#431 – CrossFit Nordic Original & Viktor Disqualified

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Sevan Matossian (00:00):

You don’t look like you don’t look like Victor. Bam we’re live.

Antonia (00:03):

No, I don’t think I am Victor. <laugh> ah,

Andrew Hiller (00:06):

Hilarious. This is me,

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Antonio. This

Andrew Hiller (00:09):

Is me, Antonio.

Antonia (00:11):

This is me. That’s nice.

Sevan Matossian (00:13):

What country are you guys in?

Antonia (00:16):

Sweden?

Sevan Matossian (00:17):

That’s one of those countries that when we fly there from the states, I don’t even think we, at least when I was there, I think I visited that’s where Mads lives, right?

Antonia (00:25):

Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (00:26):

I think I visited there and um, I, oh, that’s cool. Someone’s gonna be squatting in the background.

Andrew Hiller (00:32):

God,

Sevan Matossian (00:33):

I hope there’s.

Andrew Hiller (00:40):

There’s not, she hopes there’s not <laugh> I told her she’s gotta be quiet. Putting the bar down.

Sevan Matossian (00:45):

No, she doesn’t. No,

Andrew Hiller (00:46):

She we’re in, we’re in Sianna’s world now.

Sevan Matossian (00:49):

No, no, no. She’d tell her be as loud as she can

Andrew Hiller (00:51):

Be as loud as you can. He says,

Antonia (00:54):

Uh, bringing some action.

Andrew Hiller (00:56):

That’s right.

Sevan Matossian (00:56):

I think when I, I think when I flew there, I, I didn’t even need a passport. I think, I think basically you just walked through there. Wasn’t even customs for Americans. Is that, that country, one of those countries up there, one of those guys are good guys.

Antonia (01:10):

Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:11):

Are you guys good guys mean

Viktor Långsved (01:12):

It’s not like in the states, but you, we have customs, but it’s not if you’re it to the us. It’s it’s no custom.

Sevan Matossian (01:19):

Yeah. They don’t dittle you like they do in the states. Oh

Antonia (01:22):

No, no. Basically you get like to choose between two lines. Like you have something to declare, then they trust you to go in and declare that and otherwise you can just stay through.

Sevan Matossian (01:31):

Yeah. That was a good time.

Antonia (01:32):

Yeah. <laugh> they trust you guys.

Sevan Matossian (01:35):

And uh, and it’s MAD’s wife who owns the gym that you guys train at?

Antonia (01:39):

Yes.

Sevan Matossian (01:40):

Yeah. That’s cool, man. What a small world.

Antonia (01:43):

Yeah. They’re really good guys. Mads and Jenny

Sevan Matossian (01:46):

And they, and they St and they’ve had that gym for how long?

Antonia (01:49):

Ooh, I don’t know. Like, what is it now? Like maybe

Viktor Långsved (01:53):

12, 13 years.

Antonia (01:55):

Yeah. A long time. Oh,

Viktor Långsved (01:56):

Wow.

Sevan Matossian (01:58):

Um, are, do you guys work there? Are you guys just trained there?

Antonia (02:02):

Um, I work there as well. Uh, I coach competition classes there, so like a little bit of like higher level class. So we offer different, you know, types of classes for different types of members, obviously. So yeah, I do.

Sevan Matossian (02:15):

Victor, is there any part of you that wishes, um, that you wouldn’t have made that post, that like you could go back and just ignore the whole thing? I, no. Cause I could, we, we could switch the podcast and pivot and I could ask you about other stuff if you want.

Antonia (02:29):

I mean,

Viktor Långsved (02:30):

I think, I think that if I knew that I was doing something wrong, I would probably not post it, but since we know that we have done everything right. I just, I just wanted people to know like the story

Sevan Matossian (02:46):

A and when you say that you’ve done everything right. Do you think that, um, just to start off here, do you think HQ has done everything right also?

Viktor Långsved (02:53):

Uh, no.

Sevan Matossian (02:54):

No. Okay. So it’s not too. You think that maybe they they’ve done not, maybe you suspect, you know, um, that they’ve done something wrong.

Andrew Hiller (03:03):

Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (03:04):

Yeah. Okay. And Antonio, are you on that page also?

