#384 – Dillon Vowell

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Mattew Ouza (00:00):

Which sucks you so respons,

Sevan Matossian (00:04):

Where are you?

Mattew Ouza (00:06):

I’m in Temecula. This lighting’s terrible. Oh, that’s worse.

Sevan Matossian (00:22):


Mattew Ouza (00:22):

So, but not having all the controls.

Sevan Matossian (00:24):

I’m multitasking. I was asking my gardener, how come one of the lawns is like so massive at my house. And he said, uh, they didn’t mow it. Cuz it was raining. I wasn’t in town. So I didn’t know it was raining. Wow. This guy left is gnarly.

Mattew Ouza (00:44):

Yeah. Stuff is crazy.

Sevan Matossian (00:47):

Crazy. I’m gonna show oh. Oh, okay. Here I’m I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll I’ll peruse his Instagram while we, uh, wait for him. What are you doing right now? You’re going to a wedding.

Mattew Ouza (00:59):

No, we’re going to like the brunch afterwards. I’m just kind of hanging out for a minute until the ladies are ready.

Sevan Matossian (01:06):

All right. You can ditch me whenever. Okay. So this guy, this guy is what they call an urban climber. Austin, Martin, Ryan. What’s up guys? Urban climber seven on a view. Do you have a halfpipe in your backyard? Dad cor yeah, I do. I don’t ride it though. I walk around on it. I use a leafblower on it. <laugh> uh, Alexis, Lando from France is coming on, uh, any minute now. So he says we rescheduled this three times. Um, and I am pretty pumped. I, I wonder how many of these guys there are in the world. He’s only been doing it two years too.

Mattew Ouza (01:45):

That’s crazy. I want, does he get arrested every time?

Sevan Matossian (01:49):

Um, I was reading an interview. He did. And it sounds like the police are pretty cool with him. I, I was having trouble. It was, uh, there’s an interview with him on a medium, you know, that platform?

Mattew Ouza (02:00):


Sevan Matossian (02:01):

And it’s just, it’s like some self-publishing, uh, platform. And so, um, it’s a self publishing platform and uh, it, it looks like they translated the interview with him from Fran, France, France to GL. And uh, so some of the words I wasn’t sure, but I think what it sounds like is that you could get a fine up to one year or 15,000 euros, but it sounds like everyone’s really, really cool with him. And the reason why he says is because he’s not endangering other people, he’s only endangering himself, but dude, if he fell from there,

Mattew Ouza (02:33):

That’s what I was gonna make. The argument that if he falls off and hits somebody <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (02:38):

They’re toast.

Mattew Ouza (02:39):

Yeah. <laugh> but I imagine, I would imagine that once he starts to climb, there’s probably a crowd of people that like are watching him. I mean, how often do you walk by a building and look up and just see two dudes climbing the side of it?

Sevan Matossian (02:53):

It’s it’s uh, funny you say that. Um, I, I didn’t, I had no idea about this until about an hour ago. I was reading another article about ’em and you’re right. There are people who wa you know, we saw in these videos that you and I were looking at one time together. There’s people from the inside of the building, for sure. Looking at ’em <laugh> like, so there’s people like in the office building and then they see the dude show up, but it says he went to Ukraine on March 7th and the war there started on February 24th. So he went to the Ukraine on March 7th after the war started. And he climbed a building there that was 700 feet tall. And, uh, 200 people came out to watch him.

Mattew Ouza (03:26):

That’s crazy.

Sevan Matossian (03:28):

Uh, don’t stand there just in case

Mattew Ouza (03:31):

<laugh> please give a little,

Sevan Matossian (03:33):

You imagine that, that sounds so painful to die from another dude, fucking hitting you.

Mattew Ouza (03:39):

There’s zero mistakes,

Sevan Matossian (03:42):


Mattew Ouza (03:42):

Like you don’t, you don’t kind of slip. And how do you, what happens if you slip, you, catch yourself on what

Sevan Matossian (03:48):

He says? The reason he does this is because, um, it’s his way of taking control of his life. And then I, and then I read, I read a little deeper and uh, I read a little deeper and it says that he’s so he has this fear of his loved ones dying. So it’s this kind of fear that he lives with. He always is afraid like his mom or sister or his dad’s gonna die, like in a car accident or something. So he does this stuff, uh, to sort of feel like he’s in control of his life. But I mean, you know, this has gotta scare the shit out of his parents.

