#369 – Hunter McIntyre & Jordan Leavitt

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Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Tell him the coming 30 Hunter’s freaking, uh, bam. We’re live. Hunter’s freaking out. Cause I haven’t sent him a link yet. Hey, whoa. Caleb. Look at you.

Mattew Ouza (00:07):

Got it. Now,

Sevan Matossian (00:08):

Did you get a haircut or your hair’s growing in

Caleb Beaver (00:11):

Haircut?

Sevan Matossian (00:12):

Oh, thought you were bald already

Caleb Beaver (00:15):

More. Balded

Mattew Ouza (00:18):

Extra bald.

Sevan Matossian (00:20):

I don’t mean this at anyone in particular. You have to understand that to anyone who’s listening. I do not mean this to anyone in particular. I’m not thinking to anyone in particular, but you have to know the nine out of the 10 people who try to come on this show, who, who try to participate in this show? You, you

Sevan Matossian (00:38):

It’s like going to try out for the NFL and you. Hi, good morning, Elise. Good evening. Uh, you we’re already there. You think that you want to, um, you think you wanna play with Caleb and, and will and Matt and me, you don’t we’re we’re not playing. We’re not playing. We need other people, but we’re not playing. We’re already going 500 miles an hour. We’re already there. We already think we’ve arrived. Do you think you’ve already arrived? You don’t have to have the talent. We don’t need anybody. Who’s talented. We need people who like know that we’re already there. You know, you would just had never had an excuse. Like you’re the luckiest person in the world to participate in this show. I don’t wanna like, that’s how I feel. I can’t help it.

Sevan Matossian (01:31):

And so those of you who’ve tried to come on who wanna be a co-host or who said you’re gonna help us with shit. And you’re just not like trying to be like, I didn’t know, Caleb and Susan were gonna be here just now. Everyone’s like running to keep up. And this thing’s like a train. And it goes by every single day and Caleb and Matt and me, um, try to jump on and will tries to jump on. And there’s people that we invite to jump on, cuz they, they beg to jump on and we keep driving by their house and they don’t jump on and I get it. Like it, it, you, you can’t believe that this train how hard this train is working. We’re already there guys.

Sevan Matossian (02:10):

So those of you who’ve had the opportunity. I just want you to know that like eventually this train won’t go by your house. I’m just trying to give the metaphor. I just feel sorry for some people who act like they want to be a part of this club, but, and, and, and, and the door’s like wide fucking open, but they really don’t. Cuz they don’t understand. They don’t understand right now it’s a 3 billion ton train rain. That’s going eight miles an hour and tomorrow it’s gonna go nine and eventually it’s gonna go 60 and you’ll never be able to catch it and kudos to Caleb, Matt and will for getting on like crazy. I are you Seon strong? I’m no I’m Seon. Autumn ma but I’m getting I’m pretty fucking strong right now. Autumn a R a M uh, my son’s name is Joseph Strong. Joseph Strong 13. K. Oh is it 13? K no. 300 billion. Tons. It’s big, bigger than 13. It’s it’s a massive train. Thank you. The 13 K 13,000 ton. Is that big enough? I don’t know. It reminds of like what Matt and Josh used to say, like everyone says that they’re working as hard as they can, but they’re really not like we are. We’re working as hard as we can. You wanna be a part of it? It looks like it’s fun. I told Matt today at, um, Susan today, I called him. I go, I’m fucking so burnt out. Why did I choose to do another show today?

Sevan Matossian (03:41):

Cause that’s what fucking Colton Merton’s does after he fucking gets off the Tyson pig farm. Cause I, I surround, I surround myself with people like that. Yeah, yeah. Yep. Yep. Trina gets it before. I could even say it Roco,

Rosco (03:55):

You know,

Sevan Matossian (03:57):

High rocks as a senior citizen.

Rosco (04:00):

You the fuck you guys, you know

Sevan Matossian (04:02):

When high is a senior citizen by fucking taking days off,

Mattew Ouza (04:07):

This is the open show. Just they just let anybody off this one.

