#423 – CrossFit Semifinals | MACC Event 3

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam we’re live. Uh, Andrew Hiller, uh, put out a video the other day that, um, sh showing my interview with Stacy Tova and I, and I actually hadn’t seen that. I, I never went back and saw it after the New York times wrote that article, uh, mashing me and then, uh, David Katherine’s daughter, uh, reposted with the New York times, said about me in regards to that video I made. And when Andrew reposted it, I’m like, holy shit, I’m a fucking hero. In that video state, I asked Stacy Tova about her period and thanking Andrew for pointing that out to me. Uh, he asked he Andrew Hiller posted it. And the section he post I’m asking Stacy about the, um, pill that she’s on. And she says that she thinks she would’ve performed better if she wouldn’t have been on that pill based on what the other athletes told her that they got significantly stronger.

Sevan Matossian (00:43):

When she got off that pill, it’s a fucking gem. Not only should every female athlete should see it. Every male athlete should see it. Every man should see it. Every woman should see it. Anyone who’s in the world of fucking procreating, anyone who has genitalia should see that video yet I lost my job because of it. I dunno cause of it. But the CEO that used to be here, Eric Rose said that when he saw the New York times article, which was based off of that video, he said Seon should resign. Yep. He said that, but I wanna show you what I saw yesterday from the L G P someone sent me this. And it’s interesting. This is once again, because Andrew, uh, dug this up, uh, I think that’s the golf, the women golf thing.

Andrew Hiller (01:21):

PGA, you said GPA or no, maybe, maybe you said it right. And I heard it

Sevan Matossian (01:26):

Wrong. It’s the one with the stick and the little ball. Uh <laugh> can we, can we play this video? Uh, the reporter’s asking, I think one of the, um, one of the top ladies in the field, Hey, what’s up? Why are you playing like shit? And this is a response

Speaker 3 (01:39):

I come out and give you a little physical therapy as well. Is that a concern moving forward?

Speaker 4 (01:44):

Um, I hope not. Um, it’s that time of the months. I know the ladies watching <laugh> or probably like, yeah, I got you. <laugh>. So, um, when that happens, uh, I, my back gets really tight and I’m all twisted and it’s not the first time that Chris has, uh, seen me twisted. Um, but it felt a lot better after he came. So yeah, there you go. <laugh>

Speaker 3 (02:08):

Uh, thanks.

Speaker 4 (02:10):

I know you’re less reward. I know you’re less rewards Jerry,

Sevan Matossian (02:13):

Come out. Ironically. That was the same reason why Jason Hopper did so poorly at the games last year. He was also, um, uh, having his period, but, but that’s not my point. My point is, is, uh, I did an interview with Stacy Tova New York times painted it. Like I was doing something bad catching David’s daughter reposted it because she didn’t fucking fact check or she hates women in their menstrual cycles being talked about who the fuck knows. Um, or, but I just thought it was great that it was like, kind of like dug up and brought up to the, uh, to the front again by Andrew Hiller. And thank you. It’s get, got me all riled up. It makes me realize why this podcast is me bigger than all of CrossFit, Inc. And less,

Andrew Hiller (02:51):

All we try to do is get you riled up. That’s all we want.

Sevan Matossian (02:54):

Thank you.

Andrew Hiller (02:54):

Brings out the

Sevan Matossian (02:55):

Best. I love being riled up, you know,

Andrew Hiller (02:57):

Get all pissed off.

Sevan Matossian (02:58):

I absolutely loved getting up this morning at six o’clock and watching the teams. I loved watching, um, Angelo, uh, uh, de Chico and uh, oh, could we send Angelo a link, Matt? Yep. I love watching Angelo and Luke Parker. Uh, Angelo de Chico, Luke Parker, Sasha Nevis and Alexis Johnson.

Sevan Matossian (03:16):


Sevan Matossian (03:17):

Thank you. Uh, Jr. I loved watching them know that we got up early to watch them and therefore they put on a show for us winning in the final seconds, which we also got that same show just now in the, um, men’s rope climb event. Uh, we also saw that, um, Seon is even amongst all these brainiacs in the sport. Um, he, he, he couldn’t be more correct with Sydney, uh, tion. She is, uh, uh, yeah, I’m pumped. Did you guys, have you guys had a chance to watch everything that happened today that transpired today?

