#447 | Strength in Depth & Atlas Games Pt. 3

Sevan Matossian (00:00):


Sevan Matossian (00:02):

He was just swinging his balls around <laugh> <laugh> I don’t know if we can say that on the air. Hey, Hey. Hey, I don’t know if we can. I dunno if you can say that on the air, they have a fucking, they have a fucking flag that represents people in front of my kids elementary school that represents genitalia in front of all the fucking elementary schools in California. And you’re worried about Patrick ner talking about swinging geese, swinging his balls around. I hate it when seven interjects his politics. No, it has nothing to do with politics. I’m a dad. I’m a dad. It’s just, it’s just my kid’s elementary school. It’s education.

Taylor Self (00:38):

What’s a genital flag,

Sevan Matossian (00:40):

The gay dire, the LGBTQ flag that, that they got in front of all the elementary schools. That flag signifies that you like people with the same, that, um, genitalia that you have. That’s all that is that gay just means that like my I’m a dude, I got cock balls and I wanna rub them all over Hiller’s face. And so that flag means that it’s a great thing for Hiller to have on his garage door. So I know to drop over and catch a cold one on Saturday night. I don’t want it in front of my kids elementary school and it’s not politics.

Andrew Hiller (01:08):


Sevan Matossian (01:09):

It’s education. Hi Brian. And so what I’m saying is I’m perfectly okay with Vener swinging his balls around. That’s the least of my concern about, did he say that test? He was, he said, GE, he talked about geese balls and gee does have some big old

Brian Friend (01:23):

Balls Savon, just so you know, I’m only here to see Taylor

Sevan Matossian (01:26):

<laugh> and the comments and the comments.

Brian Friend (01:31):


Sevan Matossian (01:32):

Ladies and gentlemen, day two, Jr. Howell was right about Joel. We will get to that. There was no reason to get excited. He’s not the hottest commodity, um, on the planet. It’s still Colton Mertons and tutor Magda

Andrew Hiller (01:48):

And Phil tune,

Sevan Matossian (01:49):

Huh? Phil tune. And he cannot grab Phil tune’s pubic cares. I take that back and, and just rip a handful out of his pants.

Andrew Hiller (01:57):

That was not long lived. That that Nicholas Joelle

Sevan Matossian (02:00):

Ran God. What a alpha move. Just grab a, did you guys ever do play sports where you showered with other dudes? Russ never got, I never got to do that. That must have been fun. There must have been some crazy shit that happened. The

Andrew Hiller (02:10):


Taylor Self (02:10):

I got woken up butt cheek fart on the face. <laugh> after a two day after a football, two day, I was laying on the bench sleeping and one of our linemen walks up to me, pulls his pants down, puts his butt cheeks on my cheek and

Sevan Matossian (02:24):

Faring. What if he would’ve charted?

Taylor Self (02:26):

<laugh> I would’ve, I would’ve, I probably would be dead.

Sevan Matossian (02:30):

I could love that word charting. They’re like, did they? The other day, my son’s like do girls chart. I’m like Uhhuh. He’s like, do girls

Andrew Hiller (02:40):

Do girls? I’ve had a buddy who tries to convince me every time this comes up, that everybody does it. And I, I always tell him that I’ve never charted ever. Wow,

Sevan Matossian (02:49):

Never. Wow.

Andrew Hiller (02:49):

I’ve never like had an accidental, like poop, fart.

Sevan Matossian (02:52):


Taylor Self (02:53):

But <laugh> wow. But have you ever shit

Sevan Matossian (02:55):

Yourself? Hey, all that means is you don’t take risks. Hiller. All that means is you don’t risks. That’s all. That’s all I hear. You’re not, you don’t take risks.

Andrew Hiller (03:01):

So you’re telling me that my buddies, right, everyone in the world has she themselves on accident at some point,

Taylor Self (03:07):


Andrew Hiller (03:08):

With the exception of like toddlers, where that’s always the caveat is that, you know, you can’t control it when you’re that old. You don’t remember.

Taylor Self (03:15):

And that was yeah.

Sevan Matossian (03:18):

Um, strength in depth, uh, barbell complex. Shall we start there? Uh, Christoff and who day? Two biggest lifts? Uh, both in heat, two, uh, Willie George with the second

Brian Friend (03:28):

One, one in heat two.

Sevan Matossian (03:29):

Oh, okay. Thank you. One in heat, one, one in heat, two. That means they suck. And, uh, Willie two, that

Brian Friend (03:33):

Means they sucked on day one. It could be the opposite of joy. Correct. In fact it basically was opposite of

Sevan Matossian (03:38):

Joy for her day. <laugh> oh, joy. Um, I’ll be running the back end until the lovely Matt SU comes. I apologize for my slow clicking of screens.

Brian Friend (03:50):

Um, does that mean Taylor’s asking the questions?

