#376 – CrossFit Does What With Semifinals???

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam we’re live. Hey, Brian, Caleb. Thanks Caleb. For jumping on running the back end. This, uh, this for this late emergency show. Breaking news, breaking, breaking. So guys, we covered

Brian Friend (00:16):

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Sevan Matossian (00:19):

Who me are you? Oh, you got your shirt. That’s awesome. This is the company that originally made the shirts that just vanished. I don’t even think we got our money from these guys

Brian Friend (00:27):

And now we have this, uh ASRX. They seem to have some high quality stuff.

Sevan Matossian (00:33):

Yeah. Yeah. They got their shit together. That’s awesome. I’m glad you got your shirts. This they deliver slower than, um, good dude’s coffee. So that’s why you should swing to paper street coffee.

Brian Friend (00:44):

Who? I also got some stuff from.

Sevan Matossian (00:46):

Oh, that’s awesome. Yeah, Gabe’s a great dude. Great coffee. Strong as shit. Strong as shit. If you’re you’re

Brian Friend (00:52):

Strong for me, I’m, I’m, I’m kind of weak, but I’m, I’ll try to adapt.

Sevan Matossian (00:55):

Yeah. Did you water it down a little bit?

Brian Friend (00:59):

Uh, no, I have, uh, just been, I just, I Don drink. I actually don’t drink like hot coffee that often I have cold coffee more regularly. So, uh, I’ve only had it one time so far.

Sevan Matossian (01:10):

I went through a cold coffee phase.

Brian Friend (01:12):

I just do the strong coffee with whole milk.

Sevan Matossian (01:15):

Yes. Oh, why not? Why not? Uh, heavy cream.

Brian Friend (01:18):

I don’t know. I just like the whole milk.

Sevan Matossian (01:20):

I think it’s cuz you’re cheap fr I mean frugal,

Brian Friend (01:24):

Not it’s I don’t, I don’t. That’s just what I like. I don’t know

Sevan Matossian (01:29):

Pat McCaffey who the hell is that? And you should not miss any show that I’m doing guys. Good morning. Kath Corey, our, our Arwin Martins. Uh, Michael Burchfield. Good morning guys. I wanna tell you, we did this show. The show I did with Brian, uh, regarding the semi-finals I got off and I felt dirty is too strong, but I felt like we were nitpicking and I felt like we were not Brian, but myself specifically was throwing rocks that were unnecessary. I wanted to see the dust settle more and I thought we were jumping the gun. I thought I was jumping the gun and doing the show. And someone even said that in the comments that, Hey, um, this is just a fucking bitch session. And I actually agreed with that. But as time passes, I realize that there are so many moving. There are so many moving pieces that I don’t realize. And people who are being affected that I think actually I was wrong. It’s nitpicking from thank you, sweetheart. Yes, I’ll look at this picture. You

Brian Friend (02:26):


Sevan Matossian (02:26):

Me now leave before I have to span you. Okay. I love you. Bye. Thank you, Ari. What a fantastic picture. A message from one of the producers of the show.

Brian Friend (02:38):

Oh, it’s those Xs and circles on there are those your eyes.

Sevan Matossian (02:43):

Uh that’s um, people who won’t be going to the, um, Atlas to the Atlas regionals, we crossed off Mao, Brian and uh, and one other person. Okay. So the thing is this, if you, I look at the game strictly from a fan perspective, like, oh, I don’t give a fuck. Just tell me where this person’s this going, this going. But these events, I don’t know if they cost $50,000 or a million dollars. These Atlas games, these granite games, these Mac, and how many hundreds, thousands of people are involved in, in running these events that participating in these events. I, by the way, there was also something else that on a side note, and I’d like to talk to Brian about this. I’ll make a note right here. A bunch of you keep sending me a post that was on Reddit, about how people shouldn’t volunteer for the games and that you should expect to be paid because it’s run by venture capitalists. I don’t fucking agree with that at all. I think you should fully volunteer for the games. And I think that fucking mindset is weak. And we get into that. If we have time later on today, have you seen that post Brian people are passing it around like crazy?

