#365 – Stories from Odessa, Ukraine with Yevhenni Pt. 6

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Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam we’re live. I tried to do this last week without you, and I couldn’t find any of the good maps that you, uh, had.

Caleb Beaver (00:07):

Oh, really? I kind of just Google ’em. I don’t even use Google maps, honestly, unless it’s early

Sevan Matossian (00:14):

Again. I normally don’t like to start early, but I don’t know. I don’t know. What’s gotten into me, boy, those songs that I was playing at the front of the shows that really screwed everything up. YouTube didn’t like that too much at all. No boy, no, no boy. No. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. I was trying to think about the purpose of these shows. Why do these shows with you have GU good morning, Corey. The whole thing is interesting, right? We live on this planet. There’s these, this dude on some other side of it, He’s going through crazy shit. It

Caleb Beaver (01:04):

It’s almost conflicting.

Sevan Matossian (01:07):

The whole thing. Everything is, everything is so weird. Every time I comment on Instagram, there’s like a mini version of this too. I, I, I noticed like, you know, it’s, it’s the, it’s the same. Would you say this to the person’s face? You know, as you type this shit out, right? Like I was, uh, yang was on Patrick bed. David’s uh, uh, podcast, um, you know, the guy, Andrew Yang, he ran for, um, president.

Caleb Beaver (01:30):

Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:31):

And, uh, Patrick bed, David was basically telling him they, they, they were, they were talking about whether, uh, was it they’re talking about whether universal income, they were talking about something, oh, Patrick bed, David asked, Hey, how’s Biden. And Andrew Yang gave this answer that just like, we all know how Biden’s doing. It’s not good. And it’s sad. And he is fucking up, like, something’s wrong with him?

Caleb Beaver (01:53):

Right.

Sevan Matossian (01:55):

And instead of just saying that Andrew Yang gave this politically correct answer, and I just wrote on there, I wrote in the comments, man, you are a punk bitch,

Caleb Beaver (02:05):

Andrew Yang.

Sevan Matossian (02:05):

Yeah. You’re a punk bitch and a coward. And it was just, yeah.

Yevhenii (02:10):

This from, uh, you punk bitch. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (02:14):

And I’m just thinking to myself, would I say that to his face? I mean, I think I it’s, it’s so bad. Um,

Caleb Beaver (02:21):

We were talking

Yevhenii (02:22):

To guys,

Sevan Matossian (02:24):

Good morning. You have GU GU we were talking about our, something is wrong with our president. You know, he he’s, we’re watching him like go through a severe decline publicly, You know, a, a mental decline. Um, he’s having trouble like talking. I mean, he’s always had trouble talking, but now it’s getting really bad. The words aren’t coming out of his mouth. Right. At all.

Yevhenii (02:43):

Yeah. I heard a couple of, uh, cases where he talking something, something strange. Yes. And without logic

Sevan Matossian (02:52):

And it almost it’s, it’s almost like he’s having a, a minor stroke or something. Right. Good morning. How you know? And you’re just, everyone’s like, whoa. Anyway. So they, I was just talking about how one of our, a man who ran for president last time they asked him, what, how do you think Joe Biden’s doing? And he, and he gave an aunt that just wasn’t, um, it was dishonest. It was a dishonest answer. And it, it, wasn’t just like, we all know how he’s doing, whether you like him or don’t like him, it’s a bit sad. No one would wanna see their dad or their brother or their, you know, sister or anyone going through that shit. But, um, he and I was, and I wrote something nasty to him on Instagram, thinking to myself, Hey, would I say that to his, um, would I say that to his face? And what makes me think about what made me think about that is the situation you’re in. You have again, because we’re seeing you’re living in a war, we’re talking to you from the United States and the P people in the media here, just keep like, so, um, you know, the media saying that Ukraine bombed itself.

Yevhenii (04:06):

Oh really?

