#397 – Jared Halbert

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Alive, bam or alive. Speaking of being alive, when your parents are alive, you might wish they behave different. When they’re dead, you will wish you behave different. Pretend your parents are dead.

Jared Halbert (00:12):

<laugh> that’s a pretty good one. Right?

Sevan Matossian (00:18):

Right. Don’t snap at your parents. It’s it’s awesome. Whenever my kids act like jackass is to me, or even if I’m acting like they jackass and they like react like negative to me, like, you know, like, I mean they’re five and seven, but like push me or like, you know, do a temper tantrum. I’m like, Hey dude, remember you love me more than anything in the world. <laugh> look past my, I, I always just be guilt. I’m like that. Look past my shortcomings. Look past. I’m the greatest thing in your life.

Jared Halbert (00:47):

Your kids do the skateboarding stuff. Huh?

Sevan Matossian (00:50):

Say it again.

Jared Halbert (00:50):

Your kids do the skateboarding stuff, huh?

Sevan Matossian (00:53):

Yeah. The big, the, the big three are skateboarding, jujitsu and tennis. And um, it’s kind of like try, like to get something in like it’s in my mind to get those things in every single day, some aspect of that, you know? Yeah. Um, and in, in, I’d say 50% of the time I’m successful. So four days a week, there’s some, you know, skateboarding four days a week. There’s some jujitsu four days a week. There’s some tennis. Yeah. And, and then every day, some, some, a little portion of schooling, like seven days a week, but, but it could be just, you know, 20 minutes and, and then hyper-focused on math and, um, reading and writing

Jared Halbert (01:32):

Say homeschooled or public.

Sevan Matossian (01:33):

Yeah. Homeschooled, homeschool, homeschooled. Well, it’s, it’s kind of, it’s kind of funny cuz so they they’re actually in a, they’re in a public school program, but we kind of took advantage of the fact that they don’t have to, uh, because of the so-called PA uh, pandemic, they didn’t have to go to school. Yeah. And so we just, we’ve never taken school. We don’t do any of the zoom stuff. They just, they send some work home, but like every quarter we just take ’em to the school and the teacher talks to ’em and the teacher always says, I mean, they’re so young. The teacher always says, wow, they have no peer they’re. And we do Kuan. Do you know, Kuan,

Jared Halbert (02:06):


Sevan Matossian (02:07):

Uh, Japanese program. There’s like 30,000 Kuan centers around the, uh, globe invented in the fifties. It’s basically CrossFit, uh, math and CrossFit reading. This guy invented it in the fifties. You basically do these worksheets and they’re timed. Yeah. And you do like 10 to 20 minutes every day. And it goes all the way up to calculus and all the way up to diagramming sentences. And it’s pretty cool. It’s pretty it’s yeah.

Jared Halbert (02:28):

I’m super dyslexic. So I stayed away from school as much as I could.

Sevan Matossian (02:32):

Yeah. I don’t blame you. You’re doing good.

Jared Halbert (02:35):

Yeah. Hi,

Sevan Matossian (02:37):

Mr. Jared Halbert.

Jared Halbert (02:39):


Sevan Matossian (02:40):

Jared Halbert. Um, seven times you’ve won the tactical games.

Jared Halbert (02:45):

Yeah. I think it’s seven or eight. I

Sevan Matossian (02:47):

Think it’s I knew I’d wrong. I knew I’d be wrong if I tried.

Jared Halbert (02:50):

I think it might be nine now. I, I don’t know. I think it’s nine.

Sevan Matossian (02:54):

Yeah. How many have there been?

Jared Halbert (02:56):

Uh, let’s see. There’s probably been about 10 a year for the last two and a half years. So there’s probably been 20 something. Um,

Sevan Matossian (03:04):

How many have you gone to?

Jared Halbert (03:07):

Uh, 12

Sevan Matossian (03:09):

And, and you won and you won. Oh, so you know the, so have you there’s a time when a guy beat you?

Jared Halbert (03:14):

Yeah, there was, uh, I, I didn’t get first three times discussion.