Antonia (03:09):

I mean, definitely. I mean, I think the basic problem here is that we’re looking very differently on the rule rubric this year. Um, so from our perspective, we’re being judged by the 2018 rule book and like looking at the 20, 22 rule book, that’s a completely different story. So as I’ve been on a team before, I knew that 2018, it was required to take that kind of photo. And, um, looking at that rule book, that was very clear. And now looking at the rule rubric from 2022, it was not a requirement. So we basically looked at like, we have a gym attendance system. So when we saw that, that could be, um, offered as proof we saw, we saw that that could be enough. And then of course we had pictures and everything from sessions that we’ve done, but not from each and every session because that was not required.

Antonia (03:57):

So for us, we’ve done like basically what the rule book says. And I mean, as many people have mentioned, we’re a pretty professional team. So we look through the rule book from the beginning just to make sure that we all knew that we could commit to doing everything right. And for us, it feels a little bit like CrossFit is now changing the rules for us. So now we need to provide proof that we did not know that we needed to have. And if we would’ve known that we would have taken those types of pictures, but now we’re getting no chance to do so.

Andrew Hiller (04:31):

Two questions,

Sevan Matossian (04:32):

Hiller, just so you know, when you’re not talking, I mute you, but not because of the weight lifting, but because of the birds, so,

Andrew Hiller (04:38):

Oh, okay. I’ll I’ll kill the

Sevan Matossian (04:39):

Birds. No, no, you’re good. No, you’re good. You can, it’s not bad.

Andrew Hiller (04:43):

I don’t like birds. Anyway. Birds, birds are the worst. They’re in the background. They’re gone. There they go.

Sevan Matossian (04:48):

You scared ’em away.

Andrew Hiller (04:50):

No, I closed the garage door.

Sevan Matossian (04:51):

Oh, okay.

Andrew Hiller (04:53):

Uh, my, my question for my first one is, is did, were you familiar with the 2018 rules before? I know it’s something that I mentioned in the video of mine. I’m assuming it’s something that you knew of, but just curious.

Antonia (05:04):

Um, yeah, I was definitely, I was on a team 2018. Okay. So for me, I sent this to CrossFit as well. So I showed them like the difference they have in the rule book. So I wanted to highlight that because I thought that the 2018 rules were very clear, extremely clear to bonus, and we followed each and every rule back in 2018 and had no problem with that team whatsoever. And just comparing those two rule books for me is such a big difference. And that’s, that’s why, like, I really see that that’s a problem because now they’re applying rules from back in 2018. And there’s a different story for this year. This rule book is different.

Sevan Matossian (05:40):

Okay. I, I just wanna, sorry, Andrew. Um, before we dive start diving in, I wanna say two things. I don’t know, who’s in charge over there at CrossFit HQ of that, but there are two people over there that I know that, um, I mean, they’re, they’re just Adrian Bosman, uh, is in, I, I think is in charge of, of half the games. And I know Curtis Bowler’s in charge of drug testing. So I’m guessing somehow he might be involved in this. I’m not, I’m not positive, but those two guys just are. Um, when I worked there, they were as top tier and as thorough as could be, I can’t imagine them ever, if they thought you could get in, I’m just telling you my bias. I have to imagine that they would’ve let you in. I mean, those guys really want the show to go on.

Sevan Matossian (06:22):

I know Andrew sometimes talks about, um, favorites and things like that. Uh, even, um, recently he said it in the video. I don’t, I, in my time there, I never saw anything like that. So I just want you to know my bias. I, I look up, I looked up always to, uh, Curtis and Adrian. So, um, and then, and then to make some clarity on the 2018 rule book, what you’re suggesting, and I think I agree with you a hundred percent is the 2018 rule book. Shouldn’t be involved in this at all. This is new, this is a new rule book. The rule book should be complete. You shouldn’t have to sift through previous rule books. So what did you see that was different? That, that you’re, uh, that you’re pointing out.

Antonia (06:58):

So if I’m, uh, gonna mention that it’s definitely the three times per week. So in the 2018 rule book, it says three times per week with no, uh, exceptions. And that’s like a weekly, uh, demand. Now it says regularly. And the majority of the time, which is a different story. It also says specifically how you’re supposed to prove that you are training each and every week, three days per week. And it says there that it’s a picture that needs to be, uh, present with the, the date of that day. So what we did back in 2018, we took pictures, holding our phones, just to show the date on the screen. And I have those pictures still left from 2018 and they take up like gigabytes of my phone still. And I just remembered that so vividly. And now in this year’s rule book, I looked for all of these things.

