#462 – Hunter McIntyre

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

BA I’m more live not we me. I don’t see hunter. Where is hunter MacIntyre? Good morning guys. Bruce. Wayne, what do I always wanna call you? Hi me Jamie. Good morning chase. Good morning, Eric. Good morning. Jungle drums. Good morning, Kevin Smith. Good morning, Alan. Ke bomb. BU Diaz. Uh, if you’re kind of, if you’re gonna talk shit in the comments, it’s fine. If you’re using a fake name and you talk shit, it gets a little weird. I mean, I talk shit. I mean like real shit. Not like the jokes and like Dick butter, like is just refining his standup routine. I have no problem with jokes like that, but if you’re gonna get like hypercritical and start getting vicious and mean, and you’re not using your real name, I’m thinking I’m gonna start whacking you. I, I, and, and I don’t even know why I’m saying that. Cause I don’t even see any of those. Um, very often, but last night I saw one, I saw a dude talking crazy shit and just like fake name. You know what I mean? Like his name was like random and I’m like, ah, I don’t know if I’m gonna do that. Oh, you got a perm. That’s dope.

Hunter McIntyre (01:18):

Fuck. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:24):

I, I go

Hunter McIntyre (01:25):

Ahead. I decided to jump the pool just before I got down here. That’s where my hair’s all wet and I’m feeling nice.

Sevan Matossian (01:31):

Wow. Where are you

Hunter McIntyre (01:33):


Sevan Matossian (01:34):

Oh, so it’s early for you too. 7:00 AM.

Hunter McIntyre (01:37):

It is. I mean, I, you

Sevan Matossian (01:40):

Wake up you’re time. Why don’t you find, why don’t you like bully me and be like, no, dude, I’m not doing seven. Am

Hunter McIntyre (01:46):

I I’m up at like five every single day.

Sevan Matossian (01:48):

Oh, alright

Hunter McIntyre (01:49):

Fine. I’m so lonely for the first. If it wasn’t for California existing, like in the east coast existing, I’d be so lonely. Cuz I usually wake up anywhere between four 30 and five 30 every single day. And I’ll call my family on the east coast and chat with them for a bit. And then I wait for all my friends on the west coast to wake up. Then I’ll chat with them for a bit.

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

Can you define lonely?

Hunter McIntyre (02:10):

Uh, dude, I wake up with like infinite amounts of energy and ideas inside of my head. And usually what I do is I take a pad of paper and I start writing all these things down that I need to do for the, the day ideas for projects. And then I run outta runway because there I accomplish all those tasks pretty quickly. And then I’m just sitting there and I’m like, what the fuck am I gonna do?

Sevan Matossian (02:33):

And then you’re like the seven podcast. Is this the first time you’ve spoke this morning?

Hunter McIntyre (02:37):

No, no, no.

Sevan Matossian (02:38):


Hunter McIntyre (02:39):

No, no. Uh, I saw, I, I met, I, I bumped into two humans about 10 minutes ago

Sevan Matossian (02:46):

At a coffee shop.

Hunter McIntyre (02:47):

No, no, no. I just ran up to the pool, jumped in the pool. Um, they were doing yoga, but the pool I ran back down, I was fully in the nude. They caught me in the nude. I’ve actually done that multiple times where I didn’t, I had my headphones in and I didn’t recognize that they were doing yoga up on the deck and I jump on the pool full of naked in front of a bunch of people. And then I turn around, I’m like, oh

Sevan Matossian (03:08):

Shit. Um, Cox swinging

Hunter McIntyre (03:10):


Sevan Matossian (03:12):

Wow. Explain that this man. I had some really, I was gonna come in really hot today with some shit. But um, I like the, I like nudity talk a lot better. So wh where do you live that you think that you can go up to the pool naked?

Hunter McIntyre (03:25):

We live in this like gigantic compound on top of a mountain of Malibu. Mm-hmm <affirmative> um, a guy who owns it. Is

Sevan Matossian (03:33):

It a cult?

Hunter McIntyre (03:34):

No, not at all. Not at all. Oh, so there’s three properties. I live in the stables. They were, uh, basically they burnt down in 2007 and they were transformed into a gym to apartments and a big car storage port on the far side for

Sevan Matossian (03:50):

Rich people for rich people. Like are there Porsches and Ferrari and shit in there?

