#339 – Live Call In Show

Sevan Matossian (00:06):

Bam. We’re live, Go live button. And then didn’t put, didn’t put myself up there. Oh, wait, you have some funky audio, I think. Good morning, Susan.

Matt Souza (00:21):

Good morning. Do I?

Sevan Matossian (00:24):

I is, is your mic turn on? It sounds like your computer’s, um, picking it up who? Who’s not five, six. I’m not five, six.

Sevan Matossian (00:32):

That’s for sure.

Matt Souza (00:36):

How on now?

Sevan Matossian (00:36):

Oh, cuz it says that on my driver’s license. I know I saw that too. I saw that too. There is no way I’m I shouldn’t say there’s no way I’ll measure myself. What if, what, what if I’ve shrank? I’m I’m 50. What if I’m fi no dudes get shorter as they get older.

Matt Souza (00:53):

I don’t know if that’s the thing. Cause it might sounds okay.

Sevan Matossian (00:56):

You know that guy who trolls our account, uh, you know that guy who trolls our account Yolo to the moon.

Matt Souza (01:02):


Sevan Matossian (01:02):

He’s like I had a hundred thousand and I just, just constantly ignored that fucking douche bag. Yes. I saw that. That guy commenting on someone else’s

Sevan Matossian (01:13):


Sevan Matossian (01:13):

Post the exact same way. I’m thinking about banning his ass. Not that he does anything mean. I’m just, it’s just like enough. It’s like, it’s like whackadoodle shit.

Matt Souza (01:22):

What were they saying me at their count? Same,

Sevan Matossian (01:24):

Same stuff. Remember when I went to blah, blah, blah. With you

Sevan Matossian (01:27):


Sevan Matossian (01:28):

Hey Corbin. What’s up? What reminded me of that is cuz Corbin says yo,

Matt Souza (01:34):

Oh, that’s like Yolo to the moon.

Sevan Matossian (01:36):

Yeah. Yolo to the moon.

Sevan Matossian (01:39):

I sent over my, um, notes for the show. Did you see them by any chance?

Sevan Matossian (01:44):


Sevan Matossian (01:44):

They’re crazy long today, Which I think is good in, makes me feel when I’m interviewing people. I don’t want a lot of notes. It scares me like, oh man, I’m all gonna be all over the place. But for these life calling shows, I feel like I’m showing up to a fight with like a loaded gun.

Matt Souza (02:00):

Oh my gosh.

Sevan Matossian (02:01):


Sevan Matossian (02:02):


Sevan Matossian (02:03):

Can you, can you tell, I, I, do you know how to order a CEO shirt? Like, do you know what website to go to and all that to do that?

Matt Souza (02:11):

You mean the link that we have? Or just in general?

Sevan Matossian (02:14):

Just in general. Like, like someone said to me yesterday, Hey, I wanna buy one of those shirts. How do I do it? I’m like, I have no idea. And they’re like, how can you not know? I’m like, how would I know

Matt Souza (02:23):

Get a life has eyes.

Sevan Matossian (02:24):

That’s where you go. You can’t go to our website and do it.

Matt Souza (02:27):

Yeah, you can’t actually,

Sevan Matossian (02:29):

I I’m really fucking wound up about shirts. I should be like, I should be happy. Can you tell by my texting in the morning that I’m like irritated?

Matt Souza (02:42):

I, I know I could tell by now. I know when

Sevan Matossian (02:45):

I know,

Sevan Matossian (02:46):

I, I feel like a prima Donna or like I have some sort of, um, I don’t think that’s it, but that’s the way sometimes I don’t think like that. I, I hope that’s not it, but wait,

Matt Souza (02:57):

What do you mean Preva Donna? Like

Sevan Matossian (02:59):

Instead of being happy, like, oh my God, we sold out of our shirts. I’m fucking so annoyed that I only have one. I can’t find my CEO shirt this morning. Why can’t I order five more? Why are we sold out? Like that shirt is so dope. You know how like my inbox is just full of people asking where to get that shirt. And that shirt is really fucking cool and it’s fun to wear and it fits great. And it says CEO on it and it’s in the gold lettering. It’s just gangster. And, and like, and, and Marcus and life as RX ex did an amazing job. But like, I just here, here’s the good news. I just ordered a shirt from, I’ve ordered a shirt from Patrick bed, David from Valuetainment at least a week before he came on and I just showed up yesterday or the day before. So been a couple weeks. Yeah. So his shit slow as fuck, too. Not as slow as ours. I swear to God it’s I used to make fun of Josh bridges for how slow his coffee came. Our shirts are like, hi, his donkeys run laps around our shit.

