Sevan Matossian (00:00):
Bam we’re live. Should I start the show with just something? Absolutely. Bat shit crazy. Hey, you have GU how are you brother?
Yevhenii (00:08):
Hey guys. It’s everything fine. Now. What about you?
Sevan Matossian (00:13):
Oh, great. Everything’s great. Everything is great.
Yevhenii (00:17):
Oh, I’m happy. Happy that you have a great day.
Sevan Matossian (00:20):
Yeah. Live from Odessa. Y GU you have GU will you spell your name for me?
Yevhenii (00:28):
Y GU it’s great. You have a great pronunciation.
Sevan Matossian (00:32):
You have GU will you spell it for me?
Yevhenii (00:35):
Y GU yes.
Sevan Matossian (00:38):
Will you spell it? Y
Yevhenii (00:43):
Ah, oh, by letters. Yes. Yes, sir. Y E V H E M. I I,
Sevan Matossian (00:57):
Oh, you have, he, you have, he,
Yevhenii (01:00):
You have he? Yes,
Sevan Matossian (01:01):
You have. He I’ve been saying you have GU darn it. Turn
Yevhenii (01:04):
It. Oh, no, it’s true. By Ukrainian. It sounds like yhe. Yes. Yi’s like, like G we have, we have a sound like hair. Yeah. Yeah. But it’s not me.
Sevan Matossian (01:23):
Oh, fine.
Yevhenii (01:26):
Fine. But, but name is the same.
Sevan Matossian (01:30):
Oh, you are in, Odesa on the 21st floor of a luxury sky rise.
Yevhenii (01:39):
Yeah. Uh, by the way, for the last three days, our Arab defense has been attacking enemy drones, uh, over a deaths. And the last one was shut down an hour ago. So it was like, uh, uh, how would call it the, Uh, celebrate this, uh, uh,
Sevan Matossian (02:07):
Success,
Yevhenii (02:08):
Fire, fire, celebrating fire.
Sevan Matossian (02:11):
Hey, have you seen any of the drones?
Yevhenii (02:14):
Uh, no. Uh, I, I, my windows is on the dead side that, uh, I, I don’t tell you yet, but I don’t see nothing from the sea. It mostly from the war ships on the, uh, our sea.
Sevan Matossian (02:32):
How about when you go out, have you seen any, when you walk around the town of the city of Odessa Ukraine, do you see any signs of military force?
Yevhenii (02:40):
Uh, no. You know, we live in a big city now and, uh, there is a very good defense. We have military defense and the civilian defense, and of course the air defense that protect us from all the rockets, all the drone. So all the stuff that, uh, they drop on us, uh, it’s mostly on the region. So over the city, not, not in AESA hopefully. And, yeah.
Sevan Matossian (03:10):
Sorry to interrupt. Uh, I thought you were done, sorry. This attack started on the Ukraine from Russia on February 22nd, 2022. Is that correct?
Yevhenii (03:20):
24, February
Sevan Matossian (03:22):
24, 24. Okay. And so we are approaching, we are four days away from a month where GU has been living in a country called Ukraine. That’s getting attacked by its neighboring country. Russia.
Yevhenii (03:40):
Yeah. We have a very good neighbor. I’m special for this, uh, show. Yes, I’m today, uh, teach the history of Ukraine, uh, once again, from the school times. Yes. And I was, uh, made a point on the Russian and Ukraine relationships. Yes. Because baby heard, you know, Ram it’s one of the Putins friends, he’s the president of Chi if you know, Chi. Yeah. So, uh,
Sevan Matossian (04:16):
I don’t think CHES are allowed in the United States, by the way. Is that true?
Yevhenii (04:21):
Well, what
Sevan Matossian (04:22):
I don’t thinks are allowed in the United States, I, I think that they’re under, I think that that’s considered a region full of terrorists. I think, I don’t know. Maybe I’m just making that shit up.
Yevhenii (04:30):
Yeah. It’s like,
Sevan Matossian (04:32):
Russia told me that. Sorry, go ahead.