Sevan Matossian (03:53):

Yes. Let’s look at what happened here is, um, is Willy George the real deal? Um, the commentators are saying that he’s, uh, uh, possibly top 10, uh, material at the games. Uh, Mr. Self.

Taylor Self (04:06):

I think he, I think it’ll all depend on his shoulder previously. Like when he came onto the scene in 2018, I believe, um, with, by couplet one and two, I remember he smashed those two workouts. Uh, he did really well. What was his overall placing Brian in 2018. Do you

Brian Friend (04:23):


Taylor Self (04:24):

At the games? Yeah. Yeah. He won. He was top 10, right? He won by couplet two.

Brian Friend (04:30):

Yeah. He, he was 10th.

Taylor Self (04:31):

Yeah. So he’s for sure a top 10 threat. It just is a matter of, to me how, you know, it’s tough coming back from injury and it takes time. So it’s just a, you know, nine. Yes. Yeah. If, if not this year, then for sure. Next he’s a extremely fit dude. Very athletic.

Sevan Matossian (04:48):

He’s 29. Does he have a next year?

Taylor Self (04:51):

Yes. All right. Sam Briggs is 40.

Sevan Matossian (04:55):

I know. And, and, and you, you know, what did that, I think that era of that kind of athlete is, well, shit. I’d like to see someone else try that. I cannot believe she’s well, I guess it’s still early. I cannot believe that she thinks that it’s gonna be possible to go with a 65 kilogram <laugh> complex and then sit out for two. I mean that she could, if that happens, I’m joining the women next year, I’m doing it. I’m training up and Hey, you know what? And I’m entering the women’s division.

Brian Friend (05:23):

She only did it to get the points because there’s women who’ve withdrawn from the competition. So she had to record a lift. She gets 10 points of finishing last well, they didn’t even start the competition. Actually. It just wasn’t a full field. And uh, why, why stress her body on the last two lifts. If she’s not gonna beat anyone else, when she’s got three events that she could do well on coming up,

Sevan Matossian (05:40):

I hear you. I have some arguments to that. I’ll tell you once we, the rule, the rest of the sugars,

Brian Friend (05:44):

The rules specifically say that you do not have to make three attempts. You have three available opportunities to make

Sevan Matossian (05:50):

Attempts. I’m okay with that. It’s just the minimum. What was the next lowest lift?

Brian Friend (05:53):

Irrelevant. It’s a point system. This, where would address this issue,

Sevan Matossian (05:57):

But what, what’s the next lowest lift?

Andrew Hiller (06:00):

1 78,

Sevan Matossian (06:02):

Which was how many kilograms?

Andrew Hiller (06:03):

1 76. Um, I’m not sure about the kilograms it’s listed in pounds on the website.

Sevan Matossian (06:08):

And what did she get?

Taylor Self (06:09):

It’s 33 pounds.

Andrew Hiller (06:10):

1 43.

Sevan Matossian (06:12):

Okay. So she would’ve had to gone up a lot just to beat the next person. I’m not arguing with her tactics. I just can’t believe that that, that that’s gonna work.

Taylor Self (06:22):


Brian Friend (06:22):

It’s, it’s already worse than Colton. Merchant’s taking second to last on a rope event and he made it to the games.

Taylor Self (06:27):

He’s exactly right. It’s just a matter of how it’s just a matter of how, uh, how big is she going? He’s not, how big could she go on these next two workouts? She said she would come on with Emma qua by the way tomorrow.

Sevan Matossian (06:40):

Oh, she did cool.

Taylor Self (06:41):

Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (06:42):

Emma McQuaid and her will both come on. Yep. Close our eyes. And you can’t tell ’em apart when they talk

Taylor Self (06:48):

<laugh> I, you know, I was noticing, this is an interesting thing, kind of a sidetrack, but, um, who’s the girl Taylor, how her accent is. So like, I, I wonder what the kind of like nuance between like someone who’s from London and someone who’s like from the country or like different parts of the UK, cuz her accent is so fucking different. Like it’s I wonder if she’s would be like the redneck of Europe <laugh> and that’s not derogatory. I’m I’m a redneck

Brian Friend (07:15):

Of the, of the UK. It, it is distinctive. Yeah. I had a chance. Uh, so distinct after from

Andrew Hiller (07:21):

A redneck, I can say redneck.

Brian Friend (07:23):

Exactly. I went up to north, to north, uh, United Kingdom with, um, with a friend from over there and very, very different.

Taylor Self (07:30):

So north, so north is like where it’s, where they sound kind of so hard to understand

Brian Friend (07:35):

Kind of like Boston.

Taylor Self (07:37):

Gotcha. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (07:39):

She’s from Wales. They’re saying interesting. We don’t even know what that means here in the United States. Is that a different country, a different state? Like, does that mean you bow to a different king? Like we don’t even know what that means. Sorry.

