Sevan Matossian (00:00):
Bam. We’re like, appreciate
Zach (00:01):
That.
Sevan Matossian (00:02):
There it is, dude. Thanks for coming on. Oh, Hey, let me change your I’m gonna change your name here to oh, um, say it again.
Zach (00:11):
Oh my it’s my first mistake. I’m a, I’m a listener. I definitely should have put my IG name on there. I knew you, I should have known you do this
Sevan Matossian (00:17):
Drifting and
Zach (00:18):
Lifting,
Sevan Matossian (00:19):
Lifting.
Zach (00:21):
Yep. Simple and catchy.
Sevan Matossian (00:24):
And then I’ll do, I’ll just space this out. See if that does it.
Zach (00:33):
Yeah, that perfect.
Sevan Matossian (00:35):
What’s up Zach. Hey, why drifting and lifting is drifting. Isn’t that? What cars do?
Zach (00:39):
Yeah, a little bit, but it’s also, I guess a little bit of a, like, just traveling around roaming around. Um, you know, especially when I was a little bit younger, a little bit of a adventure still loved to, you know, do stuff, experience stuff. Me and my, uh, girlfriend just moved up to Colorado from Texas about a little over a year ago, for instance. So we definitely like to, you know, have fun and, you know, experience different places and things.
Sevan Matossian (01:03):
And, and so BA I think I did a lot of that when I was young too. Basically. You mean just like being a pickup truck drive around little cities, sleep in the back of the truck, hike trails camp, just do whatever you lived that life.
Zach (01:12):
That’s it, that’s it not so much. Uh, didn’t not as a, you know, not the full van life or full RV life, um, you know, full time, but you know, taking little trips like that went on a, like a three week backpacking trip over to Europe, back in my twenties, that type of stuff.
Sevan Matossian (01:28):
Oh, that’s cool. Um, I, I had a, uh, Toyota pickup truck and, uh, kind of a weird story. It, it actually got, um, uh, towed away and when it got towed away, I, the police never called me to tell me it had been towed away. Sure. And so it was, was a fucking mess. No, no, sorry. It was stolen. I reported it stolen then it was found and they never told me it was found. And so by the time I looked into it to see that it was found, I couldn’t afford to get it out of the, you know, graveyard, you know what I mean? Like yeah. The value, it was gonna be like thousands of dollars to get it out, but it was only worth thousand bucks. It kind of sucks. It was like my first car ever.
Zach (02:07):
But did they, was it, was it more because it had been there for so long?
Sevan Matossian (02:10):
Yeah. Yeah. But it was their fault. It was fucking insane. Horrible. But, but either way I lived in the back of that. I went all over the United States in the back of that truck and it was awesome. And I had a dog and I would just go places and just sleep in the back of my truck. Yeah. It’s cool. It was a good life, man, if you, if you’re, how old are you?
Zach (02:26):
Uh, 32.
Sevan Matossian (02:27):
Yeah. If you’re, if you’re in your teen, late teens or your twenties and you never just fucking get out and hit the road, man, you’re missing out, especially, especially in this country. It’s, we’re so stoked that we have all these road networks and cool towns and all this shit.
Zach (02:41):
Yeah. Travel’s so travel’s so easy. I mean, you know, you can just pick up and go. I mean, I guess gas prices are a little more these days, but you know, it’s, it’s still,
Sevan Matossian (02:49):
You could do it.
Zach (02:50):
It’s still not bad. Right. It’s still not bad.
Sevan Matossian (02:52):
You could do it. I had a can opener and I just ate like canned food. I just ate. I remember just eating a lot of like canned garbanzo beans and just shit like that. Yeah.
Zach (02:59):
Right. You know? Hey, and
Sevan Matossian (03:00):
It was a good ass life. He might. Why did you move, why did you move to Texas?
Zach (03:05):
Well, from Texas, we, we raised in Texas, grew up in Texas. Okay. Uh, moved to Colorado, the Denver area.
Sevan Matossian (03:12):
Okay.