Brian Friend (03:44):

I have not. But in, in, in that general regard, what I’ve seen over time is that, uh, you know, myself and many others have gotten into this space in a voluntary goal. Yeah. And as you volunteer over time, you pay own way over time. For some people, opportunities are then provided to have, uh, people pay your way to get to those events. And then from there, they’ll pay you to not only to come, but at a salary on top of that. And actually, uh, and that’s, that can be CrossFit. It can be a, just a off season competition. It can be a, a semi-final style of event or it can be in a different capacity of media. That’s kind of outside of any individual, uh, competition, you know, photographers and videographers often volunteer their time and their work over time. And then a sponsor will pick up and say, Hey, we’re this we’re pixel. And we want you to work three events for us this year, and we can pay you to do that, whatever. So a lot of people put in their own money and their own time early on in this sport. And some of those end up getting jobs as a result of that. And some of ’em just love doing it and they’re not even looking for a job out of it.

Sevan Matossian (04:47):

And so if you, if you don’t wanna volunteer, if you’re the kind of person that you have to do everything for money fine, that’s the kind of person you are. But I do not think those are the, the P I, this podcast would not be where it’s at. If I had to pay everyone to be on it no fucking way. And I don’t think you can find better people than the people I get to come on this podcast. And I, and, and, and I, and I, uh, I think you should volunteer wherever you want. You wanna volunteer at the fucking white house and wipe Joe Biden’s as go do it. Even though someone in there might be making a billion dollars a year, you should do what you want to do. And those of you who are trying to urge people from volunteering at something that’s as cool as the CrossFit games, or as cool as the CrossFit community or something that helps people. I think you’re a jackass.

Brian Friend (05:32):

People are loving your hair today.

Sevan Matossian (05:34):

Really are people commenting on it. I put a ton of go in it. I was actually going to make it like Sonic the hedgehog and put it straight up hair looks better. I know I didn’t put any go in it yesterday or maybe I put too much. Hey, what do you mean? Looks better today. Fuck you. Okay. So, um, so basically what happened last week and, and Brian will correct me here. And then we’ll try to go through this really slowly so we can understand what’s happening because I think it, it is really important cuz there’s so many people’s lives being affected by it, including volunteers. What happened is we had a quarter finals and from that quarter finals, people went to now go to the semi-finals, the good dudes and good girls just prior to them, the, the CrossFit HQ, keen the people and spreading them out throughout all of these semifinals. They sent out a questionnaire, a survey to the athletes and they said, Hey, do you have any issues with travel that we should know about? And people either responded or didn’t respond to the survey and then HQ then filled, um, filled up all the semifinals. And so we’ve watched that sort of been over this past two weeks.

Brian Friend (06:39):


Sevan Matossian (06:41):

And, um, there’s a, for the most part, everything seems to be happening. Um, the way you would think it would happen in terms of just, um, people getting spread out. But there’s some really big questions and some people who’ve been put in places where we’re pretty sure they didn’t want to go. And then there’s even some, even more peculiar things, as I recall, Brian’s um, telling me just prior to this call that there’s even some people who are being backfilled, uh, at least one person or two people being backfilled simultaneously, um, while the, the people who actually qualified went in also, is that correct, Brian?

Brian Friend (07:14):

Yeah. I, I mean, yes.

Sevan Matossian (07:16):

Okay. So we’re trying to piece this thing together and we’re we’re while we’re kind of in the dark, we’re trying to figure CrossFit HQ’s logic for these things. And one of the big things that stands out, I don’t know where you wanna start Brian, but one of the big things that stands out is, is what’s going on over at the Atlas games, just because of the travel restrictions for people to go to Canada. And that’s where Atlas games take place. And the, and the big story there obviously is probably the, the future of CrossFit, Mallory. O’Brien how she was placed up there. Um, let me ask you this, Brian, just in the most practical reason, why would she, she, she won the, the quarter finals, right?

Brian Friend (07:53):

She was first placed in north America for quarter finals for women. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (07:57):

Okay. So theoretically you think they would put her in the best spot, which would mean the earliest one? Uh, we haven’t seen her survey, so maybe she asked to go to Canada, but theoretically we would think that we would think that they would put her in the first one. Right. And one closest to her home. She deserves it. She earned it.

