#392 – Alexis Landot

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam. We’re live. We are live, uh, Mr. Beaver. Hi morning. Is it Alexis?

Alexis Landot (00:10):


Sevan Matossian (00:11):

Can I hear you say it?

Alexis Landot (00:13):

Uh, yeah. I’m uh, I’m uh, Alexis. Hello,

Sevan Matossian (00:16):

Alexis. And say your last name for me.

Alexis Landot (00:18):

Yeah, El. Uh, so in French it’s Alexo but you can say Alexis Lando or

Sevan Matossian (00:28):

Alexis? Lando.

Alexis Landot (00:29):

Yeah. Nice. Oh yeah. Nice. Uh, my last name

Sevan Matossian (00:33):

From France, Alexis Lando from France. Yeah. Ola. No fuck.

Alexis Landot (00:39):


Sevan Matossian (00:42):

Um, can you play Mr. Beaver? The, um, uh, most recent post by, um, Alex Slen from France. This is a, a beautiful post by him done while I put my socks on. Can we watch this?

Alexis Landot (00:57):


Sevan Matossian (00:58):

Ah, yes, here we go.

Alexis Landot (01:00):

Oh, did we climb this building? The main difficulty on this one is that the windows are really, really wide, which only allows us to move really slowly. We’re going Barefoots because we have a way better grip on the building this way. Also keep in mind that we trained for about a year before we actually climbed it. And don’t worry, we made it safely to the top. How did we climb?

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

Oh my goodness. Alexis, uh, are your parents alive?

Alexis Landot (01:31):

<laugh> my parents are, uh, obviously, uh, stressed, but also, um, proud of me in a way.

Sevan Matossian (01:39):

I’m sure. I’m sure. No, no one tells. Can you imagine, um, uh, thank you, Caleb. Can you imagine you, um, have a kid it’s your greatest project of all time? I mean, yeah, there’s no building, you can climb. That’s greater accomplishment than what your parents think of you. And then your greatest accomplishment in the world wants to climb buildings without a rope.

Alexis Landot (02:01):

<laugh> so it’s, it’s funny. Cause it’s, it would be, it would, it would make me really stressed because I don’t like when I see other people doing dangerous things, right. Uh, for the simple reason that I’m, I feel confident when I, um, when I, uh, own what is happening, you know, when like I’m in control. So this is why I like to climb without a rope, because once there’s no rope, I’m the only one who has a control over, uh, the situation. And it makes me, uh, really, uh, it’s, it’s really, uh, really realizing stress. Like I’m not stressed when I’m in this kind of situation, but when I see somebody claiming without a rope or something like this, I can be much more stressed.

Sevan Matossian (02:48):

It, um, that’s interesting. You hear about that about fighters, right? When they’re in, they say the most stressful thing is watching their friends fight, not when they’re fighting.

Alexis Landot (02:56):

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I totally understand because, uh, when you are doing the thing you are in control and what happens, uh, with your life will depends on your ability on your own ability. But I don’t, I don’t think I would like to see other people, uh, actually, uh, climbing like, uh, or, you know, like having a, uh, um, a kid that climbs like this.

Sevan Matossian (03:22):

Um, I, I, I was at an event one time and there was the motorcycles jumping off of ramps and doing back flips. And when I watched that on TV, I enjoyed it. But in person, I hated it. It was so stressful the whole time. I was just worried about the kids on the bikes, but on TV, it was great.

Alexis Landot (03:42):

Yeah. Well, there, there’s also the things where, uh, when you watch things on TV, um, it feels like everything is well prepared. Like everything is gonna happen the way it should, because you know, like on TVs, there’s only like, uh, everything is, you know, thought through, uh, when you see things in life it’s really different. You’re living, it’s, uh, much more

Sevan Matossian (04:06):

Right. That that’s a, that’s a great point. We have this illusion that nothing can go wrong on TV, but then we saw, but we saw Chris rocket slapped across the face. So I guess we all know that shit can go sideways.

Alexis Landot (04:18):


Sevan Matossian (04:19):

Oh man. Um, uh, Caleb, can you bring up one of these portraits with, um, uh, that, um, on his Instagram where he’s, you can see his body, you can see how he is all jacked and shit. Yeah. How old are you? Alex’s

Alexis Landot (04:35):

I turned 22 in, uh, February

Sevan Matossian (04:39):

And this, this climbing thing, you know, some people might have a goal, right? Like, Hey, I’m going to climb. Um, crazy. And how, how much do you weigh?