Mattew Ouza (04:20):

Dude, it scare is me. My palms are sweaty right now. Just watching on the small screen. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (04:25):

Susan’s retrieving avocados from sevens backyard. Yeah. And that’s the shirt I make him wear, but he is wearing no pants and underwear. So me and my wife are go in the backyard and sit margaritas and just watch, uh, climb naked.

Mattew Ouza (04:43):

I knew there’s gonna be some comments about the polo for sure.

Sevan Matossian (04:46):

Well, it’s just so it’s, it’s, it’s just so rare to see you in it. So it’s like, it’s like almost like a costume, you know what I mean? It’s like, it’s like my beard.

Mattew Ouza (04:54):

I was thinking about doing a, a soup for the Alex Stein later today. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (04:58):

Oh yeah. That would be awesome. If I had to die from a dude falling on me, I’d want it to be the CEO. You’re good, dude. You’re a good dude. I’d want you to be, I’d want you to be laying on your stomach and I fall directly on you with the hard on bam. Just slipping into you like a puzzle.

Mattew Ouza (05:15):


Sevan Matossian (05:15):

Not exactly what you wanted Martin, but since you opened the door, Uh, Matt in his Sundays looking cute as fuck. I agree. You know, I you’re. You were at a wedding last night.

Mattew Ouza (05:27):


Sevan Matossian (05:28):

Cool. I missed you on the life calling show

Mattew Ouza (05:30):

Fancy one. I know. Great. I wanna be on it. I peeked in real quick, cause I always do to make sure that they’re like going off. I don’t, you know, I don’t know as if I could do anything, but was that Gary Roberts on it?

Sevan Matossian (05:41):


Mattew Ouza (05:42):

That’s awesome. <affirmative>

Sevan Matossian (05:44):

Yeah. How about that? I sent them a link and you just called in.

Mattew Ouza (05:47):

That’s really cool. That’s cool.

Sevan Matossian (05:50):

Yeah. When I wa when I see those shots, what from the GoPros? I don’t know why, but I have trouble like separating from the footage at that point. And I start to feel a little queasy like that shot.

Mattew Ouza (06:02):

Yeah. Yeah. It’s funny. Cause I bought this drone a while back, you know, to like get some video shots and like, I’m thinking, you said he’s climbed a building that was 700 feet in Ukraine. And I’m thinking about just when I fly my drones, like 200 feet, my hands get sweated. I’m like, oh, we gotta break it back down. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (06:19):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mattew Ouza (06:20):

It’s spiraling outta control. Oh, he’s yo too.

Sevan Matossian (06:24):

Yeah. He had some, uh, he, he was saying some interesting stuff too, that you can climb with. Uh, oh, it looks like he did some ninja challenge. Shit. He’s basically saying you can climb with bloody fingers, but you can’t climb once your fingers start to lose mobility.

Mattew Ouza (06:41):


Sevan Matossian (06:41):

Because then, then shit gets dangerous. And I kind, I, I understand that, right? Like if your knuckles start to get stiff and whatnot, but isn’t blood really slippery. Like you hear about that in the UFC,

Mattew Ouza (06:50):

For sure. I didn’t realize how those windows and stuff went in because if you watch him climbing, I mean, obviously he has to pick his buildings. So that’d be an interesting question. Like how does he pick the building? But I imagine like, if you look inside he’s he’s like sliding his hand, like in between the crevice of the buildings and the windows and stuff.

Sevan Matossian (07:10):

It that, and that’s how rock climbers do it though, too. Right?

Mattew Ouza (07:13):

Yeah. And the crevices.

Sevan Matossian (07:15):


Mattew Ouza (07:16):

Did you watch that movie free solo? Sorry, go ahead.

Sevan Matossian (07:19):

No, I think I did. That’s the hon movie.

Mattew Ouza (07:21):


Sevan Matossian (07:22):

Yeah, yeah. I did see that. I think I saw that in the theater with Dave,

Sevan Matossian (07:29):

Dave and I, when Dave and I hang out in person, we don’t talk. It’s so weird. But when we’re on the phone, when we’re on the phone, we talk like fucking two little fucking 12 year old girls. Even when I go to his house, like I could go to his house, like once every four months for like, you know, four or five hours, my kids will be swimming in this pool and we won’t talk <laugh> I, I told I, when I saw him in Colorado, I was like, Hey dude, even if we’re sitting next to each other, we should just talk through the phone. And he actually is like, yeah, probably we would talk more.

