#441 – Bethany Hamilton

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

BA I’m more live. Corey, Alyssa, Elise, Elise, Alyssa, Elise, Corey. He BA Hey guys, we’re back. You know what? I should have done yesterday after the David Lucas show, I should have stayed on and just complained. I don’t wanna do anything weird to my guest, but that one, I was like, you know, sometimes you have to just try some shit. That’s like, just not like, like if you’re building something and it requires a screwdriver and a wrench, and you’re like, ah, maybe this is just gonna require a hammer. Like maybe I should have just brought out the hammer on David Lucas yesterday. Like, yo dude, what is going on? Are you outta your mind? You know, this is a live podcast, right? You goofball, maybe I should have gone toe to toe with him. I think I could roast with him. I think I could roast with the best of them sharp, quick.

Sevan Matossian (01:00):

I was, uh, I was gonna save this for my live call in show. I was looking at one of the comments in YouTube and there’s this there. Someone said something about me being a Q on guy or, or I see an Alex Jones comment every once in a while. And first of all, I, I don’t know exactly who Alex Jones is. I just know that he got kicked off of, uh, YouTube. And I don’t know anything about Q on, but you know, who does know about Alex Jones in Q on? I realized people who watch CNN. So isn’t that kind of funny? You watch a network that talk to you. Ah, look, there’s Bethany Hamilton husband.

Adam (01:36):

Hey, the husband is here. Adam,

Sevan Matossian (01:39):


Adam (01:40):

How are you doing?

Sevan Matossian (01:41):

Good. Good. Are you, are you in the jungle? Where are you? Belize?

Adam (01:45):

Pretty much. Yeah. Quiet. Quiet is pretty much jungle, but figure we just go with the theme and create the background. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (01:53):

Great to see you, dude. I watched, I watched unstoppable last night, so me and you were tight.

Adam (01:59):

Oh, right on. So you know the story. Great.

Sevan Matossian (02:02):


Adam (02:02):


Sevan Matossian (02:03):

What a great, what a great climax.

Adam (02:07):

So max so fun. I think we, I think we both kind of tear up every time we see it.

Sevan Matossian (02:11):

Holy cow.

Adam (02:14):

We’re, we’re stoked on how it all turned out and it’s, it’s incredible.

Sevan Matossian (02:17):

I, I don’t mean to geek out on the camera stuff, but there’s that drone shot at the end and the drone is sitting on the beach and it’s like a one minute shot. And you’re like, where’s this going? And she’s a dot on a wave. And then it gets closer and closer to her. I’m like, yeah. How did they do that?

Adam (02:31):

It’s incredible. It was actually the first time this guy did that, he was in a helicopter and they had this like, it’s called like a shot over attachment, like a red camera at the bottom of a helicopter.

Sevan Matossian (02:44):


Adam (02:44):

Makes sense. And they had a radio, this radio of, Hey, she’s going on? A wave, like go. And they just like timed it out with her

Sevan Matossian (02:50):

On the wave, like a real helicopter. Like when you sit in.

Adam (02:53):

Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (02:54):

It just sits on the cliff there like that.

Adam (02:57):

Yeah. They were just like hovering, cruising, waiting for the wave to come. And they just like, it was, it was really cool.

Sevan Matossian (03:04):

<laugh> and does she even know that’s gonna be the shot when she’s riding it?

Adam (03:09):

I don’t know. Maybe it’s in the back of her head, but I think the adrenaline was just pumping. She was focused. I don’t know. <laugh> God

Sevan Matossian (03:16):

It’s such a, I rebound it like two or three times. I’m like, there’s no way they got this in one take there’s. No. Oh, they did.

Adam (03:23):

You did. Yeah. It was pretty insane.

Sevan Matossian (03:26):

Pretty. Hey, we’ll reschedule Bethany for next week. We’ll just interview you right now. We have 90 minutes.

Adam (03:36):

Where are you located at?

Sevan Matossian (03:37):

I’m in Santa Cruz.