Brian Friend (08:17):

Well, the first one would be syndicate, which is in Tennessee. And the one closest to her home would be a Atlas games, which is about a two hour drive from Vermont.

Sevan Matossian (08:25):

Okay. Okay.

Brian Friend (08:26):

So those two things, you know, so you saying that they would do both of those would not be possible if

Sevan Matossian (08:30):

They wanted so fair. So fair enough. We could argue that HQ put her at Atlas because it’s just a two hour jump from her house

Brian Friend (08:36):

For sure.

Sevan Matossian (08:37):

Okay. And, and her house being, uh, Matt Fraser’s house where she

Brian Friend (08:41):

Trains. Yeah. Or somewhere near there. Yeah. In Vermont.

Sevan Matossian (08:44):

Okay. Uh, so, so what happened there? We, we know this morning she got moved, right? She got taken out of there. Has anyone talked to her? Have we talked to her? Has she made a post about it? Do we know anything?

Brian Friend (08:55):

No communication from her. What we know as far as mall O’Brien is concerned is that she was originally seated into the Atlas games and that O last night, over the course of the night, she was moved, uh, officially on CrossFit games, leaderboards from the Atlas games to the granite games. And that’s the extent of what we can definitely say regarding mall O’Brien

Sevan Matossian (09:17):

And the Atlas games had promoted the fact that Mallory O’Brien was coming there. And this is the stuff, this is where my eyes kind of popped open, like wait a second.

Brian Friend (09:28):

Yeah. So, uh, in, in with all of the things that are problematic surrounding the, this circumstance, I think that the biggest one is how really just unfortunate and unfair. And I, I don’t like using that word unfair that this appears to be for the Atlas games and it, you can’t help, but just feel like additionally bad for them in this regard because of the things that have happened to them in each of the last two years leading into this. And this is why a third blow,

Sevan Matossian (09:56):

Which what happened in the last two years, what happened in let’s start with 2000, uh, 20

Brian Friend (10:01):

March of 2020 Atlas games as a sanctional is set to go off they’re in the process of setting up the floor. All the athletes were there, all the media were there, all the vendors were there. And, um, Trudeau’s wife got COVID up morning and the country shut down in five hours.

Sevan Matossian (10:20):


Brian Friend (10:21):

The competition was not allowed to happen and they lost a lot of money as a result of it. So that’s what, that was 2020. They were the first one to be canceled. They had the short, the least amount of time between their event and the cancellation, which was less than 24 hours. And therefore they were probably hit hardest from a financial perspective of any of the semifinal, the sanctions of which there are many that were canceled.

Sevan Matossian (10:41):

When you say they, who do you mean, is, is this, does one person take this, like on the chin, their own personal bank account? Or is it a business or is it HQ who takes it? Who,

Brian Friend (10:51):

Um, I mean, the, you know, the director of the, uh, of the Atlas games is, um, Alexia, LeBlanc, Baz in name, you know, Camille’s brother and he’s, he’s an incredible guy, great athlete, great business, man. Uh, a huge ambassador for CrossFit. And, uh, I don’t know what the, um, setup is. I don’t know if it’s his investment or if it’s business that he owns, or if there’s a team of people, but the Atlas games as a company took a huge financial blow that year. And a lot of the sanctions did, but many of them had, or all of them that got canceled had more foresight than they did, cuz it was so soon, uh, relative to when they were supposed to start.

Sevan Matossian (11:26):

So it’s not HQ who takes the hit it’s this guy and just, just, and these numbers are not accurate, but I’m just, I just wanna try to understand what’s happening. So you’re saying that he rented out this venue, let’s say for, um, a thousand dollars and he was supposed to, um, get a hundred thousand dollars back in ticket sales. And he had to give the ticket sales back to the people because they didn’t get to go. But then he still had probably had to pay something to the venue. And there’s probably 10 things like that. Security guards, outhouses, just all the shit that it takes, lighting, whatever it takes to set up this event he paid for. And then what he was going to use to pay that back through revenue, which would be athletes, um, vendor village, et cetera. He didn’t get to collect on

Brian Friend (12:09):

More or less. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (12:10):

So it’s something like that. Okay. And, and does, and do we know if HQ reimburses them for that? Or do, do we know anything like that? How that plays out?