Mattew Ouza (07:54):

That’s funny. I, I just kind of like zoned out from minute thinking about you and Dave walking into a movie together. That seems scene to me.

Sevan Matossian (08:04):

I, I never know if I’m with one of those dudes who needs to put a seat in between, uh, the, the other dude

Mattew Ouza (08:11):


Sevan Matossian (08:12):

Uh, so this guy looks like, it says, um, oh, it’s in, this is in frost. So I can’t read it, but I’m guessing that dude and all the colored shit. Um, that’s like the OG, there’s a guy. He, he looks up to name, name, Adam. What was that guy’s name? Let’s see if I can. There’s some guy in France. Who’s oh, a uh, Alan Roberts. You spell a, a L a I N I’m and then he’s considered the French Spiderman. I’m guessing that’s him.

Mattew Ouza (08:43):


Sevan Matossian (08:43):

Look at that. Dude’s fingers. Oh, they’re all taped up.

Mattew Ouza (08:48):

Oh yeah.

Sevan Matossian (08:50):

I think that picture we saw him when you guys are saying he’s huge. I think he’s, I think he’s really lean. And I think that was him just blown up to all get out and, and I think he comes from parkour roots. I mean, he’s a fucking supermodel, good looking kid.

Mattew Ouza (09:06):

Um, how do you get into urban climbing this one day? Like, ah, I climbed up, you know, two story building. Well,

Sevan Matossian (09:16):

Like I,

Mattew Ouza (09:16):

This 30 next,

Sevan Matossian (09:18):

Like I was saying in the beginning, um, I, the whole thing is, is he was saying he wants to take control of his life. And the reason why he wants to take control of his life is that he feels like people that are close to him could die. Like loved ones can die. All right. I, I bet you, this is gonna be a live calling show back to back. Last night show was last night show was pretty wild.

Mattew Ouza (09:36):

Do you have a good time?

Sevan Matossian (09:37):

I did have a good time.

Mattew Ouza (09:39):


Sevan Matossian (09:39):

Good. I did have a good time. Caleb was acting a little weird at a good time. Oh, we already, we already have. Wow. We, we already got a monetization limit on the show. I didn’t say any of the words. I didn’t say the B word or the, a word or the N-word or the R word or the C word or the, I didn’t say any of those words.

Mattew Ouza (09:58):

None of the alphabet letters,

Sevan Matossian (10:00):

But this show’s already been flagged crazy. Yeah. Last night show. Last night show already has, uh, 2600 2700 views on YouTube. That’s someone’s gonna go over a hundred thousand on apple. Wow, dude, the Hiller show’s exploding.

Mattew Ouza (10:16):

Yeah. People wanted that one. People wanted that one. We have to bring him back.

Sevan Matossian (10:23):

There was a point in the show where, um, uh, I, Hillary was saying that, um, uh, who we were talking about, um, uh, David hips steel, and he was saying that David hips steel could get a pass or that someone could get a pass. And I made this joke that, um, uh, I, I, I made a joke that it was, uh, he’s not even a minority and, and someone and, and someone flagged it in the YouTube comments, like something was wrong with it. And then I, I don’t know if it was will or you or Caleb. Someone said, it’s just a joke. And then they said, oh, interesting joke. And then I came on. I said, well, it’s not a joke, but it is a joke, but it’s a joke that falls under satire.

Mattew Ouza (10:58):


Sevan Matossian (10:59):

And it’s just so weird that people don’t get that.

Mattew Ouza (11:02):

Yeah. I don’t understand. I don’t understand what they wanna do with that. Like what are they, they gonna point it out and be like, Hey, everybody, come over here and be upset at this.

Sevan Matossian (11:09):

Yeah. Is it racist? Yeah. It’s racist. It’s not me being racist. It’s satire. I’m making fun of the people who are racist and who are those people? Those people with the leftist ideology that think it’s okay to be racist in order under the guise of being benevolent. It’s it’s not

Mattew Ouza (11:22):

Sometimes the weird thing too about sat satire with like a Babylon B and stuff. And sometimes it comes true, like months later.

Sevan Matossian (11:28):

<laugh> yeah.

