#476 – Jayson Hopper & Danielle Brandon

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam or live. He did awesome. So this is Kenneth. This is what it looks like. This is what it looks like. So I, um, I wake up every morning at 6:00 AM. Exactly. My alarm is set really, really low. I usually wake up at 5 56 anyway, but it’s, then I lay there for four minutes and do energy body try to catch myself like before my eyes open or anything, then finally it’s six. When the alarm goes off, I roll over. I turn it off, check on my kids. I turn on the coffee machine. I open the blinds. I open up my, uh, computer and, um, and turn on my printer and I start getting, uh, my notes ready to print. I send all my notes over to will Branstetter, uh, Matt Suza and Caleb just, uh, in case one of them is going to come on with me.

Sevan Matossian (00:46):

Then I, um, start drinking some coffee. And then I, uh, and while I’m doing that, I’m trying to go through an answer as many DMS as I can just really quickly, or at least reading them. Cuz people send me a lot of good stuff for my live calling show. So that’s when I get like a few minutes of that done, then I shower. And then here’s where it gets tricky. Cuz usually here I’m like now it’s about 15 minutes to both, uh, 20 minutes before the show starts. I get outta the shower, like at six 40. And the things I have to do now is I have to send a link to the guest. I have to ideally if I haven’t taken a shit yet, that’s when it’s like pressure shit time. Cause I like to shit before I, um, podcast, which is never a problem except on Mondays because I, I, I, it’s been over two years that I’ve been fasting.

Sevan Matossian (01:34):

I don’t eat on Sundays. Um, and uh, and so my shit just, I just have to be more patient. I have to do more deep breathing and then I usually get like a pebble or two and then I start and then, oh, then I come over here and I open, I, I, at about 10 minutes before the show starts, I come in my office, I set my coffee down. I set my notes down. I say a few words to SU and then I, um, now I’m getting really close and I’m starting to get anxious. Oh. And when I’m in the shower, I’m usually thinking of new questions and that starts stressing me out a little bit. Cause I’m like, am I now, am I gonna forget the questions before I can go over and write them down again?

Sevan Matossian (02:11):

And um, and at that point I start coming up with like some like some shit that I’m not even sure if I can ask, like, I’ve done a lot of talk about guys edging before like events, like not ejaculating. Like we had daring weeks on from the UFC. He said he doesn’t ejaculate three weeks before the event. And we’ve had a lot of guests talk about that. We had Jaguar hard on recently and I was thinking this morning in the shower was like, oh shit, I’ve never asked a woman if they refrain from orgasming before events <laugh>. And then I was like, do I have the balls to ask Daniel, Brandon that? So it’s like this whole, all that shit’s going on. And then there’s all these nuances too. Right. I want to come into my office and open the door so fresh air can come in.

Sevan Matossian (02:51):

But then I’m like, what if it gets too cold during the show and ruins the show for me? And there’s just like all these tiny, uh, but it’s, but it’s the same thing. It’s like this, uh, it’s like Groundhog day. And then I usually don’t like to start. I usually like to see the guests like pop up in our waiting room first and then I like to go live with them right at the, um, same time so that I don’t say anything to them. And you guys see the whole thing unfold and then I kind of have this rule. Don’t do any small talk. So like the things small talk today would be, um, oh congratulations. Uh, Jason, you made it to the games. Happy 4th of July, shit like that. And like the goal is like not to do that. And then Jason would pop on, I’d say I’d then I would be looking over here for the little red light to go on and I’d go, bam, we’re live and I’d go, Hey Jason

Mattew Souza (03:45):

Solid breakdown.

Sevan Matossian (03:46):

Yeah. And I do occasionally, like if I’m walking to my office and I saw that there was like, I have to walk by a little bit of lawn in my backyard and shit that can happen that can really throw me off as if I saw a dog poop out there. Cause then I’d have to run. I’d have to go run and get a poop bag and pick that up. That’s not very often, but like it does happen. And uh, cuz I’m pretty fastidious. I don’t like any poop or uh, thistle on the property, anything with thorns. Cause I want my everyone to be able to run around barefoot and uh, I’m trying to think of some other things. I feed my dog too. So after I come in, my dog will wake up, follow me in here. When I, the first time I come in to drop my notes off and set my coffee down.

Sevan Matossian (04:24):

Then when I go back out, I watch and she, if I see her take a piss, which is almost always, then I reward her with some, uh, food. And then I, and then I kiss my wife always before the show, even when she’s sleeping like this morning, I pulled the hair off her face and kissed her. It’s kind of like when I get on an airplane, I always touch the side of the airplane and say, I love you as I get, as I walk through the airplane, like, you know what the, you know, like right when you walk in through like you’re outside, I touch the outside of the plane. I said, I love you.