Adam (03:39):

Oh, nice. Yeah, we were just over there a week ago or 10 days ago? About,

Sevan Matossian (03:45):

Yeah. In Santa Cruz or down further south Santa Barbara.

Adam (03:48):

Oh yeah. We were in Santa Cruz. We did a event at, um, one of the churches over there. Had Bethany come speak.

Sevan Matossian (03:56):

Oh, cool

Adam (03:56):

Event. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (03:58):


Adam (03:59):

It was a quick in and out. We were there for like two days and then jumped back to Hawaii.

Sevan Matossian (04:04):

I can’t believe you guys do that three kids, right? Adam?

Adam (04:07):

Yeah. Yeah. Seven, four and one. So travel. We are on the road for five weeks with the three boys and it was, uh, yeah, pretty incredible. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (04:19):

Uh, anyone you ever seen anyone else on tour? Uh, breastfeeding.

Adam (04:25):


Sevan Matossian (04:25):

Never. So she’s the only one,

Adam (04:27):

Right? I dunno if it’s ever yeah, maybe

Sevan Matossian (04:31):

So dope. I just love that.

Adam (04:34):


Sevan Matossian (04:35):

I just, I would go to, I would go to CrossFit events. I remember. And, and even, even recently, um, you know, it, it there, I don’t remember seeing it actually at the world championships at the CrossFit games, but at the one right before that, the semifinals, I would see women doing that. I would see women, uh oh yeah. Compete in event at this crazy high level. Yeah. And then just run off to the side and pull out a boob and feeding time. I’m like, wow,

Adam (04:57):

That’s incredible.

Sevan Matossian (04:58):

Yeah. It’s hardcore. Right.

Adam (05:00):

I it’s so hardcore. It just puts most of us the shame

Sevan Matossian (05:04):

We’re just like, and I love it. We’re

Adam (05:05):

Even doing

Sevan Matossian (05:06):

I’m like that. Kid’s so lucky. What a great story Bondy has with his mom.

Adam (05:12):

Yeah. I know. That’s so sick. So sound video lighting. All

Sevan Matossian (05:16):

Good. You look, you look handsome and you sound even better,

Adam (05:20):

Dude. I’d say the same about you. Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (05:22):

Thank you. Thank you.

Adam (05:23):

<laugh> right. Well, I better go grab the little one or one year old. Make sure he’s not turned apart. Everything just wanna be the tech guy. Make sure everything’s all good. And um, yeah. Roger. That was good conversation.

Sevan Matossian (05:37):

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for giving us a few minutes of your wife’s time. Appreciate it. No, Adam, come back. <laugh>

Bethany Hamilton (05:49):

I know I’m like we just finished just speaking tour and I’m like, we need to tell the people to just let Adam come in for half of the event. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (05:58):

Dude, girl, you scored.

Bethany Hamilton (06:00):

Yeah, I did.

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

<laugh> what a cool dude. I watched unstoppable in like, uh, last night and man, you guys are killing it.

Bethany Hamilton (06:09):

Thank you. How do you say your name? Is it just Sivan?

Sevan Matossian (06:13):

Yeah. Seon.

Bethany Hamilton (06:14):

Okay, cool.

Sevan Matossian (06:17):

Um, when I I’m, uh, no, there be, Hmm. There becomes a point in your life when you have a name, like Seon, like you don’t even, it doesn’t even matter.

Bethany Hamilton (06:26):


Sevan Matossian (06:27):

<laugh> you know what I mean? I mean, appreciate do it

Bethany Hamilton (06:29):

That bad.

Sevan Matossian (06:29):

Yeah. Yeah. Or like I’ll have friends for, who have had for friends for like two years and they’re like, I thought you said your name was Seon. I’m like, it is. And they’re like, well, why didn’t you correct me? I say Savon. I’m like, dude, I can’t correct everybody.

Bethany Hamilton (06:42):


Sevan Matossian (06:45):

Ah, Savon, the arms are looking pretty defined today. Yes. It’s a small shirt. Thank you. And I just worked out and got really Bushey and, and bright eyed for, uh, for Bethany. I’m not letting her pull any fast ones on me.