Mattew Ouza (11:28):

Yeah. They’ll put something ridiculous.

Sevan Matossian (11:30):

And then

Mattew Ouza (11:31):

Like three months later, it’s

Sevan Matossian (11:32):

I guess it, it it’s sat. I wonder if a component of satire is irony. Maybe I don’t even know what word I’m using. Should I look up the word satire? Are you getting nervous? Cuz you have to go and leave me. Don’t be, don’t be, I’ll be fine.

Mattew Ouza (11:42):

No, they’ll they’ll yell at me. Oh

Sevan Matossian (11:43):

Yeah. That it is what satire is. I, so I had it right. The use of humor and irony and exaggeration are ridicule to expose or criticize people’s stupidity. I should make some and, and that person didn’t fall for it. So does that mean that person’s stupid? That person didn’t understand it.

Mattew Ouza (11:59):

Yeah. Maybe they misread it. Given the benefit of the doubt,

Sevan Matossian (12:03):

Man. Oh man. Yeah. Kayla see here. Uh, and by Caleb acting weird. So I means Caleb was speaking. Yeah, correct. That’s right.

Mattew Ouza (12:14):

That’s right.

Sevan Matossian (12:15):

Well, what’s weird. Is, is that Ken, Ken Walters noticed it like, uh, 10 minutes into the conversation, like, Hey, something’s different. Something is different. Did you guys sit back in the back row of the theater? I don’t remember. I don’t remember where Dave and I sat.

Mattew Ouza (12:32):

I always think about like, is there people that, that do CrossFit like have done CrossFit for a while that like you guys come in and um, and someone’s like, holy crap. It’s David Seton. And they’re like in the movie theater theater, you guys go to lunch and like lunch outings that you went with Greg and everybody’s like, oh crap.

Sevan Matossian (12:49):

I, I, I will say this, um, this, this weekend in Colorado, normally my, my whole career here, CrossFit, basically, if I’m with Dave and Greg, people will ask for pictures and I’ll never be in the pictures, but I mean, never, I mean 99.9, 9% of the time. And if I am in the picture, it’s an afterthought. And I think the people just feel sorry for me, but that’s maybe just my insecurity. <laugh> so I’m always the one who takes the picture. Right. So we’ll be together. And someone, the person will be like, Hey step, can you take a picture of Greg and I, and they hand me the phone, you know what I mean? Just a stranger. Yeah. And I’m, and I’m, I’m more than happy with that to do that. I mean, that’s my job,

Mattew Ouza (13:20):

You know, what’s funny is I thought about what, like, if we end up doing one of these sanctions or the games or something like that and, and you’re, and you’re there and you know, let’s just say there’s other, other characters there such as Dave or Greg or something. I would just opt out immediately. As I see somebody come with a camera, be like, Hey, Hey guys, I’ll take that photo for you. Why don’t you get in there? Yes. It’s like, I, I just headed it off. It’s like, no, they probably wanted me in the photo, but I had to take it, you know, just,

Sevan Matossian (13:44):

And, and I, and I, and I did that and I do, I did that a lot. So if someone came up, I would also do that too. Like if I knew they wanted a picture, I would just take the camera from them or, or the phone. Yeah. But, but this weekend in Colorado, I took a lot of pictures. Podcast is I guess, I guess people want to a picture with the guy who does the podcast.

Mattew Ouza (14:02):

Oh. Like people, people ask, put a lot of pictures with you.

Sevan Matossian (14:05):

Lot of pictures. Yeah. Oh,

Mattew Ouza (14:07):

And you, I thought you meant, like you bought a photo album together for me to view afterwards of your trip. No,

Sevan Matossian (14:11):


Mattew Ouza (14:12):

<laugh> okay.

Sevan Matossian (14:13):

I re I always realize when I’m around, CrossFiters how little I am. Like when I’m working a, out in my own, um, uh, garage, I’m like, damn, I’m looking buffing shit. And then I go to these events and like, everyone’s more buff than me. Like all the girls, the dudes to kids. Everyone’s buffed.

Mattew Ouza (14:30):

That’s right.

Sevan Matossian (14:33):

Uh, I don’t think he’s coming on.

Mattew Ouza (14:35):

Yeah. We’re 14. In what disappointed did you check the WhatsApp? He was always super responsive.

Sevan Matossian (14:42):

I did not. I did not.