Alexis Landot (04:49):

Uh, I’m really light. So I used to be around, uh, seven tea kilograms. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and now I’m more around 67, 68 kilograms. And I wish for, like, I’m gonna try to lose weight for the next two weeks to be as light as possible for my next time.

Sevan Matossian (05:11):

And can you talk about your next climb or is that always a secret until it happens?

Alexis Landot (05:15):

Uh, yeah, I can. Um, so I can talk about it. So it, um, I don’t know yet which one’s gonna be, it’s gonna be either a building that is, uh, in Paris. That is, uh, like it used to be like, it was built to be like, uh, the, you know, business district and everything, but they run out of money, so they just let the building there. And now it’s almost abundant, like, uh, almost, uh, goes, uh, place, you know, so it’s really scary because I think the holes, the holes looks, looks safe, but you know that they didn’t check anything like a few years probably. So this is a little bit challenging, a little bit scary.

Sevan Matossian (05:56):

And, um, uh, sorry to interrupt. Sorry to interrupt Alex. This one of the comments says he’ll be climbing your mom’s bed next. <laugh> uh, excuse me, fuck off. Okay, go on. Sorry. I apologize for the interruption. I apologize. Let’s get back. Um, and how can you talk about that? Aren’t you afraid? Like, if you say it, then the six people who listen to this podcast will then report it to the police and they’ll they’ll come stop you.

Alexis Landot (06:19):

So the, the, the it’s like an American, uh, USA podcast. So I feel confident that it’s not gonna go over to the policeman in France, but I don’t think I would say this to a French, uh, you know, cuz it’s yeah, it’s I, I usually don’t talk about my next climbs. I usually keep them secrets, but I’m trying to tease the thing a little bit more these days, cuz I feel like sometimes it can work. So if this climb, if I don’t do this to climb on those next weeks, I will do, uh, a one in um, in Poland,

Sevan Matossian (06:57):

Maybe. So it’s either or so if you don’t do France in two weeks, if you don’t do Paris in two weeks, you’ll do Poland. What if you do Paris in two weeks then will you also go do Poland?

Alexis Landot (07:04):

Yeah. Yeah. I’m gonna do both anyway, but I don’t know which one

Sevan Matossian (07:08):

Fuck boss

Alexis Landot (07:08):

I have to. I have to call my friend to see how we’re gonna deal, like how we’re gonna organize and stuff, cuz we’re not sure yet, but I, I cannot tell exactly which building I’m gonna climb in Poland. Uh, cuz uh, then I could have problems, but uh, in France it’s, you know, like I’ve done almost all the most famous skyscrapers in France except fel tower because it’s Notel tower is not interesting. There’s no challenge in climbing fel tower. Uh, everybody does it. Uh, it’s more like exploration thing, but it’s, it’s really easy, but except fel towers, there’s like one building that’s is uh, I, I didn’t climb yet and this is the one I want to do, uh, you know, this summer or this uh, autumn.

Sevan Matossian (07:56):

Um, can you show us Eiffel tower real quick? We can’t let that go. The Eiffel tower is too easy for our guests, a Landis, London. Uh, can you pull and Caleb good job showing the weight 147 pounds. He wants to get down to, I’m assuming you want to be light because then you get more, uh, you have more control over your body. Easier to climb. Right? Same thing with when I do, when I do muscle up, it’s easier if I lose 10 pounds, way easier.

Alexis Landot (08:18):

Yeah, exactly. I, I used to be even lighter than this. Um, basically I was uh, 72 kilograms mm-hmm <affirmative>, which is, uh, starting to be a lot for my heat cuz I’m really small. Uh, and I went down to 65 kilograms, like 65. I was like my, you know, my cheekbones were like this, like I was

Sevan Matossian (08:38):

Uh, yeah, yeah, Conor McGregor.

Alexis Landot (08:40):

But I had like the one arm pull up easy. Like everything was easy. My weight to strength ratio was the best.

Sevan Matossian (08:48):

Ah, what the strength ratio.

