#430 – Jack Della Maddalena & Justin Medeiros

Caleb Beaver (00:00):

Did you send them the links already?

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam we’re live. Yeah. I sent the links, uh, Austin Hartman. Justin Sevan hates people on the east coast. You know, I was thinking about the east coast the other day. And when I went there as a little kid,

Sevan Matossian (00:17):

I got a great story. The first time I was in New York, someone tried to mug me. I was, I was like in the seventh grade and a kid, another kid tried to mug me. I was walking around the Bronx, but I didn’t know I was being mugged, but that’s a different story. Uh, the east coast always there’s a, uh, it, it just doesn’t feel as free as the west coast, all those toll roads. And just the way the city was set up in Jersey and Baltimore, I always thought, wow, this, I, it feel, it feels like, uh, like Europe, like London, London doesn’t feel like you’re in a free country. It’s weird.

Caleb Beaver (00:50):

I got tagged with a toll the other day and I didn’t need,

Sevan Matossian (00:54):

Are you on why you’re not on the east coast? Where are you? I thought you’re like in Iowa, that shit feels free as hell.

Caleb Beaver (00:59):

Yeah, exactly. No, I live in Virginia right now. I got a, went through a toll bridge. Didn’t realize it didn’t pay the toll because I’m from Nebraska and we don’t have that.

Sevan Matossian (01:10):


Caleb Beaver (01:11):

Got another letter in the mail from a debt collector saying I owe like $80 or more. It was a $5 toll. Now I owe like $90.

Sevan Matossian (01:20):

Oh, damn. See,

Caleb Beaver (01:22):

It’s fucking crazy here.

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

I saw this great thing the other day. They were saying how, you know, it, it kind of stopped. But about five years ago, there was like a 10 year run on like just the craziest anti-smoking campaign. Right. And I remember thinking, man, this is kind of harsh. This is like, almost like Nazi shit. Like you can’t, you’re not allowed to smoke outside your house. You’re not allowed to smoke in some cities. Like they told you, you had to stand in the street to smoke. And like, I don’t wanna defend smoking. I know smoking’s bad for you. I know I don’t wanna breathe in secondhand smoke, but just the way, uh, if you’re, if, if, if your neighbor still smells you smoking, um, you can press charges. There was just a bunch of stuff. And it was like starting to get more and more intense. And uh, now we can’t even keep homeless people off the streets in California. Like we did this huge push to get rid of smoking. It’s just, I don’t know what’s going on with this, with this hierarchy of ideas of what’s important.

Caleb Beaver (02:25):

Those homeless people are crazy in Knoxville.

Sevan Matossian (02:28):

Oh, what do you mean? Crazy?

Caleb Beaver (02:29):

There’s just so many of ’em.

Sevan Matossian (02:30):

Oh really? Oh. Cause the weather probably, right?

Caleb Beaver (02:33):

Yeah. It’s great weather over there and they’re just, there’s hide out and bus stops and I found like needles and a bunch of bushes. Places. Yeah. And

Sevan Matossian (02:42):

Drug addicts,

Caleb Beaver (02:43):

For sure.

Sevan Matossian (02:44):

Yeah. I’m gonna stop using that word. Homeless. Let’s just call ’em drug addicts. The drug addicts are addict control here.

Caleb Beaver (02:50):

It’s it’s nuts.

Sevan Matossian (02:53):

It’s hard to watch UFC on the east coast because it’s on so late. I know. I always wonder about that. Everything. Right. Even like all, all the people on the east coast aren’t that special. Chevon hates everyone equally inclusive. Thank you. Yeah. So this guy told me this friend of mine text me and said the last two, uh, shows. Weren’t that good? I mean, I am, I am sick. I’m definitely sick today. I was feeling so weird. That’s why it was the first time in a long time today. I think it was this morning. No, no. Last night I had to, I had to go pee in the middle of a show. Cause before the show started, I drank a pint of water with like 4,000 milligrams of vitamin C. I’ve been drinking so much water,

Caleb Beaver (03:35):

About 3,900 milligrams. So that’s gonna come out in your piss anyway.

Sevan Matossian (03:40):

The thank you.