Sevan Matossian (04:08):

Yeah. You know, you know, that, that thing that, um, the, the thing that happened and will pronounce the name of that city for Mero

Yevhenii (04:15):

Crema Creto

Sevan Matossian (04:17):

Yeah. Yeah. There’s people in the media here, like looking at the serial numbers on the side of that missile going, no, that’s a Ukrainian missile and it’s like, I, it,

Yevhenii (04:26):

Yeah. I helped to what to say about this situation, because I’m quite quite the, uh, have some research about that. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (04:36):

Good. Good. Well, let’s dig in

Yevhenii (04:38):

Interesting situation. Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (04:40):

By the way, what time is it? What time is it where you’re at?

Yevhenii (04:43):

Uh, now I have 7:00 PM, so good evening. Not good. Good morning. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (04:50):

Uh, everyone, we are lucky enough for the fourth or fifth time to speak with Y GU he

Yevhenii (04:54):

Is in sixth time,

Sevan Matossian (04:55):

Sixth time. He is in, he is in, um, Odesa Ukraine. It is a, a beautiful, um, beach, uh, city on the Southern part of the Ukraine up butted up against the black sea. Um, and how many miles would you say it’s from? Keve south of Keve,

Yevhenii (05:13):

Uh, 450.

Sevan Matossian (05:16):

Okay. So to give you guys a little bit of a perspective where it’s at and the last week and last week, uh, deser, uh, received its first, uh, serious attack from the Russians. Uh, you have GU showed us, um, some oil fields that are just a couple, um, you know, miles from his, uh, from the balcony of his house where you could see them burning above the

Yevhenii (05:35):

Miles.

Sevan Matossian (05:35):

Yeah. Okay. Sorry. So go. So, so hi, everyone, everyone, everything good by the way in everything good. I saw you working out

Yevhenii (05:44):

In general. Yeah. We,

Sevan Matossian (05:47):

By that, I mean you’re alive and your family’s doing well.

Yevhenii (05:51):

Yeah. My family doing well, we alive, uh, today, by the way, talking about the odea, we have, uh, some kind of celebration today cause, uh, 10 of, uh, that, uh, 78 Ann, uh, of the liberation of odea from the Nazis yes. In the second world. So, uh, in this regard, our city today announce curfew, and this is a curfew lasting one and half days. So from yesterday’s, uh, nine o’clock in the evening till the Mondays, uh, morning. Yes. We must sit in, in, uh, in buildings. He has houses and no one can go to the streets

Sevan Matossian (06:42):

Cause because they’re afraid you’ll riot because of the anniversary

Yevhenii (06:46):

Because of anniversary. And, uh, there is a risk of, uh, provocations and rocket attack in this day because, uh, in, uh, 90, 43, yes, the, uh, USSR army is clean DESA from the Nazi and it’s for, for the, uh, Russia, that’s like to help the parallel with the history as it’s a good deal to start something, uh, in a DESA to today, maybe, uh, they don’t know and they just want to keep us safe. So we sit in home and this is not the problem, but, uh, may maybe another reason, uh, because of people want to go to the monuments yet and to put some flowers and all this stuff. And this is the, uh, some community stuff. Nobody wants to have many people in one place. Uh, now

Sevan Matossian (07:43):

The, the irony,

Yevhenii (07:44):

Right about that,

Sevan Matossian (07:45):

The irony that it’s, um, it’s the 78th anniversary of when the Russians came and cleaned the Nazis out of, Odesa

Yevhenii (07:53):

Not only Russians that, uh, big Soviet union yes. With the, uh, pollen and other. Yes. But this time today, uh, Russian shes, the shelling, the black sea cost. So we have a massive air alarm, uh, in the, no, yes. So, uh, two and half of hours I sit in, in the shelter today. And this is what first big air alarm from the last four, five days. Yes. We have, uh, mostly calm situation. So I sleep all the night now. Yes. We have, uh, a little air alarms. Yes. One minutes, uh, half of our, so it’s mostly calm situation another, but in that time, uh, this, uh, ships shelling, yes. We have a couple of destroyed houses. Yes. And, uh, in the ode region, there is, uh, uh, dying soldier. Yes. It’s not, uh, from odea, but uh, he protect the region and was killed by rocket

Sevan Matossian (09:05):

In Odesa

Yevhenii (09:07):

In odea region. So it’s, uh, uh, 50 miles from odea.