Andrew Hiller (03:58):

Of course,

Sevan Matossian (04:00):

Let’s start with, uh, the teams then, uh, mayhem went into Mayhan independence, went into this morning’s event event. Number three in, sorry, Susan. I know you’re juggling stuff. Could we see the leaderboard for teams? Uh, they went in second place and now they’re tied for first. Is that what happened?

Andrew Hiller (04:20):

The mayhem team. They, they were tied for first. They’ve been in first the whole time, I believe.

Sevan Matossian (04:25):

Oh, okay. I, I, I didn’t check the board. I thought, I thought I heard them say that they were five points behind, uh, the, um, CrossFit squadron.

Andrew Hiller (04:35):

No, I know yesterday when you were getting all crazy at your party, we were trying to tell you that they finished second on that one workout due to those chest of our pullups from the other team likely. Okay. Is that what you’re talking about? You heard that they finished second on that?

Sevan Matossian (04:50):

No, I thought I, I thought I heard, uh, either Sean or Tanya say that today on the feed, but I, but I, but I probably was wrong.

Andrew Hiller (04:56):

No, it’s okay. You can be wrong sometimes. You’re right about Sydney.

Sevan Matossian (05:00):

So, so these guys, these guys are in these guys are they’re going a bar, some sort of crazy accident? Uh, no, no one can knock these guys out of the top five. Is that correct?

Andrew Hiller (05:11):

It would appear. So

Sevan Matossian (05:13):

Are you

Andrew Hiller (05:14):

Impressed? They’re on fire.

Sevan Matossian (05:15):

Are you impressed Jr. With these guys? Or are you like yeah, of course it’s mayhem.

JR Howell (05:19):

Yeah. I mean, it’s definitely the performance I expected from them.

Sevan Matossian (05:23):

Um, any signs of Angelo not being the athlete used to be, he was injured, uh, sort of, this is, this is his first kind of foray back into the game. Right?

Andrew Hiller (05:33):

I think he was individual at the Mac last year. If I’m not mistaken. I think he finished seven individual at the Mac last year.

JR Howell (05:41):

Yeah. Wanna say

Andrew Hiller (05:42):

At the top of my head, I’ll check it real quick.

JR Howell (05:44):

Was he in the last chance or maybe one spot out of the last chance

Andrew Hiller (05:48):

Atlantic? He finished seventh. Yeah, that was good. Nice job, man. Rep pat in the back and then yeah. What do you do with the last chance? Do you know?

JR Howell (05:57):

Uh, I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (05:59):

So, so in my head I was thinking that this is him just kind of dabbling again, feeling it out, but that’s not the truth. We have a guy who is a world class kids, CrossFit games, athlete came back last year. Uh, did extremely well. And now, and now 19, he’s gotten on a team. Okay. Uh, who, uh, what, tell me, I don’t know anything about Alexis Johnson. Has she ever gone individual? Is she a good athlete?

JR Howell (06:20):

Yeah, she’s been at the games before she was with misfit for a long time. Um, but she’s, she’s a veteran.

Sevan Matossian (06:28):

Okay. So it, that this is a legitimate team. This isn’t like just something, oh, look at these guys. They just kind of fell together and, um, and, and, and are getting lucky. The, this is, this is a world class team, but they just don’t get the recognition they deserve because they’re next to, uh, that the rich guy,

Andrew Hiller (06:44):

I would’ve to say, yeah, they’re probably looked down just a Ted because they’re next to the mayhem freedom team, but they’re, they’re a world killer.

Sevan Matossian (06:53):

Uh, and they said in the show that that time in workout, three of 11 55, 21 was, uh, the second fastest time. So far that any team had put up, uh, in that event, I guess that was one of the, um, events that was required by CrossFit this year of one of two events. And the only team that’s beat them so far was, uh, daddy’s team. Rich’s team, man, freedom,

Andrew Hiller (07:13):

Daddy. <laugh> by 35 seconds.

Sevan Matossian (07:20):

Oh, 35 seconds.

Andrew Hiller (07:22):

I guess that that’s the difference between the two times.