Hunter McIntyre (03:55):

Just mine. Okay. So if you’re trying to say I’m rich. Thanks.

Sevan Matossian (03:59):

All right.

Hunter McIntyre (03:59):

All right. Subtle Plex, subtle PL I’m just kidding. <laugh> uh, we have a defender. We have a, one of the original model Teslas, uh, and a couple other cool cars, but you know, those are the ones that I like to look

Sevan Matossian (04:12):

At. One of the original model Tesla is like, they just came out two years ago and you’re, and you’re already trying to give the Tesla like is

Hunter McIntyre (04:18):

No, no, no. You know that the original Tesla was built on a Lotus, a lease frame.

Sevan Matossian (04:22):

Oh like those race car ones,

Hunter McIntyre (04:24):

Little ones. It’s the biggest piece of shit on the planet. It is always in the shop. Okay. This is the only thing I have against Tesla. They fucking suck. But other than that,

Sevan Matossian (04:33):

They’re super cool.

Hunter McIntyre (04:34):

They’re super cool. Um, so then there’s the main home and that’s a five bedroom home with a pool. And then there’s these cabins up top. There’s like a, it’s like called like the bachelor pad. There’s three cabins up there with another pool. And my roommate, he’s the main caretaker for the property. He takes care of everything. It’s 50 acres. It’s just like continuously, uh, like falling apart and things are dying. Um, so he takes care of the place. They, they granted me like the opportunity to live here in 2014, uh, cuz I used to try to, I would just do odd jobs for them and I would just be like, Hey, do you want me to like move this rock for you? Cause I was just a poor kid. Just like you were probably at one point where you just would do anything for money.

Hunter McIntyre (05:17):

And I would come up here. I would ride my bicycle here, walk the dogs, move anything. First job I ever did with them, just move art. And they realized like, dude, you’re talented. You gotta get your shit together. Why don’t you live up here and craft yourself like, you know, hone your craft, get your shit together. And literally I went from, you know, being a guy who had never accomplished anything in his athletic career to now eight world titles all, when I showed up here, I only owned a bicycle. Now, now I own three cars underneath that carport. So it’s like they, they changed my life. But uh,

Sevan Matossian (05:52):

That could have gone sideways. You could have got into drugs or something

Hunter McIntyre (05:55):

To be totally honest. Most people that I’ve witnessed that come into this ecosystem. Do

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

Hey, has any, have you ever been offered to do porn?

Hunter McIntyre (06:04):

Tons of times,

Sevan Matossian (06:05):

Like real porn, like, I mean like a real like someone like have you ever been offered, um, straight porn or gay porn? Have you ever been asked to, um, masturbate for like gay porn, uh,

Hunter McIntyre (06:14):

Sites not directly masturbate for gay porn to be totally honest. Um, I, I, I made those mistakes really,

Sevan Matossian (06:20):

But people who don’t know, that’s not me asking Malibu is, is notorious for its porn community. Go on the whole area up there is okay.

Hunter McIntyre (06:28):

Sorry. I fell into that mistake really early on cuz I did modeling and I was asked to shoot nude and those pictures immediately got into circulation where my family saw

Sevan Matossian (06:40):

’em oh

Hunter McIntyre (06:41):

Man. And my family ripped me a new one so quickly that it changed like my entire trajectory. I was just like, that was the most awful experience in my life. Having to have a conversation with my mom, why I did that.

Sevan Matossian (06:53):


Hunter McIntyre (06:53):

And I didn’t know any better. They’re like, oh yeah, come on, shoot with your clothes off. Everybody does it. And I was like, fuck yeah, I’ll take my clothes off. Let’s

Sevan Matossian (07:01):

Do this. Yes. Yeah, yeah,

Hunter McIntyre (07:02):

Yeah. And um,

Sevan Matossian (07:04):

I’ve seen how those photographers work too. It’s it’s a trip.