Mattew Souza (04:52):

Wait really?

Sevan Matossian (04:53):

Yeah, really?

Mattew Souza (04:54):

Oh, that’s so weird. I look at the, I look at the bolt at the outside of the plane, like as you board the plane from the terminal hall,

Sevan Matossian (05:02):

The bolts, like the rivets around the door, around

Mattew Souza (05:05):

Those, the door. Yeah. And I think, wow. At some point very shortly here, those are gonna be outside very high in the air. Very I hope they hold up.

Sevan Matossian (05:13):

Uh, I know it does sound like I’m superstitious. Right? I don’t know if that’s just routine. I don’t know if that’s the right word. And if my son ha, if my sons happen to be awake and my wife happens to be awake, which happens some mornings, at least once a week, they’ll say, um, uh, I’ll say to them, bye. And my sons will always say, don’t say bye. And so there’s this other thing going on right now too. I don’t know if you guys have an echo, but when the show’s over, I always take off my headset and I turn on my external speakers. And then I talk with SU we do a debrief or we laugh. We make fun of the guest or some shit <laugh> and, and uh, so then whenever I come back, my shit’s not set up. Right. So then I always have to come in here, switch the audio to my headset. I turn it on and Susan will say something and I won’t hear it and be like, oh, hold on, hold on. And then I’ll put it on and be like, what’d you say?

Mattew Souza (06:00):


Sevan Matossian (06:01):

And that’s uh, someone looks like Bo’s dad. Oh, that’s good. Someone told me yesterday. I looked like, yeah, someone told me yesterday. I looked like, um, Josh bridges.

Mattew Souza (06:14):

I think maybe it’s the, uh, go to stash

Sevan Matossian (06:16):

For sure. For sure. Not the nose. Good

Mattew Souza (06:19):


Sevan Matossian (06:19):

Thank you. Um, it’s funny. So for like three days, I had been texting Danielle, Brandon asking her to come on the show and I wasn’t getting a response. And you know, being the confident man that I am, I immediately thought, oh my God, she hates me. I’m on the outs. And uh, then last night she goes, I don’t know what time it was. 10 o’clock, nine o’clock.

Mattew Souza (06:43):

Yeah. A little bit later.

Sevan Matossian (06:44):

And she goes, okay, tomorrow.

Mattew Souza (06:47):

<laugh> <laugh>, that’s how it rolls with her.

Sevan Matossian (06:51):

You know, you know how you know your ballers when I’m just like, okay, cool. I’ll cut. Jason’s interview short by 45 minutes and bring her on.

Mattew Souza (06:57):

<laugh> like we got time.

Sevan Matossian (07:02):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Mattew Souza (07:05):

Speaking with Jason should be here any moment.

Sevan Matossian (07:07):


Mattew Souza (07:08):

He did. He did. We have been in contact. He did say he give me one second. So I dunno if something’s up with his computer, but he was testing his computer

Sevan Matossian (07:15):

Prior. I’m kinda excited that he has a computer.

Mattew Souza (07:18):

Didn’t he have one in the past or? No, he

Sevan Matossian (07:20):

Was always, I dunno. I don’t know. But most, I just feel like most of these cats are phone dudes.

Mattew Souza (07:23):

Yeah. There we go. There

Sevan Matossian (07:26):

We go. Oh my goodness.

Mattew Souza (07:29):


Sevan Matossian (07:29):

You fix his name to his Instagram handle? I

Mattew Souza (07:31):


Sevan Matossian (07:31):

Will. Thank you. Hey dude,

Mattew Souza (07:33):

What’s up? What’s

Jayson Hopper (07:34):


Sevan Matossian (07:35):

Oh my goodness.

Jayson Hopper (07:38):

It’s been a minute.

Sevan Matossian (07:39):

Is that vodka? Is that Titos and soda.

Mattew Souza (07:41):


Jayson Hopper (07:42):


Mattew Souza (07:43):

It going early.

Sevan Matossian (07:45):

Uh, so, so you put ice in your water and you put ice in your water.

Jayson Hopper (07:50):

We live right now.

Sevan Matossian (07:51):


Jayson Hopper (07:52):

I was sick. Yeah, of course I do.

Sevan Matossian (07:54):

So you, is it, um, is that your first drink that you’ve had this morning?

Jayson Hopper (07:59):

No, I got, uh, had a glass of milk.

Mattew Souza (08:02):

Mm-hmm <affirmative>

Jayson Hopper (08:03):

Cup of coffee.