Sevan Matossian (07:25):

Wow. Wow. Okay. I thought I heard five seconds. Um, Angela and Luke, they, they passed the guy in the final rope climbs, um, is, is that, and we saw that play out, uh, in the, um, in the men’s event too. The men’s individual event is that a strategy that every, every athlete should pay attention to that right around. Like, if, if you know, you’re gonna make all the rope climbs to kind of just stay right behind the guy to pay, have set a pacer. And if you know, you’re strong on the rope climbs, you stay behind him because on the ninth and 10th, they’re gonna start to hurt and you can pass them.

Andrew Hiller (08:02):

I think we were talking about, did Chico coming down the rope, right?

Sevan Matossian (08:06):

Was that where he did it? Is that, is that, do you think that’s where he got his speed?

Andrew Hiller (08:10):

It’s totally a factor. The people who know how to come down the rope definitely had the upper hand. And I remember listening, I keep on referencing to Ben Smith podcast, cuz his podcast are so good. But in the Ben Smith, he was talking about the fact that it became, how risky are you going to be jumping down off the top of the rope? More so than it was either a running or a rope climb event. How much of a risk are yourself quick to get down the finish the event in this case, or to round up round increase your likelihood of winning.

Sevan Matossian (08:48):

Let me ask this. Do, does the dissent also affect the fatigue?

JR Howell (08:53):

Yes. If you know how to, yeah. If you know how to just barely squeeze with your thighs and slide and then maybe make one contact with your hands on the way down, it makes a huge difference

Sevan Matossian (09:05):


Andrew Hiller (09:05):

You actually have seen it, right. They have like that one grip at the bottom after they tap, they have like one grip and then their legs kind of pop out and then they’re off to the races.

Sevan Matossian (09:13):

Um, Danielle was already struggling on the seventh rope climb and she, you know, that, that 10th, that 10th rope climb, that was a nail biter. She didn’t go up any faster than we saw. Um, Brooke Wells go up when Brooke Wells failed. Yep. I mean, that was some that it’s cool. That that’s like one of the best parts of the sports it’s, isn’t it so uncomfortable watching a superstar like Brooke, just have to sit there and wait, like as a fan you’re as a fan, you just want, you start wiggling around in your seat and shit.

Andrew Hiller (09:44):

I think this is part of what we were talking about. It was a good event for the females. Not so much for the males. Go ahead, jar.

JR Howell (09:52):

I was gonna say, I think it’s really cool too, to watch the different styles and the way people attack workouts. And when you think of Danielle, you think of like a killer, someone that attacks. And she went out on her first few road climbs, like she was going for a world record and she just said, you know what? The fatigue’s gonna come. I’m just gonna let it come as it’s going to. And when I have to slow down, I’m gonna slow down. But then if you watch Sydney and you watch down, especially the pace just was clear from the beginning. This is my pace. I’m gonna do the first shuttle run and the first leg list, like I hope to do the 10th.

Sevan Matossian (10:22):

Yeah. Uh, good, good point. We’ll we’ll come back to down. That’s a very good point about how Doon ran that and, and, and ended up doing fantastic. Right. In, in the last five seconds, the whole story changed in the men’s heat. Uh, Shelby, Neil devastating, uh, a, a character out there that I I’m sure everyone was slowly starting to fall in love with easy to just love. So cool. She got that red hair. It’s all tied up tight. Uh, she looks so young out there. Uh, and then, and then basically on her knees at the end when capped and chest heaving, right? Like you could see like crying like a, a, a, a baby. Uh, that’s hard.

Andrew Hiller (11:00):

It’s very interesting to me. It’s, it’s interesting because, and very much like, I, you talk, you call it the circle of death. Like, like the sharks are now swarming around and they’re cheering through the athlete at the end. And I mean, I, I, if I were in that situation, this event in particular, you kind of know how it’s gonna play out. Right. So she finished fifth, she finished third and then she finished 30th and it would be very hard for me to believe that she had anything outside of that being an expectation. And sure. I’m sure it’s still hard in the moment to deal with, but you said she’s heaving, she’s all upset. It’s like, I don’t really understand the upset because you could do this event. Every athlete has probably done it once or twice to know what it’s like, get the transitions under control. And she probably should have known that it’s likely she wasn’t gonna finish. And at which rate, I, I would be super pissed off, like, get the fuck away from me. I know that I wasn’t gonna do too hot, like cheering me. On’s not gonna get me up this fucking rope.