Bethany Hamilton (06:56):

<laugh> I just woke up and barely made it here. So

Sevan Matossian (07:00):

<laugh> well, thank you. And what you’re you’re in Hawaii.

Bethany Hamilton (07:05):

Yep. We’re in Hawaii. We just got home like four days ago from a five week trip. So yeah, we’re super happy to be home.

Sevan Matossian (07:13):

<laugh> and Adam said you were in my neck of the woods. I’m in Santa Cruz. You were in Santa Cruz?

Bethany Hamilton (07:18):

Yeah. We went through Santa Cruz at one point, had a couple events there and um, but we darted all around the us. I think we went to seven different states and then we also went to Costa Rica just for a quick, like decompress after all the chaos travel

Sevan Matossian (07:36):

<laugh>. Well, do you, do you train seven days a week? Whether it’s in the water or outta the water, are you doing something physical?

Bethany Hamilton (07:42):

No. No, I’m not. At this point, I’m kind of in a season, I would say like off the water, like minimalist training and then in the water, just as much as I can get in there. And it’s definitely more surf dependent. Like if the waves are really good, then I’m, um, stop drop surf. But if it’s kind of average now my six year old, like surfing it’s like we just went on a vacation to Costa Rica and it’s funny cuz I’m at the point where I go surf and then I come in and then now my seven year old wants to go surf. So if I wanna surf twice, it’s literally like, go, go, go like nonstop. Um, plus like getting the other one boogie boarding and the youngest one flashing around. So it’s pretty full on I’m definitely. But I, I don’t know. I’ve just kind of been on a health journey I would say. And so I think part of that is just moving less. Um, I would say I was like kind of just maybe doing more than my body was, um, wanting and I wasn’t fueling enough. And so yeah, I’m just kind of slowing down lately and it’s in a weird adjustment, but I feel fine

Sevan Matossian (09:03):

The, the exact opposite of what the vast, vast majority of the world needs.

Bethany Hamilton (09:09):

Yeah. I know the majority of the world needs to move, whereas I’m trying to move, like I’m not trying to move less. I’m just not working out and surfing quite as much. So I’m still like moving all day long and living a healthy lifestyle, but it’s just, um, yeah, I just kind of, after I had my second son, I just wasn’t feeling good. And so I started problem solving that and um, yeah, it’s just been kind of a journey, I guess

Sevan Matossian (09:41):

Was the third one, the only home birth.

Bethany Hamilton (09:43):

I did three home births, so yeah, we’re pretty like hippie out here. My mom did home births. Um, both my sister-in-laws did home births, so yeah, my parents have, um, about 11 grandchildren and they’re all healthy home births, like not one, um, complication. So that’s pretty cool. Like <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

Of course not. Of course not. Yeah, of course not. Hey, was Adam, was Adam home birthed?

Bethany Hamilton (10:12):

No, he wasn’t.

Sevan Matossian (10:14):

Did did the in-laws trip that you guys homebirth because I know for people who don’t home birth, that can be a little bit unsettling.

Bethany Hamilton (10:19):

Yeah. I think it was real, a little uncomfortable for his mom, but I think she kind of rolled with it. She’s like, well, what am I gonna do? And I mean, we had a doctor and um, um, like a midwife at the birth. So wasn’t like, we were just free soloing it, which some people do that and all respect to them. But um, <laugh> I was just like, yeah, I don’t know. We just kind of prepared a lot for birth, both Adam and I and so going into it, we felt good about it and hoped for the bus and yeah, everything went good. Three, three times around

Sevan Matossian (10:55):

All in that same house in Kauai where you’re at.

Bethany Hamilton (10:58):

Yeah. Kind of like we moved locations for one birth cuz my midwives couldn’t get to me. The Island’s so small and most of the island has two lane roads. So at one point there was this crazy car crash. So we had to get across to our midwives. That was like the crazy first birth. And so I literally was like blocking across a car crash to get to my birthing location.