Yevhenii (04:34):
It’s like a rag in Russia. Yes. And there was a news that Renan had arrived in Ukraine and, uh, he was his, uh, to soldiers, the soldiers of where we like to film the videos. Yes. And they show, uh, how he they’re good for the people. Yes. They come to the, uh, house and, uh, if anyone wants something yes. And anyone needs something, they film it. Yes. And then, uh, with good music, uh, Chi’s music. Yes. They show it for their people, but okay. And, uh, uh, information about, uh, Ram, uh, in Keio was quickly reviewed, but Cero made an interesting statement. He called for Ahan for the head of step Bandera. Remember Bandera from our conversation, last conversation. Yeah. Uh, and he named he like the main enemy Russians and, uh, to understand the real force of his statement at the beginning of the warriors. Uh, Ramzan also that Linsky must surrender by the February. Sorry. Fourth 31st. Yes. So February 20, but Ram to surrender to the 30th of February it’s words, figuring out, uh, why Banderas dead is so dead Bandera. Yes. It’s so scary for put in France. Yeah. Uh, we already talking with you about, uh, the fact that one of the columns of Russian propaganda is, uh, that, uh, Nazis yes. Is ruled by Ukraine.
Sevan Matossian (06:42):
Uh, you have GU, sorry, before we get too much more ahead. Hold that thought. I wanna sum up what you just said to us. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Just to make sure everyone’s listening and, and that I heard you. Right. Um, so there is a, there is a leader called Ramon from Chenia. Caleb showed us this guy there’s rumors that he is in Ukraine. And when you hear those rumors that he’s in Ukraine, you assume he is there with his military, might the way they’re presenting it to the world on social media is that these soldiers who are working under Ronan, these Chean soldiers are actually helping their Ukrainian people going door to door, asking him what they want, um, as part of their propaganda. And that there is another man that we’ve talked about before. His name is Panera. He’s being depicted in the us propaganda as a part of a, um, Nazi Ukrainian like paramilitary group.
Sevan Matossian (07:32):
That’s actually fighting the war. And supposedly that’s why Putin, one of the reasons Putin has come into Ukraine is to stop this guy. Uh, meanwhile, another thread that you started is Ramon originally told Zelensky, he must surrender by February 31st. Am I correct? On so these stories. Okay. Okay. And, and if you, if you guys dunno who Panera, if you don’t know who Panera is those of you listening, the only plate reason why I know who he is, is you have GU has talked about him, Annie’s mentioned in Oliver Stone’s documentary, which you can only find on rumble. Um, and, and, and maybe iTunes, but they pulled it off of YouTube. Okay. Sorry, go ahead.
Yevhenii (08:10):
Uh, so, uh, we have, oh,
Sevan Matossian (08:12):
Sorry. One more thing in this documentary, they say that Panera’s group of militants used to be part of the Ukrainian army, but that he was kicked out in 2014, because, because of his knock Nazi ties. And, but, but the group didn’t, um, break up, they stayed together, but not under the Ukrainian government rule. So that’s another thing that we have a story we have in the United States.
Yevhenii (08:35):
Uh, so firstly, the main statement that Bandera upon Bandera was killed. Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (08:43):
Oh, he’s dead.
Yevhenii (08:48):
Sanne I don’t or head. Yeah. So that was the meme of the last week when the Ram, uh, tell yeah, yeah, yeah. You can, you can see this.
Sevan Matossian (09:05):
Oh, and it’s Bandera, that’s funny in the documentary. I think they spell it with a piece
Yevhenii (09:09):
Bandera. Yes.