Alexis Landot (08:49):

Yes. Now I’m little more. I gained a little bit of fat, a little bit of muscle. So I’m like 70, 67 or 68. Uh, but I’m gonna try to go down to 67 or 66 for my next climb. Oh hi, uh, 70 milli

Sevan Matossian (09:07):

<laugh> what did she say? Can I have your phone number?

Alexis Landot (09:10):

I’m I’m French.

Sevan Matossian (09:11):

Oh, um, how, how tall are you?

Alexis Landot (09:15):

I’m I’m really small. I’m uh, one meter 1770 centimeters. 1, 1 70

Sevan Matossian (09:24):

Caleb who’s taller. Me or Alexis? Lexi.

Alexis Landot (09:27):

I think I’m uh, I think you are taller

Sevan Matossian (09:29):

<laugh> no, you, no, I’m not taller than anyone. I’m not talking that. Oh <laugh> I was I’m taller than my, my seven year old son by this much.

Alexis Landot (09:38):

Oh <laugh> well, in, in France, people are usually also a little bit smaller than in USA. You, people in USA are really tall

Sevan Matossian (09:47):

When you climb the building. Do you, do you, um, do you wear a mask? No, I’m joking. I’m joking. Fuck. <laugh> joking.

Alexis Landot (09:54):

I know. I feel like we’ve we’ve passed.

Sevan Matossian (09:57):

Oh, you’re we’re the same size. You’re a little bit taller than me.

Alexis Landot (10:01):

Oh, whoa.

Sevan Matossian (10:01):

<laugh> I’m just a tiny bit tiny, tiny this much.

Alexis Landot (10:06):

Well, I, for the French Don standards, I’m small, but I’m not like incredibly small. I’m just, you know,

Sevan Matossian (10:12):

Like in small. Yeah. You can’t tell in a picture in a picture. You look normal.

Alexis Landot (10:16):

Oh, thanks. Yeah. <laugh> but um, yeah,

Sevan Matossian (10:22):

We were, we were talking about, uh, what were we just talking about? Uh, Eiffel

Alexis Landot (10:25):


Sevan Matossian (10:25):

Eiffel tower. Yeah. So why is the Eiffel tower easy? Why is the Eiff tower easy?

Alexis Landot (10:29):

It’s it’s like a ladder, you know, it’s like, uh, 250 meters ladder. Uh it’s it’s really not interesting.

Sevan Matossian (10:37):

It’s the holds are so obvious that that uh, uh, um, a fat lady could do it

Alexis Landot (10:45):

Maybe. Yes. I, I didn’t climb

Sevan Matossian (10:48):

A fat lady with the mask on. Could do it <laugh> and, and if she’s vaccinated, she could do it

Alexis Landot (10:52):

OB obviously <laugh> but um, so it’s like, um, it’s a little bit too easy. So yeah, I, yeah, I, I try to like keep, um, doing harder and harder challenges cuz this is why this is how I want to build, uh, myself. I want to progress, uh, with finding, uh, the hardest challenge I can not, uh, you know, like I’m not trying to build, to climb iconic buildings. I’m really doing this for the sports aspects. So this is the main difference between somebody who, who does urban exploring, for example, and me is that I, I don’t care about, I care about how the building is beautiful, but I really see it as a sports achievement, physical achievement.

Sevan Matossian (11:43):

There are people who like set goals for themselves, you know, like, um, I, I don’t know why they do it, but, but they do it. Um, they’ll say, um, there’ll be a local mountain in the area, right? Like I’m in California. We have all of these mountains and some people will be like, okay, even though they’re not mountain climbers, they’ll be like, I want, I wanna go to the summit of that, that of Mount Shasta. That’s a mountain by me. Yeah. And so they’ll work, they’ll go, you know, go to a CrossFit, gym and train and then they’ll take some mountain climbing classes and then they’ll hire someone and they’ll climb and they’ll check it off their list. Um, that’s not, yours is not that, right. This is a lifestyle. You have this isn’t um, this isn’t a, uh, these aren’t, the buildings are goals unto themselves, but yeah, but urban climbing is a lifestyle.