Sevan Matossian (08:04):

Oh, I like it. I like it. Yeah. I totally, uh, indulge in multiple drinks too. You know what I mean? Like I have no problem having a coffee, a water, a milk, like all three, just out whatever I want. Like there’s no, I don’t have any rules on that. My people will be looking at me like, it’s go straight to, I have a coffee, a milk and a glass of wine, please. People be like, what? The, the fuck. I’m like, what? I mean, what? There’s rules to this shit.

Mattew Souza (08:29):


Jayson Hopper (08:31):

Water. Water’s the first drink? Um, like right. When you get outta bed, make your glass of water, then you get the coffee brewing kinda wake you up. The milk is for the breakfast. So it’s like, that’s the order

Sevan Matossian (08:43):

I used to at your age. I drank a lot. So I, when I was done, I would usually like drink like a 12 pack of Natty ice or something before I went to bed. And then first thing I would do when I’d wake up is just in a pint of water. I would just pour it in though. You know what I mean? Like just like just drink it just nonstop. Okay. Check that’s off the list. I’m now hydrating.

Jayson Hopper (09:08):

That’s kind of how I am without that though, with water

Mattew Souza (09:11):

Though, without,

Sevan Matossian (09:13):

Hey, and um, it’s nice to see you drinking out of cups too. Cuz in all the videos you see athletes, everyone’s drinking out of bottles.

Jayson Hopper (09:24):

Yeah. I normally take a bottle when I’m like outside, like my house.

Sevan Matossian (09:28):

Yeah. I mean I saw in the, um, I saw in the, uh, video, your semifinal video, Taylor had to come over and slap you around cuz you were fucking with this girl’s bottle.

Jayson Hopper (09:37):


Sevan Matossian (09:39):

In, in the semifinals video you had, you, you probably don’t remember. It was a couple months ago, but there’s a semifinals video and you see a water bottle on a jerk box and you see like, is this mine? And Taylor comes over all alpha and shit and puffy chips. Like you’ve been quarter, quarter,

Jayson Hopper (09:53):


Sevan Matossian (09:54):

Yeah. Yeah. Quarter final. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. He grabbed you by your ear and was like, listen motherfucker.

Mattew Souza (09:59):


Jayson Hopper (10:00):

Yeah, I remember that. That was funny. Um, there was a, it was a noble, the noble, um, Yeti cup, Yeti bottle.

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

I heard a, you drink out of noble, uh, uh, cups at lows. Your tea count. <laugh>

Jayson Hopper (10:12):

Dude, I just lost mine. So

Sevan Matossian (10:14):

I guess your tea count.

Mattew Souza (10:15):


Jayson Hopper (10:17):

My bottle. <laugh> I got one for, I got one from the semifinal. So I’m good though, dude. Those are the best though. The, the Yeti bottles with the low handle at the top,

Sevan Matossian (10:27):

My wife has one of those, like the fucking gallon. My wife has like the gallon size, like the $78 one. It’s ridiculous.

Jayson Hopper (10:32):

Oh no, I don’t have that one, but the normal size. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:38):

Um, this is what, this is a room in your house.

Jayson Hopper (10:41):

This is kind of like I live in a loft. So everything’s pretty open.

Sevan Matossian (10:44):

Yeah. It’s it’s narrow. Can you touch both sides of the wall? Like this go like this for me. Are you touching both sides?

Jayson Hopper (10:50):

No, not uh,

Mattew Souza (10:51):


Jayson Hopper (10:53):

Three feet away. <laugh>

Mattew Souza (10:55):

Your camera? That perspective looks good though. You got like the hallway going down behind you and stuff. Is that a new computer?

Jayson Hopper (11:01):

Uh, no.

Mattew Souza (11:03):


Jayson Hopper (11:04):

Yeah. I moved in, um, October of last, uh, year.

Sevan Matossian (11:09):

So I think we’ve done at least one podcast from that this house.

Jayson Hopper (11:13):

Yeah. I was in my bedroom that time. Remember that one?

Sevan Matossian (11:18):

They yeah. Yeah I do.

Jayson Hopper (11:21):

It was the one Danielle and I did.

Sevan Matossian (11:23):

Yeah. I have her coming on at 6 45, but I’m gonna push you off. So you guys don’t, you guys are like firing water.

Jayson Hopper (11:30):

You’re really gonna push me

Sevan Matossian (11:30):

Off. Yeah. Just do you wanna stay on?

Jayson Hopper (11:33):

Yeah, I’ll stay on.

Sevan Matossian (11:35):


Jayson Hopper (11:35):


Sevan Matossian (11:35):

Me. I have some pretty hardcore questions. I have some pretty hardcore questions for her.

Mattew Souza (11:40):

It’s good questions,

Sevan Matossian (11:42):

Man. Hers are gnarly. Yeah.

Mattew Souza (11:44):

Read through a few of those

Sevan Matossian (11:45):


Jayson Hopper (11:46):

<laugh>. You mean the most gnarly one?