Sevan Matossian (03:20):

Is that your first three times?

Jared Halbert (03:22):

No, I won the first two. Um, and then it actually turned, he turned into a pretty good friend of mine. Uh,

Sevan Matossian (03:30):

I’m sorry. I’m sorry to hear that.

Jared Halbert (03:32):

He, uh, yeah, he beat me. Uh, he beat me three times in a row. Um, and then I got a little bit better and started beating him after that. So,

Sevan Matossian (03:42):

Uh, what’s his name?

Jared Halbert (03:43):


Sevan Matossian (03:44):


Jared Halbert (03:45):


Sevan Matossian (03:46):

Hey, uh, is there something that you changed in your training to, to, to overcome him?

Jared Halbert (03:51):

Yeah, I started running a lot more. That was about it.

Sevan Matossian (03:54):

So it was in the, uh, physical component where he was, uh, beating you, not in the shooting, uh, component. Oh,

Jared Halbert (04:01):

So, uh, when I first started, I I’d been doing CrossFit for like five or six years and I was the only one that was competing that was using CrossFit mm-hmm <affirmative> um, cause I’m not good at CrossFit at all, but, um, I was significantly stronger than everybody else. Uh, and they were mainly runners I guess. So I would usually do really well on like three or four of the events and then get beat pretty bad on the runs. And, uh, he was when, when he, when he showed up, he was decently strong and he could run. So that’s why I had to fill, I guess, fill that gap and get better at running.

Sevan Matossian (04:39):

How tall are you?

Jared Halbert (04:42):

Uh, six one.

Sevan Matossian (04:43):

Okay. Cause some of the pictures you look like a giant, like in the pictures when you’re next to Tim Burke.

Jared Halbert (04:49):

Yeah. Oh Tim Tim’s about 5, 5, 5, 6.

Sevan Matossian (04:52):

Okay. Well that makes sense then,

Jared Halbert (04:55):

Uh, he might be five, seven. I don’t know. He he’s, he’s like an average CrossFitter size. I think so. <inaudible>

Sevan Matossian (05:02):

<laugh> uh, Jared, um, oh, I apologize for the preposition. I’m about to insert in this question, but it’s partially for comedic sake, but, but I am very curious about the answer. What is there ever a time that being hooked up to the city, sewage is worse than having a septic is a septic ever better?

Jared Halbert (05:23):

Uh, No, I

Sevan Matossian (05:25):

Know. No, no good. Okay. So I that’s a fair pre-supposition

Jared Halbert (05:29):

Yeah. Um, it’s it’s only an option when there is no other options,

Sevan Matossian (05:34):


Jared Halbert (05:35):

Is yeah. Um, but it’s, I’m trying to think, I mean,

Sevan Matossian (05:40):

Is there a good septic system? Is there a septic system it’s like, I’ve lived here 10 years and never had a problem.

Jared Halbert (05:45):

Yeah. Most of them, you don’t have problems for like 7, 10, 10 years, right in there normally about, normally about seven to 10 years is when you start having your first issues. And there, there are some that are better than others, but, um, ideally you have a gravity fed septic system, uh, with a leech field.

Sevan Matossian (06:06):

And so, so a gravity septic is when all the, all the components from the guy who’s shitting his ass to the toilet, to all the piping is higher

Jared Halbert (06:16):


Sevan Matossian (06:18):

Than the, and does it have to be significantly higher or an angle or is just even a little bit higher is good.

Jared Halbert (06:23):

Even a little bit higher is good.

Sevan Matossian (06:24):

Have you ever seen it where below the shitters, below the septic, that can’t even be right? You have seen that. Yeah.

Jared Halbert (06:29):

You have to install a Grindr pump and pump it up to the septic tank and then you have a, uh,

Sevan Matossian (06:34):

A grinder pump for your doses.

Jared Halbert (06:37):

<laugh> and then, uh, it goes, this, the it’s usually a three chamber tank and then you pump it from the third chamber out to the field.