Sevan Matossian (09:10):
Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry to interrupt
Yevhenii (09:15):
Of the that’s rule in my country. Yes. So despite we have the fact that of Ukraine, it’s our government, they pass the national social and I sees conversations. Yes. Uh, from people who are worry of your opinions because of we are NA or something like that. Yes. Uh, and
Sevan Matossian (09:45):
That’s what their telling there is that you have to know there is that because that’s the, the, the group in our country that was right about the pandemic is, is the one who is reminding us that there are Nazis. And the group that’s pro Ukrainian is the one that put the masks on the kids and was wrong about the virus. Do you know what I mean? So we have this, I’m just sort of explaining to you the teams. And so it’s, it’s bizarre. It’s a very, it’s the, the team that’s saying that, uh, in the United at saying support Ukraine, they’re supposed to be the peace loving ones. And the ones who are against, going to Ukraine are supposed to be the war Moners. And so there’s the narrative in the us is really fucking weird. It’s, it’s, it’s all twisted up, but go on. This is really helpful what you’re saying, sharing with us.
Yevhenii (10:33):
Yeah. Uh, but the main thing I would like to say and disregard us to distinguish between the concept of nationalisms and in fact NAS. Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (10:45):
Yes, yes. Great, great, please, please
Yevhenii (10:47):
Do it’s uh, very easy to forget what the misconception. Yes. Yes. Especially when to Wiki P DS. It’s good idea. Maybe some of Russians will watch this podcast. They do not have se a function in, in that country now, like Wiki, as the function of speaking in our language, other language. Yes. From on the Russian, they would like to speak, but YouTube is still there. So I continue. Uh, so the D says that is based on the status of the value of the nation and it’s super messy in the of state formation. Yeah. So, uh, and one of the biggest, uh, part of, uh, yes, it’s, uh, the Germany in, uh, second world, world war, and they tell about in the Wiki, okay. Nationally promotes the interest of nation, especially in order to gain and maintain the sovereign. So self government, yes. Nothing, nothing in bad, all the nation over their Homeland nationalists argues that every nation must govern itself free from external interference. Self-determination yes. And that the nation natural and ele buses for politics, and that nation is the unreligious made source of the political power. And now, if you will, a little history,
Sevan Matossian (12:26):
Nationalism doesn’t sound bad. To me. It’s funny. They talk about in the United States, they, they conflate the two all the time. They say that Nationalism’s bad because Nazis were nationalists. But the big problem we have in my country is, is that we don’t, we need more nationalism. Nationalism is an idea and movement that holds the NA holds that the nation should be,
Caleb Beaver (12:46):
This is what he just read.
Sevan Matossian (12:48):
Okay. Should be congruent with the state, a move as a movement. Nationalism tends to promote the interest of a particular as a group of people, especially with the aim of gay and maintaining the nations sovereignty. Yeah. This sounds good, right?
Yevhenii (13:00):
Yeah. Uh, why is NA NA is bad because it’s staying near with fascism. Yes. Uh, but uh, I found, found some, well
Sevan Matossian (13:11):
Also, maybe this too, maybe this too nationalism in the United States might be good because we ex we accept everyone here. We are the largest melting pot of, of no matter what the news tells you. We are a fucking melting pot. We are like everyone. We get along really, really well. Don’t get confused by that shit. You see on the news, like, eh, like every time I go out, I, I, this just now a shit can hands with a, a, a Filipino woman, you know? And, and every less than 10 minutes ago, the tennis court, like, and I’ve seen, you know, two, I’ve seen more different people that than myself than I’ve seen people who look like me today. And that’s how it is for most Americans, if not all, but nationalism, maybe in Germany in 1942 is bad because it’s like, fuck those a Armenians. We’re getting them. You know what I mean? They might conflate it with the way you look. OK.
Yevhenii (14:01):
But this is not the national already. This is theism. When there is you can Google also 14, uh, signs of fascism. Yes.
Sevan Matossian (14:14):
Okay. Fascism is a system of government led, led by a dictator who typically rules by forcefully and often violently suppressing opposition, criticism, controlling all industry and commerce and promoting nationalism and author. Oh, shit. That’s what we have in the United States right now. That’s, who’s in power in the United States. Holy shit.
Yevhenii (14:36):
Yeah. And, uh, if you want, that’s your Biden.
Sevan Matossian (14:38):
That’s fucking crazy.