Zach (03:13):
Um, but honestly kind of what we were talking about just to something new. Um, I’d been in, been in Texas, living there for, you know, pretty much all my life went to college, you know, from Dallas to the north Texas area went to college in central Texas, um, in St. Marcos. Um, but you know, it just both kind of the, the pandemic helped a lot, you know, kind of being stuck inside and like, what are we doing here? Is this where we wanna be, do we wanna, we had always kind of joked about moving and then those jokes just every day got 1% more serious until we were talking about getting new jobs and moving.
Sevan Matossian (03:49):
And your girlfriend sounds cool. It’s cool to have a mate. That’s like, just up for that.
Zach (03:53):
Right. And you know, we, we had talked before, we both kind of always wanted, we were both raised in Texas and always wanted to live elsewhere. She went to college up in Oklahoma. So got that experience too, but it was always kind of a traveler before we started dating, um, as well. And so, you know, and when you have a partner it’s even easier sometimes being on your own’s a little bit scary for people, especially if you never done it, once you do it, you get more used to it and more comfortable. I’m sure as you know, but it’s, it’s uh, with a, with a mate, you know, with, especially your best friend, it’s, it’s fun.
Sevan Matossian (04:22):
What, what kind of car do you have?
Zach (04:24):
Uh, a Kia Sorento, a little small SUV. <laugh>,
Sevan Matossian (04:27):
Uh, reliable. That’s a reliable, yeah. Yeah. That’s all you need.
Zach (04:30):
Yeah. I mean that better gas mileage. I used to have kind of a lifted Toyota Tundra, um, with the bigger tires and the blacked out rims. And again, the what I call my dream, my dream car, I had that, but this is a little cheaper, a little more, uh, efficient gas wise.
Sevan Matossian (04:45):
Yeah. It’s the one you hang out with your lady and travel around the country.
Zach (04:48):
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Sevan Matossian (04:50):
So you saw the, the, the episode, um, after I went to Disneyland.
Zach (04:56):
Yeah. That was what made me reach out to you, cuz it was, uh, it was interesting hearing your perspective on things and you know, I mean, I’m sure that place is even more than most places, but I think a lot of people will kind of relate to what you were saying. Just going around kind of seeing, seeing the size of people these days.
Sevan Matossian (05:11):
Um, give me one second. Something happened with your audio? All of a sudden, all of a sudden it’s like popping and crackling. Are you just talking into a, uh, computer?
Zach (05:19):
No, I’m using my phone.
Sevan Matossian (05:21):
Hmm. Uh, will you just hang up and, and log back in for a second? Uh,
Zach (05:24):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (05:25):
Yeah. Someone’s yeah. And someone’s right. His audio is messed up or that’s my headphones. No, no something went sideways with the audio. We’ll have him, we’ll have him log out and come back in. That was, that was a weird crackling, right? It seemed like he was, he was even using like AirPods or something. Good morning. Corey, Eric, Heidi, Corey, Corey, Eric Corey, Corey Bruce. That’s a lot of Corey’s listening to the show. Corey Polito, PDO and Corey Leonard. Uh, Sam. Good morning. We’ll see. All
Zach (05:57):
Right. How’s that sound?
Sevan Matossian (05:58):
Oh, much better.
Zach (05:59):
Perfect. Okay.
Sevan Matossian (06:00):
Yeah. Thank you much, much, much, much, much better. Okay. So you saw the episode and then, and then, and what were you thinking?
Zach (06:07):
Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, I’ve, I thought that what you were saying was, was true. One of the things love about your show is just how, how real you are with it. But I think it was real relatable. Like I’m sure Disneyland is a bit more personified than some places, but I think a lot of people just walking around everyday life, see the size of people these days and how there’s a lot of very, you know, there there’s no seem being, you know, slightly overweight. You need to lose 10 pounds versus you need to lose a hundred pounds.