Sevan Matossian (11:23):

Oh wow. So

Bethany Hamilton (11:25):

Like, you know, they always have these weird policies, so no driving across the car crash until they like document it and all. So we literally had to walk across this like <laugh> car crash zone to get to the other side, which we were then picked up by our midwife

Sevan Matossian (11:42):

While you’re having like Braxton Hicks and contractions and all that

Bethany Hamilton (11:45):

Like full contractions, not, not

Sevan Matossian (11:48):

Braxton Hicks, not Braxton. Oh man. Crazy. Um, that kind of, uh, the, the coolest part. Um, we did home births also. We have three kids, uh, my wife and I, we did one, we had one and then twins, but the coolest part was, I mean, at least for me, what do I know? But the, we didn’t have to go anywhere.

Bethany Hamilton (12:08):


Sevan Matossian (12:09):

So like the baby comes out and your wife can just kind of like sit on a nest mm-hmm <affirmative> and I always trip on the fact like, how does, how do women move after they give birth? Like how, why, what in your mind makes it think it’s okay to put a baby in a car 24 hours after it was born. Like, it makes, it never made any sense to me or in a, in a, but, but you didn’t kind of get that leisure in your first birth, you had to move. Right. Because you had it away from your home and then you had to go back home

Bethany Hamilton (12:36):

And that’s what was so cool about like going into the birth. We were so prepared that like things don’t always go as planned and we were eventually ready for that. So it was kind of like, well, we’re still doing a home birth style, just not at home. And so yeah. I remember actually after we had our child, we ended up driving home at like one in the morning cuz we were like, oh, let’s go while there’s no cars on the road. And while it’s super mellow out. And um, we were kind of super alert and um, just felt like charging so <laugh> but it would’ve been nice to not have to do that. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (13:15):

Is that, um,

Bethany Hamilton (13:16):

Can I pause you for one sec? I hear my alarm going off.

Sevan Matossian (13:23):

I AMD I am paused, stop, drop and surf. I know, I love it. I think she was raised that way. I was just watching chef Chico’s mom as the mu Thai president of kurgastan and I think Bethany is,

Bethany Hamilton (13:40):

Yeah. I pretty much do whatever I need to do to get in the ocean when the waves are good. Like it’s kind of like a weird thing. Like surfer mentality. My parents basically taught me how to surf first work later <laugh> yeah. Like the opposite that most parents are like work first, then play <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (14:03):

So do, do you Carmen compartmentalize, you said you went on vacation. I was kind of surprised to hear you say that is your cuz like my life isn’t compartmentalized and I just didn’t picture your life. When I watched the, just the little clips on YouTube, your life just seems like one life. It’s just this life under God. <laugh>, you know,

Bethany Hamilton (14:21):

I guess I put a word to it because that’s what most people would call like what we did a vacation. Yeah. But for us it’s more of like a surf trip and just exploration. Um, we really love Costa Rica and like the wildlife down there is so cool and the place we stay it’s like, there’s no restaurants. You’re just in the boonies. We’re cooking all our own food. We as a family consumed like 120 coconuts in a week.

Sevan Matossian (14:47):

<laugh> wow. Wow.

Bethany Hamilton (14:48):

And then we all got waves and just kind of ed. So it was really, really a fun time, but yeah, we’re kind of just a family unit on the go, whatever it is that we’re doing. Um, we’re usually together and yeah, it’s a really fun lifestyle. I, I like bringing my children into my world and my life and think they’re learning a lot. So it’s pretty, um, yeah, it’s special. It’s unique. And we’re having fun

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

When, when you said that, um, the birthplace was gonna get changed, right. So you’re at home that there’s this plan here, but then you, you know, life is, uh, can throw you curve balls. And so it’s like, okay, you, um, did your, did your accent losing your arm? Has that kind of been a, a point of that? Well, that happened on that day and that, and I made it through that. So like I have a baby over there on that side little problem, like, is, is it, yeah,

Bethany Hamilton (15:45):

I think a little bit of that, but I also just think my mom kind of raised me that way too. We were very like free flowy, adventurous, like changed the plans real quick. So I kind of grew up with that kind of approach to life and just roll with it. And um, and so yeah, in hindsight, like if that had been my second birth, I probably would’ve just stayed home and you know, if the midwife,

Sevan Matossian (16:14):

Oh, just done it, right? Yeah.