Antonia (07:51):

And it said that you could prove like you, that you’ve been training regularly with social media posts, whiteboard pictures, uh, and then the gym software. And so when we had the gym software tracking every entrance, we thought that that would be enough. And just to make everything clear, we provided over 40 like gym check-ins. But the problem here has been that we have had to prove each and every check-in because they do not trust that the check-in is accurate. And we don’t really know why here is like the problem from our side that it feels like we are getting suspected of like faking a gym attendance log. And then when we prove that we have like a picture for almost every check-in, they still do not believe that all of the check-ins are real. So that’s a little bit where we like disagree with each other, to be

Sevan Matossian (08:39):

Honest. Okay. Let, let me, uh, get some things here. So there’s a sign here. There’s or in the rule book, the current one documentation demonstrating the athletes are active members of the team’s affiliate should include proof of the following. The athletes live within a hundred miles. Do you live within a hundred miles? Victor? Yeah. Okay. The athletes active members of the affiliate signed waivers. Have you done that? Yeah. Uh, the athletes are regularly training at the affiliate. Um, so this is so there’s these two words here regularly and primarily right. They’re so we don’t have a metric for that. Hi Alex. Good morning.

Andrew Hiller (09:13):

Good evening. Good evening. Oh, good morning. Or good evening. I know what time it is.

Sevan Matossian (09:17):

<laugh> uh, so, so those are the things how just to put it in perspective, the, the official start date of this is when is, is it January one,

Viktor Långsved (09:27):

13th of January,

Sevan Matossian (09:29):

13th of January. And how many days have there been, do we know how many da days there been between 40 doesn’t seem like enough for primary and regularly? Does it because that’s, that wouldn’t even be half the days, right?

Viktor Långsved (09:42):

No, but 40 is what we have, like in picks and stuff like that. I mean, yeah.

Andrew Hiller (09:48):

Then you need

Viktor Långsved (09:49):

40.

Andrew Hiller (09:50):

Yeah. And then you need to understand that when we started to count days, it, they started to count out of like every day on the, during the week. So like seven days a week. And I would, I would say that nobody’s training seven days a week.

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

I wouldn’t say I would. I agree with you.

Andrew Hiller (10:07):

Yeah, exactly. So when it comes down to proving how much you’re training and trained primarily, then you need to like, first of all, look at how much are you training. So if you look at seven days a week, of course it’s much more, but no one is training seven days a week. And when it comes to training, PRI, maybe not even that. And then when it comes to train, primarily you need to look at how much is Victor training. Like Victor and Antonio, they went to VOSA Victor got COVID, uh, Victor had an eye surgery. And if you take all of these sessions all of these days and take it out out of the counting, then it’s a totally different number. So, oh yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:50):

Sorry. Yeah, those. So I guess there’s a distinction there too. That’s really weird. Also. I would think that if you guys were, if you guys traveled together and did waza together, you get credit for those days. It’s not your, it’s not, um, I mean, what if you were competing every week and you were training the affiliates one day a week because you were competing, it would seem unfair that team wouldn’t get to, what if training’s part of your, uh, what if, uh, competing is part of your training, which it is, right? Yeah.

Antonia (11:19):

I mean, we had this discussion with, uh, with them, with CrossFit and actually we like, like, um, you mentioned, we agreed upon these like 75 days of possible training days. Um, and that takes into account, obviously that we went to WAP, Palooza to compete. Um, both me and Victor, uh, got COVID. So we were sick for a long period after that. So we started training a little bit after, uh, the deadline, but the guys were active members before. So out of the possible training days, I, I think like with that discussion, we made like a decision to count 75 days. And that’s where this 40 comes out like 40 is what we were aiming to prove because in the call with, um, the employee at CrossFit, he said that we needed to prove 51% of those 75 days. So we aim to prove then that 40 of our check-ins were accurate by providing proof for that proof. So basically, basically, that’s what we’ve been doing with this number 40. So this number 40 is not the actual amount of check-ins that we have, we have more than 40 check-ins, but we decided that we were trying to prove them 40 check-ins to be on the safe side of training, the majority of the time at Nordic, which we Victor has done. So that’s what we did.