Alexis Landot (12:29):

So I feel like, um, if basically if you want to do any activity, uh, really well and you want to do it, um, at its best, it has to become your lifestyle. You know what I’m, what I’m, you know what I’m saying? Cause we are not shaped by our training or by our, uh, diet. We are shaped with our environment. And uh, with this in mind, you have to, like, in my opinion, you have to choose what your environment is. Is it, uh, the couch <laugh> is it the couch in front of the TV or is it, uh, um, the wild or is it in the, in the mountains? And for this reason, I feel like I, my goal in life is to climb buildings and you know, like, uh, get better or climb, you know, even climb, uh, climbing or just doing achievements in sports in general.

Alexis Landot (13:24):

Like if today, if tomorrow I don’t want to do buildings, I’m just gonna go to regular rock climbing. I will, I, I want to make, um, to set goals and achieve them. But I feel like my, my environment is like the urban places, you know? And it was especially this way when I tried, uh, when I tried park and I trained for like two or three years park and the urban, the urban place became my, my environment. And this is when I thought, you know, like, well, it’s the natural thing to want to climb? You know? Then

Sevan Matossian (14:01):

Your girlfriend wants you to come back to bed.

Alexis Landot (14:04):

<laugh> no, no, I, I just heard the keys, so, uh, it’s making my mom coming home, but I’m not sure.

Sevan Matossian (14:11):

Um, uh, can you pull up a picture of, um, can you pull up Danielle Brandon’s? Um, Instagram. Caleb, do you have a girlfriend? Alex’s

Alexis Landot (14:17):

Yeah, I have a girlfriend. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (14:20):

And, and, uh, does she, how does she, does she do urban climbing?

Alexis Landot (14:23):

No. No, she, she, she likes, uh, she’s really supportive though.

Sevan Matossian (14:28):

Oh, what is her, what is her lifestyle? She’s not a, she doesn’t sit on the couch. Does she?

Alexis Landot (14:33):

Uh, no, no, no. Well, she, she, she also does, uh, sports, uh, and, uh, yeah, she’s, she’s, she’s really supportive. Who, who is

Sevan Matossian (14:42):

That? So this is a girl who, um, um, every four times she’s been on the show a handful of times, but every four times I invite her. Um, she doesn’t show up once or two, and I was just thinking you’re the two best looking people I’ve ever had on the podcast. And I think you’re besides a UFC fighter, who’s probably has some brain cells that are dead. Um, can you put to play the video of her climbing on the couch? I think it is the most beautiful. Do, do we know where that is of her walking around? I think it’s my favorite picture. Ah, yes. My favorite video of Danielle Brandon, this is, she’s just opening the blinds. This is very simple. She’s kind of like an urban climber indoor look, she climbed up onto the couch. She’s waiting for you to climb by Alex’s <laugh> she’s opening them. I just found it FA I was just a, um, she’s probably one of the most beautiful guests we had on the show. And then I, and I look at you and I look like, and I, so I just thought it would be a good joke to say, okay, the two most beautiful people have

Alexis Landot (15:35):

<laugh>, but she didn’t came to the show. The

Sevan Matossian (15:38):

End she did in the end. Oh, she did? Yes. She’s come on several times. She’s a great guest. She’s a great guest. Uh, and then, so we invited you on the show you came on at the end instead of the beginning. And then I don’t know if you believe in God, I don’t, but maybe I should believe in God the next day.

Alexis Landot (16:01):

Oh yeah. You

Sevan Matossian (16:02):

Were on Joe Rogan’s Instagram account and a bunch of people text me and goes, he didn’t flake on accident. He big timed. You he’s big time now he’s on Joe Rogan. He’s too big for you.

Alexis Landot (16:15):

He wasn’t excellent. I know,

Sevan Matossian (16:17):

I know was an accident and I was so happy for you. I was so fucking happy for you

Alexis Landot (16:22):

That you,

Sevan Matossian (16:22):

You were on the Joe, is this Joe Rogans yeah. Yeah. Here it is. Did this blow you away? Were you like, wait, wait, what?

Alexis Landot (16:30):

Yeah. At first and I, I saw, I thought he tagged at first. I was like, wait, he tagged me. Did he tagged Leo? Cuz Leo was, my friend were climbing together. But then I saw that he did actually like repost Leo Orban. And then I was in the end of the credit, but still I think Leo gained like 50 K followers or something. Wow. Like he, he gained like 50 or 60 K followers and I gained, um, uh, 15, he gained 50. I gained 15.