Sevan Matossian (11:49):

Um, do you, well, I have a lot of questions about what it takes to court, her,

Jayson Hopper (11:55):


Sevan Matossian (11:56):

You know what I mean? Like how do you, how do you go on a, in the most gentle way? I could say it. How do you go on a date with her? If

Jayson Hopper (12:01):

She allows you to yeah, I think you almost gotta be a Dick

Sevan Matossian (12:07):

<laugh> to her. Yo for sure. For sure. Hey, that’s like the me that’s like the harshest thing. Jason Hopper’s ever said right there. <laugh> afterwards he’s gonna call up. He’s gonna call the church. Used to work out. Be like, was that okay? Jason, if you go to the bathroom and you only have to pee, but you want get some Instagram work done. Will you lower your pants and sit down

Jayson Hopper (12:30):

Dude, half the time. I’m I go to the bathroom? I sit down no matter what,

Sevan Matossian (12:34):

No matter. Wow. Wow.

Jayson Hopper (12:36):

Just needs a break.

Sevan Matossian (12:38):

I, I think you either have to be super alpha to do that. Like you just don’t give a fuck or you’ve started taking beta blockers. I’m gonna go with your super alpha.

Jayson Hopper (12:49):

I sit on the toilet for like an extremely long time, like probably a 15 minute average. Like

Sevan Matossian (12:57):

My wife does that too. It drives me crazy. If I look for my wife, I go to the bathroom. That’s the first place I go to look

Jayson Hopper (13:03):

For. Yeah. I’ll be like, I swear I was at a wedding on Saturday and it was like, I was around so many people for like the entire day and I was like, dude, I need a break. And I sat on the toilet for 20 minutes at the wedding. I just need to like get away and like sit. Um, it’s my safe place.

Sevan Matossian (13:21):

Are you, what do you, do you stress a little bit at um, at events

Jayson Hopper (13:28):

I get nervous.

Sevan Matossian (13:29):

I, I don’t mean because of the events. I mean the people.

Jayson Hopper (13:32):

Oh no, not really.

Sevan Matossian (13:33):

No, but the wedding, what, but you did need a break at the wedding.

Jayson Hopper (13:37):

Um, at, at an event I’m not really like

Sevan Matossian (13:40):

Exposed socially,

Jayson Hopper (13:40):

Like being talkative. I’m kind of like there for work and business.

Sevan Matossian (13:45):


Jayson Hopper (13:46):

So I’m like, don’t wanna talk to me and people understand that vibe.

Sevan Matossian (13:50):

I, um,

Jayson Hopper (13:51):

A wedding is like, uh, like most of the time I’m always answering questions about CrossFit. They’re like, when’s your next competition? Next person comes up to me. When’s your next competition is like constantly. Okay. I’m going to the bathroom.

Sevan Matossian (14:03):

<laugh> Hey, and do you try to, do you try to quickly ask them a question so you don’t have to talk and they’ll just talk?

Jayson Hopper (14:10):

Uh, yeah, like I know like if it’s a person I haven’t seen in like six months and I know what they’re gonna ask and it’s like, dude, I like try to talk about them. Like, dude, tell me about, I hear you. You, you, you, and then I’m gonna bathroom after

Sevan Matossian (14:25):

<laugh> I went, I went to this, I went to this event this weekend. It’s probably the it’s the first time I’ve been anywhere in a CrossFit type space in a, um, in, in years. Oh, that’s definitely, since I’ve started the podcast, I went to that street parking event. Yeah. And I, I didn’t expect, basically I went there and people were like, Hey, can you sign my shirt? Hey, it was just basically just people wanted to talk to me the whole fucking time. And I didn’t expect that. And I was with my kids and I was like very quickly overwhelmed. And finally my like, after like being there 20 minutes and kind of being bombarded, my, and I was, I, I wanted to be nice. I was just overwhelmed. Had nothing to do with them. I just couldn’t handle it. My wife says to the people, where are you from? I was like, oh fuck. That’s what I’m gonna do. <laugh>

Mattew Souza (15:08):

Get some questions going.

Sevan Matossian (15:10):

Yeah. I’m asking you fucking questions.

Mattew Souza (15:12):

It’s the slowdown

Sevan Matossian (15:13):

Fucking an I don’t, I don’t fucking want to like answer any of these questions. I don’t know. Stop. Yeah,

Jayson Hopper (15:17):

Dude. The worst. The worst is when the worst is when they, they try, they try to have a conversation with you, but they really don’t understand what you do. Like,

Sevan Matossian (15:25):

Like when you asked Eddie, if, if he’s a comedian. Oh, that hurt. <laugh> that hurt. I wasn’t cool, dude. That hurt.