Sevan Matossian (04:10):

Holy shit, dude.

Rosco (04:12):

What’s up bro?

Sevan Matossian (04:13):

Are you tripping?

Rosco (04:15):

Are you tripping?

Sevan Matossian (04:17):

You beat the world record by two minutes.

Rosco (04:20):

Yeah bro. I just spent way too much time working out way too much time. Hey,

Sevan Matossian (04:25):

I, I talked to you before the event and you said you were gonna retire.

Rosco (04:29):

I am gonna retire. What’s wrong? That it’s fucking

Sevan Matossian (04:34):

Nothing. It’s just amazing. I’m so I’m so impressed.

Rosco (04:39):

Thanks brother, man.

Sevan Matossian (04:40):

I’m so I’m so, so, so, so, so impressed, Caleb. I have to kick you off too many people. Oh

Rosco (04:47):

You got the boot that quick.

Sevan Matossian (04:49):

Yeah, but you can bring him back like that too.

Rosco (04:51):

Oh, that was heavy.

Sevan Matossian (04:52):

Why? Look, watch this. Hi, bye. Hi.

Rosco (04:56):

Where do you guys all exist

Sevan Matossian (04:59):

In your head?

Rosco (05:00):

That’s pretty true. Actually been losing my mind a lot lately. They kind of places that you need to go to, to get that kind of performance out of your body is, um, is pretty much I videotaped it and didn’t post it today just because I was like, I don’t really want to talk about this on social media cuz then it’s just gonna, I, I don’t really care to give people that, not that I don’t care about people. It’s just like, it’s odd. But since you guys are my friends, um, the kind of place

Sevan Matossian (05:29):

Know him. Do you know the guy down there below Matt Suza? Have you ever met him?

Rosco (05:33):

Oh, kinda pretending that I’m just in the intimate room with Uson oh,

Mattew Ouza (05:37):

Behind you in the seventh grade and English class.

Rosco (05:39):

Did we really?

Mattew Ouza (05:40):

No.

Rosco (05:42):

Fuck. Hey,

Sevan Matossian (05:43):

I kick his ass. The too watch, watch, watch. Bye. I was,

Rosco (05:47):

I was an asshole seventh grade, so I, I really hope that we weren’t in the same class cuz that would

Sevan Matossian (05:54):

You, you gave him a snuggy in the seventh grade. Okay. Pretend like we don’t know each other so good. And I wanna ask you some questions.

Rosco (06:01):

Yeah, let’s do this. Let’s get deep and meaningful.

Sevan Matossian (06:04):

Um, uh, stop flashing your beaver. That guy’s name is C beaver Caleb beaver, but we just call him C beaver and someone made a joke. Stop flashing your beaver, um, hunter. Um, so tell, so you competed in the hi rocks world championships this past weekend.

Rosco (06:23):

It wasn’t world championships. It was just the last event that you could qualify for world championships. So it was stacked for sure. It’s kind of like, um, the best way of putting it. It’d be like winning a, um, sectional or something like at

Sevan Matossian (06:38):

H Y R O X.

Rosco (06:40):

Yes. I don’t even know what that means.

Sevan Matossian (06:43):

And this is, and, and how many years have you been participating in these events?

Rosco (06:47):

Um, I did my first one in 2019, but I’ve been doing the version of sport, what this is called, which is fitness racing since 2017. Um, you know, other, he is like tough mutter headed championship, um, called, uh, TMX. That was very similar to this shorter, but similar. Um, and that’s how I got into all this stuff. And actually a lot of CrossFit games, athletes used to come and compete in that annually. So now, you know, there’s, this, thing’s a much more developed version of it where it’s an international sport.

