumbered and they just brutally kill him. Those seventeens

Sevan Matossian (18:10):

Have someone’s grandfather. Someone’s dad. Someone’s brother.

Jorge Ventura (18:14):

That’s insane to me.

Sevan Matossian (18:16):

That guy should have died from COVID. Anyway, everyone over 70 is supposed to died from COVID. Oh, bad joke. Um, Jorge, we’re gonna make a big jump here. Shit in my book he’s he’s he’s the foremost expert on what’s going on at the border in terms of having, uh, uh, in per outside of maybe border patrol agents, um, of having, uh, eyes on the ground there and he reported, and I wanna check this number to make sure it’s correct with you that in the last six months, 3.5 million illegal immigrants have crossed the border from Mexico into the United States. Is that number accurate?

Jorge Ventura (18:50):

The, the, the, the 3.5 million is, is the total of, um, since Kamala and Joe Biden have been in office, which is an insane, the, the crazy thing about the 3.5 million is that’s the migrants that border border patrol agents encounter. They’re thinking that they’re thinking that we’re we have another million. This is the scariest, the God aways, because these, these people turned themselves in the God aways are, have already committed crimes in the us are either drug smugglers, cartel members. Most of the God aways are single men, you know, so, and they’re in the country undetected the other crazy stat too, since Joe Biden. I mean, I think just this is fiscal year. Uh, border patrol has encountered 50 men on the terrorist watch list. I mean, 50. I think they, they combined all the terrorists that they encountered in the border when Trump was in office. And I think it was like three. I think it was something very, I mean, basically just one fiscal year, Joe Biden is doing some insane stuff at the border. Um,

Sevan Matossian (19:49):

There’s I wanna show, I wanna show you some, do you think that that number’s right then in the last two years, do you think it’s safe to say 4.5 million?

Jorge Ventura (19:56):

Oh, absolutely.

Sevan Matossian (19:57):

Okay. I wanna show you something really crazy here. People contextual

Jorge Ventura (20:01):

Four, five, that 4.5 might even be conservative. That’s a, that’s a scary thing.

Sevan Matossian (20:06):

Hey, well, let’s, let’s, let’s do something crazy here. Let’s say they only catch half the people, which I think is fair, but let’s just say that and, and say we’re crazy. So that would be 7 million people in the last two years have come in and by catch, sorry, I don’t mean catch they’re not catching anyone make contact with that would mean that there’s only 15 states in the United States that have more people. That’s interesting, but, but, but I wanna read to you the states, let’s say it is just 3.5 million, Connecticut, Utah, Nevada, Iowa, Arkansas, Mississippi, Kansas, New Mexico, Nebraska, Idaho, West Virginia, Hawaii, New Hampshire, Maine Montana, Rhode Island, Delaware, South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Vermont, and Wyoming. All of those states have less people or the same amount as illegal immigrants have come into this country and had contact with border patrol,

Jorge Ventura (20:57):

Dude, that now when you dude, when you have it in person, the numbers, this is insane. I just saw Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico only has 3.1 mill population. We, we literally just led in Puerto Rico. I mean, we might have, what are we doing?

Sevan Matossian (21:10):

<laugh> it? Is it, it it’s, it’s FA it’s fascinating.

Jorge Ventura (21:14):

This is fascinating with these numbers. The one thing that I’ve always tried to tell people I’m like no other country in the world is doing this with, with a legal immigration. Why do we have to be the first? Why do we have to be the first like, test dumies on something that no one else has done? I mean, unbelievable man,

Sevan Matossian (21:34):

China, when we don’t, when we don’t contextualize stuff, we never know the numbers mean nothing to us. Right? If you don’t contextualize the numbers don’t mean shit. I wanna read to you the countries, some of the countries on the planet that have less people than we let in Uruguay, Mongolia, Jamaica, Armenia. I’m just going through Lithuania, Bosnia, Lavia, Estonia, Cypress. This is fun. Luxembourg.

Jorge Ventura (22:03):

We got more people than Fiji dude.

Sevan Matossian (22:06):

<laugh> Samoa Tonga.

Jorge Ventura (22:12):

Holy shit.