Brian Friend (12:18):

I, I don’t know for sure.

Sevan Matossian (12:19):

Okay. Either way its a bad, it’s a bad situation. No, one’s having fun.

Brian Friend (12:22):

Yeah. So that was, that was unfortunate circumstance. Number one for Alice games, 2020

Sevan Matossian (12:28):

Trudo we’ll blame that on Putin,

Brian Friend (12:31):

Uh, 2021, they were selected as one of the four north American semifinals and of the four north American semifinals. They were the only one that had to run a virtual event. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (12:42):

Obviously the potential and once again, because of Trudeau, The rules in Canada,

Brian Friend (12:46):

Because yeah, because of the rules regarding travel in, into and out of Canada. Yes. And as a result,

Sevan Matossian (12:53):

But that’s not, that’s bad for the athletes. That’s not bad for Alexia. Right?

Brian Friend (12:57):

Mm. I don’t know Alexia. I would, I would say that there’s a lost, uh, revenue opportunity there as well because you’re not able to sell tickets as the other three are. You’re not able to have vendors as the other three are. You’re not able to, there’s a bunch of stuff like, yes, you don’t have the cost of the, uh, facility to rent out. But, um, I, I would think that, uh, financially is gonna be more appealing to have a live competition than, uh, online.

Sevan Matossian (13:21):

Okay. Fair enough. Okay. So we roll into 2022,

Brian Friend (13:25):

Not, not to mention that the, you know, the, the opportunity to build up relationships with vendors and, you know, promoters and partners in the event like, you know, yes, you can have a partner for an online competition, but the, the partner’s not gonna get as much exposure as they would with a live competition.

Sevan Matossian (13:40):

Right. And, and, and I like what you said about relationships, he’s lost two years of relationships. So the coffee company that he would’ve charged $500 to come there and sell coffee in 2020 and seven 50 for 2021 and a thousand for 2022. Now he’s back to 500 again, like, Hey shit, we don’t even know if this is gonna happen. There’s crazy, crazy and crazy instability, crazy instability,

Brian Friend (14:00):

You know, plus the opportunity to, to show the world, uh, what you can do in terms of putting out an event. I think that they were poised. I mean, the floor looked amazing. The workouts were great. He’s a really organized guy. I think he’s at a great team supporting him there. It was gonna be a phenomenal competition. No one got see it. And then no one got to see it the next year either.

Sevan Matossian (14:19):

Um, how, how, um, how many followers does, uh, ma O’Brien have, uh, Kayla, you know, um, Brian we know like places like Victorian pro are just huge. The fans come out just ma massive. How, how is it, uh, generally at the Atlas games, do they have a big fan base there? They get a lot of people to show up. There’s

Brian Friend (14:36):

A huge CrossFiting community in Eastern Canada in the Montreal area. And I would expect that they would have, uh, yeah, a very good turnout for, for their events. Um, but you know, that you could say the same thing for, uh, an event like strength, depth in London. And I can just tell you from being there in both of the sanctional years, like it was great environment, but having Sarah CNAs on her there year one totally changed the, the, like the entire competition in a positive way. And having Matt Fraser there in 2020, same thing, like just the feel in the arena, having an feet of that caliber sets it apart from what it would be otherwise. And it’s not to say it wouldn’t be great otherwise, but when you have a huge name in the sport like that, there’s nothing but good things that come with it. And mall O’Brien is becoming that for women in north America right now.

Sevan Matossian (15:25):

So, so, um, and, and can you pull up Matt Frasers? Uh, Instagram also. So a very good point here. What year did Sarah Sigma daughter, um, compete there 2019? You said

Brian Friend (15:35):

2000, 19 strength in depth. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (15:37):

It, oh,

Brian Friend (15:39):

I’m, I’m comparing it to strength to a strength depth, because its

Sevan Matossian (15:43):

The similar,

Brian Friend (15:44):

They’re both the semi-final now they were both the sanctional then they both and

Sevan Matossian (15:48):

Strength wasn’t didn’t was there an Atlas games in 2000?