Sevan Matossian (12:40):

Well, if I, if I look at January, uh, if I look at January from starting from January 13th, is that what you said Hiller,

Andrew Hiller (12:47):

Correct? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (12:48):

If I, if I look at January, February, March, April, I don’t count any days in may I get, uh, 61, uh, 89, uh, 99, I get 106 days. What you’re saying from there there’s only 80 training days and of those 80 training days, at least 40 of them. Okay. Okay. And in your number, you came up with 79, not 80. Okay. Yeah.

Antonia (13:12):

Yeah. So we, Victor, they deducted, uh, rest days, and then they deducted the, the period he was sick and the period he did eye surgery. So that’s basically how we came up with that number. So everybody gets that

Andrew Hiller (13:24):

Who’s days they, you, or they crossed mess, who deducted crossed it. They, they did that. Okay, cool. Yeah. And then after long discussion, after, long after I lost and yeah, and then we have had the quarter finals and the quarter finals, they were quite tough, both for like your body and for the mental part. And after that, the weekend after we had a competition and I mean between two weekends and the training, the training in between, we had a few days in the gym, but not like real proper training. It was more to get together and do the final part for the competition. And I find it really hard to count these days, as well as like, you need to be in the gym to collect days when you have first quarter finals and then travel days and then another competition. So when it comes to,

Sevan Matossian (14:13):

I live, I live 2000 miles from Hiller, but I talk to him every day on the phone for an hour. I think we would get, we should get a credit for a tree.

Andrew Hiller (14:19):

We would be a great team <laugh> or join us,

Sevan Matossian (14:22):

Vic, Victor. Where else did you train since January? Where else have you trained?

Viktor Långsved (14:27):

Uh, in my hometown.

Sevan Matossian (14:29):

And, and is there a gym there or in your own garage?

Viktor Långsved (14:32):

Yeah, it’s my gym.

Sevan Matossian (14:33):

Oh, it’s your own gym? You’re an affiliate owner too.

Viktor Långsved (14:36):

Yeah, I’m a co-owner.

Sevan Matossian (14:39):

Wow.

Andrew Hiller (14:39):

You’re not the licensee of the license, are you? No. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (14:44):

Do you, um, do you have a, um, a log of what days you train there?

Viktor Långsved (14:51):

No, we don’t have, uh, we don’t have like the, the same kind of system as, uh, Nordic does.

Sevan Matossian (14:58):

Right. But then go ahead.

Andrew Hiller (15:02):

Yeah. Sorry. Uh, and, uh, even though he, he train at another place as well, we tend to train quite a lot, a lot outside as well here in Sweden. We used to run really, really much here and so on, and it’s pretty hard to, to collect proof for that, but that part of how we train and has always been. So

Viktor Långsved (15:24):

Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (15:26):

At any time during the season, um, in the last year, because you knew you were gonna do this for the last two years, right. Victor, this has been like, kind of like a two year, um, plan.

Viktor Långsved (15:38):

Yeah. I, I, I mean, during the pandemic, uh, I started to like, think about going team and then, uh, I started to talk to these guys and then when we, we knew that we could do it some sometime last year, we, we just like decided to go for it. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (15:57):

Did you guys think Alex and Antonio, did you think that Victor was, um, going to be good enough to be on a team with you too?

Andrew Hiller (16:04):

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Have known each other for, yeah. And if, for, if we’ve known each other for many, many years. Yeah. So this is not like, Hey, who are you? Do you wanna have like a team for a year? I mean, we’ve been friends like for the last 6, 7, 8 years. So we pretty, pretty known, like know each other really, really well.

Antonia (16:26):

I mean, basically looking at like the potential male athletes that we could choose from, like Victor has been so close to qualifying himself many times, and I know that some podcast has gotten this wrong, but, uh, he has never been to the games to my knowledge. Uh, but he’s been so, so close. So I really, I felt like he deserved to go to the games to be honest. Uh, so when we put this team together and he, uh, said that he could make these sacrifices driving to, uh, train with us the majority of the time we thought that obviously that’s because he really wants to go to the games. Right. Because he’s tried for the last like seven years. And now we saw this opportunity where we could get a team together. That would be very competitive. And, uh, Victor was definitely one of like first choices, but we had to check with him if it, he could make it work. Uh, but yeah, definitely he’s a perfect team athlete. He’s good at everything. And he’s a funny guy. So we have a lot of fun together

Sevan Matossian (17:22):

For those of you listening. I asked around, uh, the, the conventional wisdom is that they are a top 10 team in the world and that they could have finished as high as third so that they, they actually did have, um, podium chances. I mean, that’s, that’s not science, that’s consensus, but, um, so, so you, I mean, obviously there was some serious training that went in. Was anyone else on your team investigated?

