#469 – Last Chance Qualifier Show

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Terrible more live.

Taylor Self (00:02):

Okay. Well, I ate one once and shit and threw up at the same time.

Sevan Matossian (00:06):

Really? There’s a pepper. Seriously.

Taylor Self (00:09):

It burned the endings in my esophagus, me and my best friend, Jake brought ’em over to my house and he is like, he said, they’re dried. They’re not as hot. And I didn’t know anything. And I ate this pepper and then immediately went into like esophageal shock and went into my bathroom and diarrhea and threw up at the same

Sevan Matossian (00:28):

Time. <laugh> wow. It’s called a Carolina Reaper

Taylor Self (00:31):

So bad.

Sevan Matossian (00:33):

Hey, I was at this, um, I would this, someone, this friend of mine did this crazy cock block. Move on me one time, just crazy. And a couple days later, we were at a party together and I ran to the store to get some drinks. And when I was at the store to get some drinks, it was a supermarket and there was this huge pile of jalapeno peppers, no hopping, Euro peppers, ho and Euro peppers. And I took some and I put ’em in my pocket and I knew I was gonna bring him back to the party. And some somehow sabotage his drink. Well, about 20 minutes later, my cock ball started burning a little bit because just the ho and arrows in my pocket were kind of seeping through. And then I quickly took him out and I squeezed them around the rim of his beer, his wine glass or whatever. I taught him, try to cock block me. Why, why, why would there ever need to be a last chance qualifier? Is it, is it because there’s concern that the semifinals didn’t choose the best people, is it to make money? Is it to make the season more exciting? Why do we need this event right now? What is the purpose of the last chance qualifier or as the, the bourgeois say LC Q Taylor. You wanna take that?

Taylor Self (01:54):

Yeah. I think the main reason in my eyes is that you have some of these regions that right now don’t have the spots allotted for how much talent they have north America is one that you can look at Australia or Oceana’s another, you can look at. Europe’s potentially one you can look at in some of the fields, but you have a Divi, you have a field like the north American men, uh, where it is just so top heavy, um, six through eight are arguably better than a lot of, you know, not a lot of, but some qualifiers in other areas. And so this is, this is to just give these guys another shot.

Sevan Matossian (02:32):

So, so we know that the choosing process isn’t perfect and there’s no way to make it perfect. So we have another event to help, to help fix where we made errors. But even though how many years Brian, do you think that, um, not enough people have been coming from Oceana Australia. How many years has that been going on? You think the last two? The last two. Okay. And, and so it’s a little, um, it’s a little disappointing if Taylor’s answer is correct. And because his, his, his, an, his answer is so that, um, people who slip through the cracks might be able to make it in these, in these heavy, uh, regions that they didn’t know were heavy, but they’ve known for two years, that Australia is heavy, that, that more people deserve to go.

Brian Friend (03:19):

Well, they, I mean, they used to have five spots in the oceanic or Pacific region before that. And the gen in general, the performers from there have done fairly well, uh, in particular, on the women’s side and with the re allotment of placements for the games, uh, starting the semifinal, you know, format to, or last year, um, they gave ’em three spots based on their open registration. You know, it’s very, very obvious on the women’s side, why that’s a problem. However, the first year we didn’t get to see the, the problem because Tia competed in north America, uh, due to travel limitations, Jamie Simmons did not participate in that year because of injury. And so you had Karara who dominated, and you had Laura Clifton and ally Turner who got in Ali. Turner’s obviously an up and comer in the space. Laura Clifton did. Okay.

Brian Friend (04:05):

Last year, she was good in semifinal. She chose to compete on a team this year because Tia and Jamie were back in the equation. And you still have Maddie Stewart who were gonna I’m sure. Talk about tonight. And, you know, Matt St. Ellie Turner, Jamie Simmons carons and Tia, Claire Toomi could very easily all finish in the top half of a games field, even if the best 40 women in the, if in the field were in the games. Actually, if the best 40 women in the world were in the games, I don’t think Matt Stewart or, uh, this version of Jamie Simmons or Ellie Turner would finish in the top half of the field, but with the field that we have now, they all definitely could.