Matt Souza (03:55):

Well, well I think you all, I mean, there was a presale, right? So technically we had the shirts up and then it took a little bit to get him into, into production, I guess. So

Sevan Matossian (04:06):

I’m just so fucking annoyed. I, I know. I just, and, and I wanna see a mockup of that politically homeless shirt and I wanna see the red one already. Like how can we don’t have a mockup of it? I just, and, and here’s the part that makes no sense. It’s not, it’s not like, it’s not like we’re selling thousands of these and making the guy anybody rich. I mean, we haven’t made any money. We’re putting all the money back into sending out like free shirts. Hoping like Sarah SI’s daughter wears one or Danielle, Brandon ties it around her waist. So you get a glimpse of CEO on her butt. But, but it’s like, I don’t know. I don’t know why I’m wound up. We better get some more. Maybe it’s just be maybe. Yeah. That’s awesome. I love hearing you say, okay, so here’s the site. How do, how does someone order a shirt? Okay. So merch God, I hate that term. I hate that term is so fucking millennial Merch. Yeah. Merch, but it’s fine. It’s just me. We

Matt Souza (04:58):

Could have that changed.

Sevan Matossian (04:59):

I just, when I see merch, I just think of like Logan Paul.

Matt Souza (05:02):

I, I agree. Well, you see what will said? Our shirts are delivered on a wagon attached to Josh’s new infant on me.

Sevan Matossian (05:12):

You guys, you guys know that there’s no, that there’s no, um, debate about free freedom of speech, right? That’s the one you bring a, a gun to the freedom of speech debate. You guys know that right. Don’t ever, I saw this, um, Logan, Paul and his buddies were interviewing Dana white. I’m Dana white fan. And so I watched it. And this guy’s like, the guy was saying the dumbest shit to Dana, not Logan, one of his, his buddies. And but, but maybe, maybe he was doing it on purpose. I wanna cut in some slack. Maybe he was acting naive. Maybe he was doing that on purpose to stir the conversation. But there should no limit to freedom of speech. None really? I mean, it’s, it’s, it’s, they’re killing. They’re like, well, what about hate speech? They were trying to defend hate speech. No one knows what hate speech is.

Matt Souza (05:57):

Can you define hate?

Sevan Matossian (05:58):

Yeah, no, no, no. You cannot. I was thinking about this morning, starting about why black lives matters is so bad. Again, I remember the first time I saw black lives matter sign. I was in Berkeley many, many years ago and I thought it was internal. Um, I thought it was internal speech. Like if they said like, if I like, since I’m Armenian, I get all these Armenian new letters and things. And I thought it was like, Hey, you should worry about the Armenians and, and Armenia and send money there. I thought it was like that. I thought black lives matter was like the black community speaking to the black community. Like, Hey, you, you know that 51% of all fucking murders are committed by black 6% of the population, which is black men. And 96% of those killings are black people. Please stop killing your people. I thought it was like that. And do you know what I was thinking? It’s so obvious that everyone who that touches is racist because, um, Or confused. Ah, well, they’re confused because they’re racist because to like that, that means nothing to me. Black lives matter, cuz I don’t see people as black or white. But if you see black people, that that means that’s huge to you. It’s huge. And so right away it draws out all the racists. That’s why I know all of you who have those black squares are racist. I know, I know how the brain fucking works. It’s not fucking rocket science.