Mattew Ouza (14:44):

I’ll check. Did he make sure this?

Sevan Matossian (14:46):

Uh, no. Yeah, no. Maybe he died. Maybe he fell off a, maybe he fell off a building.

Mattew Ouza (14:51):

All right. Well, I’ve been summon now, too.

Sevan Matossian (14:53):

Okay. Bye.

Mattew Ouza (14:55):

All right. I will see you later. I’ll be accurate.

Sevan Matossian (14:57):

Okay. Bye bye.

Sevan Matossian (15:01):

For crying out comment. The comment friends, always the comment friends always deliver hilarious. The comment, friends, the comment friends. Oh, just the comments in the friends. Don, what are you doing right now? Should I send you a link? You’re gonna come in. You’re gonna, um, you’re gonna, uh, pinch hit. I know we’re supposed to have you on the show. Okay. I’m sending you a link. Don’t oh shit. I just saw your shirt. I just saw your shirt. Driveway, dumpster and paper street. Coffee. You have the shirt and I’m an island boy. Nice. Holy shit. Holy shit. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. All right. What’s cool. Is I’m always prepared. I have nude photos of your mom. I’m about to pull up. Who am I talking to? You’re about to see. Mm, okay. You guys ready? I was gonna start with my next, uh, I was gonna start my next, uh, live calling show with this, but I guess we’re doing a live calling show. So let’s go to share the screen. This is normally much smoother, cuz I have someone helping me. Okay. You guys ready? And here we, we go, oh no we don’t. I

Speaker 5 (16:31):

Trees. I done something new for this fight. I done wrestle with a alligator. That’s right. I have wrestling with a alligator out Jesus with a well out done. Handcuff, lightning throw jail. That’s bad. Only last week. I’m murder. Rock Angela Stone hospitalize. A brick. I’m so mean. I make medicine sick fast, fast,

Sevan Matossian (16:59):

Fast. Tell me someone in the comments. Can you hear Ali talk switch

Speaker 5 (17:02):

Was in the bed before the room was gone. I

Sevan Matossian (17:03):

Can hear him in my head.

Speaker 5 (17:05):

Fast. You George, full all you jumps are going about when I whoop him. All of you. I know you got him. I know you got him picked, but the man’s in trouble. I’m gonna show you how great I’m been chopping trees. I’ve done

Sevan Matossian (17:18):

Something now. Me. Yes, Alyssa. Yeah. You can hear the hell. Isn’t it crazy how different this is?

Speaker 5 (17:23):

I have Ralph

Sevan Matossian (17:24):

Talking versus today’s shit talking. It’s so different. I does anyone know if OIE prepared this shit? Did he prepare this? Like did he know he was gonna say all this or is this just

Speaker 5 (17:38):

I’m so mean? I make medicine shit fast, fast, fast. Last night I cut the light off. My bedroom hit. The switch was in the, for the room was dog.

Sevan Matossian (17:51):

He’s so fast. My goodness. My goodness. I’m glad you guys could hear that shit. Talking’s come a long way. Huh? A long way. Not talking about no one’s mama. Not talking about. I, I, I wonder if I wonder if this was, I wonder if this was a, I wonder if that was a, I wonder if that was offensive back then. Yo,

Dillon Vowell (18:14):

What’s going on man.

Sevan Matossian (18:16):

To save the show. Dylan vowel.

Dillon Vowell (18:19):

Hey man. I’m happy to be here.

Sevan Matossian (18:21):

We don’t need no fucking rock climber building climber.

Dillon Vowell (18:24):

Hey, I’m a rock climber.

Sevan Matossian (18:26):

All right. I know. I see that thing hanging in the back there is that some rock climbing stuff? Yeah.

Dillon Vowell (18:30):

Nah. I’m actually at a friend’s house right now.

Sevan Matossian (18:32):

Is that a lamp

Dillon Vowell (18:36):

Chandelier? Something like that?

Sevan Matossian (18:38):

Yeah. It looks low.

Dillon Vowell (18:40):

Yeah. Well it was over a table. So you can walk face first into it.

Sevan Matossian (18:44):

Hey, um, what day were you supposed to come on? I know you’re supposed to come on. Cause you have a fight on May 6th. What day were you supposed to come on?

Dillon Vowell (18:51):

I was supposed to come on, um, Friday and then it got moved to Monday. Um,

Sevan Matossian (18:58):

Monday, meaning tomorrow?