Sevan Matossian (04:42):

And we can’t, for some reason, keep Matt SU or Jr attached to the show. I just keep watching them come and go. They must be having some sort of internet, uh, issues, uh, lucky camera straps. I was at Torian live and the talent there was crazy, more spots needed. Also great to see the thumb back, love these podcasts. That’s you Taylor, if you didn’t know your nickname crazy, I didn’t know that. Great, great to, uh, see you back. This is the only, the second time they’ve done the last chance qualifier. Now we know, um, why we have it. Do you guys like this, do you think it should have been brought back?

Brian Friend (05:19):

Look, I like it in the current way that the semifinals is formatted. It’s good to have it. And all you have to really do is look at the four people who made it last year. You know, you had Roman Koff who qualified and couldn’t compete. He probably would’ve done well at the games. You had Alexander Corone who had a, I would say, a subpar performance for himself at the games. He got second place at guap ALZA. He didn’t end up making the top 20 last year, but he’s de you know, definitely competitive in the games field. And on the women’s side, you had Cyramo, O’Connell finished eighth Andal who also made the top 20. She didn’t do great within the top 20, but they both made the top half of the games field coming out of the L CQ. I’m pretty confident we, you know, start looking at this list here, uh, particularly depending on who ends up getting in that will have similar relevance at the games level, uh, this year.

Brian Friend (06:06):

So there are good athletes in this field that are certainly capable and worthy of being in the games, um, field com you know, when that rolls around, I do think there are other ways to get top level, you know, a, a more breadth on depth of top level athletes into the field without the last chance qualifier, but in the current system, I do like it because it does give the opportunity for the regions that are not really represented based on their competition history, the way that they could be a chance to get an extra person in,

Sevan Matossian (06:34):

Uh, gimme an example. Can you do that? Gimme a quick example of what it would look like to have something besides last chance qualifier.

Brian Friend (06:41):

Well, I think that in, you know, I don’t wanna assume too many changes, but I think that one change that you could make is you could condense the semifinals. And I talked about this before the semifinals to two weeks uniform the programming, and maybe you have something like this in both weeks, you have two north American semifinals, and each week you have one European semifinal, probably the two, you know, you, then you would balance out the other four. So you’d have Victorian with South Africa or Africa, which are probably the strongest and weakest of the remaining two. And then you have Asia and south America as the other two. So you have five and five relatively balanced, um, with north American and Europe easily distributed. And the other two, you go one in four, two, and three, based on their performances in that week, you know, the game spots can be distributed. We can talk about the distribution of those, but everyone gets the spots that are distributed to them. And then the, you know, depending on how you wanna do it, the one or two other best performers that week on the same workouts in the same order, in the same format, get through,

Sevan Matossian (07:40):

Ah, I was wondering where you’re going with that. I’m like, huh, maybe Brian didn’t understand the question. Okay. So I, so I like that, that, and that, do you like that Jr. What do you think about that? Uh, a uni, if they were all uniform, all the semifinals, then, then we could just, um, the, the, the two best scores, there could be some way of picking who the, the two best were from all of those semifinals who didn’t make it and they get to go, which, yeah, I love that. Yeah. It’s interesting. Uh,

JR Howell (08:11):

Yeah, like I like the idea of, you know, like, I like the idea of having the, like the top three from all the in person competitions, but then the rest of the field being filled comparatively for all the semi-finals stacking as, as if they were at the same one.

Taylor Self (08:26):

Yeah. That’s a good, well, I think that’s just another argument to be made for the standardized programming. On the one hand, it takes away some of the, uh, flash and cloud of running a semi-final for the event, organizers, you know, it takes away a lot of the incentive. You don’t get to be creative and kind of stru your stuff, but at the same time, I think to get the 40 best men and women, it makes more sense to have all the tests standardized.

Sevan Matossian (08:50):

Yeah. It’s good. And then just get rid of the last chance caller. Do you guys actually like that better?

Taylor Self (08:56):

I like that better than the L CQ. Yeah, it’s a, I mean, the, the other thing is this, the last chance qualifi is great for the people who are getting another chance, but these guys and gals are, they’ve been run through the grinder up to this point in the season. And now it’s just another, you gotta get up for another event.

Sevan Matossian (09:11):

Um, I don’t know what, I don’t know what PMI premium services is, but thank you. Uh, do you, do you like it, uh, Jr. Are you, are you, would you like it better if we got rid of the last chance qualifier and we, and we just had everything standardized and we took, took the guys who were the best outside of making it in their region, like Brian stated.