Andrew Hiller (07:49):

Somewhere in the middle of the ocean.

Sevan Matossian (07:51):

Yeah. You’re and

Taylor Self (07:52):

I’m pretty sure

Sevan Matossian (07:52):

It’s not you’re on the same island. It’s still cold and rains a lot, uh, who day? Uh, 19th. Eighth. And then like you said, man, he did it. He, he did the joy L move a first and a second. Uh, are, are we surprised that he got, I know we’re not surprised at his first, are we surprised at his second

JR Howell (08:10):

Taylor? I

Andrew Hiller (08:11):


Taylor Self (08:13):

I’m a I’m I’m not too Sur. I’m not too surprised at that second place in that workout. There’s a lot of strategy that goes into that. And I really do think Andre Juday is an incredibly smart competitor. Um, and he is very, he’s very high skilled. So no, I’m not very surprised at that.

Sevan Matossian (08:36):


JR Howell (08:37):

I just thought was really impressive that he did that. Not racing against the fastest guys, not racing against the heat three guys. It was pretty impressive, but also too, just something good to note that if he does qualify for the games, um, this wasn’t what I would consider a long workout. However, um, this style of comparatively to workout one where it just wasn’t a good one for him, you know, is his capacity more so in classic CrossFit? Or can he translate that over to nonstructural workouts?

Sevan Matossian (09:08):

Uh, who, I just wanna say something here real quick. Who day won the, the, the bar complex with 330 pounds at strength and depth. The next workout that we’re talking about? I’m I’m shocked. I mean, I don’t know what his weaknesses are, but it was, it was dumbbell, deadlifts, handstand walk, box jumps, and toes to bar. And then some of that shit all over again. Uh, what was it in the first workout that crushed day,

Taylor Self (09:30):

He might be a bad runner.

Brian Friend (09:32):

Okay. He’s a deceiving runner. He looks amazing when he runs, he has like a perfect form. He seems like he is breathing well, but he is not actually that fast relative to the other guys.

Taylor Self (09:42):

And I wonder if that’s a pain to, I mean, what do you think, Brian, do you think it’s a pain tolerance thing, do you think he just does not have good running capacity typically when you see someone and that’s what that’s pain, that’s what, well, that’s what throws me off when I, when you watch someone run is when they look so smooth that typically translates to you being a really good runner.

Brian Friend (09:59):

I wonder if I wonder how often he runs on the air runner relative to outside because he does, he looks better running outside.

Taylor Self (10:06):

I know he has an air runner. I, I follow him and he trains on it quite a bit or at least it seems

Sevan Matossian (10:11):

So. So is that, is that what we’re saying? His weakness is it’s the, so to kind of compare this to GE GE we’ve said it’s his, it’s just, it’s everything that goes long. But with who day it’s specifically running.

Taylor Self (10:23):

I remember

JR Howell (10:24):

It’s all, remember it’s all compared to this field of athletes. And I think Brian alluded to it yesterday that he was surprised by several of the athletes’ performances on that workout specifically,

Sevan Matossian (10:35):

Give an example, gimme another example. What you mean, Mr. How can you gimme another example?

JR Howell (10:43):

Oh yeah, sure. So he did, he did that performance on event one against this field of athletes. If this field of athletes, um, like if the field of athletes at the Mac or at the syndicate had this workout at the beginning and who day was in that field, he may have gotten 10 spots higher because relative to the field, he wasn’t as weak on that workout.

Sevan Matossian (11:07):


Brian Friend (11:08):

We’re gonna see the same thing with the women in, in inverse lifting in this field.

Sevan Matossian (11:12):

I, I feel like I’m missing the point with what Jr’s saying, because

Taylor Self (11:16):

What he’s saying is this field is good. Very, very good at that particular workout and compared to other semifinals, like, like

JR Howell (11:23):


Taylor Self (11:24):

Yeah. Potentially. But I,

Sevan Matossian (11:26):

But they’re not, but they’re not, it’s an example, but it’s not a true example. This field sucks.

Brian Friend (11:30):


Andrew Hiller (11:30):

<laugh> this field does not sucks.

Sevan Matossian (11:32):

Yeah. No. Okay. Okay. I don’t respect them.

Andrew Hiller (11:35):

Yeah. Well they’re not American.

Sevan Matossian (11:38):

Well, that’s probably right.

Andrew Hiller (11:39):

All right. But they’re very good. They’re just not as strong as I thought they would be.

Sevan Matossian (11:45):

Uh, let’s go down to Mr. Janowski. Um, are we scared? He has in eighth place, he has 276 points. If you guys talking about him being, oh, he’s good for the last chance qualifier. That’s bad.