Sevan Matossian (09:13):

Um, when you’re in the shelter, do you feel safe or do you think, do you think it’s just all, um, A

Yevhenii (09:20):

Facade? I understand your question. We have a big, uh, building complex. Yes. There is a three, three houses on this area. Yes. It’s our, uh, like complex our yes. Complex, close area where we have, uh, the, uh, parking zone, uh, where we have some, some, uh, stuff where we can, uh, have work outs or something like that. Yes. And this is closed territory with, uh, some guardians. Yes. And under this buildings, we have a big, uh, park place. And, uh, till the, uh, landscape in one part of this area, we have the minus three floor. Yes. And in, in other parts of this land, uh, there is no minus three floor because of, uh, landscape. Yes. So, uh, we know about, uh, the place where we situated it’s minus three floor, but, uh, um, uh, above, above us is, uh, just, uh, little bit of Baton. Yes. And that’s all, so we, if the rocket, uh, missed our place, uh, there is, uh, uh, little Chan that we be alive. Yes. So if we want, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:44):

It feels like you have GU it feels like, you know, when I’m a little kid and I was afraid the monsters would get me, I would pull the blanket over my head.

Yevhenii (10:53):

That’s right.

Sevan Matossian (10:54):

But I’m, but that’s crazy. Cuz the monster has big claws that could just eat me through the blanket. That’s how I kind of feel that the sh the shelters to me seems like, Hey, uh,

Yevhenii (11:04):

So we, we can, can be safe if we don’t sit in that room where we have the one place, the place where you can li lie down. I, I, uh, send you photos couple weeks ago. Yeah. Our, our, our guys, uh, bring the por and we watch the movie once it was, was once. And it was good situation. And if we won’t be just safe, we can go in the safe place. Uh, but not in the room, just on the parking. Yes. So if know that something happened that the bomb is, uh, near Odesa, we don’t sit there we go in the 100 safety place, 100%. By the time you don’t know how long can you sit in this place? So it’s not the shelter. Like, uh, you know, of the west union, we have the buildings where the walls just, uh, meter and the half in, in their, uh, White, white, yes. Matter and the half. And this is, uh, from the bomb. So you see the window, little window. And, and while, uh, in my, So its just, just a building but uh, floor, it’s a bad, uh, bad place to be safe.

Caleb Beaver (12:37):

Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (12:38):

Five feet thick. Wow. Oh, um, yeah. GU what happens to all this stuff in normal day life? Like what happens to, um, what happens to all the people who are in jail? Have they all been, yeah, let’s say you were in jail in Odesa now there’s a war. Do they let all the, do all the bad guys? Just get out what happens? Uh,

Yevhenii (12:59):

On the start of the war, I read the statements by the government about, uh, people who sit in a jail that don’t have, uh, very bad situation. So they don’t kill somebody or something like that. Yes. Just, uh, some not very big crimes. Yes. So they have the opportunity to go away from the jail and grab the weapon and go and uh, be like soldiers. Yes. Wow. But uh, all the infrastructure is working now. So I heard today from the news, uh, not the regular news, but the local news about some, some situation. And that was the, uh, big research about the dead Russian soldiers. So Russia give a fuck about their soldier with lion on our streets and guys talking about, uh, uh, ecology. Yes. So, uh, if, uh, the, the dead body is laying, uh, under long time yes. On the street, there is uh, liquid, uh, death liquid that very toxic. Yes. And, uh, it might be, uh, a big problem because, uh, one, body’s not too much problem, but uh, uh, hundreds of bodies that playing on the streets is a ecological problem.

Sevan Matossian (14:26):

And it is what, what, what do you mean by, what do you mean by that? What do, what do you mean by that? Why are dead bodies an ecological problem?