Sevan Matossian (16:59):

<laugh> nice. Well, what’s, what’s fascinating too. Is people then also did say, and I appreciated this compliment, even though it’s not true. They said, oh, Joe, someone on Joe Rogan’s team must be watching your podcast Seon. And that’s how they learned about that post mm-hmm <affirmative>. Do you know how the connection made? Do you know how Joe Rogan stumbled across that? Um, you and

Alexis Landot (17:15):

I have no idea about it. Maybe he, um, I, the video was from Leo’s Instagram. He was not from mine, but he, it, it’s not a video that went viral. It’s weird. I think, I think he, he went, he saw a video of Leo that went viral and he was like, okay, this is, this is cool. But I, this is not like his best work. He just picked a video that is better. Even if it’s less viral, you know,

Sevan Matossian (17:40):

It’s very well shot. Who do you have the same guy who does all of your drone work?

Alexis Landot (17:44):

It’s not always the same guy, but we have a team of people, um, that are PO passionate about what we do. And they film us with, uh, nice camera and drones and stuff like this. So it’s really cool.

Sevan Matossian (17:58):

Yeah. Some of that, um, footage, when you guys are wearing the GoPros and you look down, it it’s some of the most dramatic footage I’ve ever seen. When I look down, I want to throw up, you know what I mean? Even though I’m just looking at my phone, I, I feel a little woozy. Is that you up there?

Alexis Landot (18:13):

No, this is not me. This is the, this is the drone, you know? So it’s a funny thing, cuz usually the people that does drone shots are, they are not urban climbers per se, but they are uh, urban explorers, you know? Like they love urban, um, urban places like this. So, and this is funny because the tower you see behind the antenna, you know the one we saw, the one we see and yeah, this one. Yeah. This hour I climbed it <laugh> three times.

Sevan Matossian (18:47):

Wow. Um, why three times?

Alexis Landot (18:50):

Uh, the first time was the first time. Right? Uh, the second time was because my friend wanted to do it and I wanted to do it again because I wanted to use different technique, which his way less, not dangerous, but way less exposed and way better. And the third time we

Sevan Matossian (19:09):

Wait, wait, sorry, sorry. Sorry. Way less exposed. Meaning it was a, you chose a safer technique. You chose like

Alexis Landot (19:15):

A no less safe technique. The technique I, I felt like the technique I did before was like, almost like cheating, you know?

Sevan Matossian (19:24):

Can you tell me what the difference is? One was like this and maybe one was like this or

Alexis Landot (19:27):

So one was like this and my feet was like, ah, I can’t reassure <laugh> unless I show my feet. But one, my feet were like this Uhhuh, which is really safe because I was close to the, the thing, the, the

Sevan Matossian (19:39):

Glass. Okay.

Alexis Landot (19:40):

The glass. Yeah. And the other one, I really like, like Spiderman, you know, like <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (19:46):

Okay. And then the third time, and then the third time,

Alexis Landot (19:49):

The third time we climbed, uh, dressed, uh, as with um, a crane color. Uh, so the people saw us climbing, you know, uh, I was in, um, I was in yellow. Leo had the blue, uh, shirts and we just climbing off for a crane, like as a symbol, cuz this, this tower is, uh, really nice. It’s, it’s a tower that we can do one time, two times, three times. It’s it’s not a tower that we have much problem when climate they are. They understand when climate they’re nice. So

Sevan Matossian (20:22):

Yeah, they are.

Alexis Landot (20:24):

Yeah. People are nice. You know, like they understand it’s a sport achievement that’s so usually people are nice. Obviously, sometimes we have to go to like, uh, pav fines or go to court, stuff like this, but it’s it’s okay. You know?

Sevan Matossian (20:40):

Um, have you ever gone straight after a climb? You get to the roof and the police take you to jail and you actually go behind the bars.

Alexis Landot (20:47):

Oh yeah. Always.

Sevan Matossian (20:48):

Always. So they do take you to jail every time they

Alexis Landot (20:50):

Do take me in jail, they it’s the P but we usually don’t have, we, we usually don’t go to court after this, so

Sevan Matossian (20:57):

It’s okay. So it’s sort of just, they have to do it.

Alexis Landot (21:00):


Sevan Matossian (21:01):


Alexis Landot (21:01):

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cops are, are, are always really nice with me because they know I’m not a criminal. They just have to do their job until the, the court says, uh, are, are they gonna have a fine or are they just free? You know?