Andrew Hiller (11:57):

That’s so annoying too. I hate the last chance qualifier

Sevan Matossian (12:00):

Is, is that, are we talking last chance, qualifier for Yana Koski already? Or are we like no, no, he’s

Taylor Self (12:04):

Good. Six points to crack the top five. Uh,

Andrew Hiller (12:08):

He’s not gonna crack Andre who day and GME.

Sevan Matossian (12:11):

Oh no.

Andrew Hiller (12:14):


Taylor Self (12:14):

The hard calls that guy. I don’t know, man, that guy

Andrew Hiller (12:17):

He’s a brick shit house.

Taylor Self (12:19):

He’s got it. It’s like an athlete that has a big weakness and I bet, I bet he gets exposed on the what’s

Andrew Hiller (12:23):

His weakness

Sevan Matossian (12:24):

Is which one? Wait, who are you talking about before you say before? Who are you talking about?

Taylor Self (12:28):

What’s so funny. Brian’s

Andrew Hiller (12:30):

R either.

Taylor Self (12:30):

What do you think of GME, Bri

Brian Friend (12:33):

Ima well, you’re saying it way, way more respectively than, yeah. There’s

Andrew Hiller (12:36):

No R yeah. Sorry. There’s no R whatever GME, he’s a brick shit house and not being taken down by Kowski maybe Reggie FASA. I was

Brian Friend (12:45):

The only, the only outstanding question for, for Giam is the Lakers role climb workout. I mean, if you look at the things he’s done so far on this single modality test, the long amount of structural, the weight lifting, those have been bad. And now we have basically a gymnastics test in isolation and the other CrossFit style workouts. He’s been good. And he is generally good in open quarter, final style stuff anyway. So we’d expect that. So I think he’ll do fine on the last workout. So I just gotta see whether Taylor’s right about an implosion on the leg list or not.

Andrew Hiller (13:13):

I predicted 10th and a third.

Taylor Self (13:15):

Oh, he’s 2 0 7. I predicted 10th and a <laugh> he’s

Sevan Matossian (13:19):

Two. For who? For B, for Breon or for Janowski

Taylor Self (13:22):

Breon. He has a 10, three, a 10 and three, and so,

Sevan Matossian (13:24):

Oh, oh shit. Nice. Nice.

Andrew Hiller (13:27):

Yeah. Yeah. Feel wild if that happens.

Sevan Matossian (13:29):

Thanks for explaining the good jokes to me, Taylor. Uh, I wanna show you something. Um, Taylor, um, and Mr. How in reference to yesterday, um, we were looking just now at, uh, who day, who has a 19th and a second. And we’re, we were speculating that maybe it’s running look at, and then you can kind of see that same thing with Willy George, right. There’s quite a difference fourth and 11th. And then, uh, look at, um, Henrick Hapa, Landon

Taylor Self (13:59):


Sevan Matossian (13:59):

Let’s just call him Henrick YMI guy. He’s got a, a first and a fourth in those two workouts. So, so, and, and we know this, this guy comes from a triathlete background, right? So just super engine. Is that what we’re seeing there?

Andrew Hiller (14:13):

Was it Hendrick who had a triathlete background?

Brian Friend (14:15):

I think he’s talking about Ludvig Hanson’s marathoning background, but you know, Seon show

Andrew Hiller (14:20):

It’s I’m, I’m glad, I’m glad I helped

Sevan Matossian (14:22):

On that. I love big Kenrick.

Taylor Self (14:24):


Sevan Matossian (14:26):


Andrew Hiller (14:26):

Was a, that’s what Brian’s laughing at. He’s just laughing at our pronunciation.

Sevan Matossian (14:29):

Uh, so, so what’s going on with Henrick here? What, what are your thoughts on, on this first events?

Brian Friend (14:33):

If I told you that, uh, Henrick has guaranteed another event win tomorrow, would you pick the Lego rope climb or the thruster burpee and biking workout?

Taylor Self (14:41):

He takes big shots on the echo bike. Doesn’t he?

Sevan Matossian (14:45):

I’m gonna say thruster. Uh, what, uh,

Taylor Self (14:48):

What was he,

Sevan Matossian (14:49):

What was thruster? Burpee? What? Echo? Yep. Yeah. Oh man. That’s uh, how long is that one? What’s the time cap on that one?

Brian Friend (14:56):

Sure. It’s longer than the rope climbs.

Sevan Matossian (14:59):

I’m gonna give, I’m gonna say that one. I’m gonna say that one, that guy, that guy looks like he’s gonna be amazing at nine minute workouts of just work nine to 15 minutes. Which one? Which one’s it gonna take first on Brian?

Brian Friend (15:11):

Well guess we’ll see,

Sevan Matossian (15:13):

But it is, you cannot do that. You gotta make a call, make a call. <laugh>

Brian Friend (15:18):

Okay. Fine. I, I have heard that he will be in contention for the win on the rope climbs.