Caleb Beaver (03:41):


Sevan Matossian (03:43):

Uh, I, I, uh, the, um, someone asked me if I, if I hated the Rob forte, Jay crouch, Brian friend interview, I didn’t hate it. I just haven’t figured out how to get Jay crouch to like talk in full sentences. I was glad Rob forte was there. I just, I just wanna have a conversation with people. He has a nice smile, but I was working, but I was working. There’s some pot. Like I didn’t work this morning with hunter McIntyre. You don’t have to work. I, I, I actually, when I look at this picture of Rob and, uh, Jay, I actually have fond memories of the podcast. It was cool. It was great that we got Brian on too. I’m pumped for this weekend. I last weekend was like this, uh, this whole cross for things, cutting into all my UFC love.

Caleb Beaver (04:37):

Yeah. How are you gonna watch it? It’s like three events on three different time zones for you,

Sevan Matossian (04:43):

Uh, this week coming up, right? Yeah. Yeah. That’s driving me crazy. Oh shit. So UFC 2 75 is not even until the following week.

Caleb Beaver (04:53):


Sevan Matossian (04:54):

Okay. So we, so we got this guy early. We got this guy 10 days early, man. What? A card? What a card. They had Robert Whitaker on it too. Who we talked about with Rob forte yesterday.

Caleb Beaver (05:09):

Yeah, I got canceled. Why?

Sevan Matossian (05:14):

Uh, I don’t know that. That’s that’s a good question. Let’s ask Jack. Hey dude,

Jack Della Maddalena (05:18):


Sevan Matossian (05:20):

Bam. Jack. Bye. Um, Jack’s here.

Jack Della Maddalena (05:22):

Howson how are you, Mike?

Sevan Matossian (05:24):

Good. That’s I could, I could hear that booming over a stadium. As you walk in, Jack is here.

Jack Della Maddalena (05:31):


Sevan Matossian (05:33):

Oh my goodness. Hey, could you, can you make your walkouts? Oh shit. What happened? Hello? Oh, oh. Did I go away for a second?

Jack Della Maddalena (05:42):

Hello? No, I saw it.

Sevan Matossian (05:43):

Hold on. Oh wow. My computer turned off for a second. Uh, can you make your own, um, walkout song? Like could you have a DJ mix it, yeah,

Jack Della Maddalena (05:50):

You can. Oh yeah. I think you can. I think you can make whatever.

Sevan Matossian (05:55):

No. Wow. Can can’t you imagine you’re in that giant center in, in Australia fighting for the championship and like you hear these Godzilla footsteps, a voice code Jack is here and then lights. Come on.

Jack Della Maddalena (06:13):

That sounds awesome. I might do that.

Sevan Matossian (06:15):

Thank you.

Jack Della Maddalena (06:16):

He’s not very good with making music.

Sevan Matossian (06:18):

Oh, no. Someone like someone’s just gotta love you and do it.

Jack Della Maddalena (06:21):

Someone would do

Sevan Matossian (06:22):

It. Yeah. Like some DJ who loves you. Hey, are, are you influenced by, uh, are you influenced by, um, your fighting style by, uh, Nate Diaz at all?

Jack Della Maddalena (06:33):

Not really. I sort of have watched a lot of NAD as fights and sort of take, try and take some things from him. He’s pretty a he’s pretty good fighter to watch.

Sevan Matossian (06:42):


Jack Della Maddalena (06:43):

I dunno. I like that boxing sort of style and his style sort of boxing. So maybe a little bit similar.

Sevan Matossian (06:50):

Yeah. I, um, I was, when I was watching, going back and watching all your fights again, last night, I saw you doing this thing. I, I think it’s with your right. It’s it’s, it’s a bitch slap, but you keep your hand closed. It’s like a, I felt like I was seeing like a Nate Diaz slap, but you keep your hand closed.

Jack Della Maddalena (07:04):

Yeah. Right?

Sevan Matossian (07:05):

Like you, you came straight with the left and then this thing just comes across and just kind of bitch slaps the guy. Yeah. It looks horrible to get hit by. It looks horrible.

Jack Della Maddalena (07:13):

Yeah. Slaps the legit weapon. I reckon it sort of, if you get them right on the ear, it sort of stunts them for a bit. Then you can try and put it shut on behind it. Oh. But yeah, I definitely stole that from Nate.