Sevan Matossian (06:35):
The, just the people, people in carts. I, I seriously think the, the more and more distance I get from Disneyland, I’m realizing that. So I used to go to A’s games, the Oakland athletics games within high school or with my friends and we’d sit in the bleachers and we did that to drink alcohol. Okay. As I did, I didn’t go, I drank, went there to drink beer. Right. Um, and, and I think that people go to Disneyland to eat sugar. I don’t, I, I seriously don’t think it’s any, I think it’s just an excuse. It’s like when I used to smoke cigarettes, all I would do was move from point to point smoking. So I’d be like, okay, I’m gonna go to work now. And then I’m gonna take, I couldn’t wait to take my break. So I could be in the back with the smokers. I’m gonna go to this coffee shop so I can smoke. I think that you reach a size of certain size of a human being. Let’s say a 400 pound human being and your life has to you’re you become like a hummingbird. Ironically, you have to move from point to point consuming sugar. I’m guessing. No one’s ever told me that, but I’m guessing,
Zach (07:30):
Man, you are, you are right from a, from a guy that was, I mean, I’m a big guy still I’m about 200 2230 pounds, depending on, you know, the <laugh> how healthy I’m being at the time. But I used to be about the highest number I ever saw on a scale was 341 pounds. I think I bigger than that at one point. But I just say that cuz that’s the number I saw.
Sevan Matossian (07:50):
Yeah.
Zach (07:51):
But from somebody who was that big and my life was, was kind of like that you’re a bit of an addict and people, you know, kind of throw that term around, but being a food addict is, is real. And you mentioned, you know, kind of going from point to point to point and you know, you always, you hear people talk about, you know, I like you mentioned, you’re planning your next cigarette. I’m gonna have a cigarette here. Yes. All right, sit here. I’m gonna do a cigarette. There are people that wake up and their first thought is all right, what am I gonna eat? What am I gonna? And then before they go to bed, you know, what’s, what’s, what’s the food for the next day. And I think there’s a lot of people that they could, you know, do without thinking about food for a bit. You know, it’s just it’s but it’s hard. You’re an addict. You’re addicted.
Sevan Matossian (08:36):
It’s hard.
Zach (08:36):
Yeah. And you know, you’re driving home and it’s like, what am I gonna have for dinner? Oh, there’s the taco bell.
Sevan Matossian (08:42):
Okay. I’ll just, I’ll just have one taco and then you go through the drive through and you’re like, fuck it. And you order six and a Coke.
Zach (08:47):
Yeah. Yeah. Three tacos, three Sillas
Sevan Matossian (08:50):
Hey, do you think it’s, it’s a weird thing to talk about. Um, I, I had some friends who, they, they weren’t upset with me. They, um, but, but I, but I hurt their feelings.
Zach (09:04):
Mm.
Sevan Matossian (09:05):
And I, I, I ne I never want to hurt. I’m never like, Hey, I wanna hurt someone’s feelings. And if I do something’s wrong with me, like, I, if when I get to that point where I’m like trying to hurt people’s feelings, it’s like, okay, that’s not a good place to be. It’s, it’s one thing to say something that hurts someone it’s like, Hey, that’s just the way it is. Um, but, but, um,
Zach (09:29):
No, I think, I think what you’re, I think what you’re getting at is true and that’s, it’s hard to have those conversations and that’s part of the problem. There’s the, the, the real information is not being put out there. The because, and if it is, it’s usually coming from maybe a bit of a bootcamp style, a bit of a, you know, militant, you know, you know, you gotta do this, you, you, not from a place of positivity, Hey, let’s have an open, honest discussion about it. And that’s kind of where I try to like, you know, come in. And one of the things I really try to do is, is have that from a, from a, you know, a place of positivity and not ever trying to shame, unfortunately, sometimes feelings get hurt, but you know, if it, if you’re being truthful and real, then that’s not your problem. That’s theirs.
Sevan Matossian (10:14):
And this is the part, this is the non, I was talking with someone about this the other day. This is what we’re competing with in terms of what to put in your mouth, right? You have one of the most beautiful, epic human beings alive, um, pushing, um, uh, this as a substance to put in your body. And you even think the Olympics, which are supposed to be the pinnacle of human performance and health, they’re basically funded by the, by the chemicals that are, that, that I would argue, appear to be the, at the source of the collapse of humanity.
Zach (10:50):
Oh yeah. I mean,
Sevan Matossian (10:52):
And so it’s a trip, right?