Sevan Matossian (07:18):

It’s huge in Germany, right? That’s kind of it’s

Rosco (07:21):

Yeah. Every single event in Germany, they’re they, they’re putting on probably two to three events a month between two and 3000 people. And in your, in, in the UK, they’re putting on one every month or every other month, anywhere from two to 4,000 people participating, not just showing up. Um, so it’s a pretty packed fitness event

Sevan Matossian (07:40):

And it’s the same. Will you tell me the course really quick?

Rosco (07:44):

Um, the best way to explain it is basically it’s, it’s like a circuit, it’s a running circuit where it’s like Helen, but like way, way, way more work. Every single time you do a thousand liters, you have to come in and do a fitness challenge. And all of the fitness challenges are kind of representations of all the sports that are out there. So obviously skier is Nordic skiing. Sled push is like Bob sled. Sled pull is like strong man tug of war type shit. Burpy bra jump is just fitness. Rowing is Olympic rowing. Um, farmer carry a strong man. Lunges is just a fitness movement and wall balls. You’re, you’re looking at all. Um, that’s not pro weights or pro reps, but um, those are the movements you need to do. Uh, so we have to do a hundred wall balls at the end with 20 pounds.

Sevan Matossian (08:34):

Okay. So it’s um, uh, hold on. Uh what’s after sand, what was after sandbag? I wanna see that one more time down there bag and then wall balls.

Rosco (08:42):

Wall balls.

Sevan Matossian (08:43):

Okay. And then do you finish with the run? No, no. You finish with the wall balls sandbag.

Rosco (08:47):

We done

Sevan Matossian (08:48):

Wall balls. Okay. So everyone I’m gonna tell you what the event is right now. Not with the reps. It’s a thousand meter run than a skier. Then it’s a thousand meter run. It’s a sled push it’s a thousand meter run. It’s burpy broad jump. It’s a thousand meter run thousand meter row. It’s a thousand meter run. It’s kettlebells swing.

Rosco (09:06):

No, no farmer carry 200 yard

Sevan Matossian (09:07):

Farmer carry, uh, thousand meter run, sandbag, um, lunch

Rosco (09:13):

Sandbag lung, yep. Hundred.

Sevan Matossian (09:16):

And then a thousand meter run and then wall balls

Rosco (09:19):

Hundred. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (09:21):

Nasty. And you, and you’ve been doing this, um, what was the slowest world record you’ve ever set in this? Like when you first set, when, when you came in or when you came into the sport, do you remember what the world record was? It was over an hour, right?

Rosco (09:34):

No, the world record was 58, 59. It’s 58, 59. But here’s the thing. And I, they, they don’t like admitting it, but the European courses are very different from the American courses. They use different material and different fitness equipment. And then also the halls, like they don’t have big arenas like we do here in the United States. So the way that they set these things up is they take, um, convention centers and they put them inside of them. But usually for some reason, all of the arenas in, in Europe are much smaller,

Sevan Matossian (10:10):

Smaller with an H S H M sch smaller.

Rosco (10:12):

Yeah. Sch smaller. And what happens is, is technically everything is supposed to be the same distance, but because of the way that they design the course, um, the inside, like the travel that you have to do between stations and the United States is always much further. So that’s called the rock zone. So that’s another time domain that like where they measure, how long it takes you to get from station to station. And, um, ours are always like two to three minutes longer than the European courses. So European times are for pussies.

Sevan Matossian (10:43):

Well, what, what are the, why the term rock zone?

Rosco (10:47):

Well, high rocks. So rocks, it’s some kind of German, it’s something in German. I don’t know what the hell it is, but it’s the rock zone.

Sevan Matossian (10:56):

So the high would be like the penis and the anus and the rocks would be like the space in between the two.

Rosco (11:03):

That’d be the Gooch,

Sevan Matossian (11:05):

The Gooch, the Gooch zone, the Gooch zone. I have to, I have to, sorry. I like to put everything in context so I can understand it into my, into my, and so what about the other implications of the equipment? Are you suggesting that maybe the ketlebells would have a thicker grips, sometimes thinner grip? Are you saying that sometimes the sandbags are softer, heavier, so they sit easier on your shoulders when you’re doing the lunges, something like that even, or

Rosco (11:25):

Predominantly the biggest factor is that they use different sleds than us. And I know this sounds, I mean, you’d have to really be into it. It’s like, it’d be almost like lifting, doing Olympic lifting meat with ANCO barbell versus like one of the barbells that I used to use back in like the 1920s where they didn’t have ball bears.