Sevan Matossian (15:23):


Taylor Self (15:25):

Right? Yeah. Cuz I was remembering, he didn’t, he didn’t, uh, ping my radar at the rogue invitational when they had that 24 20 workout and that’s kind of what it reminds me of. Um, and he was in that field, I think, I think at that point in the season he was it’s he, it seemed like he didn’t come into it, like with a ton of fitness that he was trying to carry through the games. Um, but I specifically remember not, it

Brian Friend (15:48):

Sounds like, uh, from talking to people who know him, it seems, it sounds like the rogue invitation was actually a, a kind of a turning point for him. He felt like he learned more in that competition than he did at the games. And he’s refocused his training since then. And uh, it feels good about the progress he’s made in the areas he’s targeted coming off of rogue, leading into this part of the season.

Sevan Matossian (16:07):

Right. So, so lemme just ask you this before I go down, I want to go down to, um, and talk about Christoff HVAT but are we saying that Janowski is not going to the CrossFit games through

Brian Friend (16:15):

This? I’m not saying that. Yeah. I think everyone down to ninth is, is, is well within reach right now.

JR Howell (16:22):

Yeah. The good thing about tomorrow’s workouts and potentially the most detrimental thing about tomorrow’s workouts is that they’re very, very narrow margins of air. And they’re both for the guys probably gonna be seven minutes or less. Definitely the legless and the net 21 15 9 workout has a nine minute cat for both male and female. So those times are gonna be a lot faster for the male. So you’ll see tons of separation, like every 30 seconds on both of those workouts.

Sevan Matossian (16:48):

And they’re both pretty, pretty CrossFit workouts too.

Brian Friend (16:52):

Mm. The first one’s kind of is it can be a bit of a specialty one. And we talked about these guys have reference it. This is a, a deep field. There’s a lot of guys that can pop up. So if you are just slightly below average on this one, instead of taking a 10th, you could take a 15th and that could be too many points gone.

Taylor Self (17:10):

What do you think about the body composition of some of these guys? Brian?

Brian Friend (17:14):

There’s a lot of guys. Do you have someone specific in your

Andrew Hiller (17:17):

You’re asking the wrong person? You either I step on or me about the body

Sevan Matossian (17:20):

Composition. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brian has never even seen a body. Everyone. Just ones and nose to him. Brian, just

Andrew Hiller (17:26):

The major. Why are you asking Brian?

Taylor Self (17:28):

What do you, cause I just wanted to hear what his take was on it. He gives a very technical take and I didn’t want to hear Savan call anybody fat.

Sevan Matossian (17:34):

Look at PD Savage, 15th, 14th, 15, 15.

Andrew Hiller (17:37):

You wanna hear Brian say it?

Taylor Self (17:39):


Brian Friend (17:41):

About PE are you suggesting all the men in Europe are competing with a healthy amount of body fat?

Taylor Self (17:47):

It it’s interesting. I mean, do, did you not notice that?

Sevan Matossian (17:52):

I didn’t notice that Alex, Alex, I did notice Alex Kuss body though.

Andrew Hiller (17:56):

What’s a healthy amount, Brian.

Brian Friend (17:59):

Well enough. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (18:00):

Brian, what’s a healthy amount.

Brian Friend (18:01):

Not depleted before the competition begins.

Sevan Matossian (18:04):

Who, who would you say is a fat boy? Taylor? Who’d you see as a fat boy, I asked,

Taylor Self (18:08):


Andrew Hiller (18:08):

It, turn it on him.

Taylor Self (18:10):

I asked Brian what he thought. Can we please get an answer?

Sevan Matossian (18:13):

Willy George looks like a fucking special force nightmare.

Taylor Self (18:17):

<laugh> and he’s GI Willie dude. He’s the

Sevan Matossian (18:21):

Only one about,

Brian Friend (18:26):

Can we put Taylor on the back end, then you go back to asking the questions.

Sevan Matossian (18:29):

Okay. Yes. Uh, um,

Andrew Hiller (18:31):

He wanted to talk about PD Savage and his even finishes.

Sevan Matossian (18:35):

Yeah. But uh, let’s. I wanna talk about Kristoff and then I wanna move on to the women. Um, Kristoff here, uh, just because is the home cooking show? He’s a friend of the show. He’s always been good to us. A 14th 26. Brian said he needed good finishes. Are these, um, good finishes Brian, this first and the fifth?