Sevan Matossian (07:13):

And that the essence, that is what racism is, is when, when the predominant mechanism that you use to see other people is the color of their skin, by the way, isn’t it fascinating. I was, I was watching something that my kids were watching the other day. It’s like science for six year olds or something. And they were saying that basically when you see something, it’s not actually that color. That’s the color. It’s reflecting that it’s actually not so black people are everything, but black. I was like, wow, that’s fascinating. I don’t know if that’s true, but like my glass is, everyone sees them as red, but they’re not red. That’s the color that’s reflecting on ’em cuz that’s the color that won’t, that it won’t absorb.

Matt Souza (07:48):


Sevan Matossian (07:51):

Do you know fire doesn’t burn shit either.

Matt Souza (07:53):

Yeah. It’s like the gases on top of it or something like that.

Sevan Matossian (07:56):

Oh yeah. You hang out with firemen. Yeah. I had a friend who went through the fire academy and he’s like, yeah, fire doesn’t burn stuff. I’m like what? And he’s like, yeah, look at a match. He’s like the object gets so hot that it, it starts guessing. And then the gas ignites. And then I was like looking at a match and I’m like, oh shit, the fire doesn’t touch the match.

Sevan Matossian (08:15):

If you can’t think clearly about stuff, you’re screwed. Someone will be like, well, why is that important? You have to be able to think clearly about things and see things for what are, or you’ll fall for some shit like black lives matter, which is a, which is a fantastic mechanism. If it was in speaking internally, Armenian lives matter. Like that would be good for our like, like Armenian lives matter. Please donate to orphans of Armenia after the earthquake, like internally, it’s a good message outside. You don’t want that. You, you don’t want non Armenians to be messaging them like that because what it does is it separates you from them. It doesn’t bring you closer to them

Matt Souza (08:51):


Sevan Matossian (08:51):

It’s just, it’s just the way the brain works. Guys. If you wanna get 20% off of, oh, I used my, I had a bag of paper street coffee here that I used, but I, I, I grinded it. I grinded it.

Matt Souza (09:02):

So Katie, thank you for the uh, $20 merch. Sounds like something you’d say right before smash that

Sevan Matossian (09:08):

The light. Yes. I know. Why am I so opposed to that? It’s all just

Matt Souza (09:12):

That’s okay. You could be opposed to that. I’m not really a huge fan of like smash that like button. Although I am the one that comes into the comments when I’m not around and puts it.

Sevan Matossian (09:20):

Yeah. That’s the part like I want everyone to like it and subscribe, but like I don’t wanna beg for it

Matt Souza (09:24):

For it. Yeah. Then. So going back to the original stuff with

Sevan Matossian (09:27):

This shirt, but maybe it’s not begging it’s reminding. Go ahead. Sorry. Yep. Okay. Shirt. Yeah. Let’s pretend like we’re buying a shirt. Let’s do it. Okay.

Matt Souza (09:32):

So here I am@thesevenpodcast.com.

Sevan Matossian (09:35):

Yeah. I’d like a large, please.

Matt Souza (09:37):

I’m gonna go check out our blog here and eventually

Sevan Matossian (09:39):

I’m not interested in the blog. I’d just like to buy a shirt. I just listened to the podcast. Thank you,

Matt Souza (09:43):


Sevan Matossian (09:45):

Oh yeah. Can I buy that CEO shirt? I’ll take a large please. 30 bucks. That’s a little expensive.

Matt Souza (09:49):

And you could take a small or you could take a double XL.

Sevan Matossian (09:53):

Uh, no, I’ll take a large please.

Matt Souza (09:55):

It’s sold out.

Sevan Matossian (10:01):

I don’t know if I like the name written on the side either on the, on the sleeve.

Matt Souza (10:05):

You don’t.

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

I don’t know. I, I mean, I don’t know if I do. I just like, I just like, it reminds me of the Ross fit shirts. It’s so nice.

Matt Souza (10:13):

Yeah. The Ross fit shirts. Do you have one of those? Did those?

Sevan Matossian (10:18):

I did. I probably, I don’t know what happened to it and you know what? It was one of those shirts that was just a little too small for me. So I had to be like, my diet had to be good and uh, and I didn’t wanna wear it cause I didn’t wanna screw it up. And wa I was, I have some issues and now I’ve lost it.