Sevan Matossian (22:13):

It’s it’s um, that’s contextualizing stuff. So important.

Jorge Ventura (22:18):

Unbelievable, man. It’s unbelievable.

Sevan Matossian (22:21):

How, how does that, uh, let me add this to it. One of the things, go ahead. Go ahead. I won’t forget. No, no,

Jorge Ventura (22:29):

I don’t wanna interrupt bro. But I, the, the kind of reason I wanted to come on is just because the night, the last, I would say month and a half have been an insane experience from the border for me, because may I flew to, uh, Texas, uh, may it was like 18th, 17th, and it was only for title 42. So just, just to kind of, uh, reminder for that,

Sevan Matossian (22:52):

Please explain that to us. Yes, please.

Jorge Ventura (22:54):

Yeah. Title 42 was a policy that Trump put in during the pandemic. It, it was called like a Corona virus emergency policy. And what title 42 gave is it gave the power to the Trump administration. Where if, if a migrant crosses illegally, because it’s the pandemic, you could immediately deport. ’em either back to Mexico or back to their home country.

Sevan Matossian (23:14):

Oh, so we treated them like the Australian street, their own citizens. Got it. Okay.

Jorge Ventura (23:18):

Yeah. Okay. So we had title 42. So I originally went to Texas to cover what we expected to be the end of that policy. Like it, Biden, Biden wanted to end it. The only thing that was holding in limbo was a federal judge that Trump appointed actually in Louisiana said, wait a minute, let me, let me take a look at this before, before I even give you guys the power.

Sevan Matossian (23:38):

So one quick question, Jorge, but they weren’t enforcing it for the last two years. Right? That’s how those 3.5 million got in

Jorge Ventura (23:45):

Exactly. I mean, they’re, they’re enforcing it, but like very, very, very little cause. Cause you gotta, cause the thing is Biden is in this weird situation right now where if you’ve used his title 42, his own voter base attacks him saying, why are you using a Trump error policy in deporting migrants? This is inhumane. And then on the other side, the right, the right just doesn’t think he even uses enough. So he’ll never make the right happy. So he’s in his weird, weird spot with title 42. So we go to Texas to cover. We, we presume it’s the end of that. Um, during my time I’m in like Mexico, we’re like traveling with huge migrant groups in the water, like crossing illegally into Texas. Like we’re, we’re following these groups.

Sevan Matossian (24:29):

The reason this is since may, this is when you went back in may.

Jorge Ventura (24:32):

Exactly. And, and the reason why this is also important that I wanted to highlight is the reason why we spent so much time on the Mexican side this time is because the governor Greg Abbott of Texas, he made four agreements with four different Mexican state governors. Back in April. Those agreements were very strict. He said, if you don’t stop the flow of drugs and illegal crossings, we’re gonna basically, uh, put in place a 100% vehicle commercial inspection. After those trucks leave, leave the port entry, which Mexico hates because it just creates long lines. It’s, it’s a, it’s a headache for Mexico, right? So the

Sevan Matossian (25:04):

Governor’s agreed. Isn’t that crazy? That’s the only leverage Greg Abbott has, Hey, you let too many of these motherfuckers to the border. We’re gonna cause a traffic jam in your country. It’s like, fuck anyway, go on. And any, and I saw you when you interviewed him and you questioned him on this by the way. And it was a great question. You, he, he avoided the question, but the best he could give you is he blamed Biden and he blamed the president of Mexico.

Jorge Ventura (25:26):

Yeah, exactly. So the, the, the reason why we’ve been trying to be kind of a, we’ve been pressing ABD is because he’s been touting the agreements with the Mexican government as a complete success. While we literally go to those, to the Mexican side and literally cross with the migrants, you’re talking about hundreds and what, what, what we learned through our sources in Mexico is the, the cartel and be nega, which is across Eagle pass is actually the state police there. So they facilitate and guide the migrants across legally through pay ne it’s all done. I mean

Sevan Matossian (25:58):

The state police

Jorge Ventura (25:59):

Through, through, through the state police. So we’ve been, we’ve been attacking AB and saying, you know, what are you gonna do to hold these governors accountable for not following your own agreement that, that you made with them. But, but that, that’s, that’s a kind of another point in this kind of whole thing. I just wanna mention real quick

Sevan Matossian (26:13):

Is let me clarify this. You’re saying that as they approach the border, let’s just make up an arbitrary number, 50 miles away as they enter this state of Mexico, that’s called Pedros

Jorge Ventura (26:25):

Pedros Nedo

Sevan Matossian (26:27):

Pedros Nedos as they approach that border. And they cross into that, that state of Mexico, those police help them then to the us American, uh, to the us Mexico board, like make sure they have water and shit like that.