Hunter McIntyre (07:07):

Yeah. It was stupid. It was really stupid. Um, I mean, listen, I’m not sitting here crying about it now. I don’t care. But it was one of those kind of things where it didn’t create value in my life. So there was no real reason to do it. Um, there’s a guy at the,

Sevan Matossian (07:20):

Oh that’s a great line.

Hunter McIntyre (07:23):

What’s that?

Sevan Matossian (07:24):

It didn’t create real value in my life. So why did I do it? It’s a great line.

Hunter McIntyre (07:30):

So basical, basically there’s a guy down at the grocery store here. I’m not gonna say his name. Cause I wouldn’t want him to get in trouble, but he’s the coolest person in the entire world. Like he does the checkout and every single time I do him, he’s like, dude, he’s like, whenever you’re ready to get into porn. He’s like, I’ve got all the connections. He’s like just do it. And I love him. He’s been a friend of mine for like, you know, nearly 10 years now, but he’s been trying to pitch me on it for a long time and I’m on the verge of doing it, but I’ve got a good life. So I don’t really need to yet. But I do get constantly jealous of only fans. Like one of my friends that I first moved to LA with is dumb as a box rocks. Like just doesn’t have much going on. Like if you bumped into him, he’s the sweetest guy. He’s handsome. He’s kind like he’s got everything in the way that he’s just a, he’s a good human, but you would never expect him to accomplish anything. He got onto only fans about a year, year and a half ago. And this dude is renting out five bedroom homes for Coachella. He’s I’m talking to him, he’s traveling all over the world. This summer

Sevan Matossian (08:35):

It’s dudes who wanna see him. It’s dudes

Hunter McIntyre (08:37):

A hundred percent. There’s nobody there’s chicks. Chicks are not making transactions to see other naked people.

Sevan Matossian (08:43):

They don’t there there’s no girl. Oh, that’s interesting. So fans only is

Hunter McIntyre (08:50):

A hundred percent a male driven, um, website economy. If I could imagine

Sevan Matossian (08:54):

What’s he do there? What’s he do on there?

Hunter McIntyre (08:57):

I mean, oh shit. Is that a Bobcat? Hold on.

Sevan Matossian (09:02):

Is that art on look, look on the, look on his wall.

Hunter McIntyre (09:05):

I’m trying to capture a Bobcat for a while. Sorry.

Sevan Matossian (09:07):

Look on his wall. What is that? Is that, is that menstrual art?

Hunter McIntyre (09:11):

That is no, that’s a tractor that I’ve been painting for years that I just left like that. And people think it’s like so interesting that I left a half painted tractor inside of a massive like golden Regal frame.

Sevan Matossian (09:22):

Here’s what I think. I think that you put someone, um, down on their back and you had sex with ’em in the missionary position while they were in their mens. And that was the stain.

Hunter McIntyre (09:35):

I’m not really into that.

Sevan Matossian (09:37):

I mean, I I’m, I’m surprised you are into it. I’m very surprised. Okay.

Hunter McIntyre (09:41):

You look it down that right.

Sevan Matossian (09:43):

So your buddy is at, so he does stuff on camera. He does. He has the fans only what’s he do like type put his shoes on naked or just like what’s he do? Oh, so you ran up there. Hold pause. You ran. So you ran up there to the pool on this property where other people live naked. Did you get in trouble for that? Will they report you to the guy who owns the property?

Hunter McIntyre (10:02):

No, no, no. It’s it’s we all know each other really well. It’s not like, you know, I’m a criminal. I didn’t like break into their house and steal their diamond earrings. Um, this time

Sevan Matossian (10:13):

Ever get a note that says hunter we’d love you, but could you wear, um, underwear at the pool?

Hunter McIntyre (10:19):

I mean, when you live on top of a mountain, you should have the opportunity to be naked whenever you want to be.

Sevan Matossian (10:24):

Have you ever seen any of them naked?

Hunter McIntyre (10:26):

No. My roommate unfortunately has probably seen my dingdong between 50 and 7,500 times.

Sevan Matossian (10:32):

Have, have you ever arrested your balls on their chin?