Sevan Matossian (07:24):

You did?

Jack Della Maddalena (07:26):

Yeah. He does that a bit. And I think it’s, he does it. I think it’s sort of like for him, it’s people like to see it, but I think it’s actually effective technique.

Sevan Matossian (07:36):

It was like you were club and with you, it’s more like a club. His is a slap. Yeah. But I saw yours as kind of like a club.

Jack Della Maddalena (07:43):


Sevan Matossian (07:45):

Man. How that last guy you fought? Uh, uh, Caleb, can you pull up? Um, uh, I wanna, I wanna say that guys again, that last guy you fought took some shots from you.

Jack Della Maddalena (07:55):

Yeah. I landed a lot of jabs. Just my lead shot. Just sort of popping him there. Weren’t like massive shots. So just a lot of them.

Sevan Matossian (08:03):

Yeah. So this guy, sorry. Was this the last guy or was this two days? Uh,

Jack Della Maddalena (08:07):

That was my second last fight.

Sevan Matossian (08:09):

Yeah. This guy took some shots, dude.

Jack Della Maddalena (08:12):

He took some big shots. He took some real big shots.

Sevan Matossian (08:17):

Do you have a parrot or someone tied in the basement?

Jack Della Maddalena (08:20):

<laugh> that’s actually my dog.

Sevan Matossian (08:22):

Oh, you got married?

Jack Della Maddalena (08:25):

Married, married, man.

Sevan Matossian (08:27):

Yeah. Was that just two months ago?

Jack Della Maddalena (08:29):

It was March. So three or four months ago? Yeah. About four months ago.

Sevan Matossian (08:35):

Why, why did you get married?

Jack Della Maddalena (08:38):

<laugh> I don’t know. I felt like I was just, uh, found the right woman and wanted to lock it up.

Sevan Matossian (08:48):

<laugh> yeah. And do, do you, do you feel a sense of relief or excitement about the or both or?

Jack Della Maddalena (08:58):

Yeah, a bit of both. Like I’m excited about the future. I think I found a good woman, so I’m a, yeah. I found everything I need in a woman. So I feel like I just made the decision, but yeah, I’m excited for our future.

Sevan Matossian (09:12):

I’m excited. They make her look cool in the videos. They make her look cool in the videos.

Jack Della Maddalena (09:16):

<laugh> that’s the most important thing.

Sevan Matossian (09:19):

Hey, do you tell her too, like, Hey, when the cameras are here, no matter what, we cannot fight no slip up. Just perfect honky, Dory.

Jack Della Maddalena (09:28):

Nah, to be honest, all the, um, you have to reduce like when they’re videoing us, we have to redo stuff and then it’s quite, it feels real awkward. Yeah. Cause it’s quite, to be honest, a lot of the videoing of us is quite unnatural cuz they say, oh, that was nice. Can you do it again? And then it’s quite awkward from that point on,

Sevan Matossian (09:48):

Hey, you gotta be like, you just gotta tell ’em Hey motherfucker are youre looking at the future Walter weight champ. You get that shit right? The first time we hit that shit on mark <laugh>

Jack Della Maddalena (09:58):

I know. Or next time I’m gonna

Sevan Matossian (09:59):

Do that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You have a great sense of humor, but you, you should just, uh, mix that with your, uh, bullying.

Jack Della Maddalena (10:06):

<laugh> I will

Sevan Matossian (10:10):

This guy, um, oh yeah. So your picture isn’t black and white. Did we get to the bottom of that? If you, if you guys, if you type in UFC schedule on Google, a beautiful schedule will always pop up if you use the safari browser and um, and you can see all the fights prelim early prelim’s main card. And if you go to the main card on June 11th, UFC 2 75, you’ll see it’s over to Sherra and Yuri Prochaska. And uh, and then if you scroll down, everyone’s in color except jacked Jack D Matt. Yeah. I, that

Jack Della Maddalena (10:42):

It’s weird. Hey,

Sevan Matossian (10:44):

If you’re a vampire, maybe you don’t photograph in color.