Sevan Matossian (11:54):

Uh, Jay, are you think she knew ahead of time that this was gonna be a bad one for her?

JR Howell (11:58):

I do. Um, I actually talked to her just for a second briefly in the warmup area right before she went out and just gave her a hug congratulate on a awesome first day. And I said, you’re killing it. And she looked at me and she said, yeah, so far. And when she said that, they kind of gave me that look. I was like, okay. Like I know now that something coming is not something that she’s super excited about, whether it’s this workout or the next workout or the last workout, but you know, athletes know and athletes, most of them are pretty self-aware as far as how they are stacked up to a field. But I will say when you have everyone down there holding, you know, cheering you on, if they’re doing anything but telling you to rest more, they’re not helping you

Andrew Hiller (12:42):

Hundred percent

JR Howell (12:43):

Because I saw, I saw so many athletes in all the heats go way too early, you know? And then I would see an athlete in round nine that would rest a little bit, get up the rope, go do their shuttle run and come back and get ready to go up again. And I’m saying to myself, wait, wait, wait. It’s been 15 seconds since the last one. It, you just took a minute to get the ninth one. So you need to be resting almost two minutes to get this one. But it’s so tough. I mean, I know 10 seconds feels like 30 seconds

Andrew Hiller (13:11):

And then you, and then again, you see Tia, Tomi in the crowd where they’re wasting one of the camera angles on Tia, Tomi, sitting there yelling at broke Wells to go, or like, come on bro, come on, Brooke just drives me nuts up what you’re saying? Like, don’t tell I piggyback a couple. What you’re saying? Like don’t tell them to go. Yeah. Tell ’em to slow down, like make sure that the climb that they take is worth the climb they’re gonna take.

Sevan Matossian (13:33):

Do you look more stressed than Brooke?

Mattew Ouza (13:35):

Mm-hmm <affirmative>

Andrew Hiller (13:37):

She’s like, let me do it for you. <laugh> put you on my back. I’ll climb you up the rope for you.

Sevan Matossian (13:43):

What, what place is Kelly Clark in? Uh, current currently in, in the women’s division here. I don’t even see her in the top 11. Where is she? Oh, great. Okay. Is she, so is she gonna be fighting at that bubble all week?

Mattew Ouza (13:56):


Sevan Matossian (13:59):

You guys have any thoughts? I think Brian had her in this top five that she’s going,

Andrew Hiller (14:04):

I don’t know very much about Kelly Clark, 35.

Sevan Matossian (14:08):

I ask about her. She’s a local girl to me. I went to her fundraiser for the semi-final. I bought the raffle tickets. My kids won the backpack. Uh, she’s a, she’s a, a phenomenal specimen as a, uh, human being. She’s got great support staff around her. Oh, she’s 35 too. Is she the, is she the oldest in the top five?

JR Howell (14:26):


Andrew Hiller (14:27):

Uh, yes. I would have to say so of, yeah. Oh yeah. By

Mattew Ouza (14:30):

Like, by like 10 years <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (14:33):

Yeah, yeah. Even more, right? Yeah.

Mattew Ouza (14:35):


Sevan Matossian (14:36):

13 years.

Mattew Ouza (14:37):

Yeah. 26, 22 and then 35.

Sevan Matossian (14:41):

Well, she’s got good finishes. Seven 11 and eighth. And, and, and how about this, this lady? Uh, Rebecca fuser. Fuer. Uh, do, did any of you guys have her in your top five?

Andrew Hiller (14:55):

No. No, but that might change quick. <laugh> we? We did, we did that top three to start off the weekend and no, I don’t believe any of us had her in the top three little on the top five.

Sevan Matossian (15:08):

Uh, and, and, and Brooke Wells didn’t fall that far down the standings. Uh, she is still only 10 points out of, uh, qualifying for the games. Is that, are you guys surprised that a 23rd place finish? Uh, it would only put you in six place after three events?

Andrew Hiller (15:25):

No, I’m not surprised because the top she has her first place finish. It’s either her a hundred and it’s one of those where the top, but having a first really kind of counteract having one of those that low as well.