Brian Friend (18:50):

Yeah. I, I don’t think he would’ve expected to win with that number out of the first heat today. So I think he’s probably thought he could have a top five, but to get the win, there is probably a little bonus for him. And um, if we’re being honest, it really looked like who day could have gone for that. Right. Win. He moved that Barb up pretty well. Yeah. And then, uh, the fifth place is great. Again, he’s coming outta the first heat. So he is, you know, he doesn’t have that opportunity. Neither did who did and necessarily race against the other guys. And uh, fifth place. That first seat always good. He took 180 outta 200 available points. I don’t know what much more he could have asked for. He could do well on the Lego rope climb. He’s a big guy, but uh, the last workout should be good for him either way. So we’ll see,

Sevan Matossian (19:31):

Uh, the last workout being the echo bike thruster, burpy,

Taylor Self (19:34):

Legless run. Yeah. I thought Lego Rome was event six. No.

Sevan Matossian (19:39):

Okay. Either way is that Alice

Taylor Self (19:40):

Has it as a meant six. Got

Sevan Matossian (19:42):

It. So he can crush. He can crush the bike. Right. And he can crush the thrusters. It’s it’s it’s just the burpees that we’re he’s gonna be Kristoff’s the question.

Brian Friend (19:53):

Sure. They’ll be the worst of the three things for him. But I think he can manage those just fine.

Andrew Hiller (19:57):

What do we talk about Christoff Hoorvath or he is in 12. He’s gonna say die

Brian Friend (20:00):

To the show friend

Sevan Matossian (20:01):

Of the show. Cause he’s friend of the

Andrew Hiller (20:02):

Show friend, friend of the show. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (20:03):

Yeah. And this show is not new. This, this show is not fair and balanced.

Andrew Hiller (20:06):

I wanna talk about Reggie FASA. Who’s sitting in seventh. Okay, dude. He he’s head of the on Koski. I just

Sevan Matossian (20:11):

Wanna, is he fat? Taylor? Is he? We always is. Reggie Fassa fat. Hold on.

Taylor Self (20:14):

I don’t know. Do you think he is?

Sevan Matossian (20:15):

I don’t. I don’t even know. I can’t even remember what he looks like for you

Andrew Hiller (20:18):

Guys. Alright. He doesn’t look like freaking Willy George’s. I’ll say it.

Sevan Matossian (20:21):

<laugh> God all.

Andrew Hiller (20:23):

Now, now let’s talk about possibly making it.

Taylor Self (20:26):

I look right now and I haven’t worked out in a month.

Andrew Hiller (20:29):

That’s awfully rude. He’s performing better. He can always

Taylor Self (20:31):

Better. He’s killing people. I

Sevan Matossian (20:32):


Taylor Self (20:33):

That’s what I’m saying to do. It’s crazy to me. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (20:36):

He’s doing real well. Is that the one you wanna talk about? I’ll bring him

Taylor Self (20:38):

Up. No, not only him.

Andrew Hiller (20:40):

All right. Well Brian, however, his fourth hundred sixth like stacking up for him, possibly making a push. Is it gonna happen?

Brian Friend (20:47):

This is good. This is, uh, this is the kind of the best he’s ever done in one of these situations. He is, um, like from my perspective as just getting messages from people relative to what he’s done in the past, he’s the most overrated person I’ve ever seen. But I do think that he’s got a lot of potential. He’s very good on certain styles of workouts and by very good, I mean like has a potential to have worldwide wins in some workouts, in an open setting even, um, fourth and six is good. He hasn’t had a really bad finish yet. I think it’s all gonna come down to the rope climbs for him. I think it’ll be fine on the, on the last one again.

Taylor Self (21:17):

Uh, yeah. I have a big question about on the rope climb, he seems like a guy who just, he was at guap Polooza and he seems, I think this has a really good ability to hurt bad, which I think is what keep going. You know, a lot of people like that in a competitor. So when they see somebody who can hurt so bad, they’re like, oh, this guy’s gonna be fucking sick. Um, but the rope climbs, I have a question mark about,

Sevan Matossian (21:39):

He looks like he could be in the mafia.

Taylor Self (21:42):

Yeah. He just looks like a kid who like grew up in like the south of London and was just like beat the shit

Andrew Hiller (21:47):

Outta people. Scroll down his

Sevan Matossian (21:49):

Fell outta the Sopranos. He

Taylor Self (21:50):

Looks like a gangster dude.

Sevan Matossian (21:52):

Yeah. So gangster.

Andrew Hiller (21:54):

Yeah. That’s good. Yeah. There you go. What do you think Sovan?

Sevan Matossian (21:57):

Yeah. No, I don’t think no, no, no.

Taylor Self (21:59):

Pinky blinders like Peaky. Blinders. No, he

Sevan Matossian (22:01):

Looks good. I like him.

Andrew Hiller (22:03):

He blinders.

Sevan Matossian (22:03):

I like that body. And look, he got the skull on his chest. He’s fine. I ain’t saying shit.

Andrew Hiller (22:08):

Yeah, he’ll kill you. He’s in a mafia.

Sevan Matossian (22:10):

Ain. Shit.