Sevan Matossian (06:47):

So it’s all of a sudden your septics like a cow’s stomach. Yeah. Hey, why not? Why not have a grinder? Why not have a grinder? Uh, um, even if you, if you have it installed properly, if you’re higher, just to kind of expedite the decomposition and, and the leeching out into the field. Now I’m really an unchartered territory by the way.

Jared Halbert (07:07):

Yeah. Um, it’s not necessary. It’s the

Sevan Matossian (07:11):

It’s overkill. Just totally ridiculous.

Jared Halbert (07:13):

Yeah. I never did it like, so I started a septic company cuz I had a irrigation company mm-hmm <affirmative>, which is clean water and I made really sure

Sevan Matossian (07:21):


Jared Halbert (07:23):

I made sure, really sure that I had, like, I was, I was at least seven to 10 employees away from having to touch the septic water. Uh, but the, when the water’s in the last chamber, like there’s two cha chamber tanks and there’s three TA chamber tanks and then there’s some different kinds of systems. But when it’s in the final chamber, it’s actually like relatively sanitary. Um, I mean it doesn’t smell good and it doesn’t look good, but some people say you can drink it and you would be fine, but I, I’m not gonna, I’m not gonna test that.

Sevan Matossian (07:58):

You just take a bucket of that. And do you know what a Burkey is?

Jared Halbert (08:02):


Sevan Matossian (08:02):

Oh, it’s, it’s a, it’s a, it’s a water filter. I wish one of my guys on the back end, I was gonna say, you just take the water from the last septic and just run it through the Berking good to go. <laugh> the Burkey like claims it can clean anything. Hey, so, um, what’s what is the absolute, um, uh, um, by the way, this is not planned at all. I just love, uh, this is just fascinating to me. So I had a septic at my house. Yeah. And I’m the last house before, like it’s just all country. So I was the last house that could get hooked up to city water, which I didn’t do. Cause I don’t because I have a well, yeah, but I did choose, I paid the money and hooked up to the sewage.

Jared Halbert (08:40):


Sevan Matossian (08:40):

And, and that was, and, and I, and we’ve never had any problems, but, um, but so that was smart that I did that. Right. Keep the well to water, the a hundred fruit trees for free. But um, during the California’s worst droughts and, and I have just all the water I could possibly imagine.

Jared Halbert (08:54):

Yeah. That’s definitely, definitely a way to go

Sevan Matossian (08:57):

And then give my shit to the city. What, what’s a absolute no-no to put in the toilet, if you, if you, uh, have a septic,

Jared Halbert (09:05):

Uh, feminine products and then a lot of people mostly get in trouble, but by putting stuff in their disposal like fruits, um, cuz in the fruit seeds, get out into the septic field and seeds, don’t decompose in the, the holding tanks. So then they push out into the field and then they clog up the, uh, holes in the pipe or the drip tubing and uh, wow. That’s what, that’s what gets most people is the seeds from fruits.

Sevan Matossian (09:32):

Wow. Fucking brilliant. Wow.

Jared Halbert (09:35):


Sevan Matossian (09:36):

So, um, um, how come someone hasn’t cracked the code on feminine products? Like, like why don’t we just, you and I should put our heads together after the show and this tampon can be put flushed anywhere.

Jared Halbert (09:46):

Yeah. I mean, there’s a lot of things that you can be really successful at in business. And that’s just one thing I don’t give a shit about

Sevan Matossian (09:53):

<laugh> no, yeah, no, no. Why isn’t because they have wipes, right. That you can flush. Yeah. Like, you know, the ones you wiped your kids’ ass with when they’re babies.