Yevhenii (14:32):

Because, uh, it’s the process of, uh, it’s called

Caleb Beaver (14:36):

Decomposition

Yevhenii (14:38):

Decomposition. Yes. And the first stage of the composition is the, uh,

Sevan Matossian (14:45):

I thought just dogs would just come eat. The people, dogs and birds. I feel like if someone died, the crows would just

Yevhenii (14:50):

Come eat, eat it calls the curb fluid. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (14:53):

Corps fluid is

Yevhenii (14:54):

Curb fluid. It’s like the it’s toxic 16. So it’s bad for the, for the ground and for the air, uh, when there is a hu uh, on the street yet you can, uh, you can to be poisoned about this. Okay. So, uh, there is a volunteer inside it. Yes. So they, uh, bring dead bodies yet and try to find the way to send it for the Russia because Russia don’t want do this. And, uh, uh, they find, find the way to bring, uh, these bodies, these soldiers, to the Russia. Russia don’t want to do this because of, uh, mothers and sisters of these soldiers. And they, they can realize how much people die in Ukraine and they can do some protests yet. So Russia, it’s not interesting in this process. So they most interesting about, uh, that, uh, stuff that they stole from the houses in Ukraine about, uh, kitchen staff, about the carpets, uh, and techniques. Yes. So the, uh, this is the statistic that, uh, tons of, uh, staff yes. Is, uh, uh, go to Russia from Ukraine. So like, like, uh, uh, hoard. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (16:28):

What was the word he used HDS

Yevhenii (16:30):

Hoard, like, uh, uh, these weekends. Yeah. So like the guys who, who run to the cities and stole

Caleb Beaver (16:38):

Mass amounts of people.

Yevhenii (16:40):

Yeah. And go away.

Sevan Matossian (16:43):

What is the refugee count now? How many people have left the country? Are we up over? Is it up over 4 million?

Yevhenii (16:49):

Uh, it’s up, uh, up of 5 million.

Sevan Matossian (16:53):

Wow. Wow.

Yevhenii (16:55):

A lot.

Caleb Beaver (16:57):

Four and a half million,

Yevhenii (16:59):

Four and half.

Sevan Matossian (17:01):

Hey, do you think these people are gone forever? You have GU

Yevhenii (17:04):

Of course not. I’m, uh, uh, talking with my friends with my, uh, clients yes. That now in Poland in care for Republic in Germany. Yes. And, uh, all, all of they, they sit in try to help, uh, people who run away and talking about, I want to come back. I want to see the sea. I I’ve the photos from the sea. They like, they like Ukraine. This is the people who, who like to live in this country.

Sevan Matossian (17:36):

How about this stat? Is this true? 2.3 million have gone to Russia.

Yevhenii (17:40):

Oh, I think not, not too much. Okay. It’s, it’s not, it’s not possible maybe with, with the power. Yes. Maybe some, uh, percent of the people, uh, Forced it forced with the soldiers to go in Russia.

Caleb Beaver (18:02):

Hold on. There’s a,

Sevan Matossian (18:04):

There’s probably a map somewhere that says how many

Caleb Beaver (18:08):

Pre 2022 says a 1.6 million, but don’t

Sevan Matossian (18:17):

See more than a million of the pre 20, 22 refugees, mainly from Don boss had gone to Russia between 2000, uh, while the number of people displaced with these Korean going. Hmm.

Yevhenii (18:25):

Uh, you know what, uh, there is the Bargon that by rational, and we’re talking about the cremas, this is a city that’s located in the, the next region. Yes. And people who live there, they like hostages. Yes. So there is a Russia government and they do whatever they want to do. So it’s not a problem to, uh, bring people and, uh, go to Russia with. So I, I heard the stories about, uh, people from that, Uh, that, uh, Go to the

Yevhenii (19:08):

East. Yes. East, east of the Russia, it’s far, far away to the east of the Russia. So, uh, with, uh, for they forcibly, uh, be, uh, going by by Russia and, uh, uh, some guy from Russia, right. To their place and live there. Yes. To replace the people, uh, because they must have situation where the cities is for the Russia. Not, not like in son’s every week in, by Russia. Now you can situation on the streets with the Ukraine and don’t afraid the troops, they just want to stay in their position. And, uh, and what you can do with the, you forcibly go away, these people from your Ukraine and, uh, uh, try to have some, some dolls yes. With the Russian flags and try to keep the position that the city like.

Sevan Matossian (20:14):

Um, will you pull that map back up a second? Um, ke and will you pull out just a little bit, I wanna ask you again, any question here you have, GU are they trying to hold, see where that city is? Uh, chor.