Jorge Ventura (26:40):

What they do is they’ll lightly guide them. But the main thing they do is they don’t arrest them. So lemme just explain this for the audience. Cause I think a lot of people might be confused when I’m, when I, when I’m going here with this is getting a little brightness over here is, um, so a lot of these migrants, when they’re in, when they’re in Guatemala, they’ll then cross over illegally into Mexico. The first town they hit is called Chuah, Mexico. A migrant from, from Chuah cannot travel outside of Mexico because it’s considered illegal. Like they’re literally an illegal inside, um, inside, inside Mexico.

Jorge Ventura (27:20):

But what the Mexican officials do in PAC CULA is they get so overwhelmed with so much migrants coming. And also I think, I mean, they also do this on purpose is, is what they’ll do is they’ll give these migrants 30 day humanitarian visas, meaning they give these migrants a pass to legally travel through Mexico, to cross into United States illegal. So they give ’em basically a 30 day pass to cross in. So this all really begins guys in top Chuah. So they all get there. And legally they’re not even allowed to, to leave that you can’t, they can’t go past that. But the Mexican officials give ’em humanitarian visas with these visas. They’re allowed to legally travel and get to the border.

Sevan Matossian (28:03):

Look at that fucking journey, dude.

Jorge Ventura (28:05):

Yeah. So what they’ll do is now it’s all different with some of ’em bro, with some of them dudes, they’ll go from PAC CULA. They’ll get to Mexico city from Mexico city. They’ll get to Monterey from Monterey. They’ll get to the, uh, state called KU. That’s where I that’s, where you’ll find me. And we’ll be in peas, nega. Um, exactly. Yep, yep. Monte. Yep. And then we go, so you’ll find us. And normally right now we’ve been reporting in KU because that’s where they’ll, they’ll they’ll they’ll reach from KU. Then they’ll get to pays Negras, which is a crossing point into Eagle pass it’s uh,

Sevan Matossian (28:40):

Am I close? It’s

Jorge Ventura (28:40):

Pretty insane. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (28:42):

Is it, is it south of algo? What about Nevo Loredo?

Jorge Ventura (28:46):

I mean, they’re, they’re all major crossing points. It’s just that we’ve been, we’ve been concentrating on BES S because of just the amount that are coming through, it’s insane. And they’re coming by the hundreds, hundreds, every single day and night, Mexican officials are letting them pass through basically man, with the, with the agreement with Abbott, when those migrants even get to KU, they can’t even enter the state of KU, but they somehow magically always find a way, right? I mean, the Mexican officials are not arresting them obviously, or they’re not. Um, I mean, they’re not stopping them fully. They’re letting them into KU. And then from there, they’ll make it into pay that’s negative. So

Sevan Matossian (29:20):

Jorge, have you thought about going down there to the Guatemala border and doing the documentary where you travel, do the whole fucking trip with them and see what they oh yeah, yeah.

Jorge Ventura (29:30):

We’re we’re, we’re, we’re in talks right now. What, what we have done is we got,

Sevan Matossian (29:33):

That would be crazy, man.

Jorge Ventura (29:35):

Yeah. We, we got about 35 miles into Mexico in, in Iyes and then follow them 35 miles into, into Eagle pass. So think about this, bro. We’re we’re down there for, for,

Sevan Matossian (29:45):

By the way, I saw you almost drowned. I saw, I saw you. I wanna hear the details of that story. I saw your shirt was wet up to your fucking neck. I was like, what is this guy doing?

Jorge Ventura (29:55):

Yeah. So really quick. So, so when these, when these migrants cross, they jump in the real Grundy.

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