Bethany Hamilton (16:16):

I didn’t. Well, it’s just, it is what it is. <laugh> but I don’t know if my husband would’ve been, um, super stoked, but I’m like, huh, you’re so amazing. Like you could handle easy, but our most recent birth, he, I feel like the weight of birthing children like hit him. He was like, whoa, that was heavy. Like, I don’t know if I wanna do that again. I was opposite. I’m like, yeah, we can do it again. <laugh> um, but like, I

Sevan Matossian (16:45):

Feel like what happened? Why, why, why did it take three? What happened in the third birth? Do you think they kind of shook him?

Bethany Hamilton (16:50):

I, I dunno. I don’t know. I really don’t know. I mean, there was Mo moment I did faint, um, and you know, there was nothing alarming, like, and he caught me, so I was faint and he caught me. So I guess that was pretty intense. Um, but I mean, he caught me, so we were all good, but it could have been a danger, but I mean, that could have happened anywhere. Um, but, and I have a tendency to faint. Like I usually faint at some point while I’m pregnant. So now I’m like more aware of it and just try to sit down as fast as I can if I’m like feeling that, that, um, sensation coming on. But yeah, that’s the only thing different. Otherwise our birds went really smooth. They’re like the intense part was less than two hours. Um, you know, babies were all healthy and came out with like a good cry and ready to just enter the world. <laugh> so I don’t know. You’ll have to ask him <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (17:56):

In, in, in the, in the videos that I’ve watched about you, you talk about, um, meeting Adam and he was first, um, he, he showed up on the scene for the rest of the world at your brother’s wedding. And that was the first time your family had seen him. But could I hear the story about how, where you saw him and met him? Um, it, it is, it is a unique person to be with any professional athlete. It requires a very special person to be with, with greatness, let alone someone. I, I think who is as free flowing probably as you are. Like if you don’t, if you can’t, if you can’t do that, then you’re destined for failure. So could you tell me how you met him and did you see these traits early on in his ability to accept this life?

Bethany Hamilton (18:42):

Yeah. Um, so when I first met him, we had been set up by friends. So the friends that kind of got him to move out to Hawaii, they just loved him and they’re like, we want him to stay. So let’s find him a wife. And he had been there a year and had just committed to another year. He was working with a group called, uh, young life. They’re just like, it’s a youth ministry, I guess. And, um, so we got set up on a blind date and we met up at a beach and when I first saw him, I was like, whoa, he is like a Spartan <laugh>. Cause he is just a big guy. He’s six, four, like built strong, um, really handsome. And um, and we ended up just going for a cliff jump. So we jumped off a cliff into the ocean.

Sevan Matossian (19:29):

Was he ready to do that? Because he’s, he was from Kansas. Right.

Bethany Hamilton (19:33):

I don’t know if he was ready because once we entered the water, I was like mermaid circles around him because I’m just like such a mermaid fish. And he grew up in Kansas, which he was landlocked. So swimming was very Kansas ish style

Sevan Matossian (19:48):

<laugh>, uh, Uhhuh.

Bethany Hamilton (19:50):

Um, but no, he was, he was down for the adventure I think. And yeah, I just started to get to know each other. And honestly, I don’t think he really realized what my life was, um, prior to marriage and, but he just is a really genuinely like kind sweet, um, just amazing human. And even though he didn’t really know, I would say he didn’t really know what he was getting himself himself into. Like God knew that he was right. And you know, it took a few years I would say to adjust. I don’t think he really loved the first few years of our life together and just adjusting to like what it is that Bethany faces and deals with and not just faces and deals with there’s so much good and beauty. Like there’s so much fun and incredible opportunities, but there’s also a lot of like just weight that comes with it. And

Sevan Matossian (20:54):

So what, what, what do you mean like hard work weight? What do you mean weight?