Andrew Hiller (17:44):

Yeah, me and I knew like, yeah, I live, I think it’s like four or five miles from, from Nordic, but it comes down to like, do a train enough there. Cause I have my office at another gym in the basement. Uh, so I have my office there for free and it’s like five minutes from my apartment, but I still do all my kind of all my training at Nordic. Sometimes I go outside for run. Sometimes I do my training at other place, but the minority of the training I do at Nordic, uh, but I got investigated as well. And that’s why they first disqualified the whole team because oh,

Sevan Matossian (18:25):

Because of you.

Andrew Hiller (18:26):

Yeah, because both me and Victor got disqualified. Uh, so after the last call with them, when we sent all the proof, they accepted my proof, which was pretty much the similar proof as Victor, but they accepted like 15 more proof from me. So they let me in, <laugh> let me in the, in the game again. Um, cause I had an extra guy on the team. They let the team continue the season. Do you guys feel as if some, sorry, I gotta ask because you, you said that they looked into it because of you first. So do you guys feel as if somebody ran it on you cuz that’s generally one of the ways that they look into people in the first place? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (19:06):

Someone definitely ratted on you. Someone definitely ratted

Andrew Hiller (19:08):

On you. So do you think Alex, you think that they rat it on you and then Victor was kind of the byproduct of them looking into you? No. Think I think it is that because they know that both me and Victor didn’t train at Nordic before, but they knew that and Tony did. Uh, so they found kind of an opportunity to rat out me and Victor for some reason. I think

Viktor Långsved (19:33):

That, uh, I think that someone Googled my address, Googled the Jim’s address and then just click directions. Uh, then it’s not within, it’s within 100 miles, but if you drive a car, you know, it’s, it’s

Sevan Matossian (19:48):

Like as the Crow flies, it’s a hundred miles.

Viktor Långsved (19:50):

Yeah, exactly.

Sevan Matossian (19:52):

Yeah. Do you have crows there?

Viktor Långsved (19:54):

Uh, yeah.

Andrew Hiller (19:54):

Crows.

Sevan Matossian (19:56):

They’re taking over the world. They’re taking over the world. They’re fucking everything up. <laugh> um, who do you know? Who ratted you out?

Viktor Långsved (20:04):

No, no.

Andrew Hiller (20:04):

Would love to.

Antonia (20:05):

It’s anonymous.

Viktor Långsved (20:06):

You know,

Andrew Hiller (20:06):

I’d love to. Yeah. I’m more like you

Sevan Matossian (20:08):

Rat. I’m not, I’m not, I don’t really like this. I, I don’t, I can’t articulate it. I don’t like the fact. And, and, and I, and I wanna come in defense of, um, of Adrian and Curtis or whoever’s over there. Who’s doing this again. They’re being put in a position where someone told on you. Yeah. And now they’re being forced to referee it. Yeah. There’s like some gustapo shit that like, I don’t really like, it’s like, it’s like if I called my it’s telling the police telling them that my neighbors were dealing cocaine, but they’re not just to fucking ruin their Christmas. Right. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (20:39):

Yeah, exactly.

Antonia (20:40):

And maybe that’s what happened here. Like another team felt very threatened or someone just does not like a person on the team. And

Sevan Matossian (20:47):

Do any of them have bad breakups? Anyone on your team have a bad breakup in the last

Antonia (20:50):

Six months guys?

Andrew Hiller (20:51):

I don’t know. No, not what I know.

Sevan Matossian (20:52):

<laugh> uh, oh, Alex is quiet.