Hunter McIntyre (10:35):

No. Bro’s a sweet soul. I would never do that to him. I think I told you this we’re totally total opposites. He wakes up every single day and meditates for like one to four hours. And I wake up in the morning and I’m like a pinball machine I’m like, and uh, you know, when I first met him, he was, he’s a black guy with dreads, with tattoos all over his body. He’s a yoga instructor, like meditational spiritual guy. Uh,

Sevan Matossian (11:01):

And now he’s an Asian guy with no tattoos,

Hunter McIntyre (11:03):

No tattoos. And I mean, at least like he’s, he’s taught me and got me into meditation a bit. And I’ve got him into the gym a bit, which is interesting. But the, the whole them seeing me naked thing was not the worst thing in the entire world. I just told him, I was like, guys, you gotta gimme 30 seconds. I gotta jump on this pool. And I’m not gonna jump in with my clothes cuz I gotta get back on this call. So if you’re gonna see not the, but look away.

Sevan Matossian (11:28):

Um, I picture him as being gay and enjoying it. Um, I have a friend who, who has a fans only Paige also I have a couple friends, but one of them

Hunter McIntyre (11:40):

Girl, let’s be honest,

Sevan Matossian (11:40):

Girls, two girls. And

Hunter McIntyre (11:43):

Are they both in CrossFit?

Sevan Matossian (11:47):

Uh, yeah. And I cannot believe, uh, and, and um, I don’t think either, well, I haven’t seen their pages, but both of ’em told me that they don’t show nipple, but I cannot believe the money. One of them is making it is, it is nuts.

Hunter McIntyre (12:04):

There’s this line where it’s kind of hard to

Sevan Matossian (12:08):

And well, I mean, no nipple. I mean that means they don’t show vagina or anything either. They just like, they just go about their day. Just like

Hunter McIntyre (12:14):

It’s like classy. Like it’s like

Sevan Matossian (12:17):

Skin masks. I don’t know. I don’t know that. I don’t know that. Well, one of the girls is definitely kind of a fetish girl. She’s got some fetish fetish attributes. She’s she’s not like,

Hunter McIntyre (12:26):

Well there’s this thing where it’s like,

Sevan Matossian (12:28):

I guess all go CrossFit girls are kind of fetish girls, but we just don’t realize it cuz we’re in there.

Hunter McIntyre (12:34):

It’s it’s um, it’s basically, I don’t know, brought the sex industry into, you know, into the future where it’s one, it’s very easy to manage. Two it’s much safer and three it’s much more profitable.

Sevan Matossian (12:52):

And I wonder how much fans only takes what percentage?

Hunter McIntyre (12:55):

I think a big profit.

Sevan Matossian (12:56):

So they’re like the new pimp. It’s not like, oh my God, my producer and director used to take so much money from me. I’m so free now. Now it’s fans only taking it from you.

Hunter McIntyre (13:05):

Yeah. But think about it. It’s the same reason why it’s so interesting. Like my entire life’s changed. I used to have to walk people in Malibu that had too much money mm-hmm <affirmative> and that would like talk down to me, uh, to make my paychecks. And now all of my training, like you’ll just this entire call. You’ll just see Bing, Bing, Bing, Shopify things going off. And I don’t ever have to leave the house for these people. They

Sevan Matossian (13:29):

Take one. And what are, what are those people buying from you

Hunter McIntyre (13:32):

Take pics. Let’s be honest.

Sevan Matossian (13:34):

Uh, is that, is that your train? That that’s your training? Tell me the name of

Hunter McIntyre (13:38):

Again. No, that’s that’s the training. Um, that’s training, supplements, all that kind of stuff. But these people, all they have to do is get one of these bubble sticks. They spread, spread it out. They spread their cheeks. They take a picture and then they’re on for the day.

Sevan Matossian (13:52):


Hunter McIntyre (13:55):

I read this article. This is an, I read this article. So there was this porn star that became really big. And I didn’t even know who she was. I only knew who she was because of um, entourage. Her name was Sasha gray.

Sevan Matossian (14:09):

Did you change your home screen on your training site?

Hunter McIntyre (14:13):


Sevan Matossian (14:14):

It’s nice. I like it.

Hunter McIntyre (14:16):

Yeah. We’re changing it all the time. We’re always kind of like every couple months we do it. We, we do a bunch of research. We see, you can like basically with these websites now you can see and track where people are clicking and how quickly they turn things over. So we’re

Sevan Matossian (14:31):

Always, God, you’re handsome. You really are handsome.