JR Howell (09:28):

Yeah. I mean, I, I mean, I like the idea that it is giving some of the really, really high level competitors that maybe had one mess up out of six workouts, or, you know, maybe were sick or had allergies or something like that to give ’em one more chance to prove how fit they are, but it just feels like we’re really drawing it out. And I, I don’t know that, I mean, I kind of think it would be a cool idea and I think it would do a lot for the showmanship of it when they announced the top five to immediately go over to the last chance spots and say, Matt Degos, will you accept your invite, Nick Matthew, will you accept your invite? And then we know right. Then who’s doing it and who’s not doing it make ’em go ahead and decide right then. So there’s not the suspense of wondering if we’re gonna have a full field in the last chance we’re waiting all the way up to the deadline to see if some people sign up.

Sevan Matossian (10:18):

I, I do wanna say this. Um, I did not, is, is Christy. Arao the highest placed last chance qualifier last year out out the two at the games. Yeah, she was eight. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that’s extremely respectable. I think that does legitimize the last chance qualifier as bringing in people who are highly competitive and they didn’t just end up at the bottom of the shit can. So I think it does. It is it, it does offer some validation,

Taylor Self (10:44):

But so does Alexander Corona even,

Sevan Matossian (10:46):

I mean, even what place did he take?

Taylor Self (10:48):

I think he was 20,

Sevan Matossian (10:50):

25th or

Taylor Self (10:51):

Sixth. Yeah. Which still he beat 14 people who qualified out through a semifinal.

Sevan Matossian (10:56):

Right. I’m I’m, I’m guessing the bottom for, uh, I mean, there’s always, oh, you’re gonna make me do this. Taylor. There’s always the two guys who qualify from those regions.

Sevan Matossian (11:07):

They don’t count. And then there’s gotta be a couple guys that got hurt. So I give ’em top 10. Maybe it’s our bottom 10, maybe Michael C 4 99. Thank you. Next time. Put a question in there. I feel bad taking your money. Not, not really. No, I don’t. Okay. <laugh> uh, uh, another question I got for you guys before we dig in here, why I don’t care if they repeat the movement two, I have two questions about movements. I don’t care if they repeat the movements. Like I really don’t care. Like why, why can’t this just be its own test? Who cares if it’s the same shit from the semifinals or the quarter finals or from the open? Why, why can’t they be? Um, just, I, I feel like when I read and listen to what you guys say in threads and in articles and in other podcast, there’s this like poo-pooing, if the movements come up twice, I don’t get why that is.

Taylor Self (11:59):

Oh, I haven’t said one negative thing about any of the movements that showed up.

Sevan Matossian (12:03):

Not, not that, that they, the ones that showed up, but if they were repeat movements, I feel like you guys put a premium on

Brian Friend (12:09):

To Taylor is like, these athletes have all been through the quarter finals and the semifinals, and they had to test rope climb in the quarter finals and they had to test rope climb in the semifinals. So if rope climb had shown up in the last chance, qualifier,

Taylor Self (12:20):

Like, is that really necessary? I know what he’s saying. I think, you know, Jr we’ll get into this, but you know, he’s and me and him both have the same opinion in terms of, at this point in the test, uh, weeding out people who have holes in, in high skill areas is important at the same time. I think you have to go back and look at what the athletes have been through to this point in the season. The fact that the games are almost less, you know, a month away. Um, do you want to beat the shit out of ’em a month outta competition and have, make, you know, need these guys to take a week off when they’re, when they’re game training or is it which, I mean, they’re probably gonna do anyways, these workouts are fucking brutal, but, uh, I don’t know. I, I don’t think it’s an issue being slightly redundant. I don’t think they were really at all with this test. They, I don’t think they were redundant to a high degree in any way.

Sevan Matossian (13:18):

Look, who’s here. Are you here for good SU?

Taylor Self (13:20):

I hope so. I’m on my laptop now. I don’t know what’s going on.

Sevan Matossian (13:26):

Oh boy. SU oh, poor Susan. Um, do you have any issues with the same work with the, with the movement showing up over again? Uh, Mr. Howell?