Jared Halbert (10:00):

Uh, yeah. I mean the, to be like a hundred percent safe, you go with the stuff that’s like made, made for RVs. You know what I mean? Cause that’s stuff to decompose really quickly. But I think just the nature of the feminine products, I mean that and like diapers and stuff, never decompose. So like when aliens find us in 3000 years, we’re just gonna be like tampons and diapers. So

Sevan Matossian (10:25):

<laugh> um, uh, and, and is there, is there, is there like a, um, um, I don’t know, you know how, like they say in your stomach, you, you have like a, you have an look, look it, look it, look it already. I know Jeremy, it’s fascinating. Right? We’re supposed to be talking about a guy who could like run you down and, and he’s, he’s, he’s the champion in the world of running you down and shooting you or running away from you with your guns. And instead we’re, we’re talking about practical shit day to day country shit. Um, uh, is there, so does that thing have its own, um, what’s it called? Like your gut has its own biome. Is that the word? I should only use words. I know the meaning of, but your gut has its own like shit. It does to like consume anything you throw in your stomach. Does that septic tank have its own like, Hey, this is the ideal makeup of, of shit in there that, that breaks stuff down.

Jared Halbert (11:17):

Yeah, it does. It has, uh, there’s a lot of bacteria that’s working, that’s breaking stuff down in there and that’s why a lot of people will use like, uh, that liquid plumber or whatever that goes down into pipes. And actually when that gets out into your tanks, it kills all that bacteria and stuff. And it, it it’s counterproductive to at a certain point, cuz it’s not, you’re killing everything in your tanks that are breaking down the organic matter.

Sevan Matossian (11:47):

So, and, and you would think you’d only wanna put stuff down there that since it’s going into your yard, that I get, I mean, me personally, I’m into trees, uh, uh, fruit trees specifically. You’d only wanna put stuff in there that the trees can use. Right. Because this, the, that Lees into the field and the plants are consuming it then. Right?

Jared Halbert (12:05):

Yeah. Normally you can, a lot of times people won’t know where their set field is and you can walk around and it’s the greenest grass and the biggest trees and stuff like that is around the field. Um, it’s typically pretty good. I mean, you wouldn’t want to like turn it into garden, but uh, it’s, it’s typically pretty good for the stuff that’s around it.

Sevan Matossian (12:26):

And, and do you still own that business?

Jared Halbert (12:28):

No, I sold, so I, I actually, I sold that and I sold my landscape and irrigation company all kind of at the same time and then about a year and a half after that’s when I bought the tactical games from Tim. So, um, that’s

Sevan Matossian (12:44):

Was that, was that a good decision?

Jared Halbert (12:47):

Um, as a competitor? Absolutely not. You know, um, the

Sevan Matossian (12:54):

It’s crazy. That’s the first thing I thought when I thought I, I was confused. I’m like, there’s no way this guy owns it and competes. I just, I was just tripping.

Jared Halbert (13:03):

Yeah, no, it’s, uh, it was definitely a struggle for me to, cause I, you know, we had just had the first championship. Right. So like I would say, so I’ve won the first two championships and um, the first championship, I didn’t own the tactical games. The second one I did. Uh, But I would say would kind of be like the tactical games was either gonna continue or not continue and either I was gonna take it over or it was gonna dissolve into nothing. Right. So,

Sevan Matossian (13:35):

Oh really? That it was that’s that was kind of the trajectory it was on.

Jared Halbert (13:39):

Yeah, I, I would. So I got to be really good friends with the founder, Tim who Uhhuh Tim Burke is one of the best men I’ve ever met in my life. He’s a great guy. Um,

Sevan Matossian (13:50):

I met him once, by the way, like more than met him. I went to Africa with him once.

Jared Halbert (13:54):

Yeah. He’s do you go to Africa? Maybe? Did you go hunting with him in

Sevan Matossian (13:58):

Africa? No, no, no, no. Look at me. Do I fucking don’t hunt?

Jared Halbert (14:02):

I mean,

Sevan Matossian (14:03):

I, I, he was, he was guarding me. He was, he was protecting Greg.