Sevan Matossian (15:38):

What were you gonna say, Taylor?

Taylor Self (15:39):

Yeah, I was gonna say it doesn’t surprise me at all because she was sitting in first, the first two events.

Sevan Matossian (15:46):

Uh, there was some nice camera angles in the beginning there where you could see Danielle and Cindy, uh, Han running side by side. They don’t even, they don’t, it doesn’t even look like the same creature. Mm Danielle’s. So, so light on her feet. So light on her feet, like almost effortless on her toes. And, uh, Cindy Chen Moore has like that Annie Thor’s daughter kind of like lumbering, uh, run. Did you guys notice that?

JR Howell (16:10):

Yeah. Yeah, but Sidney’s rope climb technique was awesome.

Sevan Matossian (16:14):

Her declines were nuts, right. He

JR Howell (16:16):

Was a few females that actually, you know, reach with your right knee, pull with your right arm, reach with your left, pull with your left. And it was really in sync. Like she was walking up the rope and you spoke about Danielle almost struggling on rep seven, but her technique with using her hips, wasn’t nearly as fluid.

Sevan Matossian (16:36):

I feel like, uh, Danielle had more like a side to side, uh, Kip, whereas, uh, Michelins was driving straight up and her, her DEC, her dissent was nuts. Did

Andrew Hiller (16:47):

I would’ve to say, to say that piggybacking off of your, she runs lumber and Danielle runs like she’s light on her feet. It’s almost the, the side to side sway movement is a more athletic indicator. So Danielle appears to be more of an athletic type person in <inaudible> appears to be a brick shit house who can just like haul her ass up the rope. And you’ll, you’ll see it kind of all the way across the board with anybody where they go hand in hand, just like athleticism is something that’s born in you. And maybe Danielle has that. And ion is just more of a brute, which is okay. Works for both of ’em.

Sevan Matossian (17:21):

Um, Sidney seemed to win, uh, easy, uh, using that pacing that, uh, Jr talked about in the beginning. She stayed in her game. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, that’s what she did. She didn’t deviate, but she, it, it actually, you know, Noah finished across the finish line and he looked like he had just done Fran. He was exhausted. Sidney didn’t even see that. It was just like, like maybe even she had, she left some in the tank, like she didn’t even leave it all on the floor. I never saw

Andrew Hiller (17:48):

About the end of workout. Noon seemed gas. Yeah. It’s very interesting. Cause I, I don’t, I don’t understand that at all. Do you guys, Taylor, do you understand? I mean, you’re, you’re like peak shape right now for the most part. Right? Could we, did the workout even get you anywhere near gas?

Taylor Self (18:05):

I did it a few times and every time I did it at the end, like in round nine, I felt, um, I felt gas maybe, maybe less windy. Uh, it was more of like alactic threshold workout where like, I just felt like I was pretty full of lactic acid, but also definitely breathing hard. It’s not like you’re not breathing hard. You’re doing, if you think of doing two minutes straight of shuttle runs and you’re running as hard as you can in terms of getting back to the rope, obviously without, without having run so hard that you can’t make a rope climb, but you’re running as fast as you can at that capacity for two and a half, three minutes. Yeah, for sure. I doesn’t surprise me that a lot of them are. Gased. Um,

Andrew Hiller (18:44):

I’ve got a, I got a little insight into that, which is, did you do the waap za qualifiers tailored the, I think the team ones are different than the individual

Taylor Self (18:53):

I did

Andrew Hiller (18:53):

Not do. And did you, so the qualifier had an event where it was a max at a to bar into a two K row into a max. And when I first did it, I had done something like a month where I was trying to really keep my carbs low. I was just trying to play with the diet a little bit. And when I did that two K row, it was like a 6 49. And I felt like no, the first one was a seven minute, two K row and I felt completely smashed. And that was like a very bad two K row for me, I’ve done a two K as quick as like 6 34. And I was like, what’s going on? And I realized it had to have been the carb. So I redid the workout a couple days later after in taking a bunch of the sugar that Sivan hates so much and the difference was 10 seconds or so.