JR Howell (13:35):

Well, I think there’s always an opportunity for someone to have a whole, and you know, that being said, if you know the workouts would’ve been programmed in the open exactly how they were originally, we would’ve had shuttle runs in the open quarter finals, um, and all the semifinals with the rope climb. And now with the last chance qualifier, and if you ask me, do I think it’s more important to test high volume, strict handstand pushups, or higher volume toast to bar, which haven’t come up in the open or quarter finals and very few semifinals, then I would say yes, coupled with something like a cleaning jerk. I think if you did like a really like, uh, just double the rep scheme. So 20 18, 16, 14, all the way down of toast of bar and cleaning jerk. Sure. It’s not as nasty of a test. Like people look at the shuttle run test and think, oh my gosh, that’s gonna be so painful. Maybe the toast of bar test is a, is a little bit of a different stimulus, but I think it’s still important to test grip almost in every stage, just to make sure that you get people to the games that are prepared for that. Because we know at the games there’s gonna be at least one or two grip tests.

Taylor Self (14:36):

I would also, I would also argue with that and say at the games there’s oftentimes more than three running tests. And so it might be important to test the running to that redundant of a level.

Brian Friend (14:48):

Well, for many years, I mean, running was, was not very, really tested at all.

Taylor Self (14:54):

And now it’s been well in recent memory now it’s been tested a ton. Yeah. Which I am in favor

Sevan Matossian (14:59):

Of, I think, are you guys happy? Are you guys happy with the variety of time domains in these workouts?

Taylor Self (15:04):

Yeah, I am

Sevan Matossian (15:07):


Brian Friend (15:09):

Yeah, definitely.

Sevan Matossian (15:10):

Mr. Howell.

JR Howell (15:15):

Yeah, I think they’re good. I don’t think that, uh, 20 minutes is gonna be touched on workout for, uh, for the fastest times is probably gonna be in the lower teens and the cleaning jerk one is kind of hard to say, but I, I don’t think the 20 minute time cap is gonna come into play. I think it’s gonna be a very generous cap for most athletes to make them finish the work, which we all kind of agreed is a good thing.

Sevan Matossian (15:37):

Um, before I get into the, uh, what’s being tested here, uh, whether it’s too heavy or whether, whether the metabolic capacity to athletes is truly being tested, I’m gonna ask you a couple more other questions. Is there anyone here that’s as relevant as, uh, uh, uh, Christy, uh, Arao O’Connell this year as, as she was taking eighth, will any of these people in the men’s or women’s take eighth or better this year

Brian Friend (16:05):

It’s possible, but it, uh, they, they have to qualify first,

Sevan Matossian (16:09):

But, but, but it, as we get into your picks, do you think your top picks for who will go as the men? Do you think that they can be that good?

Taylor Self (16:18):

Not on the men’s side for me, at least

Brian Friend (16:24):

Let’s get to come back to that question.

Sevan Matossian (16:26):

Okay. Cause cuz I, I, I, part of me wanted to start the show is, is like, what the fuck are we doing? You know? Like, like what, like what is this? But, but, but, but I like it. I like the last chance qualifier. I’m glad we’re doing it. It’s fun. I think that the, the alternative that you guys offered is great, but if, if they are bottom of the heat people, then I, then I start to the question it, but okay. We’ll, we’ll circle back around. Um, this is the second year they’ve done it. Uh, any, any, do you like the consistency between last year and this year, uh, Jr. Between, between the events last chance qualifier, do you like what you saw last year? Do you like what you see this year? Is it getting better?

JR Howell (17:01):

Yeah, I think the test as a whole is a lot better this year, uh, than it was last year. One of the major pros that I see is the, um, the, uh, lack of single modality tests where a lot of people may agree that at this point everyone’s good at mixed modality. We need to make sure that they’re good at some single modality stuff like with the three red max deadlift and the a hundred burpees to a target. Um, I still think it’s a, it, it punishes people a little bit more for not being great at one thing versus mixing them. So I think not seeing a single modality test was definitely a plus from last year to this year. I think four tests is still enough. I think you can have a good well-rounded test with four workouts. Um, and it’s pretty well. Um, there’s a lot of variety there, so yeah, I mean, I, I think we’re trending the right direction with the workouts as a whole

Sevan Matossian (17:50):


Brian Friend (17:54):

I would, I would agree with that. Um, I think it was a, yeah, I think it was a step in the direction, a right direction from last year.