Dillon Vowell (18:59):


Sevan Matossian (19:00):

All right. Well bitching now it got moved to now. How are you? How’s your time right now. You good?

Dillon Vowell (19:04):

It’s great, man. Yeah, I’m good. And,

Sevan Matossian (19:05):

And, and you have some like 1980s headphones on

Dillon Vowell (19:08):

<laugh>. Yeah, they’re just, they’re good for work.

Sevan Matossian (19:11):

Uh, what’s the cord that’s like coming down. That’s

Dillon Vowell (19:14):

Another he phone.

Sevan Matossian (19:17):

Ah, gotcha, gotcha. Gotcha. Uh, Dylan, how old are you?

Dillon Vowell (19:20):

I’m 27

Sevan Matossian (19:22):

And, and you’re getting, and, and you’re in the fight game.

Dillon Vowell (19:24):

I’m in the fight game. Some would say

Sevan Matossian (19:26):

It’s crazy. You know, you have a, you have such a strong, um, intellect, uh, as well. Do you know that? Like you’re a great writer. You say good things. You’re insightful.

Dillon Vowell (19:36):

Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (19:37):

And you’re gonna let some, and you’re gonna let someone punch that brain ears.

Dillon Vowell (19:41):

Well, the goal is to not get hit, but <laugh>, I guess inevitably it’ll happen.

Sevan Matossian (19:46):

Um, you’ve had one amateur fight,

Dillon Vowell (19:48):


Sevan Matossian (19:49):

And, uh, how’d that go? What happened?

Dillon Vowell (19:51):

It was good. Um, it, it was, uh, everything that I wanted out of it. I mean,

Dillon Vowell (19:59):

I lost, um, mm-hmm, <affirmative> in a split decision, but man, like I didn’t, uh, I lost in the, in the, in the terms of who got their hand raised, but I won for, for, for the goals that I wanted to get out of it. And that was just being able to go through eight weeks of camp and fricking hardship man and, um, uh, just tough, tough grueling exercises and, and, and MI work and sparring and all that. And, and then to develop a strategy and practice that strategy and execute under extreme pressure. I did. And unfortunately it wasn’t enough to come away with the, with getting the hand raised, but I still won. Cause I was able to execute our game plan.

Sevan Matossian (20:48):

You were, You were, you were able to, you were, you were able to execute, you were able to execute.

Dillon Vowell (20:58):

I was, yes.

Sevan Matossian (20:59):

And, and then, and then, so then why didn’t you win?

Dillon Vowell (21:02):

Uh, because I would say I wasn’t active enough. Um, I was active with forward pressure at active in the wrestling active, um, with the wall wrestling, all that was, was good and that was all part of the game plan, but he was a phenomenal striker. So he had more volume of strikes. It was similar to the Darion weeks fight actually.

Sevan Matossian (21:24):

Yeah. Um, yeah. Wow.

Dillon Vowell (21:27):

Which, when you, when you go up with a, uh, a striker, who’s gonna

Sevan Matossian (21:33):

Really say is the guy you fight? Is it, is it this guy? Eli Wilson. I’m looking at here. Yes. Okay. Okay. And did he have a karate stance?

Dillon Vowell (21:41):

Yeah. Yeah. So he comes from upstate karate, which is Steven Wonderboy. Thompson’s uh, Jim Ray Thompson,

Sevan Matossian (21:48):

You know? Oh, shit interest. Okay. It

Dillon Vowell (21:51):

Was like a celebrity appearance, so rushed really on, right. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (21:54):

Wow. Yes, yes.

Dillon Vowell (21:56):

That kid was incredible. And his brothers fighter as well. Um, they’re great. And uh, but he, yeah, he, he outdid me in footwork and outdid me in striking, but, uh, we weren’t gonna get into a footwork battle with somebody who’s got great footwork. You know, it was not enough time for, for my novice, you know, to, to catch up in that realm. So we focused on really pushing the pressure, getting him up against the fence. We knew we were gonna win in the, in the wrestling. Um, but to the judge’s eyes, man, when you’re throwing out a lot of strikes landing or not, or they’re just seeing that they’re beating you to the punch.

Sevan Matossian (22:30):

Yeah. It, it went, it went the distance.

Dillon Vowell (22:33):

It did.