Hunter McIntyre (14:33):

Thanks, man. I worked really hard at that.

Sevan Matossian (14:37):

You didn’t do shit for that.

Hunter McIntyre (14:39):

I have to decide, you know what? Let’s have a, let’s have a series.

Sevan Matossian (14:42):

I won’t forget about SA I won’t forget about Sasha Ray. I do want hear about Sasha

Hunter McIntyre (14:45):

Ray. That is interesting subject, but I want to ask your opinion about this. I’ve always had a mullet since probably the age of 12 to 13 on and off. Now everybody has this hairdo. I would say one in five guys that I’ve seen in the streets have the same hairdo.

Sevan Matossian (15:03):

Justin Maderas Ricky, Ricky, Simone.

Hunter McIntyre (15:06):

I don’t know what to do. Theo bar. I mean, I think, I think there should be like a mullet Throwdown where we like all meet up in like a dirt parking lot and just beat the fuck out of each other. Oh yeah. Going with mullet winds

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

Last mullet standing. We

Hunter McIntyre (15:19):

Already had this conversation before. Nobody likes to use physicality to handle situations anymore. So

Sevan Matossian (15:25):

Wasn’t there a movie where a guy had a name. It’s like a documentary and a guy had this name and he said he started just calling everyone out who had the same name as him first and last name. And they all met somewhere and fought

Hunter McIntyre (15:39):


Sevan Matossian (15:40):

No, no, no. This that’s a, this is a real movie, like a documentary. And then they all fought to see who got to keep the name.

Hunter McIntyre (15:47):

This is a real movie, like a documentary like this is real life

Sevan Matossian (15:50):

Shit. Yeah. I, I wish I could remember the name of it. Hunter. When you retire, would you consider pro wrestling? That’s a great question.

Hunter McIntyre (15:56):

I literally got a call from the WWE last week

Sevan Matossian (15:59):


Hunter McIntyre (16:00):

Yep. And I, I tried out for the WWE in 2017 and they offered me the job. I’ll show you the picture, but the fucking contract is so God awful. It’s like you might as well. I, you might as well work at CVS. I mean you could become the richest. See, look that’s me at the WWE a couple years ago at 2017.

Sevan Matossian (16:23):


Hunter McIntyre (16:24):

And I went through the whole thing, got offered the job and I was like, no, no. That is such an awful deal.

Sevan Matossian (16:31):

The beautiful Nick Sador says get a bubble stick, spread your cheeks. And you’re good for the day hunter S Mac. Um, do you wanna tell, I wanna, I wanna say something, but you were in a story about Sasha. Do you wanna do Sasha, do you want me to go off on this little thing here real quick?

Hunter McIntyre (16:49):

No, I just, one day I woke up and I was like, I was thinking about only fans and I woke up and I was like, what is happening with the ancient porn stars versus the new day porn stars? So there was these two porn stars that were really, really big. There’s this girl. I think her name was Lana road. She became really, these are two girls that became mainstream off of porn. Sasha gray became mainstream and did, uh, entourage. And she was on there and was like a character in the show was dating Vince. And then she decided she wanted to go like try to become a movie star and write scripts and stuff. And it didn’t seem like her life panned out financially or just, you know, career wise as much as she wanted it to this line of Rhodes girl who was, uh, you know, on more of a modern day porn star, she became really popular because she dated one of the like Logan Paul’s partners, uh, on his like, you know, YouTube career. Right. And then she started only fans. And this girl was like, I think they, she printed like $300,000 in one day, one time. And it just is so crazy. How this girl

Sevan Matossian (17:57):

Who what’s that girl’s name? The girl, the other,

Hunter McIntyre (17:59):

I think her name’s Lana Rhode.

Sevan Matossian (18:01):

And that’s the one that’s the other like kind of mainstream. This

Hunter McIntyre (18:04):

Is Tasha. Gray’s like third, like, you know, let’s say 10 to 15 years older probably than this Lana Rhode girl. And it’s just crazy. If you were born in Sasha Gray’s era and you didn’t capitalize on the new only fans thing, which, you know, you didn’t have the opportunity to you. You missed out an opportunity becoming like a, a mega billionaire porn star

Sevan Matossian (18:25):

Girls were this girl 16 million followers.