Bethany Hamilton (20:57):

Yeah, just like, I don’t know, meeting people all the time. Um, just kind of, you know, we chose to continue doing a lot of the things that I was already doing, like motivational speaking and you know, just traveling and that’s not for everyone. Like not everyone would enjoy our life, I would say. Um, there’s very much like on the go and a lot of attention. And it’s funny because you know how you got to meet Adam right before I jumped on <laugh>. Um, I always noticed that like, everyone’s so excited to meet me and then they meet Adam and he is like, he ends up being the star of the show. So it’s really sweet because I don’t really love the attention. And so, um, <laugh>, it’s kind of cute. Like he ends up kind, just being able to be the family representative <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (21:50):

Oh, he’s

Bethany Hamilton (21:51):

Great time.

Sevan Matossian (21:52):

He’s great. He’s great. In the Mo he’s great and unstoppable too. I watched unstoppable

Bethany Hamilton (21:56):

Last night. Yeah. And like, we really wanted to portray our life really honestly, in that. And you know, you kind of see him wrestling with like just, you know, being my husband. And I would say, I don’t know, I it’s hard for me to put words to it, but it was just a season of adjustment I would say. And

Sevan Matossian (22:21):

The first two years,

Bethany Hamilton (22:22):

The first two to three years and oh, my alarm’s going off again. You can and silence the phone,

Sevan Matossian (22:29):

Feel free, do it, do what you want. It’s your show. It’s a Bethany Hamilton show your alarm, get a glass of water, go pee, do some jumping jacks. Maybe you might have to unplug it.

Bethany Hamilton (22:44):

It was my alarm to like, come and say hi to you.

Sevan Matossian (22:48):


Bethany Hamilton (22:48):

Good. Cause I was scared. I was like gonna make <laugh>. I’m glad you did. Um, but yeah, like it’s been just, I mean, our marriage is really amazing and I really am so grateful for him and it just like, for me as a child, I really hated all the attention. I didn’t like fame. I didn’t want any of that, but I had a heart for people. So there was this motivation because people were writing letters from all over the world saying like, if you got back on your board, I’m gonna get back on mine. Like that sort of, um, uh, emotion and what’s the right word. Like, uh,

Sevan Matossian (23:25):


Bethany Hamilton (23:26):

Yeah. Just inspiration, encouragement to, you know, face their challenges in a, in a, I can do it sort of way. And so, um, yeah, it’s just been really cool to kinda fast forward now being we’re coming up on nine in August and we’re just such a unit. Like we just teamwork everything and he has his strengths. I have mine and we meld them together and work together and um, it’s pretty cool.

Sevan Matossian (23:59):

<laugh> what do, what do you think that they, your friends saw? Do you think it was the Bible connection? The Jesus connection, the God connection where they’re like, okay. Cuz his parents are pastors, right? His dad’s a pastor.

Bethany Hamilton (24:09):

No, his family is not in the church in that way, but um, yeah. I definitely think like sharing faith, um, was huge. And I honestly don’t know. My friends had a little girl who had met me in a physical therapy office cuz she had been run over by a car. And so we had interacted there and it was cool for their daughter just to be around me and just see like me taking care of myself and she was having to do some rehab for her body. So I think the mom just gravitated towards me and was like, oh my gosh, like they might be perfect together. I don’t know exactly. <laugh> and then also him just being so tall and um, me being tall, I’m like close to I’m about five 11. So wow. Yeah. Just, I don’t know. I guess they just thought maybe

Sevan Matossian (25:02):

<laugh> so the boys are gonna be big.

Bethany Hamilton (25:05):

Yeah. I think our boys will definitely be at least six feet maybe as taller, taller than my husband. I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (25:13):

<laugh> um, how is that with uh, four boys nows?

Bethany Hamilton (25:16):

Well, we have three boys. Um,

Sevan Matossian (25:19):

But you have him too. Yeah. I included Adam.