Yevhenii (14:40):
Find something interesting. Uh, Google, the 14 definite uh, characteristic of fascism, uh, this is, was made by a guy who named Umberto echo. Yes. And 1995, he announcing the, uh, events of world war II. Yes. And he write a say, well,
Sevan Matossian (15:02):
This thing’s wrong. Powerful and continuing nationalism. I don’t think that that is a part of fashion. I mean, may, maybe it is, but we don’t have that. We had all that other shit, but we don’t have that. You know what I mean?
Yevhenii (15:14):
Yeah. I’m understand.
Sevan Matossian (15:17):
Like, like the people, the people who are the fascist in the United States, they don’t love this country, but they, but they promote, but they promote racism and they believe in censorship and dictatorship. Wow. It’s amazing. And they think that the other side, the other party, the Republicans are the fascist because they are nationalists. They believe in their country. Wow. This is fascinating. You’re do I owe you money for this, this education you’re giving me I, can I Venmo you?
Yevhenii (15:48):
I, I was just interested. Why, uh, out of the people of the world, uh, think that we are nasty. Yes. And I want to, uh, see these questions and looking for truth. So now I wanna tell about the history of Ukraine and Russia, uh, relationships. It was start, um, when Russia, Russia started to position itself as an here to the culture of Kean. So before, uh, Russia and the Ukraine and all the country and the, uh, south of was, uh, formed. Yes. There was Kean. It was formed in, uh, 8,882. Yes. Around Kieu and Keio in that time was already been, uh, 400 years, uh, by then. Yes.
Sevan Matossian (16:44):
So, so in 1882, it was named Kiev, but it’s been around since 1482.
Yevhenii (16:49):
No, no, no. Ki was early before, but in 82, all Thelan and, uh, nations who was around the K they formed the Keyan Ru.
Sevan Matossian (17:01):
Okay. Yeah. What’s the word he saying? Caleb? The, of Ru what’s the Ruth
Caleb Beaver (17:08):
K I E V a N R U S.
Sevan Matossian (17:11):
Oh, Ru. Oh, I’m starting to see the word Russia. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Yevhenii (17:16):
That’s before Russia. Yeah. Okay. And at the same time, the first mention of Moscow, yes. You can find it, uh, in, uh, 1170, sorry, 1147. Sorry.
Sevan Matossian (17:30):
Okay.
Yevhenii (17:30):
But at the same time, our history is now being appropriate in Russia. And, uh, I, you, some interest in portal Butin himself has repeatedly said in his speeches that Ukraine is a gift from Russian rulers, and you can show the map. I, I sent you and there was a part of Ukraine. Yes. And the name of, uh, Russian, uh, rulers who have a gift for Ukraine. Yes. This is how, how he think about it.
Sevan Matossian (18:05):
I, um, I’m, I’m having trouble following you. He’s saying that,
Yevhenii (18:10):
That, uh, the Ukraine is not a country yet. It formed, uh, in the union when Len and LAN, uh, Russian SARS. Yes. You see this part of north Ukraine. Yeah. And stalling, and all these guys just give a gift for Ukraine and like a country,
Sevan Matossian (18:31):
But what, what was the gift? It was land.
Yevhenii (18:34):
Yes. Land land,
Sevan Matossian (18:36):
Like Louisiana purchase. Who is the gift to, from Landon to who?
Yevhenii (18:43):
Uh, from, uh, lenan from Russian SAR. Yes. From stalling. When, uh, uh, uh,
Sevan Matossian (18:51):
Who, the gift, who is the gift to the Ukrainian people.