Sevan Matossian (18:01):

Uh it’s it’s interesting what Jr says about the single modality, because you would’ve thought that with if last year did have, or it did have the heavy deadlifts that, that would’ve maybe stopped Christie. Right. But, but, but she made it

Brian Friend (18:15):

Well, she won, she won two of the four, uh, events and that goes a really long way as we know.

Sevan Matossian (18:21):

Okay. Uh, are you happy with the workouts over Taylor? Uh, do you think that this is going in the right direction?

Taylor Self (18:29):

I think it’s a lot better than last year. I also think to take into account last year, they, I think they were doing the low equipment because of COVID thing. And so that may have played a part in the last chance programming, but this year it is as a whole, a lot, a lot better.

Sevan Matossian (18:44):

Okay. Let’s do it. Then let’s get into, uh, oh, one more thing. Uh, I, I had on the text thread, I did see that there were some and, and I watched, uh, the morning chalk up. And, um, who else did I watch? I watched some, I watched someone, something else also about the last chance qualifier. And there was some concerns, not concerns, but we didn’t know the full registration yet. Has registration been closed? And do we know everyone who’s in

Brian Friend (19:10):

Not closed, but we do know everyone who’s currently

Sevan Matossian (19:13):

Registered. And when does it close? When does this start tomorrow?

JR Howell (19:18):

I think it starts at the beginning of the first workout window,

Sevan Matossian (19:21):

Which is

JR Howell (19:24):


Sevan Matossian (19:25):

Okay. And that’s ju Wednesday, June 29th. When, when do so why would someone be waiting?

Brian Friend (19:33):

<laugh> um, like logical mind says, you know, I just wanna make sure that I’m healthy and ready to go. And so I’ll just wait till last minute and, and pay my fee right. When I’m ready to start knowing some of the athletes. I, I honestly think it might just be a forgot and I haven’t done

Sevan Matossian (19:53):

It yet. You think we’re gonna have it? Or, or, or maybe do you think maybe we’ll end up having, uh, Onika Greer situation where someone thinks that they did, but they didn’t,

Taylor Self (19:59):

Which is fucking ridiculous. If you, for, if you’ve forgotten to register up to this point, you’re not fucking going to the games irrelevant

Sevan Matossian (20:07):

And any, any,

Taylor Self (20:08):

And that pisses me off that pisses

Brian Friend (20:09):

Me up. And there are athletes that have said that they’re not gonna do it and they have not registered. And so that, you know, that’s why they’re not in the field.

Sevan Matossian (20:17):

Uh, how many athletes did we have, uh, qualifi for the last chance qualifier, worldwide,

Brian Friend (20:22):

30 qualifiers and, and both the men’s and women’s side, there are also two special exemptions. So there’s 32 total athletes available to register for both divisions.

Sevan Matossian (20:32):

And when you say 32 men, 32 women, uh, will you explain those two men and two women who are the exemptions?

Brian Friend (20:38):

All four of them are from Asia, the far Throwdown. Uh, everyone is probably familiar with the men, Dennis Samsonov and Zahi who are both capable of traveling there, but probably incapable of getting back to the us, uh, in a timely faction, should they have made the games, which they both would’ve had a chance to make the games I believe in that. Uh semi-final and then on the women’s side, it’s just more of the same, just with a little bit lesser known and less publicized athletes or Cohen. And I actually a woman named, um, um, Maha Savina, uh, who was 30th in the Asian, uh, quarter finals. Um, and I had not, not heard of any complications regarding her, in all the things that had been going up in the build up to this. Uh, she, the only, the first time I knew about this was when she just popped up on the registration.

Sevan Matossian (21:28):

I, I wonder what that conversation’s like, dear Justin, I live in North Korea and if I go home king Jong UN will not let me back love. I mean, do, do we know how, how does that, like, I mean, we, we know that you need all sorts of proof and all this shit for all this other shit. I wonder, I wonder what you have to prove. Um, I wonder, I wonder what you have to prove. You have to show that you came into the country. Should

Brian Friend (21:54):

I ask that in the press conference?