Sevan Matossian (11:42):

Right.

Rosco (11:43):

So they use different carpets. And for some reason, the way that their carpets over there work, you know, you’ll notice if you watch one of the videos

Sevan Matossian (11:51):

I prefer, I prefer seventies, 1970s, carpet Bush to the more modern shag. I really like a shagging

Rosco (11:59):

One. She, she, that carpet that they’re using right there. Yes. In United States, for some reason, our carpet and sleds just stick differently. Like I’m 200 pounds of pure muscle. And I don’t even come in one minute of the time, times that it takes them to do the sleds. And you’ll notice the guys that I’m racing against over there are so much smaller. It’s not like it, you know, it’s you just see it. And when I went over there and I raced, um, for world championships in 2020, I pushed the sleds in like a record time because it’s just different material. But the thing is, is like, is

Sevan Matossian (12:32):

That the background there with the fro?

Rosco (12:35):

Yeah. You can see my mom in the background looking

Sevan Matossian (12:37):

All. Yeah. That’s awesome. Section

Rosco (12:38):

Shit. Um, so in, but it’s always about who wins on the day, you know, in reality you can bitch him on about the courses, but world championships are in Vegas, um, 14th, and that will be in this arena. Everyone’s gotta do the same thing. So at the end of the day, the best man wins.

Sevan Matossian (13:01):

Wow.

Rosco (13:02):

Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (13:03):

Hey, um, uh, can someone call in on the call-in number? I wanna see if the call-in number’s working. I, I, I, I switch, oh shit. I can’t even do the banners. I can’t even, I switch phones. I just wanna see if it works. Okay. So you’re saying you did it on a what’s even more amazing is not only did you break the world record by two minutes, but you did

Rosco (13:20):

It. I did an American soil.

Sevan Matossian (13:22):

Yeah. Where, where some of the equipment is. So, so if someone did it even like within 30 seconds of that time, next month in Europe, you would be like, eh, not so much.

Rosco (13:31):

Yeah. But I try not to say anything about it publicly, because it’s just like, then you just sound like a, so loser. And I really like the guy Toby who set the world record

Sevan Matossian (13:43):

Before me. Hello caller. How, how are oh, so many callers calling in. All right. So it works. Thank you for calling.

Rosco (13:51):

Okay. Do you have, do you have whack Packers? Yeah. What’s up?

Speaker 6 (13:56):

Hey, just so you know, I just did the Hix event in Dallas, too, where hunter was.

Sevan Matossian (14:00):

Yeah. I almost hung up on you. You gotta, you gotta speak way faster, fucking kicking you to the curve. One

Speaker 6 (14:05):

Boy, that carpet, that carpet absolutely stunned me. Like I literally thought I was gonna throw up after the split. And that was at just the regular weight.

Sevan Matossian (14:13):

Well, are you 200 pounds of just, um, muscle like hunter? I’m not

Speaker 6 (14:17):

Muscle. No, not, not like hunter, but I do have a more respect for hunter since he did that. Like 55 minutes beat doubles time.

Sevan Matossian (14:25):

Did you see hunter there?

Speaker 6 (14:27):

Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (14:28):

Is he cool or does he just walk around like a prick? Like he knows HES the hi rock shit.

Speaker 6 (14:33):

He thinks he’s so fit, man. But good thing. He actually is

Sevan Matossian (14:37):

Look it, he beat fucking second place by five minute. Hunter was already talking to Scott’s wife before that shit was over. Hey Scotty. Okay. Hey, thanks for calling. Wait, thanks for calling Brandon luck. We recognize

Mattew Ouza (14:50):

That name.