Yevhenii (18:54):
Oh, in, in different part of times, yes. You can see the years there. There was some, some government in Ukraine that, uh, Russia put to control this land, this territory. Yes. And was like this, but, uh, I, I tell you before that, uh, he was before and before Mosco and, and the song, uh, OK. In. Yes. Uh, now I want you to tell about the, uh, things that Russia do with Ukraine since all the history. And I want to start with the distraction of the Parisian teach with talking about the, the Parisian Kazakh. Remember this guy was on the horse with, uh, Ette and they have their own, like a country. Yes. And they want to have Ukraine independent, but in, uh, 70, 75 Russian Empress, uh, Cina second ordered to destroy the Parisian SI, uh, that was the administrative and military center of the Parisian was located in the south of Ukraine. The SI had science of statehood constitution and diplomatic relationship with the Russian empire. But every time when it became too independent, yes. It became a treat for Russia,
Sevan Matossian (20:27):
A treat,
Yevhenii (20:28):
A treat. Yes. Um,
Sevan Matossian (20:31):
Meaning meaning time the Ukraine showed two much independence. The Russians would come stomp around in there.
Yevhenii (20:37):
Yes. Can stop. Can come stop and the, and destroy all, But not, not such simple. Yes. As in that time, uh, we have the situation when in Alexander issued the Sree.
Sevan Matossian (21:03):
What, what year was that?
Yevhenii (21:06):
Sree?
Sevan Matossian (21:07):
What year?
Yevhenii (21:09):
Uh, 90, 76, 80, 80, 76.
Sevan Matossian (21:14):
18. OK. OK. OK. OK. Good. Much better, much better. I’ll buy that. Okay. Yeah,
Yevhenii (21:19):
It’s better. So it, uh, four page printing and employment books in Ukraine and from abroad. Yes. They want to Ukrainian culture it for Ukrainian translations and lyrics. It made every display of Ukrainian culture, illegal Russian empire.
Sevan Matossian (21:43):
Wow. Okay.
Yevhenii (21:45):
Yeah. Then in Ukraine, and this is the long period of time from the 18th centuries, uh, to the, to the now maybe, uh, Russian empire has been era educating all manifestations of Ukrainians, teaching science and religion cell in Ukraine were banned. This is, uh, years small than three Ukrainian schools, uh, head to switch to Russian as the, of education.
Sevan Matossian (22:21):
Hey, did this happen in all of, in, in all of its territories? Did this happen in Georgia and Armenia? Did they do that everywhere?
Yevhenii (22:29):
Uh, there was, uh, something else. Yeah. Not, not like in Ukrainian, but there was, uh, other, uh, poem. Yes. That, uh, they push on the nations.
Sevan Matossian (22:42):
Yes. Because the food that Armenians cook who are, um, uh, uh, Western Armenians is really good. The food that Eastern Armenians cook, the ones that used to live in the S S R the worst food ever, the Russians must have the worst food ever. They must be the worst cooks on the planet. Did UK.
Yevhenii (23:01):
We have a good, good cooks. Yes. You
Sevan Matossian (23:03):
Have good cook.
Yevhenii (23:05):
And there is one more beans. We,
Sevan Matossian (23:07):
The English have really fucked up food too. The English have horrible food too, by the way, English and the Russians they’re, they’re fucked up.
Yevhenii (23:14):
Russia take our Boche maybe, you know, it’s like a soup it’s red soup with, uh, cabbage and, uh, meat. And that yet,
Sevan Matossian (23:25):
That sounds good. That sounds good.
Yevhenii (23:26):
They called Bo Russian Borsch, not Ukrainian. This is, uh, uh, such Ukrainian food. So, OK. I wanna, uh, say about, uh, other countries, you know what, just because other countries don’t have the same history with Russia. Yes. So we start from the Kivan, we start Ukraine and Russia say that, uh, uh, they also start from Kivan and they want to, uh, say about no ki it was just for Russia all, all this time over, uh, all our government for that, that time. Yes. That we have. It’s the, they call it’s like the king in Ukraine. Yes. And we have, ER, Willer the big, yes. And this is the guys who, uh, start of the, all the culture in Ukraine that, uh, uh, start to talk with, uh, Viant Imperial. Yes. They, uh, begin the, uh, Christ Christians. Yes. For, for Ukraine and all this stuff. But Russia tell that this not the key, but this guys who, uh, was before Russia and for Russia,
Sevan Matossian (24:54):
I’m with you.