Sevan Matossian (21:19):

Ha ha have you ever climbed up, started a climb and, and abandoned it, get halfway up a building and then turn back?

Alexis Landot (21:25):

Uh, no, but I keep, but this is an option, you know, like once I’m like halfway, uh, it’s always harder to go down than to go up.

Sevan Matossian (21:35):

So that was my next question. Yeah.

Alexis Landot (21:37):

Yeah. So usually if I’m starting a climb, it’s makes more sense to just keep going. But if I’m like on the three first meters and I feel like something is wrong, I don’t know. I have a, I need to, to go to a toilet. I don’t know anything. I can go down. Yeah, I can.

Sevan Matossian (21:53):

There was, there was a, a post I was reading of yours or it was in an interview and maybe I’m saying it wrong, please. Correct me. But you were saying the blood is not the concern. If your fingers stop bleeding, start bleeding. No problem. You’ll keep climbing. It’s something you can work through. Yeah. But you were talking about if the joints get stiff. Yeah. That’s no good. If you start to lose mobility in your joints, can you explain that to me? How, why would you lose mobility in joints? It gets cold or it tired or why does that happen? So

Alexis Landot (22:22):

Basically like the it’s, it’s an effort, uh, of endurance. So it’s endurance in the muscle, but also, you know, in, in the joints, cuz it, you are really like, it’s really sharp, you know, it’s, it’s like this and you’re holding and it’s really sharp. So you have to, to have to, you need to have your joints prepared. Uh, so if I start bleeding, you know, um, it’s not gonna feel good, but I’m gonna fight until I go. I, uh, I go to the top, but if my joints starts to, I don’t know, break or something like this, then it can be dangerous.

Sevan Matossian (22:58):

Ju just because you can’t exert enough strength to hold on. I, I, I still don’t get it. Or you can’t or you can’t, where does the issue? Where is the issues? If the joints

Alexis Landot (23:05):

Here, if my joints, you know, it’s, uh, it’s like really sharp and it’s cutting like this. So at some point, yeah. If my joints feel, um, too, too destroy, it can be dangerous, but this is why I trained first. So this way I, I know like, uh, for example, yesterday I trained the climb. I did fifties ups and down, which is like, uh, almost twice the tower, uh, even more than twice the tower in term of movements.

Sevan Matossian (23:34):

And where do you do that? Where do you do that?

Alexis Landot (23:36):

Oh, I just go to where some skyscrapers are and I just go there and train when no one can see

Sevan Matossian (23:44):

Me. <laugh> so you go up one floor down, one floor up one floor down one floor. And you did that and you do that 50 times.

Alexis Landot (23:50):

Yeah, exactly. And at the, at the end I was reading, like my hands were destroyed.

Sevan Matossian (23:55):

<laugh> can, can I see your hands? Can you go like that? Yeah.

Alexis Landot (23:58):

I got my hands, uh, are actually really like, uh, they are not destroyed, uh, these days for some reason I have like

Sevan Matossian (24:07):

Big look at your knuckles compared to my knuckles. <laugh> wow. And even look at the tips of your fingers. They’re different. They’re wider. You have bulbous fingers, right?

Alexis Landot (24:17):

Oh yeah, this is, this is because of rock climbing. Uh, it makes the, the knuckles, uh, like wide <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (24:24):

Wow. And, and you’re about to lose a fingernail there on, on your ring finger?

Alexis Landot (24:29):

Um, there.

Sevan Matossian (24:31):


Alexis Landot (24:31):

Oh no, no. It’s uh, it’s the, so I wear strap, like, uh, bandage. It’s just, uh, some bed that is left from yesterday.

Sevan Matossian (24:40):

Oh, okay. What, how many buildings have you climbed?

Alexis Landot (24:48):

I’ve I climbed buildings probably around 15 times and I would say I climbed 10 buildings. Maybe I’m gonna, I’m gonna count. So NG. I also N G I N yeah. Around 10 buildings, I would say.

Sevan Matossian (25:10):

And yet in the next month you might do 20% more of that. You might do two in the next month.

Alexis Landot (25:15):


Sevan Matossian (25:16):

Will that be the fastest two you’ve ever done?