Zach (10:53):
It’s crazy. And you, and you, I mean, it’s a, it’s a bold statement, what you just made, but it’s true. You can trace so many things if you trace it all the way back, not just, you know, immediate short term type stuff, like look at it all the way through diet sugar, hormone imbalances are a issue for a lot of people in this country. I mean, the world, you know, is be honest. This country is, is in abundance though. And that’s a big issue is abundance.
Sevan Matossian (11:21):
You would have to, you could, it would seem like you could easily argue that someone who weighs 400 pounds is consuming 10 X with someone who’s 150 pounds. And, and why I say that is just your clothes, the amount you eat, the fuel, it takes the medical resources. You just go down the line and you’re like, and, and, and then I would also argue, and this is where it’s like, I don’t wanna hurt anyone feeling hurt anyone’s feelings. You would also argue that your contribution is, is significantly less. Yeah. And, and your negative contribution. So that’s the other thing that I don’t think. And that’s why I like having people like you on you are in my mind, the modern day hero, because I, I, and I’ve said this a million times, I think we’re just mirrors here. I don’t really think that. And, and we’re parading around as Sevan and Zach, and, and we try to have a little bit of our own identity, but I don’t really think that’s, what’s going on.
Sevan Matossian (12:09):
I think we’re just mirrors and we reflect each other and we’re constantly telling each other what’s okay. And what’s not okay. So when I walk down the street with a cigarette and a Coke, and I’m a hundred pounds overweight, I’m telling everyone around me that that’s okay. Mm-hmm, <affirmative>, that’s what you, you, you wanna, you wanna, uh, I think at that our deepest level, we wanna reflect back to people what they’re showing us. Yeah. And so when someone like you, your narrative changes that you went from unhealthy to healthy. I think everyone around you, uh, gets that spark.
Zach (12:39):
I, I hope so. I mean, I’m trying to put out there that’s, that’s, that’s the plan. That’s, uh, part of my purpose, I feel like for sure. And, uh,
Sevan Matossian (12:47):
Oh, oh, oh, we got the audio issue again. Damn. Um,
Zach (12:49):
Not again. Oh, no.
Sevan Matossian (12:51):
Tr try one more time, logging out and, and then I’ll get you back on track when you come back in.
Zach (12:55):
All right.
Sevan Matossian (12:58):
Okay. Funnel cakes. You guys are talking about funnel cakes. I don’t even know what a funnel cake is, but you’re, you’re Bruce you’re band. I just banned Bruce Wayne forever. That’s it he’s gone. He’ll never post again. Last time I went to Disney world, the best ride was, I don’t know, that ride went on six rides, hit a thousand bucks from my family to get in there. We got, we got six rides. Um, so, so, so you, so we were just talking about basically being a, a role model, an example for people around you.
Zach (13:26):
Yeah. You know, and, and you know, it wasn’t the plan originally, you know, it was like to get healthy for myself, but I, but I saw what it did for other people. People started, you know, cause I, after college was, went into the mortgage industry for a while, I kind of did home refinance loans, worked in a bit of a call center, which, you know, isn’t the healthiest environment. Um, but led to a lot of weight gain, but got into when I got into fit, you know, kind of got into fitness for myself is when I got into fitness back again as a profession. Um, and you know, being able to see, you know, like you mentioned being people coming up to me, Hey, this is amazing. How did you do it? And I’m like, it’s not that hard. And, but the, the things that I thought was simple and I don’t, for lack of a better word, obvious, it was not obvious.
Zach (14:13):
It’s not prevalent. The information’s not out there. So I love using it as a platform to talk to people, you know, bring, you know, my story, my, my pictures, the transformation stuff can bring them in, but talking to people about their lifestyle and what are the things that are gonna lead to that very unhealthy place and how you can get from there. Cause you know, there’s, there’s so much information out there and it’s, it’s hard to decipher. What’s what works, what doesn’t, everyone’s different. And then sometimes people get caught up too much in like the details of things that’s for sure.
Sevan Matossian (14:48):
Can you gimme an example, um, of what something that you and I might think is obvious because of the path we’re on, but that’s not obvious for a lot of people.