Sevan Matossian (21:56):

Okay. Next press. I’ll put that for my press conference questions. <laugh> thank you, Brian. You’re so smart. You’re solution oriented. Uh, so how many do we have men and how many do we have women? And I, I know Sam Briggs, uh, told us she wasn’t. So that’s probably the most notable game, the, uh, notable name, the former CrossFit games champion, who is not, she’s going to be instead, uh, in Emma McQuaids corner. Um, any

Brian Friend (22:20):

At this moment there are 25 men registered and 20 women registered.

Sevan Matossian (22:25):

Okay. Do you have any issues with that? I mean, I, Taylor, I know you gotta ax to grind a little bit. You’re like chomping at the bit, like, cuz you want to be at the games. Um, and you’re pissed, but um, just a healthy, pissed do. Is there any, any issues you have with, with 12 women not signing up for it?

Taylor Self (22:45):

No. I don’t have an issue with them choosing not to sign up. If you think like, well I’m injured. I don’t think I’m gonna make it. Then don’t sign up by all means. If you, if you’re sitting there thinking you’re not gonna make it. Yeah. Don’t fucking sign up. Um, I was just, I just get annoyed by people who don’t that cuz that is the thing. What Brian said is they forgot. It’s the same people who have a lot of issues with their video and with their review process. And they’re just kind of ditzy and all over the place. Like at this level you need to be a professional

Sevan Matossian (23:16):

Smoke weed every day. Okay. Uh, let’s dig in. I, I I’m a little concerned cuz I see SU come and go like fucking Casper, that ghost down there in the <laugh> he’s giving us a thumbs up. I know it’s not your fault. Uh, SU it’s uh, the world of the internet. But um, do you guys mind if we just dig in and start doing this?

Brian Friend (23:38):

Not at

Sevan Matossian (23:38):

All, let’s do it. Okay. Let’s dig in. Let’s look, let’s look at the, uh, let’s look at the first workout. Um, let’s discuss whether we like workouts individually, whether we like the workouts as a whole and who do we think is going to, uh, win them? Um, in any chaotic form you want to, uh, talk about it. Let’s do it last chance. Qualify, workout. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. One more thing. How does this work? This starts tomorrow. We don’t know the exact time they know. Can they do just all four workouts tomorrow? If they wanted,

Taylor Self (24:10):

I believe last year we got an email with a code or password, um, at the beginning of each submission window for, for the workouts in that submission window so that we couldn’t complete other workouts prior to does that make sense? So,

Sevan Matossian (24:28):

So, so tomorrow they don’t even know which one’s gonna be assigned. They know the four workouts, but they don’t know which one’s gonna happen tomorrow or they do know workout one.

Taylor Self (24:35):

Well they’re we can assume the order is gonna be workout. 1, 2, 3, 4. So let’s say workouts one and two are completed in the first submission window. When that submission window opens, we got an email that said workout one in two password is California. You’re gonna need to say this password at the end of your video for this score submission to be valid. And that way I couldn’t go and do workout four on Friday, cuz I liked it better and thought that that would gimme a better chance.

Sevan Matossian (24:59):

I love

Taylor Self (24:59):

It. They okay. And they did that in the online semifinals last year.

Sevan Matossian (25:02):

And that will happen, uh, uh, toward the best of our knowledge on the 29th, which is tomorrow, Wednesday in the morning, then Thursday in the morning and then Friday in the morning.

JR Howell (25:12):

Mm-hmm <affirmative> I think the window starts tomorrow at three Eastern, 12 Pacific and then it’ll close 24 hours after that.

Sevan Matossian (25:19):

Mm-hmm <affirmative> okay. Yeah. And when that one closes does the next one just open?

Taylor Self (25:24):


Sevan Matossian (25:25):

And it’s just one a day. So this will go four days,

Brian Friend (25:27):

No two a day, two days be done on Friday

Sevan Matossian (25:30):

Days. Okay. Oh, I’m glad I’m asking.

Brian Friend (25:32):

But the, but I mean the, the over arching issue is how come no one knows this.

Taylor Self (25:39):

Yeah. It’s

Sevan Matossian (25:39):

Well, I’m just a Jack out. I’ve been at the beach on oh no, no.

Brian Friend (25:42):

There’s there has not been that I know of, uh, and a way for people to find this information out all day long, people have been asking me this,

Taylor Self (25:50):

Have the athletes gotten information?