Yevhenii (24:56):
Yep. Uh, we go much, much away from the, uh, early years. Yes. And, uh, talk about all the repressions, the style repressions, uh, that was when, in, uh, 20th century, Japan and artists, writers, and poets were perse not only for their political views, but also for their national identified. Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (25:24):
That’s whats happening in the United States right now. That’s what’s happen in the United States. People are being persecuted for their art, their creativity, for their views. They’re being persecuted by our government. It’s crazy. I can’t even believe I’m alive watching it happen.
Yevhenii (25:37):
And now in the, uh, close Russia, it’s happening to all the white men is, uh, go away from Russia
Sevan Matossian (25:46):
And all the white men, all the
Yevhenii (25:49):
Wise men. Yes. All the brains go away.
Sevan Matossian (25:53):
Yeah. Isn’t it weird? The Russian population is in a 10 year decline.
Yevhenii (25:59):
People are leaving
Yevhenii (26:02):
What? Yeah. People are leaving, but they have some responsibility I think, or something like that. So in the 20, maybe
Sevan Matossian (26:14):
A 20 year decline, holy shit. That’s not good. A country will not survive in decline. It will not survive.
Yevhenii (26:23):
And if you are looking for the, uh, years of this, uh, population yes. Uh, there is more, more than a half of old people. So, uh, all the young population is
Sevan Matossian (26:41):
Yeah. Yeah. How’s Ukraine’s population. What’s that doing? Caleb? Is it on decline too? Sorry. Sorry. You have GU I didn’t mean to
Yevhenii (26:54):
In the last, uh, month, I think yes. Four, 4 million of people go away.
Sevan Matossian (27:02):
Hey, I think it’s the largest migration of human beings. Yeah. It’s like this in Armenia too. I think what’s happening right now in Ukraine might be the largest migrations of human beings since like world war II. I don’t think the, the planet’s seen anything quite like this in a long time. No, no. Even before world war, I, yeah. Maybe even more than world war II, this migration of people I think I saw,
Yevhenii (27:23):
But there is, uh, hope that, uh, uh, they come back maybe afterwards.
Sevan Matossian (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yevhenii (27:29):
May, maybe we don’t know when, when it ends and what happened in, So maybe you heard about the holiday tomorrow. It’s when its 90, 32. So the three stallion carried out the deliberate extermination of Ukraine in persons, historical documents here confirmed this fact, the whole DeMar coast, not by economic by, but by political reasons took the lives of four and the half million of Ukraines God, that
Sevan Matossian (28:05):
Crazy.
Yevhenii (28:07):
Yeah. That was the shit that happened off my land. And when we, we fir firstly, talk about the bombs on the BA yard. Yes. I remember in Keio and that was the place where the largest, uh, grave, who was the people in Keio, uh, Was, so this was,
Caleb Beaver (28:33):
Uh,
Sevan Matossian (28:33):
It’s crazy. It’s crazy. It’s been we’re we’re 90 years. We’re only 90 years away from when stalling killed four millions fucking Ukrainians. It’s nuts.
Yevhenii (28:44):
Realize it’s a was artificial. So guys just come into your house with, uh, uh, sword sticks. Yeah. And they, uh, uh,
Sevan Matossian (28:55):
Grind you up.
Yevhenii (28:57):
No, not grind you up, but they, uh, looking on your territory. Yes. And try to find something underground with the sticks. So if you, oh, uh, yes. If you put on the ground some food to, to eat something. Yes. They find they, uh, uh, Uh,
Sevan Matossian (29:19):
Pull it out.
Yevhenii (29:21):
Yes. Pull it out. And uh, you stay with nothing.
Sevan Matossian (29:25):
Yeah. Oh man. Hey, when they had to be people by hand too. Yeah. It’s crazy.
Yevhenii (29:32):
All this stuff, uh, happened in Ukraine territory. And uh, if the local on this fact yes. And on the history in general, it’s not strange that we have such people like Banderas who want to, uh, forget about Russia and, uh, live their own life in their own country.
Yevhenii (29:59):
This guy is.
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