Zach (14:56):
Yeah. And, and these are things that I, you know, before was, was horrible about, but it’s things that you learn and it’s like, um, people, people, you could miss a meal it’s okay. You’re not gonna die. I promise you you’re you’re not even gonna be unhealthy. You might actually be healthier if you just, I mean, it’s okay. People think when they, as soon as they wake up, they gotta eat. Uh, breakfast’s most important meal of the day. I mean, you know, maybe if you got a heavy training session in a bit, but for most people and the people we’re talking about, that’s not the case.
Sevan Matossian (15:29):
Right. That’s so interesting. You’re right. I remember when I thought that it was, um, okay. To eat bread, like that just bread was like an important when I was a kid and then one day in high school, one of my buddies who was in great shape was like, Hey dude, why do you eat all that bread? I’m like, what do you mean? He goes, it’s a waste. Yeah. Like, and he that’s just how he explained it to me, you know? Yeah. That’s how like 17 year old boy to 17 year old boy talk.
Zach (15:50):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (15:51):
I’m a big, it’s a waste. And I was like, wow. Yeah, my homeboy just told me bread’s a waste. And so, yeah. And, and now you’re right missing a meal. I would never, ever be concerned about missing a meal. But you think that a large amount of people are like, holy shit, like at three o’clock they’re like, what am I gonna have for dinner?
Zach (16:08):
Yeah. And, and I mean, the bread’s a great one too. When people build their plate, the first thing they start with is the carb source and build it out from there. Yeah. The majority of these people we’re talking about. And I mean, now, you know, I’m a big fan of the, the, the, the liver king and, uh, Paul Saldino. Um, and you know, there’s, I believe your, you know, your protein should be the center of your plate, build it out from there, depending on your, you know, activity level, things like that, what you need to support your life. But most people they look for, is it gonna be a pasta? Is it gonna be a bread? Is it gonna be a what’s what am I building around this car? Which car am I building around? That’s for sure. A big one that people I think have wrong.
Sevan Matossian (16:54):
Um, do you, this journey that you’re, that you’re on did, so I’m guessing you used to think that too. Yeah. You gotta have bread if you don’t have like, bread’s a source of life,
Zach (17:04):
Right? Yeah. And people, you know, even, you know, cause I, I always worked out, you know, I was an athlete growing up and so always lifted when I got real heavy, I was really into like strong man and stuff like that. And it was just kind of an, an excuse to eat, whatever I wanted really. Um, I let my addiction run wild, but, um, it was the, you know, especially if you’re training and stuff, you think, oh, you know, I need carbs. I need carbs and yes, to an extent, but you don’t need that many carbs, especially if you are, if your goal is to reduce body fat and your’re carrying excess body fat. I mean, basically we’re, we’re a fire, right? We’re continuing to burn. You have a lot of gas stored up in your body. If you never, you know, put, if you never run through that, if you’re always just putting more and more in it’s either gonna store or just stay stored, you’re never gonna burn the excess fuel that’s on your body. You need to use that as fuel instead of the carb source.
Sevan Matossian (18:02):
Um, when you were, so when you were a kid, you weren’t overweight.
Zach (18:05):
Oh no. I was always heavy. Um, you were always a big kid just grew up big. Um, I always joke. I was real, real, like tall, uh, younger kid. Um, I was like five, 10 in the fifth grade.
Sevan Matossian (18:18):
Wow. Yeah. I was like five, 10, never.
Zach (18:21):
Yeah. And I’m like six foot now. So I’ve grown two inches in 20 years, so, you know, okay. Things, things, uh, slowed down. I didn’t quite make the NBA, but, um, I was always a big guy, you know, I was a little thinner when I was younger cuz I was tall and then kind of started filling out a bit, played sports though. So depending on the season, you know, you kind of get in a little better shape and stuff like that. Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (18:42):
And then, and then, um, did, did you, were you, did you have insecurities about it as a kid? Oh,
Zach (18:47):
Absolutely. Absolutely. And you got teased about it and you learned to, you know, you learned to be the funny fat guy, you know, and I think one year in high school I won like best sense of humor or something like that. And it was just, you always cracking jokes cuz you, you know, you gotta try to, you you’d think you’re, nobody’s gonna like me for the way I look. So I have to, the personality’s gotta win ’em over, you know?