Sevan Matossian (14:53):

Oh, no shit. Yeah. Uh, calling, uh, hello, Mr. Fields. Hi. How are you? Hi, Devon.

Speaker 7 (15:00):

Hey, how you doing man? Good. Uh, what’s up hunter? I’m in here. Hey, as a group, uh, sick fucking job. Uh, getting the, uh, uh, sorry, just walked outside. Um, getting the world record. Wait,

Sevan Matossian (15:11):

What for you in with him in his, in his AA group?

Rosco (15:14):

Yes.

Speaker 7 (15:15):

Yes. Yeah. Ha good one good one. Um, so at the beginning of the podcast, hunter was gonna say something, um, before interrupted him about like a certain about a certain metal, uh, mental head space. Like you have to get him to win.

Sevan Matossian (15:31):

He wasn’t saying shit about that. Was he really?

Speaker 7 (15:33):

Yeah, he was, was he just interrupting him, bro? It was like actually interesting.

Sevan Matossian (15:36):

Oh, okay.

Rosco (15:37):

Sorry. You suck at doing podcasts. Oh my cause it’s never really, it’s never really informative. It’s just like, if we were around a fire pit and everyone had had acid and a couple four Locos, it’s just, that’s how you have a podcast.

Mattew Ouza (15:49):

That’s it nailed it. We’re

Rosco (15:51):

Going for it. That’s so this

Sevan Matossian (15:53):

Is embarrasing change the title, this podcast to critiquing Seon

Speaker 7 (15:58):

To do it. I do like when you talk about wieners and bushes though, that’s always interesting. Thank

Sevan Matossian (16:02):

You. Okay. So please, hunter, tell us about the, the mindset.

Rosco (16:08):

Um,

Rosco (16:11):

Uh, I’ll put a, you this, I have been doing this now for 11 years and it started out with me, like I’ve always had to promise at extreme levels that I would commit to something even to the point where I had explained this to somebody earlier where they didn’t really know if they trusted me in my word, I was like, I had tattoo, had tried it on my back. When I was in rehab, cuz I was doing heroin to promise myself that I was no longer gonna do heroin. And I was gonna go into the Navy seals. I had a tattoo macho man and Randy Savage on my ribs to promise myself, cause I was like macho man. Randy Savage gives up to no one cause I had lost my world championship that year. And I was like, may, maybe I’m washed up. Maybe I’m not as good as I think I am.

Rosco (16:58):

And you always are having to double down at a level every single year, even more than the year before to convince yourself that you’re still the best and then it’s still worthwhile. And then it’s still worthwhile, you know, not showing up to birthday parties, not showing up to my nieces, you know, uh, birth, not showing up to funerals, not showing up, um, to dates where people, you know, you’re supposed to hold yourself accountable and um, not to be all melodramatic, but I’ve kind of missed out on the majority of my life where people that I really love, I’m passing by and I’m just fucking over it. When I commit, like I committed for the past two months, I literally cook you’re

Sevan Matossian (17:43):

Over what? You’re over what?

Rosco (17:46):

I just am over putting myself through that shit,

Sevan Matossian (17:48):

Dude. Oh it sound, oh yeah.

Rosco (17:50):

I, I know this is gonna sound crazy, but I had to go to therapy three times a week for the past two months to get my fucking head straight.

Speaker 7 (18:01):

And what was that like? Just cause you were missing out in so many like enjoyments of life or you just kind of burnt out.

Rosco (18:07):

No dude, I’m just so, so fucking hard on myself. You know, when people should be like, man, you’re, you’re great. I never say that to myself. I absolutely hate myself every single day of my life. And then all of a sudden, not like I’m suicidal or something like that, but that’s the kind of stuff you need to say to yourself. Like

Sevan Matossian (18:25):

You just wear conquering. That’s too small,

Rosco (18:28):

Too tight, too

Sevan Matossian (18:29):

Tight,

Rosco (18:30):

Tight.