Andrew Hiller (19:33):

So I took a bunch of time up. It felt way better about it. And the entire time I was going about it, I was waiting for that terrible feeling of just death that looked like Noah Olson at the end of that finish right there. And the entire off season, all Noah’s been talking about was his like trying to drop the body weight, tinkering with his diet. So what I’m getting at with all of this is I think that it’s very possible that the tinkering of the diet might very well be playing into his performance this weekend. So he’s trying to get his body weight down. Maybe he’s not taking carbohydrate. Does that make sense to you guys? A

Taylor Self (20:03):

Hundred percent? I’ve never had that issue. I think a lot of athletes you’ve heard math talk about it, but he talks about trying to gain weight over the course of a competition. Correct?

Andrew Hiller (20:12):


Taylor Self (20:12):

And, and I’ve always tried to be that way. I’ve always in sport. I’ve always tried to eat a lot, um, around my practice. I don’t really have issues with like competing or training with not ne not like I’m, you know, bursting, but on a full stomach I’m okay. And so I always try to have a lot of carbs and I think that’s exactly what I’ve always thought about Noah is it seems like he’s too lean for his own good. And he’s maybe not fueling as well for performance as he could.

Andrew Hiller (20:39):

I’ll tell you. It was just unbelievable. The difference between like two days and like, I have a carload, if you will. And it was basically just a bunch of Gatorade <laugh> and it made everything feel way better, finished way quicker. Didn’t I mean, snatched better. And Noah just looks like he’s probably depleted.

Taylor Self (20:54):

Yeah. And then imagine training on that car intake for a month leading into competition, as opposed to, like you said, being tinkering with his diet and probably not helping.

Andrew Hiller (21:04):

Yeah. Look at his fucking guy. You could see a separation in his Peck minor major, right there. It’s incredible. Yep. The vascularity in his fucking arms.

Mattew Ouza (21:12):

Yeah. And his tried,

Sevan Matossian (21:13):

He needs to drink a glass of water.

Andrew Hiller (21:16):


Taylor Self (21:17):

Needs to drink a glass

Andrew Hiller (21:18):

Of water. So you think’s dehydrated. Yeah. He looks like one of those guys who went through a movie. Dehydration cut.

Taylor Self (21:25):

Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Gosh, it’s good for the it’s good for the clout though. He’s fucking ripped.

Andrew Hiller (21:29):

Yeah. He’s a gym shark athlete. He’s had to keep up the appearance. It doesn’t matter how he, how he performs. He’s gotta look part. So for the picture, somebody put

Mattew Ouza (21:37):

A, somebody put a comment in here and just said, he’s just going after all that camera time for his gym shark sponsorship. So maybe that’s just look, look, good ass shit. Get out in front. Get that camera time and get paid, baby.

Sevan Matossian (21:47):

He could just be getting old too, man. What about just getting old?

Taylor Self (21:50):

No way.

Andrew Hiller (21:51):

No, no way. He

Taylor Self (21:53):

Must almost as lean as Jr.

Sevan Matossian (21:54):

Yeah. Well, that’s coming from the guy who missed the games this year. So he is gotta hope that um, you can keep going when you’re old.

Taylor Self (22:01):

<laugh> yeah, well, I wouldn’t have missed it, but okay.

Sevan Matossian (22:06):

Uh, yeah. And, and what about what John George says? Uh, he always looks ripped. Oh shit. Maybe it’s his, all that monster. He’s been drinking.

Andrew Hiller (22:15):

Mm he’s been drinking the sugar free monsters. He needs to drink the sugar monsters.

Sevan Matossian (22:20):

Yes. Yes. Listen, you fucking knuckle heads. I was at a party last night.

Mattew Ouza (22:26):

Here we go.

Andrew Hiller (22:27):


Sevan Matossian (22:28):

I was at, I was at a party last night after doing, staying up. I, I, I hardly sleep at all. I went to a party last night at whatever did interrupted. My party started doing the podcast. I was exhausted and I, and I poured my, I filled up a glass with ice, fancy ice made from this expensive, fancy freezer. I put a, there was a monster energy drink in the, in the fridge. I poured a little in there cause I wanted the caffeine. I put a little Titos and sodas in there. I put sparkling water in there. And then one of my jackass friends who’s at the party goes, oh, let me see that PORs I’m in there. Let’s do a little stunt and freak people out.