Mattew Souza (15:32):


Jayson Hopper (15:33):

You, you remember that?

Sevan Matossian (15:34):

I just fucking watched it last night.

Jayson Hopper (15:36):


Sevan Matossian (15:37):

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Watched it last night.

Mattew Souza (15:39):

That’s so cool.

Jayson Hopper (15:40):

That was a year ago.

Sevan Matossian (15:41):

Yeah. Six. Well, I saw it published six months ago on YouTube. Okay. Go ahead. So tell me when people don’t know what you do. Give an example.

Jayson Hopper (15:48):

Like I know I, I work out for a living, but they don’t know like what cross it is. Yeah. They’ll ask questions. Like, like how much you bench like that they think I make a career off benching and like squatting and like that kind of stuff.

Sevan Matossian (16:02):


Jayson Hopper (16:02):

I’m just like, no, like I kind of do some running some

Mattew Souza (16:06):

<laugh> like growing swimming.

Jayson Hopper (16:08):

Hey. Yeah. Like it’s, it’s, it’s so hard. The hardest conversation. Is it trying to explain what I do for a living to someone who has no concept of what CrossFit is?

Mattew Souza (16:18):


Sevan Matossian (16:20):

I, I I’m, I never thought this thought of this before, but what if you just said it’s racing. I race,

Mattew Souza (16:26):


Jayson Hopper (16:26):

Racing. You don’t under, they’re gonna ask questions about that. Like dude, like you,

Sevan Matossian (16:31):

The word

Jayson Hopper (16:32):

You wanna explain it in a way that leaves no questions asked that they just like, okay, nod your head and like move on from a conversation.

Mattew Souza (16:38):

So at this point, do you have a script? Like, do you have your go to, because you know, someone’s gonna ask it, do you, are you just like, okay, hold on down.

Jayson Hopper (16:45):

It depends on the, on the level of their knowledge of the sport. So it’s like, they, they are a friend. So they have like a better idea of what I do. But if it’s like a family member who like, I’m really close with, they’re like older and they have like no idea. And it’s kind of like, yeah, I do some running, some jumping, some, some of that kind of stuff.

Sevan Matossian (17:04):

I like it. If they’re older,

Jayson Hopper (17:06):

If they’re older, they’re like, yeah. Like

Sevan Matossian (17:09):

How old?

Jayson Hopper (17:09):

My uncle, my uncle.

Sevan Matossian (17:11):

How old is your uncle?

Jayson Hopper (17:13):

50. 60 years old.

Sevan Matossian (17:15):

Damn it. Hey, like, like the kind of guy where you’re you would never use the word airdrop. Like if you took a picture and he’s like, can I have that? You’re like, yeah, hold on. I’ll go print it out. You’re never like, Hey, let’s airdrop.

Jayson Hopper (17:25):

<laugh> yeah, exactly.

Sevan Matossian (17:26):

Oh, fuck.

Jayson Hopper (17:29):


Mattew Souza (17:31):

Hey nod. Be cool. If you get you like, um, people over to H WPO and have ’em cut you just like a 32nd little bumper on what you do with like Roy MCIR narrating in the background and then people go, you just hit the button and you just play it for him. And then that way you got your script all set up.

Sevan Matossian (17:46):

This is Jason Hopper in his normal habitat. No. See Jason jump. See Jason lift.

Jayson Hopper (17:55):

I need to do that. That’s a good idea.

Mattew Souza (17:57):

Yeah. Just little breakdown, you know?

Sevan Matossian (17:58):

Hey, was that blast for me? That he said Roy McCan’s name and H WPO in the same sentence. <laugh>

Jayson Hopper (18:05):

I need to get these comments on. Normally when I was on these podcasts, I don’t have the comments on

Sevan Matossian (18:10):

You don’t want them on or off? No, you, no, you don’t need them on what are you talking about? You don’t

Jayson Hopper (18:14):

Need them on. People are saying, Hey, I need to respond.

Sevan Matossian (18:19):

Oh, this guy just said, is Jason, are you gay? Can I sign up for your fans? Only page.

Jayson Hopper (18:24):

This one person said he ISN’ alpha. His coffee says his

Mattew Souza (18:27):


Sevan Matossian (18:28):

Damn. That’s good. Yeah. You read the comments. Maybe we’ll have you work on the show. Dude.

Jayson Hopper (18:33):

I got, I got, I got this coffee mug from my wedding. It was like, we both got his and hers, dude. Come on that man.

Sevan Matossian (18:39):

Come on. I didn’t know you were a pronoun guy. That’s cool. I I’m gonna check that out on your Instagram profile. I didn’t know that. That’s cool. It’s interesting. I dunno if it’s cool. It’s interesting,

Jayson Hopper (18:47):


Sevan Matossian (18:48):

It’s not worthy

Mattew Souza (18:51):


Sevan Matossian (18:55):

Uh, I don’t even know what pronouns are. Leave me alone. Three 15 to 3 37.