Yevhenii (20:28):

Yes.

Sevan Matossian (20:29):

Yeah. Um, and this line that’s off to the right. That’s the Russian, um, uh, Ukrainian border, that squiggly line. Okay. Are they, why would they bomb that town? Is that, are, are they gonna just try to take that piece of Ukraine and hold it? And that’s like gonna be the new, most Western part of Russia?

Yevhenii (20:51):

Uh, look, there is what citation there was, uh, there is screenshots for the, uh, telegram canals. Yes. Where, uh, Russian, uh, guys write that people who want to go away from Kimar, uh, do it without railway station. Yes. That was the, uh, messages was in the telegram canals. Uh, oh,

Sevan Matossian (21:18):

When was that? That was before, before the bombing.

Yevhenii (21:21):

Before, before the day was bombing. So this was two days ago.

Sevan Matossian (21:26):

So two days go, let, make sure. I understand. Two days ago, the Russians, they dropped leaflets on the city saying, yes.

Yevhenii (21:32):

Hey,

Sevan Matossian (21:32):

Don’t ride the train

Yevhenii (21:33):

Tomorrow. So you can go away, but not, not by the railway station. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (21:37):

Yes. Okay.

Yevhenii (21:38):

After that, uh, after bombing this place, they write that, uh, they bomb, uh, Ukraine, troops. Yes. They bomb some, some base of people and, and this, uh, a good war victory. But after that, they, they realized that there was a 15 people, children, and just civilians. Yes. All this messages was clear, but this is internet. We, we hear all this stuff and they write that it’s Ukraine and bump, uh, this city because of, because we, we are Nazi. And, uh, one, one more piece of information about that. Uh,

Sevan Matossian (22:21):

Who do they tell that to? They tell that to who, who do they tell that to that they’re bombing this part of Ukraine because you’re Nazis. Who do they tell that to they, their citizens or your citizens, or both?

Yevhenii (22:32):

Uh, this was the position of Russian propaganda. So every time they forgot, yes. They, uh, dream about some interesting stuff that they can add their news. And you read about the good Russian soldiers who protect the Russian land and protect Ukrainian land and kill Nazi zombie and, and all this stuff. And there is a bad America who helped Ukraine authority and, and, and, and, and other so, and, uh,

Sevan Matossian (23:03):

Listen, listen, there’s a guy here in the comments who believes that narrative, by the way, know this, uh, Craig white.

Yevhenii (23:11):

So he, he believe

Sevan Matossian (23:13):

He believes, I think he believes that the, that is what’s happening. That basically what is happening is that the Russians are going over there and, and, and getting rid of Nazis.

Yevhenii (23:30):

You, so you have a lot of, uh, points yet. We have the people who believe in the flat, uh, flat earth.

Sevan Matossian (23:40):

Right, right, right,

Yevhenii (23:41):

Right. We have these people also. And

Sevan Matossian (23:44):

Have you ever, how are you Guinea?

Yevhenii (23:47):

27 years. Oh, I, I have, uh, uh, in this month I have a 28 years, but now 27, just,

Sevan Matossian (23:57):

Um, I won’t say happy birthday too yet. Um, uh, have in your whole life, have you ever met a Nazi in your entire life?

Yevhenii (24:05):

Uh, I don’t think so. I was,

Sevan Matossian (24:07):

Yeah. Have you, Caleb, have you ever met a Nazi? Caleb?

Caleb Beaver (24:10):

I, I met, um, a skinhead once.

Yevhenii (24:13):

Um, what? Yeah. I want to tell the story about it when I was, uh, ya yank, sorry.

Sevan Matossian (24:19):

Actually, I met a skid head once too. Go ahead.

Yevhenii (24:22):

I have the long, long, short, yes. And, uh, white, uh, white process. Yes. And I was raping guy. Yes. In my, I created the songs and, uh, in my little city, I was the rapper. Yeah. And we believe that there is, uh, skinhead. Yes. Who, who want to kill us because we we’re reference, we, we do not be black yet, but, uh, they want to kill us, but

Sevan Matossian (24:56):

You, you weren’t black, but you wanted to be, I went through that phase too. Yes.