Brian Friend (15:54):

I don’t think so.

Sevan Matossian (15:55):

Okay. And, and then, and then where did Matt go in 2020

Brian Friend (15:58):

Wasn’t at least I don’t think it was a sanctioned event.

Sevan Matossian (16:00):

And, and where did Matt go in 2020?

Brian Friend (16:03):

Let me check this. He also did go to the, uh, strength in depth.

Sevan Matossian (16:08):

Okay. So I, I misunderstood, but here’s the thing. If ma O’ goes to the Atlas games, guess who’s going with her, this dude, this is the most popular person in the entire CrossFit ecosystem. This is the only guy that’s been on Joe Rogan. This guy is like this, this guy, this guy wouldn’t tag his own mom in a post. And he is got mallet tags, Maow Bryant, this guy, Matt Fraser, wouldn’t tag his mom unless she paid a money to be in a post. And he tags ma O’Brien and this guy is gonna go up to the Atlas games with his coach, with his, uh, student. I’m assuming ma O’Brien who you can tell he is extremely dedicated to and now they’re not going. Yeah. Interesting. And, and, and, and that rocks the boat, right?

Brian Friend (16:55):

Well it all, it all comes back to what, what you originally said is Atlas game so far has had promoted two athletes, pat Vener who’s, you know, pretty much unanimously considered the second fittest guy on earth right now. Yep. And Maow Brian, who has so far been the most, the fittest woman in north America through two stages of competition the us year and is coming off a rookie of the year performance at the games and the top 10 finish at the games last year.

Sevan Matossian (17:20):

And Pat’s probably one of the best personalities in the sport right now, also in terms of he speaks well, he’s likable and he’s great. I mean, he’s got, he’s got all the he’s the full package,

Brian Friend (17:30):

But think about the timeline of these events. So yesterday Atlas games puts that post up and within a couple hours of that CrossFit reaches out to a host of athletes, including mall O’Brien and says, uh, this is the updated situation regarding your seating. Um, some of those athletes were receded. Some of ’em were told you have to make it work and can talk about that in a, in a little while. But in the meantime, I’m just wondering why CrossFit wouldn’t reach out to the competition that they’re partnering with and say, Hey, we know you guys are promoting big athletes in your space. Hold off on saying anything about mal if you were planning to, because something still might change.

Sevan Matossian (18:04):

Do we know, do we know if ma O’Brien what she wrote on her survey? No. If she said, Hey, I can’t go to Canada.

Brian Friend (18:11):

I do not know anything about her or her survey or her interactions with CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (18:15):

What do you personally speculate or think happened if she was assigned? If one of the biggest athletes in the sport was assigned to a semifinal and then moved, What do you think happened? What would you speculate happened?

Brian Friend (18:30):

Well, I have had the opportunity to talk to,

Sevan Matossian (18:33):

Oh, and just one, one more thing before you answer that Logan Collins is gonna come on the show in 15 minutes, he was put in the same position that ma O’Brien is, was in, he was put over at the Atlas games and, and, uh, we don’t know if ma requested to be moved, but we, I think we do know that Logan Collins requested to be moved and he’s not,

Brian Friend (18:51):

We can definitely assume that she requested to be moved.

Sevan Matossian (18:54):

We can’t assume that assumption. Okay. And so we don’t, we, we, we know Logan Collins requested to be moved and that he has not been moved yet. And so he will be coming on to kind of update us on that. And then we can really dig in and find out the details of what it’s like interacting with HQ on this subject. And, and we should have him on, in the next 10 or 50. Okay, Brian, go ahead. So what can we assume? What can we speculate? Not assume what can we speculate on? Um, that happened with ma O’Brien. I did invite her on the show, by the way.