Sevan Matossian (18:31):

And so even when you win, there’s no reprieve is what you’re saying. Like you win and you still feel empty.

Rosco (18:37):

I won and set the world record and I got to spend time with my friends, but then all of a sudden it was like, we were all outta the Barss and like everyone wanted to jump and dance on couches. We got a table and I just started drinking Coca-Cola and sitting down chair. And I was like, fuck, what am I doing here again? And um, I get it dude. Like I’ve got better opportunities than most people in the entire world. And I am super, super grateful that I got to this point, but I’ll tell you it doesn’t taste as sweet anymore. When I was 24 years old and I won a championship and they gave me a $500 and I spent it all on beer that night and I’d headbutt somebody in the bar and try to kiss all the girls. I was like, this is the fucking shit. Um, and that’s great. Like I’ve done all that, but I think I’m just ready for the next chapter is my point.

Sevan Matossian (19:26):

How hard?

Speaker 7 (19:27):

Well thanks the answer man.

Rosco (19:28):

Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:29):

Yeah. Devon, I’m gonna, I’m gonna watch a podcast live. Thank you much for the call, man. Yeah. Thanks

Sevan Matossian (19:33):

Hon. Absolutely. Thanks for calling in brother.

Rosco (19:35):

See cheek

Sevan Matossian (19:37):

Jackass. Uh,

Rosco (19:38):

Total fucking turd. No, I’m kidding.

Sevan Matossian (19:41):

No, he’s a good yeah. Mr. Fields. Um,

Rosco (19:46):

You there?

Sevan Matossian (19:47):

Yeah. I’m thinking about how did you push yourself hard? Like when you went 50, it is really crazy. So, so here’s the, here’s the fuel. Um, uh, this is what, this is how you set a world record. You have to have tons of, well you, the only thing we know so far is that you’re you needed a therapist three times a week for the last two months, but what, what about the other part? What’s the other and, and you’re just not satisfied something’s missing. Uh, but, but you won. Is, is that the formula to winning?

Rosco (20:20):

I think it is. I mean, I, I’m not gonna lie. I, I I’ve spent so much time researching like all the best warriors, war Lords, um, athletes, you know, everybody seems to have this same kind of formula in their head of absolution towards the idea that they’re chasing. And I would say the majority of the time there always ends end up being isolated by themselves because no, one’s gonna believe what you’re saying to yourself and your head over and over and over and over again.

Sevan Matossian (20:56):

Why won’t they believe it? Cuz they just can’t imagine that being the championship mindset.

Rosco (21:00):

Yeah. I mean dude, like I have these training camps all the time and I’m super lucky that my friends want to come out and train with me. But by like the third day, everybody always breaks. Everybody always breaks and they always wanna take the next workout and change it a little bit. And they always want to, you know, push the workout that we’re supposed to start out at like, you know, 8:00 AM and push it to nine so that they can have more breakfast and take a longer turd and always happens. And then what

Sevan Matossian (21:29):

Happens? You, you guys hear this shit. This is how I started this show before hunter got on here, you don’t want a piece of this podcast, go fuck yourself, stop acting like you want to get on my train. You wanna get on the hunter train? You think you’re gonna come there and just train for a few days and then be like, uh, we’re gonna cut everything by 30% tired.

Rosco (21:49):

Yeah, fuck. It always ends up happening. And then what ends up happening with me? And it sucks is then I end up getting angry or disappointed in you. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, rather than even even giving that chance for anger or disappointment, you just go like this and just push.

Sevan Matossian (22:06):

Yeah.

Rosco (22:07):

Like my every single time I love my mom with my entire heart, but every single time I come home, my mom’s like, you’re doing too much. You’re just gonna hurt yourself. Why don’t you just eat some lobster and put butter all over it and have a bunch of wine with me then like I love you mom, but you’re fuck. I was like, you don’t fucking understand me at all. And I love my mother. She’s the sweetest person on the entire planet. I wish I had more of her heart and mind, but that’s just the, that’s the cost. I bet you, um, I bet you, somebody like Matt, Matt, Frazier’s the, you know, king of your guy’s sport. I bet you near the very end. Fuck

Sevan Matossian (22:45):

That. Not my sport. I’m over that shit.