Yevhenii (25:01):

Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (25:03):

T okay, go on.

Yevhenii (25:06):

But not, I meet nothing like this.

Sevan Matossian (25:10):

Craig, Craig, Craig, I don’t understand the question brother. Here’s the thing. I, I don’t want this show to get just weird. And I hear you that there’s a lot of weird shit being said out there, but you’re asking, he’s asking in the comments, show me one black, um, Ukrainian soldier, but I can’t show you one black for a Filipino soldier. I can’t show you one black Armenian soldier. I mean, Ukraine is just a, it’s a country. It’s a country that’s, um, based. It’s not like the United States stop.

Yevhenii (25:36):

You can, there is a lot of, uh, black skin soldiers in Ukraine. There is a lot of, yeah, you can

Sevan Matossian (25:47):

One black person

Yevhenii (25:48):

In Ukraine. You can, uh, Google Ron be, this is the champion from Ukraine. Uh, he, he joined wrestling and he’s now, uh, a part of government and look at this guy just, okay, it’s a part of our government and HES, a part of, uh, uh, our, uh, government party.

Sevan Matossian (26:14):

I like your shirt, Caleb.

Caleb Beaver (26:16):

Thanks. I just came in the mail the other day.

Sevan Matossian (26:20):

So, so what, what, why, so, so what you, you, they warn the city there. Craig, I’m not picking on you either. I’m just trying to give you a voice in, I’m trying to give everyone a voice. I’m trying to make it. I’m trying to just piece this together. I know you’re not the only one,

Yevhenii (26:33):

This Ukrainian guy. Pardon? And he, he Ukrainian guy, he, he knows very good Ukrainian language yet. And he is one of our government staff now.

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

Um, so, so the Russians warned, Hey, we’re gonna bomb this town. Um, don’t leave by train because the train’s gonna get it. Um,

Yevhenii (26:52):

No, they don’t say that they gonna bomb this town. They just, uh, talking about equation. So if you want to go from, even if you want, yes, you can go, but not on the train. Okay. And on the next day they have them attack of the city.

Sevan Matossian (27:10):

So why, why did they attack that city? What’s the point? What’s the strategic,

Yevhenii (27:14):

Uh, why they attack all the civilians now they don’t attack the, uh, the army infrastructure. Yes. All the

Sevan Matossian (27:25):

Welling, the train seems like it’s attacking infrastructure. Right? I mean, it seems like,

Yevhenii (27:29):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems like that, but they don’t attack, train. They attack the regular station with the people there. So, uh, you don’t, uh, you don’t need to show the last video I drop you because they dead bodies are and all this stuff. But you see what happens after minute after bombings, not the, without guys in the, uh, weapon or something like that. The truth that the rocket that was, uh, drop on Thek was the point, oh, it’s called 0.0, it’s Russian, Russian rocket. And, uh, I drop you the photos of this bump. And there is, you can see, uh, the, the is, uh, for, for, for the kids. They, they write on the rocket

Sevan Matossian (28:32):

For the kids,

Yevhenii (28:33):

For children, for HIL, for children. Yes. Right. That was right on this rocket.

Sevan Matossian (28:39):

Okay.

Yevhenii (28:41):

So, and why

Sevan Matossian (28:42):

Don’t, so once again, why did they attack? Why, why did they attack this town?

Yevhenii (28:47):

Because the purpose of Russian army on the territory of Ukraine is killed civilians. And during the he seed of our nation. And, uh, we’re talking about the document that, uh, our, our, our intelligence find. Yes. Uh, they find that documents where you can find all the stuff about, uh, how much, uh, the dead bag, uh, they, uh, drive to Ukraine, how much, uh, the, uh, the wider essence length of, uh, of this, all this whole speeds for, for the bodies must be yes. Uh, the least people who must die first. Yes. The nationalists, the government guys. Yes. And all this stuff. So they plan not only war, not only grab the territory. Yes. And, uh, kill the Nazi and others. Yes. It’s it was the plan to destroy the nation. And, uh, it’s, it’s.

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