Brian Friend (19:21):

So in, in terms of speculating for ma what we, we can really just take the information we have from other athletes. So people actually probably are not aware of this situation surrounding low in, and it’ll be nice to be able to hear from him about that. But there are a number of athletes who, um, were seated in the Atlas games and despite not having either a vaccination or a passport, or in some cases, both, you would assume that if you are, uh, in that situation and CrossFit asks you, do you have any travel of limitations that you would respond accordingly and say, yes, I do have travel limitations. I either don’t have this, or I don’t have that. Or I don’t have both. And therefore traveling to Canada will be a problematic for me. Please see me somewhere in the United States. I in from the athletes I’ve talked to, there’s kind of a, a, a variety of things that happened.

Brian Friend (20:10):

Some of ’em communicated that we’re seated in the Atlas games anyways and reached out and said, Hey, what happened here? And then the request was changed and they were moved. Some of them forgot to fill out. The survey saw they were seated in the Atlas games, reached out to CrossFit and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I might have forgot to put that there, but I can’t get the Atlas games. I don’t have this. Or I don’t have that. And the request was granted some of, of ’em, from what I can tell communicated, there would be a problem. Traveling. There were seated there anyway, followed that up and said, Hey, what happened here? And are still being told that they have to compete there. So I don’t, I I’m trying to investigate further to find out what what’s happening in each of these cases, because there’s not congruency. It doesn’t seem to matter whether you filled out the survey first or you forgot to, and later informed them. Uh, it doesn’t seem to matter. Like, I, I can’t, I can’t find a, I haven’t been able to find a solid pattern yet that could say, oh, this is why these people are not being allowed to move. And these people are, but I’m trying,

Sevan Matossian (21:11):

I, I wanna, I, I really wanna blame the athletes here. I wanna say, Hey, I betcha. They fucked up and didn’t fill out the survey.

Brian Friend (21:18):

But we already know of a case of someone who did not fill out the survey, reached out to CrossFit, told them, Hey, I, I forgot to fill out my survey, but I can’t get there. And they did grant that request to change.

Sevan Matossian (21:28):

Okay. So that’s a good thing. That’s nice.

Brian Friend (21:31):

But then it doesn’t make any sense in the case of a Logan Collins, which we gotta find out from him where he or

Sevan Matossian (21:36):

He, hasn’t

Brian Friend (21:37):

Where he hasn’t been moved, despite communicating this.

Sevan Matossian (21:39):

What if both of them fucked up and didn’t respond to the survey adequately, but this person’s better than Logan Collins. And that’s why they were moved.

Brian Friend (21:47):

I did a, I don’t know what you mean by better, but I did

Sevan Matossian (21:49):

Finish finished better base. Well, cause they gave us a criteria of how they were gonna place people. And so this person Collins better. I just mean fulfilled that criteria better than the other person.

Brian Friend (21:59):

Logan’s Collins placed 40th in the quarter finals. The three men that have been moved out of the Atlas games placed 43rd, 88th and 92nd in quarter finals.

Sevan Matossian (22:08):

Hey CrossFit, how the fuck am I supposed to defend you? If Brian’s got an answer for every fucking question, how am I supposed to defend?

Brian Friend (22:14):

Because I’m asking the same questions and I don’t know that until I go and check, and I’m going to check because I’m trying to find any logical reason that can, that can, uh, illuminate why this is happening for some and not for others and absent of CrossFit telling us what’s going on, which they’re choosing not to do. And they’ve honestly have chosen not to do that throughout the entire seating process. Um, we just have to try to dig up as many clues as we can and make sense of it.

Sevan Matossian (22:40):

Um, what do you think about this comment from will Roy Falkowski was one of the early persons that was switched. I caught base, I think I’m reading this right. I caught him on the Atlas game leader it early on prior to his granite games announcement.

Brian Friend (22:54):

The first time I saw ow on the leaderboards for semifinals was that Atlas game was at granite games. I never saw him on the Atlas games roster. So if, if will did see that then, you know, unless he has a screenshot that he can send me with a times to show it. I don’t, I don’t agree with

Sevan Matossian (23:08):

That. You can’t just text OWS right now or on the, and be like, Hey

Brian Friend (23:11):

Dude, I talked to Kowski personally about his, uh, assignment for semi-finals and it sounded like he was gonna be granite games the whole time.