Sevan Matossian (19:08):
Um, were you ashamed? Like, like you didn’t wanna take your shirt off at swim parties and shit like that. Like if ever went to the beach, you’d be like hiding and
Zach (19:15):
Yeah. Ne never wanted to take the shirt off, but I also was like, I knew the white shirt was like a highlighter, you know? Yeah. If you, if you don’t want somebody to read a word, don’t highlight it, you know
Sevan Matossian (19:26):
<laugh> right. Oh, sorry. You’re crack. Will you log off and log back in again? Sorry. No, goodness. I’m sorry. It’s okay. Don’t worry. Don’t worry. I, I I’ve, uh, I’ve accepted that. That’s the way this show’s gonna be. Protein is my favorite. Mm I know. Wasn’t that video funny? The food pyramid is upside down. Did you see that, that south park episode? How funny was that? Uh, do the schools teach nutrition anymore? Food pyramid. I’m sure they teach some sort of crazy bullshit. Oh, you think that’s what it is. You think it’s cuz you think it’s cuz he doesn’t have headphones. Hmm. I don’t know. I don’t think so. You’ve had lots of people who don’t have headphones
Zach (20:03):
Trying though.
Sevan Matossian (20:04):
Do you have headphones? Do you have AirPods?
Zach (20:06):
I do, but they’re kind of old and I’ve heard that like when I call people on the phone, they don’t sound very good. I can try.
Sevan Matossian (20:11):
Okay. Fuck it. Nah, fuck it. What? Okay.
Zach (20:13):
Yeah. Yeah. No, you’re good. Um, where are we at? I
Sevan Matossian (20:17):
I, so, so you’re in you’re you’re you’re young man. You’re growing up and, and you’re heavy. So it’s always in mind, you know, what’s weird too. Now. Like I will go places and I will be sitting down somewhere and like 30 kids will come in like a classroom full of kids and they’ll be eighth graders. They’ll all, they’ll all be obese.
Zach (20:33):
Yeah. And they right. That’s
Sevan Matossian (20:34):
What I’m like every single one. And I’ll be like, wow. So I guess in the chick who’s like 30 pounds. Overweight’s now the skinny one.
Zach (20:40):
Yeah. Yeah. Thick with two CS.
Sevan Matossian (20:43):
Yes <laugh> and, and, and right. And so then I start to think, I wonder if, if it’s those kids all have, because I was like that too. And I wasn’t even, you know, I wasn’t big or anything, but I just didn’t look like the other kids, you know? So I just, I didn’t. And so I just didn’t wanna ever, I was like always kind of hiding. Yeah. I wonder if, uh, I wonder it’s like that for them.
Zach (21:05):
Yeah. I think everybody grows up with insecurities, no matter what it is. Right. I don’t like my hair, like my nose. I don’t like I’m too small. I’m too big. Right. Whatever. Right. But you know, I think one of, one of those things is very unhealthy. The other thing
Sevan Matossian (21:22):
And, and fixable my nose, isn’t fixable. My height’s not fixable, but I can address my weight.
Zach (21:27):
That’s that’s so true. A great point. Yes, absolutely.
Sevan Matossian (21:31):
And my Bo and my body composition. Yeah.
Zach (21:33):
Right. I mean the shape
Sevan Matossian (21:35):
Of it.
Zach (21:35):
Right. Correct. I mean, there are things you can do, um, you know, besides surgeries or anything like that, there are things that you can do. They require work and that sometimes scares people off too.
Sevan Matossian (21:48):
Is there was a, um, there was a kid in my, uh, junior high who had lats, he was on the swim team. And I remember thinking, oh, I want those. Yeah. And, and, and I work to get ’em yeah. In 49 years or, or whatever, 40 years later I have lats. Yeah. But you gotta, but you gotta work to get ’em. You can get ’em but you gotta just work to get ’em a lot of LA pull downs, then pull ups and then rose in the whole, right. The whole shebang.