Hunter McIntyre (18:27):

I know, but that’s what I’m trying to say. Like from an era wise, Sasha road was the porn star 10, 15 years ago. This girl is the porn star now. And she,

Sevan Matossian (18:39):

She only keeps up 15 posts and she archives the rest.

Hunter McIntyre (18:42):

Yeah. I, I don’t know even know what that means, but it’s just insane to see how these people’s careers have changed so much. And one of the biggest factors is only fans. And I know,

Sevan Matossian (18:54):

Oh, she’s on PornHub. This girl’s on. You can see this chick railed on PornHub.

Hunter McIntyre (18:58):

Yeah. That’s what I’m trying to say. She’s a big time porn

Sevan Matossian (19:00):

Star. I know I’m having trouble believing it.

Hunter McIntyre (19:03):

Yeah. I wouldn’t click that. You’re probably gonna crack the screen.

Sevan Matossian (19:06):

This is the one that’s married to Logan Paul.

Hunter McIntyre (19:08):

No, no. She was dating one of Logan. Paul’s uh, I think his name is Mike or something, but she was dating one of these guys and became kind of a mainstream name in the public because she was like doing things besides porn. That guy in the middle.

Sevan Matossian (19:23):

Oh yeah. Oh, that’s the, that’s kind of the, that’s the, oh yeah. I don’t wanna say anything mean about him. That that’s actually good podcast. Logan. Paul’s pretty inquisitive that guy. And there’s another good guy too. Kind of looks like a, like, um, he could be like my Armenian brother and those two are good. This guy’s kind of a, this guy’s kind of a Dick and doesn’t and tries to act smart, but he is not, he should just keep asking questions like Logan and the other dude, he tries to like be adversarial with people.

Hunter McIntyre (19:51):

Do you think if they do like a rotten tomatoes, if they put Logan impulsive show next to the show that we do on Wednesdays, they’ll be like, they they’re like, they’re like 72 and we’re like 97. Anything that’s above 97 is just fake ratings. But we’re at that, like we’re at the cusp of just like the purest, most beautiful piece of art in the world.

Sevan Matossian (20:10):

Hunter. Remember how you said you wake up in the morning and sometimes you feel lonely. Mm-hmm <affirmative> I’m like 10 years ahead. I’m sitting on the top of this mountain, just waiting for the world to get up here.

Hunter McIntyre (20:21):

Me too.

Sevan Matossian (20:22):


Hunter McIntyre (20:24):

There’s not catching on,

Sevan Matossian (20:25):

Uh, I, I, I wanted to, um, show you something that I saw. Uh, so I have Dave Castro in my Google alerts. I have a bunch I view in my Google alerts. I have a bunch of people in my Google alerts. That’s how I kind of stay up to speed on my guests. And this article popped up and it’s this magazine called box rocks. And it says it’s a competitive fitness magazine. And I scroll down here and I see, and it says, um, box rocks is a competitive fitness magazine, which is in the world’s biggest online magazine for fans of CrossFit. And then it just goes on and on and on just sucking itself off.

Hunter McIntyre (20:58):


Sevan Matossian (21:00):

And then up here it says, um, Dave Castro was, this is an article about a me interviewing Dave

Sevan Matossian (21:08):

Just recently. And yeah, I just had him on the show and it says something in here. I’m gonna try and find it. Um, maybe if I just put command F SC V a N like, oh, let’s see down. Dave Castro sat down with seven Seon for 40 minutes. Okay. So listen to this Seon Metin is the former host of the official CrossFit podcast and has for the past few years done his independent podcast done around CrossFit Seon. And Dave have both worked for CrossFiting for years and developed somewhat of a camaraderie. It’s no wonder that Dave’s first interview ended up with Chevon. So, and the guy who wrote this, his name is, um, Robert born, the guy who wrote the, um,

Hunter McIntyre (21:52):

Didn’t write much, it’s like three sentences long

Sevan Matossian (21:55):

Wrote the, uh, wrote the article. He, I scrolled through it pretty fast and here’s the guy. So I just wanted to say something to you. Robert, um, Robert, I started working in CrossFit in 2006 and I became the executive media director, which was tantamount to the chief marketing officer. And CrossFit became the fastest growing brand on the history of the planet reaching 162 countries on all seven continents, including Antarctica. I was in charge of everything forward facing. I have no fucking peer in this space. None, no second place. I film movies in over a hundred fucking countries. I filmed famines and the richest fucking rap stars who walked the planet.