Jack Della Maddalena (10:48):

Yeah. Maybe I was just a bit ill that day. A bit of cold. I don’t know

Sevan Matossian (10:54):

Who is this dude? Ramon AIE Hey, sorry. Before you tell me who he is, does that piss you? I was watching all the interviews you’ve done so far. And like some of the, the guy from like heavyweight MMA, he’s like telling you about him. He’s like, well, he is got a good jab and what you should probably do is this. And like he, he do, you know what I mean? He’s <laugh>, he’s like your coach, you handled it well and your humble as shit. But I always wonder, I wonder if that’s getting it bothering Jack?

Jack Della Maddalena (11:19):

No, that sort, I just listen. Some everyone has their own, like things of what they think I should do. So I just sort of listen and maybe they have an good, a good idea that I could take from em, but sort of got my idea what I’ve got, my idea, what I think I need to do for the fight. And that’s what I wanna try and do. Doesn’t piss me off too much.

Sevan Matossian (11:40):

No. Do do you like it even?

Jack Della Maddalena (11:44):

Um, I don’t mind it. I just sort of listen to it and sort of see what I, what they say. And if I think it’s good, I will take some stuff from it. I just, to be honest, it’s annoying when a lot of people do it. When some, when you speak to some rounded person, they say, you need to do this, this and this. I go, okay, thank you for that.

Sevan Matossian (12:04):

Yeah. Like if your brother does it, it’s all good, right?

Jack Della Maddalena (12:07):

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. For sure. You’re

Sevan Matossian (12:09):

Like, yeah, let’s go for a walk and talk about it. Like you get excited,

Jack Della Maddalena (12:12):

Right? Yeah. Yeah. True. It can be annoying if the, if the wrong person does, it can be annoying, but I just sort of just take it.

Sevan Matossian (12:21):

Like if your mom’s like Jack, just pull his hair and hold him on the ground. Jack. Just pull his hair. <laugh>

Jack Della Maddalena (12:29):

That’s a, that’s actually a good one. He doesn’t have much hair though.

Sevan Matossian (12:33):

This dude is so awesome. I DMed him after the first episode and he actually responded. I’m a huge fan. Future welder, weight champ, Dylan, Val,

Jack Della Maddalena (12:39):

Dylan. Thank you, Dylan. Legend.

Sevan Matossian (12:43):

I’ve you know, I’ve, I’ve seen just about it. All we saw Alman get knee in the head while on the ground. We’ve seen dudes get kicked in the nuts. I haven’t, um, ever seen anyone get their hair pooled on purpose. Have you ever seen that in a fight?

Jack Della Maddalena (12:55):

No, I don’t think I have.

Sevan Matossian (12:57):

I haven’t even seen, I don’t see the girls do it either. There’s

Jack Della Maddalena (13:00):

There’s not a lot of dude fighters that have long hair. When I think about it, it

Sevan Matossian (13:05):

Could be that guy Glover’s fight and has that little thing on the top. Glover should grab that thing.

Jack Della Maddalena (13:11):

I would grab that thing. If that

Sevan Matossian (13:12):


Jack Della Maddalena (13:14):

Shing. That’d be perfect.

Sevan Matossian (13:17):

So who is this dude? Uh, Ramazan. AISE

Jack Della Maddalena (13:22):

Ramon’s a, a Russian man. He’s he’s pretty well rounded fighter. He’s got like a strong majority of the Russian fighters have like a pretty strong wrestling base. So I think that’s sort of his go to is sort of the wrestle. Try and hold me. Obviously. That’s what I need to try and avoid. Don’t let him grab me and just stick and move and try and damage him.

Sevan Matossian (13:47):

And um, you know, when Israel fights, I noticed the, it, it’s kind of, I know, I know your, um, styles. Aren’t the same, but, but bear with me here. I know you’re, you’re different fighters, but you move a lot and Israel moves a lot. You strike a lot. Israel strikes a lot. Someone, someone tries to take Israel down. He stands right up. Yeah. Is that the plan like this? Yeah, for sure. Second, they take you down. You just like, you don’t like assess the situation there. It’s just like, Hey, get the fuck up.