Matt Souza (10:35):


Sevan Matossian (10:35):

Um, oh, here, this makes sense. Our shirts are delivered from a wagon attached to Josh’s new infant donkey. Ah, that makes sense. That’s why we only keep like 12 in stock because we don’t guys. This is for animal rights.

Matt Souza (10:50):

I think we sold it a little bit more than 12.

Sevan Matossian (10:51):

It’s a fucking joke though. It’s a, Hey, the good news is, is a, I think in 2022, a red shirt’s gonna come out. That’s gonna say CEO in there and it’s gonna be dope. I, but do you think, do you think that rich is ever like, oh, I can’t find a may ham shirt this morning.

Matt Souza (11:10):

Well, rich has been doing it for

Sevan Matossian (11:12):

Like Chevon. Do you think you’re rich? You’re

Matt Souza (11:15):

Right. I have plenty of these. Do you want me to drop you off one of these? You don’t, you don’t like this one though?

Sevan Matossian (11:20):

Uh what’s on the back. It’s nice. It’s nice.

Matt Souza (11:22):

There’s nothing on the back. I ordered these shirts from Amazon and then I just had grace like made this and then ironed it on.

Sevan Matossian (11:32):

Oh, that’s cool. That’ll

Matt Souza (11:34):

I have like a,

Sevan Matossian (11:35):

A week.

Matt Souza (11:35):

No, no, no. I’ve had these since, uh, Miami. I just wash him.

Sevan Matossian (11:41):

Right, right.

Sevan Matossian (11:44):

Uh, thanks brother, Jack off. Thank you Jack off. Uh, Katie, thank you for the money. By the way. Honestly, it means a lot. I’m taking my son to a tennis lesson this morning and that will cover that, um, uh, th 13 year old boy, I, I think, I think he’s like the best 13 year old boy in the area I’m in Santa Cruz, California. Um, he’s the jujitsu instructors brother, young brother. And he’s 13 years old and he’s supposedly fucking amazing at tennis. So I I’ve been asking him if, play with Avi. So I can’t wait to see that. I’ll put some video up on my Instagram, by the way.

Matt Souza (12:17):


Sevan Matossian (12:18):

I’m wearing, uh, today’s my fasting day. I and I, and I always put on like jeans that are like too tight on me that are like cutting into my gut.

Matt Souza (12:28):

Oh, you look good.

Sevan Matossian (12:30):

Thanks. And I always put these on, I always put these on the days. Like I have like 10 pair of genes that are like too small for me, but on my fasting day, by the end of the day they fit me. You know what I mean? They like feel good. And I’m like, oh wow. And, and I just love that. I just love that. Cause all the inflammation, I mean, it’s not that I’m losing weight. The inflammation goes away and I am puffy as fuck. Now I’ve been taking so much creatine and Aine.

Matt Souza (12:54):

Are you still taking that?

Sevan Matossian (12:56):

Yeah, I got this. I bought it in bulk like five years ago. And about like four months ago, I’m like, you know what? In these two glass jar and I’m like, I need to just work through this shit. Hey, I’m speaking of supplements. I, I wanna go to, um, Can you pull up the comments on the, um, on the liver king episode?

Matt Souza (13:14):


Sevan Matossian (13:16):

You should do it fast for like a month and see if they fit better. Thanks, dude. They fit great after fucking 12 hours. Shut your pie. Hold there.

Matt Souza (13:25):

Oh my gosh.

Sevan Matossian (13:27):

Goodness. Uh, the value, I will say this on one final note. Not only did Patrick David shirt get deliver faster than ours, but it’s actually, it’s a nice quality. Do you own one?

Matt Souza (13:36):

Do not. No.

Sevan Matossian (13:37):

Yeah. I usually don’t like thick shirts, but it’s a little bit thicker than ours. I don’t like super thin shirts either. Then they’re too clingy to the body. These are nice. Well, this isn’t the one that life is our accent out, but the life is our ex shirts are nice.