Jayson Hopper (19:06):


Sevan Matossian (19:06):

That’s your, your bench went up from three 15 to 3 37. That’s huge. Three

Jayson Hopper (19:13):


Sevan Matossian (19:14):

To 3 37.

Jayson Hopper (19:15):

Where’d you get a three 15 number?

Sevan Matossian (19:16):

You said it. Frank came outta your pie hole.

Mattew Souza (19:20):


Sevan Matossian (19:20):

Uh, I, some video I watched last night, quarter finals or, or semifinals or full finals. Oh, like holy shit. I, I did bench 3 37. My previous PR was three 15.

Jayson Hopper (19:30):

Yeah. I hit three 15 when I played football.

Sevan Matossian (19:32):

Yeah. It’s crazy.

Jayson Hopper (19:34):

Yeah. I didn’t know. I could do 3 37. I was pretty shocked.

Sevan Matossian (19:38):

What, why do you think it went up? Uh, 40? No, no, no, no, no. 15 plus 7 22 pounds. Without focusing on bench, press

Jayson Hopper (19:50):

Grown, man. Strength.

Sevan Matossian (19:52):


Mattew Souza (19:53):

Grown man. Strength. Do you bench a lot?

Jayson Hopper (19:56):

Getting that daddy strength, dude. I got a dog. I got a dog now. Oh.

Mattew Souza (19:59):

Oh. I thought thought we could have some breaking news on here, but you said dog. I thought you said daughter. I thought

Sevan Matossian (20:06):

You using contraception. Jason, what are you using? Contraception.

Jayson Hopper (20:10):

What’s that? You

Sevan Matossian (20:11):

Mean? That’s like stuff to stop the sperm from getting to the egg. A goalie. Yeah.

Jayson Hopper (20:16):

Yeah. She’s on birth control.

Sevan Matossian (20:17):

Oh. Oh you gotta get her off that shit. Didn’t you see that? Don’t you

Jayson Hopper (20:21):

We’re trying to, we’re trying to, um, learn how she like cycles off that kind of stuff.

Sevan Matossian (20:25):

Yeah. Yeah. Religious people. That’s like part of like, aren’t you Catholic go to the Catholic church. That’s like one of the things they teach the women there. How to time your ovulation.

Jayson Hopper (20:32):

Yeah. We’re gonna do that, but we’re not Catholic. So we’re don’t we don’t do that with them.

Sevan Matossian (20:37):

She, she has to take, take her temperature every day and write it down. And then if there’s a fluctuation, actually I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t give her advice. She should get pregnant. If I give her advice

Mattew Souza (20:44):


Jayson Hopper (20:46):

Do you end up at two of ’em? We have some, we have so many friends that kind of like did this and they messed up and they’re their like parents. So it’s kind of like, dude,

Sevan Matossian (20:53):

<laugh> right here. Right here, baby. Right here.

Jayson Hopper (20:57):

I hear, I hear way more like failures in success, stories than that. So we’ll find out

Mattew Souza (21:02):

It’s actually a trick by the women. That’s how you have a kid

Jayson Hopper (21:06):


Jayson Hopper (21:08):


Sevan Matossian (21:09):

You, you should be in charge of, uh, taking the pictures. Hey, has your body composition, what’s your body composition? How has that changed since you did football?

Jayson Hopper (21:17):


Sevan Matossian (21:18):

Smaller ways, bigger ways, bigger shoulder, smaller shoulders.

Jayson Hopper (21:21):

I think I’m, um, the same. Did it have like 3%, 4% body fat. So it’s kind of hard to lose fat. I think I really I’ve been doing a lot of, uh, upper body stuff since, um, I played football. So I think people would say like I got broader shoulders, so I don’t really see that though. But

Jayson Hopper (21:43):


Mattew Souza (21:43):

Would, how much you weigh right now?

Jayson Hopper (21:45):

Uh, two 20. I weigh two 20 when I play ball too. So dude, I can’t lose weight to save my life, dude.

Sevan Matossian (21:53):

Do you wanna,

Jayson Hopper (21:56):

Uh, not maybe like two 15 would be fun, but

Sevan Matossian (22:00):

You’re so Le you’re so lean. Yeah,

Jayson Hopper (22:02):

Exactly. I can’t like I can’t, I can’t get there.

Mattew Souza (22:05):

Yeah. I’m like where would the five pounds go?

Sevan Matossian (22:08):

You you um, you don’t look big though. You know what I mean?