Bethany Hamilton (25:21):

Oh four boys. <laugh> yeah, I know. I’m definitely the only girl. Good thing. I’m a tomboy and ready for adventure. Um, yeah, it’s awesome. I always wanted to be a boy mom. Um, I’m not gonna lie. I was like anticipating maybe a little girl, um, for when Micah arrived, but Micah is just the funest little dude ever. He is so cool. And just our little firecracker screamer. Um, the one that’s just like I’m outta here, I’m going outside and you either come with me or I’ll be on my own <laugh> um, so it’s been really cool. Um, just having three boys and I don’t know, we’ll probably go for four. So <laugh> maybe we’ll have a girl in there

Sevan Matossian (26:12):

When, when you’ve, when you, what was your, when you took Tobias on tour and you were breastfeeding, um, was it just like for you? Is it just like duh and for other people? Was it like, whoa, no one we’ve never had a, a pro surfer in between sets or, or I dunno what you call them in between runs, uh, come and feed another human being.

Bethany Hamilton (26:31):

Yeah, I know for me it was really relaxing and just, I love breastfeeding. So it was kind of like a really cool way to decompress in between heats because you know, there’s so much adrenaline and blood rushing and just like emotions going on. Um, and just, just drive. So to kind of like have that space to slow down and just like take your mind off, like the stress or the, the, um, determination of the moment. It was kind of really nice actually, but yeah, none of the girls, I don’t think any of the girls even have children on the tour. So, um, I think it was really fun for them to have like little ones running around and the event, one of the events that we were at was in Fiji and we’re all staying on the same island together. So it was kind of fun just like throwing the children in the mix and all of a sudden I have like 10 other babysitters on hand <laugh>. Um, but yeah, it’s, it’s definitely indifferent like nursing and taking care of children and finding your focus in that moment. And um, yeah, just kind of finding the balance.

Sevan Matossian (27:44):

There’s all of this stuff. It’s um, all this talk about glass. Okay. We need, we had a first vice president woman. We, we need a president woman, the CEO of this company should be a woman like, oh, we have our first NASCAR woman we have. And there’s just all this stuff like that. But the real cool thing is just a woman doing what she really just wants to do has no relationship to whether she’s a woman or not.

Bethany Hamilton (28:13):


Sevan Matossian (28:13):

And then she still can do her woman shit at the same time, which is feed the baby. That’s that for me, that’s the, that’s the greatest impact. That’s more powerful than, than being a, uh, um, the first CEO of, of some huge company as a woman. It’s if you were a CEO of that company and in the meeting, you were breastfeeding your child, then I’d be impressed.

Bethany Hamilton (28:36):

Yeah. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (28:38):

Then I’m like now, now you’re. I mean it’s so when I saw that and I loved it in the movie, how it’s not even a big deal, but I know it’s a big deal cuz my wife breastfed and like, and then you start seeing like, some people think it’s like a big deal. You’re like, what do you mean it’s not a big deal or the home birth. Some people think the home birth is a big deal, but it’s not. It’s just like the actual big deal is. Um, do you ever think about what it would be like to have a, does it scare you to have the thought of having a baby in the hospital?

Bethany Hamilton (29:05):


Sevan Matossian (29:06):

<laugh> because I’m always like, those are the, those are the brave people. They think you’re brave. Good to home birth.

Bethany Hamilton (29:12):

I mean, I wouldn’t say they’re necessarily brave. I would just say that they don’t really, they haven’t done their due diligence. A lot of the times, not all of them, there’s some women who are going into birth no matter where they’re birthing their child very thoughtfully and with like a lot of intention and plan and just, they have a good grasp on what’s going on. But I think a lot of women nowadays are just kind of like along for the ride and they don’t even really realize what’s going on. Their, their preparation is very, like, they don’t know what’s gonna happen after birth in the hospital. And um, so yeah, I uh, would not be content <laugh> in the hospital, so that’s partially why I burn that home. I just don’t like hospitals and I think for breathing, you really wanna be comfortable. So for some.

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