Jack Della Maddalena (14:16):

Yeah, basically I think just having to, if he does get me down, it’s not the end of the world. Just get up straight away and just get, if I can, it’s takes a lot of energy to grab someone, hold them down and then they get straight up, takes a more, a little bit more energy from the person that’s the offensive rest life. That makes sense. So he’ll shoot on me and hopefully I just get the idea is just get straight back up and continue to work. And that would’ve take drained him of some energy. I don’t wanna spend too much time on the ground. I just wanna be standing up smashing him.

Sevan Matossian (14:48):

Yeah. I like the way you say that people in your interviews, people are like, what’s your plan? You’re like, well, just, just do a lot of damage to ’em.

Jack Della Maddalena (14:55):

Yeah, just

Sevan Matossian (14:56):

Do a lot. <laugh>

Jack Della Maddalena (14:58):


Jack Della Maddalena (14:59):

That’s honestly, if during the fight I see his face damaged. I feel like I’m doing the right thing.

Sevan Matossian (15:06):

Uh, the plan is being executed. Um, uh, and you have this, um, and maybe all fighters have this, but you also have this, um, uh, uh, also from Nick Diaz, Colby, Covington, mighty mouse. Your game is the pressure game.

Jack Della Maddalena (15:22):

Yeah. I try and make my opponent uncomfortable and just trying and damage him a lot. So I’m just trying to hit him heaps

Sevan Matossian (15:30):


Jack Della Maddalena (15:30):

And as possible.

Sevan Matossian (15:31):

No, no resting time. No assessment, no dancing around. No, just like, Hey dude, like the Bell’s gonna ring. And my, and you’re and you’re I learned this actually from you, from our last conversation, part of your defense is your offense while you’re punching, like that’s part of your defense too, right? I think you were saying. Yeah, for sure.

Jack Della Maddalena (15:47):

Every time I hit, I’m trying to have my head off the center line and just, yeah. Basically is if I’m hitting them, they probably aren’t hitting me. So I may as well just keep trying to hit them.

Sevan Matossian (15:59):

Do, will you knock him out this guy out?

Jack Della Maddalena (16:02):

I’m gonna try, I’m gonna try my best stuff. I feel like I can, if I put the right, the right things together and I make the right decisions, I definitely feel like I can knock him out. So that’s what I’m trying to do. It’s just about, um, making the right decisions at the right time and I think I can get it done.

Sevan Matossian (16:22):

Yeah, we’ll do breakfast right after this. We’ll be done in 14 minutes, then we’ll be done in 14 minutes and then I’ll see you guys out front.

Jack Della Maddalena (16:28):

<laugh> your

Jack Della Maddalena (16:29):

Breakfast for? I’m

Sevan Matossian (16:31):

Good. Thanks. What are you gonna have for breakfast? Have you started your weight? Cut?

Jack Della Maddalena (16:35):

Um, I’m eating pretty good. No, I wouldn’t say I’ve started it. I’m eating pretty good. I’m just sort of not eating as much as I’d like to eat, but just eating enough that I’m just sort of constantly just getting a little bit lighter, better having enough food that I can still have a good push in training.

Sevan Matossian (16:53):

Last two interviews. I saw you had black eye and now I see it’s kind of healing up. What happened?

Jack Della Maddalena (16:57):

Oh yeah. I shouldn’t have it. Yeah. It’s still just trying to train hard. Just trying to keep the head moving. So we’re just still working. I’ve got a, probably one more hard session today. And then the, um, intensity session sort of drops after that little bit less impact stuff

Sevan Matossian (17:16):

That, uh, video that, um, they made on you. If you type in Jack, uh, D made contender series, they’ve put together a 20 minute video of you.

Jack Della Maddalena (17:25):

I, so, yeah,

Sevan Matossian (17:26):

It’s beautiful, right?

Jack Della Maddalena (17:27):

It’s a cool video. Yeah. It’s pretty cool how they did it. I liked it. I don’t really like watching myself on video too much unless I’m fighting. I don’t mind watching myself fight cause I can, but yeah, on watching myself talks a bit strange, but it was a very cool video the way they did it was awesome.

Sevan Matossian (17:46):

And, and, and they were there when your, um, Jim had its, uh, 10 year anniversary. What’s the name of your gym again?