Rosco (22:47):

You know what I mean? I bet you that guy on the was losing his shit nine times outta 10, but

Sevan Matossian (22:52):

He threatened. I think he’s still losing his shit. I think he’s still losing his shit.

Rosco (22:56):

Yeah. Yeah. And it’s great though. I mean, dude, you gotta have that kind of mindset to get that kind of result.

Sevan Matossian (23:03):

Hey do, um, uh, Mark Fuentes says that maybe you need Jesus. Um, do you know who Jim Henzel is?

Rosco (23:10):

No.

Sevan Matossian (23:11):

We had him on the show and he works with uh, Michael Chandler and he works with rich fie. Do you know who Michael Chandler is?

Rosco (23:18):

No,

Sevan Matossian (23:19):

He’s, he’s a UFC fighter, huge UFC fighter. And basically he works with, and he works with NFL players and he works with them to prepare them for the life after their sport. You, I mean, you’ve had to have heard this whole thing right. With like, Hey, you can’t identify with your victories or your sport or, or do you know what I’m talking about? This, this, this problem. Like someone thinks that they’re an NFL football player because they’ve done it for 10 years and then their career’s over. And then they’re like, wait, who the fuck am I

Rosco (23:48):

I’d love to talk to ’em sometimes

Sevan Matossian (23:49):

It’s, it’s kind, it’s kind of a cliche narrative, but maybe it’s something like that. You’re going through. You’re done being this guy, this, this guy.

Rosco (23:58):

Well, I’ll tell you, man, it was super

Sevan Matossian (23:59):

And that guy has to die and it just sucks. Death sucks.

Rosco (24:02):

Yeah. I went through all that shit. It’s sucks because all of a sudden I was like, wait a second. I’ve spent my entire career and this is, this is crazy. So I literally left rehab and then I went into modeling and I was like, well, everybody thinks I’m really cool. Cause I’m modeling now. And that works for like five seconds. Cause I was like a fucking eight modeling. I’m not doing this shit. What am I gonna do? Now? I tried to go to college for like, like five seconds cuz I thought that was the right thing to do. And I was like, this sucks. So I dropped out right away, went back to modeling for two seconds. And in that period of time I decided to go do a mud run and I came six place outta 10,000 people like everybody in the room was like, oh shit.

Rosco (24:41):

And I was like, oh that let us spark up. And then all of a sudden I went to the next race and I went half marathon. I’d never even run over three miles in my entire life. And I ran a half marathon and everyone was like, oh shit. And I got a medal around my neck and now people were starting to pay me within six months. I was getting flown all over the world by Spartan race and Reebok to now represent their sport and be the face of their new sport in a, I was like, this is it. I guess this is what I do now. And it became everything I literally was. I got my first ever job for, for Spartan races. They sent me to Mexico as the super gringo and they put a $10,000 purse on my head to say that no one in Mexico could beat me.

Rosco (25:23):

And I had never even been to Mexico before. And it just started that quickly. And it’s been going at that pace for, as I said, 11 seasons now. And um, it’s interesting. I mean, I guess, I guess, you know, I’ve been reading all these weird spiritual books, like what, and um, you know, the most eye opening one was, um, I think it’s called, uh, Yogi engineer by that Saha guru guy. And then there’s this other book that I fucking hated. I remember someone gave it to me five years ago, a therapist, it was called awareness and I read the first fucking 10 20 pages and I just threw the book at the wall. I was like, this is such bullshit.

Sevan Matossian (26:07):

That’s the one for you? That’s the book.

Mattew Ouza (26:10):

Was there ever fulfillment with those winds? Like with the half marathon and we started, did you ever, did you ever feel internal fulfillment with those or was it all just based off of like the acclimates from external admiration?