Andrew Hiller (20:57):

No, I mean, it, it must be me because Victor is a really likable person. So, so I think that it’s on me, this one, but yeah, it’s just annoying. It’s hard to, to, to kind of find proof against something that you don’t know, what you need to find proof against. Let me, it’s super easy for, to me to, to wrap on every single team out there. I can, I can sit, tear behind my computer and write an email and say that, man, I know that the girl on mayhem, they are not living there. Now. I know it, but yeah, don’t, don’t call my name out. So if I were to give my Instagram over to CrossFit right now, they would have access to like 20 plus cases of people who have written to me from the semifinals over the past couple weekends of teams that were in contention to qualify or have qualified for the games, with situations that sound much worse than you.

Andrew Hiller (21:50):

And I’m one guy who can only make so many videos and I covered you guys’ issue because it’s a big thing, but I could make so many different videos on so many different teams and I’ve covered the couple of ’em the, the issue becomes it’s like, why you guys, why is CrossFit making the big deal about you? Yeah. And why won’t they look into teams in Canada or teams in Iowa or teams in that sort of deal? You know? Yeah. Like they’re, they’re like on the cusp teams, but it’s like this, person’s a head coach over here slash owner over there. And CrossFits never going to address them. Maybe some, because somebody hasn’t ran it on them and somebody hasn’t

Sevan Matossian (22:24):

Ran. Well, we also don’t know if they’ve been investigated. I’m hearing that, uh, mayhem independence.

Andrew Hiller (22:27):

And that’s the thing too. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:28):

I’m hearing mayhem. Independence was thoroughly investigated. Camo athletics. Uh, team was thoroughly investigated. Four teams from Argentina have been disqualified. One from Sween one from the Netherlands. So it’s not this isn’t isolated.

Antonia (22:41):

Correct. So, but what I’m wondering is we actually asked about like, do you have any type of like example of a team that has been investigated and that has like gone through the process and not being disqualified. Can you send us to show us what we need to show you in order to let us through? And they send us nothing back. They did not want to make an example of what would be accepted. So what we did basically was from our own, like from our own view, we had to come up with the most, you know, clear way of showing that we had followed the rules, but it was not fully clear to us like how we needed to prove that. And I think that’s why we went through three rounds of evidence. So first we sent in pictures and we sent in attendance logs. And then we were told that that was not like enough. So we sent in even more proof. But

Sevan Matossian (23:36):

Then when you say not enough, it’s not enough proof because there is something weird going on here, Antonio you’re asked, we don’t know. Let let’s say the criteria is 51%. Yeah. You guys are right on the line, right? Yep. You guys, you guys sent 40 days of 79 or 80. What, whatever we’re gonna decide on, but it’s right on the line. Um, so, so did those original, did the, that original not satisfy the number of days or it wasn’t clear enough evidence? Do you see the distinction?

Andrew Hiller (24:08):

Not Mike helping, just letting you know <laugh>

Antonia (24:12):

Oh,

Andrew Hiller (24:13):

Okay. Sorry.

Antonia (24:14):

So, um, first of all, like we thought that the attendance login itself would be proof enough because it says so in the rule book. Uh, so when we got that back, we heard that like CrossFit suspected that some gym out there, he did not want to say that it was us, but that like, some people could fake an attendance log, which is obviously true. Right. Um, so we tried with social media because we knew that we had,

Sevan Matossian (24:37):

But that’s also not your problem.

Andrew Hiller (24:39):

No, no, no. I partly say this.

Antonia (24:42):

Um, but we wanted then of course, like since we’ve done nothing, like we’ve done nothing wrong. We really have really tried following the rules here. So we were like, okay, sure.

Sevan Matossian (24:49):

Um, what if a driver, what if a cop, sorry to interrupt you. What if a cop pulled me over and I showed him my driver’s license and he said, that could be fake. Like, fuck you. <laugh> yeah,

Andrew Hiller (24:57):

Good.

Antonia (24:57):

It could, but what, what are you gonna do about it? Like, right. So we just wanted to make, make sure that they realized that that tenant log was real. So we started sending in social media posts of those specific dates. So we matched the date to the date of the attendance log and showed that during the same time of the day, we posted on Instagram that we were there and training and we did some work with the worm. And then we get back that social media could also be fake. It could be posted another day. Then the actual photo was taken or the video was taken, which is of course also true. But right now this is becoming our problem that social media could be fake or attendance logs could be fake, even if that’s the proof that they originally asked for in the rule book. So for us, then it became a problem of, okay, so now we need to have photos and videos from the original device. And as you all know, you don’t save each and every video you shoot in Instagram stories, you don’t save that

Sevan Matossian (25:51):

To your phone all the time. Right? Right.