Matt Souza (13:50):

Yeah. They fit really well.

Sevan Matossian (13:51):

They’re really, really nice. So all the people who are DMing me and asking me for those. So you saw, I guess you, I guess, I guess if you’re tiny or giant, you can get them now and I’ll have, maybe I’ll have let, why can’t we just say that they’re not sold out, but just delayed and let people start ordering.

Matt Souza (14:13):

That’s a great question.

Sevan Matossian (14:14):

Okay. Thank you. Thank you. That’s why, that’s why, um, you were on the back end and I’m the interviewer. Cause I asked these amazing easy questions. You’re the business. You’re the business guy. You should be asking the business questions.

Matt Souza (14:23):

I will I’ll get on. And after this,

Sevan Matossian (14:27):

Um, can you, uh, can you put them in or uh, order of, oh, it doesn’t matter. There’s not that many comments. I

Matt Souza (14:34):

Don’t, I gotta switch all the comments that might be above my pay grade.

Sevan Matossian (14:38):

So, so Weston pride diet theories. Oh, this is interesting. But so Western price, diet theories, Jocko, discipline and ownership, traditional strongman activities. Okay. This was Rob Wolf meets. Joco Willick damn near verbatim, but you could just keep going back and back and back, that kind of talk is just nonsense. You should know that the truth is only the truth and the truth is the truth is the truth. And once you get to the truth, people just keep repackaging the truth. And there was a guy named William burrows, crackhead genius from the, I don’t know, the sixties. And he wrote all the, the greatest artists are just the greatest plagiarizer I, I see things like this as this carmic Nora is just, um, this weird kind of arrogance, it’s it it’s fascinating to me instead of just, there’s a deep negativity to it. I feel like, like who got it before Rob Wolf and who got it before Jocko who got for Western price and who gotta go? Like

Matt Souza (15:36):

I was like, it doesn’t even matter.

Sevan Matossian (15:37):

Just stop. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and then keep going down. There’s a St. There’s a question down here about steroids. Um, so this just Tory. K, I don’t know if you guys know this about me. I know some people must know it about,

Sevan Matossian (16:02):

Okay, here we go. This is, uh, number 76. I just opened up to it. Men are born soft and supple dead. They’re stiff and hard plants are born tender, ILI, dead. They are brittle and dry. Thus, whoever is stiff and inflexible is a disciple of death. Whoever is soft and yielding is a disciple of life. The hard and stiff will be broken. The soft and supple will prevail. That has nothing to do with what I was gonna tell you, but it’s cool. That’s from the doubt of Chan Steven Mitchell translation, greatest book ever written. I know that bothers some people. Uh, I don’t, I only CA

Sevan Matossian (16:54):

Where we come from before we were born, how we were created, who we are, what we are the depths of our identity, where we go, when we die, what happens to our energy? When we die? What, what are the, what are of the pieces that mechanize us that make us seem like conscious beings and, and allow us to cultivate self-awareness and to, um, feel and be is what we are. That’s the only thing I care about. Every single question that I’m talking about is headed there. That is the only thing I care about when it comes to to people. How deep can we go? There was a saying that I used to hear when I was a little kid, it would be like, um, the whole world can be seen in a grain of sand. It doesn’t matter what the topic is. We can find God talking about how shirts are sold and deployed over the earth. Or we can talk about God by using the Bible, or we can talk about God talking about the taste of this coffee. We can get to it. If the right questions are asked, every subject leads to the deepest, deepest, deepest depths of our essence. And so that’s why I’m, that’s, that’s what I’m always doing. If you’re ever wondering what I’m doing or why I didn’t ask a certain question, or like, some people like to be like, he likes to ask the hard questions or he keeps it real. It it’s, it’s none of that.