Jared Halbert (14:08):


Sevan Matossian (14:09):

He didn’t give a fuck up. I was the first thing he was gonna put between Greg and a bad guy. Yeah. He was gonna just throw, pick me up and throw me at the, he,

Jared Halbert (14:17):

He is 100% the guy you want with you, if something is going on, that is not safe. Um, but he, so he probably didn’t have like the best team around him. Um, you know, uh, Tim was new to business ownership and it’s a lot of people don’t understand that just about every business turns into the same exact thing, if you’re good enough or successful enough. And you’re behind a computer doing spreadsheets and accounting and all, all the stuff that he didn’t wanna be doing. And, uh, so after, you know, I had volunteered and helped with him and he called me and I started kind of helping him with the business side of things. And after a while, he was just like, Hey man, this isn’t what I signed up for. Um, and it was about, I think almost two years now to the date that he had that conversation with me. And, uh, that’s when we started talking about it, but I would say, and I’m not equating myself, but like obviously our audience is a CrossFit audience. So I would say it would be like frowning or Frazier after they had won once or twice, knowing that they can take over CrossFit and the sport continues, um, or they cannot take it over the sport’s over, but they, you know, but then you throw in the factor of like, you still have a lot of good years left of competition in you.

Sevan Matossian (15:43):

Yeah. Yeah.

Jared Halbert (15:44):

So it’s definitely a weird, and I’m, I am separated by the programming process, um, completely. Uh, but that’s

Sevan Matossian (15:54):

Because you’re a competitor.

Jared Halbert (15:56):

Yes. So when, when I’m competing, I am 100% separated from the, um, programming process. Uh, it’s not hard to know, like competitors can pretty much guess, not, not guess, but like it’s like CrossFit, you know, you know that you’re, you’re gonna have like cleaning jerks and snatches and you know, all this other stuff going on, uh, you just don’t know how many, how heavy, how, you know, whatever it is. So, uh, but no, there’s, there’s Jake Mak that works for, and he actually, um, was like a equipment four lead at the CrossFit games for quite a while.

Sevan Matossian (16:33):

Um, okay. Oh, that’s nice. Okay.

Jared Halbert (16:35):

So he’s the one that programs all the events and he pro he, he does like a couple weeks that we had a vent in sawmill. I had no idea what we were doing. I flew in Friday, took a look at everything, you know, said it was good. And then I left Sunday.

Sevan Matossian (16:50):

Is that an issue? Do you get accused of that? Is that, is that, is that

Jared Halbert (16:53):

Oh yes. A hundred percent.

Sevan Matossian (16:54):

Okay. Cause cuz you brought it up. I would’ve never even thought of that, but so, so you just, that’s like something you bring up because it’s like, Hey, listen, I’m not, isn’t that crazy on one hand, if it wasn’t for you, this thing fucking wouldn’t be going on on the second hand, it’s like, Hey, he shouldn’t be competing. He’s on the inside.

Jared Halbert (17:09):

Yeah. But I mean the,

Sevan Matossian (17:10):

How old are you?

Jared Halbert (17:12):


Sevan Matossian (17:12):

Oh, okay.

Jared Halbert (17:13):

Um, the, the thing about you

Sevan Matossian (17:15):

Kind of look like Ben Bergeron a little bit. Does anyone ever told you that in

Jared Halbert (17:18):


Sevan Matossian (17:18):

No. You knew who that is?

Jared Halbert (17:20):

Yeah. I know who he is. All right. Um,

Sevan Matossian (17:22):

The you’re like a version that didn’t show you’re like the UNS showered version of him unkempt. <laugh> like, if he lost, like if he went camping, that’s what you look like. The, the, if Ben went camping,

Jared Halbert (17:31):

If he grew like six inches and gained 50 pounds, um, the, uh, no, it’s it. But the thing about it is be even before I owned the tactical games, I was friends with Tim just cuz I got to be friends with him and I was I’d volunteer when I wasn’t competing and stuff like that. And there was accusations before that, that I’m sure it happens in CrossFit too, like

Sevan Matossian (17:54):

Behind. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. There was this always, they were telling us that we, we were trying to make rich win every year. We were trying to make what not win every year. It was like, it was kind of the opposite too.

Jared Halbert (18:04):

Yeah. In the first,

Sevan Matossian (18:05):

Which was kind of crazy.