Jack Della Maddalena (17:54):

Scrappy MMA. There is there. Yeah. We had our 10 year anniversary and they came along. It was a cool little, we never, ever do stuff. Like look cool. We were all in suits and stuff, but we’ve never done anything like that before. So it’s just a bit different to get out of the gym gear and see everyone dressed up nicely.

Sevan Matossian (18:16):

Yeah. The, the two things that, that I, that I was really impressed by is that your mom was there.

Jack Della Maddalena (18:21):


Sevan Matossian (18:23):

That’s cool. You brought your mom,

Jack Della Maddalena (18:26):

Bring mom along.

Sevan Matossian (18:27):

Would you have done that? Even if the contender series wasn’t filming

Jack Della Maddalena (18:30):

<laugh> uh, yeah, she was actually keen to go when I said we’re doing like a mom likes to get dressed up, you know, if there’s any opportunity to put on some nice, get, get some nice clothes, she would do it. So yeah, she was excited to come and she’s sort of been, yeah, she’s helped me out a lot. So she wanted to come and celebrate the gym and celebrate the fighters.

Sevan Matossian (18:54):

Yeah. She looked great. She looked happy. And then they had a montage of Dana white talking about you. Yeah. In front of all your colleagues, all your peers. How was that?

Jack Della Maddalena (19:08):

Yeah, it was cool. It was really cool. We had a couple of awards and I got, I can’t remember what the award was, but yeah, there was a little video of that, which was cool. Yeah. It was good. You know, everyone, it’s exciting for the gym, everyone. Yeah. Everyone in the gym works really hard. And just to on the first one to get over to the UFC, I think there’ll be a few more after me, but yeah, it’s cool. Just to, it gives everyone else the, the reasoning that they can also get there. If they yeah. Put the work in and work hard and

Sevan Matossian (19:40):

Jack you’re that dude. You’re that dude that the other people at the gym are saying, I work out. Yeah. Yeah. Your mom looks great. Your wife looks great. Look at you. You even look handsome. What a fucking cool thing that warms my heart. See you with your mom and your wife like that.

Jack Della Maddalena (19:57):

Yeah, it was cool. It was a cool, a cool day

Sevan Matossian (20:02):

And uh, good job, Caleb. Just getting a screenshot so we don’t get it caught. I was smooth, dude. Um,

Jack Della Maddalena (20:09):


Sevan Matossian (20:10):

You’re the guy now that people are like what? Jimmy worked out, you know, the one where Jack works out <laugh> it’s cool. You know what I mean?

Jack Della Maddalena (20:18):

It is cool. Yeah, it is cool. It’s cool. You the gym’s good. There’s a lot of good fighters in the gym and everyone at the gym is cool. There’s no big egos there. Everyone just wants to get better and perfect gym for it’s a perfect gym that I would wanna be associated with.

Sevan Matossian (20:38):

Uh, when, when, when I met you, um, and it’s a story that never gets old, you had lost your two and then you won 10 in a row and I’m, I’m rushing through a really great story, but you know, you lost your first two and you and your coach said, Hey, let’s win the next 10. And you did it, which is just nuts. And if you go ahead, sorry.

Jack Della Maddalena (21:02):

No, no. I was just gonna say we made, yeah, it was a, it was a goal that we set. It was a pretty big goal, I guess, 10 wins in a row.

Sevan Matossian (21:10):

Ridiculous, ridiculous goal. We made it. Matter of fact, you know, most people never thought you would even do it. It’s ridiculous. Yes,

Jack Della Maddalena (21:18):

Definitely. Definitely. I think when I was, oh, and two, and I said, I’d get to 10 to two people would probably find that ridiculous.

Sevan Matossian (21:26):

And now you’re

Jack Della Maddalena (21:27):

To something you make it happen.

Sevan Matossian (21:29):

Yeah. And, and now you’re 11 and two you’ve won 11 fights in a row. Yeah. And you’re fighting this Russian dude. I, it it’s, um, I mean he knows, he knows your story, you know,

Jack Della Maddalena (21:49):

For sure. Yeah. It’ll be a good fire. He’s a tough Russian.