Sevan Matossian (18:17):

Maybe those are just byproducts or symptoms because people don’t want talk about those things. But that’s where every question I’m talking about. That’s why I’m, I, I, I, it’s always better if I, if I’m on a, um, it’s, it’s better, not the it’s always heavier and deeper. If I’m on a, just one on one with someone, because I’m, I’m gonna run into the darkness, into the unknown. And, um, with someone as fast as they’ll let me, most people don’t even know the unknown exists. If you’re like, what is someone talking about? There’s a book, um, called the power of now written by a man named Eckhart tole. And the, if you, I recommend listening to the audio book and the entire book, some people read it and be like, Hey, that guy didn’t say a fucking thing in the whole book. That’s because the entire time he’s pointing at the unknown, the entire book is pointing at God.

Sevan Matossian (19:05):

And so a lot of people, when you point at something, they’ll look at your hand, it’s really, it’s a trip, but don’t look at the hand. Look, look, look, look. And so that’s this thing about the liver game Sivan. Why did you avoid the obvious question? So, so that, that person’s trapped in their head because it’s obvious to them. And so then they assume it’s obvious to me, that’s like, um, when people do that, you see that all over the internet and all over social media, that’s like the essence of narcissism, right? I don’t mean that in a negative way, but someone who’s duck on themselves, there’s a lot of people like this. Women can be like this the week before their period comes where they, they think that the world is them. They’re cons they’re. So fuck. It’s a, it’s a massive conflation between your thoughts and the external reality.

Sevan Matossian (19:47):

Why did you avoid the obvious question at 1 30, 1 15, after he said he’s in such great shape due to his ancestral lifestyle, asking him if he’s on steroids or testosterone, like the, for me, I would only ask him if he’s on testosterone or steroids. If I thought that it was gonna lead us deeper into the conversation of, of, of God, of, of where do, where does mankind come from? Can we dip into the unknown together? Can we go somewhere, um, uh, where we both learn something new for the first time. And, and that never, that, that thought like I have, I, I only cared that Ricky Gerard was on testosterone because I’m interested in taking testosterone. I have no interest in judging anyone for that. I have none,

Matt Souza (20:31):

Right? He’s not even, he’s not competing in anything. He’s not claiming that he didn’t take it for a sport

Sevan Matossian (20:37):

And I’m not trying to get, um, I’m not trying to get views or likes or be controversial or ask edgy questions, edgy questions I’m trying to, to go in well, and I wanna be funny. There’s, there’s a piece of that, but I, I want to, I, I, I like when I see him, I just want to touch him. I want to like, run my finger over the bumps on his veins. I wanna feel how hard his titties are. I wanna touch his beard. I, I wanna feel his abs. I, I don’t, I never think, I never think about asking about steroids or testosterone. Did

Matt Souza (21:13):

You get a lot of messages about that after that podcast?

Sevan Matossian (21:15):

No, actually I didn’t. But, but, but it, but it, you did. Yeah. Yeah. Like I don’t, I don’t care. I, I don’t think that he says that these pills will make you look like him. I don’t, it’s like it’s people, MI people it’s like the people who said that Donald Trump was racist. When he said Mexico is sending over its worst people. I, I don’t, I don’t hear that. I, I don’t, I don’t hear that. I, I don’t. Um, if he’s going to say his ancestral lifestyle is the reason he looks the way he does, he should at least address the topic. Sure. Then right to him. I, I, I don’t think he has to, or doesn’t have to, but, but right to him, but, but do do it. I, I, I mean like, um, I, when, when comedians go on stage, do we demand to ask them if they’re on Coke or weed or alcohol or what they’re doing to be funny?

Sevan Matossian (22:04):

Like, I, I mean that in all seriousness, this was great conversation, but we can usually count on you to ask on uncomfortable questions. I, I hear you. And I, and I, and those questions come up. They’re uncomfortable. Uh, you, I like to ask uncomfortable questions. Cause I feel like those are usually when I feel something uncomfortable, come up, I’m like, okay, this is the, this is the path. Like, that’s my, that’s my, um, my north star. You don’t want to ask that. That’s probably where you should go, but, but please, like, I, you have to know. I don’t care about that. I see him as just inspirational figure. Like I don’t even, I don’t care if he’s fake. I don’t care if he’s real, I’m taking from him. What I wanna take from him. I see him as this man who wants to better himself. Who’s like exploding onto the scene. Who’s introducing us to new ideas. Even. Let’s say he, everything he did is wrong. He, he he’s made me more conscious. And I, you have to see that in my, in my, um, it’s funny, I’m trying to click the screen like I’m in control. Would you agree? No, I was gonna do the view. I was curious what the reply is, but, but I don’t, um,

Matt Souza (23:08):

He addressed it many times in the podcast is claims and natural, but who really cares?