Zach (22:10):
Yeah. 5, 5, 6 years ago. I couldn’t do one body weight pull up. Now I’m up to eight. I’m trying. Wow. Strict. I’m trying to get to 10. I’m trying to,
Sevan Matossian (22:19):
Um, and <affirmative> um, and when you, so, so you go through high school and, um, you graduate and how much do you weigh when you graduate? Do you remember? I
Zach (22:27):
Was about, I was about 2 50, 2 60, you know, I was an off, I was an offensive lineman on the football team. So, you know, I was, uh, I was one of the big guys and, you know, they encourage you to be big at that point. They’re not, they’re not trying to say, oh, this might not be the healthiest it’s no, you gotta, you know, be big and strong. And, but yeah, about 2 50, 2 65, I lost a little bit of weight in college, you know, just trying to get in shape, you know, girls. Um <laugh>
Sevan Matossian (22:53):
Yeah, yeah. I know.
Zach (22:54):
Um, and then, and then after college was really when the weight gain started. I probably, it was probably about 2, 2 35, 2 40, maybe two 30, about the lowest, you know, kind of about what I am now, but far different composition, as you mentioned. Um, but, and then from there it was a pretty much steady gain all the way up to about 3 40, 3 50 over my just course of few years,
Sevan Matossian (23:16):
Drink beer, smoke, weed, repeat,
Zach (23:19):
Eat. Uh, yeah, not as, not as much of the weed at that time. Um, you know, wasn’t living in Colorado at that point, but right. Um, you know, it’s, uh, it would definitely drink, drink and eat, you know, was eat. It was wake up, eat was, you know, start from the beginning, right. As a, as an addict, as a, you know, a largely overweight person, you wake up and you gotta think about food. So you wake up, eat, go through your day, thinking about what you’re gonna have for lunch, eat, go through the rest of your day, think about what you’re gonna have for dinner. I mean, I worked out, you know, in between, like I said, I was kind of doing the strong man training and I liked it cuz I could eat whatever I wanted. I wasn’t trying to be on stage, body building.
Sevan Matossian (23:55):
What would you eat first thing in the morning?
Zach (23:58):
Uh, usually I’m, I’ve always liked eggs. Um, now, you know, like, so for instance, it’s a good comparison, right? Cause, um, back then it was eggs plus hash Browns or toast with peanut butter all over it. Usually a piece of fruit and you know, maybe some bacon or sausage mixed in with the eggs, probably about like five to six eggs. Whereas nowadays it’s four eggs with some sprinkled cheese and some sprinkled bacon bits
Sevan Matossian (24:24):
And no, and no and no bread, no hash Browns.
Zach (24:26):
No I got, I don’t need, I don’t need, uh, carbs, you know, at that, at that time of the day. Right. And so I, you know, and I, I usually don’t eat, actually eat till about like 11 or, uh, noon. I kind of intermittent fast a bit. But, uh, so, and it, it, that kind of actually was one thing that helped me because it, it trained my mind to not always think about food.
Sevan Matossian (24:47):
Um, when I, uh, I had a friend come into town and was visiting and we start, I started going out to breakfast with him every single morning and I probably hadn’t had pancakes in two years, like or anything like that. And four days in a, this is a few months ago and four days in a row, I had, uh, pancakes with syrup. Yeah. Probably the most carbs I had in those four days that I probably had in the previous four months. And I’m, I, I dunno if it was water retention or what, but I put on 15 pounds in four days.
Zach (25:13):
Yeah. Uh, yeah. You know, and
Sevan Matossian (25:14):
It’s, and I’m not a big dude. I’m a little dude. Yeah. It was crazy.
Zach (25:18):
Your body will do some crazy things when you ch the initial time, like right away when you change one way or the other. And, you know, even if you start to kind of get healthy, that’s the thing that scare, you know, kind of church people too, is your body might not feel right, right away. If you do cut out all the toxins and poisons that you’re putting in your body currently, or vice versa, you know, if you add ’em right away, I mean, it’s basically what you, you put in your body was in a way poison to your body.