Rosco (26:21):

I mean there’s fulfillment for sure. Dude. It’s very exciting to all of a sudden win a half marathon with absolutely no clue how to get past the, the third mile. Like it’s great, don’t get me wrong. But then eventually, um, you know, you totally get wrapped up in it. You totally get wrapped up in it. And then also you don’t know how to put it down. Like, you know, you’re only as good as your last win. And I lost the last two races even though I, I basically went five years undefeated and I was undefeated. And the majority of all the events that I’ve ever competed in that one right there that book’s fucking mind blowing. Um, if you have the like, if you’re open enough to listen, it’s a pretty intense

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

Book. How dare you.

Rosco (27:05):

Listen, I don’t know if you’re gonna be able to wrap your tiny little peanut brain around that

Sevan Matossian (27:09):

Thing. How dare you?

Rosco (27:11):

Yeah. Um, so what’s interesting, man. Like I, I can honestly say, um, I had this weird thing happen to me the other day. I was reading this part of the book and it said you’re gonna have to put down, you know, someone’s name that you’re madly in love with and then tell, then say it out loud that you’re, you are okay. Not being in love with them to find your own happiness. And I thought some people and I was like, who the fuck am I gonna put on this list? And then for the first time, for a second that I thought about a bunch of other people. And then I was like, oh shit, dude. I was like, you gotta put your name at the top of this list. I was like, you gotta give, you gotta give up the mud run champ. I was like, you gotta, if you’re ever gonna be a dad or like a husband or any of that kind of shit, you’re gonna have to give up the fact that, you know, you going to events and being paraded all the time and that’s be the healthiest thing for you.

Rosco (28:07):

And that was fucking weird. And I never thought like this before I’ve intentionally left all these books in the back of my closet with tons of dust on ’em because I was like, if I start thinking like this, it is the end before I know it, but I’m pretty, pumpy reading the books now.

Sevan Matossian (28:23):

Can you see the comments?

Rosco (28:25):

No, course not. What am I supposed to say?

Sevan Matossian (28:34):

We’re we’re we’re having a moment of silence right now. Um, I’m, I’m looking at the clock and I’m thinking it’s uh, we’re 20, uh, in, in a minute and 20 seconds, another guest is coming on, but you’re just like, you’ve taken us into the deep end of the pool. It’s just like, how the fuck do we integrate a UFC fighter? Uh, just so you know, we have Jor, we have a hunter McIntyre here. He’s going through some inner despair because he just said a fucking world record and something that he is been working on for 11 years. Uh, um, Jordan, I’m sorry, we can’t pump you up for the guy. You have to beat the fuck out of on Saturday

Mattew Ouza (29:08):

Or maybe it will pump him up.

Sevan Matossian (29:09):

Yeah. Maybe look how serious hunter. What? Hey,

Rosco (29:13):

I was, I was reading a text message.

Sevan Matossian (29:15):

Oh, oh. You’re brow got all tight. Oh good. So you’re not reacting to what I’m saying. You’re using you’re when I talk, you use that as a time to read. That’s what we all do to each other on the show. No one listens to anyone. That’s

Mattew Ouza (29:29):

A common theme here. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (29:30):

Congrats on the world. Record hunter. Looking forward to the next bulk pony shirt.

Rosco (29:37):

Yeah. They’re gonna be good. I make bulk pony racing shirts. Listen.

Sevan Matossian (29:40):

Hey, you know, what’s, you know, what’s funny is this guy’s a, a Josh bridges fan. Look it, he’s got, he loves you. And Josh bridges, Nick G cuz he’s got the pay him as part as his avatar, the

Mattew Ouza (29:48):

Pay him logo.

Sevan Matossian (29:50):

What were you gonna say? I, sorry, I interrupted you. Sorry. What were you gonna say? Oh shit.

Rosco (29:54):

That wasn’t meant to be melodramatic. I think anybody who was super serious about sports should probably have that.

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