Sevan Matossian (23:13):

I oh yeah. And if you do care, I’m not saying that you shouldn’t that’s your trip, but that is not my trip at all. I would love to fucking get juice to the gills. I would love for, I would love to be just so fucking jacked on steroids. Like, like, uh, what’s the guy’s name? Like Lee Haney or Arnold Schwartzenegger or whatever those guys are bodybuilder dudes. I’d love to, but, but, but I’m just scared. I just, I don’t wanna fuck with my hormones like that. I don’t want anything weird to happen to my Dick. I got a marvelous Dick. Marvelous,

Matt Souza (23:45):

Marvelous, marvelous,

Sevan Matossian (23:46):

Marvelous. Yeah. And it just gets better. It gets better and better by the less shit I put into my body,

Matt Souza (23:52):

Man, when I kept getting the messages about people would just like message me and be like natural or not. Or like, you know, did he talk about what, what his stack is? And like, things like that, right. Implying that, um, he was taking, uh, steroids and it just sucked because there’s three hours there.

Sevan Matossian (24:10):

Those I’d slap those titties around. I’d like to see Avie punch those things. Those things. I, I must have stared at those things. Sorry, go ahead. Sorry. Oh,

Matt Souza (24:18):

We could hit hard. Um, I almost threw up my food one time when he got me in the stomach. Um, did

Sevan Matossian (24:24):

He really, did he punch in this stomach? Yeah, I know. I gotta tell him to tone that shit down.

Matt Souza (24:27):

That’s just no, no, no, no, no. That was my fault. Cause he was doing a little playful ones and I started just egging him on I’m like, what are you? Are you gonna hit me? Or what are we doing here? And then he went back and just went boo. But I had to do one of these, like

Sevan Matossian (24:41):

You’re only seven.

Matt Souza (24:42):

Yeah, exactly. Um, but, well, I thought it sucked because you have three hours and you, we, we got to know who Liberty king was. Everybody was like, who is this guy? It’s mysterious. We don’t know about his background. We don’t know where he came from. He’s just on the scene. And if you listen to those three hours, like you dug it all out. He started naming bullies by name. He started talking about old best friends. He started talking

Sevan Matossian (25:04):

Intimacy with his wife. He talked about some intimate conversations he’s had with this was so good.

Matt Souza (25:09):

Wow. Yeah. And I’m like, so you mean to sit there, you took the, you went that whole three hours listened to how deep you were able to go with and found all the stuff out. We learned about him as a person. And then the next thing he were like, well, we didn’t ask if he had steroids. So would the podcasts been better if he went, bam, we’re live. Hey, I’m here with liver king. Are you on steroids and no. Okay. Our right guys. And we are taking off, we’ll see you next week. Like, you know?

Sevan Matossian (25:30):

Yeah. And if he wanted to talk about it and he brought it up, I would be fascinated by it.

Matt Souza (25:34):

Right. I don’t give a shit either way.

Sevan Matossian (25:39):

You know, when I, when I, when I talked to, um, Mark Bell, did, he came on our pod. I asked him to come on our podcast. I didn’t go on their podcast. Right.

Matt Souza (25:48):

Did they ask you?

Sevan Matossian (25:50):

I don’t remember, but I’m trying to figure out where I talked to him here. I remember he was Cluster fuck in my head. Okay. There was a point in the conversation where I asked him if he wish, I think I asked him if he wished he would’ve never taken steroids.

Matt Souza (26:00):

Right. I remember that.