Jared Halbert (18:06):

The first championship there was, you know, me and Anton who historically had, we had won every competition up until that point. I think either he or I, that we were competing in together had won every competition up until that point. And they said that the, we were, he and I weren’t doing well after the first day and a half or something. And uh, then a couple events came up. We did really well in ’em and got back up on top and immediately the accusations of protecting the podium came up and they’re just trying to get these guys back up to the top and all that. I mean, it happens in every sport and you just gotta look past it and keep going so

Sevan Matossian (18:44):

Right. Are you love, are you loving this?

Jared Halbert (18:47):

Yeah, man. I mean, I, I, I love shooting. I mainly love the, the two-way community, you know? Um,

Sevan Matossian (18:57):

What’s that? No, no, I don’t know what that is. What do you mean two-way community? What’s that?

Jared Halbert (19:00):

Uh, second amendment community like,

Sevan Matossian (19:02):

Oh, okay.

Jared Halbert (19:03):

Firearm, stuff like that. And then I, I started CrossFit probably six, seven years ago and I opened an affiliate about three months ago.

Sevan Matossian (19:12):

Um, I’m sorry. I’m sorry.

Jared Halbert (19:14):

No, I love it dude.

Sevan Matossian (19:15):

Oh, okay. Good. Okay, good. Um, sorry. That was just me. That’s just me being a baby over here.

Jared Halbert (19:19):

So I guess, you know, it’s just, it’s a good way to bring everything together cuz I mean the tactical game is really what it is, is fitness and shooting. I mean, if you like working out and you like shooting, it’s a, it’s combining those two things. So,

Sevan Matossian (19:34):

But what is the, what is the second amendment? I wanna pull up the second amendment. Let me pull up the second. Do you know it off the top of your head? Like do you have it memorized?

Jared Halbert (19:43):

Uh it’s for the people to the right, for the people to own guns in so many words, but

Sevan Matossian (19:50):

Um, uh, a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Uh, oh wait, it says R E V 1992. Was it revised?

Jared Halbert (20:05):

I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (20:06):

It’s it’s so short.

Jared Halbert (20:08):

Yeah, they should have spent a little bit more time on it. Probably

Sevan Matossian (20:12):

<laugh> oh, oh. Um, what does the second amendment mean? In simple terms? This is all just Google shit. Uh, the second amendment protects an individual that’s like me or you, right? Yeah. Uh, right. To possess a firearm that’s um, uh, a gun right with bullets. Yeah. Uh, unconnected with service and a militia. Meaning like just you and I can have one just like under our bed. Yes. I, I guess if, I guess, and, and to use that arm for traditionally, traditionally lawful purposes, like, um, competitions, uh, shooting bears that are attacking your family and hunting. Yep. And, and such as defense within the home.

Jared Halbert (20:49):

I mean really like the overlooked and I don’t get into like the extremist side of really anything, but the overarching purpose of the second amendment is to protect you, protect you from your go government and tyranny. I mean, that’s, everybody’s like, oh, you know, it’s for hunting and it’s for target shooting. Really what it is is to protect you from your government. Um,

Sevan Matossian (21:10):

How come people, um, don’t understand. And, and you’re talking to like, um, telling you, you’re talking to like just one of the most hardcore, um, uh, former liberals you’ve ever fucking met. I mean, I was fucking born and raised in Oakland Berkeley, right? Yeah. Um, I, I, I may, I’m sorry that I’m even was even born and that I’m alive.

Jared Halbert (21:34):

<laugh> no, man. It’s the

Sevan Matossian (21:36):

Funny thing is why the fuck can’t these people understand? What is the biggest like I, I just think now after what we saw happen in the last two years after watching what happened in Canada, after watching what happened in Australia, I would think everyone or, or, or the UK, I would think everyone in the world would be like, oh my God, they did it right over there. Thank God they have guns over. Thank God the us had guns. If we didn’t have guns, the whole world might be fucked. It might all be just like Hong Kong.