Sevan Matossian (25:45):
Yeah. Do you have those AirPods next to you? Fuck it. Let’s try. ’em
Zach (25:48):
Let, let me go grab ’em. I’ll be right
Sevan Matossian (25:50):
Back. Okay. Let’s see. Let’s see this try. I wonder what that is. That his phone sounds good for a long time. And then all of a sudden it goes sideways. Colin you’re alive. He is alive. He’s alive. He he’s too busy in my DMS to be, to do the show anymore. I saw that new high school graduation requirements, finance and new nutrition. Well, I did, I saw it in Florida that they had the, uh, financial literacy as a now part of the requirement for the state of Florida, which go figure that’s better than, uh, how about those kids that are, I don’t know. I still can’t believe it’s a true story, but I think I saw it on MSN. Uh, those kids who are getting in trouble for using they’re getting charged for sexual harassment for using the wrong pronoun. That’s fucking nuts. Is that, is
Zach (26:37):
That, is that real?
Sevan Matossian (26:39):
I don’t know. I mean, I’ve seen the article now twice. I saw it on MSN. Uh, I, I, I need to look more into it, but fuck. It’s bizarre.
Zach (26:47):
Do I sound better?
Sevan Matossian (26:48):
No. <laugh> you just had a log out and log back in again. Thank you for trying that though. Don’t nah, it’s not a video. We’ll just keep doing it every 10 minutes,
Zach (26:58):
Right? Hey, there we go.
Sevan Matossian (27:01):
Uh, trying to get someone to send his kids to public school, not in this lifetime, not in this lifetime. I know. Hey, how about that? What if those kids are being charged with sexual harassment for using the wrong pronoun? Can you imagine you send your kids to school and they get a sexual harassment, charge someone, someone calls them a fat piece of shit and that’s okay. They just get, Hey, don’t do that. But they use the wrong pronoun and you get fucking the police there. What a mess. My kids can’t my kids can’t be even, I would, wouldn’t even put my kids in that environment.
Zach (27:41):
All right. We got 10 minutes
Sevan Matossian (27:42):
Before and it’s a, and it’s a joke until it’s your kids. Okay. So, um, so then you, so you, you put on this weight and did you have some sort of, um, uh, scare or something? What, what made you like take control of your life?
Zach (27:56):
Yeah, so a hundred percent. So I was train, train and strong man and actually was competing in strong man. Um,
Sevan Matossian (28:01):
And this is down in Texas still,
Zach (28:03):
Correct? Yes. Okay. Uh, yes. And the land of beef and heavy weights.
Sevan Matossian (28:08):
Yep.
Zach (28:08):
<laugh> but, um, yeah, so actually was doing a real heavy yolk carry and, and messed up my back was already having some pain, um, before and, and really injured my injured my back. Um, and it was a pretty, pretty bad, took like six weeks of recovery, um, you know, to even be able to kinda like move, you know, freely. Um, it took about six weeks.
Sevan Matossian (28:31):
Did you break, did you, did you damage a vertebra?
Zach (28:33):
Yes. L five S one was like the major one, you know, the, the, the lowest one and it was my, you know, it really pinched off the sciatic nerve.
Sevan Matossian (28:42):
Okay. It didn’t break though.
Zach (28:44):
Uh, it, it, if it, yes, it did. It’s slightly fractured. They had to repair it. Ah,
Sevan Matossian (28:47):
Yeah. Okay.
Zach (28:48):
Yeah. And so kind of laid up. Um, I had just started at a new company, as I mentioned, I was a mortgage banker and they fired me cause I was in my, within my first 90 days, I was gonna miss so much time. And so, you know, real nice thing, but <laugh>, it
Sevan Matossian (29:01):
Is what it, so then you got even more, you got a little depressed.
Zach (29:03):
Yeah. Oh, for sure. You, I mean, I, I had to, I, I lived, I used to live on my own in an apartment in a nice part of town, um, and you know, kind of shops and bars all around. And then I had to, I had to break my lease and move back in with my mom because I mean, you know, thank God for her. Uh, I couldn’t, but I couldn’t, you know, operate. Um, and so, but you know, long story short kind of, um, started, you know, during the healing process. Well, it was during the, the laid up process in all honesty is when start thinking about your life in a way, um, not solitary confinement, but in a way, if you’re confined to your bed, then all you have is Netflix. I mean, the office gets old quick. So just thinking about life didn’t really wanna be in the mortgage industry anymore. I tried to go to this new company to, to find a new beginning, but really didn’t like it. And my initial, my like my, my.
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