Sevan Matossian (26:04):

And it was, it was kind of a, it was kind of a weird, uncomfortable moment. The only reason why I bring this up is because I, in a bad way, weird were uncomfortable, but I bring this up because like, that’s why I don’t, that’s why, that’s my only thing with taking drugs. Like I know that I used to smoke cigarettes and that someone, I wish someone would’ve told me, Hey dude, um, I know people tell you it’s bad. They tell you this, but really the really fucked up part about smoking cigarettes is that someday you’re gonna have to quit. And you, you know, that term that the meme guy always likes to say, I’m, um, I’m taking real estate in your head for, for rent, half rent or whatever that statement is. If you get addicted to something that shit fucking, that shit will stay in your head, rent free your whole life, even after you quit. And that part’s lame. That part is lame. Um, when you have something that, that your brain kind, that, that you get kind of a, a note, okay. Time to smoke a cigarette, but it’s not an option anymore. You’re like, really? I thought I took that off my calendar, but you kind of can’t because the shit’s so fucking,

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

Oh, you, you were sauce the other day on the show. You were sauce. What were you drinking? My goodness. No drinking and watching the Seon podcast. That’s not true.

Matt Souza (27:16):

It’s it’s an entertainment show.

Sevan Matossian (27:17):

Okay. So we talked about that. The steroid thing, I, I mean, ask him to come on. I think Paul Saldino, um, couched it as, are you on supplements? So, so you could watch that. Um, and I’m guessing he asked I’m I would even guess to go as far as to say, Paul asked him ahead of time. Hey, can I ask you this question?

Matt Souza (27:41):


Sevan Matossian (27:49):

I don’t know why this is in here, but it’s kind of a theme. The most, the most, the most memorable birthday, the, oh, my, my wife threw me a surprise birthday party yesterday.

Matt Souza (27:59):

I know it was weird cuz I didn’t hear for you for like 12 hours.

Sevan Matossian (28:02):

That was so did she invite you?

Matt Souza (28:04):

Uh, no.

Sevan Matossian (28:06):


Matt Souza (28:07):

I mean I, no.

Sevan Matossian (28:09):

Oh fuck. That breaks my heart. Yeah. Look here,

Matt Souza (28:12):

Here. Maybe she,

Sevan Matossian (28:15):

Sorry man.

Matt Souza (28:16):

Maybe she didn’t wanna put a pressure on me to come all the way out there.

Sevan Matossian (28:19):

Maybe, maybe that’s really weird or, or just slipped her brain. Yeah. Two of my friends showed up from Berkeley who I hadn’t seen in months. It was crazy.

Matt Souza (28:27):

That’s awesome. But you need to spend time with those people. We talk all

Sevan Matossian (28:30):

Day. I didn’t spend time with any of my guests. I watched UFC. I’m fucking a horrible host. I am horrible OS I feel no obligation. I’m like, oh my God, hi, got up, hugged them. And then, and then sat back there.

Sevan Matossian (28:47):

Um, one of the most memorable birthday parties I ever had in my entire life is I was like nine years old. I was a latchkey kid. I was laying down in the family room in my house and was watching TV. And my mom came home from work. I was all alone at the house and uh, she goes, hi. And I go hi. And she didn’t say anything to me and gave me a kiss probably. And then went and took her shoes off or something. My, my mom was an attorney and uh, she had wore high heels. And so then I, then I probably followed, I think I followed her into her room. I’m like, what’s up? And you know, always hugged my mom really tight. And then I was like, well, you know, it’s my birthday. And my mom’s like, oh shit. And she had forgotten, it was my birthday. And she’s like, what do you wanna do? It’s like seven o’clock at night or something. I’m like, I wanna go to McDonald’s. And she took me to McDonald’s and to this day it’s like my most memorable birthday. We got really remember it. Well, I being like, holy shit, I’m going to McDonald’s.

Sevan Matossian (29:42): And so it’s weird. It’s weird that like things that can be negative. Like if it, if it would’ve just been a regular birthday, if my mom would’ve come home and gimme a box of Legos and hot wheels, I’ve never remembered that birthday never, ever, ever, ever. But because she forgot because she took me to McDonald’s it’s one of my most memorable.

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