Jared Halbert (22:05):

Maybe the, uh, I think Ukraine’s a pretty good example. They immediately started passing guns out to civilians. Um,

Sevan Matossian (22:13):

But too, too little too late, too little too. Yeah. But, but, but I hear you, but I hear you.

Jared Halbert (22:17):

The, uh, it’s the, the, the funny thing is, and, and I’m not gonna,

Sevan Matossian (22:22):

Yes, please do.

Jared Halbert (22:23):

I’m not gonna mention names, but there’s, there’s been a couple of CrossFiters come over and spend time with Hepner. Um, one of ’em who previously hated firearms and didn’t think anybody needed ’em and stuff like that. And he went out and spent a down the range and he is like, man, I love this. This is, you know, because people don’t realize how fun it, it is super fun. And it’s like golf just with guns. You’re shooting targets. I mean, that, that’s all it is.

Sevan Matossian (22:49):

And, but doing MDMA is fun too. I mean, it’s awesome.

Jared Halbert (22:52):

MDMA is, is that

Sevan Matossian (22:54):

Yeah, it’s ecstasy. It’s like, you get some of you get a bag of that and five of your closest girlfriends and you just run out into a field. But, but, but, but, but, but beyond fun, the guns are like, they’re so important.

Jared Halbert (23:06):


Sevan Matossian (23:07):

Yeah. They’re so important in terms of, of equalizing the field, making everyone think twice before you do something stupid mm-hmm

Jared Halbert (23:14):


Sevan Matossian (23:15):

Before, before you infringe on another man’s, uh, uh, uh, rights. Like I would’ve never, I, I would, I, my whole life, I never thought I would hurt anyone. And then I have kids and, um, like you would have to die if you came in my house at night.

Jared Halbert (23:28):

Yeah. I mean, with

Sevan Matossian (23:29):

My three kids here, you just,

Jared Halbert (23:31):

The there’s a lot of people that say like a tackle games, competition, weekends is a perfect example. There’s 200, 250 men and women out there who are all super physically fit there’s um, I mean, everybody is super nice, but from the outside, looking in, you’re looking at these guys like, oh my God, you know, this guy probably looks like an asshole. Nobody gets in arguments. Nobody, everybody has a good time. Everybody’s joking around. Everything is 100% like the nicest, most welcoming community of people you could ever, like, you could walk up to ’em and say, I hate guns. I think that, you know, the right to have guns. You shouldn’t have ’em anything like that. I’m like, cool, man, sit down, let’s talk about it. Like, it’s the most welcoming group of people that you will. And people from all walks of life, all there’s liberals, there’s conservatives, everything out there. And, uh, that’s the, all that to say is that when you know that you’re around armed people, you’re a lot less likely to be an asshole, um, and, and do something stupid.

Sevan Matossian (24:42):

So, so I, I have a ton of liberal friends. They say they’re liberal, but, but they’re not liberal. And they just can’t give up the label. Um, by, by that, I mean, um, imagine, imagine, and I’m sorry to be so extreme, but it’s just, it’s just really easy. Imagine saying that you’re a Nazi, but the only thing that you didn’t like is that one part about loading the Jews up in the trains and taking ’em over to that, to the ovens. Other than that, it’s great. Yeah. And, and, and I feel like that, like more and more liberals are like, oh, I, I, I, I’m a Democrat. And I’ll be like, well, what about this BLM thing? That’s only, that’s only hurt black people for the last two years. Well, I, I didn’t like that. Okay. Well, what about this part over here about, um, defund the police?

Sevan Matossian (25:21):

Oh, I didn’t like that. It’s like, Hey, when are you gonna realize that? Like, Hey, um, you’re not that I don’t get how, and, and I’m not asking you to defend all liberals by the way, but I don’t get, and I’m not, I’m sorry for making it political, but I don’t get how someone could be for the, um, uh, second amendment and claim to be a liberal. I just, I, I, for some reason there’s a, there’s a disconnect there. Like they need to rethink their there’s, there’s a nuance there. Right? It’s like I used to watch football. Well, I, I used to think I was a football fan until I realized that I was really only a 40 Niner and a Raider fan. I watched every 49ers and Raider game when I was in junior high. But if they didn’t go to the super bowl, I didn’t watch the super bowl. Cause I didn’t give a fuck. I just like my team. And it’s kind of like that. I just feel like that there’s some, um,

Jared Halbert (26:07):

I think it’s just, it’s important to understand that, like, you know, to look at everything, you don’t have to be on one side or the other about everything.