Hunter McIntyre (22:38):

She’s guy. You’re trying to chop.

Sevan Matossian (22:39):

I have no I’m the largest contributor to the CrossFit fucking journal. I ran the journal, which is the fucking premier fitness and health journal that’s ever existed on the planet. And anyone who’s read it knows that not your schlock, that covers my ass. So maybe, maybe if you’re going to be the premier fitness magazine in the world, you, you, you will, uh, you you’ll you’ll you’ll you’ll you’ll know who I am. You’ll you’ll you’ll understand that I’m not just, uh,

Hunter McIntyre (23:11):

Pay some bigger respects.

Sevan Matossian (23:13):

That’s the I, yeah, I guess I just saw it and I’m just like you jackass, like I

Hunter McIntyre (23:18):

Minimize you down to a podcast.

Sevan Matossian (23:20):

It’s just fucking hilarious.

Hunter McIntyre (23:21):

You know, go Google. Uh, there’s a website called poop centers.com

Sevan Matossian (23:29):

Uh, uh,

Hunter McIntyre (23:31):

I guarantee this is my mom. Cause we talked about those photos. Fucking say it.

Sevan Matossian (23:35):

Thanks. So it’s not your mom, Ryan. Good morning.

Hunter McIntyre (23:40):


Sevan Matossian (23:40):

Hello. Good morning. How’s it going? Good, great lift. I saw do the other day. You stoked?

Speaker 3 (23:48):

What? Lift?

Sevan Matossian (23:49):


Speaker 3 (23:50):

Oh, the, the 2 85.

Sevan Matossian (23:52):


Speaker 3 (23:53):

The snatch. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (23:55):

God, you’re a beast.

Speaker 3 (23:56):

Yeah. Pretty neat. Pretty neat. Just another

Sevan Matossian (23:58):

Day at the office. This guy used to work the back end for YouTube. Uh, for us, uh, hunter.

Speaker 3 (24:03):

Yeah, I was hunter. I was on the show in the back end with you or when we had you on one time

Sevan Matossian (24:10):

He’s been on the guy he’s been on the back end with you, hunter.

Hunter McIntyre (24:13):

Is it nice? Is this the guy in North Dakota or like Nebraska?

Sevan Matossian (24:16):

Yeah. Wow. Good memory. He’s

Speaker 3 (24:17):

North Dakota. Yeah. Yeah.

Hunter McIntyre (24:19):

Yeah. Cause I care about the people I talked to. Unlike Simonon.

Sevan Matossian (24:22):

I can’t even, I couldn’t even remember Alexis rap this guess 1 35. Holy shit.

Hunter McIntyre (24:28):


Speaker 3 (24:29):

Um, yeah, I wanted to call in and say hi and uh, I have a few thoughts on my mind that I wanted to bring up. Um, cause a lot has happened since I’ve last talked to you and I, I wanted to get your input on

Sevan Matossian (24:42):

It. Okay. Shoot.

Speaker 3 (24:45):

And oh, and hunter is a, a great, uh, little side piece for this conversation too.

Sevan Matossian (24:50):

I think of him as a side piece also.

Speaker 3 (24:53):

Yeah. He’s, he’s a pretty cute side piece. Um, okay. So, um, Hiller is like taken over the world right now. Yes. Um,

Sevan Matossian (25:03):

He just, he passed me on, he passed me on subscribers, on YouTube. That’s son of a,

Hunter McIntyre (25:09):

Can I just ask, what does Hillary do? Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (25:11):

I, but don’t get it wrong. People I’m destroying it on apple and Spotify. Like if you think the numbers are good on YouTube, you’ve seen nothing until you see our Spotify and apple numbers. And so, and he is not, he is not over there. So you can’t really compare us, but go on. But, but I still give him kudos. He’s a beast.