Andrew Hiller (22:58):

<laugh> you friends? Yeah. I thought, I thought we were your only friends.

Taylor Self (23:03):

I think it was more than a little Titos the way you were acting last night on that podcast.

Sevan Matossian (23:06):

Well, it was maybe more than little Titos, but it’s just a little bit of monster and I would drank it for the caffeine. Yes. Guilty. Fuck. And I’ve never, and I’ve never talked shit about the sponsorship. I’ve always said everyone should get all the money they can, but you should not let them make you lie about the drink. You should still be able to say yes, I’m sponsored by, um, monster. But I would never drink that shit. But, but, but, but lay off, I needed some caffeine crying out loud do, as I say, not as I do

Andrew Hiller (23:35):

<laugh> yeah. You did four podcasting

Sevan Matossian (23:36):

And it was a joke. You think that that was it’s like someone caught me. That was a joke son’s of bitches. Uh, can we see the guy? What? Uh, Jr. I would like you to study this footage very closely. We can play as many times as you want. And give me your best thoughts on what the fuck happened here. This is like something like you see deer do like on Instagram, like trying to jump over a highway or something.

Taylor Self (23:58):

Oh, I saw this kid

Speaker 8 (24:03):

To deliver Stevenson. Sharon is gonna hold him off. He gets in Stevenson finishes in second and then,

Sevan Matossian (24:10):

Oh, oh my goodness. It

Mattew Ouza (24:13):

Time to that one. I would, I would just say debt perception is way off. <laugh> little short.

Sevan Matossian (24:19):

Hey, so, well you bring up a good point. Colton. That’s not funny. <laugh> uh, so I wanna play it one more time, but do you think, you know how they say you’re not supposed to wear black, uh, when you’re competing, because then it’s hard for the judges to see whether you’re. So do you think that those curtains is that another safety issue? We’ve just, we’ve just discovered those curtains are black. Do you think that’s what happens?

Mattew Ouza (24:40):

That was thought it was thought it was there’s totally no idea where the

Sevan Matossian (24:42):

Corner of the stadium. Yeah. Yeah. It is all. Yes. Yes. It’s because it’s all black. There’s something in photography called, um,

Sevan Matossian (24:52):

Shit. What’s the word I wish Heber was here so I could ask him. He would know, or J Vera, fuck. What is that word? But it’s basically how, how much you can see into the shadows of a picture. So, you know, like when you’re, when you’re, when you, uh, when my kids pee in the car and the little toilet in there, they, they, they don’t understand that people outside can’t see in cuz it’s sunny outside. Right. You only have such a range, uh, to see between brightness and darkness. And that’s what happened there. That black, he couldn’t see where the corner is. Can we play that again? Susa

Mattew Ouza (25:18):

You compared the stage to your child, peeing in the car.

Sevan Matossian (25:22):

I tried. It was a fail. I know

Speaker 8 (25:29):

Is holds in Stevenson and

Sevan Matossian (25:35):

He’s lucky he’s not hurt.

Mattew Ouza (25:37):

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Took a shitter.

Taylor Self (25:41):

So I was trying to connect to wifi in the venue and I’m walking backstage and Jason and O Keith are sitting there talking to each other. So I walk up, I’m like, Hey guys, what’s up? Hey, O Keith, do you have the wifi? And he looks at me and he says, who the fuck do I

Mattew Ouza (25:55):

Look like? <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (25:58):

He big timed? You, he

Taylor Self (25:59):

Big timed me. I felt not bad. Cause I didn’t say what’s up. I was just like, Hey, what’s the wifi.

Mattew Ouza (26:03):

Oh shit. What if he’s like, who the fuck do I look like? Then he is like, it’s hotel 5, 6, 3.

Taylor Self (26:11):

I wish

Sevan Matossian (26:12):

I’m the guy who could talk you best?

Mattew Ouza (26:14):

Wait, what? This is. This is not real. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

Hey, Hey, uh

Taylor Self (26:20):

<laugh> this is not

Sevan Matossian (26:21):

Real. That is real. That is of course that’s Dave, but we have Kowski Dave and Tommy marque. They, they love this show. Um, what about, um, what about the guy speaking of, uh, uh, Matto Keith and Jason Hopper. What about the guy out there? Uh, in the in event, uh, in, in this last event, the rope climb event, event three, um, who was out there, uh, struggling with the last two rope climbs with the H WPO shirt on Tim.