Jayson Hopper (22:11):

OK. 5% body fat people are saying three three’s kind of abnormal. Five to six Abby.

Sevan Matossian (22:19):

Oh God. Look at Hiller bullying you from now. He’s gonna make a video about you about how you lied about your body fat. <laugh> Jason Hopper.

Mattew Souza (22:28):

Can’t say shit.

Jayson Hopper (22:30):

Yeah, dude.

Jayson Hopper (22:31):

He’s dunno what body fat is. It’s it’s dude. It’s in, it’s under, it’s definitely. I’m 100%. And sir it’s under seven. I’ve been tested, not nine dude. Not nine

Sevan Matossian (22:46):

<laugh> eight, either. Jason Parker’s like 10 fat boy. Hello,

Jayson Hopper (22:52):

13 bro. Hiller. I will bet you money that it’s lower than 13.

Sevan Matossian (22:55):

I’ll be, Hey, I’ll bet you that you I’ll bet you it’s lower than 13 two. And that the be is you can’t make a video for a week. Oh fuck. He would fucking explode. Talk about edging. That would be edging for Hiller.

Jayson Hopper (23:06):


Jayson Hopper (23:08):

Make a video. Hiller

Sevan Matossian (23:13):

Is um, how has, um, since Taylor has, uh, had his minor setback, how has he changed?

Jayson Hopper (23:21):

What’d you

Sevan Matossian (23:21):

Say? Thinking of edgy. How has Taylor changed since he’s had that minor setback? Is it, is it, is it different being around him? Is he more uptight? Is he angrier?

Jayson Hopper (23:29):

Uh, no. He is pretty, he is been handling really good. Um, I think he’s been, um, and um, killing time with his, his new programming. So staying busy, just kind of finding that, those things that like fill his CrossFit void. So

Sevan Matossian (23:46):

Do you think he’s bossy,

Jayson Hopper (23:49):

Dude? He hates people, bro.

Sevan Matossian (23:51):

<laugh>. Is that what it is? Okay.

Mattew Souza (23:53):


Jayson Hopper (23:54):

What tell you he’ll be like, dude, I don’t like people I’m like, bro, we don’t like you

Mattew Souza (23:59):


Sevan Matossian (24:00):

He he’s he’s I, as, as I build a relationship with him, um, he’s really bossy. It’s always like, oh, we’re doing a podcast Wednesday and Friday at five 30. I’ll see you then. Or uh, I need this or, and I’m just like, yo, yo, yo. I mean he’s alpha is a motherfucker.

Jayson Hopper (24:16):

He really is. He just sent me a text message. Um,

Sevan Matossian (24:19):

Yeah, let’s do it. Let’s hear it. I mean

Jayson Hopper (24:21):

10 30, take my ID off your YouTube in the, in the quarter, in the quarter finals video that we like, he showed his ID.

Sevan Matossian (24:29):

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Driver license. Yeah,

Jayson Hopper (24:32):

That was dude. That was quarter. That was months ago. Dude. He’s gonna text me at 10 30 and say, pay my ID off your YouTube. I didn’t respond. Cause I was sleeping. And then literally four minutes later he emphasizes the message. I’m like, dude,

Sevan Matossian (24:45):

Hey, I say it’s because I sent text

Jayson Hopper (24:47):

Nobody’s nobody’s watching that video anymore. You sent him a text message

Sevan Matossian (24:50):

Last night. I go, oh my last night I go, Hey dip shit, your fucking IDs on fucking the quarter finals video. Oh Jason’s quarter final video.

Mattew Souza (24:59):

That’s like,

Sevan Matossian (24:59):

I go, I’m no fucking master criminal, but that can’t be good.

Mattew Souza (25:03):

<laugh> Hey, you know why?

Jayson Hopper (25:05):

Scared of you scared him the death

Sevan Matossian (25:07):

Man. Hey, so, so I was thinking about it. How, how fucked up it is to try to fix that because there’s no way you wanna pull it down and re but you know what you could do. You couldn’t listen. No, no, no, no. Hopper needs to make coin off that. And um, there is a tool inside of YouTube where you could clip that. It’s just one second.

Jayson Hopper (25:28):


Sevan Matossian (25:28):

Mm-hmm <affirmative> you could clip it if you gave a shit.

Mattew Souza (25:33):

Looks like he does not <laugh> but he was like, he like, you’re giving him instructions and he’s like reading other texts. He’s like, yeah, yeah. Clip out. I’m like,

Jayson Hopper (25:41):

No problem. I’m reading the comments and trying to stay up to date. They’re still on my body fat. I really, I really piss people off with that.

Sevan Matossian (25:50):

You’re um, you’re going to the games.

Jayson Hopper (25:53):

Yeah, dude. You’re too.