Alexis Landot (25:20):

Probably not. Cuz I, I remember climbing like total tower for the second time. Uh, like in, in the same month I climbed Mopar for the second time too. So yeah. It’s I, I try to climb basically like, uh, once a month, something like this

Sevan Matossian (25:39):

Ma’am and, and what, have you had anything happen on any of these as sense where you’re like, Hey, it’s time to quit. That was too close?

Alexis Landot (25:49):

Uh, no, because if, if I, at some point I’m thinking this, thinking this, it means I’m already dead. You know, somehow like, uh, I, I have to stay calm, whatever happens, but I don’t think I came close enough to, to, to the end. And at any point, because if I’m close enough, you know, there, it sucks. There’s no in between, you know, I’m either 100% good or dead, you know, on the ground. So there’s no really in between like, um, when I train for something, I know I can do it. And if everything goes as planned or if, if everything goes well, I’m on the top. If there’s a problem, I end up on the ground, you know.

Sevan Matossian (26:38):

Have you ever, have you ever got an injury from climbing?

Alexis Landot (26:42):

Uh, yeah. I always have injuries cuz uh, when people climb a lot, they always, uh, end up with their fingers destroyed and stuff like this,

Sevan Matossian (26:50):

But nothing but, but no broken bones, no broken land

Alexis Landot (26:54):

On no with what I do. You can have a lot of injuries because you climb, uh, too much. Like my joints, for example, uh, of my forms are a bit, um, sore stuff like this, but if I fall, I die. So there’s no really in between I either have like joints pain or I’m just not in the world anymore. But the, but the thing is that when I’m climbing, uh, like 99% of the time, I have a rope cuz I’m training and it’s this 1% of the time where I don’t have a rope, which is why I train for

Sevan Matossian (27:31):

Wait. So when you did those 50 ups and downs on the building, you have a rope on you.

Alexis Landot (27:35):

I don’t have a rope, but I’m just, I’m like two meters from the ground, you

Sevan Matossian (27:38):

Know? Okay. But you’re saying there’s other times you do have a rope.

Alexis Landot (27:42):

Yeah. When I’m training in a climbing gym, I have a rope.

Sevan Matossian (27:46):

And does that frustrate you? Do you wish you didn’t have rope?

Alexis Landot (27:50):

Uh, no. No, no. We, it’s not a frustration because I, I trust, uh, you know, it’s like I trust the process, you know? It’s like, um, it’s like, you know, a body builder that does reps, uh, when he is off season, he’s not frustrating because he’s not on stage, you know? Right. He, he has a vision, like he knows what’s gonna happen for him. And he knows he has to train hard. And also, uh, I love climbing like, you know, like it’s I do urban climbings as goals, but I love, I also have goals, you know, in climbing gym, you know, I’m like, oh, next week I’m gonna do this, uh, this time I’m gonna succeed. You know? But it’s like, I also have goals in, in the gym, in the climbing gym.

Sevan Matossian (28:32):

Um, have you, when I see people climbing, I haven’t seen a lot of urban climbing up close, but I’ve seen a bunch of, you know, documentaries on, on, you know, climbing nature, rocks, all the Alex, hon stuff, all that stuff. And there’s, there’s places where you see where the guys have to make some, I don’t know what you call them. I don’t wanna say they have to jump or they have to go outside of their boundary of where they can grip or they have to do some sort of small explosive movement in the transition. And in the climbing that I’ve seen you do there, it doesn’t seem like there is a lot of that. It seems like it’s just really go ahead.

Alexis Landot (29:05):

Oh no. Uh, so yeah. Um, I feel like, uh, sometimes in climbing there let’s divide climbing in two types of movements, please. There are the static where you move and you don’t use, um, your, um, Inia in, in French, it’s INI like your own body moving. You’re not using your own body moving. You’re just climbing, just coming.

Sevan Matossian (29:30):

Yeah. No momentum,

Alexis Landot (29:32):

New momentum. Exactly. And there’s the dynamics movement for you use momentum and usually in climbing, you don’t always use momentum and uh, you, every in, especially in what we do and when people do free solos, it’s always, first of all, it’s almost always down their maximum grade. So they know like they’re training, like pretty safely and also, uh, it’s it’s, it’s, it’s uh, rare. That’s there.

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