Sevan Matossian (21:53):


Jack Della Maddalena (21:54):

He’s a tough Russian man, but a person’s a person and yeah. It all comes down to that 15 minutes,

Sevan Matossian (22:01):

Dude. I haven’t seen too many. I haven’t seen too many people in my life tougher than you, dude. You are a tough fucking man. Uh he’s. He’s, he’s 35. He’s 35. When’s his last. And he lost his last fight. I think, I think I looked,

Jack Della Maddalena (22:16):

Yeah, I think he lost it, Danny. Yeah, that’s right. Split this fusion to Danny Roberts loss.

Sevan Matossian (22:23):

Um, so I keep hearing a lot of the guys who are, who are like the, the real interview guys, they’re always saying to you stuff like, Hey, he hasn’t, he hasn’t put someone away in seven fights. When you hear that, what, what is your, what is your reaction?

Jack Della Maddalena (22:38):

I don’t know. I just, from my perspective, I think, um, Ramadan’s pretty well rounded. He’s pretty well rounded. He’s not extremely dangerous anywhere, but he’s well rounded enough that he can win the fight just mainly by, I think he’s good at winning the fight, grabbing a hold of someone and just sort of winning on the judges’ scorecards. And I think, yeah, that’s, he’s not extremely, he’s not, I don’t think he’s at the elite level. I don’t think he’s going to finish many people in my opinion, but yeah. I’m just gonna try to do what I always do. Stick and move and bust him up.

Sevan Matossian (23:17):

Yeah. Bust him up. How, how is, um, what is, what is the word confidence mean? And is it still growing? Does confidence grow?

Jack Della Maddalena (23:28):

Yeah. I think confidence does grow. You get confidence from wins and you sort of get into the, I think like winning is sort of a habit and you just get in the zone. And if you believe that you are gonna win, I think a lot of fighting does come down to confidence on the day. If whoever’s more confident that will win, probably has a better ability to execute their, their style of fire. So confidence does grow from each fight. And I think it’s very important when it comes to fight, fight day, feel confident you, you can win, then nothing can really stop you.

Sevan Matossian (24:03):

That feeling when you walk in there, is there something you’re looking for? Like some super on switch, like I’m here? Is, is there, is there something you tell yourself, is there, is there a suit of armor you put on? Is there something you throw away? Is there, you know what I mean? Is, is there, or is it just, just the same Jack? You just cruise.

Jack Della Maddalena (24:23):

Yeah. I guess you sort of do when you walk out, not so much the walk out, but when you enter the cage, it’s sort of, when you get your, you get your face Vaseline up and then you sort of say, you, you just give your coaches a high five and you send in. And at that point it’s sort of,

Sevan Matossian (24:39):

No, no, if you’re Brazilian, you give ’em a French kiss.

Jack Della Maddalena (24:41):

Yeah. Okay. You do that in Brazil. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, we in Australia just slap it up and you get in there and then when you enter the cage, it’s sort of game time you go, you know that it’s ready to go. You see your opponent and then yeah. I guess all well, you sort of, at that point in the zone, nothing else really matters except what it, yeah. Getting the win and fighting.

Sevan Matossian (25:04):

What if you don’t go in the zone? Like, could you be in there? And like, it’s like 3, 2, 1 go. And you’re like, fuck, did I turn the oven off? Can that happen? Or, or, or man, my gloves don’t feel,

Jack Della Maddalena (25:15):

I reckon if you, if you were in there and you were thinking about whether you turn on the oven or not, I think you’ve gotta check your priorities because it’s the least of your worries if the Oven’s on. But yeah. I, I see what you mean. Like if you get caught up in something else, then you’re not fully in the zone and you probably won’t make the right decisions at the time.

Sevan Matossian (25:37):

So what do you do?

Jack Della Maddalena (25:39):

You just, I think it’s more

Sevan Matossian (25:41):

Just has that happened to you. Have you got in there and been like, oh shit, I’m not ready when when’s Jack gonna show up.

Jack Della Maddalena (25:47):

I, yeah, I have, before I have one of my fights, I got, I was just sort of just all over the place. And then I got ki, I got kicked in the face early and it sort of sat me down. And then that was sort of the wake up call what I needed so I could,

Sevan Matossian (26:02):

Oh yeah.