Sevan Matossian (25:56):

It’s dope.

Jayson Hopper (25:57):

Are you going to the games?

Sevan Matossian (25:58):


Jayson Hopper (25:59):

Come on, dude. Dude, I, I actually watched your, uh, the documentary you made from however long ago.

Mattew Souza (26:06):

Every second count.

Jayson Hopper (26:09):

I don’t know. I was watching something CrossFit wide.

Sevan Matossian (26:12):

Oh, with, uh, O P T John. Wellborn the one where they

Jayson Hopper (26:16):

Worked out dirt

Sevan Matossian (26:16):

At the ranch.

Jayson Hopper (26:17):

I have no idea.

Sevan Matossian (26:19):

Really had a last

Jayson Hopper (26:20):

Was. It was

Sevan Matossian (26:22):

Last impact on

Jayson Hopper (26:22):

You. I was at, I was at, uh, Jr’s house and he had it on the background and I was like, dude, that’s Sivan dude. It was when it was in your prime

Sevan Matossian (26:31):

<laugh> oh no. Oh, oh no. Yeah. My, my bench, uh, is my bench has not gone up, uh, 22 pounds. I’ve been fucking around with the bench again, uh, lately. And it has, it has, uh, it’s gone, gone backwards. What were you guys doing in Vermont

Jayson Hopper (26:55):

This last time?

Sevan Matossian (26:56):

Yeah. Why, why, why have down pepper up there? I appreciate, I think you guys shouldn’t have him up there and head fuck him. I know you guys are just trying to head fuck him.

Jayson Hopper (27:05):

It was just healthy competition. Kind of get the, the racing mode, know the, just get ready. Um, cause healthy for who I train, I train alone, you know, mm-hmm <affirmative> so it’s like, I need that just a week or two to go up there and like be in race mode and have healthy competition.

Sevan Matossian (27:24):

Why can’t you be in race mode with ma doesn’t she live up there?

Jayson Hopper (27:28):

Well, it’s kind of different because she, we do like different workouts, like different weights or, I mean, she’s gonna crush me and most of the stuff, because the, the weight variations are a little bit different

Sevan Matossian (27:38):

Because she has a, her cut

Jayson Hopper (27:40):


Sevan Matossian (27:41):

Cause she has a, her haircut.

Jayson Hopper (27:43):

Sure. Um, plus she beats me on most things, so I kind of it’s pretty hard.

Sevan Matossian (27:51):

It was, it was you, uh, D pepper, Danielle, Brandon and ma O’Brien.

Jayson Hopper (27:56):


Sevan Matossian (27:57):

No, just you guys.

Jayson Hopper (27:59):


Sevan Matossian (28:01):

Um, what’s interesting is that I saw, I remember, um, when I had you and Danielle Brandon on last about nine months ago, she said, Hey, I’ll be coming up there and training too. And you said, yeah, I know. And she goes, no, you didn’t know that. And you guys have a little back and forth and you’re like a hundred percent new. So she, so even back then she knew. But was that her first trip up there to Vermont?

Jayson Hopper (28:22):

Yeah, I think so. Hmm. She had been, I think she’d been planning on going up there, like for a whole year now, but I don’t think she, I think she was dealing with some back issues that kind of like didn’t she didn’t wanna go up there being like unhealthy.

Sevan Matossian (28:39):

And, and what was it like? What was it like between you and down up there?

Jayson Hopper (28:43):

It was good, man. Um, we went head to head, like I don’t have, I don’t have too much like, um, history competing against him. So I, we only did water blues together. So I went up there thinking like, all right, this could like really F up, like going into the games. Like if he smashes me in every single workout, then that’s not gonna put me in a, not good of a head space going into the, you know, Madison. Um, so I was kind of like hesitant at first, but then, um, just talking to like O’Keeffe and Matt, just like, Hey, this is a great idea. Matt did this a couple times. Um, when he was, you know, training for the games and just it’s healthy, we can like, if, if he crushes me in every single workout, then we know what we need to work on going into Madison. And if I beat him in every single workout, then I have a bunch of confidence going into Madison. So it’s kind of a win-win situation. If you look at it in that perspective. So

Sevan Matossian (29:37):

Did he bring Matt Torres up there?

Jayson Hopper (29:40):


Sevan Matossian (29:40):

He came alone.

Jayson Hopper (29:42):

Well, he came with Danielle and his wife.

Sevan Matossian (29:45):

Oh. But Danielle, but, but Danielle came from Vegas. She and, and she came with Justin Cotler too?

Jayson Hopper (29:50):

No, she was in, uh, Miami, not Miami, um, Naples. Naples.

Mattew Souza (29:54):

Yeah. I think she was staying there for a while in Florida. So Instagram.

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