Andrew Hiller (26:49):


Sevan Matossian (26:49):

Was at some point. Does Matt just walk out there on the floor and just rip the shirt off him? Sorry, buddy. Just seriously, like just walk out there and just tear the shirt off him. No,

Andrew Hiller (27:01):

I wonder, uh, he, he just has to follow the program. Right? And then he’s like, yeah, I think he’s representing my program. He doesn’t work with Matt directly.

Taylor Self (27:09):

No, he had another, he had another coach in the coach’s area and I forget what, uh, he looked familiar, but also

Andrew Hiller (27:17):

I don’t, that guy is the guy that James was talking about is, uh, he, he knows him rather close. And he’s coming back from his, uh, P E D suspension.

Taylor Self (27:27):

This guy’s Nick Thomas.

Andrew Hiller (27:28):

Nick Thomas. Correct? I looked it up. It was Oscar he took or, and from James, he said that his woman tainted his supplements.

Sevan Matossian (27:39):

Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.

Taylor Self (27:41):

Bill’s crazy. Ex-girlfriend story. She

Andrew Hiller (27:43):

Got that. That would be that I’d be so fucking pissed.

Taylor Self (27:45):

<laugh> break up with me, Twitter. Wow.

Sevan Matossian (27:49):

Hey, we need to find, we need to find out how that happened.

Andrew Hiller (27:52):

We gotta, we gotta get her on the show. We should

Sevan Matossian (27:54):

Him on the show.

Taylor Self (27:57):

The, I

Andrew Hiller (27:57):

Know I want her on the show. Let

Sevan Matossian (27:59):

Just up. Do you think if I date, you think if I dated that chick, I, I could put on some muscle

Taylor Self (28:03):

For sure.

Andrew Hiller (28:05):

<laugh> you get a gym shark sponsorship. This thing I take her to the podcast, the moon.

Taylor Self (28:09):

What do you think? She’s thinking when she slips altering into his cranberry juice,

Andrew Hiller (28:13):

She’s like he wants him to go. She wants them to go to the games. Hey,

Taylor Self (28:17):

Here’s the craziest thing. It was one of those rhino pills from the gas station. She didn’t realize there was bad acceptance.

Sevan Matossian (28:23):

Is that true?

Taylor Self (28:25):

Those, those Hornets horn weed dude, I took a whole bottle of that. One time

Sevan Matossian (28:33):

Blew knee out. You took a whole bottle of that and blew your knee out.

Taylor Self (28:35):

I was like 13 dude.

Andrew Hiller (28:37):

His hair fell out.

Sevan Matossian (28:39):

Oh, did you really did that make your Dick painfully hard?

Taylor Self (28:43):

Uh, I mean, I was 13. It was always painfully hard. Right?

Sevan Matossian (28:47):

Yeah. I remember that. I

Taylor Self (28:48):

Remember that

Sevan Matossian (28:53):

As, as, as Brooke crossed the finish line, I want to give mad props to Tia. Uh, I Tia grabbed her and forced her into kind of this bear hug. Like basically what I saw there is just taking any of that negativity that she might have carried over the finish line away from her. Like, Hey, I love you. It doesn’t matter. You did great. And then, and then when they came out of the hug, the first face that Brooke saw was Tia, smiling, relaxed face, no wrinkle, no furled brow. I thought it was just this great moment. Um, of, of, of fantastic parenting is the way I saw it. I, I guess other people would see this fantastic coaching, but, but took the weight off of her, right? Like, Hey, we can mourn about this later. You did great. You finished let’s keep going. I mean, that can be devastating, right? A 23rd place finish be standing out there. You’re world class athlete and fucking, uh, um, Bailey rail. Just fucking put a clinic on you.

Andrew Hiller (29:49):

Have you seen the Michael Jordan documentary? Yep. The last dance Simonon.

Sevan Matossian (29:54):

No I haven’t. I heard it’s awesome.

Andrew Hiller (29:56):

It is awesome. And the reason I bring that up is because.

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