Sevan Matossian (22:36):

Okay. So that’s another reason why you feel good.

Dillon Vowell (22:39):

Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Plenty of, uh, uh, time to learn in there. Um, you go in there and get knocked out or have a quick knockout for your first fight. That’s not the best because you want to see what you’re made of right.

Sevan Matossian (22:51):

Uhhuh <affirmative>.

Dillon Vowell (22:52):

So, um, and man, third round grew ruling, you know, that’s what I wanted. I wanted like, let’s push the pace. Let’s try anyway. You know, let’s, let’s dig down deep. And all I heard, uh, with a minute left, uh, was from my coach when I had him up against the wall. My coach, uh, in my corner just screamed out as loud as he possibly could. We need to take down. And we worked on this particular take down off the wall a ton of times in training. And so I went down for the high crotch, hoisted him over my head and slammed him on the mat and ended it with a little bit of ground and pound. So

Sevan Matossian (23:30):

That’s how the bell, the bell rang at the end of the third round with you on top of him. Yeah. Oh, that’s good dude.

Dillon Vowell (23:35):

And the first round.

Sevan Matossian (23:36):

Oh, that’s good. Yeah. So, so if you would’ve won, would you have been surprised or no? Could have gone. It was that close. I haven’t seen the fight. I just tried to pull it up. I can’t find it. No,

Dillon Vowell (23:45):

I thought I, I thought I had done enough with that final takedown.

Sevan Matossian (23:50):

Is it on YouTube?

Dillon Vowell (23:51):

It is,

Sevan Matossian (23:52):

Yes. Okay. So you thought you won?

Dillon Vowell (23:54):

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. With that final takedown ending in ground and pound and top position, like I knew it was one, one going into third round. My coach was honest with me in that sense of I OK. Him in the second round, pretty bad. Um, but then he kicked me in the old, uh,

Sevan Matossian (24:10):

He did Cockins yeah.

Dillon Vowell (24:12):

Old cock malls and, and that one, that’s a weird one because it doesn’t hurt like a normal nut shot. Like it just zaps you you’re you’re, you’re just, you have nothing left instantly. It’s a weird feeling.

Sevan Matossian (24:24):

Is it that LFA 27?

Dillon Vowell (24:26):

No, that’s that’s his brother. His brother fights for the LFA. Um, okay. You’re gonna wanna go to, um, I, I, you could probably type in my name YouTube and, and it’ll pop up.

Sevan Matossian (24:36):

I thought, I thought I did type D I L is it one L or two LS?

Dillon Vowell (24:40):

Two LS.

Sevan Matossian (24:40):

D I L D I L L O yeah. Vowel.

Dillon Vowell (24:44):


Sevan Matossian (24:45):

Eli Wilson. Yes. Yeah, I don’t fucking get it. Am I spelling vowel wrong? Oh, air’s fight series two. Eli Wilson versus Dylan vowel. Yes. Oh, there you go. Surprise. Surprise. Oh shit. You guys really did go the distance. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Okay. Before I put this on, I want, I have some questions. I don’t wanna forget. Um, how long have you been CrossFiting?

Dillon Vowell (25:08):

Um, I think I started back in, I think tech probably technically my first workout was fight, gone bad, I believe. Um, and that was in the military. Um, and that was probably 2014.

Sevan Matossian (25:25):

Okay. So you’ve been CrossFiting for a while. When you talk about that third round, for those of us who’ve never been in that situation, is, is there anything, um, tantamount to that in CrossFit where you’re like, oh shit, I gotta dig. Or is it never like that? Because there’s, there’s no one there to punch you in the face.

Dillon Vowell (25:42):

I would, I would say through the CrossFit competitions that I’ve done. Yes. It’s, it’s similar. Um, I, I don’t know. I, I think it would just be how you contend with yourself and like your, your, your notion to quit. You know, I, I think how, how much of a hold do you have on that? And in the gym, it’s really easy to succumb to that, right? Like, um, with a barbell and, and, you know, I can set it down or I can walk around the other side of the barbell to catch another breath and like, yeah. Is a bit of urgency that makes it different, um, out, like with they’re still coming <laugh>, you know, they’re still trying to hurt you. So there’s no real time to like, drop your hands or, or, or, or step off the gas pedal. Um, and I felt that in competitions, um,

Sevan Matossian (26:29):

Um, how was your conditioning for this?