Taylor Self (22:10):


Sevan Matossian (22:10):

Kill you. Ain’t saying nothing.

Andrew Hiller (22:13):

He’ll qualify for the games and then kill ya all. How about the women? Hey,

Sevan Matossian (22:17):

Hey, let me ask you this. Taylor, let me ask you this. Do you think that if he lost five pounds, it would help his performance? Is that what you’re saying? No. No. Be leaned up.

Taylor Self (22:25):

I mean, I,

Sevan Matossian (22:26):

Because I do see that in some athletes who think, oh, you probably could do better.

Taylor Self (22:30):

Justin Maderas doesn’t compete super lean. Um, I think you look at someone like Noah and you could make an argument for him competing too lean. Um, but I think it’s just, it’s dependent. So dependent from person to person and just like what, what naturally your, how your body likes to carry weight and how,

Sevan Matossian (22:46):

I mean, look at Fraser. Fraser was like a fucking hairy tele Tubby.

Taylor Self (22:51):

<laugh> uh, I don’t know. That’s the other thing is there were some times where Matt didn’t look so lean and then there were other times where like in 2018 he looked leaner than fucking Noah. Like he looked like he was ready to fucking like straight outta prison. Um,

Andrew Hiller (23:02):

Noah said he was too heavy at the games. Not long ago. You think he competed too lean then? Um, you think he would’ve had to have gotten bigger? Been like at 2 25 Noah?

Taylor Self (23:11):

No. No, I don’t think he needs to be heavier. I just like, look at Noah. Just looks like you have,

Andrew Hiller (23:15):

What do you think

Brian Friend (23:16):

Shreded Seth? What do you think about uh, 2021 games version of Howell? Was that was that good amount of leanness

Taylor Self (23:23):

Jr. Jr. <laugh> they get

Andrew Hiller (23:26):

A picture? Pull up a picture. Jr.

Taylor Self (23:27):

Doesn’t eat anything but red meat, fruit. That’s it. He shreded suppressive. He’s shredded diet.

Sevan Matossian (23:36):

Hey, um, guys, do you wanna, do you guys wanna talk about the, do you guys wanna talk about this? Go ahead, Brian. Sorry, go ahead, Brian.

Brian Friend (23:40):

No, I just wanted to bring that up as an example, different different things work for different guys. Yep. And I think that when you, when you,

Andrew Hiller (23:46):

I think I just saw S say he eats McDonald’s so that works. <laugh>

Brian Friend (23:50):

<laugh> no, but, but I think like that’s, you know, Noah has never has still not reached his goal. And so year to year, he’s trying to make adjustments to refine things, to maybe give him a chance to do that. So to compete lean one year and a little bit heavier another year. Makes sense. When you’re trying to just break into the upper operational, when you’re already established as a games athlete,

Sevan Matossian (24:08):

Dude, look at this guy’s profile pick by the way, I definitely have body fat inhibiting my testosterone production, but Hey dude, you gotta switch that. You gotta switch that profile pick. So you have DME I’ll, I’ll get coach you through.

Andrew Hiller (24:19):

That’s actually reading something about how people who abuse, peds and give out diet plans tend to give diet plans of too little fat. Because when you take peds, all of a sudden, you don’t need your body to produce testosterone. I’m getting on a rant here so that all of a sudden they forget because it’s their bias towards a low fat diet and you need to eat fat to produce a healthy hormone profile.

Taylor Self (24:43):


Andrew Hiller (24:43):

The gist what I’m saying? Yeah, that is good. That’s awesome. I eat

Taylor Self (24:46):


Andrew Hiller (24:46):

Yeah, one day like 300 grams of fat and I felt awesome.

Sevan Matossian (24:50):

<laugh> uh, Mr. Townson says that is true. Hiller.

Andrew Hiller (24:56):

I think he might be talking about the McDonald’s thing though.

Sevan Matossian (24:58):

Oh, um, you both, let me UHS. You always say that we’ve chatted several times in I G oh, so I haven’t given you any advice. All right. <laugh> um, uh, morning chocolate reported yesterday, um, in two separate articles, the strength in depth did make some adjustments to the ring height for the athletes. Uh, I, we, we love that, right? Yeah. Thank you for that. Even if everyone tells you no, do the right thing, right.

Andrew Hiller (25:26):

The right thing is always the right thing. Do you want caveat at that? With the Atlas game saying, fuck you, we’re not moving anything, but we will throw athletes at the rings.

Sevan Matossian (25:34):

Let’s leave that. Uh, til tomorrow, tomorrow we we’ll do some, uh, bashing. Uh, do we wanna talk, does anyone wanna talk about, say anything about this documentary that they keep pushing next generation? I, I just wanna say one thing about it. Okay. Go ahead. Brian

Andrew Hiller (25:46):

Has thoughts.