Sevan Matossian (23:18):

And did he have any complaints?

Brian Friend (23:20):

No, he’s happy to be competing there.

Sevan Matossian (23:22):

Oh, Hey, that’s a great, wow. That’s on the granite games. Instagram. That’s cool earned.

Brian Friend (23:27):

He’s he’s competed there before

Sevan Matossian (23:30):

Earned meaning that’s like, uh, he earned to go to the spot, right?

Brian Friend (23:34):

This is just their, uh, like earns not given, I think is one of their, um, just their sayings up at the granite camp. Yeah. It’s their hashtag earns. Not given.

Sevan Matossian (23:44):

Are there any athletes I’m gonna go, I’m gonna go back a second. I’m gonna switch gears here a little bit. Sorry. I’m gonna conflate some issues here. Are there any athletes originally when you and Hiller were digging into this? Um, there were athletes that didn’t make the top one 20 that should have made the one 20, I believe, based on workout. Number three, did all of that get resolved in everyone who deserves to go to the semifinals, going to the semifinals and everyone who doesn’t deserve not going

Brian Friend (24:13):

No. Uh, CrossFit made a statement publicly about this that said they were not gonna go and change the erroneous scores because per their evaluation, it wouldn’t have had any effect on the semifinal know leaderboards,

Sevan Matossian (24:26):

You know, an athlete who should be going to the semifinals. Who’s not

Brian Friend (24:30):

Based on research that someone in Europe and someone and, and Andrew Hiller did, it seems very obvious that there would be up to four men in both Europe and north America, that if the leaderboards were correctly reflective of athletes, performances and work at three would be a, in the top 60 in Europe at the expense of four, that would be out and four in the United States. That would be in the top one 20 at the expense of four, who would be out. But CrossFit says that that’s false.

Sevan Matossian (24:57):

Yeah. Oh, um, uh, sorry,

Brian Friend (25:01):

What CrossFit does acknowledge and what everyone knows is that there are in, uh, accurate scores still on the leader board for workout three. And CrossFits admitted that and said, that’s just how it’s gonna stay.

Sevan Matossian (25:12):

Yeah, that’s insane. Let me come back to that one second. So this is very interesting. I’m not sure what Matt Reynolds was saying. If Matt travels with her and seven speculated, Matt won back. So here’s the thing. I’m, I don’t know this for certain, but I would say I would, if I had to bet, um, uh, two inches of Brian’s Dick, I would do it and say, Matt for is not vaccinated. That would be my a hundred percent guess. And I would also guess that he would not get vaccinated to go to Canada or to go anywhere. He don’t give a fuck. He’s happy. He’s paid his dues. He’s got a beautiful, uh, uh, uh, uh, girlfriend, a beautiful house in Vermont. He’s not gonna do anything he doesn’t wanna do. And so that may be something pure speculation that happened for all we know, maybe ma O’Brien is VAX.

Sevan Matossian (25:50):

She got the survey, she had no issues traveling anywhere. She didn’t fill it out. And then her coat, when she got assigned to the Atlas games, her coach said, fuck, that I’m not going up there. And she’s like, okay, let’s switch. That’s possible too. They, and, and I don’t know about the current I who the fuck knows who’s in charge there, but Rosa would, um, fly a apart before why a private jet to grab Matt and put him wherever he wanted. Rosa loves Matt Fraser and loves Karin David’s donor. Like they basically were running the company for the two years that he was fucking in office or a year or whatever when Rosa was there. So that’s a, I would, I would be willing to speculate that I’m very comfortable saying that it could be, uh, regarding her coach and, and, and, you know, maybe Fraser should be treated like that. I mean, look at him, look at him. He’s the man. Okay. But, but I’m not sure exactly what Matt Reynolds was saying, but that could be it. Did you follow that, Brian? What I’m saying that basically, maybe she didn’t, um, fill anything out, but Matt’s not willing to go up there.

Brian Friend (26:44):

Yeah, I, well, yeah, I follow what you’re saying. Uh, I don’t think that that’s Jesus Christ. Um,

Sevan Matossian (26:50):

Does that hurt, um, Atlas games, um, financially, are there people who now are not going to go because ma O’Brien’s not gonna be there. Like, did they lose, uh, 400, 500 ticket sales?