Antonia (25:53):

Um, so sad. We had deleted some videos that was on Instagram. So we started getting desperate and like looking through our phones and trying to find original photos and videos of these days to match. Then the attendance dates that we had already sent in. And just to clarify, the attendance log is proving more than 40 days. So we’re not on the line in, in terms of how many times we’ve actually been there. We’re

Sevan Matossian (26:16):

What does the attendance log look like? What does it look like? Is it, is it handwritten or is

Antonia (26:19):

It ed? Uh, no. It’s a PDF document that you export from the system. Yeah. So it’s basically, it says check in with a time and a date and it says, check out the, the system checks you out. Uh, I think it’s four hours later automatically because we don’t check members out. They just lead when they’re done. Uh, but they check in with the, the card or in the reception. Uh, and that’s the way it works. So we just took that out of the system and it becomes a PDF file. So it says the date, the time, the name of the member, uh, and when they were checked out. So that’s basically what it says. Um,

Sevan Matossian (26:52):

If the four, if the four of you got together and you sat down and talked at the gym and ate something and put together a plan, does that constitute a training day?

Andrew Hiller (27:01):

Not too bad. I don’t know. Maybe I don’t know what I don’t mean. It comes on if I have a picture from that, it might have been okay. But

Sevan Matossian (27:08):

If the four of you met at the gym, it was a rest day and you came together to discuss strategy for the, a semifinal. Would that be, would that constitute a training day or?

Antonia (27:19):

I don’t know. You have to ask CrossFit, to be honest. We only showed proof of the days that we actually did team training.

Sevan Matossian (27:25):

Like, like actually sweat lift shit.

Viktor Långsved (27:27):

Yeah. Since I live, like we usually away, I, when we talked, like we did talk strategies and stuff like that. Uh, but since I live 90 minutes away, I wanted to, when I was going down there, I wanted to train. Yeah. So we did all the, if we had like meetings, we had them before or after training or we had them, uh, like we are talking now on the phone.

Sevan Matossian (27:52):

Do, do you know what’s else is interesting here. Sorry, Antonio. I know I interrupted you. Oh, you go, it says teams will consist of at least two men and two women who validly register for the open and train primarily at the same CrossFit affiliate starting no later than the start of the open registration for the current competition season. That also leaves that every day between now and the games, the competition season is still going. So even if you didn’t have enough days, if you were to train together from here on out all the way up to the games that that would fulfill the days. I mean, if, if, I mean, if words mean anything, I, I don’t know. I don’t know if, what, what, I don’t know what happened in your country, but my country doesn’t mean shit anymore.

Andrew Hiller (28:28):

I mean, if you guys would, it would be totally fine for us. If they read the rules the same way as you are doing,

Sevan Matossian (28:34):

You could get another 60 days. They could tell you, Hey, you need you guys better train together the next 45 days in a row together, Victor, you better fucking sleep in the driveway, dude. Yeah,

Andrew Hiller (28:43):

Yeah. Yeah. We, we ask that, we ask that and we said, I mean, we can do as you, as you wish from now, but it’s impossible for us to collect all these proofs like from now and four or five months back.

Antonia (28:55):

Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (28:56):

But from now on, we could easily do it. And we said that in the beginning of may. Uh, but we didn’t didn’t get the response on that either. But yeah.

Sevan Matossian (29:06):

Um, when you, when you tried to collect the evidence, how deep did you go? Did you send out, did you ask everyone in the gym? Hey, does anyone have photos from this day? Yeah. If you were at the gym training, you took a photo of your, a ER on your hand. Can we see it? Maybe Victor’s in the background, like that kind of shit.

Antonia (29:20):

Yes. We went full FBI. <laugh> um, like seriously, I think I spent collecting that evidence and like, for us to write it all together because we made a calendar also to show them like patterns so they could see that we’ve been training every Wednesday, for example. Yeah. Every Wednesday has always been team day. We usually train all weekends. So we train, uh, Saturday and Sunday where we train. Um, so we tried to show patterns as well. So they would see that, okay, we can see proof from this and this. Uh, and then we collected evidence in folders. So it would be very easy to click through them to see every specific date every specific month and what evidence was in there. So I think I spent like, from, from.

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