Dillon Vowell (26:32):

It was great. We

Sevan Matossian (26:32):

Happy. It was,

Dillon Vowell (26:34):

Yeah. Yeah, it was great, man. Um, my coach did a lot of, uh, good stuff with me to, to make sure we were ready for a three round war.

Sevan Matossian (26:42):

Um, and this is, and this is coming towards the, this is with, uh, 58 seconds left in the fight. Yes. And that’s you, that’s you pressing him against the fence right there?

Dillon Vowell (26:51):


Sevan Matossian (26:53):

And what weight class is this?

Dillon Vowell (26:54):

This is one 70.

Sevan Matossian (26:56):

Damn. And what do you walk around at?

Dillon Vowell (26:58):

Uh, before the, uh, when I stepped into, when I started camp, I was about 200 pounds.

Sevan Matossian (27:02):

Oh shit. Oh, you handled them. Wow. Does he come up easy or is that hard? What you just did?

Dillon Vowell (27:10):

It was, it was so hard <laugh> it was like, my legs were full of blood, you know, lactic acid, all that. And like, you just, you feel like you don’t have it in you, but I just, I, I knew I had it in me somewhere, so I was like, I’m getting you off the fence, motherfucker. I don’t give a shit. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (27:24):

Yeah. It’s so crazy. Does he make a noise? Is he surprised when he goes up in the air?

Dillon Vowell (27:30):

I would imagine he was surprised. Uh, but he didn’t make a noise. I actually almost knocked myself out on his hip when we landed. I didn’t, I didn’t, uh, I didn’t change, uh, in the air to a better position. Um,

Sevan Matossian (27:43):

And oh, so you finished strong, dude. Holy you finished strong. Uh, let’s see, let’s see where you almost knock. Let’s see where you almost fucking ding yourself here.

Dillon Vowell (27:54):

It was right in the beginning of the second round.

Sevan Matossian (27:56):

Oh, right in

Dillon Vowell (27:57):

The, oh, oh, you’re talking about me when I landed.

Sevan Matossian (28:00):


Dillon Vowell (28:01):

See, yeah. You can’t really tell it. Cause my head was buried in his hip and his hip bone just hit my temple so hard that I just all flash a light

Sevan Matossian (28:09):

Dude. Look at him. I mean, you pull him up so easy. So that’s hard as shit.

Dillon Vowell (28:15):

Yeah. Well, um, no, relatively. Yeah. To that in that time in the fight. Yes. It was very difficult if you’re doing it in practice or you do it fresh, like it’s, it’s not that difficult with right mechanics.

Sevan Matossian (28:28):

Right. And he is, um, um, I mean, I mean, not all the way up to his midline, but you got quite a bit of his body over you already. Yeah. When you left and you dig. Oh man. Okay. So you think so. No wonder now it all kind of makes sense while you feel so good about the fight you finished on top, you thought probably you won two of the rounds and it’s just an amateur debut. I shouldn’t just, I mean, it’s huge for you and for anyone, you know, a lot of people never do that, but if that was a, your, a professional fight, you’d be like, what the fuck? Cuz it’s there forever. It’s like it’s on your permanent, uh, high school record.

Dillon Vowell (29:06):

<laugh> yeah. You’d probably be like, what the fuck? Because you get half your purse <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (29:10):

Oh, you do. You only get half your purse too. Oh,

Dillon Vowell (29:13):

Typically. Yeah. With professional fights, you know, the loser gets half. Um, which sucks, but I guess it kind of there to win, right. <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (29:22):

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Um, how old is that kid?

Dillon Vowell (29:26):

I think he’s 26. He’s around my age, 26 or 27.

Sevan Matossian (29:31):

And uh, do you know how many fights he had had

Dillon Vowell (29:33):

He had no, no, no fights, no, uh, MMA fights. He was a, he was a, uh, uh, he was a, uh, I think just doing Kickbox in his entire life because of his family and the gym. He was a part of.

Sevan Matossian (29:47):

Okay. So that was a fair fight. That was a good fight for both you two high level fit dudes, but who had never had a fight?

Dillon Vowell (29:53):


Sevan Matossian (29:54):

And then, and then who

Dillon Vowell (29:55):

Were, he was definitely way more versed in the, in the fight game than I was. I, I just had a little bit of wrestling to.

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