Brian Friend (27:01):

Yeah, probably. I mean, and I, I think for sure there’s people that would be, um, there’s people that would and

Sevan Matossian (27:09):

Make them look foolish and they make ’em look a little bit foolish, right?

Brian Friend (27:12):


Sevan Matossian (27:15):

Mr. Collins high.

Logan Collins (27:16):

How we doing? What’s

Sevan Matossian (27:17):

Up? Thanks. Jumping on.

Logan Collins (27:19):

Yeah. Sorry about that. Ran a little late today.

Sevan Matossian (27:22):

Sorry about that. Are you kidding me? You don’t anyone an apology? I can’t believe you came on.

Logan Collins (27:28):

Yeah. Appreciate you. Hey,

Sevan Matossian (27:29):

Did you fix your Instagram account? I noticed there was something wrong with it.

Logan Collins (27:34):

Uh, I don’t think anything was wrong with it.

Sevan Matossian (27:37):

Yeah. Yeah. Cuz when I went there, it didn’t say, uh, it didn’t say follow back. It just said follow it. Didn’t say you followed me.

Logan Collins (27:44):

I got you, man. I okay. I do watch. I do watch your show a lot.

Sevan Matossian (27:49):

You like that? Caleb fucking attacked the guest right off the bat. Thank you right off. Thank you, Caleb. Thank you. Um, so I really appreciate you coming on. I don’t want to, I, I know that. Um, so just a little backstory you finished. Uh, where did he finish in the quarter finals? Uh, Brian

Brian Friend (28:07):


Sevan Matossian (28:08):

In north America.

Brian Friend (28:10):


Sevan Matossian (28:11):

And the top one 20 males go.

Brian Friend (28:15):


Sevan Matossian (28:16):

So Mr. Collins is good.

Brian Friend (28:18):

Yep. Top third

Logan Collins (28:19):


Sevan Matossian (28:21):

And has Mr. Collins ever been to the game before Brian?

Brian Friend (28:23):

Oh yeah.

Sevan Matossian (28:25):

Can you tell us a little bit? Can you love him a little bit?

Logan Collins (28:28):

Yeah. Meet up Brian, come on.

Brian Friend (28:31):

Not only, not only has it been to the games before, but he went in four consecutive years and three of those years he finished 15th or better with a career. Best finish of 11th.

Logan Collins (28:41):

Yep. 11th and, uh, 17.

Sevan Matossian (28:44):

And uh, and who do you know by any chance who finished? Uh, 10th and 12th. I want, I just would like to know always what kind of company

Brian Friend (28:49):

You’re not gonna like this. He Jason Smith. 12 Travis mayor.

Sevan Matossian (28:54):


Logan Collins (28:55):


Sevan Matossian (28:55):

My goodness. You asshole.

Logan Collins (28:59):

Yeah, that was a good for

Sevan Matossian (29:00):

Me. That’s good. That’s good company. That’s great company. Okay. And where is home for you? What, what, what, where, where, where do you, where do you live? Uh,

Logan Collins (29:08):

I live in wi Wiley, Texas about maybe 10 miles, 15 miles Northeast of Dallas.

Sevan Matossian (29:14):

Wow. Uh, just for the record for everyone who doesn’t understand world geography, you cannot send a Texan into Canada. You cannot, unless they’re

Logan Collins (29:22):

Going 1500 miles away.

Sevan Matossian (29:25):

And, and, and unless they’re going up there to work on some pump to X that’s, the only thing Canada and Texas have in common is, uh, is oil in the ground. Holy cow. Okay. So, so you qualify for, um, semifinals. Are you excited? How, how, how are you doing this year? Are you pumping? Yeah.

Logan Collins (29:44):

Yeah. Good. Um, I, a couple of years back, my wife and I had a daughter in 2020 and uh, her had our daughter. And so it kind of put a little bit of a halt on things on 2020 and even 2021. It was pretty rough. And so just finally got to a good schedule.

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