Brian Friend (25:52):

I don’t know, but other people then the athletes want to know and it mm-hmm <affirmative> what’s the harm and cross to putting something out that say, Hey, this is the format for the last chance qualifier. Maybe we have a show coming up. That’s gonna explain it at the beginning or a couple days before, where are we gonna have a show after day one? Are we gonna have to show after day two? Will we be able to watch these things? If we want to, after the fact, like there’s no information about how are people are obviously interested in this, but there’s no communication about how they can digest it.

Sevan Matossian (26:20):

I’m I’m on the CrossFit game site right now on the, their homepage, trying to see

Taylor Self (26:25):

At best it’s AIS for their media team, in terms of an opportunity to showcase the athletes,

Brian Friend (26:31):

Get with the program is saying, we can listen to the podcast across the games podcast to find this information out. Um, but I think it, you know, that’s, that is great, but not everyone always has the, the time or whatever to do that. Maybe also to have, uh, a written format

Taylor Self (26:46):

Where you can, how many views does that one have

Brian Friend (26:48):

Or an Instagram post accompanying it? I

Taylor Self (26:50):


Sevan Matossian (26:51):

Uh, an Instagram post would be great. And there should just be a news section on the games thing, updated information, like just like, I mean, they can, you can sell, you can sell tickets. Maybe the real media is notified of these things. A newsletter, CrossFit games newsletter.

Sevan Matossian (27:12):

The more we know, the more we can be invested in. If you go to look at the Mona Lisa at the Louv, you might think, oh cool. I saw it. If you found out that it was painted with blood and exc experiment, you would think differently of it. If you found out it was painted with the paintbrush in the guy’s foot, with his hand, with his foot, instead of his hands, you would then even have a deeper knowledge of it. And each bit that you bring to the narrative into the story and each detail of information you give us, we get invested more as the viewer. And if you don’t give us this stuff, someone might be like, well, what’s Brian saying, it’s just a detail that only athletes need to know. No, the more you tell us, the more we can be invested and the more we’ll want to watch, the more money we’ll spend, the more time we’ll spend. And the more this thing will grow. Hear me, hear me scream. Okay. So sorry. Go ahead, Taylor.

Taylor Self (28:09):

Nothing. No.

Sevan Matossian (28:10):

Okay. I mean, it’s just, it’s just common. It’s just common sense. Get invested. Okay. Uh, Susan, let’s go. Let’s look at the workout one more time. So this workout workout one and workout two will be given to us at 12:00 PM Pacific standard time tomorrow, the window will open. They’ll get a password. They say the password at the end of the workout. And here we go. Um, it’s uh, 20 thrusters and then max, uh, bar muscle ups and then, uh, two to four minute and they have two minutes to do all that in then a two to two, a two minute rest, and then minutes, four through six, they do the inversion of that 20 bar muscles. And then max thrusters, I’m assuming then the winner is the guy with the highest number of reps total. Is that how that works?

Taylor Self (28:47):


Sevan Matossian (28:48):

Fuck this. I, I think this is cool.

Taylor Self (28:50):

That’s very cool. Uh, there’s only one complaint I have about all the programming and it’s not really a complaint. It’s just what I feel like I would’ve done differently. And that was interchange the thruster with a snatch and me and Jr. Talked about this, a squat snatch, aside from that one gripe, the program’s amazing. And I still love this workout. I just think we

Brian Friend (29:14):

Have, I was, I was wanted to, yeah, I, I think this is a really clever, uh, workout. I’m sure that they’ve done some testing too. I mean, I’m hopeful. They’ve done some testing to make sure that this is the case, but I have two, two questions. One in the, kind of the vein of what you just said. Do you think that having these thrusters at this weight and having also those cleaning jerks it that way is redundant in any way?

Taylor Self (29:32):

Um, there’s a degree of re it is a very different feeling movement. Yes. You’re in the front rack and you’re going overhead twice, but it’s such a different feeling, but again, that’s why I would’ve put the snatch in there. And also because we didn’t see a heavy barbell snatch to a large degree, the, the whole season, you know, not

Sevan Matossian (29:54):

When you say a snatch star tell I just wanna be clear instead of 20 thrusters. Do you have 20 snatches in there?

Taylor Self (29:59):

Yes, either.

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