Jack Della Maddalena (26:03):

Kick across the face. And I thought, oh shit. Yeah. Now I’ve gotta fight. So sometimes it does take a little bit of a kick in the face to get you going. But most of the times I’ve when saying to the cage, I feel like I’m ready to go. And I’m fully in the zone and nothing else to me really matters.

Sevan Matossian (26:23):

Do you like it?

Jack Della Maddalena (26:25):

It’s a good, yeah. That feeling of when I like that feeling when I’m in the case,

Sevan Matossian (26:29):

<laugh> he put up a pole. Did you turn your oven off?

Jack Della Maddalena (26:33):


Sevan Matossian (26:35):

Um, yeah. Uh, look it a hundred percent people say you’re gonna win a hundred percent.

Jack Della Maddalena (26:41):

Yeah. Yeah. How good that,

Sevan Matossian (26:44):

Uh, do, do you like it?

Jack Della Maddalena (26:47):


Sevan Matossian (26:50):

Like I go to like, like you go to amusement park as a kid and you’re excited and you get on the ride and you’re like, yeah. Like when they say go, is there kind of almost like, even though you’re it’s tense of shit and you gotta kill a dude and dude’s trying to kill you, is it like, okay, finally let’s do

Jack Della Maddalena (27:03):

This shit. It is. I think it’s one of, I think the reason I really like it is one of the few sort of moments you really are like present fully present. You’re not actually thinking about the oven or what else? Like what you’re gonna have for dinner tonight. You’re pretty much just fully in the zone. And I think any, anything that you do where you’re fully present, it’s gonna be something that you enjoy doing. You’re gonna, I don’t know why, but yeah, I do like it, it’s, uh, one, a few times in my life where you’re fully present and you’re not thinking about anything else, except task at hand,

Sevan Matossian (27:40):

I had this dude on here, Alexis land lot or something. He’s, he’s an urban climber. There’s only like five in the world. Basically. He climbs skyscrapers.

Jack Della Maddalena (27:52):

Yeah. Jesus

Sevan Matossian (27:53):

Just like barefoot and shit. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful young man. You know what I mean? Just a verbal fucking 20 year old Savage. Beautiful French man. And, but what the fuck man? That’s and that’s what he said. He said, it’s the only place like I, there he is. He’s like, yeah, this is the only place I feel like, oh yeah, Alexis Lando. He’s like, it’s the only place I feel like I’m in total control and present. <laugh> I’m like, dude.

Jack Della Maddalena (28:19):


Sevan Matossian (28:21):


Jack Della Maddalena (28:22):

It makes sense to me. I feel like I would never do that at all, but yeah. I don’t think you’d be thinking about the oven when you’re scaling a building like that when you’ve been Spiderman

Sevan Matossian (28:34):

It’s so it’s the, it’s the same thing, um, though. Yeah. In a way, right. He’s in a very dangerous position and you’re in a very dangerous position.

Jack Della Maddalena (28:43):

Yeah. And I think you realize that your next move could be obviously in his, in his endeavors it’s if he slips up, he’s dead.

Sevan Matossian (28:53):


Jack Della Maddalena (28:54):

For me, it’s more, if I slip up, I could be knocked out or put on my back or that sort of thing, but yeah. It’s so it’s different in that regard, but yeah, same thing. You just have to be extremely present and you can’t be thinking about much else. Sort of like quite meditative in a way.

Sevan Matossian (29:13):

And no one’s trying to stop him, but someone is, but someone is trying to stop you from do what you wanna do.

Jack Della Maddalena (29:20):

Yeah. I guess he’s, he’s probably focused a lot more on himself where I’m probably just focused entirely on what my opponent’s doing, what the other person in the cage is doing.

Sevan Matossian (29:32):

You see the punches coming Jack.

Jack Della Maddalena (29:35):

Yeah, definitely. You do see him. The ones that you don’t see coming are the ones who are gonna, are gonna be the damaging shot. So you’ve just gotta, yeah. The eyes are very important in the fire game. Keep the eyes open and you just gotta trust that you don’t wanna flinch too much. You wanna keep the eyes open and you want to be able to witness everything coming. So then you have the time to react necessarily.

Sevan Matossian (29:57):

Do, do you remember the first time you started seeing punches.

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