Speaker 3 (25:29):

I’ve seen his numbers. The numbers are good. Very big, very big.

Sevan Matossian (25:33):

Oh, you sounded like there, the numbers are good. Very big. Very big. We good?

Speaker 3 (25:38):

Yeah. That was the, that was the goal. Um, OK. So, um, Hiller kinda just is, has been calling out CrossFit Sivan. Can you explain what Hiller’s doing for, for hunter?

Sevan Matossian (25:50):

Uh, basically better understanding he’s made a YouTube career out of like just watching, um, CrossFit events and, uh, competitions and really looking at the judging and the reps of the athletes and noticing that there’s, there’s a lot of mistakes. So like someone will be doing a hundred wall balls and they won’t go below parallel on 50 and yet they still qualify and go onto the next round. And he is really pu pulled, shown some very, very gnarly, um, hiccups in the competition. Basically he’s exposed the competition as not being of a competition. A competition needs rules, right? That’s the whole fucking premise of it. You, everyone has to stay within these lines and then we judge who’s the best at it. And he’s basically shown that it’s a complete shit show over at HQ in regards to the CrossFit games. Would you say that’s fair? Ryan

Speaker 3 (26:34):

Would that’s fair.

Sevan Matossian (26:35):


Speaker 3 (26:38):

Um, I would say that’s fair. Um, the only thing I, I would add to that is that his tone is rather aggressive. Um, yes, he, he very much just doesn’t, uh, care how he comes off. And uh, at times that can be very off putting for a lot of people. Sure. Specifically, I, and this is, this is what, what I wanted to bring up is that I’ve had a lot of people come to me and talk to me like, Hey, you’re not working with Devon anymore. Are you? And I’m like, Nope, I’m not. And they’re like, okay, well here’s the thing. I don’t like how aggressive and how negative they’ve been. And it’s, it’s, I’m just glad you’re not around that negative space. Um, and yeah, haters. It’s one of those things where, I mean, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t have any haters. No one’s telling me they hate me, but like what, what I wanted to bring up is that like, there is a negative, um, like the space is getting more negative, whether or not it’s for the better of CrossFit.

Speaker 3 (27:39):

Uh, like there is a negative dialogue that’s being created and CrossFit has never really had this sort of dialogue before where the community is actually like there’s infighting going on. And, uh, I can see how in the future, um, this can be really bad for Andrew. Uh, at specifically I’ve been in internet communities before for podcasts and stuff like this, where, uh, they have a very ne like this podcast, I listen to P they have a very negative and, uh, mean, uh, comedy style. And I love it. I, I, I love it. But when you create that kind of audience, you end up creating, uh, that audience ends up also being make mean and negative. And they have a very mean, uh, comedy style when they’re joking in the comments and stuff like that. And what that ends up doing is it ends up, uh, essentially eroding the fan base over time. And what I worry is that for Andrew in the future, his audience will eventually eat him. He’ll make a mistake, like,

Sevan Matossian (28:48):

Like the woke crowd, like how they’ll they, they, they think they’re safe, but eventually they cannibalize the, each other too. Like, that’s just what they do. Exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:56):

Yes. It’s it’s human nature. Right.

Hunter McIntyre (28:59):

Can I give you guys a parallel reference?

Sevan Matossian (29:00):

Yeah, go ahead, hunter.

Speaker 3 (29:02):


Hunter McIntyre (29:03):

So I used to compete in the sport of Spartan race. Spartan race was much in parallel with, um, the growth of CrossFit. They both were kind of popping up and exploding, uh, with growth around 2010. They both had peaks around that 2014 through 2016 period. And then I realized just slightly after that, it started to go down. Um, basically something similar happened in our sport where a couple years ago there was a big, even before you guys had your big exchange. What’s your sport, your sport high rocks. No, no, uh, Spartan race. I’m talking about Spartan race. Okay. So they had this exchange where they had kind of a change of guard. This guy took over his director of sport, his name’s David Watson, biggest Cox sucker on the planet. Shout out to you, Dave. Um, and there was a big changing of the guard. There was a lot of people.

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