Taylor Self (25:47):

I want, yeah. I want Brian’s thoughts. I thought what he said was fucking perfect. And I want to, I wanna hear him kind of get a little deeper into that delve. A little deeper.

Sevan Matossian (25:55):

I don’t wanna spend too much time on it. You could say one thing

Andrew Hiller (25:59):


Brian Friend (26:00):

I already said what I wanted to say.

Sevan Matossian (26:02):

Okay. I wanna see what Brian has to say. Go over to his Instagram account. Um, he,

Taylor Self (26:07):

Dave’s not even in the fucking commercial

Sevan Matossian (26:11):

Don’t care. I don’t care about that. Um, because I’m not worried about DEI shit. There’s probably other Mexicans in it. But uh, this thing, how it starts in the beginning with Tia, Tomi justifying, um, her, her how much she trains and that she’s a professional athlete is a fucking embarrassment. It is an embarrassment to this sport. Tia doesn’t need to justify anything to anyone about how much she trains. She, they should just have her be like, Hey, I’ll go against anyone anytime, anywhere. Fuck you. Let’s do it. That’s what, that’s what the five times champ says not. I would put against my training against anyone else’s training because I think I’m a professional app. No, no, no.

Taylor Self (26:56):

Yeah. The narration was just kinda,

Sevan Matossian (26:58):

It’s so defensive. It, it it’s like we, we have nothing to prove.

Taylor Self (27:02):

And the other part of

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

It is no one wants any of Tia. Nobody. We all know that. Nobody go ahead. Sorry, Taylor,

Taylor Self (27:08):

What was, what I, what I kind of like laughed at was when Sean Woodland. No offense to Sean Woodland. I don’t know him, but when he was saying like, oh, you can’t really do it part-time anymore. It was like, they, they literally took that line from a previous documentary. And it was one from like 2016. And I was like, holy fuck. This is just the same exact thing we’ve heard year after year. Can you just create something new, please?

Sevan Matossian (27:31):

The best thing is when Tony in 2008 and every second count says this shit could kill you. That’s it? Yes. Good. It’s fucking hard. No one wants any of Tia. No one wants any of Matt. There’s nothing to prove. Just show us these guys grinding and going to war.

Taylor Self (27:47):

Did they show a slowmo replay

Sevan Matossian (27:49):

Of the it’s beautifully edited? The audio’s awesome. I hate to take a shot at it. It’s beautiful. I mean, it’s just absolutely beautiful, but, but I just I’m embarrassed for Tia every time I hear that opening thing. I mean, I’m truly am embarrassed for her. I get up and walk away.

Speaker 6 (28:04):


Sevan Matossian (28:07):

Just tell me how great you are. I don’t need you telling me that you train as hard as anyone. Just tell me how great you are.

Taylor Self (28:12):

I do think it’s pretty ridiculous that they have shots of people testing workouts at the ranch and, and the person who programed the 2021 games is not featured at all. Interesting.

Sevan Matossian (28:26):

Yes. Oh, you guys wanna hear what Brian said about it?

Andrew Hiller (28:28):

I wait to watch the same thing that’s been out for as many years. It’s the exact same freaking thing every single year. Yep. Like if you watched him consecutively, you’d be bored out of your mind after the second one, cuz it’s just like, oh, here’s an event. Here’s

Sevan Matossian (28:39):

An event. I don’t know. I like it. I like

Taylor Self (28:40):

It. 20 16, 20 16. And then the 2017 documentary were, were really cool back to back. Um, I thought the 2018, like the missing documentary that they just came out with. I didn’t like that one. Um, some of the newer ones have just been trash.

Sevan Matossian (28:58):

Brian, do you careful if we play a little bit of this, Brian,

Brian Friend (29:01):

I’ll just talk about it.

Sevan Matossian (29:03):

Okay, go ahead. Talk.

Andrew Hiller (29:04):

You now you’ll talk about it.

Sevan Matossian (29:05):

Do I talk

Brian Friend (29:06):

About it? You guess it got me fired up by continuing to talk about it. So let’s fucking go accomplished I guess. No, I just think, look, if you think about, if you think about the documentaries over time, they’ve always really been about the top person or the top two people. And so this year in general with the semifinal coverage, you know, one thing I’ve been trying to do is to create more coverage for more people. So the documentary in theory, the next gen is probably doing that where it’s focusing on the next wave that’s coming in. I just think it’s maybe a year or two early because I’m when I’m looking back at last year’s CrossFit games. I think I actually misspoken at Instagram video. I said five of the six, all six of the podium finishers from last year have finished on the podium previously. So there’s no one in the next generation in that regard, that busted onto the scene last year and did anything great. You have to go down to seventh place. They

Sevan Matossian (29:53):

Should actually be old. Pregnant lady takes third.

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