Sevan Matossian (26:15):

Right. Okay.

Jared Halbert (26:17):

You can, you can believe in, um, high taxes for wealthy people and think that you should own a gun. You both of those things, you can have both of those things in your mind

Sevan Matossian (26:29):


Jared Halbert (26:30):

Get along. Um, so like maybe you’re liberal cuz you’re more fiscally liberal. That doesn’t mean that just because you’re gonna vote de Democrat means you have to hate people with guns too. Right. Um, so that’s what, you’re

Sevan Matossian (26:43):

A good dude. You’re a better man than me.

Jared Halbert (26:45):


Sevan Matossian (26:46):

You’re the son, my mom wished she had

Jared Halbert (26:49):

<laugh> but it’s uh, I think it’s important not to just get blinded by a couple of things. Um, and then, and then say that now I have to believe in all of those things,

Sevan Matossian (27:02):

Right. That this is that this is your team and no matter what they say, you’re gonna follow up blindly.

Jared Halbert (27:07):

Exactly. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (27:10):

The, these, um, the have the tactical games always been both sexes.

Jared Halbert (27:16):

Yeah. The first, I think it was the first two. Um, she actually still competes, she got third in the last, uh, so we have like seven to 10 events during the year that are kind of comparable to what, like the regionals were probably okay. The championship. Um, so

Sevan Matossian (27:32):

Are these the, um, okay. And I’m looking at them, it’s on it’s the upcoming events. I’ll pull them up. Sorry, go on. But uh,

Jared Halbert (27:38):

Her name’s Carla Herk. She, I think she competed in the first ever. And I wanna say she was one, I wanna say she was the only one in one of the first two. And then she was one of like one or two in the second or first one, but about a year or so when I bought the tactical games, the first thing we did is we implemented, um, a women’s only tactical games. University is what we called it, but it was a weekend where we sent an instructor out. It was free for the women to come. I think up to 20 is what we allowed. Um, they came, they learned how to use, they learned how to shoot guns. They learned, you know, the different processes, how to be safe, how to unload the gun and make sure it’s safe, stuff like that. Um, when we started doing that, the conversion rate from the people that came to type games, universities to actual coming to the competition was almost a hundred percent. So now we have between probably 15 and 20 women at each competition, uh, which in the firearm, like the competitive shooting sphere is a pretty, that that’s a, it’s about double of what you might see at like a three gun match per

Sevan Matossian (28:48):

Se. So, so it’s kind of, it’s a, um, not recruiting program would be too, too hard, but basically it’s a, um,

Jared Halbert (28:57):

Kinda like a familiarization or like confidence boosting like,

Sevan Matossian (29:01):

Yeah. What about you should have, you should have another one on pussies from Berkeley so I could go like, uh, um, uh, but you could, you don’t, you don’t have to be that exclusive. You could include Boston. Yeah. Boston and Berkeley. That would be good.

Jared Halbert (29:15):

<laugh> yeah. One of, one of the best, one of the best competitors we have is from Boston. He’s a chiropractor from Boston,

Sevan Matossian (29:22):

<laugh> he, he has all the testosterone in the whole entire town <laugh> um, uh, well, okay. So, so I, I, I like that. And, and, and you do that every year. That’s an open course. Is that, where is that held?

Jared Halbert (29:35):

Um, all over the country. We, we actually had, uh, I think we had three or four of them that we rented the range out, send an instructor up there. It’s test Sal. She, uh, amazing person in the, like in the industry. Um, really good shooter. She’s won several times. Um, we send her around and, um, it’s between 15 and 20 people per and I think we had four last year.

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